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Wednesday, November 29, 2017

A lack of self-awareness

Peter King of MMQB is a good football reporter, but he doesn't seem to fully grasp the nature of his job is little different than the "social media screamers" he laments.
SOCIAL MEDIA SCREAMERS
In your MMQB this week, you made the comment that circumstances surrounding the Greg Schiano situation are “a disgrace to thinking people,” and that those that scream loud enough can overcome reason. I couldn’t agree with you more. To me, there are at least two consequences of this ongoing issue. First, the effort (or lack thereof) of decision makers, such as the Tennessee AD and his team, to perform due diligence and make decisions is becoming less relevant than making sure that the screamers agree with you. Second, thoughtful people are becoming less likely to be in positions of authority, as powerful people start to believe that only the decision’s reaction matters. It has become more important these days to scream than to think. Sports often mirror society, and I’m afraid that’s happening here. I’m hopeful that we’ve bottomed out on this issue, and that rationality and respect start coming back into vogue.​
—Benjy T., Statesboro, Ga.

Thanks, Benjy. We’re in a strange time in our country’s history. Intelligence and thinking have been devalued. Who can yell the loudest has greater value. We’ll see how long it lasts. I’m hoping it’s a passing fad, but I can’t predict it.

MEDIA HYPOCRISY
The result of mainstream media is in turn a direct result of people on social media using their platform to announce a  “guilty before proven innocent” verdict which is unfortunately the environment we live in now. How can you as columnist use your platform to continuously make it known your dismay for our current president? Can’t that be considered a mainstream media lynch mob attack, instead of a social media attack? Or can mainstream media also influence social media? However, this failed coaching hire is deemed a social injustice by you because the people/alumni of The University of Tennessee didn’t want a coach who potentially could have known about this abuse. This is now to be considered a social media lynch mob? Aren’t you in fact guilty of the same accusations that you are publicizing? I am fed up with the powerful left using every platform they can to push their agenda. I don’t want to see politics in my sports and I surely don’t want to see them in my sports articles. I know you probably won’t read this and some intern will, but at least I got someone to read it.  ​
—Chad H.

A lot of people feel the way you feel, and I can’t say you’re wrong and I’m right. I don’t know if I’m right. I just know that when the president does something I consider absolutely stupid and insulting to the American people and terrible for the country, I’m going to point it out on Twitter or maybe in an opinion part of my column. He has debased the presidency and in turn the country, and, obviously, I’m not afraid of saying so. I never want to wake up one day if something truly disastrous happens as a direct result of this president’s actions or inactions and say, “Why didn’t I say anything? Why was I silent?” I respect your right to criticize me, but to say it’s a media lynch mob … Chad, I assume you didn’t spend any time in journalism school in your life. I just wish you had. We’re about calling it the way we see it, most of us, and about trying to report—and comment on—facts.
Now, I think the decision of the Tennessee athletic director was abysmally stupid too, although I have been corrected as to the responsible parties, and it was not SJWs, but rather, deluded UT fans who think that their program merits a higher status football coach than Greg Schiano. Which is ironic, because the one thing Schiano can actually do is help a longtime underachieving program catch up to its historically more successful peers, which would seem to be a talent that is not irrelevant to UT football.

But Peter King's obliviousness to the way in which his behavior is no different than people expressing their opinion on social media demonstrates the way the media resents the public having access to a voice of their own. Of course, this is why the SJW-converged social media giants have been increasingly trying to shut down everyone who is genuinely on the right, in order to maintain the Left's control on the public discourse.

And be warned, if you're going to use this as an excuse to talk about yourself and things you don't do, I will spam you without hesitation. I am thoroughly sick of the precious snowflakes who believe anyone else cares about their opinion of someone else's interests so I'm going to start spamming all of them. There are many things I don't do, and I don't leap in to express my opinion about any of them whenever someone mentions one. If you're not interested in the topic of a post, that's absolutely fine. Don't comment on it.

UPDATE: As he so often does, Mike Cernovich explains this particular media phenomenon:
It's HARASSMENT when the right does it, it's ACTIVISM when the left does it. Understanding that key Rule to Social Justice (and its various permutations and implications).... and it all makes sense.

UPDATE: As one might have anticipated, no one wants the UT job now.

