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Saturday, December 30, 2017

Fake dossier used for FISA warrant

I very much doubt anyone will be surprised by this confirmation, but it is one more piece of the puzzle that will eventually lock up a number of the God-Emperor's enemies:
Everyone suspected the sketchy Steele Dossier was what corrupt FBI and DOJ officials used to get the October 2016 FISA warrant against Trump. FBI and DOJ officials refuse to answer that question publicly.

Despite a hundred different ways congressional investigators have asked the question, and despite numerous on-camera questions to FBI and DOJ officials about the 2016 FISA process, no-one had definitively confirmed the Christopher Steele ‘Russian Dossier’ was the underlying evidence for the 2016 FISA application to gain wiretaps and electronic surveillance upon presidential candidate Donald Trump.   UNTIL NOW.

Senator Lindsey Graham just confirmed the sketchy Steele Dossier was used to get the wiretap and surveillance warrant from the FISA court.

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119 Comments:

Anonymous Weak December 30, 2017 11:16 AM  

Lindsey Graham did something useful? Intentionally? Now I've heard everything.

Anonymous User December 30, 2017 11:17 AM  

What's Grahamnesty's game here?

Blogger Elmer Jones December 30, 2017 11:22 AM  

Off-topic but I am signing off the internet for awhile and offering free copies of my epic Employment Game ebook : https://wp.me/p6QFjS-nq

With Trump in the White House and unemployment plummeting there is not much demand for employment advice so will pull it off the shelves until the inevitable job market downturn.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville December 30, 2017 11:29 AM  

Whole lotta stuff going on. MBS purges in Saudi. Iranians turning against the mullahs. Rumored deep state guests at GITMO. Little Rocket Man must be getting nervous about Iran. Can't wait to see what happens in January, hopefully a whole bunch of treason and sedition cases.

Blogger Salt December 30, 2017 11:29 AM  

Swamp drainage is winning.

Blogger pyrrhus December 30, 2017 11:30 AM  

Fake dossier in the hands of the Fake Bureau of Investigation presented to a Fake "court" to get a Fake warrant....perfect!

Blogger Shimshon December 30, 2017 11:30 AM  

We would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids!

Blogger Harris December 30, 2017 11:35 AM  

Graham and McCain are the worst sort of traitors to the American people.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore December 30, 2017 11:36 AM  

@4 Don't forget about this:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-proclaims-january-2018-national-slavery-human-trafficking-prevention-month/?utm_source=link

Here is the first paragraph of the proclamation:

"During National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month, we recommit ourselves to eradicating the evil of enslavement. Human trafficking is a modern form of the oldest and most barbaric type of exploitation. It has no place in our world. This month we do not simply reflect on this appalling reality. We also pledge to do all in our power to end the horrific practice of human trafficking that plagues innocent victims around the world."

GO GOD EMPEROR GO!!!!!!!

Blogger Nick S December 30, 2017 11:39 AM  

Graham should know. As I said, way back when, this fake dossier had Graham's and McCain's stink all over it from the very beginning.

Blogger Matthew December 30, 2017 11:43 AM  

User wrote:What's Grahamnesty's game here?

Pence offered him some therapy.

Anonymous FP December 30, 2017 11:45 AM  

User wrote:What's Grahamnesty's game here?

The palemetto princess is just stating the obvious to make himself look useful and not complicit. His boyfriend has a tumor after all.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 11:52 AM  

@1 Weak

Trump has taken her golfing several times so far, so Trump is working multiple angles all the time. Trump tries to work every angle, which is part of the reason DACA is being murdered the way it is.

As for the topic, those keeping up on the issue have known this for a while, but this counts as "official in the Media" confirmation. It also means most of the upper reaches of the FBI & DOJ are guilty of sedition.


@4 Jeff aka Orville

They've been flying a bunch of non-maintained flight logged "private" flights to GITMO this month. A lot. Something is up.


@7 Shimshon

Haha. That's actually true. HAHA.

Anonymous Crew (not the one who makes stupid claims) December 30, 2017 11:53 AM  

Well Grahamnesty is probably hoping for some quid pro quo.

I will help prove the FBI illegally spied on candidate Trump in exchange for speedily giving certain Criminal Aliens a pathway to voting.

What does DACA stand for again? Dumb Ass Criminal Aliens?

Blogger Silly but True December 30, 2017 11:54 AM  

Don't stop until Rice, Yates, and Holder are in prison.

Blogger Edgar Abbey December 30, 2017 11:55 AM  

Lindsey Graham senses the swamp is about to be drained and is trying to distance himself from it as fast as possible.

Blogger Lazarus December 30, 2017 11:57 AM  

Graham should know. As I said, way back when, this fake dossier had Graham's and McCain's stink all over it from the very beginning.

David Kramer, a former State Department employee and currently a senior fellow at the nonprofit McCain Institute, has been directed to appear before investigators on January 11.

An associate of Rep. Senator John McCain has been subpoenaed by the House Intelligence Committee over his reported knowledge of the names behind the infamous dossier on President Donald Trump.

According to Fox News, Committee Chairman Devin Nunes issued a subpoena to David Kramer, a former State Department employee who now serves as a senior fellow at the McCain Institute for International Leadership, on Wednesday to obtain information about his meeting with Christopher Steele, a former British spy and the author of the dossier, the contents of which have not yet been confirmed.

The committee told Fox News that Kramer visited Steele in London in November 2016, where he reportedly received information and a copy of the document, which he delivered to McCain upon returning home. The senator gave the dossier to the FBI in December 2016.

Kramer already spoke to investigators in early December and, according to the report, has been ordered to appear before the Committee once again on January 11.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 12:14 PM  

L. Graham is still part of this year's Salvage Plan, as in play ball, or else...

Anonymous JAG December 30, 2017 12:20 PM  

Silly but True wrote:Don't stop until Rice, Yates, and Holder are in prison.

Why stop there? Clinton and Obama are the ring leaders.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab December 30, 2017 12:21 PM  

Graham gave up the goods? I feel like buying a lottery ticket or a fallout shelter. The ticket's cheaper.

Blogger Robert What? December 30, 2017 12:23 PM  

"that will eventually lock up a number of the God-Emperor's enemies

Let's be clear. No one will be locked up, no one will be indicted, no one will be fired fired no one will lose their pension. At most there may be some symbolic "demotions" to placate the masses. The swamp protect their own against their sworn common enemy: the American public.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 12:29 PM  

"Why stop there? Clinton and Obama are the ring leaders."

They will not stop there, but these are only the local ring leaders.

CHR and BHO were told to go away and shut up right after election, they started the shadow government instead. Today, no deals, they will go down, but will take a while to prevent riots by pawns.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 12:33 PM  

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Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 12:38 PM  

Well, Gitmo has been expanded and many more troops sent there, as this is a great holding place where powerful Globalists cannot reach some still powerful allies. Gen. Mathis visit, and extra troops there reported.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 12:43 PM  

Dossier Kramer, likely to Dossier Buzzfeed.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 12:47 PM  

"They've been flying a bunch of non-maintained flight logged "private" flights to GITMO this month. A lot. Something is up."

