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Wednesday, January 24, 2018

"A massive scandal brewing"

Thunder is beginning to rumble in the mainstream media:
During the financial crisis, the federal government bailed out banks it declared “too big to fail.” Fearing their bankruptcy might trigger economic Armageddon, the feds propped them up with taxpayer cash.

Something similar is happening now at the FBI, with the Washington wagons circling the agency to protect it from charges of corruption. This time, the appropriate tag line is “too big to believe.”

Yet each day brings credible reports suggesting there is a massive scandal involving the top ranks of America’s premier law enforcement agency. The reports, which feature talk among agents of a “secret society” and suddenly missing text messages, point to the existence both of a cabal dedicated to defeating Donald Trump in 2016 and of a plan to let Hillary Clinton skate free in the classified email probe.

If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.
Notice that the headline is that "evidence suggests" rather than a reliance upon rumors, whispers, reports, or insiders. Which means that unlike the special investigator's search for collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, there is almost certainly a substantive there there.
An FBI informant has apparently informed Congress that a secret society at the FBI was holding secret meetings off-site after the election of Donald Trump. On Special Report with Bret Baier Tuesday evening, Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) called it "corruption of the highest levels of the FBI."
So much for the FBI's once-pristine reputation. The FBI is now circling the wagons, as is the NSA, despite what they once said about the Nixon White House and how the problem isn't so much the original crime as the coverup. The problem in this case appears to be that the crimes are so bad, and so serious, that they are even worse than those that were subsequently committed in the coverup.

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122 Comments:

Blogger The Kurgan January 24, 2018 8:11 AM  

If Hillary ever gets her dues I expect to see actual archangels in full armour coming down from the sky in the final charge against Hell.

Blogger Johnny January 24, 2018 8:21 AM  

Maybe Trump is doing well with Sessions. There is only so much dirt to dig up. Proceeding slowly keeps it in the public eye. And Sessions by his demeanor is a hard person to peg as a fanatic. As for buzz words, I love the secret society label. It is a real hook to keep the public paying attention.

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2018 8:22 AM  

I wonder how the Clintons will squirm out of this one.

Blogger Bobiojimbo January 24, 2018 8:28 AM  

@3 Widlast - Probably pull a Polanski and never return to the USA.

Blogger Salt January 24, 2018 8:29 AM  

Johnny wrote:As for buzz words, I love the secret society label.

The Skull and Bones of the Democrats?

Anonymous JAG January 24, 2018 8:30 AM  

Bobiojimbo wrote:@3 Widlast - Probably pull a Polanski and never return to the USA.

Maybe they can hang out with Obama in Kenya.

Blogger Anchorman January 24, 2018 8:38 AM  

Notice, also, there are serious calls within the Democratic Party to stop the "Trump impeachment" talk.

It's as if they fear the investigations are leading too close to certain things and they don't want to enrage the executive branch with an unpredictable president who may just have It in him to burn it all down, rather than help the deep state bury bodies "for the good of the country."

Blogger Johnny January 24, 2018 8:42 AM  

Well, here come the slanders. (CNN)

"Sessions' aura of integrity fades with report of interference with FBI"

We sure do have a creepy bunch of people in positions of power.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 24, 2018 8:44 AM  

It's starting to seep into Normieville. Loved the J. Edgar Comey zinger. If Trump and Q team really have a text message from FBI discussing assassinating Trump, then FBI/DOJ need to be razed to the ground.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 24, 2018 8:45 AM  

There is nowhere on the planet the Clintons can hide.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 24, 2018 8:46 AM  

What will be interesting is when charges are actually filed on all these senior leaders to see who will squeal first, and how far up the chain they can get such as Clinton, certain senators and even Obama.

Blogger APL January 24, 2018 8:46 AM  

"The problem in this case appears to be that the crimes are so bad, and so serious, that they are even worse than those that were subsequently committed in the coverup."

Sedition, plotting against the constitution, and the Democrat favourite subverting Democracy.


"Maybe Trump is doing well with Sessions."

He was supposedly well respected, but any time I see him on the box he comes across as a bumbling stumbling dotard. I hope looks are deceiving in this instance.

Blogger APL January 24, 2018 8:48 AM  

JAG: "Maybe they can hang out with Obama in Kenya."

Why not Haiti? I'm told they have a following there.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 24, 2018 8:48 AM  

An FBI informant has apparently informed Congress that a secret society at the FBI was holding secret meetings off-site after the election of Donald Trump.

What do you want to bet that we know this due to the members arrogance? They probably met during work hours, sent out a calendar invite to work email addresses, rented conference space, paid for caterers and then submitted expense reports to the FBI to pay for the whole thing.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 24, 2018 8:48 AM  

Oh the FBI news is insightful
And the POTUS is feeling spiteful
Where the Deep State is concerned
Let it burn, let it burn, let it burn

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 24, 2018 8:49 AM  

Some of these people are in GITMO, Deigo Garcia and other rendition centers. A lot of people haven't been seen or heard from some for up to two months.

