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Thursday, July 27, 2017

Tribalism and the Alt-Right

The Men of the West explain why the current historical trends are making the Alt-Right inevitable:
Imagine you lived your whole life in a quiet suburb that was just far enough away from the metro area where no one bothered you. It’s full of upper middle class homes, very low crime rate and you’re generally afforded a peaceful life. You don’t notice at first, but soon your way of life is getting chipped away at. The people from neighboring towns, whom you have no quarrel with and have rarely interacted with start trash talking your town. Sure, you can ignore it. Maybe it’s just petty jealousy and there is no advantage for you to get involved at all; let them say what they want.

As time goes on, the anger from the towns around you grows, the rhetoric gets dialed up and soon you’re being painted as evil just for living in your town. People from the other towns start coming through your town, holding demonstrations and demanding that you apologize for being a resident of that town and demanding that you give in to other demands from the towns around you. They demand payouts from businesses who face boycotts if they don’t relent. You find that you’re just not as comfortable being out in public anymore because your quiet life has been disturbed. Even so, you tell yourself that if you keep your head down, this will all blow over because there’s nothing to it and you’re not one of the bad guys. You’re not even sure who the bad guys are really supposed to be.

You’ve never had a reason to look down on the people from the towns around you. You’ve been more than content to let them leads the lives they see as most beneficial to them and you pay them no mind at all. You have no hatred or resentment, nor feelings or superiority either. But now you’re being pushed. Your’e being encroached on. Your way of life is threatened by people that have no business telling you how to live your life, but they’re doing it anyway. They’ve painted you as a hater, a terrorist, and any other negative label they can pin on you. They get control of the media. They shame people relentlessly for not conforming to their way of doing things. At what point do you get fed up and start fighting back?

Welcome to identity politics in America.
You can't escape identity politics because you don't approve of them any more than you can escape crime or war. It's not an option. Once they are upon you, you must accept the new situation and revise your thinking accordingly.

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109 Comments:

Anonymous Rickaby July 27, 2017 4:16 AM  

Precisely. The world doesn't care if you don't like identity politics or not. It's here now and it's not going away (no matter how bitter you get). That means we have to deal with it.

Anonymous JAG July 27, 2017 4:22 AM  

Sums up quite nicely one of the two main reasons I am Alt-Right.

1) The Washington Generals.
2) The left wouldn't leave me the hell alone.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass July 27, 2017 4:51 AM  

The three options he gave, running is what whites used to do. It seems like the part of the country that is relevant is finally woke. To paraphrase a well known Commie: you may not be interested in identity politics but identity politics is interested in you.

Blogger Twisted Root July 27, 2017 5:15 AM  

Deportation for criminal defamation of the native population by paperwork citizens.

End to dual nationality.

Dependants to apply for citizenship individually.

IQ tests for citizenship.

Native language tests for citizenship.

All retrospective. If they fail, they have to go back.





Blogger Lovekraft July 27, 2017 5:54 AM  

It reminds me of that counter to the charge of anti-this or -phobic:

I'm not anti- , it's just that I'm not PRO-.

I'm not -phobic, tt's just that I'm not -philia.

Shifts the onus away from defending my actions to how I shouldn't be required to support something. Makes the marxist appear aggressive and intolerant.

Blogger JACIII July 27, 2017 6:10 AM  

Yep,
Hiding in the rabbit hole will exempt no one. The rabbits will be the second wave salughter victims, closely following after the allies' "unfortunate" fate is rendered.

We are lucky that at such an early stage in the conflict the left has no fear of vocalizing the fact a caucsion can under no circumstances be considered a neutral party. The instant one begins paying any attention at all it becomes obvious one's team was preselected by his enemy long ago.

Anonymous Gardner July 27, 2017 6:15 AM  

All retrospective. If they fail, they have to go back.


Why waste time testing them, just send them all back. No exceptions.

OpenID markstoval July 27, 2017 6:22 AM  

The left has fed the idea that the black's problems are all the fault of "racist" white men for generations. And they pay them off for voting Democratic with my tax money. I have predicted we were headed towards a race war for a long time. My wife makes fun of me since the race war is not here yet. But we are headed that way never the less.

We are not allowed to talk in public about things like "High Black Populations – Not Democratic Mayors – Explain Poverty and Crime in Large American Cities" https://ofpsychandsociety.wordpress.com/2016/06/21/high-black-populations-not-democratic-mayors-explain-poverty-and-crime-in-large-american-cities/

The alt-right seems to be a reaction against the mindless delusions of the left. A move towards realism. We need to inspect and discuss the facts.

Anonymous JAG July 27, 2017 6:54 AM  

Gardner wrote: All retrospective. If they fail, they have to go back.



Why waste time testing them, just send them all back. No exceptions.


Yep. Got too damn many people in the USA right now. Don't need any more. Need less.

Anonymous Where is Diocletian July 27, 2017 7:03 AM  

It is true, there cannot be a person who uses YT FB TWR etc who is oblivious to this cultural revolt. Although a certain percentage of the masses will inevitably fail to see beyond the superficial level of a meme for example, the vast majority of people will have understood the opposing positions and will have an opinion as to which side they sympathise with. Great, but this is not enough, being a mere moral supporter to others who are out there attracting flak is akin to being an conscientious objecter in the face of a rampaging enemy army.

Thank God we do not find ourselves literally having to fight the enemy hand to hand with all the physical and human destruction that goes with that, The war is linguistic the war is philosophic the war is SPIRITUAL, all of us on this side have a duty to speak Truth and to call out bs, not everyone can physically protest or blog or rhetoric lyrical but we can all make sure that we get ourselves up to speed on WHY and WHAT we believe.

The arguments are already won, we just need to get out there (wherever) and use them, propagate them and insist on their logical consequences. Refute lies with Truth. Truth is under attack and because of that, everything Rational, Decent, beautiful is under attack. By the Grave of God, Truth is actually the only thing that can save itself. Speak it loud and aggressively, speak it continually and nail their fucking lies!

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Blogger Ransom Smith July 27, 2017 7:05 AM  

I really hope it doesn't come to it.
But I have this gut feeling a race war or at least racial cleansing is nearly unavoidable.

Blogger Twisted Root July 27, 2017 7:09 AM  

Gardner wrote: All retrospective. If they fail, they have to go back.



Why waste time testing them, just send them all back. No exceptions.


It is all about wasting time and resources of the enemy. What would be most effective?

Blogger Stilicho July 27, 2017 7:10 AM  

@markstoval: you're guilty of Noticing and Noticing is WRONG! Report to the nearest public education center for re-education.

The nanny State, horrible as it is, has always been a temporary measure for the left: their ultimate goal is the Nurse Ratched state.

Blogger ZhukovG July 27, 2017 7:11 AM  

One of the advantages that Europe has over the US is that they know who they are. They are German, French, English etc., and have been for centuries.

White is a color, not a nationalitiy.

