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Tuesday, January 30, 2018

Smells like Girlbusters

SJWs are running their usual routine of breathlessly talking up a heavily converged product that they know the mainstream audience isn't going to like very much.
Ash Crossan, Entertainment Tonight video producer
Ladies and gentlemen we have an AMAZING villain. #BlackPanther was so good I can’t breathe. AND DANAI GURIRA HOLY F@$&?!?!? I LOVE this movie.

Geeks of Color
Black Panther is the best MCU movie ever. I was blown away from start to finish and I’m not even being biased. This was by far the best marvel movie to date. Thank you, Ryan Coogler!

jen yamato@jenyamato
BLACK PANTHER is incredible, kinetic, purposeful. A superhero movie about why representation & identity matters, and how tragic it is when those things are denied to people. The 1st MCU movie about something real; Michael B. Jordan’s Killmonger had me weeping and he’s the VILLAIN

Nate Brail@NateBrail
Black Panther is the best Marvel Film ever made. Nothing compares to it. Michael B. Jordan and Letitia Wright steal the show. The visuals are incredible. Go see it.

Adam B. Vary of Buzzfeed
BLACK PANTHER is just astonishing. Ryan Coogler has harnessed the superhero movie — and a really fun one! — to explore profound ideas and create vivid images of black excellence that so rarely ever make it to a giant Hollywood movie. Wow wow wow!

Peter Sciretta, owner/editor at Slashfilm
Black Panther looks, feels and sounds unlike any Marvel film to date. A visual feast. Wakanda is amazingly realized, the antagonist actually has an arc with emotional motivations. Marvels most political movie. So good.

IndieWire senior film critic David Ehrlich
BLACK PANTHER is like a Marvel movie, but better. the action is predictably awful, but this is the first MCU film that has an actual sense of identity & history & musicality. Wakanda is alive. whole cast is great but the women (and the war rhinos) steal the show — Danai Gurira!

Huffington Post Black Voices associate editor Taryn Finley
I'm so excited to see #BlackPanther again when I'm with friends. Not only did it live up to the hype, it exceeded expectations and exuded #BlackExcellence with every scene.

ReBecca Theodore-Vachon, Film/TV contributor Entertainment Weekly, Forbes, NYTimes, Roger Ebert, The Urban Daily
The representation of Black women in #BlackPanther made me feel seen. Seen in a way other superhero movies have not done well.
Now, perhaps the movie is genuinely good. Perhaps this time, the critics can be trusted and they aren't simply blowing more SJW smoke up the collective posteriors of the moviegoing public. But the safe bet is that these critics are converged and have therefore lost their ability to perform their primary function of reviewing movies and it won't be long before they are blaming racism, America, and the Alt-Right for the failure of the movie to bring in as much revenue as anticipated.

This is a really big deal to them, because they know that if Black Panther fails, there won't be another big money diversity movie for another generation or two of movie-making. So it is not even remotely surprising that they are uniformly praising it the biggest and bestest and most importantest movie ever made.

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194 Comments:

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 30, 2018 8:07 AM  

It's being released in mid February of all times. How good can it be?

Blogger Sillon Bono January 30, 2018 8:09 AM  

Can tell by the comments the movie is a piece of work.

Blogger yoghi.llama January 30, 2018 8:11 AM  

Black Pigeon gave a list of reasons why it might be an unintentended Alt Right classic.

https://youtu.be/POZCF9t9FUI

I hope he's right.

Blogger S1AL January 30, 2018 8:13 AM  

The most insidious cost of affirmative action is that you can't trust anything said about (minority group member's ability) as a result. I'm an outspoken fan of Marvel Studios, but all of this hype concerns me. And that's with a good actor in the lead slot.

Screw SJW's.

Blogger MendoScot January 30, 2018 8:13 AM  

I can't wait for 8 vaginas to come out - with a cast like that, what could possibly go wrong?

Blogger Shimshon January 30, 2018 8:21 AM  

That sounds more like a series of Project Mockingbird bots (mockingbots?) than actual human writers.

Anonymous NH January 30, 2018 8:22 AM  

made me feel seen.

I feel the same way when I imagine myself as John McClane.

::giggles:

Anonymous Anonymous January 30, 2018 8:22 AM  

Hopefully it turns out to be a decent flick. What amuses me is that the Wakandans don't give 2 hoots for the rest of Africa and are thoroughly nationalist and isolationist.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera January 30, 2018 8:24 AM  

Race is just a social construct. What is "black" anyway? How can "black" be an identity if you can't even define it?

Blogger Constantin January 30, 2018 8:24 AM  

I don't particularly care about Marvel Superhero movies anymore, but if I still did, those posts would instantly kill my enthusiasm.


I remember when some Youtuber called Cinemassacre got attacked by SJWs for making a video saying he won't be watching the Ghostbusters 2016 remake, where he didn't say anything about women just that he didn't feel it would be as good as the original. If they shithammered that guy for such an innocuous thing, can you imagine what they'll do to the next critic who is going to give the tiniest of criticism towards Black Panther? It's gonna be a full blown witch hunt.

Maybe it is a good movie, maybe it isn't. All I know is Marvel and Disney don't deserve my money even if the product they sell is GOLD.

Blogger TrueBag PipeRock January 30, 2018 8:28 AM  

I'm sure it will do well, but face it, if you are a white boy, you are probably NOT welcome in the theater just like you are NOT welcome in the NBA, the NFL, or The Grammys. Diversity and "inclusiveness" means the same thing as it does at Google, where whites are literally booed and heckled. I would see it, but do NOT feel welcome

Anonymous Pug January 30, 2018 8:28 AM  

Wakanda is alt-right country.

Black Panther is alt-right hero.

Alt-right should claim it for themselves.

Blogger Harambe January 30, 2018 8:29 AM  

Longtime Lurker wrote:It's being released in mid February of all times. How good can it be?

I happened to really like Deadpool, FWIW. And that came out on valentine's day.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 January 30, 2018 8:30 AM  

In my lifetime, the White Liberal Establishment has done an amazingly successful job of mentally enslaving blacks with with racism paranoia and government dependency.
Government Inc. and the Left hand side of the entertainment bell curve have profited enormously from this greedy manipulation of a weak people.

The entertainment industry has been a prime progressive cancer in this regard.

No promotion to be sexually responsible in order to reduce the catastrophically high rates of unwed pregnancies and STDs among blacks.
No, black people's problems are the result of those evil White folks conspiring to keep black folks down.

It's true because we see it on TV and movies and hear in music.

"Black Panther" will just be another bar to the mental cage that the Left has their pathetically loyal slaves locked into.

Blogger Zaklog the Great January 30, 2018 8:32 AM  

So, "Captain America", a movie about a white American risking everything to fight for his country during WWII has no "sense of identity & history"? I guess whites having a sense of identity and history doesn't count.

It is hilarious how they're all repeating the same phrase like a magical incantation: "black excellence". Do you think Michael Brown was an exemplar of "black excellence"? Committing petty robberies, high out of his mind, shot while committing assault. Yup, that sounds like black excellence to me!

Anonymous Eduardo January 30, 2018 8:32 AM  

Yo Vox! Where is your Anglo-Aztec representation bruh!?!

Bunch of HollyNaziWooders...

Anonymous TheTruthIsAlwaysUnacceptable January 30, 2018 8:32 AM  

yoghi.llama wrote:Black Pigeon gave a list of reasons why it might be an unintentended Alt Right classic.

https://youtu.be/POZCF9t9FUI

I hope he's right.


My wife and I are going to see the movie on Feb 16th. Will let you know what we think. That said, I can see where he is coming from in the commentary and its possible validity.

Anonymous p-dawg January 30, 2018 8:33 AM  

Sorry, the message I have received is that people shouldn't like something if it doesn't represent them. Since I'm not Wakandan, this movie doesn't make me feel seen, so I can't see it. That's how it works, right?

