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Monday, September 11, 2017

Build the Wall already

Steve Bannon addresses Trump's low approval ratings. The president's former chief strategist says once Trump builds the wall, his approval ratings will go up, and he'll go on to a 2020 landslide.

Bannon is correct, but he is only stating the obvious. I have been saying this since before the Inauguration. To ensure reelection, Donald Trump needs to do one thing, and one thing only: BUILD THE WALL.

Everything else is irrelevant in comparison. Build the Wall and win handsomely, fail to build it and risk losing.

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101 Comments:

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 11, 2017 4:44 AM  

What could possibly be stopping him?

Blogger Miguel September 11, 2017 4:58 AM  

No wonder the Deep State hates Bannon.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 11, 2017 4:59 AM  

@1 Laramie Hirsch

The Swamp is going to try to prevent full funding by whatever means necessary. So Trump has some plan for that. Even if it requires putting Paul Ryan's balls in a vice. (On the assumption you can find them.)

The 4 concrete models were approved for test builds; 4 non-concrete will be announced sometime in September. The border is so long and over so much terrain, that different sections will need different approaches. (Also, the wall will be double-layered.)

Rather than getting funding via "bargaining chips", I expect Trump to do it via insane amounts of leverage. Considering the first 2 of 6 rounds of NAFTA talks have gone terribly, expect any sort of trade deals to be what the Swamp has to accept for the Wall.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable September 11, 2017 5:02 AM  

Even if it requires putting Paul Ryan's balls in a vice. (On the assumption you can find them.)

First you'd have to get them back from the globalists.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera September 11, 2017 5:12 AM  

Build it.

Blogger Anno Ruse September 11, 2017 5:17 AM  

@3 "Mexico will pay for it" seems more and more likely as the NAFTA talks show how much power we have. Mexico wants a trade deal at all? Fund the wall. Trump seems to be working this from both ends, pressuring both Congress and Mexico for the same thing.

I don't doubt we'll get a wall, question is how long it'll take. Really needs to be started with lots of big visuals soon. Build one beautiful section and hold a presser in front of it or something. The inevitable protests and sabotage by leftists will only make Trump more popular.

Anonymous dr kill September 11, 2017 5:19 AM  

When you're right, you're right. You are right.

Blogger John timken September 11, 2017 5:22 AM  

Be patient. If he'd started building the wall on day one Boobus Americanus would have forgotten about it as an issue after a few years. If he waits until nearer the next presidential election he will maximise electoral impact.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera September 11, 2017 5:39 AM  

No patience. Build it.

Anonymous --generic September 11, 2017 5:40 AM  

No matter how much gets built, media will focus on parts that didn't get built. Message will go out strong that Trump failed. (Undertone-- he never intended to do this and sold out his voters).

Blogger Elder Son September 11, 2017 5:41 AM  

How could one forget? It's not going to go up over night. He starts soon, and he can show the booboisie THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL going up as he re-elections. He waits to long, without any results before the election, it just becomes ear-candy.

Blogger Elder Son September 11, 2017 5:45 AM  

@10 - No matter how much gets built...

A mile before the election is just faking it. He need to put up a significant amount of wall before the election.

Blogger WK September 11, 2017 5:49 AM  

GOPe tried to stop the Wall with the 2 year/Harvey funding extension. DJT blew that up with the 90 day bill. Expect showdown when that runs out. Wall funding will reveal who is on side of donors and who is on the side of the people.

Blogger Savage Henry September 11, 2017 6:00 AM  

Do you advocate a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas with a physical wall rhetorically sufficient? (Ie the Scott Adams wall)

Blogger Lovekraft September 11, 2017 6:01 AM  

What would be even better is naming it the "ObamaWall". Since he's the one who essentially forced its construction.

Blogger JACIII September 11, 2017 6:09 AM  

Trump has GOPe really upset over the wall. They must have a cushier racket going than everyone thought 'cause man they are sure married to it.

Anonymous Panzer Man September 11, 2017 6:16 AM  

He needs to build it. Period. None of this "teasing and waiting until closer to the election." By that point, he'll have waited too long and people will view it as too little, too late.

He's probably risking losing at lot of his base right now. I'm trying my damnedest to keep rooting for the guy, I've even sent him a few donations when I could spare the coin. But the frustration of no tangible sign of the promise being fulfilled is wearing away my ability to remain optimistic. It's starting to resemble "the fierce vexation of a dream, and fruitless vision" as Shakespeare put it.

