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Monday, November 20, 2017

Merkel fails

The rise of Alternativ fur Deutschland has prevented Angela Merkel's CDU from being able to form a government:
On Monday morning, the German Chancellor emerged without agreement on forming a new coalition government from marathon talks, that promotes the chance of new elections. The leader of the AfD party gave his vision on the situation.

According to the head of Alternative for Germany (AfD) Alexander Gauland, the "time has come" for Angela Merkel to leave the post of the German chancellor, as she "failed" to form a new German coalition government.

This comes as earlier on Monday the German Free Democratic Party (FDP) announced its withdrawal from the coalition talks with the union of the Christian Democratic Union of Germany (CDU) and Christian Social Union in Bavaria (CSU), led by Merkel, and the Greens (prospective 'Jamaica coalition'). The latest set of talks broke up at 4 am local time on Friday, November 17, but the preliminary negotiations on forming a coalition started on October 18. However, disagreements over such issues as migration and climate change have prevented parties from reaching a deal.

The CDU/CSU bloc could agree to form a minority government with the Greens. If no government is formed, a new parliamentary election will have to be scheduled.
It is now incumbent upon the Germans to stop supporting the destructive pro-immigrant, pro-refugee, anti-German parties. You don't get a Hitler by evicting foreigners, you get a Hitler by permitting too many of them to live in your country.

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70 Comments:

Blogger SirMaorio November 20, 2017 11:14 AM  

one can hope they will go the way of Austria, or maybe they can import another one to lead the country ;)

Anonymous Pitcrew November 20, 2017 11:24 AM  

Hey Germans. Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

Blogger Resident Moron™ November 20, 2017 11:27 AM  

If there was any truth to the self-applied political labels, it would be the most natural thing in the world for the "centre-right" CDU and the "far right" AfD to form a coalition and tell the greens and the rest of the left to go fuck themselves.

But there isn't, and this is a key point of evidence.

Blogger tuberman November 20, 2017 11:28 AM  

Great news that Merkel is having problems, signs of the EU's decline.

Blogger haus frau November 20, 2017 11:34 AM  

What does Merkel doubling down look like? I can only assume she will refuse to step down.

Blogger Jew613 November 20, 2017 11:37 AM  

When Alexander Gauland is made Defense Minster and gives the order to drive out all the invaders regardless of age or supposed hardship, then Germany will be saved from the policies of Angela Merkel.

Anonymous normally a lurker November 20, 2017 11:39 AM  

The interesting part is that the classical liberal FDP terminated the coalition talks, not the "conservative" CSU. Having seen the political behaviour of the Greens for the last years they most likely wouldn't budge on refugee family reunification, coal plant shutdowns or a ban on combustion engines.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora November 20, 2017 11:42 AM  

That is something the civic nationalists don't understand. Neo Hitler is more likely the worse these things get. I see this understanding clearly articulate by reasonable people on /pol/ who aren't of the alt-white persuasion. Most of them got started down this road by the Cernoviches and Petersons, so thankfully the obvious spells itself for naturally reasonable people.

Blogger SDaly November 20, 2017 11:42 AM  

Why would the CDU/CSU form a minority block with the Greens, rather than the FDP? Did the FDP rule out such an arrangement?

My guess is that the CDU/CSU/FDP minority would rely upon the votes of AfD members to pass legislation (which is anathema to Merkel), while an alliance with the Greens would require support from SD's (which Merkel would find acceptable).

Blogger Lazarus November 20, 2017 11:44 AM  

haus frau wrote:What does Merkel doubling down look like?

Burning the Reichstag and blaming it on the nationalists

Anonymous Anonymous November 20, 2017 11:45 AM  

The proper term for the "green party" is really the "watermelon party".

Green outside, red inside...

Try it with your friends, it shifts the frame like the God-Emperor did by saying "Low energy Jeb" or "Crooked Hillary" each and every time...

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. November 20, 2017 11:51 AM  

Fucking Krauts...

Fucking KRAUTS!

Fucking Krauts.

Anonymous Mayonnaise November 20, 2017 11:53 AM  

"You don't get a Hitler by evicting foreigners, you get a Hitler by permitting too many of them to live in your country."

I guess that means the USA will get its own version of Hitler somewhere down the pike.

(Trump doesn't count, libtards.)

Anonymous fop November 20, 2017 11:53 AM  

Elites are wondering how in the world this could be happening when the DAX is at all time highs? Proles are only supposed to become discontented when they are hungry.

