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Tuesday, November 07, 2017

The science fiction is settled

The SF-SJWs never learn, never change, and fail to realize that the changes in the distribution system means that their ability to play gatekeeper has ended.
You see, all this introduction about SF being about Change, and defining that change as the emergence of narcissistic navel-gazing natterings is just so that he can call anyone who doesn’t embrace that as neanderthalic bigoted throwbacks.

Instead of discussing the content and the quality of the stories, some people made derogatory comments [about] the race, gender, sexual orientation, and behaviors of other authors. These were comments that were rooted in bigotry. I should point out here that bigotry is not an expression of hatred as much as it is a demonstration of fear, insecurity, and cowardice. It’s natural to fear the unknown — real courage is embracing it.

God help me, but I’m gonna invoke Vox Day. “SJW’s Always Project.” And here’s the perfect illustration of DARVO and Gaslighting. Since the Puppies were always about the quality of the stories, and Gerrold’s side has always been about denigrating writers on the basis of their race (if white), Gender (if male), sexual orientation (if straight), etc. He’s managed to swap the sides in this statement, trying to claim the moral high ground, and in the process ceding that the other side had it. As an old white male himself, Gerrold had best tread carefully among his fellows, since he’s terribly short on intersectionality points.

And that, perhaps is the real point of this essay. One which he inadvertently makes himself, if you’re not viewing it through SJW lenses. He must maintain his cred that he’s one of them.

There’s an old Russian story about a Communist party meeting, and when the party chairman’s name is mentioned, it is required to stand and applaud his name. The clapping continues and continues, loudly and uproariously because nobody wants to be the first one to stop clapping. After ten or fifteen minutes, the audience is in agony, but nobody dares to stop out of fear. Simply put, because even though it gives everyone else the excuse to finally stop, the first to stop is never seen or heard from again.

This is the danger of playing the Virtue Signaling game. And he goes right out and illustrates this as if it were proper thinking.

Larry Niven has wisely said: Never throw shit at an armed man. Never stand next to someone who is throwing shit at an armed man. In fact, one could distill this into a much more general rule. Never throw shit. Never stand next to anyone throwing shit.

This is profoundly good advice. There has been too much shit-flinging. Monkeys are good at it, but human beings have made it an art form. Some of us enjoy shit-flinging so much that we forget we’re human beings, we become fecal trebuchets.

Now this is extraordinary advice, considering the speaker was the Master of Ceremonies at the single greatest celebration of shit flinging in the entire history of SF Fandom (One of his claims to fame in his bio at the end of the piece). This is a classic example of “Let’s stop after I get my last shot in.” Of course, on the internet, nobody gets the last word, not even me.

So again, he’s projecting his sins upon others. (Also, he missed the point of the Niven quote.)

And why? Because for the next few screens worth, he goes on and on about one single idea. “So let’s have this conversation be about remembering our essential humanity — and what we must do to preserve it. It’s this simple. If someone is throwing shit, verbal or otherwise, silence is interpreted as agreement.”

Fine, this is why I am not being silent, because he has been at the forefront of the gang denying people’s essential humanity. And this goes back to well before the Hugo Wars. He blocked me on Facebook ages ago when I took offense to one of his many (since purged) screeds about how Republicans should be put to death that came up on a liberal friend’s feed. The list of shit he’s thrown, and shit he’s been silent and complicit about is long and horrid, and I’m sure he feels smugly satisfied about every single turd.

But there’s the root of it. This is why he has to make this point calling everyone who disagrees with him in the slightest misogynist, racist, and homophobic. Because in SJW-land, you HAVE to. If you miss one Two Minutes Hate, then your silence is interpreted as agreement, and they will attack you twice as bad for being a traitor to the cause.
It is satisfying to see that more and more people are beginning to see what I was trying to tell them from the start. There is no compromising with this people. It is not possible. They cannot be fixed, and their behavior can only be influenced by force and fear. They are fundamentally damaged and their behavior is driven by internal processes rather than reactions to external influences, so one can no more talk sense into an SJW than one can convince a person with tuberculosis to stop coughing.

And is there a word that male SF-SJWs love more than "fecal"? It's a dead tell.

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50 Comments:

Blogger Shimshon November 07, 2017 5:04 AM  

"And at this point, we can see where the train leaves the tracks..."