The University of Tennessee’s comical/pathetic search for a head coach now includes being spurned by an alumnus. According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, Lions offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter will not interview for the vacant Volunteers job. After firing Butch Jones, the Volunteers offered/rescinded former Bucs coach Greg Schiano, and have been turned down by Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy. Duke head coach David Cutcliffe, a former Vols assistant, has also declined to interview for the job. 

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70 Comments:

Anonymous Luke November 29, 2017 5:49 AM  

OT: Vox, what do you think of the "Pigman" comics? At first blush, they sound Alt-Heroish.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/11/pre-order-the-infidel-featuring-pigman-2

Blogger Felix Bellator November 29, 2017 5:51 AM  

"We’re about calling it the way we see it, most of us, and about trying to report—and comment on—facts."

When has it ever been that way with the press? At first social media and blogs where like graffiti on the walls on ancient Rome. Now that independent voices and alternate means of accessing information (thank you Infogalactic) have taken off the Left is in full panic mode. Even factual observations with no partisan opinion trigger the Left.

Like a spring, the harder they push reality away the more forceful the snap back when it finally cuts loose.

Blogger VD November 29, 2017 5:57 AM  

Fine, Doom, you're booted, as you say. I'm not sorry to see you go, because you're tedious, tiresome, narcissistic, and incoherent. I've tolerated your self-obsessed blather for years.

But you cannot accuse a man of lying before he has even said anything at all. And I will not tolerate that.

Blogger DonReynolds November 29, 2017 5:59 AM  

Vox.....I have been fighting with these same people since the 1960s. They knew more about the VietNam conflict than anyone in Washington. They knew more about how to protect the environment than any engineer. They knew everything about American history, the race problem, poverty, crime, and foreign trade. And they wanted everyone to stop in their tracks and start obeying them, so they could run the country and the world. Since then, the VietNam conflict has gone away, LBJ is dead, and this country elected a Negro president for two terms. So what do they scream about now? Open Borders. Sexual harassment and the Rape Culture. Gun Violence. The Rights of Gays and Transexuals. And how much they hate the current president and anyone who supports him.

Back in the old days, the freaks would print off handbills and brochures to pass out on street corners. They would hang around parking lots with incoherent petitions and collect signatures. They would gather in front of government buildings with bull horns and printed signs. Now it is much, much easier. They can rant and rave on Facebook, or Twitter. They can block the comments of anyone else who disagrees by calling it "hate speech" or "racist". They can organize boycotts of any business that refuses to comply with their demands. They can get government agencies to file lawsuits and demand monetary damages and compensation. They can pressure employers to fire employees who publicly challenge the Leftist Liberal agenda or make any "counter-revolutionary" or "reactionary" comment.

This fight has been going on for over 50 years, involving many of the same people, usually on the same sides, over a slowly shifting (but largely stable) list of complaints. Some eventually drop off and are replaced by others, without ever resolving any of them. The wounds never close, the infection spreads, and the scars just keep getting bigger and more numerous.

Blogger Roger Hill November 29, 2017 6:00 AM  

Its amazing that when one takes the time to actually read comments by people on articles linked by Yahoo, the vast majority of them reflect either a more Alt-right mindset or a conservative one. And although the article will be fawning over a gay couple or lamenting the latest police shooting of a black criminal (and dripping with progressive/SJW bias) the comments by readers are like sharp stick in the eye to progressives and SJWs.

Blogger Lazarus November 29, 2017 6:00 AM  

Felix Bellator wrote:When has it ever been that way with the press?

That is just their mantra that they pull out when challenged. In the same paragraph he all but confessed to having Trump Derangement Syndrome stemming from the cognitive dissonance of Trump's election.

As Scott Adams has noted, people in Hysteria do not recognize they are in Hysteria.

Blogger VD November 29, 2017 6:00 AM  

Vox, what do you think of the "Pigman" comics? At first blush, they sound Alt-Heroish.

I think they sound a lot like what people erroneously think Alt-Hero will be. And one-note stories are seldom interesting. And I very much doubt they are fully aware of what the possible consequences will be; most people striking self-consciously brave poses don't actually believe that they will ever pay the price.

Blogger Duke Norfolk November 29, 2017 6:02 AM  

A lack of self-awareness. Another of the many consistent traits of the left; especially (((the left))). It's quite helpful to them when they're engaging in one of their favorite techniques: gaslighting.

