Vox Popoli: Riot police called out in Charlottesville

#Charlottesville city officials have declared a local emergency.

Per Pax:

Antifa attacked the rally and the police declared it an unlawful assembly and ordered us to disperse. #UnitetheRight /1

We were prepared to engage in civil disobedience and be arrested. I was on a line with Baked Alaska, Spencer, Damigo, and a few others. /2

The state police refused to arrest us. They assaulted us, knocked our guys down, and pepper sprayed us. /3

The police pushed us into a hostile crowd of antifa. They wanted to create a violent situation. /4

We had to battle our way out, I saw people bleeding and a lot of pepper spray casualties. /5

I think we might have done too much winning last night and they decided we couldn't be allowed to speak today. I await comment from ACLU. /6

I don't understand why the lesson of Berkeley with regards to the police didn't register, but regardless, it should be eminently clear that peaceful protest by the Right will not be permitted.

Labels: #AltRight, decline and fall, NWA was right

320 Comments:

darkestclouds0s August 12, 2017 4:14 PM: FALSE FLAG via black/jew alliance.
Sharrukin August 12, 2017 4:15 PM: 187. Aphelion

we can support an alt-Right philosophy that tells these imbeciles to leave their Nazi shit out of it?

Philosophy? Their economics are wrong? Their religious views?

Are they not morally pure enough for you?

Maybe the Oathcuckers would be a better fit, but good luck preventing them from joining Antifa when things get frisky as they tend to do.
Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2017 4:15 PM: dc.sunsets wrote:Do you reliably know, in advance, how any event will be framed on the moral level?

I don't. Maybe others are just that much more prescient.
MAybe there will be more than one fram. As in, All the old farts will see one image, Noble young people attacking literal Nazis, and young people seeing another image, freaks, Blacks and cops attacking people who are trying to speak up for them.
The MSM is no longer the only game in town.
Aeoli Pera August 12, 2017 4:16 PM: Snidely Whiplash wrote:@Aoeli

You're a far more patient man than I am. Good work, but some, like our Boomer friend above, are almost completely hopeless.

We all have crosses to bear, and my job in all this is pretty easy. You may have some self-control issues but when it comes down to brass tacks you're all right with me, Snidely.
red clock August 12, 2017 4:16 PM: I support white identity and nationalism. But let's be realistic here:

Alt-right can't manage the rallies well, Anti-fa always shows up and there is violence and co-ordinated media campaign scaring people about the 'Nazis!' and 'white terrorism'

Every pblic figure is now denouncing white identity and 'alt-right' and right-wingers. This has emboldened the Left, they are happy. Yes, they are lying and being hyperbolic etc etc. But it doesn't matter. This is a PR disaster for right-wingers.

The lesson is this: Don't hold these useless rallies. When alt-right discusses the issues, online and otherwise, it grows because it has truth on its side.

You won't win a PR battle with the entire establishment media holding these demonstrations, which aren't even held for a specific purpose.
pyrrhus August 12, 2017 4:16 PM: It seems the Mayor and State cops were on very thin ice ordering a demonstration broken up that a Judge had approved.....
Aeoli Pera August 12, 2017 4:20 PM: darkestclouds0s wrote:FALSE FLAG via black/jew alliance.

And now I want Whitey Whiteson III back.
tublecane August 12, 2017 4:20 PM: @196-"It's the photograph"

I see your point. But didn't they have pictures of Fred Hampton back in the day?

"And you wonder why younger people hate Boomers"

I don't think that's a Boomer thing. More of a conservative Boomer thing. The New Left was better at 4G Warfare than the right has demonstrated itself to be this far. We're following their lead, in a lot of ways.

Admittedly, we have nothing like the support they had--open or tacit--in the Establishment.
Unknown August 12, 2017 4:21 PM: /pol/ tracked the car to a wimpy-looking art student who is into rap and soul music. Doesn't exactly seem like a white nationalist. No proof that he's antifa either, so the "passing through and panicked in the swarm" theory is still viable. Or the car could be stolen.
darkestclouds0s August 12, 2017 4:21 PM: Well, the question I have is, what are the root causes?

What did the Left do to make Whites Hate Them?

Also, not all Whites are like that. Actually, it's racist to suggest a racist or anyone white person is indicative of an entire group.

Also, hu-whites, like the ones at this rally, are not part of the Jewish power structure, so they are incapable of being responsible for anything.

Did I cover it all?

FALSE FLAG
dc.sunsets August 12, 2017 4:23 PM: My argument against personally participating in collective action is that you can end up being cannon fodder at the wrong place, wrong time.

No change will occur if social mood stays in today's stratospheric condition. And if social mood has finally begun its long overdue decline, substantive change is still several years off.

In industry, often Firm A goes to market with an innovation first, but Firm B basically knocks off the innovation but tweaks it in a few customer-friendly ways and vaults to dominance.

Who makes it into the history books? Often those who finally succeed in a program others tried, over and over, but whose timing was just off by a little. Being 5 minutes early can be the difference between success & failure, leadership & prison, life & death.

