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Saturday, December 23, 2017

I expect it will be sooner than that

Another Deep Stater is deep-sixed:
Facing Republican attacks, FBI’s deputy director plans to retire early next year

Andrew McCabe, the FBI’s deputy director who has been the target of Republican critics for more than a year, plans to retire in a few months when he becomes fully eligible for pension benefits, according to people familiar with the matter.

McCabe spent hours in Congress this past week, facing questions behind closed doors from members of three committees. Republicans said they were dissatisfied with his answers; Democrats called it a partisan hounding.... McCabe’s role is being examined by the Justice Department’s inspector general, who has said a report on how the Clinton probe was handled should be finished by spring.
I very much doubt McCabe will make it to retirement. The article also mentions that the FBI's top lawyer, James Baker, "has been reassigned."

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Anonymous Precious December 23, 2017 5:44 PM  

I do hope McCabe gets charged, reading some background on him, he might be on the payroll of foreign oligarchs.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 23, 2017 5:46 PM  

He ought to be imprisoned. What is coming out regarding the FBI is confirming everybody's most cynical suspicions. The entire agency needs to be shut down and started over. Most bosses need to be imprisoned. All current employees need to be fired, barred from future federal employment in any capacity, and barred from lobbying.

I suspect there are no good guys, no white hats, inside the FBI. They have all been turned out. If any remained, they would have either fought back against the corruption by now or resigned in the face of it rather than become complicit. Nobody currently employed there really warrants a second chance. Not worth the risk.

Anonymous DissidentRight December 23, 2017 5:51 PM  

when he becomes fully eligible for pension benefits

How many of these rats wish they had retired early this year?

Anonymous Will December 23, 2017 5:58 PM  

Most of the rank and file are great guys who want to see the right thing done. I was there.
Quit the day after the Comey-letting-Hilary-off thing. But everyone I worked with was solid, careful to follow the law people.
Now obviously the Feebs have a long history of fucking up, but hopefully a purge of the top and the installation of new leadership will be enough.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 23, 2017 5:59 PM  

A huge chunk of the FBI & DOJ leadership is staring at long prison sentences. I wonder who starts talking first?

Blogger Tino December 23, 2017 6:04 PM  

Our problem is that the President is compromised by Zio-rat interests on one side and by Trilateral/Vatican NWOs on the other hand. He is threading between Scylla and Charybdis. Having said that the man in the arena is making progress. But when will he take down the Bush and Clinton Crime families? Vast trillions have been expropriated under their watches (really, we "misplaced" $21 trillion -- there'd better be a hell of a Secret Space Program for a fraction of that sum!). That money needs recovery! I want my Nuremberg II!

Anonymous JAG December 23, 2017 6:06 PM  

Looks like the left in the deep state is eventually going to force the G-E into a total purge of them from the Executive Branch. I despise leftists so much that I would have fired them all day one. The President is a far more patient man than I, but it does look like he will have no choice in the end.

Anonymous Ryan G December 23, 2017 6:08 PM  

@2 So long as we're in fantasy land, the *whole* Fed Gov should be gutted. But that isn't going to happen. At the end of the day, there are no democrats, republicans, libertarians, or socialists. There is the DC establishment, and the DC establishment protects its own. What we see are scapegoats or people like McCabe that can be disposed of with little consequence. Look at the fiasco around the Moore Case. Dems got rid of Franken to show that, as of five minutes ago, they're super serious about sexual misconduct and so now they have the moral high ground. Now that Moore is out of the picture, they're trying to bring Franken back. Why? He's still valuable. I'll bet money the people who get fired in the next few years will neatly fall into just two categories: low-level functionaries and people who are old enough to resign (with benefits). If Trump ever went after really big fish, I seriously doubt he would succeed.

That, by the way, isn't an indictment against Trump. It's simply a political reality that you need the support of the un-elected, 4th branch of government - The Federal Bureaucracy, to actually do anything. Nothing Trump could do to them wouldn't also hurt him in return: If he defunds them, the ability of the agencies to carry out his will are reduced. If he fires them, the ones who weren't will doubtless drag their heels on everything else. If he tries to micromanage them, his time will be spent focusing on doing that rather than engaging in activities more appropriate for head of the Executive Branch.