Blogger VD November 20, 2017 11:57 AM  

I guess that means the USA will get its own version of Hitler somewhere down the pike.

Perhaps. I think it will break apart first, so there may be more than one.

Anonymous krymneth November 20, 2017 12:14 PM  

I am beginning to feel twinges of pity for those who still get all their news from the MSM. One day, as they stare at the bright shiny show the MSM puts on telling them how all is well, the entire world is inevitably becoming liberal, and those racist misogynists are out there (5 minute hate them!) but really Democrats are doing great and it's only a matter of time before they are defeated once and for all, the rot will finally reach the MSM and as the stage disintegrates and disappears, the poor little MSM viewer will be left looking at what is to them the sudden appearance of an incomprehensible howling desolate landscape of failure and total loss, and they will be left asking "Where was my warning about this? What happened?"

But they won't understand the answer any more, because anybody who was hanging on to that bitter end won't be able to understand.

Suddenly, the sun went out, the Things from Beyond Time came, and The Watcher is staring at them in that way that leaves them finally aware that The Watcher Staring At Them is all they will perceive ever again.

Pity they have to be so destructive on the way out.

Anonymous Jeff November 20, 2017 12:15 PM  

the USA will get its own version of Hitler

The USA could get a very close version since a certain (((group))) has been driving multiculturalism in the USA.

Anonymous Stoa November 20, 2017 12:19 PM  

You know it’s getting serious when Morrissey calls out Merkel. It really is inevitable.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/881924/Morrissey-Angela-Merkel-Germany-immigration-migrant-crisis-crime

Blogger Jeff aka Orville November 20, 2017 12:19 PM  

@15 Das Hitlerplex subtitle "The battle of the Hitlers".

Blogger dc.sunsets November 20, 2017 12:19 PM  

I love how the Greens want MOAR immigrants. Talk about revealing their true colors....

Anonymous Holmwood November 20, 2017 12:22 PM  

VD wrote:I guess that means the USA will get its own version of Hitler somewhere down the pike.

Perhaps. I think it will break apart first, so there may be more than one.


We can always count on Vox for the optimistic view. And that actually is an optimistic view, bar the WMDs.

More seriously, Vox, do you think it possible for a country such as the US to operate successfully for centuries under 1924-style immigration laws?

i.e., what if Hart-Celler had never happened? (Obviously other policies would have to be non-destructive to the polity as well).

Thanks.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville November 20, 2017 12:22 PM  

I can just see Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta, etc. with little Hitler Mugabes.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 20, 2017 12:26 PM  

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Blogger Geir Balderson November 20, 2017 12:30 PM  

Ja! Frau Merkel wird sich in ihrem Bunker zu bücken!
Pass das Kaninchen Eintopf!

Es Auf die Russen schuld!

Blogger dc.sunsets November 20, 2017 12:32 PM  

VD wrote:I guess that means the USA will get its own version of Hitler somewhere down the pike.

Perhaps. I think it will break apart first, so there may be more than one.


Give me a competent dictator who behaves like an owner instead of a temporary caretaker (the former nurtures the capital value of "his" stuff as opposed to the latter who typically asset-strips the polity) any day of the week.

We all know democracy as practiced today utterly fails. Hoppe revealed the irrefutable rules that predict this in his "Democratic Leviathan" column.

We may not know for sure where RIGHT leads, but since LEFT is (failed) democracy, I strongly suspect that a competent dictatorship is the path to monarchy, which is as close to "privatized politics" as humanity is likely to get.

Blogger Geir Balderson November 20, 2017 12:32 PM  

"I guess that means the USA will get its own version of Hitler somewhere down the pike.

Perhaps. I think it will break apart first, so there may be more than one."

I do want to have a nice climate. I would hate to be stuck up in Minnesota!

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. November 20, 2017 12:49 PM  

I married a Kraut. I'll tell ya, fellas, the trains run on time.

Anonymous Viiidad November 20, 2017 12:58 PM  

I fear for the worst.

As an adopted (by Cherokee parents) half-Jewish half-white man married to a Korean/Black/German transgender woman with three differently-abled refugee children from three different continents, where do I fit in?

Blogger dc.sunsets November 20, 2017 1:06 PM  

Viiidad wrote:I fear for the worst.

As an adopted (by Cherokee parents) half-Jewish half-white man married to a Korean/Black/German transgender woman with three differently-abled refugee children from three different continents, where do I fit in?


I didn't think any Hollywood celebrities frequented this blog....

