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Friday, January 12, 2018

Promises, promises

Ted Kennedy illustrates why third-generation immigrants should not ever be permitted to govern or even vote in his deceitful argument for the 1965 immigration act.
First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…

Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset… Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia…

In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think… The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.
They have to go back. They ALL have to go back. It is no longer up for debate. The post-1965 mass immigration policy was entirely based on lies and misrepresentations, and 50 years on it is clear that global migration has destroyed America, the largest invasion in human history has severely weakened the United States, and if a significant portion of the post-1965 immigrants and their descendants are not repatriated in the next decade, they will cause the complete collapse of the Union, violent ethnic conflict, and a civil war of unprecedented magnitude. At this point, the Yugoslav option may be the best possible outcome; the Czechoslovak option appears to be already beyond reach.

Listen to the warning of an American Indian. The dirt is not magic and it will not remain yours once you permit foreigners to settle on it. And rest assured that your descendants, if you have any that survive, will curse your incredible stupidity and short-sightedness, which is of epic historical magnitude.

Caelum non animum mutant qui trans mare currunt.

So, go ahead and signal your virtue. Go ahead and cluck about how gloriously cucky and Churchian you are. Go ahead and dream of that glorious multicultural future before you. Just don't expect us to lift a finger, shed a tear, or open the gates when those on whose behalf you are preening and posturing decide to take what you have away from you.

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89 Comments:

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 12, 2018 11:06 AM  

But, but...muh Emma Lazarus!

Anonymous TechieDude January 12, 2018 11:08 AM  

That's right.

It's all fun and games until you become the dhimmi, helping your wife shop for bhurkas. Dhimmitude would be a blessing, compared to being engulfed by today's third world barbarians.

Anonymous TechieDude January 12, 2018 11:11 AM  

Best quote I've heard- "Buy guns and ammo while you still can"

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 12, 2018 11:20 AM  

That virtue signaling now has a social cost however small is promising though.

Hell even Kuntsler on his blog excoriates his fellow lefties for virtue signaling. Pretty soon even the cucks like Dreher will realize their little scams are up.

Anonymous Axe Head January 12, 2018 11:28 AM  

we're gonna have to kill half the whites here, as well.

Anonymous trev006 January 12, 2018 11:32 AM  

I am mildly curious... at what point do you think it was too late for the natives to expel the immigrants? The British and the French were in conflict to settle the upper half of the New World for some time, over beaver hats at one point, and that's ignoring the Spanish contribution to colonizing the continent. Tribes would have a great deal to gain from trade with them, such as utility tools and weapons, and were too divided to practically attack the invaders. Agreeing that the Natives burned previous colonies to the ground, do you still think it was a practical long-term solution? Everything has consequences, down the line.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 12, 2018 11:54 AM  

@5 Axe Head

No. Communist countries showed that the actual True Believers is very small, but those that'll work to survive is high. You need to kill your actual traitors, drive out those with multiple allegiances and secure your key strategic areas.


@6 trev006

Given the rough historic numbers needed, you'd be surprised how few men under arms it would take to expel the invaders. There's a reason the British Empire was so massive, yet came from this fairly tiny island.

As to the Native Americans, they were up against Ideological & Economic forces that they likely could have never resisted. They could have held out longer, but the colonies would have just been further North and would have taken another 100 years to spread. Some ideas are just that potent and the Natives didn't have the power to defend against those that were going to operate differently.

Everyone will start thinking really differently when we can openly discuss conquering territory in North America by force, which is actually what Vox is trying to avoid. Peaceful population transfer is far preferable to what *will* happen otherwise. Considering the Left's open statements of Genocide, they've normalized ethnic extermination, which is going to be a level of brutal we haven't seen in a while in the West.

Blogger Gordon Scott January 12, 2018 11:59 AM  

I don't think the natives in the Americas had any chance to hold off the invaders. With a few exceptions, they were agrarian groups who lived off lands too large to be defended by their populations--considering the technological differences. There was no opposition in the invading groups. The Comanche, in Texas, were vicious enough to discourage some, but Texas was just too big. The pressure was never at any one point; it was always at multiple points.

Blogger pyrrhus January 12, 2018 11:59 AM  

Top priority will be getting rid of the traitors...But Americans are so poorly educated, or just plain miseducated, that they have no idea about how group conflict really works. Historically, ethnic cleansing in the areas controlled by an ethnic group is totally the norm, and it happens all the time in the 3d world...And as former Yugoslavia demonstrates, there is no living with moslems, except as persecuted dhimmi...

Blogger Al January 12, 2018 12:01 PM  

Also see videos on Youtube of the excellent David Yeagley, great-great-grandson of Comanche leader Bad Eagle. And see his essays on Vdare and at the badeagle site.

Blogger Gordon Scott January 12, 2018 12:02 PM  

By opposition in the invading groups, I mean there was no political opposition to the invasions.

Blogger pyrrhus January 12, 2018 12:03 PM  

@8 The natives in North America beat off the vikings and wiped out the Roanoke colony.They could easily have wiped out the Pilgrims in the first two years... If Powhatan hadn't betrayed the Indians by giving the tobacco farmers the secret to curing tobacco, they would have gone back to England.
Traitors did them in...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 12, 2018 12:04 PM  

I guess that by tonight the thought leaders of the left turn "Shitholegate" anti-white. Damn I certainly hope so.

Blogger Al January 12, 2018 12:05 PM  

The suicidal xenophilia driving white ethnomasochists is our greatest enemy. The supreme fantasy of white ethnomasochists consists of being eternally and publicly gang-raped by Paco, Jamal, and Abdul as the ultimate form of virtue-signaling. Unless and until this ethnomasochism is eradicated, we don't stand a chance.

Anonymous johnc January 12, 2018 12:06 PM  

Immigration is an easy slam-dunk winning issue with the populace. Trump should be pushing the pedal to the metal on this one and demanding the Democrats compromise in other areas of policy.