In short, even if Trump gets rid of, say, the top 5% of swamp creatures infesting DC, all his good will be undone with the next cuck or dem that gets elected.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 23, 2017 6:14 PM  

Okay, then, what's the point of anything, ever? Why was it my fate to born among a generation of nihilists? The looming war is going to suck, indeed. But some days I'm looking forward to it. Hope it gets here before I'm too old.

Anonymous NormiePiller December 23, 2017 6:19 PM  

McCabe is an 1811, he will make it to retirement, bank on it. Never confuse the lower grade 1811s with the top "management" brass...and I don't mean SACs or ASACs, but the SESrs.

Blogger Quilp December 23, 2017 6:30 PM  

Is Baker the son of James Baker of the Reagan and Bush 41 years (COS, Treasury and Sec State)?

Anonymous Jack Amok December 23, 2017 6:30 PM  

Will he become fully eligible for pension benefits or prison benefits first?

Blogger Nathan December 23, 2017 6:37 PM  

So are you saying he'll get by for being a relative nobody, and not SES?

Anonymous CD-21 December 23, 2017 6:37 PM  

The are getting close. JK and DTJ are next. Bad 2018.

Blogger Tino December 23, 2017 6:42 PM  

@9 I understand why from a historical perspective why you think "there will be war". But many are working hard behind the scenes and out of the public eye to prevent that scenario. And while there are no certainties, the carnage may be limited to the economy with dollar diaspora being destroyed, which will turn the country inward to restructure and rebuild.

Anonymous NormiePiller December 23, 2017 6:43 PM  

Nathan, no, he is an SES, what I am saying is two things: 1811s are very hard to fire and even if you started the process today, it would take several months or longer, even if he is an appointee. It could happen, but doubtful. Secondly, as to those who think all the bureau or any other agency needs to be gutted, field agents are decent people who do not control what the higher ups do or say, just like the police chief vs the rank-and-file. Policies and positions simply filter down thru the SACs and ASACs--so no one should be proposing they all be fired, etc. Baby and bathwater stuff.

Anonymous CloseHauled December 23, 2017 6:46 PM  

Trump tweeted:
"FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is racing the clock to retire with full benefits. 90 days to go?!!!"

I love how Trump mocks his corrupt enemies. Also tweeted:

"How can FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, the man in charge, along with leakin’ James Comey, of the Phony Hillary Clinton investigation (including her 33,000 illegally deleted emails) be given $700,000 for wife’s campaign by Clinton Puppets during investigation?"

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 6:50 PM  

a deplorable rubberducky wrote:He ought to be imprisoned. What is coming out regarding the FBI is confirming everybody's most cynical suspicions. The entire agency needs to be shut down and started over. Most bosses need to be imprisoned. All current employees need to be fired, barred from future federal employment in any capacity, and barred from lobbying.

I suspect there are no good guys, no white hats, inside the FBI. They have all been turned out. If any remained, they would have either fought back against the corruption by now or resigned in the face of it rather than become complicit. Nobody currently employed there really warrants a second chance. Not worth the risk.


No deals for this guy, and he will go to jail.

And, wrong the FBI has many Good Guys, just chased out of power positions by O'Bum. There are enough good guys in FBI to restore it, it is the CIA with corruption so deep that they neeed to taken down.

Infiltration, was the main problem with FBI at top and medium levels in DC, many rank and file people honest.

Blogger bw December 23, 2017 6:54 PM  

dissatisfied with his answers
lolzlolz

James Baker, "has been reassigned."
such a familiar deep state operative name..

Anonymous CloseHauled December 23, 2017 7:00 PM  

And 5 minutes before Trump tweeted about McCabe, Q was there is /cbts/ writing:

"SEARCH crumbs: [#2]

Who is #2?

No deals.

Q"

#2 = McCabe

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:01 PM  

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Anonymous Didas Kalos December 23, 2017 7:01 PM  

There are way fewer 'good guys' and 'white hats' in the FBI than most here hope. Most will follow unconstitutional orders at a whim to save their job. Yes, they hate real criminals. So they aren't 100% corrupted. Nevertheless, they are part and parcel of an arm of the Federal Government that is basically anti-liberty.
Did 0bummer chase out a lot of the above types? Yes. Which left even a higher percentage of 100% corrupted types.
I agree with #1, 2, 3 & 5. Disagree with #4.

