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Wednesday, July 12, 2017

The fabrication of an anti-Trump attack

Remember, /pol/ is always right. Not only has Weaponized Autism demonstrated that the Russian Server story is bogus, they have identified the locus for the attack named "Tea Leaves":
On October 31, 2016, Slate published an article titled “Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?” This article described the work of Professor L. Jean Camp and her colleagues, all of whom had developed an interest in the activity of mail1.trump-email.com, an email-marketing server associated with the Trump Organization:

The computer scientists posited a logical hypothesis, which they set out to rigorously test: If the Russians were worming their way into the DNC, they might very well be attacking other entities central to the presidential campaign, including Donald Trump’s many servers. “We wanted to help defend both campaigns, because we wanted to preserve the integrity of the election,” says one of the academics, who works at a university that asked him not to speak with reporters because of the sensitive nature of his work.

This professed altruism as a rationale for digital snooping may be hard to swallow given that Camp and her associates spend a great deal of time on Twitter launching unhinged attacks against President Trump, but pushing ahead, enter Tea Leaves:

In late July, one of these scientists—who asked to be referred to as Tea Leaves, a pseudonym that would protect his relationship with the networks and banks that employ him to sift their data—found what looked like malware emanating from Russia. The destination domain had Trump in its name, which of course attracted Tea Leaves’ attention. But his discovery of the data was pure happenstance—a surprising needle in a large haystack of DNS lookups on his screen. “I have an outlier here that connects to Russia in a strange way,” he wrote in his notes. He couldn’t quite figure it out at first. But what he saw was a bank in Moscow that kept irregularly pinging a server registered to the Trump Organization on Fifth Avenue.

Tea Leaves is another piece of work in the “concerned and impartial researcher” department. Check out Tea Leaves on medium.com (@tea.leaves) play-acting as the innocently curious Lea Vestea (roughly a cyclic permutation on “Tea Leaves,” in case you missed it):

If you are a billionaire, do you have lesser people “take the fall” for you? We already saw a loyal Trump employee — who is a woman — used as a scapegoat in the scandal about Melania Trump plagiarizing a Michele Obama speech. After reading details of an under-reported story that seems to be just emerging — I predict that The Donald will do it again and yet again find a woman amongst his large organization to blame his own extremely risky actions upon.

We were assured that known DNS experts vouched for the authenticity of the DNS logs. We were assured that nine computer scientists considered it nearly impossible for such logs to be forged or manipulated. And thus a virulent narrative was reinforced.
Now, I neither know anything nor care about DNS lookups or servers so long as my Internet is working. And I always assumed that this "Russian server scandal" was just another anti-Trump put-up job, just like the current non-scandal involving Donald Trump Jr. is. But there is one thing about this that is very interesting to me as a writer. There is a tremendous tell in that quote from Tea Leaves, who was commonly supposed to be a man all along. See if you can spot it. I mean, does that read like anything a man would ever write?

No, it most certainly does not....

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119 Comments:

Blogger Wednesday July 12, 2017 6:41 PM  

It's plain as day once you look for it, but I didn't see it until you mentioned it. Sharp eye.

" We already saw a loyal Trump employee — WHO IS A WOMAN — used as a scapegoat in the scandal about Melania Trump plagiarizing a Michele Obama speech."

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros July 12, 2017 6:43 PM  

The phrase "extremely risky" is quite the tell, too.

Blogger Koanic July 12, 2017 6:49 PM  

> WHO IS A WOMAN

Gynocracy's roar.

Anonymous Mathias July 12, 2017 6:49 PM  

@1,

I spotted the exact same thing after about 15 seconds of skimming.

Blogger Lovekraft July 12, 2017 6:53 PM  

That nonsense about 'woman taking the fall'? Author shoots self in foot by revealing bias so blatantly.

Anonymous Mathias July 12, 2017 6:55 PM  

@5,

Yea, but the dashed bit is the crack in the dam, once you notice that, its all over except the counting.

Blogger Baldwin IV July 12, 2017 6:59 PM  

"WHO IS A WOMAN" and also "The Donald will do it again and yet again find a woman"

Blogger VFM #7634 July 12, 2017 7:04 PM  

"Remember, /pol/ is always right"

I wonder when these idiots will realize that it's not a good idea to mess with the real world's Skynet.

Anonymous pathfinderlight July 12, 2017 7:05 PM  

It's well known that liberal attack dogs like to dress up their anti-right propaganda as academic work. Dressing up anti-Trump propaganda as academic work wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Anonymous Critically Bent July 12, 2017 7:06 PM  

I just assumed the writer was a pussified man doing the try-so-hard-to-be-a-feminist thing. I think it is the second time, where they say that Trump will again find another woman to take the fall that seems the step beyond into gotta be a woman territory.