Blogger Shimshon November 29, 2017 6:03 AM  

Vox is not only kind. He's tolerant.

"We’re about calling it the way we see it, most of us, and about trying to report—and comment on—facts."

I guess that depends on the meaning of the word "facts". Or the relevance thereof. Sheesh, give someone a mic to act or pontificate on sports, anything
that gets them an audience, and suddenly they're Henry Kissinger or Steven Hawking, but smarter.

Blogger VD November 29, 2017 6:07 AM  

Peter King, paraphrased: I just know that when the athletic director does something I consider absolutely stupid and insulting to the UT alumni and terrible for the football program, I’m going to point it out on Twitter.

He's literally doing exactly the same thing they are, on exactly the same social media platform, but what is noble and right for him is a sign of societal decay when others are doing it. Incredible.

Blogger DonReynolds November 29, 2017 6:13 AM  

Peter King is no longer a journalist. He is not even a sportscaster. He has made himself a Social Media Cheerleader... complete with stunts, pom-poms, and canned lines. He just wants to pick the cheers for his cheering section.

Anonymous Dyskord November 29, 2017 6:14 AM  

I’m not afraid of saying so. I never want to wake up one day if something truly disastrous happens as a direct result of this president’s actions or inactions and say, “Why didn’t I say anything? Why was I silent?”

He says this without seeing the irony of his statement. In his mind he is not one of a thousands of deluded leftists. he is one of the few, strong and brave standing on the right side of history against the worst of humanity and its abuses.

We are standing against the decline of fall of Western civilization. Meanwhile Peter King and other fools are standing against us and cheering the destruction of Western Civ with the knowledge and glee of one who believes something better will replace it.

Anonymous Gemstone November 29, 2017 6:17 AM  

OT but, need fodder for another Boomer Thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMn1763UROQ&t=52s

Stefan's got a doozy with this woman. Even when they're home-schooling alt-righters, they have to make the struggle completely about THEM...

Anonymous Charlottesvillain November 29, 2017 6:20 AM  

VD wrote:Peter King, paraphrased: I just know that when the athletic director does something I consider absolutely stupid and insulting to the UT alumni and terrible for the football program, I’m going to point it out on Twitter.

He's literally doing exactly the same thing they are, on exactly the same social media platform, but what is noble and right for him is a sign of societal decay when others are doing it. Incredible.


Reminds me of Cernovich's tweet from yesterday:

"It's HARASSMENT when the right does it, it's ACTIVISM when the left does it.

Understanding that key Rule to Social Justice (and its various permutations and implications).... and it all makes sense."

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/935564757330837504

Blogger Lazarus November 29, 2017 6:32 AM  

VD wrote:He's literally doing exactly the same thing they are,

But he went to journalism school, so it is different, because (insert mantra here)

Blogger DonReynolds November 29, 2017 6:34 AM  

@14 Charlottsvillian
"Reminds me of Cernovich's tweet from yesterday:

"It's HARASSMENT when the right does it, it's ACTIVISM when the left does it.

Understanding that key Rule to Social Justice (and its various permutations and implications).... and it all makes sense."

When the Leftists burn a US or Confederate flag it is protected Free Speech, but when the Right burns a rainbow flag it is "hate speech" and "inciting violence".

When the Leftists engage in violence against persons or destroy public or private property, it is a "peaceful protest". When they block traffic and attack people in the vehicles, it does not matter about the emergency vehicles being blocked....it is still their lawful right to "peacefully" demonstrate. If the police do anything to clear a way for the traffic, it is "oppression" and a denial of civil rights.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera November 29, 2017 6:41 AM  

It's HARASSMENT when the right does it, it's ACTIVISM when the left does it.

Excellent boildown.

Anonymous Mister M November 29, 2017 6:59 AM  

I remember reading King in SI 20-30 years ago. It would have been like reading sanskrit if anything political had been mentioned. I saw an SI at work the other day - it was completely unrecognizable. No wonder the guy at Outkick the Coverage is rolling in it - this post shows the one sided blindness of these people.

Blogger Phillip George November 29, 2017 7:00 AM  

It's HARASSMENT when the right does it, it's ACTIVISM when the left does it.

Excellent boildown.


