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Tuesday, December 12, 2017

The sins of the Pink Oktobrists

So, is the NFL going to fine itself for the behavior of its employees?
Several current and former National Football League TV Network employees, including former players and a former executive producer, were accused of sexually harassing a female employee, Bloomberg reported, citing an amended complaint by the woman. Jami Cantor, a former wardrobe stylist at the network, claimed ex-players including Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor and Heath Evans allegedly groped and made sexually explicit comments at her.

The lawsuit filed Monday against NFL Enterprises in Los Angeles Superior Court also named Eric Weinberger, the former executive producer at the NFL’s TV network. Cantor, who was fired in October 2016, said Weinberger sent “several nude pictures of himself and sexually explicit texts” and told her she was “put on earth to pleasure me.” In the complaint, she also alleges Weinberger pressed his crotch against her shoulder and asked her to touch it.

While Faulk — an analyst with the network — would ask Cantor “deeply personal and invasive questions” about her sex life, Taylor sent Cantor “sexually inappropriate” pictures of himself and a video of him masturbating in the shower, Bloomberg reported, citing the filing.

Following the accusations, the network said in a statement that Faulk, Taylor, and Evans were suspended as an investigation is underway into the claims made by Cantor.

Weinberger is now president of sports commentator Bill Simmons’s media group. Simmons has praised Weinberger in the past, saying that "He’s a talented guy with an impeccable reputation, someone who is uniquely equipped to help me build an innovative multimedia company from scratch."
Seriously, what are these guys thinking? Do such lame pickup attempts ever actually work? It's almost as if these guys have never met nor talked to women before. And why are liberal bastions such hives of sexual harassment?

Emmitt Smith's father's rule about the end zone applies to women as well. "Son, show a little class. Act like you've been there before."

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Blogger The Kurgan December 12, 2017 6:21 AM  

The gammaness of gammas never ceases to surprise me.
I always think I can't think less of them, but damn... they keep lowering that bar every time.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club December 12, 2017 6:34 AM  

I'm no alpha (probably not even delta), but I've never even had the thought that openly and actively demonstrating "I'm a chronically masturbating loser!" would be an effective means of impressing women.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer December 12, 2017 6:34 AM  

The creepy behavior is over the top, but the pictures seem to show up in all of these accusations? Who are these men sending unsolicited nudes and has that ever worked out well for any man ever?

I am not an expert on how women think but I have always got the impression that it is rare to find a woman really into pornography and that sending them nude photos doesn't really stimulate them unless they already have an interest in you for other reasons. They don't think like men when it comes to that sort of thing. At least that has been my impression but I could be wrong.

Blogger Gapeseed December 12, 2017 6:39 AM  

It will be interesting to see how Simmons handles this.

Blogger Mark December 12, 2017 6:45 AM  

Vox, I think you mean Jim Brown's father with the "been there before" advice.

Blogger McChuck December 12, 2017 6:49 AM  

Let's play spot the trend: Faulk (black), Taylor (black), Evans (liberal white), and (((Weinberger))).

Anonymous Icicle December 12, 2017 6:51 AM  

It's the women sexually harassing me. So strange reading these stories. Like some mirror-universe.

Blogger Michael Maier December 12, 2017 6:55 AM  

Fame is like a steaming lube injection to most chicks. Loser musicians in NOTHING bands get hot poon without trying. I've SEEN it!

And these gammas can't make anything happen?

I feel like a sex god reading about these losers. Which is REALLY sad.

Blogger VD December 12, 2017 6:56 AM  

Vox, I think you mean Jim Brown's father with the "been there before" advice.

No. I don't. What part of "do not 'correct' me" is hard to understand? The elder Mr. Smith may have been echoing Jim Brown, but there is no question that he gave Emmitt that advice or that Emmitt listened to him after being criticized by him for dancing after scoring his first touchdown at the University of Florida.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer December 12, 2017 7:07 AM  

Emmitt Smith's father's rule about the end zone applies to women as well. "Son, show a little class. Act like you've been there before."

About 10 years ago I thought how striking this would be if a player did not engage in any celebration whatsoever after scoring a touchdown or breaking off a large run or on defense after making a sack. Just run back to the huddle or sideline with barely any acknowledgement of what he had just done. At first, fans wouldn't notice, but eventually it would get picked up and they would stand out for being the "classy" player. Especially if they were a top 20 player in the league.

Blogger Matthew Funk December 12, 2017 7:11 AM  

Do such lame pickup attempts ever actually work?