Anonymous Looking Glass July 12, 2017 7:08 PM  

@7 Baldwin IV

Also shades of Pump & Dump recipient. Project her failure to snag an Alpha by projecting on Trump.

As for the act, we've got a pretty good idea how they build up a manipulation/control function over people in modern political environment. It takes a lot of unconnected moving parts, but it really only takes a small group to get a ball rolling. They used the poisoned culture of Leftism to invent the rest.

Blogger Ceasar July 12, 2017 7:13 PM  

Banks, Russian or otherwise, just don't let traffic come and go out of their network. This could easily be explained by the fact not all network engineers are Einsteins. Improper VPN/ASA setup could cause ping tests to roll out to an improper IP address. The intermittent nature could be the primary link goes down (carrier/ISP issue) then the secondary tries to connect (in this case to the wrong IP address). DNS translates IP addresses to domain names and vice versa. I have dealt with this numerous times with companies.

Blogger dvdivx July 12, 2017 7:14 PM  

The writing style of normal men or pajama men with punchable faces. There is a difference.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 12, 2017 7:14 PM  

I bet I could convince 99/100 journalists that a DNS log is authentic because the CRC checksum is valid.

Blogger Chiva July 12, 2017 7:19 PM  

"nine computer scientists considered it nearly impossible"
The tenth computer scientits knows how to do it and is being very, very quiet about it.

Anonymous Battlefrog July 12, 2017 7:23 PM  

dvdivx wrote:The writing style of normal men or pajama men with punchable faces. There is a difference.

I think a pajama boy might express the same thoughts, but he would simply say "female Trump employee" and white knight it from there.

The overly dramatic "who is a woman" was almost certainly written by a woman.

Blogger Lazarus July 12, 2017 7:25 PM  

"Scientits" is a great typo.

Blogger Ransom Smith July 12, 2017 7:26 PM  

Two tells actually.
"Who was a woman"
and
"Find another woman"

What Notch once referred to on twitter as "cuntfussing".
A term I've happily borrowed.

Anonymous JAG July 12, 2017 7:27 PM  

Wednesday wrote:It's plain as day once you look for it, but I didn't see it until you mentioned it. Sharp eye.

" We already saw a loyal Trump employee — WHO IS A WOMAN — used as a scapegoat in the scandal about Melania Trump plagiarizing a Michele Obama speech."



LOL, I literally read the "WHO IS A WOMAN" phrase in Emma Watson's nearly crying, scornful, "MEN" speech.

Blogger ace July 12, 2017 7:30 PM  

Ladies, it's fallperson now. After you.

Anonymous Stickwick aka "Coffee Grounds" July 12, 2017 7:30 PM  

In late July, one of these scientists—who asked to be referred to as Tea Leaves, a pseudonym that would protect his relationship with the networks and banks that employ him…

It’s funny, but as soon as I saw “him,” I wondered if it was really a “her.”

As for the tell, the emphasis on women scapegoats and the “extremely risky actions” kinda gives it away.

Anonymous JAG July 12, 2017 7:31 PM  

Chiva wrote:"nine computer scientists considered it nearly impossible"

The tenth computer scientits knows how to do it and is being very, very quiet about it.


Reminds me of I think it was a Far Side strip that had the caption, "Four out of Five Dentists Agree, Floss After Every Meal," with four dentists all smiling in agreement.

The fifth dentist was standing off to the side with a skeptical look on his face. His take was, "I'm sure you have something better to do."

Anonymous Stickwick aka "Coffee Grounds" July 12, 2017 7:33 PM  

Lazarus: "Scientits" is a great typo.

Please, God, do NOT let Nate see this.

Anonymous Looking Glass July 12, 2017 7:36 PM  

@23 Stickwick aka "Coffee Grounds"

There's a joke/story I don't know here, haha. "Scientits" might one to keep in the queue like "Tits or GTFO". haha

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2017 7:38 PM  

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:I bet I could convince 99/100 journalists that a DNS log is authentic because the CRC checksum is valid.
That's a lie. It would be 100:100

Chiva wrote:"nine computer scientists considered it nearly impossible"

The tenth computer scientits knows how to do it and is being very, very quiet about it.

I could fake you one up RIGHT NOW. It's a text file, for Pete's sake, a character stream. I could write you a Ruby script to generate them on the fly, and I don't speak Ruby.