We tend to view too much of history with survivors bias.

Timing is everything. The names of the early birds are lost.
Aeoli Pera August 12, 2017 4:23 PM: pyrrhus wrote:It seems the Mayor and State cops were on very thin ice ordering a demonstration broken up that a Judge had approved.....

There may be potential for a victory there. Worst case is that they rule that it's legal to shut down legal protests...so it's a win for us either way.
Unknown August 12, 2017 4:24 PM: Certainly we can support an alt-Right philosophy that tells these imbeciles to leave their Nazi shit out of it?

Sounds great. Now, how do you plan to keep them out? How are you going to ensure that no one at your alt-Right rally whips out a Nazi flag and starts waving it around after the action gets going, or walks over to a reporter and starts chanting "Hitler was right!"?
Aeoli Pera August 12, 2017 4:24 PM: This comment has been removed by the author.
darkestclouds0s August 12, 2017 4:25 PM: If anyone, particular black or brown, brings this up to me, my answer is always the same narrative...shaking my head "Ya, I dunno...and I just think of the 35,000 white women raped every year by black males...it's like, what is the world coming to?"

Pick your stat, always throw it back. "It's like...you see how many blacks kill, rape and rob whites every year...no wonder people think Christians are phonies"
Aeoli Pera August 12, 2017 4:27 PM: darkestclouds0s wrote:If anyone, particular black or brown, brings this up to me, my answer is always the same narrative...shaking my head "Ya, I dunno...and I just think of the 35,000 white women raped every year by black males...it's like, what is the world coming to?"

Pick your stat, always throw it back. "It's like...you see how many blacks kill, rape and rob whites every year...no wonder people think Christians are phonies"

I was stupid to miss your sarcasm, but I'd advise against doing the antichrist thing around here. I'd really prefer if these folks would support you, so please don't pull that trigger.
Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2017 4:28 PM: red clock wrote:You won't win a PR battle with the entire establishment media holding these demonstrations, which aren't even held for a specific purpose.
Was Berkely a net win or a net loss for the alt-Right? Boulder?
These rallies are held for a specific purpose. The specific purpose is to provoke a reaction.
Have you noticed that every time a rally comes along, it's bigger, more impressive, scarier to the Left, and more violently suppressed than the last one?

Do you know why the US lost in VietNam?
Solas August 12, 2017 4:28 PM: People need to get over the Nazi memes. They're just memes. Those under 30 don't see it as anything but something that triggers people.
tublecane August 12, 2017 4:29 PM: @198-That they won, but not by having a guy like Spencer shot.* Which, don't get me wrong, would be a big boost for the alt-right. I just think its effect on normies would be limited.

*It's debatable whether they achieved certain immediate effects, like the civil rights movement or the end of the Vietnam War. But their mid-range effect was to set the left back. Made them look like a bunch of dirty thugs and helped guys like Nixon and Reagan with the Law and Order plank.

Their long-term victory came through a Long March/convergence strategy, which had them taking over every significant intellectual institution in America. That's not possible for the right, which means we'll require the best New Left PR victories, like Kent State, times a thousand.
dc.sunsets August 12, 2017 4:30 PM: It's not a PR battle. This is the main mistake most people seem to make.

Minds change in the preconscious, not because some Svengali on Madison Avenue came up with a better marketing plan.

If just manipulating what people saw & read in the "news" could maintain a trend forever, we'd be speaking Greek, or Latin, or whatever the Babylonians spoke.

Trends change.
The Leftist lunacy is pretty much already over.

Something new is coming.
Deplorablados August 12, 2017 4:30 PM: Justice for Justine Damond !
A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 12, 2017 4:30 PM: @209
/pol/ tracked the car to a wimpy-looking art student who is into rap and soul music

Nearly in real time. Just as with Moldilocks. That's something the Soros crowd doesn't quite get, they don't get to haz their panopticon Goolag as a private toy, others can play too.

That means there is no anonymity in public places. Not none. Repeat that. No point in playing dressup when weaponized autists can ID from a few images. This evens the game, because before only the derp state had that capability.

We can haz "I See You!" too.

Doesn't exactly seem like a white nationalist. No proof that he's antifa either, so the "passing through and panicked in the swarm" theory is still viable. Or the car could be stolen.

"Passing through and panicked" would fit. Cars are not that easy to steal today, but in the college age group they can be borrowed really easily. Be careful about your social circle and who knows where your car keys are.
Panzer Man August 12, 2017 4:31 PM: Solaire Of Astora wrote:People need to get over the Nazi memes. They're just memes. Those under 30 don't see it as anything but something that triggers people.

People also need to realize that the left is going to call us Nazis no matter what. Quit worrying about what other Alt-Righters are doing and use that energy attacking the leftists.
Aeoli Pera August 12, 2017 4:32 PM: dc.sunsets wrote:My argument against personally participating in collective action is that you can end up being cannon fodder at the wrong place, wrong time.

That is why you fail.

We tend to view too much of history with survivors bias.

Timing is everything. The names of the early birds are lost.