Anonymous pseudotsuga January 12, 2018 12:08 PM  

trev006 wrote:I am mildly curious... at what point do you think it was too late for the natives to expel the immigrants?
I am not VD, of course, but if I may, let me add my bit of wampum to the trade goods.
I think that it was too late as far back as the mid 1600s for the natives to repel/expel immigrants (or settlers, or invaders, or whatever we want to call the groups).
The Europeans had a base of power (manpower and resources) that the natives couldn't affect. At that time, the European Americans and the Native Americans were essentially equal on military terms and food growing terms, except that the Europeans could replace their losses.
It's similar to how any of the Axis powers, through nearly all of WWII, couldn't effectively reach across the ocean to curtail the USA from producing war materials and soldiers. They could stop one wave on their own shores, with losses on both sides, but then another wave would come, and the Axis could not easily replace the material and manpower losses.
Another thing working against the natives was the tribal culture. It was difficult for them to unite in groups strong enough to turn back the tide.
Then there's technology -- once the Industrial Revolution started in the 1700s, the native cultures could not overcome the advantages that gave to the Europeans. Stone age hunter-gatherer or small-scale agricultural cultures (or even Iron age cultures) could not compete, materially or economically.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 12, 2018 12:09 PM  

@8 Gordon Scott

There likely were a few Native tribes that could have defended the situation, but two things happened. 1) Massive droughts in the 1400s drove them away from the Midwest & the good growing regions and 2) inadvertent Biological Warfare crushed any of the larger cities.

The invasion might have been won simply by the first fur traders that showed up.

Blogger Al January 12, 2018 12:11 PM  

Strategic deportations, as has been argued at Vdare, will be key to driving out the invaders. Consistently driving out scum like Jorge Ramos, for example, will cause many others of his tribe to flee as well. This is what happened in the glorious Operation Wetback of 1954. Ten times as many fled in fear as were actually deported.

Anonymous ZhukovG January 12, 2018 12:16 PM  

We may have already voted in the last presidential election of the current American Union. Though the chance of this is admittedly small for this cycle, it will become increasingly likely in future cycles.

Before the actual break up of the American Union, we should expect a number of years of the Union being held together mostly by force. Eventually, increasing unrest and internecine violence will break the will of even the military to try keep the Union together.

The national diversity of the military will result in an epidemic of desertions. Military members will very early depart to join their brothers on the barricades, taking their equipment with them.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 12, 2018 12:17 PM  

I would not be surprised to find that Trump's plan is precisely for some high-profile deportations. Once the first loads of DACAs are shipped back, I suspect the momentum will build.

Especially now that Trump has got the idea that perhaps these people are not that good for our country out onto the table.

Anonymous Looking for Clarity January 12, 2018 12:17 PM  

Expelling all of the post 1965 immigrants would still leave the US as an impossibly multi-ethnic non-nation empire.

Even an all white, but still multi-ethnic, America isn't any less 'magic dirt' based thinking. Basically, if you can't trace your ancestry back to English America 1776, preferably on both sides, then 'you have to go back'.

Regardless, it's possible that America was always doomed to fail. God set the boundaries of the nations, and the European Age of Exploration sought to destroy those boundaries.

Europeans were never meant to settle North America, any more than they were meant to settle Asia, Africa or Antarctica.

People often say that allowing races to co-habitate, especially in European countries, is evil because it violates the curse of Babel, but the co-habitation isn't breaking the curse, it is simply a consequence of that earlier, and much more egregious, violation.

There would be no 'global community' without the European empire building and settlement programs.


Anonymous DissidentRight January 12, 2018 12:18 PM  

Aliens should never be able to participate in government, ever, no matter how many generations.

Only when they biologically assimilate will their children cease to be aliens.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 12, 2018 12:23 PM  

Amen. Excellent analysis and rhetoric as always. You are absolutely right. The Czech solution probably has been off the table for two decades now. For that matter, even a bloody but relatively clean partition along the lines of India and Pakistan is out of reach. America would be lucky to find a Franjo Tuđman at this point, and we already have entered the first stages of war.

Blogger Al January 12, 2018 12:28 PM  

@21

You ignore the supernatural vocation of Europeans. The extra-extra-extra-extraordinary achievements of Europeans--for example, their production of a Mozart--is due to their infusion with Logos and consequent mission to spread the gospel of Christ throughout the world. When the Jews rejected and murdered the Incarnate Logos, the Christ, their divine mission passed on to the Europeans. Europeans are indeed to be supreme, but only when rooted in the ground of their being.

Having rejected Christ and thus Logos, Europeans have descended into the madness, the full-blown diabolical disorientation, of suicidal xenophilia and associated ethnomasochism.

Blogger VD January 12, 2018 12:34 PM  

Even an all white, but still multi-ethnic, America isn't any less 'magic dirt' based thinking. Basically, if you can't trace your ancestry back to English America 1776, preferably on both sides, then 'you have to go back'.

Did no one ever explain to you that you can't apply reductio ad absurdum to a practical discussion? That's just pure silliness.

Blogger The Anti-Gnostic January 12, 2018 12:38 PM  

The national diversity of the military will result in an epidemic of desertions. Military members will very early depart to join their brothers on the barricades, taking their equipment with them.

I think the rule of thumb is one week, then the soldiers and cops leave to go protect their families. There's probably another length of time while the police/military/militias sort out who's going to be the new State. This would make a great monograph.

Syria is an interesting case study. I was sure it was done as an integral State a couple of years ago but Syria and the Bashar government look like they'll be around for a while.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 12, 2018 12:39 PM  

@19:

Before the actual break up of the American Union, we should expect a number of years of the Union being held together mostly by force.

It's happening now. The out-of-control DOJ/FBI gives it the patina of law and avoids the military option for now. Brilliant comment otherwise.

Anonymous DissidentRight January 12, 2018 12:40 PM  

When the Jews rejected and murdered the Incarnate Logos, the Christ, their divine mission passed on to the Europeans.

