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Sunday, December 10, 2017

Alpha Game lives

Longtime reader Lee Jackson has agreed to keep Alpha Game running. He'll be focusing more on Game as it relates to society and he put up his first post there today. It's a good one, and highly relevant this Christmas season.
Birthday parties and cake-smeared faces. Bath time. Halloween candy pig-outs.

On social media you'll see any number of posts featuring friends showing off their cute (and often not-so-cute) children. We've seen YouTubers with massive vlogs where their children's daily lives are exposed for the entirety of the world to see.

Vox has of course warned against doing this, though many still fall prey to the temptation to show off our families. It's natural to take pride in our kids, but frankly, it's stupid to put their lives on the internet.

And not just because of predators and perverts.
I could not agree more. Keep your kids, pictures of your kids, and stories of your kids OFF THE INTERNET. One of the greatest gifts you can give your children in today's world is a clean slate as an adult.

Allow them to publicly define themselves as something other than an adjunctory decoration to your life.

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Blogger Cataline Sergius December 10, 2017 8:52 AM  

When the history of the Alt Right is written...by us naturally...it's origins will make for fascinating reading.

Gen-Xer Libertarians who "got mugged by reality.

Gamers who just wanted to play games without politics. Got told they must submit to SJWism. And didn't.

Christians who tired of getting sermons about, "Mother Jesus."

And Millennial pick up artists, who refused to repeat the Big Lies of feminism.



Blogger Nate Winchester December 10, 2017 8:58 AM  

Sometimes the pics are for distant parts of the family so you know how loved ones are doing instead of finding out at christmas. Would be better if the family could set the posts to private but not everybody thinks of that.

Anonymous Avalanche December 10, 2017 9:07 AM  

@2 "if the family could set the posts to private but not everybody thinks of that."

So tell them! Write out (or copy) a set of directions, and HELP them protect their babes.

Blogger YIH December 10, 2017 9:12 AM  

Keep your kids, pictures of your kids, and stories of your kids OFF THE INTERNET.
Abso-freakin-loutely! I've said before when your kid is 4 or 5 get them an el-cheapo 'burner' phone - without a camera. Easy to replace if lost, stolen, or destroyed, plus if you got a kid that likes yakking on the phone to friends, you can use prepaid cards to ration the airtime. When they get old enough to earn up the money for iCrap, then they may be ready for one. And the other aspect of keeping kids off the 'net is don't let them use a computer at home unsupervised, sure 'net nanny' software can help, but it can be circumvented. And we all the there is stuff on the 'net that you don't want your kids seeing, or that matter, yourself it can avoid it.

Blogger Nate Winchester December 10, 2017 9:16 AM  

@3 Yeah, no shit. As the family's IT guy, who do you think is regularly doing that?

Blogger YIH December 10, 2017 9:17 AM  

Nate Winchester wrote:Sometimes the pics are for distant parts of the family so you know how loved ones are doing instead of finding out at christmas. Would be better if the family could set the posts to private but not everybody thinks of that.
Go old school, photos, snail mail, still works.

Anonymous Kat December 10, 2017 9:19 AM  

There are things called text messages, private blogs (ok, yes. How private is anything on the internet period?), e-mails, etc. Kid pictures stay OFF fb. It's not that hard.

I've occasionally talked about teething or quoted a toddler, but my kids lives are not public.

Anonymous JAG December 10, 2017 9:20 AM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:When the history of the Alt Right is written...by us naturally...it's origins will make for fascinating reading.

Gen-Xer Libertarians who "got mugged by reality.

Gamers who just wanted to play games without politics. Got told they must submit to SJWism. And didn't.

Christians who tired of getting sermons about, "Mother Jesus."

And Millennial pick up artists, who refused to repeat the Big Lies of feminism.



Obamacare Individual Mandate Wallet Slaves.

GenZ refugees from Michelle Obama's school lunch program.

The Obama family just might hold the record for the most red pills taken in response to them.

Blogger Ransom Smith December 10, 2017 9:35 AM  

Fujifilm makes a Polaroid style camera.
It's on sale all the time at Costco.

Blogger Curlytop December 10, 2017 9:35 AM  

Texting pics to a group of family members isn't hard.

Raising teenagers is tough enough w/o compounding the matter by breaking their trust w you bc you have to attention whore on FB. I see this as a bigger problem w women who gripe and gossip openly online. It's flagrant attention whoring at the expense of their kids. If you posted it, your kids and their friends will see it.

The added bonus is the psychological effects of having a camera phone snapping shots of every thing they do. You think Millenials are narcissists and snowflakes? Think about how awful the kids from the self-proclaimed "Selfie" generation are going to be...