Meanwhile McCabe and Comey have lawyered up.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 24, 2018 8:55 AM  

Remember, it's not just the Feebs, it's also the Justice Department leaders who were in the secret meetings. Just think of all the cases over the last eight years that will be overturned because of corrupt investigators and prosecutors.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 24, 2018 8:59 AM  

Are any of us truly surprised? When the Scandal of the Age truly erupts, it's going to rain red pills for a very long time.

Classic meme, BTW.

Anonymous Andrew E. January 24, 2018 9:03 AM  

This is OT but these quotes from Commerce Secretary at Davos are so good I wanted to leave them here:

Wilbur Ross on trade: "You are aware of the actions taken yesterday. You are aware of the some of the actions that have preceded it. THERE WILL BE MORE TO COME."

Wilbur Ross fires back at India's Modi and Canada's Trudeau:
"Many countries are very good at the rhetoric of free trade, but, in fact, actually practice extreme protectionism. That's a problem the president is quite determined to deal with. You saw that yesterday."

Is the US preparing for a trade war?
Here's what Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross says:
"Trade wars are fought every single day. ...A trade war has been in place for quite a while. The difference is the US troops are now coming to the ramparts."


https://twitter.com/byHeatherLong/status/956089297832235008

Blogger pyrrhus January 24, 2018 9:09 AM  

The top ranks of these agencies and departments have been engaged in high treason and the systematic violation of Federal law on behalf of Obama, Clinton, and probably the Bushes...What's the maximum capacity of Gitmo, again?

Blogger Quilp January 24, 2018 9:12 AM  

I suppose the drip drip through the press affords some political opportunities along the way, but all the hype with no evidence so far is even now getting stale. All the "outrageous", "unbelievable" etc claims by politicians who have seen the evidence is starting to feel like a Hannity tick tock. Is this a media event, or is it an investigation leading to consequences.

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2018 9:12 AM  

"What's the maximum capacity of Gitmo, again?"

Stack'em like cordwood and you could fit thousands.

Blogger Silly but True January 24, 2018 9:16 AM  

https://infogalactic.com/info/Crucifixion

"...but remains in occasional use in some countries."

Blogger Shimshon January 24, 2018 9:17 AM  

As seen on Drudge.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/congress-fbi-russia-republicans-escalate-probes-364616

As early as next Wednesday, the panel is expected to employ a never-before-used process to disclose the memo, put together by staff of its chairman, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.). If it does, Trump will have up to five days to either approve or reject their decision. White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders declined to say what Trump would do, but she endorsed “full transparency.”

Don't think only the bad guys can do innovative interpretations of law and procedure.

Next Wednesday is POTUS SOTU.

Blogger Silly but True January 24, 2018 9:19 AM  

For tip-top keks, Trump should create by Executive Order a position titled "Sergeant-at-Arms of the Supreme Court" within the DoJ that would be the lead prosecutor for this whole thing.

Blogger Shimshon January 24, 2018 9:19 AM  

Given how rapidly things are developing, perhaps SOTU will end up with a bigger audience than the Superbowl.

Anonymous Simplytimothy January 24, 2018 9:22 AM  

Speculating here. Byron York has an article in the Wash. Examiner re the intansigence of #NeverTrump. Of the six interviewed, five are #Neocon Jews. I strongly suspect when the Storm media hacks are named that those neocons will be among them.

Blogger Jeff Wood January 24, 2018 9:27 AM  

I have to apologise to you USians that the British GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters, the Brit NSA) is probably at least knee deep in this stuff.

It would seem unlikely that GCHQ, and MI6, knew nothing of the Russian "Dossier", even if they took no active part in its production.

I hope that when the useless Theresa May visited President Trump, she went with a full confession which has helped the God-Emperor since.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 24, 2018 9:27 AM  

I really, really hope McCabe gets it. He's the most obnoxious imho.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass January 24, 2018 9:32 AM  

"So much for the FBI's once-pristine reputation. The FBI is now circling the wagons, as is the NSA, despite what they once said about the Nixon White House and how the problem isn't so much the original crime as the coverup. The problem in this case appears to be that the crimes are so bad, and so serious, that they are even worse than those that were subsequently committed in the coverup."

Notice the thrashing of the ranking members on the committees about how this is impugning Mueller's investigation. I'm personally looking forward to Comey, Strzok, Page, and others going to jail.

Johnny wrote:Maybe Trump is doing well with Sessions. There is only so much dirt to dig up. Proceeding slowly keeps it in the public eye. And Sessions by his demeanor is a hard person to peg as a fanatic. As for buzz words, I love the secret society label. It is a real hook to keep the public paying attention.

@2 Conspiracies fascinate normies.

Jeff aka Orville wrote:It's starting to seep into Normieville. Loved the J. Edgar Comey zinger. If Trump and Q team really have a text message from FBI discussing assassinating Trump, then FBI/DOJ need to be razed to the ground.

@9 Razed to the ground and nobody who works there allowed to work in the federal government again.

Shimshon wrote:Given how rapidly things are developing, perhaps SOTU will end up with a bigger audience than the Superbowl.