Jesus literally does not care about your race: "Make disciples of all nations." 100% of the apostles were Jewish. At the beginning, almost all Christians were Jews. The fact that Jews, whites have largely abandoned Christ is not significant of anything. Most people, regardless of their race, reject the Gospel.

Anonymous HoosierHillbilly January 12, 2018 12:43 PM  

@21 "God set the boundaries of the nations, and the European Age of Exploration sought to destroy those boundaries."

This...this makes no sense. At all. It is a bold stroke to take the Jews getting Canaan and extrapolating that to all peoples over time and space.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass January 12, 2018 12:44 PM  

If only Hart, Cellar, and Kennedy were not still alive today but had to live in some ghetto of LA or NYC to see what they had wrought.

Al wrote:Also see videos on Youtube of the excellent David Yeagley, great-great-grandson of Comanche leader Bad Eagle. And see his essays on Vdare and at the badeagle site.

@10 A great patriot! May he RIP!

Al wrote:Strategic deportations, as has been argued at Vdare, will be key to driving out the invaders. Consistently driving out scum like Jorge Ramos, for example, will cause many others of his tribe to flee as well. This is what happened in the glorious Operation Wetback of 1954. Ten times as many fled in fear as were actually deported.

@18 200k deported and 800k fled on their own accord. Federale had an idea on weaponizing the census a few days ago.

ZhukovG wrote:We may have already voted in the last presidential election of the current American Union. Though the chance of this is admittedly small for this cycle, it will become increasingly likely in future cycles.

Before the actual break up of the American Union, we should expect a number of years of the Union being held together mostly by force. Eventually, increasing unrest and internecine violence will break the will of even the military to try keep the Union together.

The national diversity of the military will result in an epidemic of desertions. Military members will very early depart to join their brothers on the barricades, taking their equipment with them.


@19 If it's going to happen, may it happen soon. I want to be capable when this thing still kicks off. I'm 31 now.

Looking for Clarity wrote:Expelling all of the post 1965 immigrants would still leave the US as an impossibly multi-ethnic non-nation empire.

Even an all white, but still multi-ethnic, America isn't any less 'magic dirt' based thinking. Basically, if you can't trace your ancestry back to English America 1776, preferably on both sides, then 'you have to go back'.

Regardless, it's possible that America was always doomed to fail. God set the boundaries of the nations, and the European Age of Exploration sought to destroy those boundaries.

Europeans were never meant to settle North America, any more than they were meant to settle Asia, Africa or Antarctica.

People often say that allowing races to co-habitate, especially in European countries, is evil because it violates the curse of Babel, but the co-habitation isn't breaking the curse, it is simply a consequence of that earlier, and much more egregious, violation.

There would be no 'global community' without the European empire building and settlement programs.



@21 I'd gladly repatriate to Switzerland then, as my family having been her in part since 1807 can't trace itself back to the English in 1776. I'd have to take my black Irish gf with me too. Heh Then again she might be able to stay, considering how long her family has been in Appalachia.

Anonymous Anonymous January 12, 2018 12:45 PM  

100% of the apostles were Jewish.

Luke was an ethnic Greek.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass January 12, 2018 12:46 PM  

That should read not only still alive

Anonymous Outraged in Utah January 12, 2018 12:48 PM  

Drumph’s comments were unpresidential, undignified, unchristian and ungentlemanlike. All conservatives need to reject. Impeachment now!

Anonymous HoosierHillbilly January 12, 2018 12:50 PM  

@31 and also...not an Apostle

Anonymous Sorcerygod January 12, 2018 12:52 PM  

The rush of immigrants, which can be pictured as an airport terminal with 1000 planes circling and landing per hour, disgorging all manner of riff-raff, has never been so bad as it is today. The numbers are simply disastrous. And they are all non-white. You might find a speck of Ireland or a dash of Germany here or there, but in the main they are shut off — in the U.S., in Australia, in Canada, in New Zealand, in all the formerly white-majority countries which are rapidly degrading into a garbage heap of miserable miscellany of morbidity.

In all four countries, the tilting started in the 1960s. That was the decade of final demise. It did not take farsighted legislators to see what would happen. But what was so special about the 1960s? What was the one factor that enabled the cesspool to lap at our door, then enter the apartment, the same way my apartment in the lower city once regurgitated foul water ceaselessly from the kitchen tap to raise the lowers across the floor?

The answer can be found in two letter: T. V. Television. Television waved its horrid wand by doing what no other sociocultural force can do: normalizing ideas that work against a nation and for the liberal cosmopolitan rootless ideology.

The liberals have always been deeply seated in television, since the days of Fred Coe in New York City in 1948. They sensed instinctively that here was a medium that offered mind-bending properties. But it is at the nexus of television and lawmaking that the greatest putridity occurred.

Lawmakers on the right side of the spectrum were paralyzed, convinced that [. . .]

[continues:]

jump to Television Ushered In The Shitskins

BACKUP:
https://starofmagic.wordpress.com/2018/01/12/unlucky-horseshoe/

Blogger Ingot9455 January 12, 2018 12:55 PM  

@8 Look up King Phillip's War (1675-1678), which is when the Native Americans finally had enough and actually tried to make a concerted effort to unseat the Pilgrims and drive them out. The Pilgrims were too strong by that time and pretty much said, "If there's going to be anyone getting genocided on this continent, it's going to be you."
(The Native American's failure to keep the tribes united was another big problem - the more they fell apart, the stronger the united Pilgrims became by comparison.)

Blogger Anno Ruse January 12, 2018 12:58 PM  

"God set the boundaries of the nations"

When did He set them? If I show up to Heaven with the wrong edition of Rand McNally, do I still get in?

The time to worry about which whites are the right kind of whites was a couple centuries ago. Future Americans are going to be descended from German-Irish mongrels, plus the millions of other non-English whites we've let in. It's more productive to think of what that society will look like than to pine away for the days when the only boots to touch America's shores were those of an Englishman.