Blogger Dexter January 30, 2018 8:35 AM  

"A superhero movie about why representation & identity matters, and how tragic it is when those things are denied to people."

That's probably #15,636,964 on the list of most tragic things that have ever happened.

"create vivid images of black excellence "

Wait, is this movie about wide receivers? Jerry Rice, Super Hero?

Blogger Zaklog the Great January 30, 2018 8:37 AM  

@13 StrongCoffee61 In my lifetime, the White Liberal Establishment has done an amazingly successful job of mentally enslaving blacks with with racism paranoia and government dependency.

What, you mean a systematic program to destroy a people's soul?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ToDestroyAPeople

Blogger Dexter January 30, 2018 8:40 AM  

P-dawg, a movie about a high-tech African country represents you as much as anyone else on Earth, since it is totally imaginary.

Blogger Bobiojimbo January 30, 2018 8:40 AM  

"Marvels most political movie," no thanks. I've seen Marvel's politics already.

Blogger Bobiojimbo January 30, 2018 8:42 AM  

"Marvels most political movie," no thanks. I've seen Marvel's politics already.

Anonymous Steveo January 30, 2018 8:46 AM  

Dare I say it?
Dare I?

I must, for soon cometh...

The White Panther.


bwwaaahahahahaha
SJW fun on a Tues.

Anonymous Avalanche January 30, 2018 8:48 AM  

@8 "Wakandans don't give 2 hoots for the rest of Africa and are thoroughly nationalist and isolationist."

(Just listened to Black Pigeon.)

We should meme the absolute-HELL out of that -- quotes and screen caps from the movie -- REALLY stressing that this "black heaven" wants them ON THEIR OWN, and not dependent on Whites and so on.

Humans (and subhuman primates) DO tend to 'identify' with movie heroes; if the protagonists (cause they AIN'T heroes!) push weak liberal soyboys OR 'responsible black communities' as winning examples -- perhaps we can add the smallest bit of 'English' to turning this behemoth of a converged nation? (Oh dear -- how many people will NOT know pool hall slang?! "English" in the pool hall = when a cue ball is struck on either side of its vertical axis, giving it 'side spin' which is called English).

Let's try to 'side spin' nationalism and the end to black dependency and criminality!

Blogger B.J. January 30, 2018 8:49 AM  

The over-praising is suspicious. It can't just be a good movie, it has to be the BEST movie and BETTER than any previous normal/white guy movie. I'm a big MCU fan but I'm not going to see this one because I don't care for the politics.

Anonymous Avalanche January 30, 2018 8:50 AM  

@10 "face it, if you are a white boy, you are probably NOT welcome in the theater just like you are NOT welcome in the NBA, the NFL, or The Grammys."

Your list is too short! You left out England, France, Germany, Australia, Minnesota!!

Anonymous Scott January 30, 2018 8:51 AM  

"The representation of Black women in #BlackPanther made me feel seen."

What does that mean?

1. There's a creeper spying on her?
2. Her life is best represented like a character in a fantasy?
3. People will think she's a better person now?
4. Leftist mumbo jumbo

Anonymous vfm January 30, 2018 8:54 AM  

In my lifetime, the White Liberal Establishment has done an amazingly successful job of mentally enslaving blacks with with racism paranoia and government dependency.

They did a pretty good job of enslaving them a couple of centuries ago too.

Blogger Desdichado January 30, 2018 8:54 AM  

(Just listened to Black Pigeon.)

Love some of the comments there: his arch-nemesis, and yet also symbiotic partner that he resents: the White Cuckatoo.

Blogger Harambe January 30, 2018 8:56 AM  

Dexter wrote:P-dawg, a movie about a high-tech African country represents you as much as anyone else on Earth, since it is totally imaginary.

Hey now, I can think of at least one who developed their own nukes, had a working space programme and even pioneered several medical devices and procedures. Sure, that country is a bit different today, but it used to be good at those things not long ago!

Anonymous Barko Ramius January 30, 2018 8:57 AM  

Pretty sure there's a BP memo circulating. Already seeing promos on my shit ass win 10 news feed. It's Black History Mon and you're a racist

Anonymous Grey Owl January 30, 2018 8:59 AM  

How butt-hurt would the SJW'S be about that? Like when the right co-opted 'Fake News'.

Blogger Billy January 30, 2018 8:59 AM  

I think the movie is going to do well regardless of the quality. Black twitter is pushing so hard for it.

Anonymous Anonymous January 30, 2018 9:02 AM  

We already have Wakanda. It's called Liberia. A bunch of black American nationalists moved in, enslaved the native Africans, and turned the place into hell on Earth.

Blogger Desdichado January 30, 2018 9:03 AM  

Billy wrote:I think the movie is going to do well regardless of the quality. Black twitter is pushing so hard for it.
That's what they said about the latest Star Wars movie too. And sure; it made money. But an order of magnitude less than past offerings in the franchise. And what did the final aggregate audience score end up being at Rotten Tomatoes? Somewhere in the upper 40s.

Anonymous SG-1 January 30, 2018 9:09 AM  

Hey now, I can think of at least one who developed their own nukes, had a working space programme and even pioneered several medical devices and procedures. Sure, that country is a bit different today, but it used to be good at those things not long ago!

Ancient Egypt doesn't count.

Anonymous VFM #3606 January 30, 2018 9:13 AM  

"but the women (and the war rhinos) steal the show"

That's redundant.

Besides, not all black women are thieves.

Blogger Johnny January 30, 2018 9:14 AM  

Billy wrote:I think the movie is going to do well regardless of the quality. Black twitter is pushing so hard for it.

The background on this stuff is that they are damaging their brand. Sell a Zoomer car that breaks down frequently and you won't get to sell another Zommer even if the thing makes money early on. And so it is with the latest Star Wars. It sold on reputation but damaged the brand.

We will see about Black Panther, but it sure seems like it is oversold. Being a weaker brand than Star Wars, one bad Black Panther movie will likely finish the brand off.

And I wonder, don't these critics care about their own reputation, or is that kind of thinking too deep for them. How much influence are they going to have when the last movie you went to was crud even though it got rave reviews? Answer: not much.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 9:15 AM  

> Ladies and gentlemen we have an AMAZING villain.

I.e., the villain is white. No, I have no evidence other than this comment to base that on, but how much do I need?

> Maybe it is a good movie, maybe it isn't.

Oh, a good movie about the Black Panther could be made, but this one won't be it.

The current SJW's running Marvel don't even understand what a totem animal is, or how that relats to his being the Black Panther. The also don't understand that as the rightful king of Wakanda, he's the physical embodiment of his country. Any movie that doesn't take into account those spiritual aspects of the character is a failure before it even starts.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I won't be.

> The White Panther.

Would you settle for a White Tiger? http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Robert_Diamond_%28Earth-616%29

His fighting skills are on par with those of Shang-chi or Daniel Rand-K'ai, making him of the best unarmed combat fighters in the Marvel universe.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 30, 2018 9:15 AM  

I really, really hope it has a lot of throwbacks to 70's era blaxploitation flicks. That alone would be worth the price of admission.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 9:18 AM  

Hmm. OK, I know I didn't make that many typos or leave out that many characters/words.
relats -> relates. The also -> They also. him of -> him one of.

Anonymous VFM #3606 January 30, 2018 9:18 AM  

Have you seen these idiots' past reviews, Johnny? They aren't seeking influence. They are seeking favor from their betters.

Blogger VD January 30, 2018 9:18 AM  

I think the movie is going to do well regardless of the quality. Black twitter is pushing so hard for it.

That didn't work for Girlbusters. It won't work for this one.

I.e., the villain is white.