Anonymous CloseHauled December 23, 2017 7:05 PM  

"In short, even if Trump gets rid of, say, the top 5% of swamp creatures infesting DC, all his good will be undone with the next cuck or dem that gets elected."

And that is why anons are telling Q to tell Trump not to keep 80% of the operations classified.
Anons want the pedos and evil deeds exposed. Q then responded a day later with Trump's new EO.

People will fall back to sleep otherwise.


Anonymous Godfrey December 23, 2017 7:05 PM  

The FBI is and maybe always has been the political police of the USA. Now it's the political police of the Democratic Party. Sad really. They had a good reputation in the eyes of many Americans for a long time until now.

Anonymous Causal Lurker December 23, 2017 7:07 PM  

I'm looking at this from another department's perspective. Go ask the local or low-level people in several divisions or local agencies. They'll show you where to start making deep cuts on the organization charts, and their collective opinion is usually about right. Start with chain saws and demo in DC, and then partially gut the regional headquarters or centers. Their morale (at worker level) will soar. Remember that these are the people who have to do the job, but are constrained or stopped by higher-ups for [reasons]. The higher-ups also tend to hire and favorably promote their favored lackeys, CS rules notwithstanding. Keep your mouth shut also, because the No Fear Act really doesn't protect from from weasel-worded retribution.

For full retirement, McCabe need to be 60 with 20 years of service, or 56 with 30 years of service. Sounds like he's finishing that last year of service - maybe. TGE or Grand Inquisitor could get him in a tough position and simply fire him for insubordination, SES or not, for a refusal or for an outburst. I know of at least one GS-15 who got fired this way. Went into a meeting with the undersecretary, and came out 30 minutes later to receive the 50 action firing him, on the spot. No biscuit.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:11 PM  

25. Causal Lurker,

Yep, the good FBI guys were sent out to the sticks and being brought back. They had nothing to do with the corruption.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:15 PM  

BTW, people this is not going to stop at the USA borders, as these people will be taken out world wide. What happens when all the money supporting these fantasies dries up.

Fantasy Land is a pedo paradise in North Korea, and anyone using that term, along with "Conspiracy Theories" needs to be looked at twice.

Anonymous Zed, Lord of the Brutals December 23, 2017 7:20 PM  

Meh, the FBI was supposed to be the lead counterintelligence agency of the US. Fat lot of good they did. Assclowns. They got rolled by the commies, so to distract from that, they went after the dagos. Same crap today, they can't handle what needs handling, so they go after what they can handle, which is largely meaningless.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:21 PM  

Obviously, about 5-10% will be jailed, but many more less evil people will make deals which include staying away from power positions in the future.

Over 70% of the Senate and Congress deserve jail time, but deals need to be cut, yet the truth needs to come out, and close to the full truth, if slowly in bites and nibbles.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:28 PM  

Casual Lurker,

As you know, this is small stuff, compared to what's really going on out there. HA! I will hold back on that material for a bit.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:31 PM  

This stuff with Andrew McCabe is just signaling from the God Emperor that he knows what he is doing, and taking care of business, but minor league for the long haul.

Blogger RobertT December 23, 2017 7:33 PM  

I agree with RubberDucky. Any bad eggs left will ruin the entire pie.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:35 PM  

How the H*ll to wake total normies up, if even moderately re-pilled don't fully get it yet. Being worked on in the "Information Storm" part of this thing. Will probably take a while.

Anonymous Jeff December 23, 2017 7:37 PM  

BTW, people this is not going to stop at the USA borders

Canadian billionaires, anyone?

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:38 PM  

Jeff wrote:BTW, people this is not going to stop at the USA borders

Canadian billionaires, anyone?



Not to mention Asia and Europe.

Anonymous lpdbw December 23, 2017 7:40 PM  

@16 and other defenders of the FBI:
Have you ever had an honest conversation with a member of a local police department forced to cooperate with the FBI?

Arrogant egotistical assholes is the nicest description I heard.