@26 That'd be something!

Jeff Wood wrote:I have to apologise to you USians that the British GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters, the Brit NSA) is probably at least knee deep in this stuff.

It would seem unlikely that GCHQ, and MI6, knew nothing of the Russian "Dossier", even if they took no active part in its production.

I hope that when the useless Theresa May visited President Trump, she went with a full confession which has helped the God-Emperor since.


@28 I've read that NSA spies on Brits and viceversa per an agreement they have. Don't worry. We'll help MBGA!

Blogger JACIII January 24, 2018 9:36 AM  

The self-appointed american intelligentsia took their best shot. Hang 'em. Hang 'em all.

Anonymous TheBoom January 24, 2018 9:42 AM  

This major scandal reminds me of the old question of whether a tree falling makes a sound if no one is there to hear it.There is no scandal if no one is prosecuted and no one of any stature will be prosecuted. There is no way Sessions has the balls to do this. The opposition media will be able to cover it up so there will only be people on the alt right angered by it.

Anonymous ZhukovG January 24, 2018 9:44 AM  

Cross the Rubicon!

Ad Victoriam, Ave Imperator Trump!

Blogger VD January 24, 2018 9:45 AM  

This major scandal reminds me of the old question of whether a tree falling makes a sound if no one is there to hear it.There is no scandal if no one is prosecuted and no one of any stature will be prosecuted. There is no way Sessions has the balls to do this. The opposition media will be able to cover it up so there will only be people on the alt right angered by it.

Whine harder, cucky. We don't do despair here. If you want to give up and sit in a corner crying, fine. Go do it somewhere else.

Blogger StrawMan January 24, 2018 9:49 AM  

This theory makes little sense. If there was a widespread attempt at the FBI to do all of this, then why did Comey publicly reopen the Clinton email investigation days before the election?

Blogger Silly but True January 24, 2018 9:51 AM  

@Strawman:
Purely as CYA for Comey: he very publically went on record noting to Congress everything was closed. And then (thanks to Wiener), it wasn't. It was purely political face-saving on his part.

Anonymous BBGKB January 24, 2018 9:52 AM  

An FBI informant has apparently informed Congress that a secret society at the FBI was holding secret meetings off-site after the election of Donald Trump

I just noticed on a 3 year old video a connection to Comet PING PONG
https://gab.ai/BGKB/posts/18563916 https://gab.ai/BGKB/posts/18504283

I wonder how the Clintons will squirm out of this one.

The FBI better avoid small planes.

Anonymous ZhukovG January 24, 2018 9:53 AM  

Unfamiliar names.
Speaking words to discourage.
Must be ignored.

Anonymous Just another commenter January 24, 2018 9:55 AM  

I wish all the guilty parties an ulcer-inducing wait, then a speedy trial and a speedier execution.... except for those who have earned a really slow one.

I wonder what would happen if there were so many (((convicts))) who had (((worked closely together))) that even the normies noticed?

Blogger Christopher B January 24, 2018 9:59 AM  

Agreed. The Feds had already allowed Huma, Mills, and everybody else in the Clinton crew to bleachbit their computers. That fact that Huma and Weiner shared access to his laptop came out of left field. I suspect Huma either forgot or didn't understand that emails she sent to their shared account would be cached in his machine.

Anonymous MaskettaMan January 24, 2018 10:00 AM  

People are rediscovering the concept of mutual spying on each others' citizens. This has been going on for decades with FVEY and ECHELON. The PATRIOT act wasn't even that big a deal, especially when you can have a Brit at NSA headquarters spy on US citizens and hand the collected information across the desk to an NSA worker.

Basically, the intelligence community spies when it wants, where it wants. Let's not get lost in the details about when, where, how, with who's rubber stamp they do it, etc. If there's an agency that's spying on US citizebs, it should be destroyed, and their communications with US intelligence severed. That's the only solution simple enough to work.

Anonymous Will January 24, 2018 10:05 AM  

After Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the Hillary / Comey fiasco I did not think the FBI's reputation could sink any lower. However all that is coming out now suggests a level of criminality which is unprecedented. Heads definitely need to roll over this.

Blogger LonestarWhacko January 24, 2018 10:07 AM  

Well, I expect to read about various and sundry "accidents and plane crashes". Think about it....loose lips and such. Figure Hillary to rat on anyone to skate on "orange". She's destined for a "slippery shower".

Anonymous MaskettaMan January 24, 2018 10:11 AM  

*If there's a US agency spying on US citizens, it should be destroyed, and US intelligence should sever communications with foreign agencies spying on US citizens.

Anonymous Cindy January 24, 2018 10:17 AM  

he comes across as a bumbling stumbling dotard"

Any time I'm tempted to doubt him, I recall the way he kept creepy Joe Biden's paws away from his granddaughter. There's video of that, if you want to look for it. He is quiet and calm, but he knows the score, who the bad guys are, and how to protect his charges. Compare that with other morons letting Biden yank their girls around and stick his nasty face in their necks because they're just that unable to resist the power of his office. That's normal cowardice you expect from swamp creatures. Sessions doesn't succumb to that. I trust him.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 24, 2018 10:25 AM  

widlast wrote:"What's the maximum capacity of Gitmo, again?"