No, you don't speak SJW. If the villain is amazing, then he has to be black.

Blogger Koanic January 30, 2018 9:21 AM  

You mean it's not about a panther that eats blacks?

I was hoping for a remake of Alien but with rock scientists instead of rocket scientists.

Anonymous ... January 30, 2018 9:25 AM  

We Wuz Kangs, The Motion Picture

Anonymous Steve Canyon January 30, 2018 9:26 AM  

What's the O/U on a brawl/drive-by in the theater parking lot?

Say what you want about Star Wars dorks, at least they're relatively well behaved.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 9:28 AM  

> No, you don't speak SJW.

Freely acknowledged.

> If the villain is amazing, then he has to be black.

Possible, but you can't have a black be a villain and still maintain the narrative. So only if he's not really a villain. I doubt they can pull that off.

Anonymous MaskettaMan January 30, 2018 9:28 AM  

I'm guessing Wakanda has seaworthy boats and buildings over one story tall? Must be a lot of whites working behind the scenes to make that happen.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 30, 2018 9:31 AM  

What's the O/U on a brawl/drive-by in the theater parking lot?

I'll put it OVER the eventual Rotten Tomatoes score, but UNDER the cumulative total of bullets that will be fired at the screens.

Blogger owlish January 30, 2018 9:31 AM  

The real question is how will it play in China.

Anonymous WOPR January 30, 2018 9:31 AM  

Look at the cast. The villain is black. They can do that in a mainly black film.

Anonymous Faceless January 30, 2018 9:32 AM  

This need for X or Y identity to be represented in its own film, its own culture, testifies that the recreation of smaller, homogenous nations is a certainty and that America as we know it will be destroyed soon and broken apart, as the imperial throne in DC lacks the ability of the Roman holding company to compartmentalize things.

You can't portray a black identity in this manner and simultaneously have a yellow, red, brown, or white identity. Since people have decided the movies must represent them, this sort of weird fawning will accelerate the demand for separation.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 9:32 AM  

> but with rock scientists

You may not know how accurate you are. The reason Wakanda is such a rich country is because it has one of the few known reserves of Vibranium: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Vibranium

Anonymous WOPR January 30, 2018 9:33 AM  

I bet they don't even screen it in China.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 9:33 AM  

> Look at the cast.

Why would I want to do that?

> The villain is black.

OK, so I've been wrong before. I stand corrected.

Anonymous TheTruthIsAlwaysUnacceptable January 30, 2018 9:35 AM  

Re: Black Panther Villains only one of three is white:
1. Erik Killmonger is played by Michael B. Jordan, and is a Wakandan exile who seeks to overthrow T’Challa from the throne.

2. M’Baku is also known as the Man-Ape, and is the second strongest warrior in Wakanda. In the comics, M’Baku wanted Wakanda to return to a primitive state, so he joined forces with a radical religious cabal known as the White Gorilla Cult, who performed a supernatural ritual that endowed him with superhuman abilities.

3. Ulysses Klaue, a South African arms smuggler who got in the way of the Avengers in their fight against Ultron. In 2015’s Age of Ultron, Ultron severed Ulysses’s arm, and since then, Ulysses got himself Mega Man-like upgrades in Black Panther.

Blogger VD January 30, 2018 9:35 AM  

Possible, but you can't have a black be a villain and still maintain the narrative. So only if he's not really a villain. I doubt they can pull that off.

Again, you don't understand how this works. The whole point is to replicate what white movies do. So, the black villain has to be a really cool villain who almost, but not quite, steals the movie from the hero. He will be noble, but misguided, with motives that are sympathetic.

Translation: he is a rival to the throne who wants to save Wakanda in an excessively ruthless manner that the hero has to stop.

That's my guess, anyhow.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 30, 2018 9:35 AM  

Main Villain is played by Michael B. Jordan. The guy can actually act, so that's what they probably mean. He's going to be the head of a rival clan and attempt to usurp the crown, with the help from Andy Serkis. If they both understand what movie they're in, they should do their scenes pretty well.

The absolutely massive Red Flag, though, is almost no talk of Black Panther himself. That's not a good sign for anyone, and it points to a lot people intentionally skipping important details. They're probably skipping around weak acting and the reality that, as Black Pigeon pointed out, they basically have a character that Kings of a hyper-nationalist Switzerland. The viewers are supposed to cheer for a hereditary Monarch that defeats/kills a usurper to the crown. The post-release gyrations are going to be hilarious.

We're going to meme the SJWs to death after this releases on streaming/BluRay. It's going to be fun.

Blogger Chris Ritchie January 30, 2018 9:36 AM  

to explore profound ideas and create vivid images of black excellence that so rarely ever make it to a giant Hollywood movie. Wow wow wow!

You mean movies like Coming to America or commercials where they have black people living in McMansions? That kind of excellence? I just don't know anyone, black or white, who lives in palatial estates like we see in the commercials.

Blogger Dexter January 30, 2018 9:36 AM  

Vibranium is the critical element that makes the soil of Wakanda so magic.

Blogger Jimmy The Freak January 30, 2018 9:39 AM  

If we are talking true to life then the villain will be a Chinese mastermind out to exploit Wakanda for its natural resources. Then Captain Planet will set everything to right! Oh... I mean Left! Wait... ummmm... PROGRESS!

Blogger Sean Anderson January 30, 2018 9:40 AM  

I loved it.

It was much better than ‘Cats’.

I’m going to see it again and again.

Blogger tuberman January 30, 2018 9:41 AM  

There will be some who see this movie many, many times. And, the chans will Meme the nationalism, independence, and anti-globalism of this movie into tomorrow land.

They should just stick to gun-slinger movies, where a black kills a bunch of whites to get tons of multiple black views without anti-globalism.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 30, 2018 9:42 AM  

@49 owlish

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_dt_dt

Japan releases on March 1 & China on March 9th. Which means they've already written off getting any real returns from Asia. Marvel/Disney could still make money off this, but the budget has to be pretty low.

Blogger Johnny January 30, 2018 9:44 AM  

VFM #3606 wrote:Have you seen these idiots' past reviews, Johnny? They aren't seeking influence. They are seeking favor from their betters.
Either I have lost interest in movies or movies have lost interest in me. I no longer give this stuff enough attention to sort through individual critics. I suppose I could go by publication.

Blogger Karl January 30, 2018 9:46 AM  

Woman banned from twitch for African cooking channel of course she's only half black so it's culture appropriation. https://mobile.twitter.com/BrittanyVenti/status/957379376080916481

Anonymous b3k January 30, 2018 9:46 AM  

@VD

One should expect the villain to be black based on the post-modern morality of power. Power == Good, therefore the two most powerful people in the film, the two most good, must both be correctly representative.

Anonymous kfg January 30, 2018 9:49 AM  

Dear Xer Yamato,

Was it your intention to give me the impression that Black Panther is so awful that it should be avoided like the Black Death? If so you have succeeded.

If not, I am left to the conclusion that you are neurologically atypical and don't understand how people work. Perhaps you would feel more at home in the ball pit.

Try your best not to pee in it, but we'll understand when you fail.

Anonymous Pug January 30, 2018 9:49 AM  

There has to be a daily meme about alt right Black Panther. Black Panther is ours. It's a perfect target.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 30, 2018 9:49 AM  

I support Black Nationalism

Anonymous BBGKB January 30, 2018 9:51 AM  

The movie had lots of preorders I fear taxpayers will be paying for black school kids to see this movie on field trips as has occurred with other black ""history"" movies.

but with rock scientists

Common Core teaches that the worlds richest man was an African nigking who had lots of surface deposits of gold in his land. When he went to Mecca he spent so much gold it lowered the worlds value of gold, basically spending like a drunk NFL player who was used to making deals like the Manhattan for beads transaction.