Blogger SirHamster July 12, 2017 7:40 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:There's a joke/story I don't know here, haha. "Scientits" might one to keep in the queue like "Tits or GTFO". haha

Stickwick is a female scientist.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2017 7:44 PM  

A scientits is a woman who gets a stem degree so she can become a technology evangelist, PR flak, spokesmodel or saleswhore.

Blogger VD July 12, 2017 7:47 PM  

Stickwick is a female scientist.

Don't. Just don't. Remember that Navy SEAL copypasta? That's her husband. Only in real life, and genuinely scary.

Blogger Chiva July 12, 2017 7:50 PM  

Funny how 9 computer scientists can't seem to figure that out.

Anonymous andon July 12, 2017 7:52 PM  

If you are a billionaire, do you have lesser people “take the fall” for you? We already saw a loyal Trump employee — who is a woman — used as a scapegoat in the scandal about Melania Trump plagiarizing a Michele Obama speech.

if you're not a billionaire you can just scapegoat a random YouTube fella

Blogger darkdoc July 12, 2017 7:54 PM  

The appeal to consensus "nine scientists" - safety in numbers - is a very feminine trait.

Blogger Vikki Wilson July 12, 2017 7:56 PM  

Yes. I would suspect a woman but there are, of course, multitudes of "male feminists" who adhere or pay lip-service to the doctrine as a matter of course/social necessity.

Anonymous Viiidad July 12, 2017 7:56 PM  

Solipsism FTW

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook July 12, 2017 7:56 PM  

How scary are we talking here from a scale of Pikachu to Jason Voorhees?

Anonymous basementhomebrewer July 12, 2017 8:05 PM  

Honestly I skimmed the article and missed the "he" part. I thought it was a woman simply due to what was written. VDs comment is the first time I realized this was suppose to be a man.

Blogger Chris McCullough July 12, 2017 8:08 PM  

No man would ever choose the name "Tea Leaves".

Anonymous Looking Glass July 12, 2017 8:08 PM  

@26 SirHamster

I know. She's also an enjoyable chat on Gab. I just don't know the background of her run in with Nate about something. (I'm relatively new around these parts, considering the age of teh blog.)

As for the "Tits or GTFO" reference, it's a valuable lesson from GamerGate to disarm a Woman trying to seek attention wholly for being in a space. "Scientits" can work in the same manner, so I'm simply adding it to the weapons cache.

Stickwick deserves her "attention" for being a valuable community member.

Blogger Ron July 12, 2017 8:18 PM  

I got bored halfway thru and just skipped to your assessment. Does that count?

Anonymous Stickwick aka "Coffee Grounds" July 12, 2017 8:18 PM  

Looking Glass: I just don't know the background of her run in with Nate about something.

Nate has a penchant for using "Sugartits" when he thinks someone's being an idiot. I was on the receiving end of this just one (1) time, early in my tenure here. Just what we need, a scientist-specific version of it. :P

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III July 12, 2017 8:19 PM  

If you would like to let loose the dogs of meme war, we are trying to get #AprilLorenzen (aka Tea leaves) trending on twitter with #womeninstem, #stemgirls, #stemissexy, etc.

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/133399352#p133416627

By the grace of God Emperor, Ivanka made a #womeninstem tweet like an hour ago...

https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/885271223701295104

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2017 8:27 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:As for the "Tits or GTFO" reference, it's a valuable lesson from GamerGate to disarm a Woman trying to seek attention wholly for being in a space.
ToGTFO long predates gamergate.

Anonymous Looking Glass July 12, 2017 8:27 PM  

@39 Stickwick aka "Coffee Grounds"

Ah, okay, that makes sense. "Scientits" would be better directed at one of those Gender Studies groupies on Twitter. Man, that'd send them ballistic.

Anonymous Looking Glass July 12, 2017 8:28 PM  

@41 Snidely Whiplash

I know, but it became weaponized and generally acceptable to drop in the gaming space after GG. That was a big change, realistically. And also a sign of things to come.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 12, 2017 8:36 PM  

Allow me to pat myself on the back for calling bullshit on the Slate article the day it came out. I was wrong in the rest of my prediction, though; I really didn't think they'd still be trying to get Americans to chase that stick. These people are seriously dumb.

Anonymous JAG July 12, 2017 8:38 PM  

"Scientits" - I am witnessing the birth of a dank meme out of a mere typo. Sometimes the memes just seem to create themselves ex nihilo.

Blogger Ransom Smith July 12, 2017 8:44 PM  

"Scientits" - I am witnessing the birth of a dank meme out of a mere typo. Sometimes the memes just seem to create themselves ex nihilo.