Just as German nationalists of the 18th and 19th century developed the 'idea' of the German Nation, we 'American' nationalists must develop the 'idea' of what the American Nation is.

I agree that the Founding Fathers would have considered the American Nation to be the largely Anglo-Saxon, children of Albion. But, what is the American Nation in the 21st century? What unites it? What is it's National core territory vs. claimed territory?

The 21st century American Nation could be Anglo-Saxon/Southern(Scot-Irish?)/German-Nordic. But does that cast the net too wide? Not wide enough?

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Anonymous where is Diocletian July 27, 2017 7:14 AM  

@ Ransom Smith
As I see it, it's either going to be..
Jesus, Mo or Stalin. I know who I would prefer.

Blogger Thanks, J. July 27, 2017 7:15 AM  

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Blogger Phillip George July 27, 2017 7:15 AM  

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

MARTIN NIEMÖLLER.
This quote can only be attributed to the History Books after the Mandela effect butchered it...

What Niemuller really said was:

"First they came for Charlie Hebdo, and I spoke up because I knew the Meme Makers were next..."

Je Suis Meme Makers".

Blogger Thanks, J. July 27, 2017 7:17 AM  

SWPL middle class, rich "progressive" P.C. politics results on them being so comfortable in their status and their place for long enough that they make their enemies other Whites, their own god damn countrymen, and more broadly other Westerners. So the "white trash", Trump supporters, the redneck red states, are the people from neighboring towns it's like they've rarely interacted with but that have become intolerable by just existing. SWPL progs will support importing tens of millions more Central Americans, Africans and Asians to suppress the "racist" white trash America, their hated enemy outside the gated community. Whatever chaos and decline this inevitably produces will increasingly be blamed on the non-P.C. "lower status" Whites as we see with MSM's vicious "frontlash" attacks on Whites. Blacks, everybody, are trouble because of you white man. Etc.

Blogger Stilicho July 27, 2017 7:29 AM  

You want to cause the enemy to waste time and resources? Tell the blacks that the Jews and Mexicans are stealing "their" slice of the stolen pie. Tell the Mexicans the Blacks are doing likewise. Tell the Jews, well, you can't tell the Jews anything; they already know everything, just ask them.

In the end though, such efforts can only buy a temporary respite at best because the enemy serves entropy and decay, it is their avowed end game and any delays must be used to prepare and launch offensive action to defeat them and rebuild.

Anonymous ReptileSeeingGlasses July 27, 2017 7:49 AM  

The Nation is too big to remain one nation, just from a practical sense--either way. It's cliche, but it really is too big to govern as a whole. I think some of this stuff is going to resolve itself, with Latinos breaking off California, and eventually blacks then demanding (and getting) Georgia, parts of Mississippi and Louisiana. One break off will encourage more break offs. Like a bad divorce, they will attempt to exhort every penny from the US Taxpayers (re: white people) on the way out the door, but if the misery index gets high enough, both sides will have an acceptable threshold to take the money and run.

Those break off nations will be failed states, no doubt, but the remaining "United States" or whatever it or we are called, will be resolved to defend our borders, language and culture at that point. You take California? We will build an actual wall along Nevada, Oregon, etc etc.

Anonymous Avalanche July 27, 2017 7:49 AM  

@4 "IQ tests for citizenship.
Native language tests for citizenship."

*GENETIC* tests for citizenship! IQ and language tests are just making more paperwork "citizens" -- we don't NEED more; we need way way way fewer!

(I'd be willing if not entirely happy to accept all the Afrikaners -- even though they don't speak the language and certainly some of them wouldn't meet the IQ levels we desire -- but they are way way way more "our" people than some sort-of-English speaking smart-for-their-kind Indian or Chinese!)

If the (((world leaders in genetic research))) can use genetic testing to deny (((right of return))) (to a place they've never been!); then we White Euro-derived folks need to use it to determine the right of "no you CAN'T come here!" (AND "no you can't stay here!")

Blogger Silly but True July 27, 2017 7:50 AM  

"First they came for the scientifically-correct biologically-based gender assigned at birth... Next they came for the trannies..."

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 27, 2017 7:52 AM  

Stilicho wrote:You want to cause the enemy to waste time and resources? Tell the blacks that the Jews and Mexicans are stealing "their" slice of the stolen pie. Tell the Mexicans the Blacks are doing likewise.

Yes, this. It's no end game, that's for sure. But it certainly would cause them to waste resources and would be very entertaining.

And the embers for these conflicts are already there, they just need some fanning and a bit more fuel.

Blogger tuberman July 27, 2017 7:56 AM  

What's noticeable about open White Middle Class communities that are fairly safe (not talking here about gated upper middle class or rich communities with armed guards). The kids in these open White Middle Class communities stick closely to the areas they grow up or use a car to go to other "safe" communities where distant friends sometimes reside. These kids are not "free range" kids like even two decades ago. Good kids know better then to hang out at malls, walk or take their bikes to explore wherever they please.

The complete way earlier children grew up is hemmed in and almost gone.

Blogger ZhukovG July 27, 2017 7:58 AM  

An attempt by the African-American Nation to control significant territory in the South will result in the extermination of that nation. They should consider themselves fortunate if granted a strip of territory along the Mississippi river.

Though I am sympathetic to the Afrikaner plight, they are not Americans. They cannot come here. They must solve their own problems or die.

Anonymous ReptileSeeingGlasses July 27, 2017 8:02 AM  

ZhukovG, I think that IS what will happen. CA will cause blacks to demand (and then receive) parts of the South, either as one or two "nations", and those nations will fail--and given that the white generations to come will have history to look back upon--ZF will be given and the land will be taken back one way or the other. CA will become a satellite of Mexico, then, ultimately China. Alaska will be annexed by Russia.

Blogger tuberman July 27, 2017 8:09 AM  

27.Zhukov

"They must solve their own problems or die."

They will die, and when it starts it will be over fast, a wake up call for the White World. It will not just be whites, as outsider African tribes, and most browns will be slaughtered too, yet the Whites are hated most. Then the Chinese will take over because the Blacks are corrupt, incompetent, and very stupid, and they will silently genocide the Blacks.

Africa the rotted sewer.

Blogger Johnny July 27, 2017 8:12 AM  

In the same way the Civil War was only a little bit about slavery and mainly about state's rights and taxation, civil rights are only a little about race relations and mainly about class conflict in the white community. By way of example, Martin Luther King was mainly a media creation. Lacking press coverage he would be no more notable than Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton --- quickly forgotten, and no 'day' or national hero status.

We will see the alt right stuff as defined here coming about when some minority group or collection of minority groups becomes powerful enough to have its own, true, independent agenda, and that agenda not in conformity with our social elite's desires. What a shame we have to screw up the country before it happens.

Same thing in Europe with the current Islam invasion.

Anonymous Johnny Mayonnaise July 27, 2017 8:14 AM  

@5 Lovekraft said:
I'm not -phobic, it's just that I'm not -philia.