Stack'em like cordwood and you could fit thousands.


Burn'em like cordwood and you could fit millions in the ashtrays alone.

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 10:26 AM  

@2

"Maybe Trump is doing well with Sessions."

If Sessions wasn't performing, Trump would have fired him months ago.

Blogger tuberman January 24, 2018 10:28 AM  

Interesting to keep attention on and wait to see what happens.

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 10:31 AM  

"[Sessions] was supposedly well respected, but any time I see him on the box he comes across as a bumbling stumbling dotard. I hope looks are deceiving in this instance."

Sessions is as smart as a tack.

The last time he was elected Senator for Alabama, he got something like 90% of the vote. That means a LOT of Dems (even blacks) crossed party lines to vote for him.

Hardcore Dems ***ABHOR*** him.

That's pretty much all you need to know.

Anonymous Icicle January 24, 2018 10:38 AM  

So if the upper ends of surveillance are doing this illegally, what are the lower ends of surveillance doing locally? That would explain those stories found online of gangstalking nicely.

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/gangstalking-paranoia-or-a-clue-about-whats-to-come/

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 10:41 AM  

@25

Sergeants-at-arms have no legal authority in a court. Their purpose is to suppress commotion, prevent violence, and to give unruly people a very, very impolite escort out of the court-room.
See also: Bailiff.

Prosecutor to the Supreme Court would be a more appropriate title.

Blogger bob kek mando January 24, 2018 10:47 AM  

10. Stg58/Animal Mother January 24, 2018 8:45 AM
There is nowhere on the planet the Clintons can hide.




now THAT'S a novel way to campaign for funding for a NASA Mars shot.


22. widlast January 24, 2018 9:12 AM
Stack'em like cordwood and you could fit thousands.



"millions". the Gitmo base is 45 sq miles, one sq mi is 3 million sq yards.

why no, i don't particularly care if they have room to exercise.

or sleep.

Blogger Silly but True January 24, 2018 10:48 AM  

Google "Louise Mensch Sergeant at Arms"

This is Aristotle kektoric not dialectic.

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 10:49 AM  

@30

"@28 I've read that NSA spies on Brits and viceversa per an agreement they have. Don't worry. We'll help MBGA!"


Yes, it's called the Five Eyes agreement ( US/UK/New Zealand/Australia/Canada) and the Nine Eyes Agreement (Five Eyes + Denmark, France, the Netherlands and Norway).

Blogger DonReynolds January 24, 2018 10:50 AM  

Where is the Secret Service?
Threats of violence against the President by FBI Agents, meeting in secret, as part of a secret society.
Do not arrest them!
They are an immediate threat to the Republic.
Shoot on sight.

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 10:52 AM  

@31

"The self-appointed american intelligentsia took their best shot. Hang 'em. Hang 'em all."

What kind of sorry agencies are these that they can't even pull of an assassination on their home turf?

That they are enemies of POTUS and the American people means that they are evil is reason enough to fire them. That they can't even pull off something like this indicates that not only are they evil, but incompetent.

Which doubles the reason for getting rid of all of them.

Blogger Jay Karknee January 24, 2018 10:53 AM  

If the FBI is going to be in the business of picking the Empire's leaders, they should at least change their name to the Praetorian guard.

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 10:54 AM  

@35

"This theory makes little sense. If there was a widespread attempt at the FBI to do all of this, then why did Comey publicly reopen the Clinton email investigation days before the election?"


Because he saw the real poll numbers, and realized that he had better execute "to the rear, march" if he wanted to still have a job at the end of Inauguration Day.

Blogger John Q Public January 24, 2018 10:57 AM  

I hate these fucking guys.

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2018 11:04 AM  

> I have to apologise to you USians that the British GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters, the Brit NSA) is probably at least knee deep in this stuff.

We understand that you have even less control over your government than we do ours.

> If there was a widespread attempt at the FBI to do all of this, then why did Comey publicly reopen the Clinton email investigation days before the election?

Rumors had it he did so to quell and open rebellion in the ranks.

Blogger DonReynolds January 24, 2018 11:11 AM  

Forget the punk terrorists, we have heavily armed and trained FBI Agents threatening violence against the President and meeting in secret to discuss their evil plans.
This constitutes a clear and present danger to the Republic every moment that they exist.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 24, 2018 11:12 AM  

Looked at a Trump tweet from a few hours ago, the loons are out in force trying to redirect it to the Kentucky school shooting (which I will bet a dollar was a person from a Democratic voting group).

My WAG this goes beyond the flunkies at the FBI but to the financeers who got pitched for a sure fire deal by the loons on how to defeat Trump.

Anonymous kfg January 24, 2018 11:14 AM  

"Hang 'em. Hang 'em all."

Although I have long been an advocate of lampposts, it is becoming apparent that hangin's too good fer 'em.

Where the hell is Kratman when you really need him?