Coupled with the political transvestite founder, the obvious lack of ethics in prosecutions, and the widespread incompetence and malevolence of their lab, firing them all and disbanding the organization is not an unreasonable approach.

And that doesn't even factor in their multiple counter intelligence failures, or their active participation in attempts on Pamela Geller's life.

How's that investigation into the Las Vegas shooting going, anyway?

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:40 PM  

Jeff, those people had the misfortune of being connected to Haiti/HRC, and you. know Hillary

Anonymous CloseHauled December 23, 2017 7:45 PM  

tuberman: "This stuff with Andrew McCabe is just signaling from the God Emperor that he knows what he is doing, and taking care of business, but minor league for the long haul."
------

Trump is a Cruelty Artist too, if you cross him.
Trump just wishing the cabal a merry Christmas - wonder if they will be able to sleep.

He's a good man to good people. We are blessed that he is on our side.
The man is fearless.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 7:47 PM  

lpdbw wrote:@16 and other defenders of the FBI:

Have you ever had an honest conversation with a member of a local police department forced to cooperate with the FBI?

Arrogant egotistical assholes is the nicest description I heard.

Coupled with the political transvestite founder, the obvious lack of ethics in prosecutions, and the widespread incompetence and malevolence of their lab, firing them all and disbanding the organization is not an unreasonable approach.

And that doesn't even factor in their multiple counter intelligence failures, or their active participation in attempts on Pamela Geller's life.

How's that investigation into the Las Vegas shooting going, anyway?


The Black Hat people in the DC FBI were still in place, and are only being removed now, and the DC people could come in and control any hot spot for the Deep State. The guy accused of the shooting was most likely FBI operative, but if so, he was an infiltrator.

Do you know anything about LV? Please tell? I want to here from you.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 23, 2017 7:47 PM  

@34 Jeff
@35 tuberman

One thing people don't realize is if the major players actually start to sense real danger, they'll knock each other off (literally) to prevent certain things from coming back to them.

Especially when it starts leaking that certain people are "talking". There's no honor among thieves and there is 3 decades of scores to settle, and Trump's faction has ever reason to look the other way. It helps that a lot of the big players don't that ideologically aligned. You'd be surprised how quickly you can turn people the instant it is in their economic interests to do other things.

Blogger RobertT December 23, 2017 7:56 PM  

27. Tuberman. "BTW, people this is not going to stop at the USA borders, as these people will be taken out world wide. What happens when all the money supporting these fantasies dries up. "

Already starting in Saudi Arabia? A lot of connections are going to end up right there. Fabulous wealth. A Christian friend and business associate restored the Grand mosque in Mecca by remote control after terrorist attacks in 1979. Had his finger in a lot of stuff. He was paid a ton but was never satisfied. Craved Saudi wealth. Sat on the Arab American. Still has a linkedin account but is '0ut-of-netowrk.' Whatever that means.

Anonymous Fritze December 23, 2017 8:05 PM  

“He's (Trump) a good man to good people. We are blessed that he is on our side.
The man is fearless.”

He can’t get Bill, Hillary, Meuller, Comey, NBC, or anyone else. He can’t protect Jerrod, his son, his Nat. Security advisor. He can’t win in Alabama.

But he’s a nice guy.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 8:07 PM  

I want to repeat what CloseHauled, said, that the EO was a response to the Chan people that the Truth has to come out to keep people from falling into this again in a few years. The God Emperor is LISTENING, AND REPORTING BACK TO US WITH ACTION...got that? This is imortant.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 8:09 PM  

Shills and Alt-Retards galore. Okay, some are just idiots.

Blogger Akulkis December 23, 2017 8:09 PM  

90+% of the Senate and Congress deserve a noose, or (for those who are willing to name names) a firing squad.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 23, 2017 8:11 PM  

@45 Akulkis

Come the Age of the Turbo Gibbet.

Related, Agentina has a big mess they're still trying to clean up there. Get another dose of Iran, Jews, Drugs, Hezbollah and Money Laundering.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 8:13 PM  

Akulkis wrote:90+% of the Senate and Congress deserve a noose, or (for those who are willing to name names) a firing squad.