This is unknowable. People who do things like this will brag up and down how many notches are in their headboard, but these are not people who can be counted on at their word. People who can be counted on at their word, don't do things like this. As such, we shall never know.

Blogger Tank December 12, 2017 7:12 AM  

I think Smith's father was paraphrasing Vince Lombardi.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 12, 2017 7:30 AM  

I wonder when we reach the "shakedown" phase of this? Swamp draining opens up a lot of opportunities for different groups, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

Blogger Phillip George December 12, 2017 7:30 AM  

Maybe the NFL could consider a two state solution.
A man's, and people who identify as male, safe space where the rights to share photos of masturbating in the shower is protected by first amendment rights.

The rules need to be redefined. The two state solution could create a safe working environment for everyone who identifies with one state or the other. For those who like neither there is Mexico or Canada, NAFTA minus the middle bit.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club December 12, 2017 7:36 AM  

Fortunately, a search of the internet has provided me with a perfect go-to guide on talking to women (by a woman, so you know it's gold!):

https://everydayfeminism.com/2013/05/how-to-compliment-a-woman-without-objectifying-them/#at_pco=smlwn-1.0&at_si=5a2fc88dc16b6cc5&at_ab=per-2&at_pos=0&at_tot=1

Anonymous Looking Glass December 12, 2017 7:37 AM  

OT, or maybe not, but it appears the Mayor of San Francisco just dropped over dead. Possible causes: Heart Attack, Trump Curse, Hand of God or his heart deciding to avoid a Hollywood Values scandal.

Anonymous Carbon blob December 12, 2017 7:38 AM  

@10

Barry Sanders.

Blogger Phillip George December 12, 2017 7:38 AM  

Maybe the NFL puritans could sail a convoy of MayflowerII players back to Plymouth to establish freedom of artistic expression change rooms? Brexit needs diversity and inclusion. NFL refugees can provide both.

Blogger pdwalker December 12, 2017 7:49 AM  

I can’t understand behaviour that’d barely be acceptable in a low class Bangkok brothel being done so...almost publically. What is wrong with these people? And in this day and age? Pure Stupidity!

Anonymous MaskettaMan December 12, 2017 7:59 AM  

O lord, make my enemies ridiculous.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 12, 2017 8:03 AM  

The reason alphas don't generate this kind of press is that part of being an alpha is a modicum of awareness-of-others, as in studying body language.

It's really not that difficult to tell, early on, if a girl appreciates the approach. If she's resistant, there's lots of fish in the sea. If she's worth a second effort, charm...not force...is the only possible move (and it is still a long shot unless you're really that charming.)

These clowns are typical; their first mistake is believing their own PR. Then again, leftism is a psychosis so indulging their inner fantasies of sexual irresistibly is right in their wheelhouse.

Blogger Lazarus December 12, 2017 8:03 AM  

Carbon blob wrote:@10

Barry Sanders.


Its been attributed to Barry Sander's father, almost any famous coach. people outside football...... its a meme.

But there is this:

The father did demand dignity on the field. When the son launched into a look-at-me touchdown dance early in his career at Florida, the father scolded him.

"Son, show a little class," the father said. "Act like you've been there before."

The son listened and never danced again.


__ Dallas News August 7, 2010

Blogger Desdichado December 12, 2017 8:05 AM  

@ Mark and Tank. Regardless of where he got the phrase, Emmit (one t) Smith did tell his son exactly that. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/other-sports/emmittsmith/2010/08/07/emmitt-smith-lives-dream-his-father-couldn_t

Blogger mjusiq December 12, 2017 8:07 AM  

Some of these guys are mentally sick. Anecdotal - a few weeks ago a good friend and his gf moved to a smal city 4 hours drive away. They had rented a lorry and a driver. My friend called me and told this driver had suddenly sent his gf pictures of perverted sex! Disturbing stuff. Several times. She is a decent woman. One of the few. We called this sick driver dude and made it very clear he would get a not so friendly visit if it happens again. Hopefully my friends make a case of it with the police.

Blogger dc.sunsets December 12, 2017 8:10 AM  

Leftism can be defined as clinging mentally to a model of "what ought to be" and rejecting "what is."

What we're seeing is leftist cognition on the personal plane. (And we thought leftist politics was ugly....)

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 12, 2017 8:16 AM  

The Kurgan wrote:The gammaness of gammas never ceases to surprise me.

I always think I can't think less of them, but damn... they keep lowering that bar every time.