I put it differently. It's democracy when we want it. It's populism when we don't.

God could recreate Eden by killing every hypocrite. 2017 has a long way to go still. Sodom and Hitler and 1936 and Godwin.

Blogger Phillip George November 29, 2017 7:03 AM  

imagine a world where sport was sport.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer November 29, 2017 7:04 AM  

Roger Hill wrote:Its amazing that when one takes the time to actually read comments by people on articles linked by Yahoo, the vast majority of them reflect either a more Alt-right mindset or a conservative one. And although the article will be fawning over a gay couple or lamenting the latest police shooting of a black criminal (and dripping with progressive/SJW bias) the comments by readers are like sharp stick in the eye to progressives and SJWs.

Which is why many media sites are slowly removing comments sections from their pages. Their bubble must be made complete.

Blogger Sherwood family November 29, 2017 7:16 AM  

Not a big football watcher but do enjoy the occasional collegiate game. But the transformation of sports at all levels over the last couple of years into political rather than athletic contests similar to the way Olympic gymnastics, ice skating, and hockey were made political at the height of the Cold War is just weird.

Some things just do not need to be political or politicized, yet the SJWs have been relentless in making what you eat, what you wear, where you live, where go to school, what sports you play/watch, what kind of car you drive, etc. overtly political. It is tiresome.

Blogger Matthew Funk November 29, 2017 7:29 AM  

SJWs have been relentless in making what you eat, what you wear, where you live, where go to school, what sports you play/watch, what kind of car you drive, etc. overtly political. It is tiresome.

It is almost as if the concept of a boundary is foreign to them. The idea of neutral territory does not exist in their worldview. Everywhere they go and everything they do exists for the explicit purpose of rooting out a head to put on a pike. The stories I could tell if only I didn't comment under my real name.

Blogger Howard Stone November 29, 2017 7:31 AM  

Matt Lauer terminated this morning for sexual harassment. He didn’t resign. No statement from him as of yet.

Anonymous SAK November 29, 2017 7:32 AM  

I remember reading King in SI 20-30 years ago. It would have been like reading sanskrit if anything political had been mentioned

I used to love that no matter what the paper, or its politics, the sports pages were just sport.

Then suddenly, here in the UK, it became women soccer players this, black managers that, tennis gender pay gap the other. All politics and no sport.

SJWs ruined sports reporting. Hopefully someone can Fox news the buggers.

Blogger traderdoc November 29, 2017 7:43 AM  

Journalism school will save the world.
The proof of that is the wonderful results we've seen so far.

Blogger Desdichado November 29, 2017 7:43 AM  

DonReynolds wrote:Vox.....I have been fighting with these same people since the 1960s.
Believe it or not, they were around before your time too. Before the time of any Boomer, for that matter.

Anonymous Causal Lurker November 29, 2017 8:23 AM  

Sports reporters have super-duper heterodyned their virtue signals for decades, to show the J-school elites that We Carez Muchly Too! King is no surprise but a pathetic reminder of what happens when you don't write about the basics (why, what, who, where). It's insulting to the dead fish, to use this as fishwrap.

Blogger Nate November 29, 2017 8:31 AM  

hrm...

I think you have some Bucknell colored glasses on when looking at Shiano's resume mate.

UT is not Rutgers. They aren't in great shape but they won 9 games years in a row before this year. And in those years they were way better than anything Rutgers ever produced.

What UT Fan objected to was that Shiano looks a lot like a watered down version of what they just fired... Butch Jones.

And while yeah.. they are deluded if they think they are gonna get Meyer or Saban or Dabo to come there... they did offer 48 million for Gundy to come there. He turned it down... but that's a dump truck full of money and someone with a much better resume than Shiano is gonna think long and hard about all the things 50 million can do for him.

Shiano took Rutgers from nothing to something. but he hit a wall there. He couldn't take them any further. And then he humiliated himself in the NFL. He doesn't have a bad resume but the doesn't have a 50 million dollar resume.

Blogger Nate November 29, 2017 8:33 AM  

Cerno is exactly right. I called this fan revolt the GamerGate of sports.... and low and behold... the media is responding to it exactly like the media responded to Gamergate.