You're on the right track, but lefties will simply respond: "If you don't like it, you're against it."

That's non sequitur, but if indeed you are against it, don't let them define you emotionally. Try this, instead:

"I'm not homophobic. I'm homo averse."

Anonymous Rocklea July 27, 2017 8:20 AM  

As men in the west discover the alt right using tactics of the enemy effectively, they will come to see winning as the only choice. Small victories will combine to improve morale. Those willing to stand and not back down will gain support. How about those boy scouts? Trump is smart.

Blogger Gloriam Deo July 27, 2017 8:22 AM  

yeah, not a single one of my alt right friends wishes they had to be. they are because they must be. whats the old saying? push a good man long enough...

Blogger tuberman July 27, 2017 8:25 AM  

"Martin Luther King was mainly a media creation."

Yeah, MLK was and is a total lie, that's why the FBI papers on him are suppressed.

It wasn't just the Media, all of the left including the academics decided, "It was his time," much like O'mussie. When the pendulum fully swings back, all the MLK streets and monuments will disappear. MLK was a lowlife.

Blogger tuberman July 27, 2017 8:28 AM  

32. Rocklea

Gen Z belongs to the West.

Blogger ZhukovG July 27, 2017 8:28 AM  

@ReptileSeeingGlasses: Because I am an optimist, here is what I see some number of decades in the future.

The 'American Federal Republic', or whatever it's called, will possess all territory currently occupied by the current American Union, including Alaska and Hawaii.

The total remaining population after the coming 'time of troubles', will be between 100 and 120 million people. Tens of millions will die or flee.

The demographic breakdown will be, 80% American(however that is defined), 7% other Europeans, 5% African-American, 3% Latino, 5% Asian and other.

Only Americans will have full citizenship and voting rights.

African-Americans and Latino's will be granted reservations with limited autonomy.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 27, 2017 8:35 AM  

Johnny Mayonnaise wrote:"I'm not homophobic. I'm homo averse."

Sounds weak. You're staying on their territory, arguing what's wrong with you.

How about ``Oh, you're one of those homophiles.'' Marginalize and outgroup in one phrase. Make it be about them.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 27, 2017 8:39 AM  

Deportation for criminal defamation of the native population by paperwork citizens.

End to dual nationality.

Dependants to apply for citizenship individually.

IQ tests for citizenship.

Native language tests for citizenship.

All retrospective. If they fail, they have to go back.


There is little likelihood of this being an official policy of any polity the size of the USA.

OTOH, I do FULLY expect a local implementation of similar sentiment, much like during the English Civil War a man could be stopped by a gang and be asked if he was for Crown or Parliament.

The wrong answer (or even an attempt at neutrality) got him cut down.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 27, 2017 8:46 AM  

Yep. Got too damn many people in the USA right now. Don't need any more. Need less.

Back in ancient times (the 1970's) Americans steeped in worry over drowning in trash and pollution, products of Too Many People.

When this 35 year social mood mania ends and the massive hangover hits, that sentiment will return, amplified tenfold.

The urge for self-preservation will animate Americans to DRIVE OUT anyone who doesn't look like the guys on Mount Rushmore.

I all but guarantee this sentiment change is coming. It will skyrocket inversely to the DJIA, which I still forecast to fall more than almost anyone can now imagine.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 27, 2017 8:48 AM  

Sublime visual.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 27, 2017 8:54 AM  

Stilicho Tell the Mexicans the Blacks are doing likewise. Tell the Jews, well, you can't tell the Jews anything; they already know everything, just ask them.

The chasm that's now open between right and left is just one of many breaks appearing. The DNC is in crumble mode because of exactly what you wrote. Former allies are busy stabbing each other in the back DURING THIS ALMOST INVISIBLE LEVEL of realization that the tide is turning.

Wait until interest rates rise enough to choke off borrowing. The parasites will go Full Cannibal over the leftover crumbs in the empty cupboard.

Anonymous Avalanche July 27, 2017 9:08 AM  

@27 'Though I am sympathetic to the Afrikaner plight, they are not Americans. They cannot come here. They must solve their own problems or die."

I was proposing a trade! White Euro-derived peoples built South Africa, just as White Euro-derived (mostly, yes, Albion-derived!) peoples built the U.S. Big-old position swap: the African(-derived) "Americans" can have South Africa with all its remnants of a White Euro-derived civilization and infrastructure ("if they can keep it!"); and we will take what's left of the Whites who built the Euro-derived, now mostly destroyed, country there.

Anonymous Avalanche July 27, 2017 9:13 AM  

You guys keep mis-spelling this!

Martin Luther King was mainly a (((media))) creation. The whole thing was formed and run by the (((Tribe)))! MLK was a sort-of-useful idiot... willing to be front-man (using someone else's words some of the time) as long as he got his money and White hookers! And THAT is why the paperwork and records are all locked up!

Anonymous Avalanche July 27, 2017 9:15 AM  

@36 "The 'American Federal Republic', or whatever it's called, will possess all territory currently occupied by the current American Union, including Alaska and Hawaii."

There's already talk of 'giving away Hawai'i -- or of giving it "its freedom." (I suggest we dump Puerto Rico first,and send all their unwelcome imvaders back too!) The Phillipines can go after we 'free' Hawai'i; -- we don't NEED to be out that far in the Pacific! It's not longer the 30's and 40s!!

Anonymous Johnny Mayonnaise July 27, 2017 9:20 AM  

@37 Ominous Cowherd wrote:
Sounds weak. You're staying on their territory, arguing what's wrong with you.

(1) Stating the truth is never weak. If you publicly state: "I'm against abortion," is that weak?

(2) Who says it's their territory? And if it is, I'll do everything possible to make it my territory.

(3) Within this context, there's nothing wrong with me.

By the way, Vox has mentioned repeatedly on this blog that he continues to comment on Twitter specifically because it's SJW territory.

Blogger ZhukovG July 27, 2017 9:26 AM  

@Avalanche: What can I say, I am an optimist.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 27, 2017 9:42 AM  

It would be best if conservatives and many of you still are in the conservative intellectual mode to actually take a look at who comprises the Left.

They are not the 10 foot tall monsters of political and social omnipotence that the moron conservative opinion leaders told us they were, they are in fact freaking pathetic.

Blogger Bobo #117 July 27, 2017 10:03 AM  

"I really hope it doesn't come to it.
But I have this gut feeling a race war or at least racial cleansing is nearly unavoidable."

Agree.
It sucks, but your skin color will be your uniform.

Blogger Roger G2 July 27, 2017 10:08 AM  

I've preached it since I began reading the blog. Identity politics: you may have no interest in it, but it's sure interested in you. Or some variation of that.
Cant thank you enough for the work you do, VD.

Blogger GracieLou July 27, 2017 10:20 AM  

@26 "Good kids know better then to hang out at malls, walk or take their bikes to explore wherever they please."