This was tracked by the "planefags."

Blogger Aeoli Pera December 30, 2017 12:57 PM  

Damn.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 1:08 PM  

@26 tuberman

And it wasn't the normal chartered flights they use for moving base personnel either. Considering the rumors around Peter Munk and Barrick Gold employees, it'll be interesting. A private jet flew from Toronto to Gitmo and turned off its transponder on approach. A jet that just happened to be shadowed the entire way in by another jet.

Sessions was at Gitmo in the summer, and Mattis was there at Christmas. Oh, and Pence was in Afghanistan for Christmas as well. Important point is that means Mattis & Pence took personal trips to two major US "black sites" at the exact same time. That's not random. It means direct orders were being delivered in person.

January is "National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month", Trump has the SOTU at the end, the IG report drops in the middle and President Trump has declared a national state of emergency over foreign corruption.

Only thing that would make it better is some paid helicopter tours.

Blogger tublecane December 30, 2017 1:13 PM  

I think the MSM likes that word: "dossier." Very James Bond-y. If only they had damning microfilm on Trump, too. Then there'd be nothing we could say.

What constitutes a dossier, strictly speaking? Does it require more or less effort than James Comey put into his Fake Secret Diary? Because I'm imagining the equivalent of me ripping a page out of my spiral notebook and writing, "Obama is a crypto-Muslim homo foreigner commie." Which would be enough for eavesdropping operations if law enforcement, intelligence, and the judiciary had the same opinion of that guy as of Trump.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 1:16 PM  

Whole groups of extreme Heroes can sometimes put off the March of History for decades.

Renewal will not last forever, but maybe a generation or two. And, consider the actual unlikely possibility of a full wake up for most of West's people. Absurd, eh?

The God Emperor is amazing, but perhaps, he is just the tip of the spear, and there are countless heroes that will never take credit. Ya think?

I Do. "Conspiracy Theories" is the new lead MSM Talking Point. Coincidence?

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 1:18 PM  

"Only thing that would make it better is some paid helicopter tours."

What if, already happened?

Anonymous Andrew E. December 30, 2017 1:20 PM  

Boomer Larry Schweikart says his GITMO source says all is normal there, no special residents recently arrived. But he's a boomer so need to factor that in.

https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/947147004508909568

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 1:27 PM  

Andrew E. wrote:Boomer Larry Schweikart says his GITMO source says all is normal there, no special residents recently arrived. But he's a boomer so need to factor that in.

https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/947147004508909568


His Gitmo source might be under heavy pressure to not leak, as there have been a number of people leaking Gen. Mathis's visit, extra troops told to go (some from Arizona to be more specific), and expansion. There was a recent picture of Mathis down there talking to troops.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 30, 2017 1:30 PM  

I assume that Trump has seen the pics that Shabos Graham is the star attraction of, taken at "Shelly's" mansion during that whirlwind of a weekend Graham had with that Deelishus IDF captain

Anonymous Winona Judd December 30, 2017 1:32 PM  

Worse than Watergate. The FBI and the DOJ and Susan Rice and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton "hacked our democracy." They tried to disenfranchise the Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump voters by illegally using the government's national security spy apparatus to spy on the outsider candidate. This is treason. They will hang. And since they are out of power, they can't "resign."

The whole thing is quite beautiful. The useful idiot liberals who make up half the country gave their hearts to criminals guiltier than Tricky Dick Nixon.

The Pussy Hat Marchers were marching to support dark doings worse than Watergate.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 1:36 PM  

From Imperorator_Rex3 twitter:

"This is UNCHARTED TERRITORY, folks.

It's also a very well planned, methodical roll-out of information to educate the population and soften the blow when the many arrests coming down the line start to happen.

Clearly the crimes are incredibly serious."

Anonymous Longtime Lurker December 30, 2017 1:38 PM  

Greatest Political Scandal in American History. And the Democratic Party owns all of it.

Anonymous Weak December 30, 2017 1:44 PM  

No. The Republican Party Establishment owns quite a substantial share as well. The complicit designated losers don't have clean hands.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( the Original Militant Apathist ) December 30, 2017 1:55 PM  

31. Andrew E. December 30, 2017 1:20 PM
But he's a boomer so need to factor that in.


an even MORE outrageous scenario:
his "source" is actually observing OPSEC.

because he's finally got a POTUS he respects.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 30, 2017 1:56 PM  

I hope someone puts together all these related facts in a simple infographic or bullet list, using simple language and iconography, to explain it to the normies and not sound like a whackball conspiracy-theory nutjob. Ideally with a linst of links at the bottom to pages confirming or explaining the details. When I try to explain any of this to co-workers or left-wing family they just shut it out or say I'm a loon, they haven't heard anything like that on NPR...

Blogger tublecane December 30, 2017 2:02 PM  

@33-"Worse than Watergate," though true, isn't saying much. They got Tricky Dick as payback for Alger Hiss, to pave the way for the Ted Kennedy presidency, because the country had softened up and was at low morale, and because they still couldn't believe he won. Twice.

It wasn't because his crimes were so great they couldn't be ignored.

Blogger Silly but True December 30, 2017 2:05 PM  

@JAG,

My thinking is everyone knows Clinton and Obama are political animals; a leopard can't change its spots.

But the next level of political appointees down played under the color of law and consequently acted with so much more smugness. Holder alone should get a year for every diatribe he wrote on importance of rule of law; same for Yates.

(I'm fine with Clinton and Obama going to jail too.)

But to make Rice and Holder and Yates suffer will cause the next ones in their position to give serious thought.

Obama also has weight of Presidency; it's a snowball's shot in hell anyway to see a President behind bars. I'd rather the effort be put towards skewering 10x more enablers at lower level.

I'm also pretty sure Obama is ambivalent at best on Russia; the push to demonize it, and so greatest pushback against Trump's outreach came from Clinton State Dept. wunderkinds Victoria Nuland and Samantha Power.

I'd much rather see them all feel the consequences of siding with evil.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 2:14 PM  

@38 Just another commenter

The Clinton Team in the FBI needed dirt on Trump because they had none. They used a file that was created by a Brit, that they never verified, to wiretap all of Trump's campaign. They're guilty of sedition and a couple of dozen felonies.

A full infographic would be hard. Need more of an animatic. There were a lot of people working on making a case appear against Trump.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 30, 2017 2:25 PM  

tublecane wrote:What constitutes a dossier, strictly speaking?
It's the manila folder that makes it a dossier.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 2:31 PM  

@32 tuberman

Larry's source could be telling the truth or uninformed. There's so many moving pieces, but the reality is that there's been an unusual amount of traffic to Gitmo. Further, just because GITMO exists, it doesn't mean people are staying there. Those planes mostly just re-appear at some other airport later.