Build the Wall, Mr. Trump. As the Russians say, "Muzhik skazhet, muzhik delat" -- "A man says, a man does." Or in other words, don't be all talk and no action. It's worse than never having made the promises at all.

Blogger Stilicho September 11, 2017 6:37 AM  

Dude, where's my wall?

Build it, or they will come.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer September 11, 2017 6:54 AM  

ut the frustration of no tangible sign of the promise being fulfilled is wearing away my ability to remain optimistic.

For me, that alone isn't a problem. I understand it is a big task and it has only been 8 months with lots of other issues popping up. What gives me pause is that he has surrounded himself with people who actively don't want the wall built. Not showing enough progress and giving people who oppose the wall key positions makes for really poor optics.

Blogger Critical G September 11, 2017 6:59 AM  

I don't bother speculating on why it doesn't seem to be getting built: either it will or it won't. @VD is right, it's the crucial issue, for which I hope and pray.

Blogger Phillip George September 11, 2017 7:07 AM  

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Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot September 11, 2017 7:08 AM  

BAKE THE CAKE INTO THE WALL :-)

Blogger Ken Prescott September 11, 2017 7:19 AM  

Savage Henry wrote:Do you advocate a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas with a physical wall rhetorically sufficient? (Ie the Scott Adams wall)

Embrace the power of "and."

An entirely physical wall AND tighter immigration, border surveillance/enforcement is even better than just an entirely physical wall.

Blogger Lazarus September 11, 2017 7:23 AM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:What gives me pause is that he has surrounded himself with people who actively don't want the wall built. Not showing enough progress and giving people who oppose the wall key positions makes for really poor optics.

"In the 48 hours after we won, there's a fundamental decision that was made. You might call it the original sin of the administration. We embraced the establishment. I mean, we totally embraced the establishment ... Because ya had to staff a government."

_ Steve Bannon on 60 minutes

Bit of a conundrum, yes? Have to hire swamp creatures to drain the swamp.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore September 11, 2017 7:28 AM  

Build that wall. Boundaries should not only be words on parchment, they should also be structural.

Blogger VD September 11, 2017 7:33 AM  

Do you advocate a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas with a physical wall rhetorically sufficient? (Ie the Scott Adams wall)

Entirely physical. For a start. Because symbolism matters.

Blogger wreckage September 11, 2017 7:50 AM  

I think he'll get it done, and it's win win. They delay him, he gets it started closer to the election. They fold to him and he gets it underway and gets knock-on effects by the election.

He's going to build it; but the psychological effect of *beginning it* will be historical in scope. People want it, they crave it, having it partly done will only sharpen their appetite.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 11, 2017 8:00 AM  

VD wrote:Do you advocate a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas with a physical wall rhetorically sufficient? (Ie the Scott Adams wall)

Entirely physical. For a start. Because symbolism matters.


^This. You can't communicate ideas across all demographics, but you can communicate aesthetics across all demographics.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 11, 2017 8:10 AM  

When this overlong rally ends, the wall will build itself as a physical manifestation of growing distrust.

That, or people will buy out all of Home Depot's bags of mortar & bricks and spontaneously build the damned wall themselves, even if they have to include Paul Ryan's & all the other GOP cucks in the foundation.

Blogger Bubba September 11, 2017 8:21 AM  

Heck, building a wall worked for Sharon and Netanyahu. It will do wonders for Trump.

Anonymous Avalanche September 11, 2017 8:28 AM  

@9 "Anticipation" is pleasurable before GOOD things; it is NOT pleasurable before stopping BAD things!!

Anticipation before ice cream (or sex) is pleasurable. Anticipation before getting a truck off your foot does NOT make you think kindly of the guy not putting the truck IN GEAR!

GET IT IN GEAR!!

Blogger James Dixon September 11, 2017 8:36 AM  

> Do you advocate a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas with a physical wall rhetorically sufficient?

That's a sufficient starting point, as building a complete wall takes time. The long term goal must be a complete physical wall though.

Anonymous Avalanche September 11, 2017 8:39 AM  

@14 a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas with a physical wall rhetorically sufficient?

Absolutely not! When they built the wall below ... San Diego ... was it, the vermin just walked a few miles to the 'end; and came in anyway. And, as we discovered with Reagan, there WILL come a time of MPAI letting back in the globalists, and the globalists will IMMEDIATELY stop all your border surveillance and "tighter" (JA!) immigration; and they'll pull money -- of directly order! -- the Border Patrol to quit. (We STILL don't have cops allowed to ask immigration status when they stop people!)