There's a story just out of Liverpool where a gang of 3rd World "yoots" chimping through the streets attacking white people. The confused white people thought it was ISIS. But alas, twas just another day in the ghetto. Welcome to the jungle Britain.

I remember back in the 90's a series of tourist deaths in America. Europeans, mostly Germans, wandered into no-go zones and got jacked. Every sane white American knew not to go in those places but if we had to explain it in public we'd say, "It's a high-crime area" but amongst ourselves we'd say, "Don't go past 38th street, it's Negroville." Europeans, not understanding this very simple marker of "high-crime" had no clue what neighborhoods to stay out of. A "high-crime area" map was proposed and there commenced a lot of bitching about guns and the savagery of "Americans."

Fast forward to today. You have a large number of bumble-headed Europeans fighting to the death on TwitFace over the existence of no-go zones. Swedes are the worst. They think Malmo is lovely. I'm sure they haven't been there lately. But they know it's lovely. They KNOW IT. They cannot yet fathom the concept of Negroville.

But they'll get the hang of it. One day soon they'll drive down a street and see a kebob shop, a pay-day loan and uni-brow waxing salon and Fiona will say, "Oh bloody hell, turn the car around."


http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/muslim-gang-rampaged-through-liverpool-13392480#ICID=sharebar_twitter

Anonymous Identitarian July 27, 2017 10:28 AM  

As a proud member of the AltWhite, I'm glad that Vox is finally coming around. We are all identitarians now.

Anonymous two sentries July 27, 2017 10:46 AM  

"we don't NEED to be out that far in the Pacific!"

We most certainly DO need to be that far out in the Pacific. Aside from the fact that Hawaii is prime real estate and a major strategic advantage, if were to abandon Hawaii, do you think it would remain an independent state for long? If we are not that far out in the Pacific, somebody else will certainly be, and that will put them that much closer to striking distance to the mainland.

More to the OP's point...

I know a guy who emigrated to the US from the subcontinent several decades ago. He's an astute businessman, worked hard, bought several businesses, and now lives in a nice home --not a mansion, but very very nice, better than most Americans live in-- sends his kids to top colleges, etc. etc. American Dream and all that.

Trouble is, he didn't innovate, he didn't contribute anything new, he didn't build anything an American couldn't have built, he simply kept his eyes open for the Main Chance. In other words, he's simply taking up economic and SES space which an American would have otherwise filled. Despite his on-paper success, he has simply taken from Americans and contributed nothing in return. He is parasiting (I propose we make it a verb) off things which had already been built, originally for the benefit of actual Americans, not paperwork Americans (another phrase, along with "fake Americans," which we should meme the hell out of. HHTGOB, to be sure, but you can be equally sure that he never will, unless at bayonet point. People like him, and their (((allies))), are like the monster from the original "ALien" -- no matter how hard you try to get rid of it, it will always find a way to stay glued to your ship. You have to open the air lock, then blast it off with the jets.

Anonymous two sentries July 27, 2017 10:50 AM  

Sorry, got it wrong, the acronym for 'he has to go back' Should be HHTGB.

Also, a tin teardrop.

Anonymous BBGKB July 27, 2017 10:51 AM  

All retrospective. If they fail, they have to go back.

Then you have to worry that gay jews will grade the tests.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Socialist

First they came for the jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a jew.
Then they came for the blacks, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Black.
Then they realized almost all their problems got solved so they stopped coming for people, fortunately I fled the neighborhood years ago.

. How about those boy scouts? Trump is smart.

The won the right to self identify by the supreme court in 2000 but over 9000 jew lawafare attacks forced them to take trannies last January.

Anonymous two sentries July 27, 2017 10:55 AM  

Somebody should make an update of that old "Indian crying a single teardrop" commercial, with a passel of mystery meat cruising down Route 66, playing Beach Boys songs on a high-end car stereo, bingeing on all the Americana you can fit in a single shot, while a well-dressed American stands at the intersection holding a cardboard "will work for food" sign. Pull out to reveal one of (((them))) whispering into his cell phone, "Mission accomplished. I love drinking goyisch tears."

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 27, 2017 10:56 AM  

Cleve Blakemore has a beautiful validation of this:

"Ten Things Free Men Could Do In 1975

My brother and I would plink at cans with airguns out back in the woods. Nobody called SWAT or helicopter pursuit. When you went to purchase all sorts of things, nobody ever told you first they would need to see your ID and know why you were purchasing it and who it was for. There was no general gravity of suspicion that every single thing you were saying or hearing was a lie.

I bought cough medicine for my mother at the pharmacy up the road and they sometimes told me to take two so I would have a spare box. I think I was 9 years old.

We ate a lot of candy and drank soda sweetened with sugar. It was terrible stuff but it was not aspartame. Lead content in food was policed very strictly. If you put food out discovered to have high concentrations of lead the government would put you out of business overnight. The government was well aware that lead turned people into undead brain zombies.

Of course. We saw totalitarian societies on television in both the news and in fiction. These things were the reasons America was the greatest nation on the Earth. We just didn't live like that in America. We had the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Men lived without fear of bureaucratic tyrants crushing their lives out of existence slowly.

Right around this time, a nut named Kurt Saxon was telling people that there was a plan for worldwide global government and that their primary target obstructing the road to their rule was the United States.

He said about ten thousand times that in coming years, the government would begin to stage a series of terrorist attacks on our soil so that they could bring in a totalitarian government that would turn over our sovereignty to the United Nations and they in turn would answer to a new global government with their own currency imposed on us.

You can't imagine how crazy all that sounded in 1975."

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 27, 2017 11:02 AM  

"As a proud member of the AltWhite, I'm glad that Vox is finally coming around."

Yes, altard. The speedboat finally caught up with the shipwreck.

Now run along and polish your precious Brand before it gets mistaken for the EU.

Anonymous Roters.Libs.Push July 27, 2017 11:07 AM  

I find it interesting, constantly seeing these types of articles and listening to the constant harping of Muslims and the Left in general. They always claim THEY are the "vulnerable" communities and "at risk" and all these kind of, "feminine" womanly "domestic-abusy" type phrases to constantly make their opponents (e.g. normal people) appear to be monsters.

I have practiced routinely turning it around, in ANY conversation with anyone that brings it up: "I just want my kids to be safe, to be able to do things like, go to a pop concert without being murdered for simply being (INSERT identifier: White, Christian, Non-Muslim, whatever).

We need COMPLETELY ADOPT their defensive posture, not as our ONLY tool, and I know many do not like playing the victim (sounds too much like the whole "democrats are the real racists"), but we need to START by being defensive in order to reset the tone, the narrative..what is/is not acceptable in discourse.

