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Thursday, August 10, 2017

Mike Cernovich, Alt Journalist

Cernovich Media is on the rise; a surprisingly respectful profile on Mike by New York Magazine:
Cernovich claims that on April 2 an anonymous source called him on Signal to tell him that former national security adviser Susan Rice had requested the disclosure of the identities of Americans — including many related to the Trump campaign and transition — in raw intelligence reports, a process known as “unmasking.” He wrote up the tip on Medium, and then watched as it took off on social media, with help from the Drudge Report, Kellyanne Conway, and Donald Trump Jr., the president’s son, who suggested that were the media not rigged, Cernovich would receive a Pulitzer Prize.

The press, however, didn’t give him much credit for his scoop. A single anonymous source does not typically meet the threshold for publishing news at most media outlets, for starters. And then there was the issue of taking Cernovich seriously at all, given that his earlier work included stuff like a video where a sickly muppet rendering of Clinton collapsed and rose from the dead repeatedly. So when Bloomberg View reported the same news on the morning of April 3, citing “U.S. officials familiar with the matter,” it was treated differently — with total legitimacy. The Atlantic, The Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, and the Washington Times, either unaware or dismissive of the fact that Cernovich was first, wrote that Bloomberg had broken the story. And when Cernovich was cited, by NBC for instance, it was typically within the context of stories that downplayed the newsworthiness of Rice’s actions — the implication being, if the Pizzagate loon is the one with the intel, perhaps the intel isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

But by late July, everything had changed, both in how Cernovich perceived the Trump White House, and in how the press perceived Cernovich.

At 3:29 p.m. on July 28, Cernovich took to Twitter to report that a “source close to POTUS” informed him, “Reince has been told he’s out.” The president himself would not announce the decision until 4:49 p.m., while sitting aboard Air Force One on a tarmac in Washington. And although other reporters would go on to say they’d heard rumors of the decision before it came down, Cernovich had the advantage of operating without the barrier of an editor or publisher or any other organizational structure that might inhibit speed — but also lower the odds of a fuck-up.

“The reason that I’m so fast at what I do is — I’m not saying that I’m getting stories that nobody else has — the difference is that if a tip goes out to five people, and I know that it’s a reliable source, I just tweet it out,” he told me. “If you’re at a respectable news organization, that would be considered irresponsible. So, me, I’m just like, ‘Oh. Sounds good. This is a vetted source. I’m rocking and rolling. Let’s get out and get the conversation going.’”
Some people might be a bit torqued at the way that Mike is doing some things differently now, but you shouldn't be. Men like him and Milo and Jack are playing a very different game than men like Stefan and me. Different rules apply. I don't support Mike because I agree with him on everything, I support him because he's a good man and he is a friend.

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Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 10, 2017 2:51 AM  

Just after Trump hit Syria with cruise missiles, wasn't Mike saying that we were about to invade Syria?

Anonymous John VI August 10, 2017 3:16 AM  

I am pretty sure that since November 8th, the Main stream news has pretty much gone from

A single anonymous source does not typically meet the threshold for publishing news at most media outlets, for starters.

To "Fuck it, lets just make shit up and say its from an anonymous source"

Anonymous rien August 10, 2017 3:19 AM  

I support him because he's a good man and he is a friend.

I wonder how many people get the significance of this bit.

Blogger Mats August 10, 2017 3:43 AM  

Mike should be hired by Trump

Blogger Harambe August 10, 2017 3:48 AM  

I support the man because he gave the Suidlanders a platform.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 10, 2017 3:53 AM  

A rubric I apply in determining whom to follow is whether or not the person provides meaningful and useful content in the war against the Anti-West collectivists. Cernovich, in my opinion, fits the bill. There are others who, although they may say SOME things which I find objectionable, offer commentary which I find valuable. Tara McCarthy is an example. Her PizzaGate commentaries were amazing. While I'm not a fan of some of her other commentaries I find her work, in large part of value and, as a result, I follow. We cannot come together on everything but we can briefly come together in opposition to a common enemy.

There's more to say but the coffee hasn't kicked in yet. That's probably a good thing.

Blogger Unknown August 10, 2017 3:58 AM  

He doesn't shoot right without good cause, either.

Something the cucks cannot say with any credibility.

Blogger Tuatha August 10, 2017 4:04 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtIREJVPfQY

Blogger Archella August 10, 2017 4:39 AM  

Mike's McMaster periscope tonight was a little weird. The guy is smart as a tack though, and lays traps for people like the GE does, so I'll wait for the next episode to see what it is all about.