The physical wall IS the protection! (Would you take down one of your house walls and expect that somehow invaders would be stopped by 'tighter immigration' (a sign on the lawn saying keep out?), 'border surveillance' (hire a guard for a few hours a week to sit around outside?) and 'enforcement' (riiiight, call the cops AFTER the burglars come in?) and 'some areas with a physical wall' (those of htere three walls of your house? Yup. that'll work! (NOT!)

(Oh, and don't forget, your local town council and police chief will declare that the vermin (not-)breaking into your partially-walled house are "just part of living in a modern city, so get used to it"?)

Blogger SirGroggy September 11, 2017 8:40 AM  

Entirely physical. For a start. Because symbolism matters.

It's funny when you hear leftists, when asked why shouldn't we build a wall?

They say, it won't work, people will get in, they will use ladders and cheat and it's not going to work.
-> Flies in the face of the history of great walls. It's just a technical problem, to be solved, but they are not questioning the legitimacy.

After that, they say it's immoral.
-> Counter-question: do you have walls around you in your house to keep people out who you don't want to allow in?

They realise the trap they are in. Here's the funny bit:
They say no, I don't mind who comes into my house, the walls are just there to keep the wind out!

And then their final argument is this: ... uhhhhh... that's different!

Oh, so you have walls around your home to control who can come in.
But you don't want that for your country.

Children of the lie!!!!

Blogger SirGroggy September 11, 2017 8:42 AM  

Perhaps it could be called The Great Wall of America ?

Blogger Timmy3 September 11, 2017 8:43 AM  

Trump will push DACA at the expense of The Wall. He wants legislative victories instead of his agenda unless there's a hidden strategy that I'm not aware of.

Anonymous Avalanche September 11, 2017 8:45 AM  

@24 Bit of a conundrum, yes? Have to hire swamp creatures to drain the swamp.

BUT,you have to keep your hired swamp creatures on a TIGHT leash with a focused mission! I don't see that happening.

And his #%&*)@#$+ "Javanka" IS a swamp creature AND is running loose "in his house" tripping (or driving off!) the guys actually working to drain the swamp!

Anonymous Avalanche September 11, 2017 8:49 AM  

@29 build the damned wall themselves, even if they have to include Paul Ryan's & all the other GOP cucks in the foundation.

MAN! I'd pay for lots of bricks if they built with THAT foundation!! Let's set up a Wall-Kickstarter!! (Can we include the Dems and the city "officials" (I'll help find a great spot for Rahm I. -- 16' down WITH fire ants!!)

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 11, 2017 9:06 AM  

i completely disagree.

God Emperor Trump should dangle The Wall out in front of his supporters as a rallying cry and fund raising mechanism. if he builds it, he loses that.

it's the FlatUI of political campaigning.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 11, 2017 9:07 AM  

Do you advocate a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas with a physical wall rhetorically sufficient? (Ie the Scott Adams wall)

The Scott Adams wall is like gay marriage. One is not the wall, the other is not marriage.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 11, 2017 9:12 AM  

God Emperor Trump should dangle The Wall out in front of his supporters as a rallying cry and fund raising mechanism. if he builds it, he loses that.

That would be stupid because it's what every politician does on the issues that the base cares about.

Blogger DeploraBard September 11, 2017 9:26 AM  

China has a great wall and we want one too.

Anonymous Bad Attitude September 11, 2017 9:28 AM  

Land mines could be deployed quickly, and would have a similar deterrent to a wall. Plus, after the first couple land mines get set off by illegals, the Mexican government will build the wall themselves.

Blogger Savage Henry September 11, 2017 9:31 AM  

@26 et al I thought that would be the case. Scott Adams' positivity is good for my morale when my faith is being tested, but you know what's even better for morale - a big league wall. Maybe he's saving it, to time it closer to 2020.

Anonymous Steveo September 11, 2017 9:35 AM  

If there is not a BIG @SS wall by 2019, stretching 2000+ miles across the southern border of the USA... then it will be very bad indeed.

I think the odds of getting any wall are now very low, less than 1 in 5.

Blogger Salt September 11, 2017 9:37 AM  

Two elements from the campaign stand out. Build the Wall and Drain the Swamp. The Wall is tied directly to the Swamp as all revenue bills (includes funding) shall originate in the House.