I mentioned Afghanistan upthread because one of the USA's "black sites" is known to be there. It doesn't mean there aren't others, and those planes eventually flew somewhere. Since we don't have a good line on "who is missing" yet, one needs to remember that all of those islands that are controlled by other major governments might have some interesting places tucked away for situations like this. It's not like French Guiana doesn't have French Intelligence bases or anything.

It's going to be really interesting to see who hasn't turned back up after the New Year. I really loved the LAX to LAX flight that, now, they're saying they had turn around because two people got on with the same ticket. Right.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 3:18 PM  

Not quite sure where to put it, but Iran is suddenly very important. Given the complete undesire of the MSM to cover it, that means it's actually serious.

Now, the real fun questions start: 1) is there are lot of "little green men" about causing this? 2) Has the media been told not to cover this specifically because it helps the situation? 3) is it really organic or is someone not in on the Iran Deal quite happy to make the Mullahs pay for the problems they've caused?

So many questions, many of which we'll never get answers to. History really is just the conspiracies you find out about later.

Anonymous gxg December 30, 2017 3:19 PM  

Regarding Gitmo, there was some hinting on 8Chan that the prisoners might not be at Gitmo, but rather on ships or submarines to ensure complete secrecy and security. Probably, they'd end up at Gitmo eventually, but while the operation is ongoing, there'd be a certain logic to keeping things completely off-grid. For now, we can only speculate.

Anonymous gxg December 30, 2017 3:29 PM  

Not quite sure where to put it, but Iran is suddenly very important.

Just speculating here... About Iran, maybe the sudden revolution is a byproduct of enforcement/bribery money drying up. For example, what if dark money was used to silence opposition, and the money is gone. So now, like a coiled spring, the people are rising up.

If true, that would be the opposite of what we're seeing in the U.S. Here, dark money was used to fund protests (BLM, antifa). And now, the money is gone, which means that those so-called spontaneous protests are fizzling.

In one case (Iran), the money funds the enforcers. In the other case (U.S.A.), the money funds the protesters. Of course, this is all just speculation, but the contrast certainly is interesting.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados December 30, 2017 3:38 PM  

@.46

You're not far off the mark. However a lot of this has to do with the GCC that Trump helped put together earlier in the year. Saudi Arabia is undergoing reform, and with a lot of their bad apples being arrested and their bank accounts frozen, a lot of protection money to Iran (and other places) is drying up. Factor in that ISIS has been crushed and the GCC is enforcing stability and civility within their sphere of influence and it's clear that the civilians within Iran see an opportunity to overthrow their extremist regime.

Hopefully the GCC will do whatever it can to back this up. They may already very well be backing it up for all we know. We've heard reports that the enforcers for the Mullahs are out but are not attacking anybody. They may be making themselves neutral and aren't attacking the protestors.

As for the Steele Dossier, the Inspector General's report is coming out on the 15th of January, and certain elements within the federal government are slow-walking out to the public what's about to be revealed within it.

Payback's gonna be a bitch, BIGLY.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados December 30, 2017 3:38 PM  

I mean @.45, bleh.

Blogger Robert Coble December 30, 2017 3:47 PM  

If this is true, then the "smoking gun" has been publicly identified AND the ballistics match the attempted murder weapon. The only question remaining will be whose fingerprints and DNA are all over it. All of the likely "suspects" appear to be working on or in support of the Mueller investigation, but things are shaking loose that should have never become public IFF the Deep Swamp was still in full control.

I'm no lawyer, but it seems that if "poisoned fruit" was obtained illegally (if a fake dossier paid for by the FBI, the DNC and the Clinton campaign was used to obtain a FISA warrant for surveillance of the Trump campaign), then anyone caught as a result of that process has a "get out of jail free" card waiting through the appeals process. It would also be quite adequate justification for PDJT to pardon Gen. Flynn and anyone else "convicted" as a result of this witch hunt. Mueller and his Team Clinton selectees must be crapping their collective pants over this latest revelation. I have a feeling that this will NOT be the last thing revealed.

I'd love to think that the eventual "roll out" of the DOJ/FBI sedition conspiracy and the identification of the major players involved will cause some major political "heads" to get removed. However, the Deep Swamp is much deeper than most people realize, and they will ALWAYS protect their own, no matter what it takes. I am skeptical that anyone of significant importance will be held accountable. Only the "little people" will be sacrificed for the "greater good" of the preservation of the Deep Swamp creatures.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 3:54 PM  

gxg wrote:Not quite sure where to put it, but Iran is suddenly very important.

Just speculating here... About Iran, maybe the sudden revolution is a byproduct of enforcement/bribery money drying up. For example, what if dark money was used to silence opposition, and the money is gone. So now, like a coiled spring, the people are rising up.

If true, that would be the opposite of what we're seeing in the U.S. Here, dark money was used to fund protests (BLM, antifa). And now, the money is gone, which means that those so-called spontaneous protests are fizzling.

In one case (Iran), the money funds the enforcers. In the other case (U.S.A.), the money funds the protesters. Of course, this is all just speculation, but the contrast certainly is interesting.


Some sources, not always reliable, but reliable in this area, talked about this a couple months ago, saying the Mullahs and Supreme Leader have little popular support for a long time. Note: The God Emperors tweet, and there have been ops going on at this same time (apparently), all to take down the clerics without hot war.

All supposition of course, but when the dots are everywhere, and also, there is circumstantial evidence connecting those dots through many paths, will you people need a baby spoon to catch up to the normies who have bypassed you.

I was convinced by dot following that this was all going to happen with Iran months ago...because, various dots connected there, but absolutely no proof. In fact, some of the people I followed to this make all kinds of mistakes, but the spider web of connections told me they were correct with this one.

It's a matter of logical coherence, and following certain webs or dots. Patterns within patterns reveal a strong possibility of Truth, if you have little to no agenda.

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Note: After Prince Talad arrested, no November 4th riots promised. Coincidence? It becomes more than an opinion, and much more than a mere guess. Logical coherence. Money gone from key player, and now hard to find money from other sources, such as phony charities.

Anonymous gxg December 30, 2017 3:57 PM  

Only the "little people" will be sacrificed for the "greater good" of the preservation of the Deep Swamp creatures.

Not this time, and here's why. The stakes have become too high, and the swamp has shown its hand. Now, one side must win, and the other must lose. If the big players are left in-place, they will regroup and utterly destroy Trump and the Deplorables at the first chance they get.

The Deep State has been ruling us for longer than we realized. Trump is going after them. He must succeed, because if he doesn't, he's doomed, along with everyone else who has been fighting this hidden war.

Trump is at the Black Gate, and there's no turning back now. Call me optimistic, but I expect justice to be served, because it must.