Blogger allyn71 November 29, 2017 8:43 AM  

nd while yeah.. they are deluded if they think they are gonna get Meyer or Saban or Dabo to come there... they did offer 48 million for Gundy to come there. He turned it down... but that's a dump truck full of money and someone with a much better resume than Shiano is gonna think long and hard about all the things 50 million can do for him.

Thing is with the way the SEC is burning through coaches (mostly because admin. aren't willing to stand up to crazed fans/donors) it isn't that attractive a job. 50 mil is a ton of cash but someone else is going to offer almost as much and you will be around long enough to negotiate a second contract.

UT shit the bed with the Schiano deal and is going to pay for it.

Blogger VD November 29, 2017 8:44 AM  

What UT Fan objected to was that Shiano looks a lot like a watered down version of what they just fired... Butch Jones.

Which is fine. But the AD knew that going in. Backing down was a massive mistake.

Anonymous Cyclone Bob November 29, 2017 8:45 AM  

Chad, I assume you didn’t spend any time in journalism school in your life. I just wish you had. Then you would see what a stupid asshole Trump truly is.

Blogger VD November 29, 2017 8:47 AM  

Then you would see what a stupid asshole Trump truly is.

I smell heresy. You will refer to the God-Emperor by his proper title in the future, heretic.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) November 29, 2017 8:52 AM  

Which is fine. But the AD knew that going in. Backing down was a massive mistake.

They didn't know 99% of the fans were going to hate this.

You can't follow through with a decision that 99% of the fan base hates.

Blogger darkdoc November 29, 2017 8:53 AM  

King's appeal to authority (journalism school) sounds exactly like a certain SJW gamma science fiction author I remember...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 29, 2017 8:56 AM  

My second thought is that King is next on the chopping block for sexual harassment accusations.

Blogger James Parliament November 29, 2017 9:00 AM  

I smell cannibis.

Blogger Dire Badger November 29, 2017 9:14 AM  

"Chad, I assume you didn’t spend any time in journalism school in your life. I just wish you had. We’re about calling it the way we see it, most of us, and about trying to report—and comment on—facts."

Doth mine eyes deceive me?
Did he really just go there?
Did he really just claim that Journalism school teaches you to be more honest? That such a school confers proof-by-authority?

Blogger VD November 29, 2017 9:14 AM  

They didn't know 99% of the fans were going to hate this.

If that's true, then the AD is incompetent and nothing is going to matter until he is gone.

Blogger Nate November 29, 2017 9:19 AM  

"Which is fine. But the AD knew that going in. Backing down was a massive mistake."

I don't know. We have a pretty massive pile of evidence that suggests this AD is a moron. Or... better put... we should say... he's Jimmy Haslam's boy.

See... the owner of the Cleveland Browns is actually UTs biggest donor and he has been controlling the coaching hires. Schiano coming up out of the blue was not the natural result of a thorough search. Haslam asked Meyer who they should hire. Meyer said "Schiano". Haslam told the AD to hire Schiano.

That is exactly what happened with the last two coaching hires and both were garbage.

So the back story here is what UT Fan is really revolting against... which is the idiot Jimmy Haslam holding their program hostage. This is a fan revolt against tyrant donors that have hijacked the program to a degree that almost no one can really believe.


Anonymous Aeoli Pera November 29, 2017 9:20 AM  

If that's true, then the AD is incompetent and nothing is going to matter until he is gone.

I believe...Anikanocracy, wasn't it?

Blogger Nate November 29, 2017 9:21 AM  

"If that's true, then the AD is incompetent and nothing is going to matter until he is gone."

incompetent. Yes. Exactly.

Blogger Nate November 29, 2017 9:23 AM  

" 50 mil is a ton of cash but someone else is going to offer almost as much and you will be around long enough to negotiate a second contract. "

There are not very many schools that can offer that kind of money. In fact there are only about 5 that can. UT is loaded with cash. Far more so than their program's performance over the last 20 years would make you believe.

Blogger Sambuca Ford November 29, 2017 9:24 AM  


The UT athletic director should've been fired yesterday. He's now the guy asking 19 girls to prom and being turned down by all of them. Yes, even the 4's and 5's.

A fun side note to the UT circus is how quickly Peyton Manning is losing face. He is being revealed as little more than a company man going along with whomever so long as his endorsement stream stays fat. Worshipped by most fans but he's always had that Caretaker of My Legacy aire to him.