As with repeal Obamacare failure, the Trump ham-stringing Republicans are limp-wristed on the wall. He had to go the Democrats for fiscal extension.

Watch for the Wall to be an integral part of the mid-term Swamp drainage elections.

Anonymous Lara Mycroft September 11, 2017 9:43 AM  

Do you advocate a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas with a physical wall rhetorically sufficient? (Ie the Scott Adams wall)

The "Scott Adams wall"? As if he's the one who came up with (or popularized) the partial-wall idea?

I think you've been persuaded to think that.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 11, 2017 9:43 AM  

Land mines could be deployed quickly, and would have a similar deterrent to a wall.

Land mines are not a wall

Blogger tuberman September 11, 2017 9:46 AM  

Do not trust Bannon, as he was a Cruzbot before joining Trump. So was his boss Mercer. Cruz was and is a complete, "paid for play" globalist.

Wait and see how things come out. I figure the Wall will be built, and many Republican Globalists will still be further exposed by the Primaries next year.

Anonymous Andrew E. September 11, 2017 9:58 AM  

Why doesn't Trump just order the military to build the Wall? He's Commander-in-Chief, the military exists to protect the nation. He doesn't need Congress for this.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 11, 2017 10:04 AM  

41. Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 11, 2017 9:12 AM
That would be stupid because it's what every politician does on the issues that the base cares about.



Dennis Hastert and Bawney Fwank are two of the most successful politicians of the last 50 years.

you want the God Emperor to be as successful as two child molestors, right?

Blogger Ian Miguel Martin September 11, 2017 10:04 AM  

No. Do not build the wall. The white race will live or die in Europe, go and fight your battle there. Europe for Europeans, Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians. But--for better or worse--the Western Hemisphere is destined to be a melting pot. Viva La Raza!

Blogger tuberman September 11, 2017 10:18 AM  

I'm hoping that Bannon and Mercer are the real deal at this point, so far, "talking the talk."

Blogger Amy September 11, 2017 10:26 AM  

"Perhaps it could be called The Great Wall of America ?"

Patriots Wall?

d.c., I'm most familiar with the Celtic pagan practice of sacrificing a worker as a foundation is laid, to satisfy the gods and make a building stand, though that is likely a practice of many or most other ancient cultures as well. Blooding the stones with politicos works far, far better for me than with that of a common (and hopefully honest) man.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 11, 2017 10:33 AM  

Bannon is right. And I notice he's not saying it won't get built, just that it must get built.

I think maybe President Trump could do a better job of telling Americans about the progress, prototypes being selected this month, construction beginning in X locations such-and-such month, etc. News about those things is out there, but you have to look for it, because the MSM won't reliably report it. Scheduled weekly progress reports via his Twitter, or something like that would be nice.

But that's nitpicking. All that really matters is that he builds it. Once steady construction is underway, the NeverTrumpers and defeatists will have a major talking point yanked away, and they'll have to shift to things like whining about the cost or claiming it can't be done on Trump's timetable. Which means they'll keep being proven wrong again and again.

And I guess one reason not to give detailed progress reports is that it's better if the globalists don't know exactly what's coming. Maybe it's better to let them think their agents in the White House are getting to him and slowing him down, even though that means less reassurance for us.

Blogger Giraffe September 11, 2017 10:36 AM  

The Scott Adams wall is like gay marriage. One is not the wall, the other is not marriage.

It's the function that matters. An actual physical wall won't keep people out if it isn't maintained and patrolled. If we get the wall, it won't matter if another Obama is elected. He wouln't even bother to knock over the ladders over the wall.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 11, 2017 10:37 AM  

As I recall, there was an interesting scene in The 300 where a wall was built entirely with the corpses of the fallen invading skirmishers.

It is a fascinating, ongoing discussion about to what extent life imitates art, and to what extend when it does so, the imitation is metaphorical.

To what extent are our fictional "stories" simply vaguely illustrated snapshots of the precognitive mass-mind that will animate mass action that's already in the "history pipeline?"

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 11, 2017 10:38 AM  

It's the function that matters.

No, it's the symbolism.

Blogger ZhukovG September 11, 2017 10:42 AM  

The timing of events may be related to the upcoming congressional elections. Separating the American Pit Bulls from the Globalist Schweinhund.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 11, 2017 10:46 AM  

@3 Looking Glass
The 4 concrete models were approved for test builds; 4 non-concrete will be announced sometime in September.