Naw, Probably only about 71-75%, but you go in and do it for us, okay? You've got all the cheap answers.























Blogger Akulkis December 23, 2017 8:18 PM  

Saying that they deserve it does not imply that I have the power to implement it.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 8:20 PM  

The problem with simply killing all the guilty people is the world will fall apart, and billions will die.

Many of the guilty people are guilty at a much lower level the the absolutely hideous slime running this Cabal, and many of those were entrapped, with all sorts of ploys, and others with solid death treats to them and their whole families. This is not an excuse for them, but I'm just saying, some are not nearly as bad as the total filth running these things.

Blogger Joe Keenan December 23, 2017 8:27 PM  

@17 Nice quote; note the use of the interrogative though...."90 days to go?!!!" Is Donald questioning he can make to 90 days?

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 8:36 PM  

Joe Keenan wrote:@17 Nice quote; note the use of the interrogative though...."90 days to go?!!!" Is Donald questioning he can make to 90 days?



He may be doing that too. But, what he is mainly doing, and has been doing for a while now, as CloseHauled has suggested, is telling the evil Satanists, "I can see you planning, I can hear you breathing, and I'm coming to destroy you."

Anonymous NormiePiller December 23, 2017 8:48 PM  

Tuber, not sure where you got your info, and I don't know McCabe's full bio, but for an 1811, you need 20 by 50 or 25 at any age, the stuff you're talking about sounds like reg fed employee drone stuff. I'm too lazy to look his bio up on Duckduck or InfoGal but that's the norm for even GS's turned SES (as long as they have the full 6c time in..typically as an 1811, sometimes an 1801 will have it).

Blogger Dave December 23, 2017 8:49 PM  

You've got all the cheap answers.

Says the commenter who's made 16 of 51 posts to this thread alone.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 23, 2017 8:52 PM  

@51 tuberman

Yup. Trump has a massive, private intelligence network.

Related to that, when they drug Billy Bush out of hiding, Trump cleared sent some messages to a few places to not pull a stunt they could. You need to be pretty deep into the tech world to know that you can almost perfectly replicate someone's voice now. At the moment, you'd need to pour a lot of money into it, but give the Machine Learning crews another 2-3 years and all audio without explicit time-stamps is suspect.

I don't expect we'll see the attack done until 2019, but it *will* happen. This isn't a small problem, it's a big one, though I suspect they'll strike someone inside the EU first. The English-speaking world can re-route attacks like that faster.

Blogger Joe Keenan December 23, 2017 9:22 PM  

@52 Do you advance the premise that a government employee will have a pension when he is in jail for corruption? I don't care what classification the employee is, I'm pretty sure he loses everything. This may be a further subtext of The Bard's tweet. Bard is saying, "Don't delude yourself. Don't listen to NormiePiller, he doesn't care about you. I'm telling you you'll have nothing if you don't cut a deal I like."

Blogger Nathan December 23, 2017 9:33 PM  

Ah. It's tough to gage the rank-and-file support for some of these people as an outsider.

Anonymous Causal Lurker December 23, 2017 9:42 PM  

@55 Joe Keenan, doesn't need to be jail time. A felony conviction on record will cause pension to get cancelled. No biscuit. For most including SES, that's a huge hit for that time in life. The EO that Vox posted about shows where the big corruption money gets frozen out, so there's no payout or token of appreciation from unnamed sources. Cut the deal or else.

Three high level Army CS (one SES) were convicted of violating environmental laws and fined, and lost their pensions, back in the '90s. After about 10 years they got the convictions overturned and pension restored on second appeal, after they proved that the general officer above them dindu nuffin about the problems they raised to him continually - except to ignore reports, essentially hide under his desk and say nuffin, and get another star.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella December 23, 2017 10:29 PM  

tuberman, sir, would you please communicate to the people who want to inform americans, to please go to where young teen boys congregate online? Games, ifunny, snapchat, instagram, youtube videos, and such.

normal women are mothers to teens. teens show their mothers all sorts of online stuff. I'm a Twilight mom, completely not a vox day, or twitter, or ifunny fan. But my kids show me stuff. Every other mom I know gets shown trendy, funny, or serious, online stuff by their kids.