Gerrold's train is not fine.

Anonymous Charlottesvillain November 07, 2017 5:09 AM  

"They are fundamentally damaged and their behavior is driven by internal processes rather than reactions to external influences"

Yup. Reality and empiricism are alien to them. As are reasonable agreements and meaningful debate.

I looked up this Gerrold character. Interesting that his surname at birth was Friedman.

Blogger Phat Repat November 07, 2017 5:10 AM  

It's all about the feelz man; don't you dig? Of course not, you're too privileged to understand; we must take everything from you and then you'll get it. For realz.

Blogger tublecane November 07, 2017 5:40 AM  

"It's natural to fear the unknown..."

Yeah.

"...real courage is embracing it."

Real courage is jumping into canyons. You're not allowed to use prior knowledge of the effects of canyon-jumping. Just do it!

Embracing the unknown? What if the unknown turns out to be racist? Then what do you do?

See, they imagine themselves controlling the effects of change. Or at least having the upper hand in the endless flux. Change is a tool in a sense. It leaves potential opposition vulnerable, and, you know, in crisis lies opportunity.

Anonymous vfm November 07, 2017 5:56 AM  

OT -

An antagonist for Alt-Hero. "By day Ben Shlomo works as an underrecognized article writer for the World CONservative Daily (WCD) by night Shlomo transforms in Gamma Boy!

Anonymous Man of the Atom November 07, 2017 5:58 AM  

Gerrold is *still* triggered that someone, somewhere might have different mores, ethics, politics, and entertainment tastes than he has. It seems he lives in an envelope of fear. So sad.

And, David obviously wants to be featured prominently in SJWs Always Project. He's building plenty of early fodder for Vox to sift and sort.

Blogger Lovekraft November 07, 2017 6:01 AM  

Somewhat OT, but here's another feather in VoxDay's cap:

Takimag article mentioning him and his book "SJWs Always Lie", calling it 'a masterpiece.'

http://takimag.com/article/jimmy_toback_warren_beatty_and_a_whole_lotta_tuchus_spielman#axzz4xk4vZzGa

Blogger tublecane November 07, 2017 6:10 AM  

I despise that "God help me, but I'm gonna invoke Vox Day" guff. It's so weak. Just invoke him. People invoke Marx and even Hitler without doing the "ugh, I hate to do it, but I'm gonna bite the bullet" dance. If they happen to agree with one of their points.

I stopped caring about being seen with the cool crowd of "public intellectuals" when I was like 17.

Blogger GithYankee November 07, 2017 6:22 AM  

These SFWA, science fiction SJWAL posts are my favorite. My original red pill!! Thanks Vox - who knew fighting back against the romance writers of SFWA would result in so much change, so fast.

Nick Cole now dominates the Amazon sales charts, and the Hugo's have all the influence of the Tiptree.

Blogger tublecane November 07, 2017 6:23 AM  

I didn't know that Tobak fella was behind the Pick-Up Artist. Not a good movie, but it has a tour-de-force opening with Robert Downey, Jr. spitting game at random passersby while a Phil Spector tune plays. I don't know how much technique he has. He basically rushed through generic canned material until women either reject him or sleep with him to shut him up.

Anyway, I remember it being thrilling when I saw it as a kid, but then the movie just falls apart when he actually starts to build a relationship with Molly Ringwald. Which is only a few minutes in, I think.

Which may suggest he's a shallow person, if it was autobiographical.

Blogger VD November 07, 2017 6:40 AM  

I despise that "God help me, but I'm gonna invoke Vox Day" guff. It's so weak. Just invoke him.

See, I love it. It is testimony to the power of the ideas.

Blogger Ron November 07, 2017 6:42 AM  

And is there a word that male SF-SJWs love more than "fecal"? It's a dead tell.

Jordan Peterson said in one of his videos that tye same parts of the brain that get activated for alarm are the same ones that get activated for vulgarity.

Which would explain why cowards and soldiers both tend to vulgarity.

Anonymous Athor Pel November 07, 2017 6:56 AM  

"2. Anonymous Charlottesvillain November 07, 2017 5:09 AM
...
I looked up this Gerrold character. Interesting that his surname at birth was Friedman.