That is more real progress on border control than any President in the last 50 - 60 years and in the face of internal opposition. The glass is not half full, but at least it isn't totally empty anymore.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 11, 2017 10:48 AM  

What will be, will be, but I do wonder if Trump's admin is trying to do two things:
1. Position Congress (specifically the GOP's face-men) to be blamed when this final debt-binge stupidity rolls over, instead of what historically happens, which is whoever happens to be in the Oval Office holding the hand grenade when it ticks down to zero.
2. Create stark reminders for use by challengers in every 2018 republican primary, such that as many cucks as possible can be sent home with a coating of tar and feathers.

So much depends on the mass mind. If we remain in this Pollyanna Period, the mixed messages of a Trump Admin with a Cuck+Dem-Lunatic Congress means stalemate.

If the markets (and mood) break south, then a pre-positioning of Trump on one side and Ryan/et.al. on the other might see the 2016 "POTUS upset" flood into republican primaries and we might see a real change in the inertial leftward spin of the USA.

All I know is that the USA has pawned everything but the kitchen sink these last 36 years, and the DACA issue highlights how much inertia remains to hoc even that. The mass mind must change, and with that precognitive change will be a reframing of "how wealthy" are Americans. When the masses suddenly realize the degree to which they are actually debt-slave-impoverished, I sure as HELL would not want to be an "uninvited guest" crowding the job markets, subsidized colleges, hospital ER's and welfare rolls.

Anonymous Grayman September 11, 2017 10:59 AM  

So much #WINNING it hurts!

https://twitter.com/polNewsInfinity/status/906563162987810816

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 11, 2017 11:01 AM  

Patriot Prayer event in Portland, Oregon area yesterday. LIbtards and Klantifa showed up, along with the Proud Boys and something called Hell Shaking Street Preachers.

Patriot Prayer wound up moving from Portland to Vancouver, Wash. to stay away from the Klantifa.

Unlike in Virginia, Portland cops obviously were NOT ordered to set anyone up:

Police formed a barrier between counterprotesters and Patriot Prayer supporters to maintain order. As the demonstration started to wind down late in the afternoon, officers were letting people out of the area eight at a time to avoid confrontations between the groups, according to KGW.

It's routine for libtards and leftards to accuse the two Patriot Prayer guys of "white supremacy", which just shows how retarded they really are. Samoans are not "white". A half-Japanese guy is not "white". Leftards are stupid.

Anonymous Grayman September 11, 2017 11:03 AM  

DC

Trump is just a transition. MAGA is just a symptom of what is coming which will make trump look like warm fuzzy puppy-dog compared to the 300lb beast that will be put into place by people sick of the nihilistic progressivw wave. People who would rather see a conservative tyrant, and happily submit to such, as opposed to being swallowed by the nihilistic progressive cloud of nothingness.... the great nothing ;)

Anonymous BBGKB September 11, 2017 11:10 AM  

"Mexico will pay for it" seems more and more likely as the NAFTA talks show how much power we have

There was already a plan to make Mexico pay for it by taxing money wired back to Mexico at the same rate Carlos Slims takes out, but that's too complicated for leftists to understand.

Do you advocate a entirely physical wall, or is a combination of tighter immigration, border surveillance and enforcement and some areas

Just like with gold/silver if you can't touch it, it might not be there. MFGlobal

Blogger dc.sunsets September 11, 2017 11:24 AM  

@64 Grayman, twins we are.

I remain of the opinion that
1. The next Big Thing is Right (not Left, and for the first time in about 400 years.)
2. In just a few short years, we *could* see a complete inversion, where even the currently inveterate leftists in the Media are raving, frothing-at-the-mouth Rightists calling for expulsions and round-ups and ending any tissue of "birthright" citizenship.
3. Today's "anything goes" anarchism will switch to support for either a military coup de tat or explicit strong-man rule.

I don't think the future is a Stalin, I think it's a Pinochet. What's coming is our Right version of the Bolshevik Revolution. Every political movement we've seen in recent centuries was Leftist. Lest anyone forget, the government administration that birthed Cradle-to-Grave government support (a la FDR's and LBJ's moves) was that of Germany's Iron Chancellor, Otto von Bismarck!

Leftism divorced politics from community and community from responsibility. It did so to Immamentize the Eschaton, which is about as stupid as any notion ever imagined.