Blogger Joe Keenan December 23, 2017 11:05 PM  

@57 Thank you for the response. If possible, could you please speak to the following scenario, assume someone was indicted, then they retired, but were then convicted after they retired. Would they still lose their pension?

Blogger Delaware Blue Hen December 23, 2017 11:18 PM  

@57 The incident being referred to happened at Edgewood Arsenal, MD. A GS14, GS15 and SES were convicted. I was a young engineer at the time working there. The charges were unfair because the three did not have the authority to make the necessary actions to comply with the environmental laws. For instance, the prosecutor took them to task for not spending project funds to make infrastructural repairs. However, if they had done so, they would have been convicted of misappropriation of govt funds. The Edgewood 3 were in a no win situation. The SES was Bill Dee, the inventor of the binary chemical weapon.

Blogger Dire Badger December 23, 2017 11:18 PM  

Santa Trump:
"I see when you're sleeping, I know when You're on the take... I know when you've been bad, you stupid freaks, and I am going to take you down and put a in a hell where you will get raped every day by a gigantic negro named 'Clarence'".

Trump isn't that great of a poet.

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 11:25 PM  

Ariadne Umbrella wrote:tuberman, sir, would you please communicate to the people who want to inform americans, to please go to where young teen boys congregate online? Games, ifunny, snapchat, instagram, youtube videos, and such.

normal women are mothers to teens. teens show their mothers all sorts of online stuff. I'm a Twilight mom, completely not a vox day, or twitter, or ifunny fan. But my kids show me stuff. Every other mom I know gets shown trendy, funny, or serious, online stuff by their kids.



In a couple months, I expect alt*Hero a new comic book series to come out, and that is the exact territory you are talking about. Vox Day is putting these out, and from him and the people he's recruited I expect them to reach a huge audience of young teenager types.

But , I will try to pass this message out to some people on Reddits also in a few days. There is a particular Reddit just beginning to come out with this information as it is far more user friendly than the Chans.

Check out Tracy Beanz on YouTube, as she has a direct url to this Reddit in a discussion she had with 3-4 Chan Board Owners and Moderators.

Okay decided to get the subReddit url for you: SubReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CBTS_Stream

This will give you access to directly talk with people talking about most of what I am talking about here, and will likely even have a Chan Board Operator stop by often.

Anonymous Jay Will December 23, 2017 11:27 PM  

Deep state sub-division of concrete, centuries old, secret society.

Qanon says they signpost everything. Stupid.

Test run. Argy submarine Antarctica conspiracy. Check for clues.

First news website.... ((44)) passengers. Test complete, enemy identified.

Secret society says to reach for stars, but too far away, hopeless. A front for the diG into the Netherworld, Underworld.

Qanon - No coincidences.

Anonymous Fritze December 23, 2017 11:33 PM  

Trump is an anti-Semite scumbag. He will die in jail.

Anonymous Jay Will December 23, 2017 11:36 PM  

A MOAB right into Antacrtica netherworld for Xmas POTUS, please?

Blogger tuberman December 23, 2017 11:37 PM  

The shills will be here and other places to distract with UFO and Antarctica, perhaps other esoteric BS. Q anon has never said anything about any of this stuff, or Deep State Talking Point = Disinformation.

This idiotic crap is to be expected.

Anonymous Jay Will December 23, 2017 11:42 PM  

Anti-semitism is a front. (Jews neurotic people, just like women, so great people to use)

"You wouldn't harm a fly would you".

Drape themselves in "children" "gays" "diversity". Like gamma male pulling his Mrs in front of him cos he thinks you won't hit her.

Then they rape the children, mass abort black foetuses, and invent diseases to target gays (who they know are dead ends)

Its genius in a way. I'm glad I never got up there with them, I'm a good candidate for real evil given wrong circumstances (situational alpha).

Anonymous Jay Will December 23, 2017 11:49 PM  

UFO is a false narrative to distract. Underground infrastructure is real. Elon Musk owned boring company.

Likely some tech held back.

JFK and Trump are "reach for the stars" men. Heaven feels like is it "up". SS are nether types the go down, demoralize into the darkness men.