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni January 12, 2018 1:04 PM  

I have heard that Argentina sent out armies to eradicate their Indians in the early part of the 1800s, just after they gained their independence from Spain. Infogalactic doesn't give any more information.

Unfortunately, huge waves of later immigration changed the Hispanic nature of the population and led to the present mixture. So nations that indiscriminately admit mixed immigrants cannot avoid the conflict that "diversity" brings, even if they act decisively to establish a clean slate at the beginning.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 12, 2018 1:10 PM  

For the North American Indians, the critical moment wasn't on this side of the Atlantic, but the events in England. The religious persecutions, followed by the English Civil War and Restoration, created a massive flow of refugees. Who decided to try their luck in the New World. The Spanish had come as conquerors. The French as traders. The Wave 1 immigrants to what would become the United States came specifically as settlers.

The native tribes, weakened by diseases and divided politically, had a chance to at least hold the line and contain the settlements...but after the French & Indian War, it was over.

Blogger Lazarus January 12, 2018 1:14 PM  

@33

Utah is a shithole, Mormons are Satanists, and your'e an idiot.

Blogger Almodavar January 12, 2018 1:22 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc-v8CFJzu4

Blogger VD January 12, 2018 1:30 PM  

Congratulations, poop-touchers. All your comments have been spammed. Don't whine when your future comments get picked up by the spam filters.

This isn't that fucking hard.

Blogger BlowMe January 12, 2018 1:32 PM  

That Ted Kennedy quote sounds oddly familiar.

Almost like I heard it yesterday, and the day before that...and the day before that and...

Same shit, different day.

As usual.

Anonymous Elder Son January 12, 2018 1:35 PM  

...than to pine away for the days when the only boots to touch America's shores were those of an Englishman.

Of course, that is not true, and is retarded. The original settlers of America, were not just "those of an Englishman". The whole, "I am of original, and only Englishman settler stock", is just garbage. The fact is, most people have not done their ancestry, nor their DNA, and have no clue from which they came, except by hearsay... and, "I wanna be cool and proclaim I am of the original, and nothing but, Englishman stock."

Blogger Al January 12, 2018 1:40 PM  

In response to my post @24, DissidentRight @28 said:

"Jesus literally does not care about your race...."

See Ch. 10, "The Myth of Equality," in Fr. Wathen's book entitled Who Shall Ascend?

Also see:

"Any inequality today is a horror. For the Catholic Church [the actual Catholic Church, not the post Second Vatican Council abomination represented by the perfidious likes of Pope Francis], it's not at all a horror. God has designed everything unequal, practically everything: the flowers, the animals, the plants, the mountains, the nations, the peoples, the races, the sexes, the individuals, everything in God's creation is unequal. What God plans is a great variety, and an order in the variety, with some things higher and some things lower. And St. Paul says in the Epistle to the Romans, 'Don't start questioning God on why he put this lower and put that higher.' It's like a building, that stone is lower than that stone and that stone is higher.... Compare blacks with whites, broadly speaking, blacks will be superior in some things and whites will be superior in others. But generally speaking, the blacks are lower down on the wall and the whites are meant to be higher up on the wall. That's just the way it is. That's the reality. When the whites stopped doing what they should be doing, which is leading the blacks, then...."

-Bishop Richard Williamson (2008 lecture on The Sillon, No. 3 in the Stockholm Conferences 2008 audio series at the St. Marcel Initiative website)

Also on the same St. Marcel Initiative site in the Eleison Comments section, see the letter entltled "Thoughts" of November 2005, which includes this:

"For if the Europeans had kept the Faith of St. Paul, they would never have let themselves be deceived by the liberals' false equality and charity, which are no more than a parody of Christian equality and charity. St. Paul says, 'For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ, have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus' (Gal. III, 27,28). Similarly, 'putting on the new man, him who is renewed unto knowledge, according to the image of Him who created him. Where there is neither Gentile nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian nor Scythian, bond nor free. But Christ is all, and in all' (Col. III, 10,11).

"Notice how in each of these quotations, St. Paul frames the equality of different human races, classes and sexes within Christ. In other words the equality is before God, and will only be fulfilled in Heaven. St Paul would never have dreamt of denying or wiping out the inequality of human differences before men. As to the inequality in this life between Jew and Greek, see Romans and Galatians; between bond and free, see Philemon; between man and woman, see Ephesians and Colossians. The will of God for men on earth is that Catholic save Jew, that the man free look after the bondsman and that the man be head of the woman. So when the white men give up on saving Jews, looking after other races and leading their womenfolk, it is altogether normal for them to be punished respectively by the domination of Jewish finance, by the refusal to follow of the non-white races and by rampant feminism...."





Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 12, 2018 1:42 PM  

Americans are White. Not all Whites are American.

I think it will be enough to make a society in which non-Americans are profoundly uncomfortable. They can then either assimilate, if that's possible for them, or leave/get shot if assimilation is not possible.

Blogger James January 12, 2018 1:49 PM  

DissidentRight wrote:

100% of the apostles were Jewish. At the beginning, almost all Christians were Jews.


Gee, and here I thought most of the "apostles" were Galilean. Like the Messiah. You need to research the issue. The term "jew" did not exist in the 1st century AD. And present day "jews" are the direct link to the Pharisees. Not only are they not Judeans, they are mostly not Semitic either.

Anonymous Iacobus January 12, 2018 1:49 PM  

Outraged in Utah wrote:Drumph’s comments were unpresidential, undignified, unchristian and ungentlemanlike. All conservatives need to reject. Impeachment now!

Mitt Romney, is that you? Aww, no need to clutch your pearls, little girl. I'm sure all of us care.

/pats head

lol

Blogger Al January 12, 2018 1:52 PM  

@38 Dissident Right:

You also desperately need to read the epic book entitled The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, by E. Michael Jones. Being fully red-pilled on the Jews requires this reading.