When Cthulhu stops spinning Left, it will be a whole new world. But painless it won't be. The real question to me is how demanding becomes politics. Universal "service" is all but certain, and overshooting from "anything goes" enabled by the state to "everyhing is owed" TO the state is a likely risk.

Even imagining a Rightist polity is extremely difficult now. I expect we'll discover it, one bit at a time.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 11, 2017 11:27 AM  

I sincerely hope that a turn to the Right is explicitly accompanied by the spiritual revival of Christianity as a guiding light to politics, for without that tempering quality, a lurch to the Right could turn into the mirror image of the French Revolution.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar September 11, 2017 11:33 AM  

@56
"He wouldn't even bother to knock over the ladders over the wall."

Actually he would knock gaps in it and provided hydration stations and area maps.

Blogger pyrrhus September 11, 2017 11:37 AM  

Ike deported more than a million Mexicans in a few months under his powers as Commander-In-Chief, and no one said boo....As far as I am concerned, Trump could build the Wall under the same powers, using the Army Corps of Engineers....Then we could have the interesting attempt to have the courts interfere with those powers, which has never occurred to my knowledge.

Anonymous BBGKB September 11, 2017 11:39 AM  

When Cthulhu stops spinning Left, it will be a whole new world. But painless it won't be

Everyone dependent on meds in single payer Venezuela is dying off
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/venezuela-about-to-have-far-fewer-hiv-patients/

Anonymous Grayman September 11, 2017 11:43 AM  

@DC 57

GREAT SCENE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5fXu9_A2d4

We need an Art-Deco portion of the wall with mexican figures holding it up under a crushing weight as they look back to mexico in anguish! Now that is sending a message!

Anonymous Grayman September 11, 2017 11:53 AM  

BBGKB

ALmost 30 million people in the US are on insulin for type 2 diabetes. Fatties for the most part that refuse to get off of refined sugars amd carbs. In any sort of crash scenario a large % of them are as good as dead.

Even more fun; 23% of women between 40 and 59 take antidepressants. You cant just stop antidepressants, you must taper off or bad things happen. Any serious disruption to the supply chain, which is undescribably fragile and all those on anti-depressant are in serious trouble as well.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 11, 2017 11:53 AM  

(Ie the Scott Adams wall)

It sounds like Scott is overthinking it, as he is wont to do. There's nothing sexy about building a wall, no new technology, nothing a nerd can really get into. Once you have a plan, it's just stacking bricks, pouring conrete, unrolling barbed wire, etc. Mile after mile until you're done. So you're always going to get smart people trying to make it more complicated and interesting. Ignore them and build.

Anonymous BBGKB September 11, 2017 12:10 PM  

ALmost 30 million people in the US are on insulin for type 2 diabetes...In any sort of crash scenario a large % of them are as good as dead.

I am well aware that the power grid going down would cause a 80-90% die off, but until then we have things like Katrina nurses/doctors/hospital being sued because they didn't evacuate a 600+lbs guy who needed powered machines to live, before they evacuated 6000lbs of babies/kids.

I printed off how to make insulin at 1930s level quality control for an ex that has Type I diabetes in case of nigapocalypse. https://www.doomandbloom.net/how-to-make-insulin/ Imagine a vegan reading the instructions.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 11, 2017 12:12 PM  

@69 pyrrhus
Ike deported more than a million Mexicans in a few months under his powers as Commander-In-Chief, and no one said boo....

Mynmar has pushed tens of thousands of Islamics out, too. Both are different countries from this one.

Anonymous Clay September 11, 2017 12:36 PM  

I'm kinda in a hurry, and haven't been able to read all the posts in this thread....whatever happened to the idea of using the 10B dollars confiscated from the Mexican/Columbian drug lord that got busted for use in building the Wall?

Anonymous Gen. Kong September 11, 2017 1:01 PM  

It's routine for libtards and leftards to accuse the two Patriot Prayer guys of "white supremacy", which just shows how retarded they really are. Samoans are not "white". A half-Japanese guy is not "white". Leftards are stupid.

Wrong. They are liars and doing so deliberately. They are going to call anyone who disagrees with them a Nazi, just as surely Anglin is going to blame Irma on the Jews. As the Z-man noted (and as Anglin proved in his attempted debate), the term now means anyone who doesn't express sufficient approval of the destruction of what remains of Western civilization and the genocide of whites.

