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Friday, January 19, 2018

Stealing their wind

To the Point articulates how Trump systematically undermines the power and influence of the media:
President Trump’s systematic thrashing of the leftist media is the example that illustrates the theory.  See his literal thrashing in the YouTube above.

Conservatives complained about the media for a long time. Aristotle’s dialectic approach, against people uninterested in truth. Net effect? Very low. Sad!

So let’s apply what we’ve learned.

Why do the media have power? Because they have social status with ordinary people. Are we still hearing about Watergate — decades later? The Pentagon Papers? How many movies seem to exist just to show journalists as heroes?

Or let’s take a different tack: What’s the attraction of such a low-paying profession? Status given by the profession, and status from rubbing shoulders with high-status people. Status by acting as a vector for status signals, which is what every women’s magazine is.

Ditto publications like WIRED, which is just Cosmo for geeks.

The media offers people clues about what things are high status within the areas they cover. People notice, and act accordingly. Yet most conservatives still don’t understand Trump’s response:

 If I lower the media’s status, I will wreck their power.

So The Donald says that the media has “some of the most dishonest people” he has ever seen. Not an arm’s length complaint. A direct and personal status attack, rooted in truth.

Trump also acts in ways that cause journalists to fulfill his pre-suasion labeling. He makes “outrageous” statements, which many people outside the Beltway Bubble agree with. Those statements receive over-the-top media attacks, which make his enemies look ridiculous.

Then events swiftly show that Trump had a point. Trump rubs it in, using the media’s own “Fake News” term against them and pouncing on every sloppy and dishonest mistake. As a final topper, Trump makes the dishonest media a focus during every massive rally. Which strengthens his out-grouping effect among participants and viewers.

He uses ridicule and lèse majesté, not bended knee and appeals — note that subordinating word — to logical argument.

The result?

American belief in the credibility of their news media is now at about 32 percent. That’s the lowest ever polled, and an 8 percent drop from the lowest point of the 2008-2015 period. The media has lost audience, and a lot of power.
This is an extremely effective technique. And like all rhetoric, the more based in truth it is, the more powerful it is. The point about status-signaling is important too, because that is how SJWs decide who gets to determine the Narrative. It is also one more reason why giving them what they demand will never satisfy them, because the struggle for status continues regardless.

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Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 19, 2018 2:48 AM  

Is there anything more hilarious than journalists assailing Trump's criticism of the media as an attack on the First Amendment?

Rhetorical question. Feeding journos to alligators is funnier.

Blogger tublecane January 19, 2018 3:22 AM  

Bodyslam the MSM?

Hollywood takes its sweet time producing movies and t.v. shows, and I do not anticipate the onslaught of Trump-inspired material. But they're still making Heroic Journalist movies (e.g., the Post). It would be fun to see a miniseries about a Cheeto-headed crypto-fascist whose goons start by throwing journalists on the ground and end by shipping them in cattle cars to death camps.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 19, 2018 3:32 AM  

Wait until someone leaks the memo. Some of it, unless redacted will show the media knew off the spying and were complicit in pushing fake news for political purposes.

It passed out of committee on a straight party line vote. It has to be ugly for the entire dem outfit.

Blogger The Observer January 19, 2018 3:34 AM  

Always remember that the journalist is the modern version of the street corner town crier and should be treated similarly.

Blogger Miguel January 19, 2018 3:46 AM  

Here in western Europe, people (the elites) think that Trump is dumb.

OpenID leukosfash January 19, 2018 3:50 AM  

It bears repeating: "Freedom of the press" has nothing to do with the media.

Blogger The Observer January 19, 2018 3:51 AM  

@4:

Here in western Europe, people (the elites) think that Trump is dumb.

The progressive bugman chattering classes are the same everywhere. You could take a Taiwanese chattering bugman, an American chattering bugman and a European chattering bugman and they'd be almost the same.

Truly rootless cosmopolitan globalists.

Blogger Jack Morrow January 19, 2018 4:26 AM  

If you think Mr. Trump gets unfair press in the U.S., look at U.K. or Australian papers--they're just as bad, if not worse.

It didn't hurt Spiro Agnew's popularity with the voters when he was V.P. to attack the media--the media were so upset by it that when he was on the cover of Time in 1969, there were complaints from some subscribers that the subscription sticker had been placed over Mr. Agnew's mouth, instead of at the side as usual.

Blogger James Dixon January 19, 2018 4:33 AM  

Trump knows you don't win a fight by letting the enemy set the terms of the battle, or by ceding ground to them before you start. He fights to win, not maintain the status quo.

OpenID markstoval January 19, 2018 4:33 AM  

Love Trump or hate him, he has run a clinic on how to fight the media and other powerful enemies.