Also see on Youtube:

A Goy Guide to World History

Blogger Matamoros January 12, 2018 1:53 PM  

Truth hurts. Communist sympathy by age / race – Millenials and non-white are the most communist.

http://romaninukraine.com/truth-hurts-communist-sympathy-by-age-race-millenials-and-non-white-are-the-most-communist/

Anonymous Crusader January 12, 2018 1:54 PM  

I ask all true followers of Christ to read below and question your loyalty to such a person:

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican newspaper on Friday branded U.S. President Donald Trump’s reported comments about African countries and Haiti as “particularly harsh and offensive”.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-vatican/vatican-newspaper-calls-trumps-shithole-comment-offensive-iduskbn1f12a7

Blogger Al January 12, 2018 1:54 PM  

At 49 I was referring to @28, not @38.

Blogger Al January 12, 2018 1:58 PM  

@50 Crusader

We actual Catholics, now called "traditional" Catholics, well understand that the Vatican has been--since the Judas Council (the Second Vatican Council, 1962-65)-occupied by a series of Judas Popes, with Pope Francis being the supreme embodiment of post-Judas Council perfidy.

I strongly recommend reading the site called akacatholic dot com. Also traditioninaction dot org.

Anonymous Frogger January 12, 2018 1:59 PM  

What is the probability that the post-1965 immigrants will be deported in time? If it is very low, what will be the safest part of the US be to live in when the 2033 event comes to pass?

Anonymous andon January 12, 2018 2:04 PM  

You also desperately need to read the epic book entitled The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit...

i hate that term because what they're doing is subverting and destroying the countries that they are a guest in as a tiny tiny minority and they cause all kinds of death and destruction (German Revolution, Russian Revolution, etc). They think they have the right to do this.

Anonymous BBGKB January 12, 2018 2:09 PM  

Some ideas are just that potent and the Natives didn't have the power to defend against those that were going to operate differently

One of the biggest deals was that Indians needed multiple square miles per person to survive by foraging, but white settlers could survive on an acre per person. Manhattan was actually too small for the selling tribe to survive on.

Mitt Romney, is that you? Aww, no need to clutch your pearls

Clutch your pearls as hard as you can. BGS Bariatric Fainting Couches and Slightly Clutched Pearls is having a sale. Use coupon code CUCKED

Anonymous AB.Prosper January 12, 2018 2:10 PM  

Looking for Clarity wrote:Even an all white, but still multi-ethnic, America isn't any less 'magic dirt' based thinking. Basically, if you can't trace your ancestry back to English America 1776, preferably on both sides, then 'you have to go back'.

I can trace my ancestors to the Colonial Era, one of them is little known but quite important. That however is an idiotic idea and I'd gladly join the rest of the Americans who have been here for a hundred years or less in a fight against that sort of idiocy

Outraged in Utah wrote:Drumph’s comments were unpresidential, undignified, unchristian and ungentlemanlike. All conservatives need to reject. Impeachment now!

Lazarus wrote:@33

Utah is a shithole, Mormons are Satanists, and your'e an idiot.


Only the last part is true, so very true

I've met and spent time with Satanists. Mormons don't come close to evil.

Mormons are theologically errant but in general they live excellent Christian moral lives and are Christian . Weird but Christian

Utah is a really pleasant state as well, been there many times. It also has the highest White Fertility rate in the US and above replacement . I'd live there in a minute except for all the Mormons who I quite like but have no wish to join .

Considered it, did the religious study. Nope. The theology is off.

That said if the evangelicals take that seriously and don't stifle that shit , there is going to be another 30 years war if/when things fall apart.

Eventually during the chaos , good chance the Chinese will just hit the US with tailored plagues kill everyone and take over or the rest of the sane people will have pick sides , the Mormons will win that draw

Nobody wants this .

All that aside, the poop is still an idiot

Blogger Matamoros January 12, 2018 2:11 PM  

What`s Up With White Women—And White Men?
http://www.vdare.com/articles/whats-up-with-white-women-and-white-men

Blogger Matamoros January 12, 2018 2:16 PM  

@24 http://www.vdare.com/articles/whats-up-with-white-women-and-white-men

Exactly so. Belloc summed it up well in his quote: "Europe is the Faith, the Faith is Europe."

For those interested in the End Times, I have been reading Brian Godawa's "End Times Bible Prophecy: It’s Not What They Told You" and have found it enlightening even with years of theology behind me.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 12, 2018 2:24 PM  

The Spanish had come as conquerors. The French as traders. The Wave 1 (English) immigrants to what would become the United States came specifically as settlers.

Which goes a long way in explaining why most of the world's shitholes are former Spanish or French colonies, while the former English colonies are some of the most successful on the planet (US, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc.).

Blogger Zerk J January 12, 2018 2:39 PM  

The Brazil future is most probable. White dudes love them some good brown pussy!

Anonymous trev006 January 12, 2018 2:54 PM  

TSC, even looking at Africa, it's kind of sad that Egypt and South Africa were historically the continent's most successful states- and of course, it's Britain to the rescue again. By contrast, states that were literal gold mines, such as in the Congo, have been wracked with genocide in olden times. Aka twenty years ago. Is that an artifact of the other empires collapsing and leaving little guidance, whereas the end of British colonialism led to a more enlightened end? Pakistan might have words about that.

As for the points that many others brought up earlier, I think natives should have been able to replenish their losses more easily, for the obvious reason that it was their territory and they had few compunctions about forcing white settler women into their tribes. Economically... I wonder. Yes the Industrial Revolution was a phenomenon which non-white countries would have a hard time competing against, but the Watt engine came after the American Revolution. Could the native tribes have united and done serious damage? The Iroquois Confederacy saw multiple tribes take massive amounts of territory in pre-Revolutionary times. They might have had more, and changed the face of North America, if they had more support from France- due to intermarriage, let's say.