If you aren't willing to jump on a grenade to save your squad, you are worth nothing to me.
Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2017 4:32 PM: dc.sunsets wrote:No change will occur if social mood stays in today's stratospheric condition. And if social mood has finally begun its long overdue decline, substantive change is still several years off.

Social mood is different for different populations. For some, in particular young working-class Whites, it's already well off the peak. For many of the alt-White, the other choice was slow suicide via drug use.
logprof August 12, 2017 4:34 PM: Even Fox News is calling this "White Supremacist."

Idiots.
VD August 12, 2017 4:34 PM: Every pblic figure is now denouncing white identity and 'alt-right' and right-wingers. This has emboldened the Left, they are happy. Yes, they are lying and being hyperbolic etc etc. But it doesn't matter. This is a PR disaster for right-wingers.

As always, most people know nothing about PR, nothing about the media, and cuck at the drop of the hat. Gamers are not dead, neither is the Alt-Right "brand", and there are ALWAYS setbacks in every endeavor that requires more than five minutes.

What part of "none of this matters" do you not understand? The historical trends will sweep all of this before it. Diversity + Proximity = War. Thus has it always been. Thus shall it always be.

Stop pretending to be media experts. No matter what happens, good or bad, the next media cycle will obliterate it.
tublecane August 12, 2017 4:36 PM: @220-This is a confusing post. "PR" is of course a buzzphrase, but what does it mean? Public relations. Are public relations suddenly not important? What game are we playing, the physical overthrow of the PC order? No. We're playing populism. That *is* about public relations, because the public still gets to decide certain things in our polity.

No trend last forever, but I don't see your point. If people stop speaking Greek, put your propaganda out in a different language.
Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2017 4:38 PM: How much effect did this picture have on the Vietnam war?
dc.sunsets August 12, 2017 4:39 PM: Aeoli, condescension is rather unbecoming.
Aeoli Pera August 12, 2017 4:40 PM: Somebody keep the cucks on notice in here, I have to go do internet church with Koanic and friends on Skype.
Sharrukin August 12, 2017 4:40 PM: 228. tublecane

What game are we playing, the physical overthrow of the PC order? No.

Actually...yes.

The physical overthrow of the PC order is the game because they aren't going peacefully.
darkestclouds0s August 12, 2017 4:45 PM: What caused someone to ram their car through a crowd? What were the "root causes"...

No one should cede so much as a centimeter of moral high ground on ANYthing Alt-right, always, ALWAYS throw it back in their faces, and amplify the argument to something larger, esp ecially when in a larger group of folks who include fence-sitters.

"it's crazy what happened this weekend, with your little republican buddies...the whole car plowing into the crowd" says the fat white women.

"republican? republicans would not have the BALLS to fight black racists and their sympathyzers like that, pretty sure that was Alt-right defending us...(shaking head), you figure the thousands of whites attacked every year would finally lead to SOMETHING LIKE THIS...

...do you know where the sugar is kept here in the breakroom?"
DonReynolds August 12, 2017 4:46 PM: Max Saberon wrote:Fine. Let them take down the statue(s). What use will they of them. Acquire the statue(s) and resurrect it/them on private property. They would be kind of like an outdoor museum representing a composite of Southern history.

Maybe you did not notice.
The Leftist militants are not satisfied with Confederate statues and monuments. They are even taking down the statue of General Andrew Jackson, the "Savior of New Orleans" IN New Orleans.
Nor are they satisfied with statues and monuments on public property. They are demanding the removal of ALL things Confederate from private property as well.
dc.sunsets August 12, 2017 4:47 PM: If you aren't willing to jump on a grenade to save your squad, you are worth nothing to me.

The future belongs exclusively to those who show up for it.

It's beyond clear that you don't understand my position and are either escalated and can't process it or simply begin with too foreign premises.

Your squad/grenade metaphor belies your own 4GW focus. Armies neither stop an idea whose time has come nor compel an idea whose time is not yet ripe.

But like I said, conflicting premises make for useless dialogue.
Avenge Harambe August 12, 2017 4:48 PM: Whitey wrote:
The P(Alt)ry Right

That's typical gamma snark masquerading as wit... very feminine.
Stg58/Animal Mother August 12, 2017 4:48 PM: Snidely Whiplash wrote:dc.sunsets wrote:No change will occur if social mood stays in today's stratospheric condition. And if social mood has finally begun its long overdue decline, substantive change is still several years off.

Social mood is different for different populations. For some, in particular young working-class Whites, it's already well off the peak. For many of the alt-White, the other choice was slow suicide via drug use.

Not just white working class, but white collar professionals whose blood runs cold and Saxon.
tublecane August 12, 2017 4:50 PM: @232-That may become the game eventually, but we're certainly not playing it yet.
Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2017 4:52 PM: @dc.sunsets
Check your watch.
Sharrukin August 12, 2017 4:52 PM: I will point out something that some may have missed.

RACE RIOTS.

Race riots with whites involved as something other than victims.