Anonymous johnc January 24, 2018 11:16 AM  

The administration should use all of this evidence as a pretext to launch a major and very, very public Anti-Corruption Campaign that targets not only the alphabet soup agencies but also other areas of the federal government, including Congress and the judiciary. (Even China does this on a routine basis.)

It should be headed by someone in the WH (like a Chris Christie since he has experience in this area) and work in tandem with the DOJ. It should be public and transparent in as much as such investigations can be.

Drag this into the 2018 midterms, because this kind of anti-corruption action motivates our side to get out and vote.

Blogger Robert Coble January 24, 2018 11:19 AM  

"An FBI informant has apparently informed Congress . . ."

Wait, wait: FBI informants are people inside criminal enterprises who snitch to law enforcement about the crimes committed by that criminal enterprise - Oh, I see - NEVERMIND!

Blogger NO GOOGLES January 24, 2018 11:27 AM  

@35

There's actually a pretty consistent explanation for this. Comey knew there were at least 100+ FBI agents that knew about the Clinton server emails found on Weiner's computer. He had to get out in front of it before it leaked. After all, Comey told Congress UNDER OATH that he would update them if there was any further evidence or developments in the Clinton email case. If he remained silent then it would leak anyways - there are too many Trump supporters among the rank and file FBI to keep it quiet.

If you're Comey and you're faced with either getting out in front of something that will leak regardless, or letting it leak to discredit you AND possibly put you in dutch with Congress... which do you do? He took the best of bad options (I mean best from his perspective as a Clinton shill), reported it to Congress in a tight-lipped one page letter, refused to testify about it until after the election... then waited a week and said "nothing to see here".

Yes, that was bad for Clinton, but significantly LESS bad than it leaking organically and proving without a doubt that Comey was a Clinton shill and the entire investigation was a sham from the start. That would have been much worse for Clinton, and it would have been worse for Comey EVEN IF CLINTON WON she would still have a score to settle with him for not doing something to try and defuse the leak.

Comey didn't have a momentary bout of conscience - he took the best of what were all bad options.

Blogger NO GOOGLES January 24, 2018 11:29 AM  

You know, it's getting harder all the time to tell that it's NOT time to raise a black flag and start slitting throats, to quote from Mencken.

Blogger pyrrhus January 24, 2018 11:30 AM  

Eric Schmidt, Elon Musk, CIA all heavily involved with North Korea....What was that about "sanctions??? It looks like "Rocket Man" is only a front man for the Globalist skim game...

Blogger NO GOOGLES January 24, 2018 11:31 AM  

Sorry for the triple post, but I'm hearing that Nunes was assigned Secret Service protection.

MEMO WHEN?

Blogger pyrrhus January 24, 2018 11:33 AM  

WalMart shrimp reportedly processed with NK slave labor...I always thought it was disgusting anyway, but now I think some executives should be shot...

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2018 11:33 AM  

> Yes, that was bad for Clinton, but significantly LESS bad than it leaking organically and proving without a doubt that Comey was a Clinton shill and the entire investigation was a sham from the start.

The worst of it was it didn't have to be a sham. The FBI could have come back and recommended prosecution for mishandling classified information. Lynch would either have declined to prosecute or made sure Clinton got a slap on the wrist that would never have affected her campaign. There was no need to destroy the reputation of the FBI.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 24, 2018 11:35 AM  

James Dixon wrote:There was no need to destroy the reputation of the FBI.

And yet, the whole schtick with these morons is they have to destroy everything that came before them because reasons.

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2018 11:36 AM  

> WalMart shrimp reportedly processed with NK slave labor.

Walmart shrimp (except for the Wild Caught Gulf Shrimp brand) all come from China. Do you really want to risk it?

Blogger tuberman January 24, 2018 11:38 AM  

Akulkis wrote:"[Sessions] was supposedly well respected, but any time I see him on the box he comes across as a bumbling stumbling dotard. I hope looks are deceiving in this instance."

Sessions is as smart as a tack.

The last time he was elected Senator for Alabama, he got something like 90% of the vote. That means a LOT of Dems (even blacks) crossed party lines to vote for him.

Hardcore Dems ***ABHOR*** him.

That's pretty much all you need to know.


Except that Jeff can also be very, very stealthy, Teams need Role players.

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2018 11:38 AM  

Hmm, I have to take that back. Some of Walmart's shrimp apparently come from Vietnam. Having just missed drafting age for the Vietnam war, for me that's even worse.

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2018 11:48 AM  

Rest assured...they will.

Blogger SQT January 24, 2018 11:51 AM  

I have a friend whose sister works for the FBI and she has been telling me for years that they are a corrupt organization. Her sister worked on a high profile case in CA and they essentially let the person responsible for the crime get off so they could make a quicker, high profile, arrest and "solve" the crime. The father of the victim also pushed for closure over accuracy because there was money involved and he could get it quicker if the the case was closed.

Anonymous TS January 24, 2018 12:09 PM  

"Whine harder, cucky. We don't do despair here. If you want to give up and sit in a corner crying, fine. Go do it somewhere else."