Anonymous TheTruthIsAlwaysUnacceptable January 30, 2018 9:53 AM  

Re: Black Panther Budget: The total budget of the movie is estimated to be between 150 – 200 million Dollars.

Blogger Desdichado January 30, 2018 9:56 AM  

James Dixon wrote:Would you settle for a White Tiger? http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Robert_Diamond_%28Earth-616%29

His fighting skills are on par with those of Shang-chi or Daniel Rand-K'ai, making him of the best unarmed combat fighters in the Marvel universe.

That would be White Hispanic Tiger.

And it's a teenaged Puerto Rican girl now, not a macho Puerto Rican man.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 30, 2018 10:00 AM  

Will this "iconic" "movement" lead to the establishment of a black utopia, a real life Wakanda where they can escape the oppression of white men and be Lange again? Maybe They could make Liberia Wakanda.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 30, 2018 10:01 AM  

Edit: * where they can be kangs again"

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 10:02 AM  

> He will be noble, but misguided, with motives that are sympathetic.

I understood that. That's what I don't think they'll be able to pull off. Obviously my communication skills aren't up to par this morning.

Blogger Johnny January 30, 2018 10:04 AM  

Would you settle for a White Tiger?

I listened to some commentary from a DC comics guy. He said as the artists aged they started making Superman look old. Too old for sales. The White Tiger would seem to suffer from that also.

Blogger Timmy3 January 30, 2018 10:04 AM  

The pre-sales were reported as the best ever. So many are buying into it. Even the title is pretty clear with Black Panther. The only issue is where Stan Lee will show up for his cameo.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 10:08 AM  

> That would be White Hispanic Tiger.

Diamond was white, not Hispanic. Others who have assumed the role since are immaterial.

Blogger Koanic January 30, 2018 10:10 AM  

Clearly blacks deserve Wakanda. And since we can't make Wakanda reality, the other way is to make blacks fiction.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 30, 2018 10:13 AM  

The only issue is where Stan Lee will show up for his cameo.

Realistically, it will be in the Wakandan Memorial Hospital, groping a sweet young Nubian nurse.

Anonymous Grayman January 30, 2018 10:18 AM  

Agree and Amplify!!! Can we get a kick starter going to heavily promote Wakanda and that Wakanda welcomes all minorities with open arms?

At the same time can we pay off one of the various African strongmen to rename his name to Wakanda for a few years? Maybe we can get some reverse immigration going!!!! I dont think it would be to hard given how common the sentiment seems to be that Wakanda represents real African history.

Anonymous Grayman January 30, 2018 10:19 AM  

rename his nation to Wakanda for a few years.....

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 30, 2018 10:22 AM  

Actually trolling BP and its fans could be a blast, no doubt the hard right morons will show up with their usual metoo antics and add the shrieks of "nigger" over and over, but every outfit has its morons.

Blogger YIH January 30, 2018 10:22 AM  

owlish wrote:The real question is how will it play in China.
Hopefully, about as bad as Star Warts did.

Blogger Resident Moron™ January 30, 2018 10:23 AM  

So, a superhero film, by definition entirely fictional, set in a fictional country, in a fictional world, in a wholly fictional universe, showing an African civilization that never existed, shows “a real sense of history”???

To what kind of deluded fool?

This reviewer’s after my title.

Anonymous Anonymous January 30, 2018 10:23 AM  

So the only place an all black government works is Fictional. Makes sense to me.

Weredragon

Blogger James January 30, 2018 10:30 AM  

Karl wrote:Woman banned from twitch for African cooking channel of course she's only half black so it's culture appropriation. https://mobile.twitter.com/BrittanyVenti/status/957379376080916481

Where were these SJW's when the gay mulatto was in office. Claiming his "blackness" was obviously cultural appropriation.

Blogger Desdichado January 30, 2018 10:33 AM  

James Dixon wrote:> That would be White Hispanic Tiger.

Diamond was white, not Hispanic. Others who have assumed the role since are immaterial.

If by "Diamond" you mean Hector Ayala, sure.

https://infogalactic.com/info/White_Tiger_(comics)

Unless there is more than one character named White Tiger, in which case the one I'm referring to is certainly much more prominent.

Anonymous Grayman January 30, 2018 10:34 AM  

Cultural appropriation..... Isn't the act of blacks and other non-whites going to western universities founded on the basis of Greek and Roman philosophy a massive example of cultural appropriation????

Stop the cultural appropriation. NOW!

Blogger Chris Mallory January 30, 2018 10:34 AM  

Timmy3 wrote:The only issue is where Stan Lee will show up for his cameo.

He will make a quip from the stew pot.



This movie will have a big opening and die to nothing the 2nd weekend after all the cell phone videos of the monkeyshines going on in and around the theaters scare normal whites away.

Mexicans hate blacks, so I can't see a big Hispanic turn out. The Chinese probably won't even allow the movie to be imported.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 30, 2018 10:41 AM  

Apparently black men work in Wakanda. It isn't just a society of black men drinking and rutting (half of the time with each other) while well-muscled women manage the Yam harvest.
How they can derive self-esteem from a fantasy that is the abject opposite of reality is puzzling. Then again 85 I.Q.s are nothing to underestimate.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 10:44 AM  

> Unless there is more than one character named White Tiger, in which case the one I'm referring to is certainly much more prominent.

Ah, I see the problem. As I said, I'm not communicating well today. Diamond never officially had the title of White Tiger, though I believe it was used unofficially by fans. He was the white member of the "Sons of the Tiger": http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Sons_of_the_Tiger_%28Earth-616%29

Thus the "White" Tiger.

Blogger tuberman January 30, 2018 10:45 AM  

Based on a comic that failed after how many issues...??

And, if Oprah fails, there is always their Super Hero. Flaying about, is this the first signs of a death rattle? Desperation? Leftist anxiety? Trotting out a screwy Super hero that attacks everything they stand for...because it's all in the Name?

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 30, 2018 10:48 AM  

Their inventors and black history month achievers are already fables. Maybe once the rest of them fade into legend the world might actually believe the super-negro nonsense that's pushed constantly.

Blogger Ingot9455 January 30, 2018 10:52 AM  

Why couldn't they just let it be 'decent'? I know, I know, SJW.

They pulled off the physical dynamism of Black Panther well in Civil War.

This one is supposed to have some decent chick-fights, so there's that. And they pass the John C. Wright test for why the amazonian warrior can do what she does.

Anonymous WOPR January 30, 2018 10:57 AM  

@71 They aren't going to make much money then. Minor character movies shouldn't cost that much. Add in promotional costs and that the studio only gets about 1/2 of the ticket price, it's a steep hill to climb. They probably have to have sales of $450 million before they start to make money. And that's only making money in the normal sense of the word, not the financial sense where you have opportunity costs and present value of money calculations.

They'll make it but it isn't going to be a big winner.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 30, 2018 10:58 AM  

They have become such a burden at this point. They benefit no one, not even each other.

Having traveled in both western and Southern Africa, the absurdity of this movie really angers me. In Malawi, thousands of kids die horrible deaths each year from rabies, due to the Malawian men not giving a damn and refusing to cull the thousands and thousands of stray dogs inhabiting the country.
Farmers in the Ivory Coast still have to be taught to plant their crops in rows.
Yet the arrogance and pride of the dindu is so massive you'd think this Wakanda nonsense was real.
This Chinese guy has the right of it. Turns out his criticisms of the dindus isn't any different from the alt-right's.
https://youtu.be/mtsa0MT2H4I

Anonymous kfg January 30, 2018 10:58 AM  

"I bet they don't even screen it in China."

And yet I bet the SJWs don't glow with pride at their own racial theories having been vindicated. Wat's wit dat?

Anonymous Mayonnaise January 30, 2018 10:59 AM  

I'll never go see Black Panther because at its heart the film is racist and implicitly anti-white -- just like the so-called "reviews."