Too lenient with immigrants, or not lenient enough? You can say Mexico is crappy compared to America or even Canada, and that's fair, but it still has a sizable native presence thanks to previous intermarriage with white settlers. By the standards of looking after its native population, Mexico is doing a lot better than the Iroquois are. I'm not sure there is a one size fits all answer to how nations should treat immigrants, especially as they've been legally invited here for decades, but fighting them all without exception is probably going to fail. Though inviting even more of them will fail too, that's just common sense.

Blogger KingTooter January 12, 2018 3:19 PM  

Absolutely correct

Blogger Chris Mallory January 12, 2018 3:24 PM  

Napoleon 12pdr wrote:The religious persecutions, followed by the English Civil War and Restoration, created a massive flow of refugees.

My paternal ancestor who first came to America was given a grant of land by an uncle after Cromwell's men burned the family home.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 12, 2018 3:27 PM  

Elder Son wrote:The whole, "I am of original, and only Englishman settler stock", is just garbage. The fact is, most people have not done their ancestry, nor their DNA,

I have done both and you are a liar. In my ancestor's case it is true. Just because you are some kind of immigrant mutt doesn't mean all of us are.

Blogger AaMcavoy January 12, 2018 3:28 PM  

Outraged in Utah wrote:Drumph’s comments were unpresidential, undignified, unchristian and ungentlemanlike. All conservatives need to reject. Impeachment now!

Don't speak for Utah. You can virtue-signal in priesthood meeting, but here you're a traitor.

Blogger Chris Mallory January 12, 2018 3:36 PM  

AB.Prosper wrote:I'd gladly join the rest of the Americans who have been here for a hundred years or less in a fight against that sort of idiocy

If they have only been here 100 years, they are not Americans.

AB.Prosper wrote:Mormons are theologically errant but in general they live excellent Christian moral lives and are Christian . Weird but Christian

Mormons are a lot of things, but Christian is not one of them.

Blogger Lazarus January 12, 2018 3:40 PM  

@56
Only the last part is true, so very true

I know. I just thought one completely ludicrous statement deserved to be met with another.
With a bit of truth for seasoning, of course.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 12, 2018 3:46 PM  

As Chesterton reminded us, "Christian" is not a mere synonym for "good person".

Blogger AaMcavoy January 12, 2018 3:51 PM  

Lazarus wrote:@33

Utah is a shithole, Mormons are Satanists, and your'e an idiot.


Utah has some of the lowest crime, highest number of Anglo descendants, and highest birthrates (outside Salt Lake) in the US. It's also one of the most gun-friendly states around. Downtown Salt Lake has beautiful gothic architecture around Temple Square.

The air quality is absolutely terrible, though. Too many Satanists, I guess.

Anonymous DissidentRight January 12, 2018 3:56 PM  

@45 Your post at @24 is trash because of this “supernatural vocation” bullshit. Blacks and whites and Jews are all unequal. And Jesus doesn’t care about equality. Jesus doesn’t care about who your parents are. God can raise up stones to be “children of Abraham”.

@47 You’re an idiot. The entire New Testament was written in the 1st century, and it is riddled with the term “Jew”. Saint Paul literally brags about being a Jew. It was a major event when Saint Peter (a Jew) baptized a bunch of gentiles and they received the Holy Spirit. Why? Because the Early Church was dominated by Jews. Also, the fact that modern day Jews are descended from Christ-killing pharisee-lovers doesn’t change the fact that 100% of the apostles were Jews, that Jesus was a Jew, and that at least one of the pharisees (Saint Paul) repented.

Gee, and here I thought most of the "apostles" were Galilean. Like the Messiah. […] Not only are they not Judeans, they are mostly not Semitic either.

Ah yes, tell me more about that Galilean Magic Dirt. You’re retarded. 100% of the Galilean apostles were Jewish, and you can tell because the other Jews let them worship at the temple. Checkmate, moron. This is as dumb as saying that Southerners aren’t American because they haven’t got a Yankee accent.

By the way, this is a theological literacy test. If you think that “Jesus doesn’t care about who your parents are” = “we must secure the existence of multinational globalist Jewry and a future for half-breeds”, you are an idiot. Christians who advocate for multinational globalism are traitors and should be stripped of political privileges, deported, or shot.

@49 I’m red-pilled on the Jews. This has nothing to do with the Early Church.

Anonymous Elder Son January 12, 2018 3:58 PM  

@12 If Powhatan hadn't betrayed the Indians by giving the tobacco farmers the secret to curing tobacco

LMAO. John Rolfe Jr. and Matoaka Amonute Powhatan are my 12th g-grandparents. That didn't happen. He got his trade secrets from S. America and the Spaniards, and experimented growing tobacco, with Spaniard seeds, in unfavorable Northern climates. Funny though.

Anyhow, the Indian tribes were their own worst enemies, especially in the West. They were mostly busy fighting themselves, taking sides, and building up their immunity, to White mans disease. It was nothing like the Cowboy and Indian movies.

Blogger Unknown January 12, 2018 4:33 PM  

Just don't expect us to lift a finger, shed a tear, or open the gates when those on whose behalf you are preening and posturing decide to take what you have away from you.

You're not interested in defending anything, just in making perennial predictions of doom from another country then pointing and shrieking "I told you so" when the fingers you're not lifting and the tears you're not shedding save nothing. I hope I got that right.

Looks like you're field-testing an Alt-Right version of Triggly Puff for the new Alt Hero comic. The outrage, how it jiggles!

Anonymous Kyle January 12, 2018 4:41 PM  

Boomer conservative pissdad has spoken:

“If this is a country that’s based on the proposition that we have an American system, an American dream, an American framework that allows people to come here and work hard, and raise their families, and engage in society, and contribute to society. Then your idea that these people should be bounded out of here, because they happen to come from the ‘shithole countries’ is absurdly un-American, absurdly unconstitutional, and not conservative in any way whatsoever. And if you believe that, go on Amazon, order yourself a pointy white hat, head down to Home Depot and get the wood to build a burning cross, cause that’s the kind of thing you’re talking about. That’s where your attitude leads to.”