Alt-Right = imaginal cells

lefTards = apoptosis cells

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 24, 2018 12:18 PM  

@62: johnc said, "The administration should use all of this evidence as a pretext to launch a major and very, very public Anti-Corruption Campaign . . . "

I'll sign that petition.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 24, 2018 12:19 PM  

Why not Haiti? I'm told they have a following there.

They wouldn't want to end up on the wrong end of the ladle for another round of Spirit Cooking.

Bill's already one foot in the grave with the Devil biting at his ass. I think that's his out. Hillary looks like the body is going to outlive the brain by quite a while though. Unless of course she has a tragic barbell accident while doing a bench press. But there are a whole host of people with plenty of healthy years in front of them who are probably pretty nervous.

The administration should use all of this evidence as a pretext to launch a major and very, very public Anti-Corruption Campaign that targets not only the alphabet soup agencies but also other areas of the federal government, including Congress and the judiciary. (Even China does this on a routine basis.)

Didn't Saudi Arabia just do something very similar?

Anonymous Tsalal January 24, 2018 12:34 PM  

Whatever is on that FISA Memo is incredibly damning for somebody. Alex Jones got it leaked to him and every computer he had got fried. Anybody who tried to download had their hard drives fried.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 24, 2018 12:35 PM  

What you've pointed out is, possibly, another example of convergence destroying an institution. These people were hired because of their politics and connections. Their actual function as law enforcement was bound to suffer.

Blogger RC January 24, 2018 12:37 PM  

Full lunar eclipse only hours after the SOTU address, a historical marker delineating the beginning of the end of the swamp.

Anonymous Starbuck January 24, 2018 12:38 PM  

I suspect they will use military tribunals to prosecute these people. One theory I have as to why they would do that is because if high ranking democrats were prosecuted, they wouldn't be able to have a fair trial(s). Too political. 1/3 would declare them innocent of everything and 2/3rds would declare them to hang. Guilty or not. Just my 2 cents.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 24, 2018 12:39 PM  

Wouldn't it be great if we adopted the PRC's policies regarding sentencing of corrupt officials and white collar criminals?
A lethal injection followed by organ harvesting in a mobile operating van.
That's always used as a symbol of Chinese brutality, but given what the U.S. is having to deal with with this bunch, it has. A new appeal.

Blogger RC January 24, 2018 12:45 PM  

@Tsalal It's just a pdf that has been extensively redacted and declassified by the DNI. It's interesting, detailing some of the continuous (but always unintentional) malfeasance of the federal criminals then providing authority to continue the data collection. Some of the redacted material may name names. We'll know soon enough, but it's dated April of last year. The "Upstream Collection" of data under "Section 702" on a FISA court opinion provides proof that what we already knew was happening was actually happening in regards to mass data collection of all and sundry.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 24, 2018 12:53 PM  

Two points I haven't heard made...

First, the FBI has been bent for a long, long time. Back in the late '50s and early '60s, it was well known that J. Edgar Hoover was kept in office by a large blackmail file on members of Congress. Toss in Ruby Ridge, Waco, the attempt to frame Richard Jewell, the FBI files going to the White House during the Clinton regime...it all adds up to a culture of duplicity and disloyalty. When the rot runs this deep, there is no "reform". You burn it to the ground and bulldoze it to bedrock. It might be possible to salvage the working-level personnel for other organizations, but they need to be reassigned as individuals, not groups.

The second relates to the crimes. My reading is that the relevant law is 18 USC Section 2384. Seditious Conspiracy. "If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

Anonymous johnc January 24, 2018 12:57 PM  

When you read a CNN article like this with an IQ above 120, it's clear to see what's going on behind the scenes.

The whole thing was a setup from the get-go, involving Sally Yates, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, etc. Rosenstein is clearly in on all of this, as apparently he was intentionally pushed into his position as Deputy AG. (Recall that some said that Trump needs to be very careful who he lets into his administration. "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" is a cliche, not a valid strategy.) The only ones doing 4D chess here are those in the Swamp.

Mueller will come out with some nebulous BS about Trump "obstructing" justice. It will all be BS and innuendo but when you have smoke for so long, people are likely to believe there's a fire.

Now the Democrats have given up on the option of winning elections based on policy, so this is going to be their campaign issue this year. Mueller will throw out enough dirt that Democrats will say, "Vote for us in November and we'll impeach Trump! We have a chance to undo the 2016 election! We can get back at Trump for stealing the presidency from Clinton!" They need to motivate their base for a high turnout and that could be the issue to do it. (Voters won't come out if Democrats merely campaign on DACA and CHIP.) OTOH, this threat could motivate Trump's base to come out and vote in large numbers also.

Either way, this Mueller crapshow is a self-inflicted wound that never should have happened.

Anonymous John January 24, 2018 1:09 PM  

> Notice that the headline is that "evidence suggests" rather than a reliance upon rumors, whispers, reports, or insiders. Which means that unlike the special investigator's search for collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, there is almost certainly a substantive there there.