Those of you who say, "Well, I'll go see it ..." are weak. If you won't stand against a manipulative movie and a converged movie studio, you're all talk and no action.

Don't be that idiot who hates the New York Times, but still buys a copy every day. Don't support this sh*t.

"But, I gotta go! It's a superhero movie!"

Pathetic.



Blogger tuberman January 30, 2018 11:04 AM  

"Then again 85 I.Q.s are nothing to underestimate."

American Blacks are not really Black anymore so 85 IQ with a fairly large number above 90 IQ, so capable of real modern jobs without false support. Africans are about one standard D below USA blacks and not even capable of holding down modern jobs, where they actually have to perform --- this is why Africa is doomed.

Somalia = 67 IQ mean. Lighter skinned "Blacks" are still held in higher esteem in USA by blacks, and when they are not, then what?

I watch a Paki, not black, but with an African level IQ (nice guy actually), being trained for a very low level job, and it took incredible patience by everyone to get him trained well enough to get by... and everyone was rooting for him. He was trained for eight days for a job that required one days training.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 30, 2018 11:08 AM  


Again, you don't understand how this works. The whole point is to replicate what white movies do. So, the black villain has to be a really cool villain who almost, but not quite, steals the movie from the hero. He will be noble, but misguided, with motives that are sympathetic.

Translation: he is a rival to the throne who wants to save Wakanda in an excessively ruthless manner that the hero has to stop.

That's my guess, anyhow.


The villain managed to invent the wheel, and the hero has to stop him from spreading the devil magic.

Blogger Rashadjin January 30, 2018 11:08 AM  

Smells like Girlbusters, indeed, at least from the critics.

I dunno about that, tho'. The trailer said 'overproduced, above average MCU movie', but that's just the trailer.

I think the SJWs are over-hyping it because they need a diversity product that doesn't suck. It's not just about how limited these movies will become if it bombs. They need something to distract from The Last Jedi and all their comics and everything else being bottom tier garbage before they slide into cultural oblivion completely.

The funny thing is, it might just work.

Because the facts of life are conservative, and everyone dreams of being an autocrat (monarch) when it comes to being the political head of anything, and because the MCU leads really did try with this movie, they may have made a solid movie that's compelling. And by compelling, I mean conservative because making it good meant it had to exist in a conservative frame.

The SJWs can't see that because identity politics is their everything. If the movie is good (tells a conservative story) then the SJWs might use it to push their garbage by making everyone believe it's actually a radical left message. And then we'll get actual radical left garbage for it.

So yes, may have to meme the hell out of this one to deny the SJWs their inadvertant bait and switch gambit.

And you guys are tempting me to try and finish what Black Pigeon started by seeing how Alt-Right this movie is.

Blogger Desdichado January 30, 2018 11:09 AM  

Somalia = 67 IQ mean. Lighter skinned "Blacks" are still held in higher esteem in USA by blacks, and when they are not, then what?

Equatorial Guinea is... what, 59? Insane. Imagine the average intelligence being equivalent to what we consider literally mentally retarded.

Anonymous 'setting January 30, 2018 11:10 AM  

Marvel's most political movie....because I want to watch superheroes wax on about leftist politics. I've watched most of the superhero movies in the theatre. I'm a superhero geek. I love Avengers, Iron Man 1, and X-Men 1, and Spider-Man 1 v.1 and #1 v.3. This is what we comic book geeks wanted....for decades. Someone to do it, and to take it seriously. Its a wonderful thing.

That said, I expect I'll just wait for Redbox for BP.

Its pretty much a given that something awesome will eventually be turned toward lefty politics or to 'dark and transgressiveness' and eventually be destroyed. I've known this for years. I hope we can get a few more really great movies out of this trend before it dies.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 30, 2018 11:18 AM  

Trump says something about a secure border and Black Panther one ups him...

Blogger Were-Puppy January 30, 2018 11:18 AM  

@84 YIH
Hopefully, about as bad as Star Warts did.
---

Star Warts? :P

Anonymous CitizenOutkast January 30, 2018 11:19 AM  

"vivid images of black excellence that so rarely ever make it to a giant Hollywood movie."

Or real life.

Funny thing is, I never minded Black Panther. I used to have a ton of my dad's comics from the 70's and earlier, and I collected them when I was young. Black Panther was fine, if a little boring. This movie, though? Nope. Anything SJW's promote I will avoid. Haven't seen Last Jedi yet and don't care too. Like my friend said about Force Awakens: "It's the only Star Wars movie ever I'll only have watched once." Same here.

Blogger tuberman January 30, 2018 11:22 AM  

95. WOPR

Movies like these are not supposed to make money from the audience, as they are propaganda, created to get cucks and leftist Black plantation slaves to watch again and again to get a percent of the money back. Most of the money for such propaganda comes from various money laundering Globalist/Leftist sources, which are slowly drying up. Just another Mockingbird project.

Blogger DonReynolds January 30, 2018 11:30 AM  

As a movie fanatic, I have learned the convenient rule of thumb....If the critics love it and it is heavily promoted, it is probably a lousy movie. Advertisement is expensive and they would not spend those bongo bucks unless they knew they needed to. The best movies in my collection were sleepers, with hokey titles, that hardly anyone bothered to watch.

What makes the audience particularly tough this year is the Negro Fatigue, which is near epidemic right now. We got a little preview with Leslie Jones and the new Ghostbusters movie. Angry militant Negroes are not selling well these days.

Anonymous Lara Mycroft January 30, 2018 11:30 AM  

@103 'setting

"That said, I expect I'll just wait for Redbox for BP."

So ... you'll still pay and support it, but just later rather than sooner.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 30, 2018 11:30 AM  

The left doesn't have an issue with nationalism and secure borders for non-white countries. They know that immigration and multiculturalism don't work and that's exactly why they've been weaponized against the West.

Not an Alt-Right movie, guys.

Blogger tuberman January 30, 2018 11:32 AM  

110. Noah B The Savage Gardener

"Not an Alt-Right movie, guys." We know, but great for Memes.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 11:33 AM  

> So ... you'll still pay and support it, but just later rather than sooner.

I'm sure that $1.50 he gives to Redbox will make Disney's fortune.

Blogger Thot January 30, 2018 11:39 AM  

Nothing about this movie shows "representation" for American dindus. The main character had a father who was present in his life, he has an education, he SEEMS to respect others, he speaks well(not Ebonics), his people appear to have an IQ over 85, he is a ruler of a successful country. I mean nothing in this could be relatable to American nogs other than he has black skin. Suspended disbelief can only go so far.

Anonymous Lara Mycroft January 30, 2018 11:42 AM  

"I'm sure that $1.50 he gives to Redbox will make Disney's fortune."

Irrelevant. Those $1.50's add up. That's why Redbox exists.

Support is support, whether it's a little or a lot. Simple concept.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. January 30, 2018 11:43 AM  

Are there sail foams in Wakanda?

Blogger pyrrhus January 30, 2018 11:52 AM  

O/T Good VDH column summarizing the criminality of those expecting HRC to win...http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455885/expected-clinton-victory-explains-federal-employee-wrongdoing

Anonymous SigOther January 30, 2018 11:57 AM  

"February;" You mean Black History Month?

Blogger Geir Balderson January 30, 2018 11:59 AM  

They sound like a gaggle of 70-something women at high tea! Oh, you must try the cucumber sammies! They are so wonderful! Best I EVER had!!

Anonymous BoomerConNate January 30, 2018 12:07 PM  

I plan to pay for this movie because I also pay for Star Wars, the NFL and Disney. Why? Because it is who I am.

Blogger Stilicho January 30, 2018 12:14 PM  

What's the name of the movie again? Is it "When Shaft Wuz Kang"??