While it is useful to know what the real Nazis of the 1930s stood for, those who've been in control of the narrative for past several decades have changed its meaning, as they have for "white supremacist", "fascist", etc. Real Nazis no longer even exist. Anglin is a fake-Nazi, a moron who is attempting to use Alinksyite tactics so poorly against the folks who gave birth to such tactics that he ends up lending support to the false narrative. The good news is that despite Anglin and his nonsense, the narrative about even Charlottesville is collapsing.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 11, 2017 1:07 PM  

@ BBGKB, you highlight the tradeoff with any monopoly system. Such things develop over time, and the unwary do not notice their dependence as it grows into a child-like cocoon.

Such is all of our easy dependence on the cheap frills of Modernity. In a full scale apocalypse, the only wild game avaialable in such quantity as to feed large numbers of people is, of course, Long Pig.
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There was a story out of the US Virgin Islands that the governor there ordered privately owned firearms confiscated, with the excuse that the "authorities" needed the guns and ammo to maintain order. No monopoly brooks competition, for that is why it is what it is.

PS: This is one possible reason for owning firearms in uncommon chamberings. Not much use to thieves, official or unofficial, if there's no resupply.

Build the wall. "Persuade" uninvited guests to GO HOME.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd September 11, 2017 1:08 PM  

A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:Mynmar has pushed tens of thousands of Islamics out, too. Both are different countries from this one.

We were a different country in the past. We will be a different country in the future. The only question is when we get there. DC.Sunsets thinks it will be soon. Vox thinks it will take a few years yet.

Blogger DonReynolds September 11, 2017 1:16 PM  

The Wall on the Mexican Border should be built for humanitarian reasons.
If something is not done soon enough, civil war could result in this country over the issue of this country being invaded by illegal Mexicans and Central Americans.
As they have found in Northern Ireland and Israel and ancient Britain and China, a Wall is much cheaper than a war.

Blogger DonReynolds September 11, 2017 1:26 PM  

@69 pyrrhus wrote:Ike deported more than a million Mexicans in a few months under his powers as Commander-In-Chief, and no one said boo....As far as I am concerned, Trump could build the Wall under the same powers, using the Army Corps of Engineers....Then we could have the interesting attempt to have the courts interfere with those powers, which has never occurred to my knowledge.

Eisenhower did not dream that up all by himself. During WWII, an agreement was made with the Mexican government to supply labor to the war economy (subject to limitations, such as they would not be drafted into military service). When the war ended, the Mexican government demanded their people be returned, since they were needed in the post-war Mexican economy. Truman ignored their repeated requests. When Eisenhower became president, the Mexican government renewed their demands for the return of their laborers and Eisenhower complied with the agreement. They were never intended to be immigrants to the USA. They were simply on loan to assist with the labor shortage during WWII.

Anonymous Grayman September 11, 2017 1:26 PM  

@74 BBGKB

As someone who does process engineering and design in pharma and biotech, I would be surprised if somone actually produced anything useful following that process in anything even close to a grid down scenario.
That process is very incomplete and "fragile" without going into to much detail.

If you have type 1.... youre dead.

Anonymous Grayman September 11, 2017 1:40 PM  

I found some statues we should adorn thw wall with, facing mexico of course....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJZisJ9W4AEjyK7.jpg:large

Blogger dc.sunsets September 11, 2017 1:43 PM  

@83 Grayman, your link to /pol/ News Infinity is an endless laugh-riot! New meaning to "all ur memes belong us."
https://twitter.com/polNewsInfinity

Blogger dc.sunsets September 11, 2017 1:48 PM  

Build the wall.
Deport the uninvited.
Then lets get about some other unfinished business, i.e., driving certain types of people OUT, citizen or not.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJUwGOCUQAIQ_X5.jpg

The fingerprints on this collage's inputs should make identification VERY easy.

Anonymous patrick kelly September 11, 2017 1:55 PM  

Andrew E. wrote:Why doesn't Trump just order the military to build the Wall? He's Commander-in-Chief, the military exists to protect the nation. He doesn't need Congress for this.

Yeah, if he really intends to build the wall and drain the swamp he should bring all our troops home to build and man the wall. That would also cause entertaining conniption fits by the neo-cucks.