Blogger James Dixon December 30, 2017 4:05 PM  

> Pence offered him some therapy.

The scene with the Emperor and Luke in TRotJ comes inevitably to mind.

Anonymous gxg December 30, 2017 4:10 PM  

Some sources, not always reliable, but reliable in this area, talked about this a couple months ago, saying the Mullahs and Supreme Leader have little popular support for a long time.

Interesting insight.

Now, we need to see the people of Europe rise up. How much of their oppression has been funded by Saudi money? Their authorities are bought/bribed, while the legacy population is bullied into silence. If we start to see drastic changes in Europe, we'll have a pretty good idea how much Saudi money was used to influence European politics.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 4:12 PM  

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Blogger James Dixon December 30, 2017 4:14 PM  

> Not quite sure where to put it, but Iran is suddenly very important.

If the Iran deal can be shown to be a deliberate attempt to ensure Iran does get nukes, coupled with the massive influx of Muslims from the middle east shown as being a deliberate attempt to import a fifth column of jihadi's, things suddenly become very interesting for Barrack and his former staff, don't they?

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 4:23 PM  

gxg wrote:
"Only the "little people" will be sacrificed for the "greater good" of the preservation of the Deep Swamp creatures."

"Not this time, and here's why. The stakes have become too high, and the swamp has shown its hand. Now, one side must win, and the other must lose. If the big players are left in-place, they will regroup and utterly destroy Trump and the Deplorables at the first chance they get."

"The Deep State has been ruling us for longer than we realized. Trump is going after them. He must succeed, because if he doesn't, he's doomed, along with everyone else who has been fighting this hidden war."

"Trump is at the Black Gate, and there's no turning back now. Call me optimistic, but I expect justice to be served, because it must."


You are at best only slightly optimistic. I've seen some posts from guys claiming to be good guys, three letter agency people that some of the the most evil handlers, or upper management in the Cabal have been taken out, whether Gitmo, subs (yeah, seen that), or dead (bottom of ocean). Sources not confirmed, and filed away as hypothesis that could well be true....because patterns, and what Bannon said, and dots......

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And, gxg, you are completely right. This is for all the marbles, and is WWIII in stealth, not in the future, right now.

The next year, according to Bannon, not me, is to Savage the Elite, not just here, around the globe.

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Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 4:27 PM  

@45 gxg

The "Global Swamp" keeps things in line by keeping money flowing. Disruption of those money flows, by many means we don't know about, cause all sorts of havoc. Mercs don't get paid so they leave place A. Suddenly Place B starts getting rowdy because the Mercs went home. There can be hundreds of various types of these events when money flows change. Some are spontaneous, while many end up not being.


@49 tuberman

USA (not under Obama), Israel and Saudi Arabia all want the Mullahs generally gone. The Iranians generally want the Mullahs gone. Iran's Regime suddenly has a lot of enemies with not a lot to do on their hands in the region. Oh, and their proxies have been lobbing missiles at Riyadh. That makes a country a little prickly.



@54 James Dixon

The Uranium One uranium went somewhere. It's either Iran, NK or some State that shouldn't have it. No one seems to know where it is. The Iran Deal was too important, or that Money that went to Iran was too important to the Obama Administration. It was either for kickbacks or protection money.

Hillary and Obama will be allowed to skate if they go enjoy a nice retirement, but someone in their inner circle is going to need to take a dive on a lot of this stuff. I wonder who's going to have a gym accident with a note about how their scheme was foiled & it was only them that knew about it.


@52 gxg

Ending Syria's war removes the ability for the EU politicians to justify the "refugees". They'll try to hold out for as long as they can, by doubling doubt, but we're not too far away from the first beatings of politicians. Then the killings. The issue has turned all of the central European governments to the "Right", at least on immigration terms.

Anonymous gxg December 30, 2017 4:30 PM  

Someone just posted this on 8Chan.

UPDATE ON SEALED INDICTMENTS: As you are aware our last count was on 11/22 and we were at 4,289 Sealed Indictments. We are Still counting but as of now we are up to 10,448 Sealed Indictments.

That's a lot of swamp-drainage.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 4:46 PM  

Q anon said "no deals" for both Hillary and BHO, adding that they are stupid. Q anon, at least up to December 23rd, has proven himself to be a real Trump insider, so many times that anyone denying it is not doing any research. "Stupid," was also stated several time about those two fools. If this is one of Trump's insiders, or a team of Insiders, and it has been proven over two dozen times that he/they are, then you simply doubt the God Emperor, himself. There is all kinds of info, all over of the proof of Q being the real thing, and is easy to find, and if you do not see this, it is you that has an AGENDA, against the Truth. Not saying you are NWO, but there are tons of agendas that would like to see the world in flames.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 4:53 PM  

@ tuberman

It just dawned on me this has actually been a pretty textbook example of a Western approach to taking down a Regime. I don't mean Iran, but the entire Deep State. I've studied enough of how we've approached the task over the years (and how badly some of the attempts have gone) to have a grasp on some of the bigger aspects, the finer details are just filed away in some classified folder you're never seeing.

But the general outline is to profile the Regime well. A popular regime is much harder to take down, needing a Coup of someone with enough cachet and pre-existing power to accomplish it. (This is most of the reason for the "important foreigners" approach that TPTB are taking in the West. They can't dislodge a functional government by normal means.)

In an unpopular regime, the regime stays in power by some combination of Fear & Money. The more Money is needed, the more fragile the regime is. If you can make the money dry up, groups that only are around for the Money suddenly go away. Then scores start to be settled. Then, the regime can be replaced, fairly easily, by instigating some event and putting someone new in power, though that "new" person needs both cachet and "something better" than the previous system.

The weird thing about taking out the Deep State Globalist Regime is that the coup happened first. Trump was able to capitalize on their arrogance because they simply couldn't understand him. His Media Persona was so good that it fooled all of the intelligence services. Everything leading up to the victory, in hindsight, shows masterful planning and a strong ability to shift from Stage X to Stage Y of a plan in a matter of hours. The level of Systematic pre-planning was immense.

But part of that pre-planning was Trump forming incredibly powerful alliances. This isn't something I've publicly pointed out before, but take a quick look at this:

https://youtu.be/NrRJuFGvuwI?t=3m46s

For 60s, right near the start of the inaugural address, Trump has a member of every branch of the military behind him. I checked Obama & W's back when I first noticed this, I couldn't find an example of this type of optics. This was a "blink and you miss it" type of event, but it was signaling to the other power factions. Trump also had his first speech, the next day, at the CIA headquarters. That speech is fascinating on its own ( https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-cia-speech-transcript/ ), but taken with that Optics at the inaugural, Trump was sending a big message.