Everyone should study his methods, and thank God that most of our enemies will not be smart enough to do so. If the media stopped helping Trump by the over-the-top reactions; that would not be winning.

When I read Vox's two books on SJWs, I thought to myself that I hope the SJWs were not reading them and better understanding us via the material there. Then I realized that there was no way they could change their spots anyway so it did not matter.

Vox has mentioned most of the strategies Trump uses here in this blog over the years. They work. I wonder if The Donald has read any of those posts over time. I wonder if he sneaks a read here even now.

Blogger Sherwood family January 19, 2018 5:46 AM  

James Dixon: this is the crucial lesson that "conservatives" have failed to learn time and time again. "muh principles" should not dictate tactics. Win first, wring your hands about it later.

Blogger Troushers January 19, 2018 6:11 AM  

I have come to the conclusion that it isn't that conservatives "fail to learn". It is that they are mentally unable to learn, and it is this property that is selected for. Shapiro, for all his grandstanding, is a minor and irrelevant voice - try to think of a campaign or event where Shapiro made a lasting difference. Yet he enjoys a relatively high profile - you may have seen the ridiculously fawning bio produced by ABC. Shapiro is selected FOR by liberal mainstream sources *because* he is ineffectual. The same process occurs for other figures from the Right.

Blogger Lazarus January 19, 2018 6:20 AM  

I don't know if anyone noticed, but Wednesday's fake news awards were co-ordinated with a twitter meme storm by the folks at the CBTS reddit group. Twitter had to try to defuse it, but they kept jumping to other hashtags.

Blogger Lazarus January 19, 2018 6:23 AM  

@11
I have come to the conclusion that it isn't that conservatives "fail to learn". It is that they are mentally unable to learn

That would mean "conservatism" is a completely rhetorically derived position, not dialectically derived, would it not?

Anonymous ConservativeInUtah January 19, 2018 6:34 AM  

Like advertising, rhetoric is a dishonest way to persuade based on emotion, half-truths and lies by omission. No honest conservative would use rhetoric! We are not used car salesmen! All of my conservative arguments are based on logic and reason, the only true way to spread conservative ideas. Drumph is no conservative, he’s a huckster who manipulates the stupids.

Blogger Silly but True January 19, 2018 6:43 AM  

I've been told that in the name of justice, we must converge the structures of the oppressors to use them to Resist and destroy their power.

Ok. I've been convinced.

OpenID widlast January 19, 2018 6:49 AM  

"Win first, wring your hands about it later."

Only the loser complains about the fight not being fair.

Anonymous Rocklea January 19, 2018 6:50 AM  

Dialectic is literally a subset of rhetoric. What's more, it is in the minority and only appeals to a minority. Stories beat facts every time and true stoies resonate with the majority despite and because of MPAI. Why do you think it's a cultural war and not a factual one? The postmodernists know their craft. Which is why conservatism and civic nationalism have no future and here we come full circle, as rhetoric, as powerful as it is, is still subsumed in Reality.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 19, 2018 6:52 AM  

Interesting. I had jotted down some similar thoughts yesterday.

Chalk it up to meme theory, I guess.

The biggest mistake the Right makes is when it tries to prove it's position with logic, facts and reason. Those things are mighty fine indeed and have never persuaded anyone of anything. Status trumps reason every time.

For most of human history if you were a person of status then you had done something important. Really important. Literally important. Actually life and death important. Kings had status. Popes had status. Military Commanders had status. Down the list you might find doctors but certainly no lawyers. Learned men held minor status. Actors...did not. Even the best known were pretty much at the bottom of the list.

Then around 1920 that all changed. Actors acquired fame as basically a marketing stunt by the infant film industry. The thing is fame and status had always up gone hand in hand. Consequently, when someone became famous just for being a pretty face the status went along for the ride. People would be "honored to meet," Charlie Chaplin for instance. A talented vaudeville comic but he had never done anything actually important in his life to merit the status he held.

The Left didn't argue with logic it acquired the new means of doling out status.


Anonymous b January 19, 2018 7:02 AM  

The dems/media have taken the usual position that everything Trump says or does is Hitler. Trump is leveraging their attack by waving the red flag and saying things that all of us know is true, e.g. Haiti=shithole, or Americans should come first ahead of DACA.

When they deny Haiti is a shithole, they look ridiculous and stupid and dishonest, and with the DACA stuff, traitorous.

Anonymous ZhukovG January 19, 2018 7:03 AM  

Sleight of hand; a series of gestures, often exaggerated, which conceal the vital action.

Ad Victoriam, Ave Imperator Trump!