Non-whites are SO USED to controlling every single conversation and meta-narrative, we MUST constantly re-position those discussions and let them create the natural conflict they are bound to cause.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/1acf5502-9470-3473-806f-78a0972a6a54/us-muslims-concerned-about.html

Blogger Elocutioner July 27, 2017 11:32 AM  

We just wanted to be left alone. But then they came for the homeschoolers. ... Then they came for the militia... Then they came for the guns... Then they came for their political opponents... Then anyone who denied their corrupted science... Then they came for the cake makers... Then they came for BDS boycotters... Then we finally said "that's enough, deviant" and we started to fight back. Then they cried out as we deported them, "who will speak for me!" We don't care - we've heard quite enough already.

Seems like we could do with far fewer socialists, trade unionists, and Jews attacking our way of life and, surprise!, fomenting a coup against the legitimate government. I'd rather not have my grandchildren fighting these same assholes because we didn't finish the job.

Anonymous BBGKB July 27, 2017 11:40 AM  

Non-whites are SO USED to controlling every single conversation and meta-narrative, we MUST constantly re

I had my "White lives matter" shirt on in a restaurant that a boy scout troop showed up at. A wetback tried to start something with a scout that had a confederate flag hat & did the appeal to the manager thing. I yelled out "fake Americans have to go". I told the scouts that as long as they are white nothing they do will make leftists think they are not racist so no point in trying to accommodate their chimp outs.

Wetback says I should go outside and fight him. I said "everybody listen up I have no desire to fight him, but if he attacks me when I leave I will defend myself" pointed at the wetback "if you are too stupid to understand what I just said, you can't call yourself a victim if you attack me & I beat you down no matter how much you cry for mercy because if you look at WHITE GIRL BLEED A LOT dot COM you will see that 3rd worlders will cry for mercy then sucker punch after they get it. I may very well come back in here and say your last words were that you wanted your son to be adopted by gays" Suffice to say he wasn't there when I left.

Blogger Mocheirge July 27, 2017 11:49 AM  

BBGKB wrote:I may very well come back in here and say your last words were that you wanted your son to be adopted by gays" Suffice to say he wasn't there when I left.

Whoa, nathan_explosion_brutal.gif

Blogger DonReynolds July 27, 2017 11:58 AM  

I am always amused by the common viewpoint, that in the coming conflict, many people will choose to sit on their couch and watch it all on cable news, while munching on popcorn. Of course, that is nonsense.

In the event of conflict in this country, every person will be participating in some capacity (willingly or unwillingly) and there will likely be more than two sides to the conflict. That is not to say that everyone will be in the infantry, since there many different ways to participate and support the cause.

The conflict may be so asymetrical that some people may not even know which side they are helping or what cause they are supporting. The only thing they will know is they are getting fed and are protected from others. The rest won't matter much.

Nobody will have the option of sitting out the conflict at home. There will plenty of work for everyone.

Blogger horsewithnonick July 27, 2017 11:58 AM  

When called homophobic, racist, etc, over some fact or opinion i have expressed, i prefer the reply "that's not an argument" over a defensive, and inevitably futile, denial.

In their minds, the accusation is the proof and the conviction, so it's better to force them out of that frame and into yours.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 27, 2017 11:59 AM  

Johnny Mayonnaise wrote:Who says it's their territory?

If an SJW says you're homophobe, and you say you're really something else, he's made it about you, and you're going along with it. You're arguing the argument he wants to argue. You've adopted his frame, you're fighting on his chosen ground.

Turn it around, make it about him. ``Oh, you're one of those homophiles.''

Roters.Libs.Push wrote:Non-whites are SO USED to controlling every single conversation and meta-narrative, we MUST constantly re-position those discussions and let them create the natural conflict they are bound to cause.

Yes.

Blogger Shimshon July 27, 2017 12:02 PM  

This reminiscing about how good we X-ers had it growing up makes me wonder if anything ever happened with Vox's request for submissions.

Blogger 1100 July 27, 2017 12:03 PM  

"Why are you HETEROPHOBIC?"

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 27, 2017 12:03 PM  

horsewithnonick wrote:In their minds, the accusation is the proof and the conviction, so it's better to force them out of that frame and into yours.

I think we're on the same track. Attack, outgroup and marginalize. Make it about them, not about you.

Anonymous Anonymous July 27, 2017 12:24 PM  

Whites need to figure out that they don't need to feel so dam guilty about everything. There's an irrational fear by whites of being labeled racist or bigoted in some way. Need to find a way to get feel of this phobia. When i debate a lib and they throw the racist label at me i just accept and say so what? Now lets just get to the points and facts of the debate. This usually gets them stammering and stuttering pretty good.

Anonymous Grayman July 27, 2017 12:27 PM  

@8

The left has fed the idea that the black's problems are all the fault of "racist" white men for generations

Not just crime. All the shouting about edumacation!!! While yes public education is a disaster, The major performance issues are simply racial. Blacks and Hispanics do not perform at the level of white westerners or Asians. Look at PISA when broken down by race:

2015 PISA results:

http://imgur.com/a/idADj

"Good" schools are generally schools with little to no Hispanic or Black population. Guess what happens to school performance as soon as you increase either of those 2 populations???

All the talk of "where are the good schools" is real talk of "where are the white schools", society just wont allow it to be framed in that manner, if for no other reason then it opens a serious can of worms. The fact that we have 2 populations that are essentially permanent underclasses in western societies and cant compete.

Anonymous Tipsy July 27, 2017 12:32 PM  

Modifying Pericles: Just because you do not take an interest in identity politics doesn't mean identity politics won't take an interest in you.

Anonymous Grayman July 27, 2017 12:34 PM  

@22

Those break off nations will be failed states, no doubt, but the remaining "United States" or whatever it or we are called, will be resolved to defend our borders, language and culture at that point. You take California? We will build an actual wall along Nevada, Oregon, etc etc.

Those failed states cannot stand. The masses will not willingly languish in those failed states, they will mass migrate to the nearest state that is successful. The arrangement you describe would never be stable.
Either the entire region becomes failed states as the chaos spreads with the migration of those from the failed state or the strong states that coalesce conquer the failed states (most likely an ethnic cleansing). You cannot have an "Ethiopia" next to a "Germany" and expect stability in any sense of the word.

Blogger Thucydides July 27, 2017 12:38 PM  

@63
While in general you are correct on a tactical level (especially for people trapped in the suburbs in large metropolitan areas), on the larger level any civil race or class war in America will resemble the Pacific "Island Hopping" campaign of WWII. The Blue cities and counties are disconnected islands in a sea of "Red", and can easily be cut off to wither on the vine.

Perhaps most of the action will be containing the Blue population so they will be forced to fight each other for the remaining resources inside their bubbles, and sending in rescue missions to the suburbs and exurbs to extract Americans trapped within.

Indeed we can do a lot of the preparation of the battlespace even now, focusing on cutting ties with the Blue cities and counties while developing alternative goods and services to the ones which come from there. Using clever memes to stoke "intersectional conflict" and "Samizdat" to spread them under the radar of media and hostile social media platforms also can be used to turn much of their energy against each other rather than against Americans. And of course anything which causes them to expend resources at a greater rate now (like the $20 million spent on losing a special election in Georgia) also empties their war chests for when things become critical (election years) and when things finally turn "hot".