Blogger Aeoli Pera November 29, 2017 9:24 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:If that's true, then the AD is incompetent and nothing is going to matter until he is gone.

I believe...Anikanocracy, wasn't it?


Although I prefer "stupidity is the final form of betrayal". Got kind of a Dragon Ball Z flavor to it.

Blogger bw November 29, 2017 9:25 AM  

the media resents the public having access to a voice of their own

Exactly. Just like the Oligarchs that own them.

Blogger dvdivx November 29, 2017 9:26 AM  

"Now, I think the decision of the Tennessee athletic director was abysmally stupid too, although I have been corrected as to the responsible parties, and it was not SJWs, but rather, deluded UT fans"

Can you help me in how to spot the difference? Too many SJW types in Seattle have dulled my ability to spot a difference any more. I need a guide on how to spot these people without triggering them and that's not easy.

Blogger tuberman November 29, 2017 9:29 AM  

VD wrote:Vox, what do you think of the "Pigman" comics? At first blush, they sound Alt-Heroish.

I think they sound a lot like what people erroneously think Alt-Hero will be. And one-note stories are seldom interesting. And I very much doubt they are fully aware of what the possible consequences will be; most people striking self-consciously brave poses don't actually believe that they will ever pay the price.


I've been on a Castilia House fiction reading binge lately, and it's like returning to good old story-telling days. Just finished "Young Man's War," and not worried about one-note stories. Top story! Will review soon.

Blogger Dire Badger November 29, 2017 9:30 AM  

dvdivx-

When in doubt, use a Gas chromatograph.

Blogger Nate November 29, 2017 9:30 AM  

"Can you help me in how to spot the difference? Too many SJW types in Seattle have dulled my ability to spot a difference any more."

the defining characteristic of the SJW is outrage.

But that does not mean that everyone that is outraged is an SJW.

Blogger Matt Robison November 29, 2017 9:50 AM  

Peter King really helped deepen my appreciation of football. He does have an astute eye and was always able to find interesting angles. His column is one of the main things I miss about not really watching football anymore.

Like most journalists though, he has a lot of the same blind spots. You saw hints of it during the Romney run.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 29, 2017 10:49 AM  

Peter King
I never want to wake up one day if something truly disastrous happens as a direct result of this president’s actions or inactions and say, “Why didn’t I say anything? Why was I silent?”

LOL! Every SJW has to pose as Pastor Niemoller sometime. It's always just a pose. Since the personal is perpetually political for SJW's they always do that Niemoller pose as part of a larger mob.

Then if anyone calls them on it, the answer is always the same:

"It's different when WE do it!".

The universal justification. It's as common as "Did God really say ?". Strange how that happens.

Blogger JRH, esq. November 29, 2017 10:53 AM  

I spent plenty of time in journalism school getting an undergraduate degree. We were told to keep our personal opinions out of the story because what we thought didn't matter to the reader.

What a cheap-assed appeal to authority.

Blogger James Dixon November 29, 2017 11:07 AM  

> There are not very many schools that can offer that kind of money. In fact there are only about 5 that can

There are probably 5 in the SEC alone. Then add in UCLA, USC, Notre Dame, Oregon, Texas, and Oklahoma as ones who could probably do so it they wanted. I'd guess there are at least a dozen.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 29, 2017 11:12 AM  

@40 VD

Viewing the AD as a complete hack & incompetent appears to have been the undercurrent to a lot of the response. Being well away from TN and not an "in the know" fan of the program, after the dust has settled, this appears to be a big issue. The AD moving to hire Schiano after being late to the party for removing the previous coach is probably what caused the furious initial response.

The AD... had an identity issue with the Fans. Then he rolled over in a couple of hours. The AD has to go.

@44 Nate

Apparently UT is the 2nd highest in gross revenue in the SEC and highest in profitability. (Yay for public records.) For whatever reason the athletic program there makes a lot of money and they have the resources. Gundy was interested even before this all blew up. The AD can get meetings, but the guy can't seem to close.

There's also that implication this was originally a back-scratch deal among the local political elites. Something else to keep in mind during the current era, and the reason for the "I say, good sir, how can you be offended?" from the media.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) November 29, 2017 11:18 AM  

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Anonymous Brick Hardslab November 29, 2017 11:54 AM  

Every journalist believes he knows better. And until recently he did. Nobody except another journalist could take the mic from him. Nobody could get through the letters column unless they said so.