You don't see other ethnic groups changing their family name. It's almost like they're ashamed of who they are.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 07, 2017 6:59 AM  

You gotta give Gerrold credit.

He made an entire career out one episode of a tv show Trek from a half century ago.

That's a long time to stretch out your one honest paycheck... Okay not that honest, the Tribbles are a complete ripoff of Heinlein's Flatcats.

Although he did come up with probably the only gay Klingon in the history of Star Trek. So again, props!

Blogger Bies Podkrakowski November 07, 2017 7:02 AM  

"It’s natural to fear the unknown — real courage is embracing it."

I thought that people who did that were culled from the gene pool long ago.

Ugh the Caveman: "Something is making strange sounds in this cave! Lets embrace it!"

Kitty the Smilodon: "Rawrr".

Blogger SouthRon November 07, 2017 7:02 AM  

Well, other Ron, since SJW's always project, we know two things are true. One, they hate having shit or shade thrown at them or their shitty work. Two, they are the ones throwing shit and utter bullshit at others. And a bonus three, they stand by their own and support them while they throw shit.

Blogger Lazarus November 07, 2017 7:04 AM  

Athor Pel wrote:You don't see other ethnic groups changing their family name. It's almost like they're ashamed of who they are.

Jewish people use the term "self-hating Jew". You know, like Karl Marx.

Blogger Lazarus November 07, 2017 7:07 AM  

It’s natural to fear the unknown — real courage is embracing it.

Weinstein's pick up line

Blogger The Observer November 07, 2017 7:17 AM  

OT: For those of you who have contacted Freestartr support in the past, how long did it take them to get back to you? I had an issue with my card that would have prevented them from charging it properly for the Alt-Hero campaign, and got it sorted with my bank today before shooting off an email to Freestartr support letting it know it was cleared up.

I know I shouldn't press for a response, but I'm the kind who tends to fret easily, it runs in the family.

Blogger SouthRon November 07, 2017 7:17 AM  

Speaking of SF-SJW cooraphilia, here's a beautiful "Shut up Wesley" meme of POTUS clocking @wilw right in the mouth over his comments against God about the Texas shooting. Scroll up for the original tweet, and yep, dirty Willy invokes shit against God. Something tells me his tweet will be replayed when he prays for mercy at the judgment seat.

Anonymous Avalanche November 07, 2017 7:24 AM  

OP: "So let's have this conversation be about remembering our essential humanity — and what we must do to preserve it. It's this simple. If someone is throwing shit, verbal or otherwise, silence is interpreted as agreement."

"And to avoid your silence being taken AS agreement -- throw shit back."

Yup, he's clear as ... shit....

Blogger VD November 07, 2017 7:25 AM  

I know I shouldn't press for a response, but I'm the kind who tends to fret easily, it runs in the family.

No, especially since it is 4:30 AM their time. Just chill. They'll get back to you when they do.

Anonymous Avalanche November 07, 2017 7:29 AM  

@6 "And, David obviously wants to be featured prominently in SJWs Always Project. He's building plenty of early fodder for Vox to sift and sort."

Uh, that ain't "fodder" ('cept for flies and roaches)! I hope the Dark Lord has a couple boxes of surgical gloves.... cause eeeewwwwww!

Blogger Dire Badger November 07, 2017 7:30 AM  

The new 'Discovery' is just repackaged Diversity Porn.

Like anyone couldn't have guessed.

Anonymous Athor Pel November 07, 2017 7:35 AM  

"17. Blogger Lazarus November 07, 2017 7:04 AM
...
Jewish people use the term "self-hating Jew". You know, like Karl Marx.



Getting other races to self hate is making a little more sense now.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 07, 2017 7:37 AM  

"God help me, but I’m gonna invoke Vox Day."

I think the redundancy is cute. It would make a nice t-shirt...

Blogger Jeff aka Orville November 07, 2017 7:48 AM  

They fling poo, we power blast them with the hose from a septic tank cleaner. But really, Nick Cole is the model. Beating them like Rand Paul in the market place and essentially reducing them to fanfic producers with conventions at the local flea market.

Blogger Resident Moron™ November 07, 2017 8:01 AM  

I’m still a fan of the late great Robert L Kocher:

Fear of messing with you is the only thing some people understand.

Anonymous Avalanche November 07, 2017 8:33 AM  

@19 "OT: For those of you who have contacted Freestartr support in the past, how long did it take them to get back to you?"