Now, that I've had to chance to look at this (way more than I ever wanted to) one big pattern that keeps emerging is that the perpetrators in questions all beleive that they "deserve" to have sex with these women. That being feminists gives them an "earned right".


File this one under SJWs always project.

I ran across an article not too long ago that featured a college professor offering up this nugget of bullshit

“From those four distal expectations come the proximal attitudes and behaviors, like ‘I deserve to have access to women’s bodies,’” he explains.

"Deserve." A rather interesting choice of word don't you think? "Deserve," as in I have earned this. This is my right.

I said all the things I was supposed to say about how important feminism was. I retweeted until my fingers bled. I clapped along when I heard women chanting, "no means, no. Whatever I wear, wherever I go!" I donated money to Planned Parenthood because feminists told me to. I voted for women. I made rude comments to men who said an attractive a women who had just walked by was indeed attractive. I supported the right of women to have sex with whoever they want. And now they are supposed to want me because of all that.

I earned this.

The deal was that they are supposed to find me sexually attractive now and they don't! It's not fair! I've paid for my indulgence! I've earned a right to sex with attractive women! I deserve access to women's bodies!


Gamma Males were told that if they supported feminism then straight women in their early twenties would behave like gay men in their late forties. There was the implied promise that if they did their part some of that freely available sex would finally come their way. They have paid for their indulgence, so they may sin without guilt.

The problem of course is that Gender's Studies Departments do not get a vote in what men or women find sexually attractive.

Anonymous Causal Lurker December 12, 2017 8:19 AM  

I know! The players get to use the "Muh Kongcushun" excuse, cause de brain be broke. This reads beyond Secret King Syndrome. Pathetic set of unruly boys.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 12, 2017 8:27 AM  

Brett Favre he of dick pic fame and the HoF career.

Blogger SemiSpook37 December 12, 2017 8:30 AM  

Disappointed but not surprised by Ike Taylor’s involvement in this. He’s one of the very few to be smoked by a Tim Tebow pass for a TD in a playoff OT, so this accusation, if true, explains a lot.

Anonymous vfm December 12, 2017 8:30 AM  

"I can’t understand behaviour that’d barely be acceptable in a low class Bangkok brothel being done so...almost publically. What is wrong with these people? And in this day and age? Pure Stupidity!"

Sounds about normal for "professional" sports.

Blogger Gordon December 12, 2017 8:38 AM  

A. Guy likes it when girls send him nudes.
B. Guy assumes that girls will like it when he sends his.

There's a term for this. It's on the tip of my tongue...someone should write a book about this phenomenon.

Blogger Elwin Ransom December 12, 2017 8:48 AM  

Wait, what, Gamma, you bunch of manly men think these guys are Gamma? Ugh, clueless.

Seriously, go read the descriptions again, this point and shriek Gamma bit is getting old.

There are a lot of explanations for this, none of which involve these guys being Gamma.

Low IQ meatheads with really bad judgement, a sly honey pot building a lawsuit, entitled men who are used to getting away with everything since being identified at a young age as elite athletes…

Let me help, Simpsons Comic Book Guy=Gamma, Brett Favre or Marshall Faulk=Not Gamma.

Blogger Johnny December 12, 2017 8:58 AM  

Seriously, what are these guys thinking? Do such lame pickup attempts ever actually work?

Allowing that it is unlikely to be a successful pickup if they persist then apparently they find the behavior rewarding for reasons other than a pickup. Two potential motives come to mind for me. Simple exhibitionism, or it is a status thing in that they are proving they are such hot stuff that, hey, look what I can get away with. Than again, aside from sexual opportunity, maybe they really don't like women all that much and a pretend hookup effort is really an excuse for harassment.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 12, 2017 8:59 AM  

Those guys do pay for more of it than you think.

Blogger James Dixon December 12, 2017 9:04 AM  

> I think Smith's father was paraphrasing Vince Lombardi.

It goes back at least that far, yes.

Blogger APL December 12, 2017 9:13 AM  

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Blogger APL December 12, 2017 9:17 AM  

(((Weinberger))),(((Weinstein))),(((Al Franken ))),(((Mat Lauer))), (((Louis CK))), (((Woody Allen))), (((Roman Polanski)).

Is this a pattern I see before me??

Anonymous TheTruthIsAlwaysUnacceptable December 12, 2017 9:41 AM  

The first time I could find was 1967 by Vince Lombardi.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/nfl/daily/jan00/27/coaches27.htm

Blogger Rashadjin December 12, 2017 9:42 AM  

I've got a feeling that this isn't really Gamma behavior either. Well, the nudes n' such via phone have a dash of it.