Blogger Chiva November 20, 2017 1:06 PM  

where do I fit in?

Not here, or anywhere.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. November 20, 2017 1:09 PM  

Being a parent is really the strangest thing, especially once they develop minds of their own and you realize, fully, that they're not just carbon copies of you but fully sentient atavisms of everything -- and everyone -- that comprises your line.

Train my boys as I have, they do not share the "Utopian" (...Utopian!) vision of the future that I -- and most here -- do.

Utopian...

From the mouths of babes.

Blogger Ransom Smith November 20, 2017 1:19 PM  

Time to harass my CSU voting relatives.

Blogger VFM #7634 November 20, 2017 1:36 PM  

If there was any truth to the self-applied political labels, it would be the most natural thing in the world for the "centre-right" CDU and the "far right" AfD to form a coalition and tell the greens and the rest of the left to go fuck themselves.

@3 Resident Moron
Case in point: that's exactly what they're doing in Austria, with Sebastian Kurz's prospective ÖVP-FPÖ government.

I'm sure many in the CDU, and especially the CSU, want to do that. But unfortunately, they're still ballless enough to keep Merkel around as their leader.

Blogger VFM #7634 November 20, 2017 1:38 PM  

I love how the Greens want MOAR immigrants. Talk about revealing their true colors....

@20 dc.sunsets
Yeah, one would think that moar dirt-world immigration would be bad for the environment. But die Wassermelonepartei doesn't actually care about the environment.

Blogger Al November 20, 2017 1:38 PM  

"You don't get a Hitler by evicting foreigners, you get a Hitler by permitting too many of them to live in your country."

Too true. Well said indeed. This must be remembered. Bumper stickers should be made of it. It should be stuck to the top of this blog. Etc etc etc....

Anonymous Jawohl November 20, 2017 2:07 PM  

It's Springtiiime for Hitlerrrr, and Germanyyyy....

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 20, 2017 2:10 PM  

@28
As an adopted (by Cherokee parents) half-Jewish half-white man married to a Korean/Black/German transgender woman with three differently-abled refugee children from three different continents, where do I fit in?

You'll just have to go back. Nothing personal.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 20, 2017 2:15 PM  

@22
I can just see Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta, etc. with little Hitler Mugabes.

94 year old Mugabe is being pushed out today or tomorrow. His wife isn't liking it, but nobody likes her and they won't put up with a Madam Mao / Evita deal. By the way, Zim still can't feed itself.

Blogger Al November 20, 2017 2:20 PM  

@28
As an adopted (by Cherokee parents) half-Jewish half-white man married to a Korean/Black/German transgender woman with three differently-abled refugee children from three different continents, where do I fit in?

O I know how you feel! As a club-footed black lesbian Rastafarian dwarf with a hunched back and a hairlip, I often feel excluded as well. Soldier on!

Anonymous BBGKB November 20, 2017 2:29 PM  

Die Dye Witch

I am beginning to feel twinges of pity for those who still get all their news from the MSM. One day, as they stare at the bright shiny show the MSM puts on telling them how all is well

You don't know the 1/2 of it, they think the recent wins by a couple of trannies means it's time to double down on tranny politics. They think 2018 will be a democrat wave.

More seriously, Vox, do you think it possible for a country such as the US to operate successfully for centuries under 1924-style immigration laws?

Don't believe TV Shoahs that have 2 brown vagina's hacking on the same keyboard saving the word from an Urgent global warming threat. It's not just (((FAKE-NEWS))) their TV shows are rewriting history of diseases like Ebola and Smallpox.

Hey jooos that write "Madame Secretary" Clinton global warming is less likely to bring long forgotten diseases to the US than black/brown people screwing animals or affirmative action CDC workers.

I didn't think any Hollywood celebrities frequented this blog....

Just wait until my "Don't Garrote Fewer Felons" show comes out.

Anonymous Darren November 20, 2017 2:51 PM  

Some of the top comments (and responses) from the NYTimes article ("Germany May Face New Elections After Coalition Talks Fail" - http://archive.is/xVbXA):

COMMENT: "This is happens when let you let hoards of immigrants swamp the culture of a country. Human beings, who value their culture and tradition, react negatively. The decision to let in $1M immigrants suddenly into Germany was an extremely poor one by Merkel, and now she's paying the price."

RESPONSE: "I would question the necessity of preserving any culture that would turn its back on 1M people fleeing for their lives."