So your justification for believing this is that the headline says evidence suggests? Am I missing something, some subtext, because Vox is too smart to make such a stupid statement?

Blogger Shimshon January 24, 2018 1:10 PM  

@85 johnc, reading that CNN piece was like plugging into the Matrix. Is it even in the same reality I occupy?

Anonymous SigOther January 24, 2018 1:11 PM  

I would be SHOCKED if, say, Comey was found dead by his own hand with a suicide note explaining how he did it all and the Clintons had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with anything in any way. Maybe he'll stab himself to death in the chest 4-5 times...

Anonymous SigOther January 24, 2018 1:13 PM  

His name was Seth Rich.

Anonymous SigOther January 24, 2018 1:19 PM  

Forget Gitmo. Bring out the woodchippers.

Blogger Cassandros the Elder January 24, 2018 1:29 PM  

I, for one, am looking for a few Kent Brockmans to say they welcome their new Republican overlords.

Anonymous SigOther January 24, 2018 1:32 PM  

Does the HRC email scandal remind anyone else of he AmerAsia scandal?

Blogger Odin Indaway January 24, 2018 1:41 PM  

Maybe it's time for a little Martial Law. A quick sweep of Justice and FBI snake pits. All expenses paid trip to a secure location for a Military Tribunal. Justice to be dispensed within 15 minutes, with possible pardons issued to those who fully confess and provide all information and links to the treasonous members of the government.

Anonymous TheTruthIsNeverAcceptable January 24, 2018 1:49 PM  

BBGKB wrote:An FBI informant has apparently informed Congress that a secret society at the FBI was holding secret meetings off-site after the election of Donald Trump

I just noticed on a 3 year old video a connection to Comet PING PONG

https://gab.ai/BGKB/posts/18563916 https://gab.ai/BGKB/posts/18504283

I wonder how the Clintons will squirm out of this one.

The FBI better avoid small planes.


Or large ones. Just ask Ron Brown. Oh, you can't!

Blogger Jon Mollison January 24, 2018 1:53 PM  

This story has everything. I am really looking forward to ten years from now when alt-Hollywood turns this story into a blockbuster film.

Anonymous GregMan January 24, 2018 2:02 PM  

"Wouldn't it be great if we adopted the PRC's policies regarding sentencing of corrupt officials and white collar criminals?
A lethal injection followed by organ harvesting in a mobile operating van."

Why bother with the injection? Just strap 'em down and start cutting. Anesthesia is for people you like.

Blogger Desdichado January 24, 2018 2:22 PM  

John wrote:So your justification for believing this is that the headline says evidence suggests? Am I missing something, some subtext, because Vox is too smart to make such a stupid statement?
Hello, fellow conservativish people!

Blogger tublecane January 24, 2018 2:23 PM  

"This time, the appropriate tagline is 'too big to believe.'"

That would be a good fescription of how the Big Lie is supposed to work. Except in this case I don't think it's a lie. And to people like me, who have payed attention to how Deep Staters and the Permanent Government in general behave, it's really not very hard to believe.

Blogger tublecane January 24, 2018 2:33 PM  

"So much for the FBI's once-pristine reputation"

When did they have that? When Cointelpro broke? When J. Edgar Hoover was a symbol of the power of the Permanent Government? When we found out they let Robert Hanssen spy for the Russkies for 22 years? Attempted cover-up of Teapot Dome?

Also, Waco. Need I say anything more than Waco?

Blogger tublecane January 24, 2018 2:36 PM  

@7-I see a lot of momentum going the other way. They're talking about the looming "showdowns" between Trump and Mueller in their little interview as if Trump has been maneuvered into a box and is one move away from being carried off to prison.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 24, 2018 2:43 PM  

Napoleon 12pdr wrote:It might be possible to salvage the working-level personnel for other organizations, but they need to be reassigned as individuals, not groups.

When you mix sewage and drinking water, the result is not drinking water. Reassigning feebs into less corrupt agencies, even singly, would only spread the corruption.

Blogger tublecane January 24, 2018 2:52 PM  

@64-Comey could've perjured himself like Clapper, but I think he may be a coward in addition to being a weasel.

Maybe the reports we were receiving in the Dark Corners of the Internet about a revolt brewing in the FBI around the time Wiener went down were accurate, and Comey diffused the situation. Maybe he really was covering his butt considering Trump's chances in July were not his chances shortly before the election.

How do you figure the psychology of a man like Comey? Apparent Company Man, thought by some to be man of integrity, somehow is thrust or thrusts himself into the presidential election twice? The first time probably because of his reputation for probity and of course the fact that he is (was?) a Republican. The second,God knows why.

Then the whole fake Secret Diary thing, which would be funny if it weren't sad.

Anonymous Andrew E. January 24, 2018 3:04 PM  

New Q drop from 10 mins ago:

Q !UW.yye1fxo 01/24/18 (Wed) 14:54:08 No.58

TODAY, former President Barack HUSSEIN Obama formally retained counsel (9/WW).

GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

Q

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2018 3:13 PM  

> When did they have that?