That is a sea change in mindset.
Anonymous August 12, 2017 5:01 PM: Confirmation coming in now:
driver was a leftist nevertrumper
http://imgur.com/a/vjTKH
DissidentRight August 12, 2017 5:01 PM: My argument against personally participating in collective action is that you can end up being cannon fodder at the wrong place, wrong time.

[...] Timing is everything. The names of the early birds are lost.

A lot of early birds were in the wrong place at the wrong time at D-Day. Maybe it was necessary to turn them into cannon fodder. Maybe not.

We have no idea if peaceful Alt-Right rallies are necessary or unnecessary for the culture war. Maybe Trump and his successors will singlehandedly turn the tide themselves. Or maybe these rallies are an indispensable building block to future events we can't fully anticipate.

At the very least, they build our morale and force the enemy to play their hand on camera. And none of our guys have gotten seriously injured. If you don't have a lot of assets or reputation to lose, and your life isn't on the line, why not go ahead...?
Unknown August 12, 2017 5:12 PM: If anyone doesn't like Trump's condemnation of violence on all sides, check out Jeb Bush on Twitter: "The white supremacists and their bigotry do not represent our great country. All Americans should condemn this vile hatred."

Not a word about Antifa, BLM, La Raza, or other left-wing groups who regularly engage in violence and may very well have caused this. No waiting for the facts before leaping to judgment. The media says a white right-winger did something bad, so he has to try to leap out in front of the virtue-signaling parade.

The perfect cuckservative/moderate. Always ready to be understanding to the left, and to shoot to the right.
Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2017 5:13 PM: I cannot get past the fact that the Charlottesville municipality created this shit show. Sorry party people but, in my opinion, all this falls squarely in their laps.
Wormwood August 12, 2017 5:13 PM: 10. Cail Corishev August 12, 2017 1:33 PM

If you want to know what the cops will do, look at who's giving them their orders.

Exactly, and that is why states that have shut down Antifa didn't have a Democrat Governor. It should be assumed that any state where the executive is a Democrat that Antifa will be free to act.
Whitey August 12, 2017 5:14 PM: Watching the videos of Charlottesville. All the white guy's hit like little girls. Funny.
Wormwood August 12, 2017 5:18 PM: Whitey wrote:Watching the videos of Charlottesville. All the white guy's hit like little girls. Funny.

LOL, well at least they fight two handed, instead of having to hold their pants up with one hand and fight with the other. By the way, I do recommend watching some of the youtube videos of fights at basketball games, they are a hoot.
MichaelJMaier August 12, 2017 5:21 PM: logprof wrote:Even Fox News is calling this "White Supremacist."

Idiots.

That might be a telling blow... if anyone here was actually dumb enough to think (((FAUX NEWS))) is on the Alt-Right side of history.
Grinder August 12, 2017 5:21 PM: As I said before Trump's election victory I still say we move things forward by triggering non-whites into having chimpouts and being prepared for when nigs, spics et.al. do as they will. There is no good verbal retort when someone points out that you are black or brown, stupid, ugly, and prone to petty crime and violence. Call me "racist"? I laugh. I am disappointed by Trump's predictable remarks that can be interpreted to mean anything. I recall even Barack Obama publicly and clearly stated that you cannot just attack people for not holding the same views as you do. I cannot recall exactly when but his intended audience was his supporters. Trump being comparably supportive of people expressing dissenting or unpopular views would be nice but is not necessary because politician speeches can't stop whites like me from expressing our opinions.
Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2017 5:23 PM: @246 I've been reading your commentaries and I've concluded that you're an idiot. My characterization of you is not rash. It's a sober and cautious description. It's rare when I form these conclusions because, well, I don't want to be reckless. You have removed any and all doubt about my conclusions. There must be, at the very least, several paragraphs about folks like you in the DSM.
Whitey Whiteman III August 12, 2017 5:24 PM: >Confirmation coming in now:

/pol/ may have jumped the gun. That Joel dude just facebooked saying it wasn't him.

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/137130888
drudgeSENTmeHere August 12, 2017 5:25 PM: In case anyone hasn't noticed, other than actual athletes (and even that is quesitonable), the whole paradigm of black males being "tough" has been completely obliterated. Not only does a small minority on the planet (white men), stand LARGELY OVER-REPRESENTED in combat sports (boxing and MMA) and strength sports (powerlifting and strongman), cell phone vids have made it mainstream to see black males fighting like pussies, either personally or in groups.

Someone watched some 1991 movies and thought everything was Compton. Never confuse people going about their work day, avoid conflict over minor inconveniences (white men on subways, etc)...with a people being backed into a corner--facing extermination.

Whites are going to start rioting more--this is just the beginning.
MichaelJMaier August 12, 2017 5:26 PM: Man... I sure hope I'm not sipping beer when they confirm a NEVER-TRUMPer ran over ANTIFA.