--

COMMENT: "Perhaps to make up for the Holocaust and in imagining that the Syrians were well-educated and could fill positions in German industry, Angela Merkel invited Syrians refugees to Germany. All of Europe was overwhelmed by the onslaught of not only tens of thousands of Syrians, but also Afghans and North Africans.

It is ironic that they may have been invited it to help make amends for the Holocaust because many of the migrants are, themselves, highly intolerant of non-Muslims, and especially of Jews.

The initial description of Syrians as being well-educated turns out to apply only to some of them. The 10/16 issue of National Geographic had an article covering this subject titled “The New Europeans”. It said 15% of the refugees are illiterate, and many of the others have not been educated to German standards. Consequently, many are not ready to enter Germany’s trained labor force or even its apprenticeship programs. Germany’s Federal Labor Agency estimates that half of the refugees will not have found work after 5 years, and that 1 quarter will remain unemployed after 12 years.

Merkel’s continuing welcome of refugees, most of whom are intolerant and poorly educated, has prompted Germans to vote against her party."

RESPONSE: "My, my. We should worry about all those "uneducated" Syrians when Castro's Cuba has a higher literacy rate than the United States. Just who do we think we are that we should preach such heartless blather?"

Anonymous Amir Larijani November 20, 2017 3:00 PM  

Viiidad wrote:I fear for the worst.

As an adopted (by Cherokee parents) half-Jewish half-white man married to a Korean/Black/German transgender woman with three differently-abled refugee children from three different continents, where do I fit in?


The helicopter.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 20, 2017 3:03 PM  

Viiidad wrote:I fear for the worst.

As an adopted (by Cherokee parents) half-Jewish half-white man married to a Korean/Black/German transgender woman with three differently-abled refugee children from three different continents, where do I fit in?


Excellent ``What about meeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!11!'' post. Good, multi-generational diversity virtue signaling, good self-centeredness. Very species-ist (all human? You filthy swine!), so only 7/10.

Anonymous BBGKB November 20, 2017 3:09 PM  

Multicultural enrichment-
Having sex with dead plague born bodies is fine but needles are things to be afraid of. At least the UK mail explained how the disease is spreading.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5097415/Plague-patients-escape-afraid-needles.html

Blogger VD November 20, 2017 3:12 PM  

"I would question the necessity of preserving any culture that would turn its back on 1M people fleeing for their lives."

So anti-semitic! Why do they hate Jewish culture?

Anonymous qualitycontrol November 20, 2017 3:26 PM  

It seems that the CDU is going to double down and keep Merkel.

Even with new elections. I don't see a stable government that can lead the country for the next 4 years. Popcorn out; Weimar here we come. YES!

@32. Ransom Smith
It's telling how it wasn't the CSU that said no to a "Jamaica" coalition. I wonder if the CSU is going to replace Seehofer.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr November 20, 2017 3:51 PM  

Excuse me, but the U.S. HAD its Hitler.

His name was Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club November 20, 2017 4:28 PM  

Very species-ist (all human? You filthy swine!), so only 7/10.

If xe adopted some gay one-winged penguins, that would be an easy 10/10: no longer species-ist and now covering FOUR continents!

Anonymous Anonymous November 20, 2017 4:28 PM  

"We all know democracy as practiced today utterly fails. Hoppe revealed the irrefutable rules that predict this in his "Democratic Leviathan" column." ~dc.sunsets

That may be the best comment I have read here in a month. Thanks for that.

The State is the enemy of the people and in Democracy we may be seeing the State at its worst.

One of my favorite examples is the "Great Society" of LBJ that kicked off the welfare state we know today. Welfare has destroyed the family and may be a big part of the destruction of the Church. People come here from overseas in large part for the welfare. Hell, I would. Wouldn't you?

Build the Wall --- but first end welfare.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab November 20, 2017 5:03 PM  

As long as there is money the feds will never end welfare. If you don't have money you cannot build the wall.

Build the wall.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab November 20, 2017 5:05 PM  

I'm sorry Napoleon but the next dank memes I see with Roosevelt will be the first. Hitler and downfall will be supplying memes until they break the internet.

Blogger weka November 20, 2017 5:48 PM  

Choose where you go back to. Because we don't care.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 20, 2017 5:53 PM  

weka wrote:Choose where you go back to. Because we don't care.

If you choose now - and go now - you won't have someone else choose for you later.

Blogger Lazarus November 20, 2017 9:56 PM  

"I would question the necessity of preserving any culture that would turn its back on 1M people fleeing for their lives."

Their lives were not in danger in Turkey, where they came from.