Anonymous simplytimothy December 24, 2017 12:46 AM  

Dismissing "9/11 was an inside job" as whackery is foolish nowadays, isn't it? There is zero reason to doubt the people who are capable of an attempted coup against Trump are equally capable of using a manufactured crisis to drive a deep state, globalist agenda.

Its a bit unsettling watching the Neocon Max Boot explicitly defending Comey, McCabe, etc..., Kristol preferring the deep state over Trump; Jennifer Rubin looking panicked as the current year changes every minute, Frum defending her,National Review espousing 'principled opposition to Trumpism'...its as if they have lost the power to lie convincingly and they know it.


We live in blessed times.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 24, 2017 1:32 AM  

FBI isn't the only possibly out-of-control agency.
Interesting infographic at 8ch. I can think of all sorts of trouble a CIA with such a power might get into. But the idea of a nuke being launched from NK (giving the CIA plausible deniability) to hit the US, Moscow, or Mecca is... disquieting.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 24, 2017 1:42 AM  

@69 simplytimothy

Most of the Jewish faction that is in the "Conservative" camp, and thus NeverTrump, respond to Trump negatively for some really deep-seated issues. But it's Identity, not Policy. Some of it just comes down to Temperament, as Trump is very American. (And New Yorker, at that.)

But most of it is actually driven by a very deep fear they may or may not understand. Trump reminds them too much of Elite Jews: he can play them like a fiddle. We know Jews have a reflex instinct to protect other Jews, but this also means that the Elite Jews can manipulate the "normal" ones with ease. Given the other cultural instincts, Jews end up highly over-represented in the Media. There is thus a class of "Media Jews" that are always seeking to save their own bacon.

If they toe the line properly, they're rewarded by being invited to the parties and making a good living. The actual best example of this is really Paul Krugman. He got a Nobel out of the arrangement, and they use him to ferry messages around. (His NYT column exists to make Leftists feel better. 300k a year for that.) If you don't, you get stuck being a PR Agent for pretty low wages, which will mean everyone in your family will look down upon you as a failure.

Their only actual principle is fear of loss, and everything is rationalized to from that. For the supposedly "high IQ" people, they're really just a collection of fast-talking Midwits with no objective morals. This is exactly why the Elite Jews abuse them so much, as it's just so easy for them.

Anonymous CloseHauled December 24, 2017 1:45 AM  

@68 'Underground infrastructure is real. Elon Musk owned boring company."

Who is the "lord of fortresses" (little 'l')?

They might think they can win this fight. What they temporarily inherit is a earth that wobbles like a drunken man (knocked off its axis). Imagine the despair.

Anonymous simplytimothy December 24, 2017 2:08 AM  

@71 thx.

I don't know if that applies to Kristol. He organized the meeting on Billionaire Island with Romney, Rove, etc, to derail the Trump nomination and victory.

Rubin and Boot, yeah, I can see that.

The egregious Frum? I don't know him well enough.

Trump is teaching us power politics..what the game is, how to play it and how to win at it (the method is quintessentially American in character...fundamentals, excellence, follow through, love of your fellow Americans..). Have the Neocons ever had competition? I gather they did in Russia where they got beaten by Putin.

I get the impression they are used to playing us like Agobard of Lyon and get frantic when hit back.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 24, 2017 2:51 AM  

@73 simplytimothy

Once you key in on what drives a person, it's not too hard to explain. Bill Kristol will forever be pissed off that he can't be "Lord Kristol of Fairfax". He's an 18th Century Imperialist stuck in a 21st Century country whose people rather much would prefer not to be in an empire.

As for pushback, American foreign policy was Anti-Communist, then "Pro-Sell everything for Clinton's Library", then foolish adventures in the Middle East. The NeoCons only had much influence for a short time, then promptly discredited themselves. So while I see the point, I don't think that's the issue specifically.

As for Jewish influence, realize that Trump is very good at playing Jews against each other. It's probably the reason he & Bibi get along so well. They're both masters at the craft. So the signaling they're responding to with Trump isn't exterior like Agobard, but interior like Trump is an Elite Jew. (Important point here: Elite Jews are the ones that get normal Jews kicked out of countries & killed. The normies pay for the crimes of the Elites, in this case.)