Is there a good female "scientist" we could use for said meme?
Someone popular enough but ....
OH wait....
Elisabeth Holmes maybe? She could be our "Scientits"

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2017 8:50 PM  

Boobs

Anonymous Coffee Grounds July 12, 2017 8:50 PM  

Looking Glass: "Scientits" would be better directed at one of those Gender Studies groupies on Twitter. Man, that'd send them ballistic.

Ha, yes. Properly deployed, it could be very triggering.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2017 8:52 PM  

Glucosemammaries

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2017 8:53 PM  

Covfefe

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume July 12, 2017 9:07 PM  

I'm no good with meme generation but it seems to me a Ghostbusters image (the unholy feminine travesty of last year) would make a decent starting point.

"Back off Man, she's a Scientits."


Tweet when necessary.

Blogger Koanic July 12, 2017 9:18 PM  

The scientits credited her rise to extensive peer review, with a focus on replication, and horizontal networking.

Blogger Bill Halsey July 12, 2017 9:22 PM  

"Honestly I skimmed the article and missed the "he" part. I thought it was a woman simply due to what was written. VDs comment is the first time I realized this was suppose to be a man."

Me too. By the time I got to the end of the italicised quote I had subconsciously switched to reading as a woman's voice.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2017 9:22 PM  

Emmett Fitz-Hume wrote:"Back off Man, she's a Scientits."
A scientits has to be attractive, which pretty much closes off the Ghostbusters movie

Anonymous Deplorable Winning July 12, 2017 9:28 PM  

Coffee Grounds wrote:Looking Glass: "Scientits" would be better directed at one of those Gender Studies groupies on Twitter. Man, that'd send them ballistic.

Ha, yes. Properly deployed, it could be very triggering.


Those are soft, social scientits, not rock-hard scientits.

Blogger Otto Lamp July 12, 2017 9:30 PM  

"The computer scientists posited a logical hypothesis..."

Scientists?

Wouldn't that be engineers? Specifically, network engineers.

I don't know anyone in IT that refers to themselves as a scientist. In fact, anyone that referred to themselves as a "computer scientist" would probably get laughed out of the building.

The degree may be called "Computer Science", but people who hold the degree and work in the industry refer to themselves as engineers.

I may be picking at nits, but this seems like an odd phrasing. Either the author was unfamiliar with the IT industry, or they were trying to establish some type of appeal to authority by raising these computer experts to the level of scientists.

Anonymous Commenter July 12, 2017 9:30 PM  

Wait, so the connection is that it just happens to ping a server? Irregularly, at that. Given that there was quite a bit of data, it could be someone there had an account at the bank and was checking on it.

No doubt it was found with the miracle analysis tool known as 'search'. Would explain why this 'Tea Leaves' figured it was so impressive to find. Who knows, they might find the 'find and replace' tool, which will make their job in making stuff up so much easier.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Communists murdered +100 Million trying to genocide the Bourgeois. suffering a Marxist to live is a Crime Against Humanity ) July 12, 2017 9:32 PM  

Lazarus: "Scientits" is a great typo.

23. Stickwick aka "Coffee Grounds" July 12, 2017 7:33 PM
Please, God, do NOT let Nate see this.



quoting for Great Justice.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Communists murdered +100 Million trying to genocide the Bourgeois. suffering a Marxist to live is a Crime Against Humanity ) July 12, 2017 9:32 PM  

oh, and blueberries are on.

Blogger Chiva July 12, 2017 9:45 PM  

She blinded me with scientits.

Blogger Otto Lamp July 12, 2017 9:49 PM  

@57,

The linked article shows that the logs were altered. Altered by someone who knew something about the system, but not enough to get it right. They missed the little things.

The evidence is beyond smoking gun, the logs were altered.

If the log evidence is false, what else about this story is false?

Anonymous Looking Glass July 12, 2017 9:51 PM  

@46 Ransom Smith

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-exclusive

While a good thought, in a very sort of hilarious way, Holmes actually took the "ToGTFO" question and chose "tits". The Vanity Fair piece is the coup de grace on her narrative of building a company. The writer, clearly, could get no one to go on record saying how she really got her start. He leaves a ton of hints throughtout that she was clearly sleeping with some VCs, likely more for connections to raise money than as quid pro quo for money. But, well, you never know. A 24-year old "8" can easily raise a lot more than just money from VCs in suits.

"Scientits" doesn't quite have a perfect example at the moment, but it'd be good for something like those Ivy League economists that say stupid things on Twitter. When people are giving the Woman flak, you could go, "Back off, dudes, she's a scientits!". Adds to the confusion on the target, as well, as they don't know if you've just defended or insulted them.