Blogger VD December 10, 2017 9:42 AM  

Sometimes the pics are for distant parts of the family so you know how loved ones are doing instead of finding out at christmas. Would be better if the family could set the posts to private but not everybody thinks of that.

So the fuck what? Do you think literally everyone else isn't in that position too?

"Sorry to have violated your childhood and put you on display, Sally, but as you know, Grandma lived two states away."

Anonymous Looking Glass December 10, 2017 9:52 AM  

@8 JAG

There's an entire 10-year bracket of Americans that "Leftism gives you School Lunch" will be a brutal rhetorical point for. School lunch is never anything to write home about, but Michelle ruined it for so many students.

It's one of those shared cultural experiences that tied to a very small chunk of time, but it's only going away around 2110 when they're all dead.

Blogger BlowMe December 10, 2017 10:01 AM  

A pleasant and unexpected surprise for my Sunday morning reading.

The Alpha Game archives are all accessible too.

Thank you, Vox and Lee.


Anonymous John Podesta December 10, 2017 10:09 AM  

There is nothing wrong with posting pictures of your kids or your neighbors enjoying them.

Anonymous Jeff December 10, 2017 10:16 AM  

(((neighbors)))

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 10, 2017 10:17 AM  

And of course there's this that is a whole order of magnitude (or two) worse: those who use their kids as props to get laughs from their "friends" by posting vids of them playing practical jokes on their kids (sometimes bordering on downright cruel).

I don't spend time on FB, but I've seen enough of these (and heard of more) to know it's a significant "thing." It's despicable.

Of course the response to any criticism is usually some form of, "Don't be so uptight, man."

Blogger Nate December 10, 2017 10:27 AM  

***yawn***

This is ridiculous. You can no more keep your kids off the I termed in 2017 than you can keep the internet away from your kids.

By all means be smart about it. But when public school requires internet and they are expected to have smart phones by the school system then the battle is well and thoroughly lost.

Blogger Ian Miguel Martin December 10, 2017 10:33 AM  

I will always be thankful for having reached adulthood before the advent of social media. What happened in 8th grade stays in 8th grade.

Anonymous Stickwick December 10, 2017 10:37 AM  

I have a colleague who blogs about her children in painful and embarrassing detail and with photos. It's supposed to be endearing -- she's a skilled writer and some of the stories are cute -- but mostly the reader comes away with the impression that she and her husband are overwhelmed by out-of-control children with emotional problems, including one who at ten years old was threatening suicide and has to go to therapy. Which I only know because she blogs about it.

How are these kids going to feel about this exposure when they're older? How do they feel about it now, if they know? Years of intimate details and photos are on this blog. She doesn't use their last names, and I think she thinks this makes it anonymous, because she was taken aback when I told her how I'd stumbled on her blog and recognized everybody.

The blog comes across like a form of therapy for her, or a way to absolve herself of the feeling that she and her husband are failing badly. Look at my wacky life! Isn't it cute and cleverly written? Everyone with kids and careers experiences this, right? Right?

But it's not cute, it's exploitative and irresponsible. I wouldn't be surprised if her kids end up resenting her to the point of cutting her off when they're old enough to realize what she's done to them.

Blogger Shimshon December 10, 2017 10:38 AM  

@17 Nate, there are schools that require kids to have smart phones?! I look forward to the day that all technology is banished from the education of minors. It will hopefully seem an odd and incredibly destructive fetish to the our descendants. I live and breath computers and have done so for decades (I had one dishing out table assignments at my Bar Mitzvah party in 1979, so I think I have some credibility here) but I have NEVER gotten the obsession with computers in schools in any context but to teach how to program or use them. Well, I do get it, but they have nothing to do with actual education.

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 10, 2017 10:49 AM  

Shimshon wrote:I have NEVER gotten the obsession with computers in schools

Many things drive this. Among others:
- Cargo cult beliefs
- Too much money to spend and conflicts of interest AKA corruption.
- And of course a completely misguided notion of what should constitute a child's education.

Blogger Curlytop December 10, 2017 11:09 AM  

One public school in our area has reversed their cell phone/technology position and banned them during school hours this current school year. Others are contemplating doing the same. Several private schools have strict guidelines as well.

2nd: Computers in schools are all about keeping parents out of the loop on the content of curriculum and monitoring student activity on and off campus.

3rd: it is well-known in our area that most of these kids are out in front of computers all day with little teaching done. Teachers are merely crowd control wardens.

Anonymous Killua December 10, 2017 11:23 AM  

Totally agree. Steve Pavlina has a great post about it here: https://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2011/04/do-you-have-the-right-to-put-your-childrens-lives-online/

As separate individuals, children should be free to determine their own level of engagement with respect to what they share online and what they’d rather keep private. As youngsters, however, they aren’t old enough to understand the long-term consequences of their choices, so they aren’t prepared to make such a big decision just yet.