Anonymous Slen January 19, 2018 7:05 AM  

The ridicule thing makes a lot of sense. If the Devil himself "cannot endure to be mocked," what chance does the MSM have?

Anonymous Athor Pel January 19, 2018 7:06 AM  

"13. Blogger Lazarus January 19, 2018 6:23 AM
@11
I have come to the conclusion that it isn't that conservatives "fail to learn". It is that they are mentally unable to learn

That would mean "conservatism" is a completely rhetorically derived position, not dialectically derived, would it not?
"



As was described on this very blog the foundational documents of modern conservatism have no ideological base. There is no there there.

Anonymous Rocklea January 19, 2018 7:19 AM  

"For most of human history if you were a person of status then you had done something important. Really important. Literally important. Actually life and death important. Kings had status. Popes had status. Military Commanders had status. Down the list you might find doctors but certainly no lawyers. Learned men held minor status. Actors...did not. Even the best known were pretty much at the bottom of the list.

Then around 1920 that all changed. Actors acquired fame as basically a marketing stunt by the infant film industry. The thing is fame and status had always up gone hand in hand. Consequently, when someone became famous just for being a pretty face the status went along for the ride. People would be "honored to meet," Charlie Chaplin for instance. A talented vaudeville comic but he had never done anything actually important in his life to merit the status he held."

And herein lies the crux of the matter. We are biologically wired to emulate the heroes, the successful, what Aldous Huxley termed "splendid individuals", we've been sold a facsimile, a cheap ripfoff, a lie. Acting, the theatre, has always been a way to transmit the stories that serve our genes. Allowing other stories that are not our own, indeed antithetical to our own, combined with modern technology, is a death knell to the current incarnation of Western Civilisation. Trump, being a splendid individual, is able to jam the signal, his actions and rhetoric speak directly to our genes. He gives hope that this monstrous/marvelous technology can be turned to the nations benefit.

Blogger tuberman January 19, 2018 7:22 AM  

Last night 7-8 CNBC reality show employees tried to sneak a fake bomb into Newark Airport. They had fake press passes.

Questions: Was the bomb really fake? Were those CNBC press passes, and how did they get them? Was this to be some kind of False Flag? Were these Clowns, actual Clowns (CIA)?

Fake Drama, created by Fake News, using Fake Bomb?

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III January 19, 2018 7:58 AM  

Slightly off-topic, but the whole #ReleasetheMemo thing is looking like it is going to be pretty great.

"I have read the memo," he tweeted. "The sickening reality has set in. I no longer hold out hope there is an innocent explanation for the information the public has seen. I have long said it is worse than Watergate. It was #neverTrump & #alwaysHillary. #releasethememo." (Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa)

“4 pages you knew as soon as you read them, you think about “is this happening in America or is this the KGB, that’s how alarming it is” Rep Scott Perry (R-PA)

“It’s troubling. It is shocking, part of me wishes that I didn’t read it because I don’t want to believe that those kinds of things could be happening in this country that I call home and love so much.” said Mark Meadows (R-NC)

Blogger James Dixon January 19, 2018 8:07 AM  

> If the Devil himself "cannot endure to be mocked," what chance does the MSM have?

They are his servants, are they not?

Anonymous Avalanche January 19, 2018 8:34 AM  

@9 'I wonder if The Donald has read any of those posts over time. I wonder if he sneaks a read here even now."

(Do you mean, you wonder if General Kelly LETS him read here?!)

Anonymous Jon Bromfield January 19, 2018 8:38 AM  

"Shapiro is selected FOR by liberal mainstream sources *because* he is ineffectual."

As are David Brook and Rich Lowry. House Negros.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore January 19, 2018 8:42 AM  

@24 This stuff is gonna YUUUUGE! And there will be more stuff:

1) The investigation into Uranium 1
2) The sabotage of Project Cassandra
3) Hillary emails

None of those items have relation to the Memo stuff other than the fact that the 702 FISA appears to be an attempt to fudge a Hillary win in order to keep them away from scrutiny.

And then there is the human trafficking stuff. Q alludes to this. On more than a few occasions, he calls the bad actors satan worshipers.

And then there is MS-13 and Seth Rich.

This scale of this corruption and perversion is mind boggling.

Anonymous Hrw-500 January 19, 2018 8:47 AM  

Speaking of medias, American Thinker posted a blog post mentionning this op-ed then the NY Times allowed.

And seems then that wicked witch of the West, George Soros posted some new tweets recently.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira January 19, 2018 8:53 AM  

Know thy enemy and know thyself or something. Media either can't or refuses to know Trump.

Blogger Gordon Scott January 19, 2018 8:59 AM  

@Miguel: "Here in western Europe, people (the elites) think that Trump is dumb."