Anonymous Crew July 12, 2017 9:51 PM  

“I have an outlier here that connects to Russia in a strange way,” he wrote in his notes. He couldn’t quite figure it out at first. But what he saw was a bank in Moscow that kept irregularly pinging a server registered to the Trump Organization on Fifth Avenue.

So, you can't tell if some machine in Russia is pinging a Trump server just from the DNS logs. All you can see is the DNS lookups, and the irregularity might simply have to do with the TTL on the DNS records. Ie, if the TTL is 86400 then you will see a flurry of new lookups every day.

To see the pings you will need traffic captures from the source or destination or from one of the routers between Russia and the US.

I doubt they have that or they would have told us what protocol was being used, like HTTP, SMB2/3, SRMC* or whatever.

* Secret Russian Machine Control protocol, of you really want to know.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2017 9:53 PM  

This is a scientist
This is a Scientits
This is a whore in a lab coat
This is a woman wondering if she got enough codeine in the purple drank
This is just an embarrassment

Blogger Cail Corishev July 12, 2017 10:12 PM  

So, you can't tell if some machine in Russia is pinging a Trump server just from the DNS logs.

Right. As written, the Salon article made no sense. DNS requests for trump-email.com by a Russian server wouldn't be hitting some curious professor's DNS server in the first place. It's not like DNS requests are broadcast across the whole net for anyone to accept. (If they were, you could track all the web sites your enemies visit and all the domains they send email to, just by capturing their DNS requests.) They go directly to whatever DNS resolver the requesting system is configured to use, usually one near it network-wise; and if the resolver doesn't already know the answer, then that system further looks up the name.

If the story isn't completely made up, I have a guess at what actually happened, which got distorted through wishful thinking into that article, but I'll save that for an article of my own. I would have written more about it at the time, but it was such obvious nonsense that I just forgot about it after the election.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast July 12, 2017 10:13 PM  

I tried....any suggestions for different text?

http://imgur.com/cLDZxgV

Anonymous andon July 12, 2017 10:23 PM  

@ #64 Snidely Whiplash

for some reason i thought Marie Curie was a jew but i dont see mention of it in WP. either way i suspect she earned her awards

re the Ghostbusters girls, they have no star quality. just 4 schlubs

Blogger Wolfman at Large July 12, 2017 10:25 PM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2017 10:30 PM  

andon wrote:for some reason i thought Marie Curie was a jew but i dont see mention of it in WP. either way i suspect she earned her awards
Marie and Henri Curie were Pole and devout Catholics. Her husband probably actually earned the rewards, but evidently he was more-or-less reclusive and was happy to have her accept the accolades. She did a lot of the work, but he was the genius.

Anonymous Bob July 12, 2017 10:31 PM  

@66
CO, I like it!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2017 10:33 PM  

CitizenOutkast wrote:I tried....any suggestions for different text?


Gabbed it.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 12, 2017 10:50 PM  

It looks like something a pussyhat like Ossoff would have written, or an actual woman.

Anonymous andon July 12, 2017 10:54 PM  

@ Snidely

thx, good info.

Anonymous Confused Boomer July 12, 2017 10:54 PM  

I can't follow any of this new computer stuff, but Trump sure looks guilty.

It's ok though, I have plenty of time to figure it all out.

90 is the new 70!

Anonymous BoxingIsNotFighting July 12, 2017 11:18 PM  

9. pathfinderlight: Was just listening to Jordan Peterson talking about this...a group of liberal academics basically write nonsense "papers" then go around "liking" each other's garbage (otherwise known as "peer review") then get it published. They, and nearly ONLY they, go around then quoting their like-minded friends' work, claiming it as academic consensus. Gender studies, Afro studies and such.

Anonymous Icicle July 12, 2017 11:23 PM  

a group of liberal academics basically write nonsense "papers" then go around "liking" each other's garbage (otherwise known as "peer review") then get it published.

I've seen so much of that just casually looking through them.

Blogger Cetera July 12, 2017 11:36 PM  

Emmett Fitz-Hume wrote:I'm no good with meme generation but it seems to me a Ghostbusters image (the unholy feminine travesty of last year) would make a decent starting point.

"Back off Man, she's a Scientits."

Tweet when necessary.


https://kek.gg/i/7BBTRx.jpg
https://kek.gg/i/Tt96B.jpg

Not sure how to embed, if it is possible here. I spent 15 seconds trying, and then gave up.

Blogger red clock July 12, 2017 11:41 PM  

Everyone needs to check this, and I hope Vox will post this as a separate post.