One thing which I don't think a lot of us have really considered is salvaging our history and cultural heritage now, while we can, and preserving it like the monks in Ireland to rebuild at a later date. Browse used book stores and other places and gather and preserve histories, stories and anything else which could be valuable. The cutoff date for written work is probably no later than the mid 1970's.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 27, 2017 12:46 PM  

ZhukovG

"The 21st century American Nation could be Anglo-Saxon/Southern(Scot-Irish?)/German-Nordic. But does that cast the net too wide? Not wide enough?"

Probably easier to focus on who is clearly not part of the American nation in the 21st century, on stopping the influx of fake Americans, and reestablishing a common culture. Most of the rest will sort itself out.

Anonymous Tipsy July 27, 2017 12:50 PM  

It never ceases to amaze me that what I saw as a student at Berkeley in the 80s is now mainstreamed in urban America:

1) Political correctness and speech codes
2) Shouting down political opposition
3) Celebration of sexual experimentation and perversion, and the lionization of all things gay and lesbian
4) Radical feminism and misandrosy
5) Widespread ridicule of Christianity
6) Universal recrimination of white America for every social ill, and with it a demand that all whites have an attitude of self-loathing.
7) Denouncing of centrist Democrat party policy as insufficiently progressive
8) Support for communism masked as popular movements
9) Promulgating narratives that paint America's history as evil
10) Educational priorities that steer instruction away from civics and great works.
11) The simultaneous assertion that America has no culture, while replacing said culture exclusively with pop-culture centered in New York and Hollywood

This arc cannot sustain itself; the question is, where and when does it stop?

Blogger DonReynolds July 27, 2017 12:53 PM  

During the first two centuries of the American experience, the prevailing notion was the "trembling defense". In the event of Indian uprising, the white settlers would rush to the nearby forts and blockhouses for mutual protection. Often this worked well and the rest of the time it did not. Gradually and slowly, the "trembling defense" was replaced by "seek out and destroy" philosophy, with quick moving military formations and overwhelming firepower.

In Middle Tennessee, forts and blockhouses were built nine miles apart because that was found to be the maximum distance a man on a horse could sprint....thus avoiding most Indian ambushes. The Plains Indians were a bit more trouble, having mastered the dual skills of horse stealing and light cavalry....but at least the numbers were more manageable. Still, it took several times as many white defenders to contain and destroy raiding parties.

Americans traditionally have been aggressive and not very good at defense. They feel better attacking their enemy rather than waiting for the enemy to attack. They had much rather take the fight to the enemy than allow the civil populations (women and children) to fall into the hands of the cruel enemy. Being the aggressor takes a different kind of heart.

Anonymous BBGKB July 27, 2017 1:01 PM  

I may very well come back in here and say your last words were that you wanted your son to be adopted by gays" Suffice to say he wasn't there when I left.Whoa, nathan_explosion_brutal.

The wetback was there with just his son. I figured there is no point in not pushing his buttons.

Blogger VD July 27, 2017 1:02 PM  

You're warned, Identitarian. Lie again and you'll be banned. Richard Spencer has openly supported the European Union.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 27, 2017 1:10 PM  

@Ominous Cowherd

"You've adopted his frame"

Yes. This is key. Attempting to defend against, or soften, these typical leftist ad hominems is adopting their frame. It's defensive. Counterattack instead. Set your own frame. "Anti-White hatred." "Self-hating White." The importance of "frame" is one thing that the cynical PUA types at Heartiste have right.

I prefer "homophiliacs" at times, though.

Anonymous Grayman July 27, 2017 1:18 PM  

@75 DonReynolds

Americans traditionally have been aggressive and not very good at defense. They feel better attacking their enemy rather than waiting for the enemy to attack.

Yep, and the "blues" are heavily concentrated in terribly fragile urban enclaves. Just killing their electrical supply turns those enclaves into a zombie apocalypse in a week or less.
Their very philosophy makes them vulnerable since theybelieve inbeing taken care of and love "diversity". They lack ay significant ability to stand on their own and have happily integrated dangerous populations amongst themselves that will turn on them the second they are deprived of critical resources such as electricity. The "diversity" will do most of the killing once resources are disrupted.

Blogger GracieLou July 27, 2017 1:30 PM  

"Good schools...permanent underclass"

Exactly. Ties in with the denial of no-go zones. If you've been taught your whole life that barbarism is caused by poverty, ignorance and racism how can a no-go zone exist in a country where barbarians are fed, clothed, housed, educated and racism is criminalized and controlled?

This causes too much cognitive dissonance. So to get around it they make up fairy tales. And accuse other people of whispering things they'd love to shout from the rooftops.*

*The rooftops of their gated homes (with sweeping condescending views of their bucktoothed reality-based red-neck brethren) tucked safely inside their white-topian urban enclaves the perfect driving distance to Whole Foods and their children's "good" schools.

Blogger tublecane July 27, 2017 1:31 PM  

Tribalism may be the foundation of identity feelz, but there is wide ground between tribalism and one-worldism. What I want is to preserve the old ways of modern civilization, not slip back into pre-modern or pre-civilized times. Which I hope identity politics can do.

Which isn't any kind of squeamishness. Modern civilization gave us the World Wars.

Blogger tublecane July 27, 2017 1:44 PM  

@74-It shouldn't amaze you. I never liked the term, but that's the Cathedral, man. Universities scoop up any with a modicum of intelligence and/or ambitious (though not some of the ones who are too intelligent/ambitious) and instructs them how to think for the rest of their lives. Then they go out and lead other men, thus whatever wacky notions pop into professors' heads (often fed to them by higher-ups) become mainstream within a generation.

Anonymous Grayman July 27, 2017 1:50 PM  

@62 DonReynolds

To borrow a phrase from Matt Bracken, what is coming in the US will be (Yugoslavia x Rwanda)

https://infogalactic.com/info/Yugoslav_Wars

https://infogalactic.com/info/Rwandan_Genocide

I suspect that blacks will be heavily slaughtered as they will face both white and Hispanic ethnic conflict and have historically not performed well against either. The Hispanics could put up a fierce fight in the southwest, we will have to see how bad the "anglo-american confederation" wants that territory. From a lstrategic standpoint, one big problem is the nuclear infrastructure that is in heavily hispanic regions. That will have to be secured simply due to the massive damage and impact it can have over entire regions of the nation if not maintained and managed. In a turn of the tables, I could see Russia offering to send in stabilization forces to help control nuclear infrastructure during the American conflict.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 27, 2017 2:16 PM  

It is wrong to point a gun at someone and fire if they are minding their own business. It is right to point a gun at someone and fire if they are taking aim at you. Identity politics are a weapon, but like weapons, there is a right and a wrong time to use them.