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/12/rick-wilson-melts-down-threatens-to-gut-panelist-like-a-fish-on-cnn-video/

Wilson bumped heads with talk show host John Fredericks, saying, “You know, hearing John’s defense of Trump and of this overtly racist aspect of it, it shocks me that we still have people in this country, you know, don’t bother calling yourself a conservative if you don’t believe that there’s a way where people who come and embrace the proposition of this country can become Americans. Because we’ve worked very hard in this country to accept people from around the world and of varying backgrounds, and you know what, John? I’m sure your ancestors here weren’t descended from the Mayflower in some cloud of heavenly light. I’m sure they came here from Ireland or Germany or Italy or somewhere else. And you know what? Back then, they were the shithole people. Back then, they were the people who were looked down upon.”

Blogger BlowMe January 12, 2018 4:54 PM  

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Blogger BlowMe January 12, 2018 5:06 PM  

"I’m sure they came here from Ireland or Germany or Italy or somewhere else. And you know what? Back then, they were the shithole people. Back then, they were the people who were looked down upon.”

Back then, they were the people who had IQs higher than Fahrenheit room temperature.

Back then, they were the people who didn't have a government who undermined its citizens on their behalf.

Anonymous a_peraspera January 12, 2018 5:40 PM  

And there it is. Show even the slightest doubt or resistance to the GloboHomo elites' plan to have endless rivers of brown meat flowing into the US, and suddenly you're a literal KKK Nazi.

Anonymous Causal Lurker January 12, 2018 7:08 PM  

Going back to the OP, my uncles' response back in the day (they were 3G) ranged from "%^&* that sh$t" to "click-clack" figuratively chambering a round. No one paid attention to the youngest nephew, who was in earshot but considered too small to remember. Yeah, right; I understood what they said or implied and their reasons. Also had an idea of why my grandfathers picked up and moved from the old neighborhood. I got in (mom-level) trouble a couple times for saying things I shouldn't have known about at a young age.

I consider a different reason. Teddy being 3G? Maybe, possibly. Teddy being the Excess (Useless) Prince, with no f&cking clue? Oh, h#ll yes! Cowardly Lyin' of the Senate, all right.

Anonymous Avalanche January 12, 2018 7:15 PM  

@53 "what will be the safest part of the US be to live in when the 2033 event comes to pass?"

The ARMED part!

Blogger Lazarus January 12, 2018 7:39 PM  

@69 AaMcavoy

See comment @67

Blogger Lovekraft January 12, 2018 7:50 PM  

Here are the various options for public discourse of the pressing issues re race:

1. vitriolic and deceptive legacy media pushing standard SJW/Political Correctness. The Obama 'Vision.'
2. on the flipside, alt-media struggling to even stay afloat, as demonetization, deplatforming, censorship etc tightens the noose.
3. globalist think tanks, the United Nations-type bodies. No one on the ground thinks anything constructive really gets done here. Tax money sinkholes and PR exercises.
4. Government committees. Filled with partisan hacks, bogged down with red tape, watered down.

Then there comes Trump. Throws everything up in the air and ...

The result is exposure of the tactics the deceitful globalist human traffickers employ to distract and divide. The public is observing this and either 1. gets disillusioned and is lulled into a numb apathy or 2. starts to ask questions that Trump ignited.

The alt-right is like Trump's message honers, filtering out those who want a return to the fog. Whether they're memers, bloggers, visionaries, philosophers, they all play a part in shedding the false truth of Political Correctness/Cultural Marxism.

Blogger Akulkis January 13, 2018 3:11 AM  

Considering the damage done to the country by the Kennedy family, i'm beginning to think that the Constitution's author's prohibition of Bills of Attainder was not entirely well-thought out.

Blogger James January 13, 2018 11:58 AM  

DissidentRight wrote:@45 Your post at @24 The entire New Testament was written in the 1st century, and it is riddled with the term “Jew”.

Ah yes, tell me more about that Galilean Magic Dirt. You’re retarded. 100% of the Galilean apostles were Jewish, and you can tell because the other Jews let them worship at the temple. Checkmate, moron.


Moron, huh? You know what they say about projection, don't you? If you can show me one of the New Testaments from the 1st century that has the word "jew" in it, I will give you a bazillion dollars. The term "jew" that is translated into newer English versions of the Bible is almost always a translation of the Aramaic word for "Judean". What the word "jew" today means is either a genetic reference or used to mean followers of the "jewish" religion. No "jewish" religion existed in the 1st century AD. However, as Rabbi Dr. Louis Finkelstein, former president of the Jewish Theological Seminary of America, wrote:

“Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaptation of custom, and adjustment of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered."

You are aware of what the Messiah said about the Pharisees, aren't you?

You do not comprehend that the "religion" of the Israelites as codified in the Mosaic Law was controlled by the Sanhedrin. If you could prove your lineage, which was recorded in the Temple, you could worship there. Within the body of Israelite descendants that followed the Law, there were many sects, of which the Pharisees were the most numerous. The term "jew" as a religious designation did not come into existence until the year 1775. Prior to 1775 the word "Jew" did not exist in any language. The word "Jew" was introduced into the English for the first time in the 18th century when Sheridan used it in his play "The Rivals", II,i, "She shall have a skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew". Prior to this use of the word "Jew" in the English language, the word "Jew" had not become a word in the English language. Shakespeare never used the word "Jew" in any of his works. In his "Merchant of Venice", V.III.i.61, Shakespeare wrote as follows: "what is the reason? I am a Iewe; hath not a Iewe eyes?".

The available manuscripts from the 4th century to the 18th century accurately trace the origin and give the complete history of the word "Jew" in the English language. In these manuscripts are to be found all the many earlier English equivalents extending through the 14 centuries from the 4th to the 18th century. From the Latin "Iudaeus" to the English "Jew" these English forms included successively: Gyu, Giu, Iu, Iuu, Iuw, Ieuu, Ieuy, Iwe, Iow, Iewe, leue, Iue, Ive, lew, and then finally in the 18th century, jew.