The crux is some of these men are flaunting their sexuality in person, in the moment. They're performing because they're not operating in the Secret King mentality.

It's more like SJW levels of entitlement and immunity from consequences. Maybe something like deranged, synthetic alpha type behavior that's about degrading the women they use for reasons of a malicious (sub)conscious.

Weinberger certainly has the cloud people mentality. There's multiple things going on here.

Anonymous fop December 12, 2017 10:01 AM  

It's gotten to the point where if you break up a pass on 2nd and 10 and DON'T pound your chest like King Kong while shaking your head, flexing your biceps and screaming obscenities, you are somehow perceived as not trying hard enough.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 12, 2017 10:02 AM  

Or the protected classes eating one another, maybe they should just settle for a public flogging of Evans as the scapecracker and be done with it.

Blogger Bucephalus December 12, 2017 10:09 AM  

Women are the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on man.

Blogger Rashadjin December 12, 2017 10:25 AM  

@Bucephalus

Well, aren't you the special, bitter, defeatist victim.

Here's a hint: Men test ideas. Women test men.

I get the sense that you've been found wanting.

Blogger Bucephalus December 12, 2017 10:27 AM  

Actually, I am quite liberated!

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass December 12, 2017 10:49 AM  

"Taylor sent Cantor 'sexually inappropriate' pictures of himself and a video of him masturbating in the shower, Bloomberg reported, citing the filing."

As if there are appropriate pictures of doing that?!?

Hmm...who else has sent photos of his genitalia? Oh yeah, that's right Schindler...to his mistress!

If only Gammas like those from the article and Schindler etc. were smoked like this (slightly NSFW).

Blogger haus frau December 12, 2017 10:50 AM  

I know that men are visual and thats why porn is attractive to them. Matbe this jerk off, indecent exposure thing is projection on their part of what they would like to see from a woman?
Anyway it must work sometimes or they wouldnt do it so consistently but probably not for the reasons they think. These are men of some wealth and status. Many women have humored them when they did this if not for outright blackmail then so they could laugh at it with their friends or save it for later (just in case).

Blogger Gordon December 12, 2017 10:54 AM  

I guess, with that $90 million commitment to SJ, one could say that the NFL is fining itself. Yeah, they were going to spend it on useful stuff, but still.

I wonder sometimes. You're very successful, you own a frickin' team, you get powerful people kissing your ass for a couple of suite invites. What's more, you can do nothing at all and you're going to receive $100 million a year, every year.

And you won't live forever. Why deal with the crap? Just go along, and the check shows up every month. Why fight, get your name trashed, and not get invited to that party in LA where some B-list starlet polishes your rod?

Who cares what happens after you're gone? Let that nephew who thinks he knows it all deal with the fallout.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 12, 2017 10:54 AM  

Hey you know my rule has always been with my kids to honor your father and mother, do not steal, do not kill, etc...

Uhhhhh ackchuaaallyyy didn't you mean to say God's rules in the Ten Commandments?

Blogger Rashadjin December 12, 2017 10:54 AM  

@Bucephalus

Actually, I am quite liberated!

What's that, Redpill stage 3?

1)Disillusionment
2)Rage
3)"Liberated" (and bitter)

I may not be the canonical expert on this one, but I'm pretty sure there's a stage or two after that. Sort of like how Vox complains about the MGTOW mindset as being very insufficient.

Do try to avoid being stuck there forever.

Also, being found wanting is what kicks you into stage 1. More often than not.

Blogger Bucephalus December 12, 2017 11:00 AM  

I'm not even human, I am equine. But have at it, and tell me more about me.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella December 12, 2017 11:07 AM  

Um, that woman is in sports. They don't have a filter. At All.

Aziz Ansari covers this in his book on tech and dating. Dick pics and 'send nude' requests are the modern equivalent of "Hey, how you doin?"

Anonymous BBGKB December 12, 2017 11:23 AM  

Who are these men sending unsolicited nudes and has that ever worked out well for any man ever?

It works out great for gays. Well except for Mass (((senator))) Rosenberg last week.
http://www.governing.com/topics/politics/tns-mass-rosenberg-senate-president-harassment-husband.html

Mayor of San Francisco just dropped over dead. Possible causes:

Not listing drug OD? Why hasn't someone put rat poisoned cocaine out near Joe Biden's son?