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 10, 2017 4:47 AM  

@John VI

No, they've always been doing this.

You're just more alert to it now.

Anonymous Icicle August 10, 2017 6:00 AM  

Trump wrote on Twitter that he is not presidential. He is modern presidential.

In the same way, Cernovich is not a journalist. He is a modern journalist.

Anonymous Eduardo August 10, 2017 6:42 AM  

The bro-mance!

Cerno is like the Indiana Jones of Jornalism... Without jail bait affairs.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 10, 2017 6:44 AM  

"Men like ... Milo"

LOL

Anonymous Eduardo August 10, 2017 6:49 AM  

Jaime... He is still a dude... A gay dude. But a dude...

Anonymous basementhomebrewer August 10, 2017 7:03 AM  

operating without the barrier of an editor or publisher or any other organizational structure that might inhibit speed — but also lower the odds of a fuck-up.

Because, you know, editors and publishers have this arcane power to tell the truth from fiction. That is why major media never publishes false information. They could be implying their reporters are so stupid that they will believe anyone who tells them anything they want to hear.

I think what they meant to say is Mike doesn't have a publisher or editor with a political agenda so he can publish without having his scoops buried when they are inconvenient to the narrative.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 10, 2017 7:03 AM  

The enemy of my mountebank is my --

wait...

The mountebank of my friend is my --

no, wait...

Ah, fuck it: EMERGENCY MEMEGENDER -- DECLARED.

Blogger Ransom Smith August 10, 2017 7:06 AM  

Just after Trump hit Syria with cruise missiles, wasn't Mike saying that we were about to invade Syria?

Yes and be was adamant about it to. Quite certain boots were going to be in the ground in short order.

That's my observation with Mike. He's definitely a leaper not a looker. Sometimes it pays off and sometimes it doesn't. But in his favor , he's at least not afraid to try something.

Blogger Robert What? August 10, 2017 7:07 AM  

"I support him because he's a good man and he is a friend."

And honestly, what more do you need than that?

Blogger Dave August 10, 2017 7:18 AM  

Mike is doing some things differently now

Just asking what's different? He's doing another movie and I assume he's writing another book or will eventually.

Blogger Wolfman at Large August 10, 2017 7:22 AM  

Huge ego unlikable asshole. FIGHTS THE ENEMY. --> He'll do. Provide supporting fire whenever possible. DEUS VULT.

Blogger Scott C August 10, 2017 7:29 AM  

Cernovich is a fame whore, plain and simple. The real alt-muckraker is Charles Johnson.

Blogger mark auld August 10, 2017 7:38 AM  

We've entered a new age in communication where the old msm has broken down and Mike is one of the new models.Check and verify, but I think Mike has scored more goals than misses.

Blogger Ransom Smith August 10, 2017 7:43 AM  

he real alt-muckraker is Charles Johnson.

I'd hold off judgement there. Ask Pax Dickinson how Chuck is like.

Blogger Avalanche August 10, 2017 8:03 AM  

@15 "That is why major media never publishes false information."

FIFY:
That is why major media never publishes false information and always publishes all the true information they are given.

Blogger Avalanche August 10, 2017 8:11 AM  

@21 "Cernovich is a fame whore, plain and simple. The real alt-muckraker is Charles Johnson."

So, only one or the other? Can't have both? Whose rule is THAT?!

Blogger Orville August 10, 2017 8:15 AM  

Fame whore? You clearly don't understand. I don't know the man, but I've read his books and I've seen him take it up a whole order of magnitude the last 2 years. He is clearly practicing what he preaches in terms of mindset, frame and being too big to ignore. What you see as fame whoring is a series of calculated moves.

Anonymous Anonymous August 10, 2017 8:38 AM  

Are cucks still whining about the Syria thing? A decision hasn't been made till it's been made. Lots of options are seriously considered and in the end only one of them is chosen.

Cerno said that they were seriously discussing boots on the ground. The shitstorm that he created probably helped take that option off the table for Trump. As the base fully rejected it.

I am grateful. I don't buy into "everything is 4D chess" theory. I consider Trump fallible and I want him to know if something is anathema to the base.

Blogger The Z Blog August 10, 2017 9:03 AM  

Some people might be a bit torqued at the way that Mike is doing some things differently now, but you shouldn't be. Men like him and Milo and Jack are playing a very different game than men like Stefan and me. Different rules apply. I don't support Mike because I agree with him on everything, I support him because he's a good man and he is a friend.