As for Agobard and the ways Jews get influence, it's important to keep in mind that until Israel was founded in 1948, Jews as a group hadn't done anything productive in centuries. They focus on careers that allow for raising large amounts of funds, but it's almost always in non-essential areas. This creates a situation where they will work really, really hard to gain influence, otherwise they'll get booted really quickly. (Having no objective morals creates high-conflict social situations really fast.)

It also points to how they got driven out so many times. All of those Guilds and "secret" societies that the Europeans established. You basically run secret operations against them, and they never see it coming. Since they only have the power of persuasion, if it doesn't work, they get the boot. Though pretty much no other group expends as much energy writing fake histories, so a lot of things get lost/confused because of that activity.

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Anonymous simplytimothy December 24, 2017 3:35 AM  

@74 Once you key in on what drives a person, it's not too hard to explain. Bill Kristol will forever be pissed off that he can't be "Lord Kristol of Fairfax". He's an 18th Century Imperialist ..

I lack the talent to experience what he is experiencing; it is alien to me. I just don't see one's station as bestowing whatever the heck he think is due him. I understand that some Europeans can do that; I have run into one or two in my time.

I will pay attention to your point of view when considering their behavior; perhaps with time, I will understand it.

cheers.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 24, 2017 4:27 AM  

@75 Snidely Whiplash

Lol.


@73 simplytimothy

Thinking about it, I'm kind of annoyed that I've had to invent as much thought as I have to understanding a specific group dynamic of another population group due to their outsized interior influence. Globalism really is a War Crime.

Hrmm... there's some memetic potential there. "Prosecute War Criminals! Nuremberg for Globalists!" Could go a few ways. "Gallows for Globalists" would work on the Chans, but a little too much for normies. "Guantanamo for Globalists!" A little better. Needs work.

Back on point, though, I think I just explained the rise of Western "secret societies". It's a Game Theory adaptation to a group that can blend into the local culture but will seek to exploit it for its own ends. It's an anti-parasite approach, as it establishes ultra-high trust groups that can't be exploited, easily, by the low trust infiltrators. Also explains why the RCC was always trying to crack down on them. It was competition for power.

Interesting things to figure out when you talk about obscure topics. Though it does explain the directed propaganda campaigns, especially against conspiracies of "choice" against conspiracies of ethno-groups.

The fact that Trump attended Norman Vincent Peale's church growing up isn't lost on me, in this discussion. Peale was a high-level Freemason.


@77 simplytimothy

I can't really claim too much credit on the Kristol stuff. Someone on twitter pointed out he was getting the vapors over something a few months ago. That plus jumping for joy over the strikes in Syria meant his mindset is Imperialist and very Victorian. Hillary offered a chance for expending more money & lives invading a country, so Bill was always very pro-Hillary.

There's always the issue that the NeoCons were always just hawkish Leftists, but the "New Left" is anti-Military and pro-Communist Revolution. That didn't work for them, so they ended up becoming "Neo-Conservatives". Being that the Right is re-establishing itself, the NeoCons are also now in political no-man's land, which means we're back to them reacting out of fear. That they're catastrophic failures never seems to cross their minds.

Blogger Wolfman at Large December 24, 2017 4:50 AM  

and Trumpmas might be real.
What the hell is going on in the world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75tJkLB_upE

Anonymous JAG December 24, 2017 11:15 AM  

http://www.redpilledfrogs.com/2017/12/journalist-who-vowed-to-expose-george.html?m=1

Blogger van helsing December 24, 2017 3:24 PM  

... speaking of deep-sixed... on tonight's episode of "McCabe's Navy", PT-73 is decommissioned into an old-time tramp steamer...

Blogger Akulkis December 24, 2017 4:57 PM  

@Will

You make a deplorable rubber ducky's point -- when Comey decided to protect Hillary, by deliberately misinterpreting the laws on the handling of classified materials, YOU QUIT.

What does that say about those who are still working for the FBI?

Blogger Akulkis December 24, 2017 8:16 PM  

@van heling

Sorry, too obscure; I don't get it, other than McHale's Navy being in the 50's, and the McHale character was a Petty Officer who would have been a WW2 vet.

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