Anonymous Mayonnaise January 30, 2018 12:18 PM  

@119 BoomerConNate

"I plan to pay for this movie because I also pay for Star Wars, the NFL and Disney. Why? Because it is who I am."

Right. A weak, unprincipled cuck.

Or did I just touch the poop ...?

Blogger Timmy3 January 30, 2018 12:20 PM  

What do you have against stew pots?

You should stop making bad predictions. It’s a Marvel movie. It’ll make money. Hispanics will watch it. The Chinese will import it.

Blogger SciVo January 30, 2018 12:22 PM  

widlast wrote:What amuses me is that the Wakandans don't give 2 hoots for the rest of Africa and are thoroughly nationalist and isolationist.

It would be hilarious if some country, Rwanda or the Congo or Zimbabwe or anywhere were to rename itself Wakanda. Because no matter what you call a Crapper or a John or a toilet, it's still a euphemism treadmill.

Anonymous p-dawg January 30, 2018 12:25 PM  

@Lara Mycroft: Paying Redbox to watch a movie supports movie producers like buying a secondhand book from a used bookstore supports book publishers or buying a used car from a used car dealer supports car manufacturers.

Blogger Salden January 30, 2018 12:25 PM  

"You should stop making bad predictions. It’s a Marvel movie. It’ll make money. Hispanics will watch it. The Chinese will import it."

Shills out in force today.

Blogger Chris Lutz January 30, 2018 12:26 PM  

@114 Disney only gets the purchase price of the disks that Red Box pays. That's why there is the rental purchase price of the disks.

Blogger WATYF January 30, 2018 12:27 PM  

I think the SJWs are over-hyping it because they need a diversity product that doesn't suck.

This is my hope as well. I liked BP in Civil War and have been looking forward to this movie since then.

I've watched every MCU movie (most multiple times) and the SJW influence isn't nearly as prevalent or blatant as some people make it out to be. Hell, Avengers had some lines that were downright conservative and Civil War had a "healthy distrust of government" message baked right into it.

For now, I'm going to assume that this is yet another good (hopefully great) MCU movie and that the only reason these people are clamoring as much as they are is because they're projecting their politics onto the movie (not the other way around) and because they finally got a blockbuster movie with a minority cast that doesn't suck ass.

That said, I always get a chuckle when I think about the concept of Wakanda. As someone who has lived in Africa and has family there (and Africans in my family), I find the idea of a super-secret, uber-advanced civilization in the depths of Africa to be more than a little amusing.

WATYF

Anonymous 'setting January 30, 2018 12:28 PM  

James, thanks.

Lara, I'm not that much of a purist. I doubt you are either when it comes to your things. I am a superhero geek (own Champions 4th Ed. etc.) so this is my thing. The benefit I receive from watching it greatly exceeds the benefit I get from hurting Hollywood.

You may be a Purist Paladin. It's possible. If so, good for you. I, OTOH, am a Thing from the Primeval Dark, so we're different.

Anonymous TheTruthIsAlwaysUnacceptable January 30, 2018 12:29 PM  

Rashadjin wrote:I think the SJWs are over-hyping it because they need a diversity product that doesn't suck.
Interesting, a movie that is called a diversity product because it is about a black country with a primarily black cast, but that country and its culture denies diversity at its very root, arguing instead for identity and nationalism with very restrictive immigration and cultural assimilation.

Hmmm... sounds very non diverse to me as well as singularly driven by prescriptive racial requirements...Meme heaven and Alt-right to the core.

Anonymous Pale male January 30, 2018 12:34 PM  

yoghi.llama wrote:Black Pigeon gave a list of reasons why it might be an unintentended Alt Right classic.
An ultra-high tech Black society, hidden away in the middle of Africa.

Which bases its prosperity on something very close to "magic dirt".

That they're hoarding and refusing to share with the hordes of poor outside its tightly-sealed borders.

Does this smell like the Black mentality about Europeans to you?  Their victimization narratives come through everywhere.

Anonymous Precious January 30, 2018 12:42 PM  

I am siding with the minority here on this movie. I think it might turn out to be a good movie.

I think Vox is spot on about the plot and Black Pidgeon is correct about what will be the underlying Alt-Right themes. The SJWs just don't recognize it because they are delusional to think this movie portrays what an African nation would look like today if whites never visited the continent.

They are also blind to how whites will meme this by pointing out if nationalism and closed borders are good for black people, they are good for white people too. They just assume that white people watching this blaxploitation movie won't identify with this theme because black characters will be expressing it. That is their projection because black people watching a typical movie can't identify with the white characters.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 30, 2018 12:49 PM  

Promoting nationalism on the grounds that it's good for black people is weak, unless you're black. Might as well meme that SJWs are the real racists while you're at it.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot January 30, 2018 12:52 PM  

"Now, perhaps the movie is genuinely good ..."

What if I don't care and I simply want to watch this particular world burn?

Blogger Desdichado January 30, 2018 12:57 PM  

Lara Mycroft wrote:Irrelevant. Those $1.50's add up. That's why Redbox exists.

Support is support, whether it's a little or a lot. Simple concept.

Don't be the purity police. He can watch the movie if he wants to.

Blogger SmockMan January 30, 2018 12:58 PM  

Black Panther is Alt-Right Meme

I asked rich johnston his thoughts on this picture. So far no response.

Anonymous BBGKB January 30, 2018 12:58 PM  

Equatorial Guinea is... what, 59? Insane. Imagine the average intelligence being equivalent to what we consider literally mentally retarded.

FL has problems of people trying to sell black market gas

‘Moving fire bombs’: Dangerous illegal rigs drive Miami’s black market for gas

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article194490029.html

OT smells like
The White Supremacy Yoga Industrial Complex

NOT SATIRE

“antiracist white Jewish organizer, facilitator, and healer”...authors claim that Americans who practice yoga are contributing to white supremacy & promoting the “yoga industrial complex”

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/white-supremacy-yoga-industrial-complex/

Anonymous Thomas Sowell Fan January 30, 2018 1:04 PM  

Maybe this film will prove Democrats Are The Real Racists once and for all. For the record, it seems only Alt-Retards are trashing it.

Anonymous Precious January 30, 2018 1:07 PM  

@132 Promoting nationalism on the grounds it's good for blacks is weak, unless you're black.

15) Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species...possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 30, 2018 1:11 PM  

Marvel. Disney. Race politics. "Marvel's most political movie."

Count me out. So out.

Blogger Koanic January 30, 2018 1:13 PM  

I'm looking forward to it as an exploration of what a high-tech land-dwelling civilization might look like that skipped the wheel.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 1:23 PM  

> Irrelevant. Those $1.50's add up. That's why Redbox exists.

Redbox makes money on those, yes. The movie makers, not so much so.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 30, 2018 1:30 PM  

Seems to me a few of the folks trying to convince folks here the movie will be somehow alt right are trying to dupe folks into seeing a movie that is just leftist crap.

Seems to me the only way to help things along is to just not buy the leftist agenda movies and SJW crap like star wars and this.

Same is true with the stupid bowl.

Go do some dry fire practice, which helps develop proficiency with arms rather than watch this dreck.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 30, 2018 1:31 PM  

Exactly, Precious. You and your people should decide how you want to live.
Extend the same courtesy to blacks, insofar as possible.

If nationalism is what you want because it's good for you and your people there's no legitimate reason you should be afraid to say so. Advancing your cause under the false pretense of helping others is unpersuasive in the long run.

Anonymous Kevin January 30, 2018 1:34 PM  

Not surprised if it is awesome. The commercial for Black Panther and Spider-Man (civil war) showed they were the best things going.

I think Wakanda is great. Their immigration policy is so strict you need the Kings permission. They are super advanced because of Alien technology that they horde completely. A good model for the USA. Make Wakanda great again.