I hate wasting beer spitting it all over my desk.
Whitey August 12, 2017 5:27 PM: You're a butthead, Al
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Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2017 5:32 PM: @254 Dude, I'm being very fair and cautious. Don't be upset. Please don't take my conclusions lightly. It's quite possible that you need help. At the very least, give some consideration to the things I've said. Get help.
JD Curtis August 12, 2017 5:34 PM: Driver of the car is a stoner, open borders lovin' Trump hater. Link
Stg58/Animal Mother August 12, 2017 5:38 PM: Hey there Cucks. You're on notice.
Unknown August 12, 2017 5:38 PM: Yep, it looks like the family sold the car a few years ago, and for some reason it's still comes up as registered to them.

The cops are supposed to have someone in custody. No info on him yet, which makes me think he's not a "white supremacist." Also, a reporter said the cops think it wasn't intentional, but a panic thing.
Whitey Whiteman III August 12, 2017 5:39 PM: So, apparently, a helicopter has crashed in Charlottesville.

https://twitter.com/Simon_Rader/status/896482477170143234

This timeline is best timeline
Stg58/Animal Mother August 12, 2017 5:40 PM: License plate and VIN match up to Vangheluwe.
Whitey Whiteman III August 12, 2017 5:40 PM: Police helicopter
Bob August 12, 2017 5:41 PM: Now we know why Red Ice had to be muzzled.
Wormwood August 12, 2017 5:42 PM: Cail Corishev wrote:
Also, a reporter said the cops think it wasn't intentional, but a panic thing.

If it was a v8 then I'm sure they mistook him for a Trump supporter, and thus his life was at risk.
gxg August 12, 2017 5:47 PM: So, apparently, a helicopter has crashed in Charlottesville.

Comment on the twitter feed: You're not supposed to drop the entire helicopter. Just the communists...
Stg58/Animal Mother August 12, 2017 5:50 PM: Saw that ultimate savagery. Beautiful.
Whitey August 12, 2017 5:55 PM: Al, I love you man, but you're still a butthead.
Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2017 5:56 PM: Hey @Whitey, we can't understand you with your Mamma's c**k in your mouth.
Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2017 5:57 PM: @267 love has nothing to do with this. I'm dead serious dude. Remember that track by Das Efx? "Check Yo Self"?
Whitey August 12, 2017 6:15 PM: This blog is too annoying when the comments exceed 200; see ya on another thread, buttheads.
Anonymous White Male August 12, 2017 6:18 PM: red clock wrote:Alt-right can't manage the rallies well, Anti-fa always shows up and there is violence and co-ordinated media campaign scaring people about the 'Nazis!' and 'white terrorism'

This is a PR disaster for right-wingers.

The lesson is this: Don't hold these useless rallies. When alt-right discusses the issues, online and otherwise, it grows because it has truth on its side.

You won't win a PR battle with the entire establishment media holding these demonstrations, which aren't even held for a specific purpose.

If "Anti-Fa always shows up and there is violence and co-ordinated media campaign scaring people about the 'Nazis!' and 'white terrorism'", then many White people will notice. Haven't you seen that more and more Whites are ignoring the labels Nazi and White terrorism because they have become a meaningless cliche overused by the left? Haven't you seen that Whites no longer trust "media campaigns" since they realize the MSM is our enemy? You are living in the past. Don't fight the current war with the previous war's weapons. It sounds like you are basically a keyboard warrior that never leaves your house. You do know that there is more leftist propaganda out there than alt-right? You seem to hold the conflicting views that somehow you can win the internet war with "truth" and lose the media PR war with "truth". Besides, faith without works is dead. The war is happening. If we don't show up we will definitely lose.
Anonymous August 12, 2017 6:28 PM: People who went to simple Trump For President events were attacked, including, in Chicago, by police who deliberately herded Trump supporters into a parking garage filled with antifa looking for blood.

The wisdom of this rally is debatable. Arguing that it caused violence is a nonsense MSM narrative that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
johnc August 12, 2017 6:35 PM: @272

Exactly. I'm not seeing the point of being the left's punching bag, and engaging according to the left's rule book. But I understand different people have different perspectives.
Al From Bay Shore August 12, 2017 6:39 PM: @270 "This blog is too annoying when the comments exceed 200; see ya on another thread, buttheads."

Allow me to make a correction. I think you meant "This blog is too annoying when the comments exceed 269; see ya on another thread, buttheads."

That's infinitely more accurate.
Simplytimothy August 12, 2017 7:33 PM: It's not our government.They are not our people
Unknown August 12, 2017 7:34 PM: White Democrats are quickly / have lost control of the beast they created. Full KEK at link -> http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/08/12/stacey-evans-gets-rocky-reception-at-netroots-conference/
True Conservative August 12, 2017 7:40 PM: The same media that lied, lied, lied about the Google memo is totally telling the truth about Charlottesville guys
Simplytimothy August 12, 2017 7:42 PM: You are starting to squeak and sweat. I like that
Ezekiel August 12, 2017 7:49 PM: http://time.com/4898351/helicopter-crashes-near-white-nationalist-rally-in-charlottesville/

They're blaming us for this too, of course.