This is an important point. I was involved in a discussion about this at AmRen and the important take away was that everyone has a role to play. I don't find Milo interesting in the slightest, but he does bring young people in contact with our thing. That's a service he renders that is not easily replicated. The same is true with Cerno, who is not in our thing, but his interests overlap with our interests.

Life is nothing but compromise and that means working with people you may not like or agree with on most things, in order to achieve a common goal.

Anonymous Andrew E. August 10, 2017 9:19 AM  

Adam Gingrich had been given the word days before announcement that Preibus was out and periscoped about it. Cernovich did not get the scoop on Preibus.

Anonymous Arie C. August 10, 2017 9:20 AM  

But we all agree Richard Spencer, Andrew Andrew Anglin and all the anti-semites are alt-retards, correct?

For me, anti-semitism is a deal breaker.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 10, 2017 9:53 AM  

I think Mike has scored more goals than misses.

I think it was easier during the campaign, because the Clinton crowd was/is so corrupt that if you heard a rumor about them, or could imagine something about them, it was probably true. Would they run a candidate in failing health and try to hide it? Absolutely. Would they surround themselves with pedophiles? Why not? Would they hand over 20% of America's uranium to a foreign power? If the price is right, where do we sign?

Mike's run-with-it style worked very well in that situation. Now things are more complicated. Not everyone in the administration is corrupt now, and there are factions among the corrupt. That's why the McMaster thing is tricky. He was recommended by McCain and seems to love him some war as much as the rest of them, but the Israel-firsters hate him, so.... Looked at from one direction (which I'd guess is how Mike's hearing it from sources), he's just another anti-Trump neocon plant who should be gone yesterday. Looked at from another direction, he's doing things that need to be done that Trump might have difficulty doing himself, and if he's doing it for his own reasons, that's fine as long as Trump knows it and can pull the plug when he's done.

That's a little subtle to just "tweet it out" based on one source, so I think Mike's job is going to be harder if the different factions keep leaking things to him. On the other hand, it looks like there will be plenty more coming out about the Clintons soon, so he should be able to make hay with that.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 10, 2017 9:54 AM  

For me, anti-semitism is a deal breaker.

We'll all make a note.

Anonymous Bowman August 10, 2017 10:19 AM  

Big medias have such arrogance & lack of self awareness...

"A single anonymous source does not typically meet the threshold for publishing news at most media outlets, for starters."
Except that most media outlets actually frequently publish declarations from anonymous agents of public entities.

"And then there was the issue of taking Cernovich seriously at all, given that his earlier work included stuff like a video where a sickly muppet rendering of Clinton collapsed and rose from the dead repeatedly."
Cerno exposed multiple incidents of Clinton's health when nobody was talking about it, THEN Clinton fainted publicly. Only Clinton's sellouts would present that as bad journalism.

"So when Bloomberg View reported the same news on the morning of April 3, citing “U.S. officials familiar with the matter,” it was treated differently — with total legitimacy."
When you lost and still claim the upper hand. "with total legitimacy".

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 10, 2017 10:39 AM  

"A single anonymous source does not typically meet the threshold for publishing news at most media outlets, for starters."

Oh, that must be why Woodward and Bernstein totally ignored that Deep Throat dude.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) August 10, 2017 10:41 AM  

That's why the McMaster thing is tricky. He was recommended by McCain and seems to love him some war as much as the rest of them, but the Israel-firsters hate him, so.... Looked at from one direction (which I'd guess is how Mike's hearing it from sources), he's just another anti-Trump neocon plant who should be gone yesterday. Looked at from another direction, he's doing things that need to be done that Trump might have difficulty doing himself, and if he's doing it for his own reasons, that's fine as long as Trump knows it and can pull the plug when he's done.

Cernovich doesn't like McMaster because he replaced Flynn, who is even more of an insane neocon than McMaster. And Cernovich is either reporting or advocating for Bolton to replace McMaster. Bolton is also more of an insane neocon.

Blogger Flair1239 August 10, 2017 11:24 AM  

Cernovich makes me uncomfortable because I feel he is always shooting an angle. I am also never quite sure where he is at belief wise.

I felt he was as very effective in generating enthusiasm before the election. I find him entertaining and he makes me laugh... sometimes unintentionally. However, I do not trust him.