Blogger Rashadjin December 12, 2017 11:25 AM  

@Bucephalus

I'm not even human, I am equine.

I ain't telling so much as translating back. And ho boy...You keep telling plenty.

But then, people never quite seem to appreciate a good mirror.

Which is where I ruin the game. Oh well. Besides, excavating furrydom is a tall order, especially here.

Blogger Bucephalus December 12, 2017 11:40 AM  

Nah...you didn't ruin the game, you give yourself way too much credit. It is all in fun, my good man. I look forward to reading more from you, but for now, I am galloping off to Thessaly to seek out Philoneicus!

Blogger Danby December 12, 2017 12:16 PM  

fop wrote:It's gotten to the point where if you break up a pass on 2nd and 10 and DON'T pound your chest like King Kong while shaking your head, flexing your biceps and screaming obscenities, you are somehow perceived as not trying hard enough.
And that's how you get the Seahawks chimpout after Sunday's game.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 12, 2017 12:21 PM  

Seriously, what are these guys thinking? Do such lame pickup attempts ever actually work?

Probably worked good enough for them when they were playing college ball. Plus in college the athletic dept. plus the alumni association totally would be able to pay off the girls it didn't work on to keep them quiet.

Blogger Bob Loblaw December 12, 2017 12:45 PM  

Seriously, what are these guys thinking? Do such lame pickup attempts ever actually work?

For famous and/or rich people? Yeah, they probably do.

Blogger Danby December 12, 2017 12:48 PM  

Celebrity is like crack for most pretty girls.

Blogger lowercaseb December 12, 2017 1:47 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Mayor of San Francisco just dropped over dead. Possible causes:

It was the Dim Mak (点脉).

Well...After Rose Pak died people in Chinatown have been calling for his ouster. They probably hired the same guy who did Bruce Lee in the 60s.

Actually, in all seriousness...get yourself some popcorn. You are about to see a downright Dem vs socialist vs anarchist political bloodbath here in the city. Ed Lee was boring enough to keep all the different district factions relatively peaceful. Loud and whiny, but peaceful.

Blogger DonReynolds December 12, 2017 2:36 PM  

Vox....."Seriously, what are these guys thinking? Do such lame pickup attempts ever actually work? It's almost as if these guys have never met nor talked to women before. And why are liberal bastions such hives of sexual harassment?"

These are fair questions and you deserve answers. My best stab...which may not be very good....is that women have become part of the REWARD.

Football heroes expect women to be part of the reward. Cheerleaders are the reward for being a champion. Victory proves their worthiness, which makes them desirable. Comes the conquering hero and the women lay at his feet, all part of the reward for being a champion....and just making the team proves it.

But one need not be a sports hero to be a champion. The same rush can come from being rich, or being powerful by virtue of position. The supervisor, the manager, the director, the chairman who directs the future destiny (and careers) of file clerks, and starlets, and midwits, and budding talents. Sometimes they just need inside information or a break or troop schooled or groomed or introduced to someone else or discovered. Obviously, there must be a reward for services so vital and beneficial. They should be grateful.

Male Feminists also fall into this same category. They "support" Feminist women so there must be a reward. They should be grateful.

I said that women have become part of the reward....and that is false. The women have ALWAYS been part of the reward, as far back as anyone cares to look...for as long as there is any record. Women have been part of the reward and women have needed men to do better and women have used men as much as men have used them. What may be changing (for some women) is the idea that women are not part of the reward anymore. This will close more doors than it will open.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM December 12, 2017 4:29 PM  

Before I read all the other comments, I would point out that the average IQ of the players or former players in the NFL is somewhat lower than the general population. All I can say about the executives is you become what and who you hang around with.

The ratings are down for many reasons, thuggery, fights on the field, and now it seems that the players are undressing on the field after the games. I guess they want to show off their muscles and tattoos. They must think we are dying to see those. And I get sooooo tired of the celebration after each and every play like they have won the super bowl. Yeah, act like you have been there before!

Blogger Bob Loblaw December 12, 2017 7:19 PM  

It was the Dim Mak

When a 65 year old chubby guy drops dead I don't know if we need to read too much into it.

Blogger Owen December 13, 2017 9:31 AM  

Lee was a str8 arrow so far as I know. We'll get someone more crazy now. For San Francisco he was considered moderate.

Anonymous SaltHarvest December 13, 2017 11:45 PM  

Oh no, these pickup attempts worked... until she got fired. A similar set of circumstances can be framed a number of ways if photos were being passed around. Retaliation is just another form of reciprocation.

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