I'd say roughly around the time of "The Untouchables". That did a lot for their reputation.

Blogger EIA January 24, 2018 4:45 PM  

Yes, but Elliot Ness wasn't FBI, he was a Treasury agent:
https://infogalactic.com/info/The_Untouchables_(film)
https://infogalactic.com/info/Bureau_of_Prohibition
but yes, the FBI benefited from it.

Blogger tublecane January 24, 2018 5:12 PM  

There was a show called the F.B.I. in the 60s, of course. I think someone mentioned Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. recently, maybe in this thread.

Anonymous Tsalal January 24, 2018 5:52 PM  

@RC

That's the old document. Alex Jones got the fresh, un-redacted memo and tried to put it up. This link is a major black-piller, but read it, absorb it and move on. Scroll down for the news on Alex Jones.

http://82.221.129.208/.zj3.html

Blogger Meng Greenleaf January 24, 2018 6:28 PM  

Is the FBI a Law *enforcement* agency? I didnt think they could enforce the law. Their role is purely to investigate. Is that correct?

Blogger steve brown January 24, 2018 6:31 PM  

Trump to reveal FISA memo at SOTU! Drain the swamp! What a great country! MAGA

Blogger Silly but True January 24, 2018 6:31 PM  

https://www.fbi.gov/about
"...and law enforcement responsibilities..."

Blogger Meng Greenleaf January 24, 2018 6:34 PM  

It's raining red 😁

Blogger RC January 24, 2018 6:48 PM  

@Tsalal. Thanks for the link. Jones may have had the unredacted version of the memo but that's not what he put up on the doc cam during his show.

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 7:09 PM  

@68

"WalMart shrimp reportedly processed with NK slave labor...I always thought it was disgusting anyway, but now I think some executives should be shot..."

ALL WalMarty executives should be shot, along with the entire board of directors, and all Walton family members who are shareholders.

Why?

You know all of these towns across the country, where the local factory(ies) of household goods, which have been shut down, and all of the machinery shipped to China?

DO you know WHY those factories were shut down and shipped to China?

Walmart.

When I was working at KMart headquarters, some management types from WalMart had been lured into KMart, and they reported that Walmart had ordered ALL of their manufactured goods supplies to move ALL of their manufacturing to China, or WalMart would cut-off all all business with those who refused to comply.

The Walton Family and the Walmart board of directors are nothing but a cabal of traitors.

Every
Single
One

Sam ("We only sell products made in America") Walton must be spinning in his grave.

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 7:16 PM  

"Hmm, I have to take that back. Some of Walmart's shrimp apparently come from Vietnam. Having just missed drafting age for the Vietnam war, for me that's even worse."

It isn't.

Strange as it may seem, the Vietnamese Americans. They GLADLY give battlefield tours to American vets and their families.
Vietnam has even invited the U.S. Navy to make Port of Call visits at all major Vietnamese naval bases.

Why?

They hate the Chinese every bit as much as during the 1000 years of Chinese occupation (which is when the vast majority of that infamous tunnel network was built). The Chinese insist that the entirety of the South China Sea is nothing but a Chinese Lake, and that every square inch of it is theirs, and theirs alone, no international waters, and no 12-mile territorial waters for ANY country with shores on the South China Sea. Since Vietnam's ENTIRE coastline is on the South China Sea, they are, understandably, incenced.

The Chinese even insist that they own the China sea all the way up to the high-tide line on the beaches of the Philippines.

China needs to be put back into its box.

Blogger Akulkis January 24, 2018 7:24 PM  

" It might be possible to salvage the working-level personnel for other organizations, but they need to be reassigned as individuals, not groups."

It would be best for the citizenry if the punishment to government (at all levels) is that anyone who has worked in the FBI is prohibited from government employment ever again, in any capacity, for the rest of their lives. Lest they spread out like more viruses, and infect more organizations.

Sadly, any such law would be overruled on challenge, as being a Bill of Attainder.

Anonymous Tsalal January 24, 2018 7:56 PM  

@RC

Yeah, he had no choice. Every copy was most likely wiped before they could even hit "print" or try downloading on a USB.

I suspect this was a beta test by the White hats to see how good the black hats are.

Anonymous Avalanche January 24, 2018 9:49 PM  

@20 "What's the maximum capacity of Gitmo, again?"

Get the Navy's Seabees in -- we can expand -- and the damned inmates can hot-rack like the submariners do!!

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 25, 2018 12:08 AM  

Akulkis wrote:t would be best for the citizenry if the punishment to government (at all levels) is that anyone who has worked in the FBI is prohibited from government employment ever again, in any capacity, for the rest of their lives. Lest they spread out like more viruses, and infect more organizations.

Sadly, any such law would be overruled on challenge, as being a Bill of Attainder.


What constitution? We don't have no steenkin' constitution!

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2018 6:13 AM  

> Sadly, any such law would be overruled on challenge, as being a Bill of Attainder.

A law barring them, yes. But given a choice between being shot for treason or "voluntarily" giving up your right to work for the federal government, I think most would make the proper decision.

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