Anonymous Grayman September 11, 2017 2:37 PM  

DC

I had a bit of an epiphany the other day. I usually call BS when you start hearing the diversity tossing around “you expect me to act white in school, that’s why I fail”, but it struck me that they actually have a point. Look at Africa…….. If I really follow the biology > identity > culture > politics logic all the way through, then they are correct. They do not behave in a “western manner”, as a group they do not demonstrate the capacity for advanced learning and have established biological traits that make “white education” difficult for them.
That does not excuse anything but it is the reality of situation. It should be noted that there is no equivalent “black way to act” that produces a western type individual. It’s just one more reason that ethno-states are one of the only stable solutions. As a group they have never brought themselves out of the Bronze Age at best

Anonymous Grayman September 11, 2017 2:40 PM  

@86 Patrick

At this point, such an attempt by trump would instigate a coup, possibly a military one by the number of general staff Obama packed the DOD with, or through congresional collusion by both parties. His power over the establishment is entirely too tenuous to make such a strong-man decree at this point in the game.

Blogger James Dixon September 11, 2017 4:17 PM  

> Build the wall. "Persuade" uninvited guests to GO HOME.

There was a discussion on Instapundit about the "dreamers". I simply noted they were here illegally and had to go back.

An RDWalker responded: "Unless they decide to of their own volition, they are never going back. Whether they should or not, they aren't. They will live the rest of their lives in this country. Anything else is fantasy."

I refrained from noting that this was perfectly acceptable, but that the "rest of their lives" might be considerably shorter than he was expecting.

Blogger Thucydides September 11, 2017 4:51 PM  

A crowdfunding sort of message could be sent to the various GOPs's who are holding things up; simply have people start showing up to the border and building sections of wall on weekends. This could start where people actually have property on or very near the border (I'm building my own wall), and then branch sections off from there.

People want the wall, and seeing sections built will simply drive momentum to get more done. Let the GOPe's explain to their constituents why the people are doing this on their own without government, the flailing about should be quite entertaining.

Blogger DonReynolds September 11, 2017 6:22 PM  

No matter how much money Congress allows or does not allow for the Wall on the Border, President Trump has a card he can call on from the Lincoln playbook.

As President he can call for VOLUNTEERS to build and protect the Wall. Even if he only called for 100,000 volunteers, he would have a half million by the end of the month....to build the wall and protect it.

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Blogger GraceIronwood September 11, 2017 7:22 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:No matter how much money Congress allows or does not allow for the Wall on the Border, President Trump has a card he can call on from the Lincoln playbook.

As President he can call for VOLUNTEERS to build and protect the Wall. Even if he only called for 100,000 volunteers, he would have a half million by the end of the month....to build the wall and protect it.




What a great idea to energize support!

Trump's candidacy only attracted support due to Immigration and the Overton window. It took off precisely as he made his infamous comments about criminality and illegal immigrants.

The peoples of the West largely hold immigration policy as an important voting issue they've never been allowed to vote on.

The vote is already there- we're just taking our time producing effective politicians to vote for.

Blogger GraceIronwood September 11, 2017 7:50 PM  

An honest Question
Why do so many people here predict/look forward to, Zombie Apocalypse?

Blogger James Dixon September 11, 2017 8:35 PM  

> An honest Question

Sure it is. Just like the one in the NFL thread was.

> Why do so many people here predict/look forward to, Zombie Apocalypse?

Probably because we have a reasonably accurate view of reality and history.

Anonymous Anonymous September 11, 2017 10:13 PM  

The House of Reps who have to be the starting point for spending, mayhaps?

Anonymous Hoss September 11, 2017 11:47 PM  

Even if it requires putting Paul Ryan's balls in a vice. (On the assumption you can find them.)

Gonna have to wait for them to drop first.

Anonymous Clay September 12, 2017 3:10 AM  

patrick kelly wrote:Andrew E. wrote:Why doesn't Trump just order the military to build the Wall? He's Commander-in-Chief, the military exists to protect the nation. He doesn't need Congress for this.

Yeah, if he really intends to build the wall and drain the swamp he should bring all our troops home to build and man the wall. That would also cause entertaining conniption fits by the neo-cucks.



Well, I've said over and over, ad nausem...close a bunch of military bases.

Move them all to the border.

Hey...it would be practical experience.

Anonymous Fuck your vote, and all y'alls other votes September 12, 2017 3:54 AM  

If the God Emperor doesn't build the Wall, then the God Emperor's Will is the Will of the Gods.

And every one of you who voted for him is responsible if He does not Deliver.

The lack of the wall is entirely your responsibility. Utterly, and without any question.

Blogger wreckage September 12, 2017 6:09 AM  

@100, you don't know what utterly means.

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