With all the power kids have to share details online these days, I think many of them are setting themselves up for consequences they may not like. Will the university admissions officer like what s/he sees upon checking out your Facebook page? What could someone learn about you by using the Internet archive? I think it’s best to assume that the Internet has no delete button. Assume that everything you post online is public, permanent, and personally identifiable.


Blogger Nate Winchester December 10, 2017 11:35 AM  

Gee it's almost like there's an opportunity for a competing social network platform that could harmonize the conflicting needs.

But whatever, better to get your sermon on than risk opportunity it seems.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 10, 2017 11:39 AM  

When computers came in, they were the "hot new thing that adults don't understand" because they were. Those were the fun days. No one had a clue what we were up to.

Now? They exist to be distract the students since post-1930s education has been about wasting time not educating. (It used to work better because everyone was still operating from old cultural approaches.) They are there for shiny pictures, students aren't learning anything from them.

Cellphones, and smart phones, are almost wholly used for either diversion activities (games) or as high-speed, wireless Telegraphs. 150 years of technology development and we're still mostly just using faster versions of telegraph lines. The most a child needs in a cellphone is the ability to call 911, family and a GPS tracking for the family. Those are the actual utility that's of use. Nothing else.

Fun part about being an early adopter is spending too much time trying to troubleshoot problems no one else has. (Hey, exclusivity comes with benefits, haha.) The funny part is watching people spend too much money, after you told them not to, on products that aren't really going to help much.

Side point: Do not buy into the Internet of Things (IoT) hype. They're mostly evil products. The only slightly useful place is in remote security, but you better have those cameras on a second network/internet connection. And only go that way if you expect to be out of the home for extended periods of time. Those devices are *not* secure. At all. So don't allow Mics & Cameras into your home like that.

Blogger Michael Maier December 10, 2017 12:05 PM  

I am glad to see ALPHA GAME continue in some way. I really wish I'd re-read the archives as a primer for diving back into the dating pool earlier this year.

I re-learned some harsh lessons that I could have avoided by a few hours of reading and reminiscing.

Blogger VD December 10, 2017 12:17 PM  

Gee it's almost like there's an opportunity for a competing social network platform that could harmonize the conflicting needs. But whatever, better to get your sermon on than risk opportunity it seems.

Sure, I'll drop everything I'm doing with Infogalactic, Voxiversity, Castalia, and Alt-Hero just to create a new social media platform for people who are either too stupid or too indifferent to not advertise their children to the world.

They're sure to switch in the millions from Facebook and Twitter for something they don't care about, right?

Blogger Mastermind December 10, 2017 12:20 PM  

I had to repeatedly threaten my mom with a lawsuit before she'd remove pics of me from her FB account and I'm a grown adult. She even tried to hide the fact that she put my pics there at first. I feel bad for her since virtually all women engage in this obnoxious habit and I know she just wants to compete but I don't want an online footprint and I'm not willing to give that up just for some status signalling.

Anonymous BBGKB December 10, 2017 12:22 PM  

OT:CA governor blames TRUMP for wrath of god
"California Governor Says Trump Is Courting The 'Wrath Of God' By Ignoring Climate Change"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-governor-says-trump-courting-044753645.html

Blogger Elder Son December 10, 2017 12:31 PM  

Literally being plugged in, is in your children's future. It is, the internet of things. And genetic modification.

You can go to Sky Watch TV: http://www.skywatchtv.com/ and scroll through the archives, hit the links, and read all about it. You techno-geeks should be aware of this.

As we speak.

You shall be as gods.

To them who are not plugged in.

Blogger Elder Son December 10, 2017 12:33 PM  

@29 Gov. Moon Beam is a Jesuit. So is the Pope.

Blogger HalibetLector December 10, 2017 12:37 PM  

Nate Winchester wrote:Gee it's almost like there's an opportunity for a competing social network platform that could harmonize the conflicting needs.

But whatever, better to get your sermon on than risk opportunity it seems.


Several already exist. Nobody uses them, not even my extended family, who are all very, very careful about not letting pictures of their kids hit the open internet. They use dropbox[0].

[0]: Yes, I'm aware dropbox is not "secure". Nobody cares.

Blogger James Dixon December 10, 2017 12:39 PM  

Well, there's only one thing to say about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VkrUG3OrPc

Blogger Timmy3 December 10, 2017 12:39 PM  

The site is good reading. Nothing new for several months.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 10, 2017 12:48 PM  

Strong debut.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 10, 2017 1:07 PM  

It seems like a tricky problem to me. Children are such a source of joy and fulfillment to a mother. She naturally wants to share that with her friends and family. That's all natural and good. But social media today invites the world to watch along, and that is bad as Vox rightly observes. There's a tricky conversation that needs to be had with her. Sucks, but it needs to happen in cases. Set up better more private channels for your wife to express herself this way. Maybe that's even a great business opportunity if you can produce such a thing.