Which... maybe they should. Going after the alt-right is one thing, but maybe the Commonwealth should have thought twice about making itself an enemy of Kek.
Simplytimothy August 12, 2017 7:49 PM: It's our team in meatspace. Identity > Culture > politics.

My side, the decent American side, is being attacked for being.
Simplytimothy August 12, 2017 7:51 PM: Leave Paultry Ryan out if this.
Mr. Rational August 12, 2017 7:58 PM: Michael Maier wrote:And the pigs? Well... I'm sure no one wants to discuss that on a public forum.
Weaponized autism would have no trouble uncovering everything about them, and making them envy Darren Wilson. Once word of that starts getting around, "blue flu" will neutralize the cops as weapons of the left.
Unknown August 12, 2017 8:15 PM: They're blaming us for [the helicopter crash] too, of course.

I had to laugh at a headline on /pol/:
THE ALT-RIGHT JUST SHOT DOWN A FUCKING HELICOPTER IN CVILLE
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IM NOT READY FOR DAY OF ROPE
Dinah Eigen Turner August 12, 2017 8:20 PM: Start a civil war if you want. You guys are going to get buried if you do.
mapster68 August 12, 2017 8:20 PM: Lads, peaceful protest will not be permitted, that is why we must continue! Hail Victory!
OGRE August 12, 2017 9:14 PM: Whitey wrote:This blog is too annoying when the comments exceed 200; see ya on another thread, buttheads.

hahaha i can make out your lisp through the internet, nerd
Avalanche August 12, 2017 9:29 PM: @58 "Why is it always the job of Omegas and autistics to haul normie asses out of the fire?"

Because they (you?) do it SO WELL!
Avalanche August 12, 2017 10:11 PM: @75 ""We discovered that they had bombs (which we expect to locate any moment now)"

Hey, it worked great to get us into Iraq a decade+ ago... Gotta love them weapons of mass destruction.
Avalanche August 12, 2017 10:14 PM: @87 "the user has to keep tweaking it to try to find a version that stings."

Is it funny or just sad when his attempts don't even cause an eye roll, much less a chuckle?
m August 12, 2017 10:23 PM: Charlottesville Police have officially named James Alex Fields, Jr., 20, of Ohio as the suspected driver in today's attack in Charlottesville, Va. Fields was booked into the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail on Saturday on suspicion of second-degree murder.
Avalanche August 12, 2017 10:24 PM: @103 "could have told Spencer he wouldn't get any support from police and or the city government. He and the other leadership clearly thought otherwise."

You missed the point. (Or "a" point.)

Did you see the Periscope of him (or so the vid said) talking to the riot cops as they marched past, all dressed up like (black-garbed) Storm Troopers? Pointing out "we HAVE a permit. Why aren't you protecting us? Why are you allowing this? Why are you not upholding the LAW?"

The point is NOT that he (or whoever it was)(or anyone!) will actually change the minds of the Storm Troopers; it is the shock value normie viewers get hit with from seeing them 'storming' past, and hearing that they were ignoring permit holders and allowing violence.

NEVER forget there is an audience!

Winning is not (just or mainly) about beating down antifa and BLM... it's about SHOWING normies (who, being primates, will HAVE to look at the commotion, to see what's going on) a sight they've only ever seen before in movies! And the Storm Troopers were NOT the good guys! (Great optics!)
HarambeGalt August 12, 2017 10:28 PM: Constitutional Warrior Scholar wrote:
"BREAKING: Charolettesville mayor says one person dead after car slams into counter-protesters of white nationalists. - ABC"

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW YOU NAZI ASSHOLES!!!!

pyrrhus wrote:
Literally crying right now. Tears of joy, that the world has one less communist in it. The sun is so bright right now!

Every time a Commie gets his horns, a Pepe gets his keks?
dfordoom August 12, 2017 10:29 PM: 16. Michael Maier

The men of Lexington in April 1775 felt pushed into a corner, too.

And they kicked the ass of the most powerful military on the planet.

The British were a long long way from being the most powerful military on the planet. They were a second-rank military power. And they were beaten by the French (who were a first-rank military power) along with American regulars. The militia were useless.
Lazarus August 12, 2017 11:11 PM: m wrote:Charlottesville Police have officially named James Alex Fields, Jr., 20, of Ohio as the suspected driver in today's attack in Charlottesville, Va. Fields was booked into the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail on Saturday on suspicion of second-degree murder.

They hacked his car, dude.

Prove they did not.
Lazarus August 12, 2017 11:13 PM: dfordoom wrote:The British were a long long way from being the most powerful military on the planet.

They beat the Zulus.

How did YOU do against the Zulus, smart guy?
Anonymous August 12, 2017 11:27 PM: Remember, the leftist media elites are convinced that ordinary Americans are idiots who allow themselves to be led around by feelz. The longer they hold this view, the more people will be inoculated from their fake worldview.
Lazarus August 12, 2017 11:30 PM: red clock wrote:Alt-right can't manage the rallies well, Anti-fa always shows up and there is violence and co-ordinated media campaign scaring people about the 'Nazis!' and 'white terrorism'

Islam is a religion of Peace. The "Jihadists are not real Islam" ploy is a tactic. But they help to move forward the goals of the Religion of Peace. If they need killin" to be useful, they get killed. If they need support to be useful, they get support.