Trump admin (Stephen Miller) is working with Tom Cotton to pass the RAISE Act which will halve legal immigration. http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/07/12/donald-trumps-aides-develop-plans-to-halve-legal-immigration/

Blogger VFM #7634 July 12, 2017 11:53 PM  

Marie and Henri Curie were Pole and devout Catholics. Her husband probably actually earned the rewards, but evidently he was more-or-less reclusive and was happy to have her accept the accolades. She did a lot of the work, but he was the genius.

@69 Snidely Whiplash @andon
They were baptized as Catholics, but I think they may have been communists. Their daughter Irene definitely was. So andon isn't entirely wrong.

Anonymous BBGKB July 12, 2017 11:59 PM  

Scientits They do want more women in stem. For a while I just assumed sugar tits was about snorting cocaine off of breasts.

for some reason i thought Marie Curie was a jew but i dont see mention of it in WP. either way i suspect she earned her awards

I would say the people who actually earned it were the ones with more radiation poisoning than her.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab July 13, 2017 12:11 AM  

Am I just slow tonight? What does this mean?

Anonymous Pathetic Peripatetic July 13, 2017 12:17 AM  

Nicely spotted, Vox! The use of "extremely risky actions" is even more conspicuous than the iteration of gender, at least to me.

Blogger Elocutioner July 13, 2017 12:31 AM  

If you are a billionaire, do you set up your secret server to communicate your highly illegal and clearly nefarious activities with a foreign bank and allow it to directly talk to all sorts of things on the Internet rather than use a VPN and hardcode IP's, and then set it up in your building like a giant flashing neon sign? That's Clinton-level stupidity.

Blogger tublecane July 13, 2017 12:45 AM  

The phrase "who is a woman" jumped out and slapped me in the face. I could imagine a man writing that, I suppose, it were addressed to a feminist into whose pants he was trying to get.

Blogger tublecane July 13, 2017 12:49 AM  

@20-I have used "fall gal." I don't imagine they appreciate that.

"Scapegoat" is a histrionic term, which would be womanly to use. But I suppose it's been abused enough to barely mean anything by now.

Blogger tublecane July 13, 2017 1:02 AM  

@46-There was an insufferably PC series on PBS (go figure) recently called the Greeks, which featured a talking head I nicknamed Dr. Boobies in reference to her prodigious cleavage. I think her name is Bettany Hughes.

But she's just a classicist, not an actual scientist.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 13, 2017 1:15 AM  

Funny how 9 computer scientists can't seem to figure that out.

H1Bs.

Anonymous Bobby Farr July 13, 2017 1:22 AM  

Wow, you are an optimist. I read this "tell" and immediately pictured a self-loathing jewish male feminist, a pajama boy type.

Blogger SteelPalm July 13, 2017 2:25 AM  

@69

Marie and Henri Curie were Pole and devout Catholics. Her husband probably actually earned the rewards, but evidently he was more-or-less reclusive and was happy to have her accept the accolades. She did a lot of the work, but he was the genius.

Oh, it's far worse than that. Marie Curie is nothing more than a feminist scam.

She was a trained lab-rat; a 12 year-old of average intelligence could do everything Curie did, which was simply sifting through radioactive material for many years in search of new elements.

It was painstaking and INCREDIBLY dangerous, but required very little scientific knowledge.

Remember, Marie Curie was a governess with no real higher-level science education before meeting Pierre (not Henri; you're likely confusing her husband with Henri Becquerel).

She was taught these lab techniques by Pierre Curie, the ACTUAL scientist.

Moreover, discovering the new elements radium and polonium? Fairly useless, in terms of scientific advancement.

Again, Marie was never more than a feminist scam.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 13, 2017 2:30 AM  

"Moreover, discovering the new elements radium and polonium? Fairly useless, in terms of scientific advancement."

Now where would we be without neutron triggers?

Anonymous DirkH July 13, 2017 2:33 AM  

@9. pathfinderlight July 12, 2017 7:05 PM
" It's well known that liberal attack dogs like to dress up their anti-right propaganda as academic work."

Since when is there a difference between leftist propaganda and academic work?

Blogger Shimshon July 13, 2017 3:07 AM  

"Now, I neither know anything nor care about DNS lookups or servers so long as my Internet is working."

Don't you mean "muh Internet?" (BTW my neighborhood was recently upgraded to 4G; I love the scientits that put this package together!)

Besides the obvious tell of mentioning the gender of the alleged fall-taker, it's hard to see an actual, male...ahem...computer scientist...even thinking about a completely unrelated incident that has zero to do with technology, let alone writing so much verbiage on it. There are plenty of other incidents even an SJW nerd can draw from that would have more relevance as a comparison, and still sound just as gamma. It's a stretch even for those wretches.