Blogger Rashadjin January 30, 2018 1:38 PM  

@Pale male

It does smell a bit like the Africa Is Exploited world view, but the movie screws it all up but making Wakanda black and in Africa.

Africans (from what I'm told): The world refuses to share the secret of prosperity with us. And they're exploiting us. Which is why we have problems. Because zero-sum economics.

White Left: Africa is poor and backwards because we exploit them and zero-sum economics.

Black Panther: Wakanda is awesome because it marshaled special resources and is hyper protectionist to the point where it shares nothing with nobody.

The "doesn't share secret of prosperity" from the African view of things has slipped into the movie, yes, but it's given a distinctly African flavor for the whys behind doing so. If anything, it'll weaken the impression that the West is unreasonable for hording the secret to prosperity in suggestible minds.

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 2:03 PM  

@145-That's too subtle a message, I think. What most people will carry away with them is: "All African nations could've been like this if not for Whitey."

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 2:08 PM  

@132-Yes, black nationalism--all non-white for that matter--has been thinkable ideology by Consensus Liberalism for the longest time. Hasn't made the shadow of a dent on white consciousness.

Doesn't help that allowable colored nationalism usually ends up being of the fascist/communist variety.

Blogger lowell houser January 30, 2018 2:08 PM  

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that it will be entertaining with a now overly familiar formula and if Spiderman:Homecoming and Ragnarok are any indications, will have every dramatic moment ruined by a stupid joke.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 30, 2018 2:09 PM  

@tublecane

Exactly. Forgetting or just unaware of the economic disintegration of Zimbabwe and continuing decline of South Africa, they'll conclude that taking whitey's stuff and forcing whites out of Africa is the gateway to prosperity.

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 2:11 PM  

@127-"I've watched every MCU movie (most multiple times)"

Might I suggest you can no longer see the forest for the trees?

Anonymous Anonymous January 30, 2018 2:18 PM  

" they'll conclude that taking whitey's stuff and forcing whites out of Africa is the gateway to prosperity"

They've tried (and are still trying) that in a few countries.
Hasn't worked out so well. Exporting/killing off white farmers and business men just leaves empty farms and empty businesses. None of the black populace have any idea HOW TO DO ANYTHING other than screw, eat, and kill.

Blogger Rashadjin January 30, 2018 2:19 PM  

@tublecane

Only if they're White Left who filter all problems as being solved by removing Whitey. That assumption needs to be fixed in place beforehand for it to work your way.

Everyone else will get the impression as presented, which is how I read it (assuming the movie doesn't waste time saying an evil Whitey told Wakanda to keep it all to themselves, which would be dumb and create problems for the Wakanda is awesome and wise and spiritual narrative).

And subtle isn't the problem you think it is. Sometimes it's the too subtle that's the best subtle, because the conscious ignores it and then the subconscious is able to read the raw, unfiltered version.

Anonymous Bob M January 30, 2018 2:19 PM  

@28:

"They did a pretty good job of enslaving them a couple of centuries ago too."

Idiot.

Blogger WATYF January 30, 2018 2:22 PM  

if Spiderman:Homecoming and Ragnarok are any indications, will have every dramatic moment ruined by a stupid joke.

Tell me about it. This is the most annoying part of modern cinema.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-QhdzQo66o

WATYF

Anonymous Zionfist January 30, 2018 2:38 PM  

The key idea is that blacks are more advanced than whites, which if often true. This is only offensive to the Alt-white reichtards who feel that white skin is somehow a magical key to greatness. These Nazi redneck retards also forget Jews pretty much lead the world in technology. I would guess that Black Panther is Jewish.

Blogger Thucydides January 30, 2018 2:38 PM  

Saw the trailer the other day. Besides the insane premise, over the top use of CGI and wooden acting on display, it really does look like the best thing since the introduction of the talkies

What could possibly go wrong?

Blogger WATYF January 30, 2018 2:38 PM  

Might I suggest you can no longer see the forest for the trees?

You can suggest it, but it wouldn't make it true. I'm a sucker for comic book movies, no doubt, but I don't go in unawares and I keep an objective viewpoint while watching.

The difference here is that I actually watch these movies instead of hearing about them secondhand from someone who is intensely predisposed to sniffing out anything that might be slightly biased in some way. I've seen movie franchises go too far with the SJW storytelling (i.e. Star Wars), and I have no qualms about pointing those out, even if I had an even more vested interest in them being good (again, Star Wars).

The fact is, the MCU is still telling classic hero stories: weak or misguided protagonist undergoes life-changing event, struggles with newfound power and temptations, ultimately realizes the need for self-sacrifice and becomes the selfless hero. And they're doing it in an entertaining way that (mostly) leaves out the politics.

If only they could tone down their over-reliance on ill-timed gags.

WATYF

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 30, 2018 2:38 PM  

The memes have already started.

Blogger TrueBag PipeRock January 30, 2018 2:53 PM  

Trailer for "Ant-Man and Wasp" came out today. Ant-Man was fun and underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_rTIAOohas

Blogger WATYF January 30, 2018 2:57 PM  

Ant-Man was fun and underrated.

Agreed. I didn't really expect anything from that one and it ended up being one of my favorites.

WATYF

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 3:01 PM  

Ant-Man was fun when he was actually ant-sized. The rest of the movie was worthless.

It was basically Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, except more cartoonish.

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 3:07 PM  

@152-"Only if they're White Left"

But regular people are taught by the White Left all their lives, and are preprogrammed to think like them. Which doesn't mean they never Notice anything, but odds are against it. Black Panther would either have to pound your message home, with bright red arrows pointing it out for people, or we'd just have to get lucky.

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 3:13 PM  

@152-I get your point about subtlety, but what is the indefinable message people's subconscious will receive? That Wakanda is awesome and it's a restrictive, all-black society. And that means what, practically speaking? That they'll subconsciously transfer that over to nationalism of any kind? I find it far more likely that they'll take away the vague sense that "this is how it could be *for Africans*" and won't spend half a second thinking about white ethno-states.

As I said before, Black Nationalism has been a thing in our culture for a long time. People put it in a separate box from other types of nationalism. Which, unlike African ones, are apt to be subconsciously associated with Nazis.

Blogger Stephen January 30, 2018 3:15 PM  

Why would anyone financially support converged studios? If you just want to satisfy your curiosity there is always PBay.

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 3:17 PM  

@155-"which is often true"

It's never true, except in the area of low culture. Meaning dance music, slang, peacock fashion, stand-up comedy, certain types of athleticism, etc.

Blogger Eric Steiger January 30, 2018 3:17 PM  

The only words I find remotely interesting are "war rhinos". If I didn't already know this is going to be a "white people are evil...and inferior...WE WUZ KANGZ!" propaganda film, war rhinos might have been enough of a teaser to get me to give it a shot. Alas...

Blogger Rashadjin January 30, 2018 3:35 PM  

@tublecane

With some more thought and to be fair, I rolled 'exploitation' into 'hyper protectionist' a bit too easily. Wakanda is the African dream, assuming the secret to prosperity landed in their back yard.

But still, the idea that Wakanda is a rejection of exploitation requires the prior assumptions of the African or White Left to be hard fixed in place and an active filter.

And still, that's not a problem for a Right rebranding because embracing it means a rejection of free trade. We want to stop the exploitation (from free trade) for our reasons as much as they want to stop the exploitation (from trade) for theirs.

Win-win.

Blogger Rashadjin January 30, 2018 3:50 PM  

And now that I saw your responses, tublecane, yah, they're trying very hard to stick the exploitation filter into everyone's heads, and yah, they've succeeded in chaining white enthno-states to Nazi Germany.

Even so, a lot of the US isn't indoctrinated enough to readily make the 'this is Africa without exploitation' connection. Particularly the red pilled side of Gen Zyklon.