This isn't a Power Elite pissing match. There's big players the world over involved in all of this. There are decades of deep, personal scores to be settled. One of the world's richest Men is currently under house arrest in Saudi Arabia and a Canadian billionaire couple was assassinated. And that's just the last month. We really are into "WW3: The Secret Wars". Now we just need someone to actually be a green skin.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 5:03 PM  

"This isn't a Power Elite pissing match. There's big players the world over involved in all of this. There are decades of deep, personal scores to be settled. One of the world's richest Men is currently under house arrest in Saudi Arabia and a Canadian billionaire couple was assassinated. And that's just the last month. We really are into "WW3: The Secret Wars". Now we just need someone to actually be a green skin."

Space aliens and UFOs, more MSM misdirection, don't go there.

Blogger Silly but True December 30, 2017 5:06 PM  

More than 20% of the original 4,289 were issued in CA & TX. I have to believe similar rate continues and given Trump's interest, these are mostly crackdown on MS-13 type Mexican gang cases.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 5:09 PM  

Trump has behind him two Intelligence AI forces, along with his own great security team, MI, NSA (now), and the massive NSA database/cloud.

He also has behind him the best special ops from JSOC, the Marines, and the NG (most anyway), if needed.

Blogger seeingsights December 30, 2017 5:09 PM  

One way to confirm if the bogus dossier was used in court is for Congress to subpoena to testify all the FISA court judges involved. Was this dossier used in court? If so, you really considered it be credible? Did you not think that by allowing surveillance on Trump's associates, that there would be incidental surveillance on a person who might become President of the United States?

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 5:11 PM  

@57 gxg

Given that 100 of the previous were just one Democrat politician from the NE, that might only be 100-200 people, though this swings back to the Money Flow issues. Surprisingly large amounts of Corruption/Swamp really do run through only a few people. That's why Podesta's emails were so terrible to get out. He really was a major conduit between the European & American swamps. (This is also why he'd have been SoS.)


@58 tuberman

Obama's narcissism has been getting the better of him since he won the election in 2008. Hillary has never stuck me as stupid, but, eh, maybe her health is collapsing faster than expected.

Just to toss this out there, Hillary didn't have seizures. It's a Parkinson-like disorder brought on by the stress and the drinking. It's more classic neuro-degeneration, plus some effects from likely heavy drug use as well. She did the that triple head-bobble because it was a startle response that didn't process fully. The multiple responses is due to the brain's inability to produce enough inhibitory neurotransmitters on demand. Seizures would have had more significant jerking motion or some sort of rhythmic response.

Same with the 9/11 collapse. She was clearly drunk and, likely in combination with the medications & liver issues, actually dehydrated. This is also the reason why she could pop back up so quickly and we all thought they used a body double. They didn't have to lie about the treatment, just the cause. Oh, and Vox is correct that Hillary was doped up on something good for the debates. Likely some combination of beta blockers and multiple classes of stimulants, that they dialed back after the first debate. (But too far for the 2nd, which is why she did so poorly.) She's in bad shape, but so is Bill. Huma would have run the White House, in all reality.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 5:12 PM  

Silly but True wrote:More than 20% of the original 4,289 were issued in CA & TX. I have to believe similar rate continues and given Trump's interest, these are mostly crackdown on MS-13 type Mexican gang cases.

These are the hired hit men for deep state and DNC. They do many other grunt task to keep money flowing, including drugs, human and some of the child trafficking.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 5:22 PM  

@60 tuberman

It was actually a Comic book joke. Look up Electra and Skrull replacement in "Secret Invasion". Though I flipped the name with multiple events called "Secret Wars", which is my mistake.

Aliens ain't our issues, nor are they real.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 5:24 PM  

Q's remark that they are stupid, seemed to mean that early on, right after PDJT's election, that it was understood, if they just shut up and went away, that they could walk. In America, we never prosecute the opposition, no matter how corrupt. UNTIL NOW, so the rules have changed. There will be no deals, and this may include G.W. Bush (likely,) in fact. Former Presidents will go down, and their Presidency may even be declared illegitimate, so all the Court appointments would be removed (odds low, but possible).

One thing is now certain, former Presidents will go down this time, because...All the Marbles. They cannot get back in power ever.

Blogger Lazarus December 30, 2017 5:42 PM  

Some sources, not always reliable, but reliable in this area, talked about this a couple months ago, saying the Mullahs and Supreme Leader have little popular support for a long time.

This has been a matter of public record since 2009.


In 2009, hundreds of thousands of Iranians protested a rigged election and the regime dispatched its thugs to crush the protest by assaulting, imprisoning, and in many cases murdering the protesters. The new president had campaigned on the need to “dialogue” with the regime and wanted to prove his foreign-policy prowess by securing a nuclear deal; so he responded with weak rhetorical criticisms and nothing more. A movement that might have blossomed into a democratic and peaceable Iran was instead crushed for the sake of an agreement—the 2015 nuclear deal—the Iranian government immediately began flouting.

There were protests in 2011 and 2012 as well. The difference now is that Trump's attitude towards the Iran deal has re-energized the opposition. Obama did the opposite.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 5:43 PM  

LG,


Not to worry, I'd say the odds are 99% that you are not an Alien Promoter. Grin.

Anonymous johnc December 30, 2017 5:45 PM  

@67 One thing is now certain, former Presidents will go down this time, because...All the Marbles. They cannot get back in power ever.

I appreciate the enthusiasm but you (and Q, who is probably just disinfo if not outright LARP) are getting into crazy talk.

The American people would never support charging any Clinton, Obama or FBI / DOJ people.

We have evidence of serious crimes coming out and most Americans are just "meh", and half of them think these crimes are defensible if they were committed with the intention of electing Hillary. ("The ends justify the means.")

If Trump had leverage he'd be getting his agenda passed and not have an investigation against him and his people. Instead he's being bent over a barrel.

Anonymous gxg December 30, 2017 5:47 PM  

More than 20% of the original 4,289 were issued in CA & TX. I have to believe similar rate continues and given Trump's interest, these are mostly crackdown on MS-13 type Mexican gang cases.

This makes sense, but I'm still hoping that the CA list includes at least a few Hollywood degenerates, plus election-riggers and sanctuary city types. As long as I'm wishing, it would be nice to see some activist judges on there.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 5:48 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Some sources, not always reliable, but reliable in this area, talked about this a couple months ago, saying the Mullahs and Supreme Leader have little popular support for a long time.

This has been a matter of public record since 2009.

In 2009, hundreds of thousands of Iranians protested a rigged election and the regime dispatched its thugs to crush the protest by assaulting, imprisoning, and in many cases murdering the protesters. The new president had campaigned on the need to “dialogue” with the regime and wanted to prove his foreign-policy prowess by securing a nuclear deal; so he responded with weak rhetorical criticisms and nothing more. A movement that might have blossomed into a democratic and peaceable Iran was instead crushed for the sake of an agreement—the 2015 nuclear deal—the Iranian government immediately began flouting.

There were protests in 2011 and 2012 as well. The difference now is that Trump's attitude towards the Iran deal has re-energized the opposition. Obama did the opposite.