They haven't gotten back to me yet either. My three paperback omnibuses have shown up at my CC company as 'recurring' purchases. (I love Alt*Hero, but not that much!) However, the CC website states that the 'recurring status may not be reflected accurately on the website' -- that is, that FreeStartr inadvertently shows up as recurring but actually isn't. I didn't want to 'put FreeStartr on report' with the CC co. first, so am waiting to hear back. (Will address with CC co' if it does show up as recurring later this month!

But then -- I'm sure they're trying to dig out from under nearly the $250,000 in pledges(!!YAY!!) they were not expecting to have to handle on only their 3rd or 4th campaign ever!

Blogger Brad Matthews November 07, 2017 8:39 AM  

After invocation, did Voxymort appear in the bathroom mirror?

Blogger The Observer November 07, 2017 8:39 AM  

No, especially since it is 4:30 AM their time. Just chill. They'll get back to you when they do.

Right, forgive me for taking this off-topic. I'll sit down and take a breather, then.

Anonymous CoolHand November 07, 2017 9:20 AM  

Avalanche wrote:My three paperback omnibuses have shown up at my CC company as 'recurring' purchases.

Mine did too.

I'm not gonna sweat it too much until a duplicate charge shows up.

Blogger Junius Stone November 07, 2017 9:27 AM  

Blocking those who take exception to Gerrold's "DEATH TO REPUBLICANS!!!" bigotry must be the dude's thing. Because he did the same to me on Facebook. Guy can't stand anything less than prone obsequiousness in his direction.

Blogger lowercaseb November 07, 2017 9:40 AM  

Man, I should read more of this Dr. Mauser fellow. He definitely can turn a phrase...

As a footnote, “Burge’s Law of Institutional Liberalization” is the name I’ve coined for a meme that has been going around for quite a while in conservative circles, originally posted to Twitter by Iowahawk, David Burge. It goes:
1. Identify a respected institution.
2. Kill it.
3. Gut it.
4. Wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 07, 2017 9:47 AM  

The rage of the white male leftist, that could be fed back into their social circles. Imagine the shit sandwiches white males of the left are made to eat just be at the dinner party. No wonder when a massacre happens these days we can profile the killer even before the ricochets hit the ground.

Blogger Phelps November 07, 2017 10:48 AM  

And is there a word that male SF-SJWs love more than "fecal"? It's a dead tell.

It's a tell for liberals in general. One of the biggest predictors of liberalism in sociology is a lack of or a broken disgust factor, especially animal reminders (things that remind us that we are meat sacks, like blood, poop, semen, etc.)

People on the right experience actual, physiological disgust at disease vectors like faeces, urine, gay sex, etc. The left simply doesn't, and therefore finds out reactions fascinating and learns to lean on them for shock value.

This sort of visceral disgust is rooted in the amygdala, and it just another sign pointing to Anonymous Conservative's theory that liberals are people with broken amygdalae.

Anonymous KPP November 07, 2017 11:28 AM  

I began reading Gerrold's "The War Against the Chtorr" series back in the 80's and found it interesting and engaging.

Until he introduced pedophilia between the protagonist and a young orphan he was caring for.

And had the authorities in the book encouraging it.

Suffice to say, I put the book down and that was the last I ever read of David Gerrold.

Blogger daddynichol November 07, 2017 11:38 AM  

Even the vaunted ACLU was put on notice they're going to be moved to the back of the bus.

Anonymous GregMan November 07, 2017 12:18 PM  

"There’s an old Russian story about a Communist party meeting, and when the party chairman’s name is mentioned, it is required to stand and applaud his name."

Solzhenitsyn recounts this story in his masterpiece GULAG Archipelago. The audience was applauding a mention of Stalin's name, and the person who stopped clapping was arrested the next day. During his interrogation he was told, "Don't ever be the first to stop clapping".

Blogger dc.sunsets November 07, 2017 12:54 PM  

I can't tell if Leftist loons were trained this way by a lifetime of exposure to some sort of fashionable foolishness, or if their behavior is Exhibit 1 for the theory that deleterious mutations are building up among First World peoples after five or six generations of pushing Nature's normal culling into abeyance. Leftism might literally be a mutant mind.