Blogger Flair1239 August 10, 2017 11:26 AM  

Good way to look at it.

Blogger Jakeithus August 10, 2017 12:08 PM  

Flair1239 wrote:Cernovich makes me uncomfortable because I feel he is always shooting an angle. I am also never quite sure where he is at belief wise.

I felt he was as very effective in generating enthusiasm before the election. I find him entertaining and he makes me laugh... sometimes unintentionally. However, I do not trust him.


That should be true of anyone and everyone who has the potential to be truly impactful however. For me, the commentator who fits that bill is Scott Adams. He's incredible insightful and holds a view about reality that is far more correct than most; however, if you read of listen to him without having some sense of nagging doubt or questioning what his true angle is, then you haven't understood anything that he's said about persuasion or how to influence the narrative.

Anytime Cernovich, Adams, Vox or Trump speak, it's worth thinking about more deeply than just taking it at face value. That's what makes them so good at what they do.

Blogger tuberman August 10, 2017 12:15 PM  

Mike is one of several journalists that I like, but take with a lot of "let's pause here and see how this verifies out."

Blogger tuberman August 10, 2017 12:20 PM  

My thoughts toward Scott is the opposite of Mike, as although I think I would personally like mike, not so with Adams. Dilbert is funny though, so sometimes I listen.

Anonymous Jeff August 10, 2017 12:36 PM  

@29 Andrew E. - Adam Gingrich had been given the word days before announcement that Preibus was out and periscoped about it. Cernovich did not get the scoop on Preibus.

And Adam isn't even in the scoop business. He's in the MAGA business! He is a very dedicated Trump supporter who doesn't have much time for Cerno. He thinks that Cerno is harming Trump with some of his stunts and promotion of White House drama. He also thinks Cerno is being used by certain anti-Trump forces.

Not sure if that's true. I like both of them.

Blogger tuberman August 10, 2017 12:48 PM  

My thoughts on Scott Adams is that he is one of the last of the truly creative snarky Leftists, who uses hypnotism and persuasion ideas to feel superior to most other Leftists (not hard), and almost everyone else.

What I believe his persuasion tropes hides is a general nihilistic relativism behind mostly Leftist thought processes. "There is no objectivity," type thinking, which I myself indulged in when still a blue collar Leftist. Yet that begs the next step of saying there is no "truth" just stories. I'm sure he would disagree and say that's not what he is reporting.

Adams is smarter than me, and I am very smart, but maybe I can dig up a lot of adrenaline and get past my limitations, as I do not care for his take on these things. The way I see it, his views are certainly anti-religious and also undercut Western Civilization.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable August 10, 2017 1:48 PM  

maybe I can dig up a lot of adrenaline and get past my limitations, as I do not care for his take on these things.

Good strategy. I stopped checking him out because I feel the same way, but my energy is currently going into other areas and I'm close to max. Will be happy to read the result of your adrenaline surges.

Blogger Thucydides August 10, 2017 2:27 PM  

@2
I am pretty sure that since November 8th, the Main stream news has pretty much gone from

A single anonymous source does not typically meet the threshold for publishing news at most media outlets, for starters.

To "Fuck it, lets just make shit up and say its from an anonymous source"

*This*

Blogger VD August 10, 2017 4:36 PM  

But we all agree Richard Spencer, Andrew Andrew Anglin and all the anti-semites are alt-retards, correct?

No.

For me, anti-semitism is a deal breaker.

It shouldn't be. People are free to hate anyone they want. If an anti-semite says 2+2=4, that doesn't make the correct answer 5, or purple.

Anonymous Who Rescued Whom? August 10, 2017 7:00 PM  

"A single anonymous source does not typically meet the threshold for publishing news at most media outlets, for starters"

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Oh god, they're still pretending to be Big Serious Journalists with Sources and Rules and Procedures.

Great profile but that had me laughing out loud.

Blogger SirHamster August 10, 2017 7:34 PM  

Jakeithus wrote:Anytime Cernovich, Adams, Vox or Trump speak, it's worth thinking about more deeply than just taking it at face value. That's what makes them so good at what they do.

I do have a bit of unease with both Cernovich and Adams, but I do not for Vox and Trump.

I think it is the shared faith. If they're working for the Boss, I don't need to understand or agree with all they do.

Anonymous Korbin Ransley August 11, 2017 12:41 AM  

Cerno rocks. Besides being brave and brilliant, he's informative, fun to watch, and too big to ignore.

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