Yes, we all know that Trump re-energized opposition, and he did it several months ago. That Tweet was merely an extra go sign.

Blogger Silly but True December 30, 2017 5:52 PM  

I'm certain Trump's first order of business on Jan. 20 was to check travel records and confirm Stanley Ann Dunham was not physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions since August 1951, at least five of which were after she was 14.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 30, 2017 5:53 PM  

johnc wrote:The American people would never support charging any Clinton, Obama or FBI / DOJ people.


We most certainly would. Particularly if the crimes were simple, egregious and definite. Certainly Trump needs to avoid any semblance of politically motivated revenge, but proving that Hillary arranged the abduction of children from Haiti, for instance, would definitely be accepted.
Do you think they would not use the courts to try to destroy Trump when he's out of office?

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 5:57 PM  

On the issue of former presidents, I think HW and Jimmy don't survive Trump's first term anyway. W is probably hard to tie to anything concrete, but Obama has himself a real issue.

Which it also dawned on me why Huma is pretty much living with Hillary and Valerie Jarret moved in with the Obamas. Those two run the lives of the others, so if you don't want to arrest the "big", what do you do? Well, their "chief of staff" has an unfortunate car accident.

Huma really needs to go down for selling State Secrets (it's been pretty obvious that's one of the illegal things she was up to), but cutting off their lifeline removes the "big" from the playing field.

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 5:57 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:johnc wrote:The American people would never support charging any Clinton, Obama or FBI / DOJ people.



We most certainly would. Particularly if the crimes were simple, egregious and definite. Certainly Trump needs to avoid any semblance of politically motivated revenge, but proving that Hillary arranged the abduction of children from Haiti, for instance, would definitely be accepted.

Do you think they would not use the courts to try to destroy Trump when he's out of office?


Snidley,


After a 10 minute show trial, I'd support a public lynching of those two, but I'm unfair. In 2019 Justice...Bannon.

Anonymous Anonymous December 30, 2017 5:59 PM  

I do hope all the talk of Trump hitting his enemies hard is on target. I sure do.

However, I think that if Trump does not do something to stop all the illegal voting and other types of election fraud that the game will be over. I was amazed the Dems allowed Trump to win but some say they were just very overconfident.

Next time?

Was the Alabama special election tainted by fraud? Will the invading hoard of brown people vote illegally? (how many times will each do it???)

Blogger tuberman December 30, 2017 5:59 PM  

Not Snidley, Snidely, sorry.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 30, 2017 6:02 PM  

@73 Silly but True

Trump played the issue masterfully. Obama is almost assuredly the son of two American citizens (Barack Obama Sr. isn't his father) born in Hawaii. That isn't the issue. They spent so much effort covering up the other stuff because it was a useful snipe hunt. The real key is how he represented himself to colleges and any government organizations.

Claiming not to be a US National to a federal agency puts his citizenship in doubt. That's the real leverage point and the one thing they needed to hide. Obama just lied about his birthplace for years because it gave him an advantage, he was never supposed to make it to be President. He was just supposed to be the 4 term Senator.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr December 30, 2017 6:20 PM  

Vox is right, this should not surprise anyone.

Let's review what likely happened:
1. The Clinton campaign has a dossier faked up with information to justify legal wiretapping of Trump associates.

2. The FBI (which has a LONG track record of shady ethics) was given the dossier, took it to the FISA court, got the warrants.

3. "Take" from the wiretaps was passed to the FBI, also to Clinton operatives in the White House...who "unmasked" the information and almost certainly passed it on to the Clinton campaign.

4. After Trump won despite being wiretapped, the dossier was used as partial justification for the Mueller harassment probe.

Outstanding questions:

1. What did Obama know, and when? Bear in mind that this would not be the first time he's been involved in VERY shady dealings of this sort. Ask his Senate opponent in 2006.

2. How broad does the corruption go in the FBI? Can the organization be salvaged with new leadership, or should it be broken up and the duties (and personnel) distributed elsewhere?

3. Was this done to the Romney campaign? I'd bet money that a look at FISA warrants from 2012 would turn up Romney or his campaign staff.

As far as I'm concerned, the behavior of both HRC and BHO is beyond toleration. The former was clearly running a pay-to-play operation in the State Department. No way in Hell Obama didn't know about it (and I'd check Clinton Foundation funds, see how much they've put at Obama's disposal). Worse, after losing they and their minions attempted to subvert the legitimate Government. We're talking 18 U.S. Code, Sections 2383 and 2384, possibly 2385. Twenty years in Federal prison.

Lock them ALL up. Make Prisons Full Again!

Anonymous johnc December 30, 2017 6:21 PM  

@77 Was the Alabama special election tainted by fraud?

There was probably some fraud. But enough to change the outcome? Hard to say. Enough to make up the vast swing from Trump's winning margin in 2016? Highly unlikely.

My understanding is that AL has voter ID laws. So we can't rely on that tactic to win elections.

Winning elections comes down to turnout and the particular combination we need is high turnout on our side and low turnout on the opposite side. That's how Trump won those key states up north.

Blogger Silly but True December 30, 2017 6:22 PM  

@LG,
I can buy that too.

Anonymous ConservativeFaggots December 30, 2017 7:34 PM  

The Fake dossier originated in the GOP...

So who did it? Jeb, Romney, McCain, Cruz?

Why are these fuckers even still alive?

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable December 30, 2017 7:37 PM  

Yes, the left is explicitly going for an all-the-marbles play. So it would be malpractice for Trump to do less.

And about Graham, I don't know why, but he's suddenly disassociated from McCain recently to the point of taking opposite positions on a bill (Obamacare repeal IIRC). He's an odd duck. Used to be super consistent. So maybe whatever his principles are, they've actually realigned somehow for some reason.

Blogger Timmy3 December 30, 2017 7:38 PM  

Do they have the nerve to lock up Hillary? She in on it, probably paid for it.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable December 30, 2017 7:48 PM  

johnc wrote:If Trump had leverage he'd be getting his agenda passed and not have an investigation against him and his people. Instead he's being bent over a barrel.

You are only a third right. Trump's been steel-rod firm standing against the opposition because his leverage is still there; it just only gets a voice every two years. The left hates democracy SO. MUCH.

Anonymous Godfrey December 30, 2017 8:35 PM  

LMAO... Nixon was a angelic Alter Boy in comparison to these guys.

Blogger Kona Commuter December 30, 2017 8:43 PM  



Is Huma Abedin wearing an ankle monitor?

https://twitter.com/correctthemedia/status/947280494143721472

Blogger David Davenport December 30, 2017 8:54 PM  

He's an odd duck.

Queer, one might say.

Anonymous Crew (not the one who makes stupid claims) December 30, 2017 9:01 PM  

@87: LMAO... Nixon was a angelic Alter Boy in comparison to these guys.