An additional twist is that Black Panther riding a long history of Black Nationalism is intrinsically anti-globalist and given a pass. Having the MCU promote nationalism for any segment of the US population means it'll only take a slight nudge for it to become useful anti-globalist rhetoric in general. Which is a good step one for making nationalism okay for whites in US pop culture too.

Anonymous BBGKB January 30, 2018 3:59 PM  

On the subject of business failures:

Clothing company SCOTTeVEST CEO tells Marcus Lemonis "Hold my beer"

Clothing Company Founder Finds Out it's Not a Great Idea to Call His Fox Viewing Customers 'Idiots'

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2018/01/26/clothing-company-founder-finds-out-its-not-a-great-idea-to-call-his-fox-viewing-n2440312

Anonymous GodEmperorMemes January 30, 2018 4:05 PM  

"Marvel's most political movie"

When you don't know the difference between "political" and "fantasy fiction".

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 4:06 PM  

@166-I believe the "prior assumptions" are hard-fixed, and won't require an active filter. They would if this were the type of mistake Hollywood occasionally makes, which is to put wrongthink into the mouths of captivating characters, like Archie Bunker, Bill the Butcher, or the American Nazi played by Rufus Sewell in the recent adaptation of Man in the High Castle. Such characters are dangers to the Narrative.

However, once again I want to stress that black nationalism has been treated as an exception for a long time, and never once has it red-pilled any white people of which I'm aware. Maybe all we've needed is a comic book action movie with a protectionist ethno-state to drive the point home, but I doubt it.

Normal people don't need to actively resist the message of a racially and culturally unified nation being successful, because it's black. They've already been taught that blacks are special.

Notice how Muhammad Ali's black racist ideology, for instance, never made the hint of an impression on goodtthinking white audiences. Granted, he was speaking at a time when open white racism still existed in mainstream culture, and at least some of the honkies listening could have said, "Fine, if that's what he wants. We want that, too." But nobody thinks that anymore. They think of Ali instead as an anti-racist. His black nationalism doesn't count, because blacks are special in that regard.

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 4:10 PM  

@167-"particularly the red-pilled side of Gen Zyklon"

If they're already red-pilled, they don't need Black Panther to do it for them. I can imagine the movie making it infinitesimally easier for them to so dead the message, but mostly not.

Because, again, black people special.

Blogger Rashadjin January 30, 2018 4:26 PM  

@tublecane

But white people are a special sort of sick and tired of black people being special these days. The exception is falling apart around us because the exception is being blasted out in ugly and absurd ways all around us. The question becomes: Has Black Panther arrived at the right time and place to backfire on the White Left spectacularly?

Only way to know is to try. And it only has to work on the squishy left and annoyed center. Alt-Right is inevitable, remember?

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 4:40 PM  

@172-"white people are a special sort of sick and tired black people being special these days"

Yes, "negro fatigue." The natural response to Black Panther of people sick of black specialness would be to reject the movie altogether, not adopt its message for their own purposes.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 30, 2018 5:24 PM  

Anyone interested in being red pilled by a black movie should watch the last few minutes of The Great Debaters. Try to find all of the fallacies, while keeping in mind that this is apparently what Denzel Washington considered a powerful rebuttal rather than a resounding confirmation of stereotypes.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 30, 2018 5:49 PM  

Marvel hasn't made a bad movie yet, and I include Ant-Man in that statement.

So Black Panther is probably a good movie. Fine. Whateves. I still don't feel like seeing it anyway.

But then I'm not in the desired demographic mix so all good so far as Disney/Marvel are concerned.

The real problem for the SJWs is that they want this thing to do as well as the Iron Man and Captain America movies.

And it just won't.

I'm not even sure it's going to do as well as Doctor Strange. This is probably going to end up in Ant-Man territory. Turns a profit but doesn't make enough to justify a sequel.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 30, 2018 6:01 PM  

The rebuttal denialists make is always, "70 I.Q. is mentally retarded, yet Africans can be bus drivers, doctors, teachers, etc., so the I.Q. stats are wrong."
The reality is that they can't do these things. Very few things are scarier than riding in a bus driven by a Bantu driver along narrow, mountain roads.

Anonymous Marvin Boggs January 30, 2018 6:30 PM  

One of the said that the action scenes were awful. The reason I watch Marvel movies is mostly for the action scenes. I'm not looking for character development or representation or identity. It's a freakin' comic book movie. If i want character development and deep insight and amazing plot, I'll go read some of the classic.

Not hopeful.

Anonymous WaterBoy January 30, 2018 6:46 PM  

Wakanda: Look how successful a country can be when it's able to keep out all the riff-raff.

Wakanda For Wankandans!

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2018 7:20 PM  

> But nobody thinks that anymore. They think of Ali instead as an anti-racist.

Nobody thinks of Ali anymore. He's ancient history to most people.

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2018 7:37 PM  

Ali is just a f'rinstance. He was one of the most famous people ever at one point, and his open black racial pride and particularism had zero impact on white opinion. Except possibly to turn some of them off.

Blogger Salden January 30, 2018 8:02 PM  

ITT: Cucks.

Blogger NoneOfTheAbove January 30, 2018 8:30 PM  

I suspect that people all over the world think this of Europe and the US. They just cannot explain the Civilizational success any other way.

Pale male wrote:yoghi.llama wrote:Black Pigeon gave a list of reasons why it might be an unintentended Alt Right classic.

An ultra-high tech Black society, hidden away in the middle of Africa.

Which bases its prosperity on something very close to "magic dirt".

That they're hoarding and refusing to share with the hordes of poor outside its tightly-sealed borders.

Does this smell like the Black mentality about Europeans to you?  Their victimization narratives come through everywhere.

Blogger So Meh January 30, 2018 9:13 PM  

Should be a good movie. Will it make Wonder Woman money? I don't think so. The big money is made by repeat viewing (Titanic ...teenage girls, Avatar...everyone, The Force Awakens...everyone). Will be interesting to see how it does in the Chinese market. Didnt see any SJW Asians in trailer(s). I'll wait to see it when it comes out on video and enjoy my own popcorn and snacks.

Anonymous CoolHand January 30, 2018 9:47 PM  

'setting wrote:I am a superhero geek (own Champions 4th Ed. etc.) so this is my thing. The benefit I receive from watching it greatly exceeds the benefit I get from hurting Hollywood.

Or you could, you know, embrace the power of AND, by learning about this newfangled technology called "Bit Torrent".

Then you can scratch your itch AND deny revenue to Hollyweird.

None of these fuckers follow the rules of the game anymore, I fail to see why anyone else should either, especially when dealing with said fuckers.

Just sayin'...

Blogger Daniel January 31, 2018 6:36 AM  

Your movies are belong to us?

Blogger James Dixon January 31, 2018 7:59 PM  

> Or you could, you know, embrace the power of AND, by learning about this newfangled technology called "Bit Torrent".

Or for that matter any of dozens of movie streaming sites around the net.

Anonymous Pale male January 31, 2018 9:12 PM  

@80 HAHAHAHAHA!

Wynn Lloyd wrote:How they can derive self-esteem from a fantasy that is the abject opposite of reality is puzzling.
Their own public lives are largely or total fictions (they go into histrionics when any unwanted reality is revealed); why should they take Black Panther differently?  They already live in delusion.

Blogger Unknown February 02, 2018 1:58 PM  

What's black history month?

Blogger Unknown February 02, 2018 7:49 PM  

Has anyone at all considered the dichotomy of acting white in school and believing that Wakanda exists?

Blogger Pat Kittle February 11, 2018 2:12 PM  

(((Hollywood Whites'))) latest anti-White hit piece.

Great fantasy life for people who, left to their own devices, never managed to invent the wheel.

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