Learn from the experts. The Alt-Right is ultimately a peace movement. Globalism is conflict oriented anti-state chaos generator designe to weaken opposition.

Peace, order, and good government are rooted in respect for cultural and tribal customs and boundaries.

This is 4G wisdom.
Lazarus August 12, 2017 11:32 PM: Good fences make good neighbors. It is as simple as that. That is why (white) people say things like that.
dfordoom August 12, 2017 11:33 PM: @60. owlish

So, if a significant number of cops are in it for the pension, what happens when pensions vanish? Or at least are drastically cut back?

No matter how broke governments are they'll make sure the police get paid and that their pensions are safe. They might cut pensions for firefighters and people like that, but not the police. The police are what stand between governments and the people. They exist to protect government from the people. No government would be silly enough to antagonise the cops.
Lazarus August 12, 2017 11:41 PM: dfordoom wrote:They might cut pensions for firefighters and people like that,

Do you know how many cities in the dim past without proper firefighters have been devastated?

I think you need to put them firefighters back in the loop.
dfordoom August 13, 2017 12:20 AM: @295. Lazarus

They beat the Zulus.

Yes, they achieved many glorious triumphs against guys in grass skirts armed with spears.

My point was that the Revolutionary War was not won by disorganised mobs of brave noble patriots. It was regular warfare, not guerrilla warfare, and it was won by Prussian-trained regulars and French regulars. And by a surprisingly efficient French Navy.

I don't think it's a good parallel with the situation today. You guys won because you had assistance from outside, from a major power.

The American militia were well-meaning and did their best but they couldn't stand in the field against regulars. If the militia were all you had then you'd still be part of the British Empire.
Brad Matthews August 13, 2017 12:31 AM: This is the point at which it moved offline into real action. There will be more rallies with more people and more resistance. Whatever form it takes and whatever the response, it was inevitable
Dirk Manly August 13, 2017 12:55 AM: National Guard combat arms units are overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly anti-antics and bleah about police who mass-trample the rights of whites sticking up for their rights.
Were-Puppy August 13, 2017 12:59 AM: @283 Cail Corishev
They're blaming us for [the helicopter crash] too, of course.

I had to laugh at a headline on /pol/:
THE ALT-RIGHT JUST SHOT DOWN A FUCKING HELICOPTER IN CVILLE
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IM NOT READY FOR DAY OF ROPE
----

That's what I thought when I first heard about it. Saw a graphic with Sam Hyde and an RPG running from the flaming wreckage!
Mr. Rational August 13, 2017 1:03 AM: Avalanche wrote:And you hope to get JUSTICE in the "just-us" system, do you? You think violating the converged "blue-line" will somehow be found legal?
No. I think doxxing the members of the Converged Blue Line and making certain that neither they nor any member of their families is ever safe again will get them to quit or at least sick-out before they do anything like this. Their nightmare must be Darren Wilson times a thousand.
Sharrukin August 13, 2017 1:23 AM: 293. dfordoom

The militia were useless.

Revisionist nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

In South Carolina, fighting broke out on November 19 between Loyalist and Patriot militias,[127] and the Loyalists were subsequently driven out of the colony.[128] Loyalists recruited in North Carolina to reassert colonial rule in the South were decisively defeated, subduing Loyalist sentiment.[129] An expedition of British regulars to reconquer South Carolina launched a failed attack on Charleston on June 28, 1776,[130] effectively leaving the South in Patriot control until 1780.

the British had to fight their way north into North Carolina and Virginia, with a severely weakened army. Behind them, much of the territory that they had already captured dissolved into a chaotic guerrilla war, fought predominantly between bands of Loyalist and American militia, which negated many of the gains that the British had previously made.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

Clinton returned to New York, leaving Charles Cornwallis in command in Charleston to oversee the southern war effort. In the interim, the war was carried on by Patriot militias, whom effectively suppressed Loyalists by winning victories in Fairfield County,[372] Lincolnton,[373] York County,[374] Stanly County,[375] and Lancaster County.

This is the same nonsense that leads people to claim the longbow didn't win the battle of Agincourt. It's a cheap way to get noticed.

The militia weren't going to win a victory against the British army in the field alone but they were essential to victory.

BTW, the French levee en masse was a militia and they were rather helpful.

And the Boers only had a militia but they were able to force the British to dedicate 600,000 troops to take on 50,000 militia for nearly three years?

Useless?

Hardly.
Laz August 13, 2017 1:30 AM: "So, if a significant number of cops are in it for the pension, what happens when pensions vanish? Or at least are drastically cut back?"

You get places like Democrat run Dallas, where they're short 1200 positions because they emptied the retirement fund.I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it.
GB August 13, 2017 2:23 AM: I'm guessing the left will start demanding cars be banned from future rallies.

When are people going to learn? You are only allowed to protest for things the government already plans to do.