I suspect you mean Altar Boy, although I have no information on whether or not he was altered as a boy.

Blogger James Dixon December 30, 2017 9:06 PM  

> Trump also had his first speech, the next day, at the CIA headquarters.

In which he spoke directly to the rank and file and assured them they were valued and would, in effect, be protected from what was coming. Isolating the deep state leadership from their underlings.

I think he's trying to do the same with the FBI now.

> The American people would never support charging any Clinton, Obama or FBI / DOJ people.

Bill is having medical issues, no one would be surprised if he suddenly came down with untreatable "pneumonia" and passed away. Hillary is having major medical issues. No one would be at all surprised if she suddenly had a stroke. Obama? Wouldn't it be a shame if there were a terrorist attack that takes out him and whoever he's visiting the next time he's in the middle east?

The Bush's are smart enough to get the message.

> If Trump had leverage he'd be getting his agenda passed and not have an investigation against him and his people.

He doesn't need leverage. His agenda is going pretty much as expected, with a slight delay in the repeal of Obamacare. And what good has the investigation against him done exactly? All it's done is implicate his opposition.

> Was the Alabama special election tainted by fraud?

Is the Pope Catholic (present one excepted, possibly)?

> 2. How broad does the corruption go in the FBI? Can the organization be salvaged with new leadership, or should it be broken up and the duties (and personnel) distributed elsewhere?

The FBI, CIA, and NSA are the real question marks. They were obviously firmly in the tank for Obama and Hillary. Can any of them be salvaged?

In any case, a major reorganization of the entire intelligence apparatus, including the FBI, is obviously called for. And not just an new layer of leadership on top, as is often the case. There's a lot of redundancy that could be done away with, just for starters.

Blogger Lazarus December 30, 2017 9:36 PM  

WinWinWin

Anonymous simplytimothy December 30, 2017 10:00 PM  

@38 hope someone puts together all these related facts in a simple infographic or bullet list, using simple language and iconography, to explain it to the normies and not sound like a whackball conspiracy-theory nutjob. Ideally with a linst of links at the bottom to pages confirming or explaining the details. When I try to explain any of this to co-workers or left-wing family they just shut it out or say I'm a loon, they haven't heard anything like that on NPR...


The Conservative Treehouse is all over this.
Scroll down to the bottom of the link and you will see a bullet point list of the progression of his reporting (read from the bottom up).

The very bottom of that post, the last bullet point on the list gives a timeline.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot December 30, 2017 10:08 PM  

America needs to get rid of its Bundessternenkammer, full stop.

The only protection that the Official Secrecy Act apparently provides is that nobody knows for certain how much of a bunch of incompetents they are in practice.

Naturally, I suspect the entire thing is rotten from the top ... just like MI5 used to be, in fact. (BTW, was it really Hollis ... or does it even matter and they all needed to go?)

Also, while we're on the subject of actually fake or potentially fake dossiers, apparently TIME Magazine in the States has decided that the actually fake MeToo movement is in fact the "person of the year for 2017".

We used to refer to such "false persons" as "notionals" back in the day ...

Blogger Were-Puppy December 30, 2017 10:14 PM  

@81 johnc
My understanding is that AL has voter ID laws. So we can't rely on that tactic to win elections.
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They've already come up with one scam to get around voter id laws. Hell, they have goons from the "fellowship" admitting it on camera that they came from around the country.

0 discovered part of how they pulled off getting fake ids here.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1lDGLAAELvwJm

I suppose all they would have to do is find a way to match up some recent dead peoples names and make up these IDs.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 30, 2017 10:16 PM  

@84 SciVo de Plorable

He's an odd duck. Used to be super consistent. So maybe whatever his principles are, they've actually realigned somehow for some reason.
---

Speculation: Linda Graham cut a deal with Trump. Brain McTumor didn't.

Blogger rumpole5 December 30, 2017 11:57 PM  

I saw the interview. Graham was just conceding something that will soon come out anyway to build credibility to work a deal ramming the DACA dreamer aliens down our throats. The man is a snake. Send them all back NOW!

Blogger peter blandings December 31, 2017 2:27 AM  

anybody who thinks that ANY anti-trumper is going to get locked up for ANYTHING just hasn't been paying attention for the last 11 months. hate trump=home free. trump is nothing but a helpless hostage. and i don't want to hear about tax cuts and obamacare. that's just a buncha crap nobody cares about. the key stat is this: trump has deported 26% FEWER illegals than obama did during the last year of his term. end of story. and this winning business is just a cruel joke on anybody stupid enough to believe it.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 31, 2017 2:45 AM  

Trump has been trolling the MSM hard since Christmas, and then the Iran protests start to get going. Trump always gets the MSM into a fit of rage when something actually important is happening. (It's a great signal for it, btw, not that the MSM can help itself.) It'll be really interesting to see how it plays out, especially since you have a bunch of Kurdish forces with not a lot to do right over the border in Iraq.

As for DACA, it's dying a Machiavellian death. Trump keeps upping the cost for a deal, not lowering it. The DACA play was pretty clear from a basic Game Theory perspective, when you lay out Trump's needs with regard to it. It dies by 1000 cuts (or 700 days starting in March). It's not pleasant, but once I was able to key into it, it's now a painful cudgel that Trump will swing at the Dems & GOPe for the next 2 years. It'll still die.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 31, 2017 4:19 AM  

peter blandings wrote:trump is nothing but a helpless hostage. and i don't want to hear about tax cuts and obamacare.
"With a heart of gold,
He believes what he's told,
Every single solitary word.
"

Blogger peter blandings December 31, 2017 4:26 AM  

@100 i think this applies more to you than me. i don't believe anything i hear; i believe what i see. the daca spics are still here.

Blogger Jeff December 31, 2017 6:25 AM  

The deep state is reacting quickly to crush this. The Russia investigation was started as a result of drunken bragging by low-level aide Papadopolous, it had nothing to do with any fake Steele dossier!

Anonymous Question for VD December 31, 2017 8:26 AM  

Vox, what's your take on this argument from Karl Denniger:

"Trump has now publicly acknowledged that McCabe violated several federal laws, not the least of which is the Hatch Act. Yet he now proposes to allow McCabe to retire next year, keeping his federal pension and benefits.

Not only that but Congress has that evidence now too -- but note that the House Judiciary Committee is not issuing a single word about the fact that such actions are violations of several federal laws.

What Trump should do is have Sessions immediately indict him - after firing McCabe for cause, which terminates his right to any sort of federal pension or benefit. If McCabe wants to sue for his pension let him, because that will force into the public record all of the evidence on exactly what he did as he will have to defend the claim that his firing "for cause" wasn't actually for cause.

Good luck with that.

But Trump isn't going to do that. Instead he's going to let McCabe walk off with your money America. Money he will steal from you for the rest of his life after having taken actions that, the President has good reason to believe, were felony violations of the law and abuses of his office, effectively using the FBI as a political weapon in a Presidential contest.