Anonymous Identitarian July 27, 2017 2:26 PM  

You're warned, Identitarian. Lie again and you'll be banned. Richard Spencer has openly supported the European Union.

Vox - here's a direct quote from Spencer: Today, the European Union is a symbol of all that is wrong: from its massive bureaucracy to its culturally destructive policies. (see http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2017/2/15/richard-spencers-interview-with-europe-maxima)

Our alt-factions should unite around fighting common enemies. In that spirit, I'm glad that you've come to embrace white tribalism.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 27, 2017 2:32 PM  

Stilicho wrote:Tell the Jews, well, you can't tell the Jews anything; they already know everything, just ask them.
Tell them the ovens are ready


When insulted to your face with a slur like homophobic, TURN IT AROUND ON THEM.

"Homophobe!"
"Why do you want to rape little boys?"

"Racist!"
"I know you're sexually attracted to Black men, but you have to face reality, not just indulge your fetish."

Calling the some made up word like "homophiliac" is weak sauce. Accusation of pedophilia hit.

Note, it DOESN'T MATTER if it makes sense.
The original insult doesn't makes sense. The objective is to kick the little weasel in his metaphorical balls and leave him scrambling for an answer.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 27, 2017 2:33 PM  

Lost part of a paragpraph
Accusations of pedophilia hit them in the emotional solar plexus. Particularly because it's often true.

Blogger ZhukovG July 27, 2017 2:36 PM  

@Identitarian: Who is the 'White' tribe?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 27, 2017 2:36 PM  

Identitarian wrote:Vox - here's a direct quote from Spencer: Today, the European Union is a symbol of all that is wrong: from its massive bureaucracy to its culturally destructive policies.
the key word...Today
Spencer just wants to be in charge of it. Then it will be good.
Seriously, are you this stupid, or are you some kind of a plant sent to discredit the alt-White?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 27, 2017 2:45 PM  

Grayman wrote:You cannot have an "Ethiopia" next to a "Germany" and expect stability in any sense of the word.

That would be a border that would take some defending. Think DMZ rather than Big, Beautiful Wall. If there's a will, there's stability.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 27, 2017 2:52 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:The objective is to kick the little weasel in his metaphorical balls and leave him scrambling for an answer.

Usually I hear that sort of PC nonsense from non-PC people who don't believe it themselves. SJWs are rare in our small town Whitopia. If I'm sure he's not SJW, I'll laugh at him and say what we both know he's thinking. If I'm not sure, it's ``Oh, you're one of those homophiliacs.''

If you are reasonably sure you're dealing with a real SJW, ``Despicable pedophile scum'' is probably a great starting point.

Francis Parker Yockey wrote:homophiliacs

I'm adopting that one.

Anonymous Grayman July 27, 2017 2:54 PM  

@90 Ominous

US geography doesn't lend itself to a DMZ in most areas where these minorities would be likely to concentrate. Unless there are geographical features to support a DMZ extermination of the weaker tribe is more likely.

Anonymous Grayman July 27, 2017 2:57 PM  

"...You're a homophobe!!!"

....Why do you support pedophilia?! Why do you support the spread of HIV?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 27, 2017 3:17 PM  

Grayman wrote:....Why do you support pedophilia?! Why do you support the spread of HIV?

Close, but still too mild and too logical.
"Why do you rape little boys?"
"How many little girls are buried in the bottom of your garden?"
"How do you stay off the sex offender list?"

Blogger VD July 27, 2017 3:40 PM  

Of late, I’ve taken the unpopular position (at least on the Alt Right) that Euro-skepticism and EU-bashing have their limits, and that we should be open to the possibilities of Europeanism.
- Richard Spencer

He did a 360 again after Brexit, which he opposed. From a Radix commenter. "Most Brexiteers have had this discussion about immigration and the EU -- and we had it years before Richard Spencer. Apologies for a very delayed reply. I dumped this site from my reading when Spencer opposed Brexit and have only looked at it recently."

Anonymous AB.Prosper July 27, 2017 3:45 PM  

Thucydides wrote:The Blue cities and counties are disconnected islands in a sea of "Red", and can easily be cut off to wither on the vine.

Easily? I'm not so sure. Another perspective from the Woodpile Report


DC has plainly stated, in public documents, they will requisition food, transportation, equipment, supplies and involuntarily servitude of any kind, in any amount, to whatever extent that pleases them in a "national emergency". Their control of the cities would rest on food distribution and essential services, then as now, and the rest of America would be stripped to make it happen. This is, plainly said, calculated annihilation, held as not only necessary but just.

DC considers their power base—the urban west and east coasts and a few colonies in between—to be the real America, supported unwillingly but rightly by deplorables living elsewhere who would otherwise act solely from pathologies born of willful ignorance and native ill will. In other times and places "deplorables" were the "untermensch" or the "masses", always seen as a dangerous, undifferentiated hive, uneducable but trainable, to be cowed and dazzled by turns, and in extremis better mourned than saved.

Compliance with DC's quotas would become law enforcement's number one priority. It would fall to the military to deal with organized resistance, which history suggests is a near-certainty. Calories and survival are nearly the same thing. The European undergrounds of World War II grew into effective forces only when workers and foodstuffs were transferred to Germany. Propaganda had no effect, it was seen for what it was: kidnapping, slave labor and looting. And so it would be here.

DC needn't target survivalists and prepper communities directly, they'd feel the follow-on effects. Towns and villages forced to ante up their quota to support the cities wouldn't endure famine when known stores of food and supplies were retrievable. Those preppers who didn't voluntarily hand over their deep larders "for the common good" would find armed committees at their door. Nor should they expect equitable treatment, they'd be condemned as unconscionable hoarders, feasting while toddlers with empty stomachs cry the night away.

In a catastrophic collapse none of this causative chain would be uppermost in anyone's mind. We necessarily deal with effects, not causes, because we live in the short term or not at all. There may be countervailing long-term events we can't envision from this side of the chasm. It would, however, be foolish to count on them. Before recovery can begin the collapse must first find its "rest state", as water finds its own level, likely a long and ugly see-saw process, deadly in its details.


Blogger DonReynolds July 27, 2017 4:04 PM  

Grayman wrote:@75 DonReynolds

Americans traditionally have been aggressive and not very good at defense. They feel better attacking their enemy rather than waiting for the enemy to attack.

Yep, and the "blues" are heavily concentrated in terribly fragile urban enclaves. Just killing their electrical supply turns those enclaves into a zombie apocalypse in a week or less.

Their very philosophy makes them vulnerable since theybelieve inbeing taken care of and love "diversity". They lack ay significant ability to stand on their own and have happily integrated dangerous populations amongst themselves that will turn on them the second they are deprived of critical resources such as electricity. The "diversity" will do most of the killing once resources are disrupted.