Anonymous Killua December 10, 2017 1:28 PM  

Set up better more private channels for your wife to express herself this way. Maybe that's even a great business opportunity if you can produce such a thing.

The social media platforms market is already oversaturated enough as it is. Google+ tried to solve the problem you are talking about with "circles" (some content you could make public, other you would share it only with family, other content only with work colleagues, and so on)

It still failed. Google+ was a failure. The social media platform market is just too hard to get into ATM.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 10, 2017 1:34 PM  

Killua wrote:It still failed. Google+ was a failure. The social media platform market is just too hard to get into ATM.

Maybe you're right. We resort to the "old-fashioned" way -- using a printer, a family newsletter, and snail mail. Lots to be said for that.

It is a huge problem if you've got an atomized family as most Americans seem to have these days. I've got relatives all over the cotton-picking world. A large and disintegrating disbursed family. Our women on social media have become a key part of keeping it as close as it has been able to remain. And my printer.

Blogger Elder Son December 10, 2017 1:37 PM  

Speaking of Tom Hanks: The Circle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUlr8Am4zQ0

Rent the movie. Fits right in with the topic.

Here we are. Imagine where your children will be.

Blogger Nakota Publishing December 10, 2017 1:46 PM  

Personally I think Christopher Robin was a snowflake who needed to get over it.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr December 10, 2017 3:08 PM  

In this, I agree with Vox. There are too many parents who splash every bit of Little Johnny's life over Facebook and YouTube...with no protections whatsoever.

WRT social media in general, it's best to keep your privacy settings high, and your postings few. And never post anything you would not say in person.

Blogger Thucydides December 10, 2017 3:32 PM  

Used to be you could reinvent yourself by simply moving far enough away that no one knew you, and you could simply start afresh with no expectations, preconceived notions or past associations clinging to you. I did this back in the 1980's (didn't have to change my name or anything like that, simply move to a different Canadian Province). Started doing what I liked because it was interesting to me and no one telling me my choices were wrong or "not cool" or I'd be associated with "x" or whatever. And of course this built ew associations, new friendships and opened new panoramas and opportunities for me.

Today, unless there is some way to nuke your social media or internet presence, you will never get that opportunity if you want to start fresh, even if you move halfway around the world. Children will have it worse, since they have no choice in the matter, and by the time they do understand what has happened to them, it will be far too late (years or a decade late....). I feel very sad for this generation.

Blogger WATYF December 10, 2017 4:17 PM  

Someone will have to explain how "posting a pic of your kid on facebook so the Grandparents can see it" is in any way related to "creating a hugely popular character based on your child so they can't go anywhere as an adult without someone treating them like that character".

I can assure you, not one single person in 50 years will be walking up to my kid and saying, "Hey, aren't you that guy whose mom posted a family picture at Christmas time way back in 2017?"

WATYF

Blogger VFM #7634 December 10, 2017 4:22 PM  

I don't know how a post about not publicizing your children is relevant to sociosexuality -- it was a minor letdown. But we'll see what else he writes about.

Anonymous Chris December 10, 2017 4:53 PM  

Denying children their privacy is a recipe for disaster. Parents KNOW that children are cruel to each other so why make it easier? The last three generations are easily the most thoughtless in our nation's history.

Blogger CM December 10, 2017 7:10 PM  

I was never very prolific in my sharing of my kids (always hated facebook and barely did Twitter).

I would share some Toddler quips and some pictures every so often, but Box's warnings on this disenchanted me.

I slowly stopped posting anything to the point where my 2 year old doesn't have an internet history outside announcing his birth.

I gave up facebook and might consider doing the snail mail thing.

Anonymous JAG December 10, 2017 9:16 PM  

BBGKB wrote:OT:CA governor blames TRUMP for wrath of god

"California Governor Says Trump Is Courting The 'Wrath Of God' By Ignoring Climate Change"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-governor-says-trump-courting-044753645.html


It's cute when Satanists try to warn good men about the wrath of God.

Blogger Harambe December 11, 2017 2:00 AM  

Duke Norfolk wrote:And of course there's this that is a whole order of magnitude (or two) worse: those who use their kids as props to get laughs from their "friends" by posting vids of them playing practical jokes on their kids (sometimes bordering on downright cruel).

I don't spend time on FB, but I've seen enough of these (and heard of more) to know it's a significant "thing." It's despicable.

Of course the response to any criticism is usually some form of, "Don't be so uptight, man."


There's a video on youtube of someone pushing a baby's face into a birthday cake. A baby.

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