If the former, even zealous Left-cultists might "recover" under the tutelage of hard times, but if it's the latter, there will be but one way for Nature to deal with them...each and every one of them.

Blogger Migly November 07, 2017 1:12 PM  

So Mauser didn't allow a pingback from Vox Popoli either?

Anonymous BBGKB November 07, 2017 1:12 PM  

Larry Niven has wisely said: Never throw shit at an armed man. Never stand next to someone who is throwing shit at an armed man

How about never touch shit with your bare hands & never eat food cooked by a wetback.

Blogger VD November 07, 2017 1:18 PM  

So Mauser didn't allow a pingback from Vox Popoli either?

Don't know. Don't care. I have no idea who he is, I just thought his "eek, a quote" routine was amusing.

Blogger DonReynolds November 07, 2017 1:30 PM  

I know almost nothing about SF and I would not quibble if anyone thought my almost was really nothing too. But I will always agree with Vox, and anyone else, when they say it is not possible to compromise with SJWs....or reason with them, or bother them with historical facts, or what the law actually requires. None of that matters to SJWs. All that matters is their silly demands, which are goal posts on wheels.

Give them an inch? Naaah....go ahead and give them half a loaf and they will immediately start yelling for your half too. It simply is not possible to make a bargain with SJWs because they will never, ever keep their end of the bargain. They are the ultimate in bad credit risks and their oath means nothing. These are the savages and barbarians, without any pretense of nobility.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club November 07, 2017 3:42 PM  

Pretty obvious that someone is obsessed with having a feces war in a sexual haze. The coprophile doth protest too much.

Anonymous Sidehill Dodger November 07, 2017 6:53 PM  

KPP wrote:I began reading Gerrold's "The War Against the Chtorr" series back in the 80's and found it interesting and engaging.

Until he introduced pedophilia between the protagonist and a young orphan he was caring for.

And had the authorities in the book encouraging it.


The first (and only) book I read by Gerrold was The Man Who Folded Himself. I think this might have been his first novel, but I can't be bothered to research and find out.

Plot summary:
1) Hero invents time machine
2) Hero realizes that he can use time machine to arrange massive meetings of just himself (jump from times A, B, C, D... and meet up a time Z).
3) Hero discovers his own charismatic qualities, and falls in love. With himself. Massive pants drop and orgy ensues. With...himselves.

Ach du lieber... The wince factor generated by this narcissistic, homoerotic, autoeroticism was truly off the scales. Presumably, this is the SF Con of the author's wish fulfillment dreams.

But wait! Where's muh diversity???

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 07, 2017 7:15 PM  

Ok, let's go look. (((David Jerrold Friedman))) also known as David Gerrold born 1944.

Books:
When Harlie was one 1972 self aware computer
Man who folded himself 1973.

Any surprises here?

Anonymous Anonymous November 07, 2017 9:03 PM  

Most gratified for the hits! Must number over a thousand today. Second only to Instapundit. Vile770 has generated.... one.

"God help me" was really just a cute rhetorical device.

As for pingbacks, I don't know why they didn't show up, since they're automatic (Wordpress delenda est) OTOH, probably a good thing, because looking at the referrers, virtually every single mirror of this blog has generated hits, and it would be an overwhelming number.

GregMan, thanks for the source! Prety sure someone was quoting from that when I heard of it.

lowercaseb thank you for the compliment. I'm not a fast blogger, I write these more or less quarterly, but I try very hard to make them count.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope November 08, 2017 12:58 AM  

I am now very grateful that I was never able to get a copy of "The Man Who Folded Himself" from the library. Sounds absolutely disgusting.

His War Against the Chtorr series will never finish. Judging by the declining quality of the story and the increasing gamma behavior of the main character (who was also becoming a pedophile), it was going to be awful anyway.

He chose cool titles for the books in the series, though.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 08, 2017 9:20 AM  

Sidehill Dodger wrote:The first (and only) book I read by Gerrold was The Man Who Folded Himself.
"The Flying Sorcerors" by Niven and Gerrold is a hilarious poke at SF fandom, and has become hilariously non-PC as the left got crazier.  You can't write a book with the words "We went home and beat our wives" today.

I read "When Harlie Was One" long ago, can't remember anything about it.  "The Adolescence of P-1" stands out.

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