That's damn close to a coup, and that it failed doesn't matter. It's still illegal.

There is nobody who can honestly support President Trump unless he upholds The Rule of Law, and in this instance since he has publicly declared that McCabe used the FBI as a weapon in a political contest he must either dismiss and prosecute him now or he has declared himself exactly equal in his tolerance and support of corruption as are both Hillary Clinton and President Obama."

Blogger Shimshon December 31, 2017 8:55 AM  

@103 "Yet he now proposes to allow McCabe to retire next year, keeping his federal pension and benefits."

As far as I know, Trump has not proposed any such thing. Trump asked incredulously, perhaps even rhetorically, whether or not McCabe would able to retire with his pension intact. That is all he did. Karl is good on many things, but his understanding of how to take down the Deep State constituents is woefully naive.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 31, 2017 10:22 AM  

"Lock them ALL up. Make Prisons Full Again!"

Rather, let's start padding the coming depression early by saving the money.

Make Ditches Full Again.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 31, 2017 10:29 AM  

"There is nobody who can honestly support President Trump unless he upholds The Rule of Law"

When the sheriff is pinned down in a gunfight with ten other actors, do you shoot the one getting away yourself, or do you blame it on the sheriff?

Support either way, because if you don't you f***ed yourself.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 31, 2017 10:38 AM  

The most meaningful effect you can have on making a good and capable team is by being a good and capable teammate. What can you ("Question for VD") do for your country?

Blogger Akulkis December 31, 2017 11:43 AM  

@33


<<
Worse than Watergate. The FBI and the DOJ and Susan Rice and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton "hacked our democracy." They tried to disenfranchise the Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump voters by illegally using the government's national security spy apparatus to spy on the outsider candidate. This is treason. They will hang. And since they are out of power, they can't "resign."
>>

Remember, after the first debate with Trump, Hillary was caught on a still-running camera, yelling at some NBC exects (because the debate questions got changed, leaving her flat-footed without any pre-crafted answers):

“If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist Fuck will have us swinging from nooses! What the fuck is wrong with you idiots?”


Well, well, well.

For once, Hillary was right.

Anonymous Question for VD December 31, 2017 11:51 AM  

Don't get me wrong, guys. I have a question for VD, not a challenge for him. I'm asking for his opinion because I value it and because I largely share it.

I support the God Emperor. And I agree with Shimshon that Denniger is perhaps being naive. The rule of law is already gone and Trump is fighting a war for survival. His and ours. Putting a pawn like McCabe in jail right now might be a way to win a skirmish while losing the war. I accept that.

I just thought that Denniger's point was interesting. If Trump is not willing to prosecute crimes against America, that's not ideal (at first glance) in terms of routing our enemies, restoring the rule of law, etc. Trump may be playing a longer game for higher stakes, and that would be great.

But we can't 100% know for sure in advance.
In an ideal world, we'd like middle class people to know that the laws they have to obey will also be enforced equally against corrupt bureaucrats. Without that, entrepreneurship shrivels up, which it has (new business formation has collapsed over past 20 years, in spite of the Internet reducing the costs to start businesses). People know that Hillary cronies and Goldman Sachs cronies and various (((networks))) can illegally cheat against them in business with impunity. Will Trump eventually fix this? (If he can survive the gunfight first.) Or, at the other extreme, does Trump just want to win a war for the Red Empire against the Blue Empire while retaining all privileges for the elites at the expense of the middle class? I'm not suggesting that the latter is the case nor that I'm withholding any loyalty from the greatest President I've seen in my lifetime. I'm just saying we don't yet know how far Trump intends to go or will be able to go.

Anyway, there are plenty of good explanations for why Trump wouldn't want to prosecute Hillary or Obama or their lackeys in law enforcement or their co-conspirators at places like the Podesta Group or the Clinton Foundation or the DNC or Congress.

Maybe the rule of law is not his thing. Maybe it's not his priority. Maybe there are better ways to destroy his enemies than via the legal system. Maybe he is biding his time. Maybe he wants to win over the center, the normies, the independents, who he knows might be swayed against him by the media crying "Fascist!" if he jails his enemies even for legitimate crimes. Maybe he wants to keep political fights in the political as opposed to the legal realm. I don't know.

My only point, as a Trump supporter and a Vox Day supporter, is simply this: "Karl Denniger wrote something that I found interesting and I'd love to know Vox's take on it." This is part of learning and getting stronger and smarter. When Karl says, "Trump is part of the problem because he coddles criminals," I instinctively disagree. But I want to solicit the opinion of someone smarter and frankly stronger and more decisive than I am. Vox. Because Vox's opinion will help inform my thinking.

Blogger Akulkis December 31, 2017 12:43 PM  

@98

"anybody who thinks that ANY anti-trumper is going to get locked up for ANYTHING just hasn't been paying attention for the last 11 months. hate trump=home free. trump is nothing but a helpless hostage."

Yeah, about that...

https://pics.me.me/of-you-seem-derstand-im-not-locked-i-here-with-1480284.png

Blogger Akulkis December 31, 2017 12:47 PM  

@98

"trump has deported 26% FEWER illegals than obama did during the last year of his term. end of story. and this winning business is just a cruel joke on anybody stupid enough to believe it."

Obummer was padding the books by counting "turn-backs" (Immigration rejects someone at a port of entry, and tells them to go home) as deportations, so as to DECEPTIVELY make it look like something was being done when it was not.

Now, since we are ALL familiar with the lie about Obummer's deportation rate, since it was exposed over 2 years ago, how about you go take a nice long trip on the Mary Rose, one of the leading contenders for the submerged endurance record.

Blogger Akulkis December 31, 2017 12:53 PM  

@109

You always prosecute the small fish first, cutting a few deals here and there to get the goods on the medium fish.


then you prosecute the medium-sized fish now that you have the intel and testimony from the small fish... and cut a few strategic deals to get the big fish.

....

And so on and so on up the ladder, until you take out the whales. And for them -- NO DEALS.

Blogger Akulkis December 31, 2017 12:55 PM  

As we know the Clinton Foundation is involved in Human Trafficking, and Trump issued his executive order last week specifically naming Human Trafficking as a threat to National Security, and now designated January as Anti-Human Trafficking Month..... you can see where this all leads.

Blogger Nakota Publishing January 01, 2018 1:11 AM  

If Trump's counter-coup is do any good, it must involve Kushner somehow, either as a detainee or a secret ally who tricks the neocons into incriminating themselves.

Anonymous Anonymous January 02, 2018 7:01 AM  

Two words. TAMMANY HALL. TRUMP is the new Roosevelt.

Blogger Not a lefty January 02, 2018 6:59 PM  

Sometimes it's hard to tell when a comment is joking, so I Goolaged "planefags" and there is actually someone out there that calls himself "planefag". Seems to be a single person and not dedicated to tracking flights.

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