I don't know if I will be able to read more than 10% of that way too detailed article. But they don't call it Weaponized Autism for nothing.

Blogger The Observer July 13, 2017 3:14 AM  

@89

Very interesting. Got some material I can read on this?

Anonymous Forrest Bishop July 13, 2017 3:28 AM  

A Meme is Born

@15 July 12, 2017 7:19 PM. Scientits are accidentally (re)discovered
@66 July 12, 2017 10:13 PM ...and reduced to practice.

.....

tublecane wrote:@20-I have used "fall gal." I don't imagine they appreciate that.

"Scapegoat" is a histrionic term, which would be womanly to use. But I suppose it's been abused enough to barely mean anything by now.


The word is used by men as well, and the meaning is as deep and pervasive as "hero".
http://www.castaliahouse.com/scapegoats-and-sky-monsters/

R. Scott Peck uses it in People of the Lie (paraphrased from memory):

'If I could reduce the definition of evil to a single sentence it would be this:

Evil is scapegoating.'

Blogger tublecane July 13, 2017 3:54 AM  

@94-"Scapegoat" is a fine word when used appropriately. In the context of purportedly having an employee take the fall for someone else's mistake, it's histrionic. That is by no means appropriate usage, and is in fact femininely melodramatic.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop July 13, 2017 4:11 AM  

SteelPalm wrote:Again, Marie was never more than a feminist scam.

But... but... she also invented- and built- the airplane that Amelia Erhardt (sp?) bravely piloted across the great waters all by herself.

The Observer wrote:@89

Very interesting. Got some material I can read on this?


Google is your frenemy.

Blogger The Observer July 13, 2017 4:46 AM  

@96 My duckduckgo-fu is weak and turned up nothing but laurels.

Blogger SteelPalm July 13, 2017 4:57 AM  

@93

Very interesting. Got some material I can read on this?

I'm a scientist for a living, so while I've read a few biographies on Marie Curie (which were not critical and praised her), my assessment, and those of other scientists I've spoken to, is simply based on understanding her work and what it added, if anything, to early 20th century chemistry and physics.

In simplest terms, discovering an element, like a new species of bird, tells us very little.

Mendeleev's original periodic table in the 1860's had about 56 elements, at a time when 1 element was being discovered a year. By Curie's time, that number was up to 85-90, then around 105 in the mid 20th century, and about 120 today.

Do we know the discoverers of most of those elements? No. Did these mere discoveries, by themselves, without any associated theory or application, bring about any major change in physics and chemistry? No.

Moreover, as noted, the technique for sifting through radioactive material, while mind-numbingly repetitive and exceptionally dangerous, is banally simple and requires almost no knowledge of scientific theory.

A similar, but arguably worst fraud is perpetrated with DNA. Watson and Crick were the geniuses who discovered the structure.

However, SJWs try to push the idea that Rosalind Franklin, a run-of-the-mill lab worker whose X-ray crystollagraphy they happened to use (out of dozens of equally good ones available at the time), deserves as much, if not more credit than them.

This is the equivalent of crediting the guy who made Babe Ruth's bat for hitting all those home runs.

Anonymous Simplytimothy July 13, 2017 5:06 AM  

Red banner at Drudge at 5 am.

Obama DOJ gave Natalia Special Entry.


Freaking Rocky and Bullwinkle episide.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club July 13, 2017 5:39 AM  

@98 - Since we're talking internets, let's not leave out that other popular feminist fraud: "Hedy Lamarr invented WiFi!"

Blogger David Power July 13, 2017 5:47 AM  

This is obviously the work of just another Trumphobic bigot.

TRUMPHOBIA: Mental disorder induced by the watching of too much fake news.

Blogger Shimshon July 13, 2017 5:52 AM  

@98 SteelPalm It's like that movie (Hidden Figures) that credits three black women with the success of the US space program in 1960s. Yeah, right. But the myth is extremely damaging regardless (Hultgreen-Curie Syndrome is aptly named). My wife watched and came away believing whatever tripe was in it. And she's no bleeding heart lefty.

You're right about Curie's discoveries. By the 1900s, it was not hard to precipitate out and identify previously unknown elements. It was routine. Their discovery was inevitable at that point and were the discoverer a man, would have been about as notable as the discoverer of any later elements. At best, she would've merited an element named after her (which she also got). If all Einstein were known for was the Photoelectric Effect, he would've still merited more acclaim than Curie.

Speaking of Crick, he was a well-known figure at UCSD when I was there. I had friends who invited him to lunch one time (and he accepted). Just some undergrads.