Grayman....you are one of the few who understand. Our enemies are heavily concentrated in major cities, which are completely untenable, indefensible, unsustainable,....yeah, vulnerable.

None of them have their own electricity and the lines and substations are absolutely fragile. Take away electricity and they lose motor fuel and safe drinking water, no more sewer service, nor more radio, TV, internet, or phones. Everything they eat is brought in by truck or train, none of which could get through if the city were surrounded by angry suburbs and rural partisans. The food would last long enough, but the water situation would be critical the next DAY. In less than a week, there would nobody left in any of the major cities, without the expected firefight.

Some may try to get out, but it would just be suicidal and any of our people in those cities is likely toast. Thirst and disease will claim the most, and bandits will cause their share too. This is assuming that it is not the dead of winter, in which case, cut the time in half.

Anonymous Nibiru July 27, 2017 4:18 PM  

Yet our `betters` continue to drone on: ``America has never been united by blood or birth or soil. We are bound by ideals that move us beyond our backgrounds, lift us above our interests, and teach us what it means to be citizens.``-- George W. Bush, TrueWest magazine, August 2017

Anonymous BBGKB July 27, 2017 4:23 PM  

In less than a week, there would nobody left in any of the major cities, without the expected firefight

While I agree about the electricity being DieVerse Cities weakness, the key would be more than one city losing power at the same time. With just one going down it might be managed at the level of New Orleans Katrina.

I don't think a "golden horde" would flee the cities because leftists have so much normalcy bias they will not leave their territory controlled "safe spaces" even those controlled by gangs until after they have consumed bad food/water. Food would last 3 days but its possible for people to survive weeks without food.

Someone mentioned before that 12 people could shut down NYC if they didn't plan on walking away, well there are inflatable kayaks that fit in a backpack

Blogger DonReynolds July 27, 2017 4:25 PM  

@83 Grayman
"The Hispanics could put up a fierce fight in the southwest, we will have to see how bad the "anglo-american confederation" wants that territory."

Many people expect the Mex to put up a fierce fight. Part of that may be due to the inability of the Mexican regular military to stay out of the fight. No doubt they will join in and that will be sufficient cause for the Anglo-American Confederation to drive them completely out of the Southwest.

From one end to the other of the Mexican border is desert and it is desert on BOTH sides of the border for hundreds of miles. That means the area can only be occupied by a logistically sophisticated force, which neither the Hispanics or the Mexicans have. In short, they cannot protect water towers and water treatment plants, none of which are worth ten cents without electricity. (The water infrastructure is a very soft target and the power lines all feed from the US side of the border.)

The Mexican military can bring guns and tanks into the Southwest, but not water or electricity. Slowly, they will retreat backward to their side of the historic border, taking with them....their own people. No doubt they will burn everything as they retreat and commit the usual outrages, but in the end....they will not be able to hold the Southwest USA.

Anonymous PinochetChopperPilot July 27, 2017 4:30 PM  

This cucks like Bush keep thinking, and/or acting (when they know better) as if all these paper "Americans" are, or even want to be "lifted" above "their" interests or be "taught" anything. They are here to ravage what remains of the corn feed in the barn, and then they will burn the barn down and move on to another farm. They are like termites.

I continue to spread the social/verbal meme to any and all single white females--whether positively stated as an overt Alt-right guy, or thru "negging"- that they (too, not just white men) are the SERVANTS of the brown women with babies...slaves always sounds too dramatic, I prefer "servants" as it has the sting of truth.

White woman who laments a childless adulthood well into the Wall--you are the servants, and laborers for SNAP, headstart, before and after school food and babysitting services, HUD reduced housing, vouchers of any type (transportation, housing, electricity...the feds and state have them ALL)...you are their servants and you shall serve joyfully and without child...and no, you get no "thank yous", because you see, you are also a racist.

Childless white woman = Servants of the Browns. Someone can create a good photo meme.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 27, 2017 5:20 PM  

No IQ tests for citizenship, end all immigration.

Anonymous patrick kelly July 27, 2017 5:30 PM  

"The Phillipines can go after we 'free' Hawai'i; -- we don't NEED to be out that far in the Pacific! It's not longer the 30's and 40s!!"

It's not 1898 either. They haven't been a colony/territory for a long time now. Didn't the US leave all the military bases there?

Most of the Philippines is like Afghanistan, run by tribal thugs with only a few "civilized" cities governed by anything resembling a government. Bunch of islanders barely out of the stone age.

Anonymous grayman July 27, 2017 5:32 PM  

If / when things go tribal protect your women! Read the unfiltered histories of the Yugoslavian wars or Rwanda. The brutality women will face is beyond imagination for most. Any male who isn't of your immediate clan will need to be treated as a potential lethal threat to your women.
Men get executed, perhaps tortured a bit before hand. The acts comitted against women in war make one wish for death, but often that never comes, they are left as scarred hollow shells from the brutality.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 27, 2017 6:54 PM  

Grayman wrote:Unless there are geographical features to support a DMZ extermination of the weaker tribe is more likely.

Viola, stability ...

The mountains and deserts east of California could do for a dmz, perhaps, but as long as the Leftists in CA are the weaker tribe, your solution works for me.

Anonymous Beresford July 27, 2017 7:09 PM  

@104 Read 'A Woman in Berlin' if you want a first person account of a woman who lived through such a time. It is the anonymous diary of a female journalist who survived the Russian rapes of Berlin after the occupation at the end of WW2.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 28, 2017 12:01 AM  

AB.Prosper wrote:DC has plainly stated, in public documents, they will requisition food, transportation, equipment, supplies and involuntarily servitude of any kind, in any amount, to whatever extent that pleases them in a "national emergency". Their control of the cities would rest on food distribution and essential services, then as now, and the rest of America would be stripped to make it happen.
This only works as long as the powerplants and transmission lines, oil and natural gas pipelines, railroads and highways still work.

Tannerite takes out power line towers and pipeline pumps.  Backhoes sever pipelines and fiber optic cables.  Hijacked petrolelum tankers take down freeway bridges with fire.  Prybars pull spikes from railroad ties.

To make this work, the soldiers would have to obey orders acting against their own for the sake of hostile elites and minorities.  Would a squad of Gen Z Southrons obey orders to steal from Iowa corn farmers much like themselves to feed NAMs they learned to hate in childhood?  When the locals had pulled up the rails on the sidings and had caltrops and firebombs to take out trucks?

Nope, if America decided it had had enough of the coastal parasites, things would go to hell there very quickly no matter what FedGov tried to do about it and most of the effort would be wasted.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 28, 2017 1:10 AM  

As painful as it is for me to admit it, Mr Rational is right. If it comes to a shooting war, DC has no chance.

None.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 28, 2017 1:57 PM  

Oh, DC has plenty of chances... but the devastation that a conscious, coordinated effort would wreak on the coastal elites and their NAM shock troops would be epic.  With electricity and food cut off and fuel running low, their NAMs would be their own biggest problem.

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