Blogger Groggy November 20, 2017 9:58 PM  

Perhaps. I think it will break apart first, so there may be more than one.

What’s the collective noun? A gaggle of Hitlers? A smattering of Hitlers? An embarrassment of Hitlers?

Blogger Groggy November 20, 2017 10:00 PM  

Low energy Jeb

Also known as... ¡Jeb!

Blogger Groggy November 20, 2017 10:07 PM  

I would question the necessity of preserving any culture that would turn its back on 1M people fleeing for their lives.

Go to hell, traitor, where you belong. That is not your decision to make. A man makes a pact not just with the living but with his dead ancestors and those yet to be born. You have no right to turn on your people and to desrtroy your people’s heritage. If you want to destroy yourself that is your right but you have no right to sacrifice the well-being and survival of your nation. NOBODY has that right no matter how many votes you get or what power you wield.

Blogger Groggy November 20, 2017 10:15 PM  

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Blogger DonReynolds November 20, 2017 11:36 PM  

The last Hitler was not German.

He was not born in Germany and he did not grow up in Germany and he was not educated in Germany. Germany was his adopted homeland.

In fact, when Austria was annexed by Germany in 1938, there was still an outstanding warrant for the arrest of Adolph Hitler....for failing to report for the draft in Austria, during WWI.

Austria and Germany were separated from 1871 to 1938....and separated again in 1955.

There has been a tug of war between Austria and Prussia for centuries, with the Protestant North being Prussia and the Catholic South being Austria.

So Vox may be entirely correct. Germany may get another Hitler and it is just as likely that the next Hitler may not be German either.

Blogger Groggy November 21, 2017 1:00 AM  

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Blogger Groggy November 21, 2017 1:04 AM  

When are people going to understand that the state is not the same as the nation?

Blogger Groggy November 21, 2017 1:06 AM  

Did you know that Richard Dawkins is not British? He's a Kenyan in fact.
Britain is his adopted nation.

Did you know that John McCain is not American? He's a Panamanian in fact.
America is his adopted nation.

Blogger Groggy November 21, 2017 1:12 AM  

The last Hitler was not German. He was not born in Germany and he did not grow up in Germany and he was not educated in Germany. Germany was his adopted homeland.

Yes he fucking was. Hitler was ethnically German through and through.

The German nation, the German people, lived across an area well beyond the borders of the various German states which came into and out of existence, that was the whole point of trying to unite the German people into a proper nation state which included them all.

There has been a tug of war between Austria and Prussia for centuries, with the Protestant North being Prussia and the Catholic South being Austria.

What do you mean there 'has been' a tug of war? Neither the Austrian Empire nor the Kingdom of Prussia have existed for about a century, FFS.

Blogger Groggy November 21, 2017 1:24 AM  

Even today, the Austrians are still German and far more German than any Turk born and raised in Germany. In any case Austria means Eastern Realm. Eastern part of what? Germany.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 21, 2017 2:20 AM  

@53  Like the Africans that Israel is deporting.  They're going to Rwanda, no choice about it.

America's Africans, Asians and Indios/Mestizos need to be given the same non-choice.

Blogger DonReynolds November 21, 2017 3:00 AM  

Groggy wrote:Even today, the Austrians are still German and far more German than any Turk born and raised in Germany. In any case Austria means Eastern Realm. Eastern part of what? Germany.

Just to answer your question....Austria existed long before Germany. Bismark created Germany as a nation in 1870, with the Kingdom of Prussia and dozens of small principalities and dutchies.
Before there was Germany there was the Holy Roman Empire....and Austria was the Eastern Province of the Holy Roman Empire.

There seems to be a bit of confusion about what is German, what is german, and what is germanic. The German state was much more limited than ethnic germans, which was even more limited than germanic peoples. Shucks, even the British are german and English is a german language. A good many Swiss speak german but never considered themselves part of Germany.

Blogger Amy November 21, 2017 5:32 AM  

A chamber of Hitlers.

Blogger Groggy November 21, 2017 9:35 AM  

dozens of small principalities and dutchies.

Actually no - the dutchies are in Holland, I think you'll find.

Blogger Martin P. Hellwig November 21, 2017 3:43 PM  

And even Holland is separated into the North and South. Though all part of the Kingdom of the Lowlands.

Blogger Randell Gary November 22, 2017 2:38 PM  

I wonder if Merkel will lock herself in a bunker with her husband and take cyanide pills/shoot herself in the head when she inevitably gets hounded on by the people (invaders or sovereign citizen alike).

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