Blogger Tizona del Cid July 13, 2017 6:55 AM  

Did anyone else not get the sense that something was off right from the very moment you read "his" chosen psuedonym?

When I read that his chosen psuedonym was "Tea Leaves," I thought: "huh, well perhaps he's just one of those hippie/hipster/gay men who wear manbuns and hang out all day on their overpriced Apple laptops in Starbucks, sipping away on their overpriced soy lattes." Then I read "his" other pseudonym. Seriously, what man would ever name himself Lea Vestea, cyclical permutation or not? I have a hard time seeing even the most flamingly gay man doing that. I mean, Vestea/Vesta was a Roman godDESS, of all things.

The dashed section was the last nail in her coffin, as it were.

Blogger Midnight Avenue J July 13, 2017 7:20 AM  

Tranny, for sure. Lea Vestea...that's like the creme de la creme of tranny names right there. That affected manner of saying "who is a woman" almost screams itself in a black drag voice if I've ever heard one.

Blogger Midnight Avenue J July 13, 2017 7:22 AM  

tranny, woman, does it really matter? Tea Leaves, Lea Vestea...it's not a man writing for sure

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 13, 2017 7:37 AM  

As much as I agree with the rationale for the woman tell, you've got to admit that it's getting increasingly hard to be sure in this world of feminized men.

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 13, 2017 7:45 AM  


JAG wrote:"Scientits" - I am witnessing the birth of a dank meme out of a mere typo. Sometimes the memes just seem to create themselves ex nihilo.

Yep, I think it would be safe to bet that the best of these come about spontaneously and serendipitously (if that's a word). Trying too hard tends to have bad results.

Anonymous Mike Rock July 13, 2017 8:01 AM  

Here's an article from ZH about some REAL 'Scape goats':
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-11/tuesday-humor-public-union-files-grievance-against-poison-ivy-eating-goats-stealing-?page=1

God bless..

Anonymous Avalanche July 13, 2017 9:04 AM  

"That nonsense about 'woman taking the fall'? Author shoots self in foot by revealing bias so blatantly."


OMG!! General Flynn is a WOMAN!?!?!?

Blogger Student in Blue July 13, 2017 10:28 AM  

The tenth computer scientits knows how to do it and is being very, very quiet about it.

If only more people realized how true this is.

Anonymous CarpeOro July 13, 2017 11:13 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Emmett Fitz-Hume wrote:"Back off Man, she's a Scientits."

A scientits has to be attractive, which pretty much closes off the Ghostbusters movie



Yeah, I immediately thought of Denise Richards in the "The World Is Not Enough". At no time could I suspend my disbelief regarding her being a scientist. Scientits fits however.

As for Marie Curie, her greatest contribution to science really appears to be the syndrome Vox mentions every so often. Hultgren-Curie I believe.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 13, 2017 12:22 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:Pierre (not Henri; you're likely confusing her husband with Henri Becquerel).
Thanks for the correction.

Anonymous Big Bill July 13, 2017 12:48 PM  

@98:

Forget Hedy Lamarr. I offer a profound Thank You to The Catwoman (Julie Newmar) for her inventions:

https://patents.google.com/?inventor=julie+newmar

Anonymous andon July 13, 2017 1:25 PM  

Oh, it's far worse than that. Marie Curie is nothing more than a feminist scam.

this is sad to hear, actually

Blogger tublecane July 13, 2017 2:11 PM  

@98-"A similar, but arguably worst fraud is perpetrated with DNA"

It would be worse had the fraud been successful. Fortunately in Franklin's case they don't give Nobel Prizes to dead people.

If you have any familiarity with the DNA story or the "herstory" of science, you'll hear her name. But the general public has never heard f her. Marie Curie, on the other hand, has name recognition just below Einstein and Newton. That is a successful sham, and therefore worse.

Blogger tublecane July 13, 2017 2:13 PM  

@100-Isn't it enough that someone as gorgeous as her did something more with her life than go down on important men? I'd give her a Nobel Prize for mastering arithmetic.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 13, 2017 3:23 PM  

Actually, starting from the whole, "I predict that The Donald..." is a flashing red sign. This is emotional, bragging women's language. I know, I am one, and that's how I speak. The words, "very risky," are women's words, as well, not pajama boy language. This is how a woman's stream of consciousness works, barfed out, directly to print. Pajama boy language is regular male language, just with smarmy, passive-aggressive anger.

Blogger Mish in Utah July 13, 2017 4:43 PM  

"Lesser people" is my vote for the tell.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 13, 2017 8:38 PM  

blame his own extremely risky actions upon.

My vote is on this. Men don't criticize risk itself, they criticize failure.

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