To claim the word "jew" in English Bibles as being equivalent to a modern practitioner of the Talmudic religion is shear ignorance. It is almost always used as strictly a national identity, i.e., like American. There were many different ethnic "Judeans". Galilean is a different national designation. This is where the Messiah and most of the Apostles came from. The Messiah said the Pharisees were of their Father the Devil. Would he say that if he were a "jew"? You need to study, jack.

Anonymous Captain America January 13, 2018 1:50 PM  

The reality is that Americans are white, black, Hispanic, Native American, Asian, and Middle Eastern, and that all whites are American. That's just how it is despite many protestations here.

As far as this "top priority to get traitors", the same posters here aren't going to get their guns and start a rebellion...they are simply "blowing off steam" as low-T men. Exactly the sentiment why this particular group of Americans are so poorly educated, or just plain miseducated, in that they have no grasp of reality.

Indeed, normies will start thinking differently if and when those on the Alt Right openly discuss conquering territory in North America by force. The level of brutality inflicted by normies will be staggering.

Anonymous DissidentRight January 13, 2018 3:50 PM  

@82 The term "jew" that is translated into newer English versions of the Bible is almost always a translation of the Aramaic word for "Judean”.  What the word "jew" today means is either a genetic reference or used to mean followers of the "jewish" religion. No "jewish" religion existed in the 1st century AD.

The term "jew" as a religious designation did not come into existence until the year 1775. Prior to 1775 the word "Jew" did not exist in any language.

Take your stupid sophism and shove it. The region was called “Judea” because it was the homeland of the Southern Kingdom of Israel, aka Judah, so named precisely because it was dominated by members of the tribe of Judah. The term “Jew” refers to the people who, after the end of the Babylonian captivity, were able to prove their ancestry.

To claim the word "jew" in English Bibles as being equivalent to a modern practitioner of the Talmudic religion is shear ignorance.

I never claimed that. Read your own quote: “But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaptation of custom, and adjustment of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered.” The essence of modern Judaism had already emerged amongst the Jews by the time of Jesus.

There were many different ethnic "Judeans”.

Take your sophism and shove it. In this context, Judean = verified descendent of one of the 12 tribes (in particular Judah, Levi, Benjamin, Simeon) = member of the religion of Moses and David = theological descendant of Nehemiah and Ezra = Jew.

Galilean is a different national designation.

Is that kind of like how Southerners aren’t real Americans because they’re not Yankees?

[Galilee] is where the Messiah and most of the Apostles came from.

Both Mary and Joseph were literal decedents of David. Did Galilean magic dirt change Jesus’ ethnicity?

The fact that the apostles all worshiped in the temple blows your theory of ‘Galileans ≠ Jews’ out of the water.

The Messiah said the Pharisees were of their Father the Devil. Would he say that if he were a "jew"? You need to study, jack.

As I said, Jesus does not give a damn about who your parents are. Jesus cares about your faith in him. What makes Pharisees, all unbelieving Jews, and all unbelievers in general “children of the devil” is their rejection of Christ. By the way, Saint Paul was a Pharisee, and therefore by your retarded definition, a “child of the devil”. Do you even read the Bible? Ever heard of “circumcise your heart”? The concept of false Israelites is riddled throughout the OT, just as the concept of false Jews is riddled throughout the new.

You are aware of what the Messiah said about the Pharisees, aren't you?

Yes, and what Jesus said of the pharisees broadly applies to the modern day religion of Judaism.

You do not comprehend that the "religion" of the Israelites as codified in the Mosaic Law was controlled by the Sanhedrin. If you could prove your lineage, which was recorded in the Temple, you could worship there.

I am intimately familiar with the history of the Israelites, as described in Scripture.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 13, 2018 10:13 PM  

trev006 wrote:Economically... I wonder. Yes the Industrial Revolution was a phenomenon which non-white countries would have a hard time competing against, but the Watt engine came after the American Revolution. Could the native tribes have united and done serious damage? The Iroquois Confederacy saw multiple tribes take massive amounts of territory in pre-Revolutionary times. They might have had more, and changed the face of North America, if they had more support from France- due to intermarriage, let's say.

Indians had warriors and hunters. Englishmen had soldiers, farmers, blacksmiths and so on. I think that's it, in a nut shell.

Blogger pahope January 14, 2018 10:14 PM  

"and if a significant portion of the post-1965 immigrants and their descendants are not repatriated in the next decade"

I arrived in 1970, does that mean you want me to get out? And my American-born daughter? What about my America-born husband? Lastly, what of my Ukraine-born adopted son? :-)

Blogger Lucius Cincinnatus January 15, 2018 1:47 AM  

We know who is to blame for this invasion.

We know the problems this invasion has caused and will continue to cause.

Is a bloody, strife-filled Balkanization really the best possible outcome?

Anonymous Luke January 16, 2018 8:04 PM  

86. pahope January 14, 2018 10:14 PM
""and if a significant portion of the post-1965 immigrants and their descendants are not repatriated in the next decade"

I arrived in 1970, does that mean you want me to get out? And my American-born daughter? What about my America-born husband? Lastly, what of my Ukraine-born adopted son?"


1) Are all of you white?

2) Do all of you speak English at least fluently, preferably as your native language (with as your SOLE language being best of all)?

3) Are all of you at least nominally Christian?

4) Are you noncriminal and productive? (Hint: if you work in any remotely law- or or government-related fields, it's not looking good for you.)

5) Do you consider the U.S. as it was in 1950 to have the best culture and founding documents of any major nation in the world in the past century? (That is, Communism/ socialism, feminism, anti-white racism, environmentalism, etc., should all be anaethema to you.)

6) Do any of you ever have sex with NAMs?

If your answers are ALL good, then you can probably stay.

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