Stop telling the enemy your plans. Stop applying for "assembly permits." Stop paying "security fees." Stop trying to plead the media to tell the story fairly. Just quit it. It's not going to happen. They hate you and have no intention of playing fair. Plan accordingly.

Do flash rallies. Don't tell anyone, just do it. They're going to arrest you anyway, might as well not give them the intel. Don't help them organize against you. Don't disarm yourselves. Don't give the enemy that advantage. Arm up and prepare to use them. Self defense is your only defense.
Scott August 13, 2017 4:31 AM: Somebody on Twitter suggested it would have been better to be fit and well-dressed, sweeping streets and cleaning local business windows while singing Frank Sinatra. I think that is a good idea.
meh August 13, 2017 4:54 AM: An alt-right rally with fewer than three helicopter crashes is considered a dull affair.
Aeoli Pera August 13, 2017 5:40 AM: Scott Birch wrote:Somebody on Twitter suggested it would have been better to be fit and well-dressed, sweeping streets and cleaning local business windows while singing Frank Sinatra. I think that is a good idea.

It is, in addition to the violent rallies. It's better to be feared than loved, if you have to choose, but obviously the best case is both. Apply to women, children, and normies.
Panzer Man August 13, 2017 7:06 AM: Scott Birch wrote:Somebody on Twitter suggested it would have been better to be fit and well-dressed, sweeping streets and cleaning local business windows while singing Frank Sinatra. I think that is a good idea.

Most of them were fit and well-dressed. And it wasn't violent until the police and Antifa attacked a gathering of Americans attempting to peacefully make some speeches.

Are you now parroting the stupid hostile narrative of the Fake News? Come on, guys.
Patriotic Canadian August 13, 2017 9:07 AM: Not really. Typically leftists are reduced to name calling in debates and only win any fight when the odds are 100 to plus police and political support
BBGKB August 13, 2017 9:35 AM: OMG shitlibs blaming Affirmative Action govt employee helicopter maintenance that killed 2 cops on white people

In totally unrelated news I have to reshoot my video from yesterday on how to start a fire with just a Fresnel lens, mirror, laser pointer & a koran
AM August 13, 2017 11:13 AM: @143 143 "ARE YOU HAPPY NOW YOU NAZI ASSHOLES!!!!"

Food for thought: Constitutional Warrior Scholar is neither constitutional, nor a warrior, nor a scholar. Discuss!

Get a grip man; nobody has any worse an opinion of White Nationalists today, than they did two days ago. And some were probably shocked by the creepy unanimity of the mendacious press, and may have learned something about it from alternate sources. Have you not realized that they already called us NAZIs and hated us? We have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.
Gen. Kong August 13, 2017 12:27 PM: National Guard combat arms units are overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly anti-antics and bleah about police who mass-trample the rights of whites sticking up for their rights.

Uh-huh. Just the the OK National Guard (mostly white) who obeyed a lawless order from the Dindu Cheeph of Pohleece in New Orleans in Katrina's wake to confiscate the weapons of white homeowners in one of the less depraved sections of the city. They could have said no and arrested the Cheeph, who was nothing more than a criminal with a fancy badge.
Avalanche August 13, 2017 1:04 PM: OMG! Is this not the same guy?!?

http://imgur.com/gallery/pPMLz

https://ir.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/4-1-10.jpg

https://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8772-richard-spencer-threat-or-menace/page__st__1300#entry373974
dfordoom August 13, 2017 7:05 PM: @316. Gen. Kong

Uh-huh. Just the the OK National Guard (mostly white) who obeyed a lawless order from the Dindu Cheeph of Pohleece in New Orleans in Katrina's wake to confiscate the weapons of white homeowners

You'll never persuade a cuck to give up worshipping anything in a uniform. It's a kind of fetish they have. They instinctively grovel to a uniform.
Luke August 13, 2017 11:37 PM: Re #299 and firefighter pensions:
I know someone who is a firemen in an inner suburb of Atlanta. The vast majority of firemen there (and ALL of the ones hired in ~the last 15 years) have NO defined benefit pensions, only (at best) the usual near-worthless 401K-type "pretend" pensions.
Avalanche August 14, 2017 7:59 AM: @305 (quoted me:) "And you hope to get JUSTICE in the "just-us" system, do you? You think violating the converged "blue-line" will somehow be found legal?
(answered:)
No. I think doxxing the members of the Converged Blue Line and making certain that neither they nor any member of their families is ever safe again will get them to quit or at least sick-out before they do anything like this. Their nightmare must be Darren Wilson times a thousand."

Oh, well now, THAT I can support... You were writing about "unlimited immunity," which is a legal concept. I was wondering if there was any point to go talk to my local police guys (not "the force," the guys) and see if they had any concept of American history and the principles this country was founded on.... AND what they thought about "blue flu" when asked to 'beat down' (or not protect) white folks trying to save the country...

I suppose, for many, it's too much fun to dress up like Power Rangers and strengthen their own 'us vs. them' feelings... Too bad.

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