It must be like that last buggy maker when everyone has already bought their second car. When you got into the business you were on top of the world. Everyone wanted and needed a buggy now even Studebaker that traitor is making cars.

People walk right by their shop and don't even look inside.

Blogger allyn71 November 29, 2017 12:09 PM  

According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, Lions offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter will not interview for the vacant Volunteers job. After firing Butch Jones, the Volunteers offered/rescinded former Bucs coach Greg Schiano, and have been turned down by Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy. Duke head coach David Cutcliffe, a former Vols assistant, has also declined to interview for the job.

This is what I have been getting at, the $ don't matter, it isn't enough. There are other places that will pay just as much or close enough to it and they are not bat-shit crazy. UT is not that good of a job and there will be another one that is better in the next year or 2 for the type of guy they are looking for. The fact that they are getting turned down by guys like Jim Bob Cooter and Guthrie speaks volumes.

The SEC is having the same issue as the NFL. Burning through coaches faster than they can develop and recruit them and getting labeled as a bad place to go. You can make as good or better money somewhere else and actually be there long enough to cash out.

Blogger Eric Slate November 29, 2017 12:35 PM  

Last time I paid attention to a coache UTK has sacked, he had a winning record that year, and had shown slight improvement for several years in a row...but he didn't beat Bama, so he had to go... That's a terrible way to choose a coach.

Blogger The Chortling November 29, 2017 1:43 PM  

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Blogger The Chortling November 29, 2017 2:33 PM  

reposted with proper link to pic.

I don't think you can let off SJWs so easily. It may have been the sheeplefan masses who carried the message but the very first pictures reported in Knoxville were "The Rock" on the UT campus. Reuters got hold of this and it went viral. Campus-based SJWs were most certainly the stokers of the fire

https://image.ibb.co/dOJoeb/schiano_accusation_on_UT.jpg

Pictured is the Rock on the University of Tennessee campus on Sunday, Nov. 26, 2017, hours after reports surfaced that the Vols were finalizing the hiring of Greg Schiano. Testimony in 2016 indicated Schiano, who worked at Penn State from 1990-95, had direct knowledge of convicted child sexual abuser Jerry Sandusky's crimes. Schiano has denied the allegations.
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Blogger Nate November 29, 2017 3:48 PM  

"Campus-based SJWs were most certainly the stokers of the fire"

wrong. You cannot even fathom how wrong you are. the campus SJWs were busy adjusting their bowties because Clay Travis was leading the revolt.

Blogger Nate November 29, 2017 3:48 PM  

also... mocking the shit out of Penn State for kiddy diddling is a southern tradition.

Blogger James Dixon November 29, 2017 4:06 PM  

> also... mocking the shit out of Penn State for kiddy diddling is a southern tradition.

It should be a tradition for anyone not a PSU grad.

Anonymous Luke November 29, 2017 5:29 PM  

Re the short time that many college sportsball coaches end up holding their jobs: why aren't those jobs tenured? They're certainly high-status enough. Think the schaedenfreude from an unfireable affirmative-action hire that presides over a major football university with 3-10 seasons, year after year after year...

Blogger Were-Puppy November 29, 2017 5:45 PM  

Maybe UT, in these dark times, should locate Ryan Leif?

Anonymous Whitened Blackfish November 29, 2017 11:25 PM  

VD wrote:you cannot accuse a man of lying before he has even said anything at all. And I will not tolerate that.

Vox Day accuses a man of lying for saying what he truly believes, and wields the banhammer to prevent him from rebutting.

Anonymous Travis Bickle November 29, 2017 11:42 PM  

Matthew Funk wrote:The stories I could tell if only I didn't comment under my real name.
So don't post those comments under your real name.  We're listening.

Anonymous Ancient Future November 30, 2017 12:06 AM  

Nate wrote:the defining characteristic of the SJW is outrage.

But that does not mean that everyone that is outraged is an SJW.

A number of soi-disant Christians here have expressed outrage at innocuous statements of disagreement.  This does appear to violate the advice to be "as wise as serpents, and as harmless as doves."

"Hypocrisy is the compliment vice pays to virtue."

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