These would be the same elites that think it's a good idea to let Greenpeace and other Soros-funded orgs dump millions of subhuman immvaders on their beaches?

Western Europe hasn't had a leader with balls since Thatcher left. Things are a little better in central Europe.

Blogger Desdichado January 19, 2018 9:01 AM  

Then around 1920 that all changed. Actors acquired fame as basically a marketing stunt by the infant film industry. The thing is fame and status had always up gone hand in hand. Consequently, when someone became famous just for being a pretty face the status went along for the ride. People would be "honored to meet," Charlie Chaplin for instance. A talented vaudeville comic but he had never done anything actually important in his life to merit the status he held.

The Left didn't argue with logic it acquired the new means of doling out status.


It wasn't new. People like Oscar Wilde and Lord Byron had it down decades earlier. What changed was that the environment become so r-selected that we could afford to bestow status on people who did nothing more than tickle our fancy, rather than accomplish anything meaningful. And then we became so r-selected that actually accomplishing anything started to become gauche.

But people who were basically PR jobs, famous for being famous, and all hype have always been with us. It's just that only rarely in the throes of extreme r-selection does it become a mass movement, like Hollywood has become.

Blogger Daniel Bendele January 19, 2018 9:07 AM  

OT: But this article is pure gold. https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/african-americans-moving-africa-180116092736345.html

Best line so far: "You might not have electricity, but you won't get killed by the police either."

Blogger Desdichado January 19, 2018 9:13 AM  

@33: Potent stuff. For those who think that we've inherited the problem of the African American group and will never be able to do anything about it except come to some accommodation; well, apparently they can go back too.

Anonymous View January 19, 2018 9:16 AM  

Trump was right when he said the news media needs more competition. At times Fox seems like a decent alternative other times i find rhem disappointing and underwhelming and feel like they are making a fool out of me putting up a half ass fight they have no intention of seeing thru just for i guess ratings or to create the impression that something is being done when it really isnt thus they force me to keep coming back to tbe alternative media to try to do the job they are just too weak and incompetent to do.

Blogger Akulkis January 19, 2018 9:17 AM  

SJW's are Borderline Personality Disordered people. As such, they will take no steps to find out how they can do better, because if they could do better, that means they can improve, and if they can be improved, that means they are flawed, and less than perfect. And *NO* BPD will ever admit to being less than perfect, not even to themselves.

The only way to teach an SJW that they gave screwed up something is to rub their nose in it, repeatedly, and publicly, until they beg for mercy, they condition of such mercy being that he/she publicly acknowledge that they screwed up, how they screwed up, and what they will CHANGE, and how they will CHANGE so that it doesn't happen again.

Of course, Hell freezes over more frequently than a BPD will admit to screwing up.

Blogger Akulkis January 19, 2018 9:31 AM  

One America Network.

OAN is carried on U-Verse. Don't know what else.

They make FOX news look like a bunch if dirty, smelly hippies.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 19, 2018 9:33 AM  

Wait until someone leaks the memo. Some of it, unless redacted will show the media knew off the spying and were complicit in pushing fake news for political purposes.

It passed out of committee on a straight party line vote. It has to be ugly for the entire dem outfit.

Anonymous Ryan G January 19, 2018 9:38 AM  

@17 - There was a period of time when being an actor was considered barely more than one rung above prostitution in terms of social status.

Anonymous View January 19, 2018 9:41 AM  

But in Fox,s defense perhaps its case of the leftists and their allies just outnumbering the right and Fox just does what it can do. I cant ask them to do any more than i am willing to do (verbal warfare from a safe comfortable perch) Sometimes they indicate as much.

Anonymous BBGKB January 19, 2018 9:50 AM  

Is there anything more hilarious than journalists assailing Trump's criticism of the media as an attack on the First Amendment?

Anderson Cooper declared the Caribbean nation “among the richest countries I’ve ever been to.”

"""In DC my salary only lets me afford 2 little nigga boys a week, but in Haiti I can live like a queen!"""
http://latenightfeud.com/video/anderson-cooper-haiti-is-one-of-the-richest-countries-ive-ever-been-to-conan-on-tbs/

I have come to the conclusion that it isn't that conservatives "fail to learn". It is that they are mentally unable to learn

They can learn just the wrong things. How to line pockets, that it's easier to be defeated while collecting cash, go to the mat for hopeless causes but roll over for shekels. An aid to Vicente Fox said US conservatives wanted Mexicans because they accept corruption.

Anonymous Gecko January 19, 2018 9:57 AM  

It is also one more reason why giving them what they demand will never satisfy them, because the struggle for status continues regardless.
Not only that, but it's counterproductive in that it actually elevates their status.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 19, 2018 10:02 AM  

No one especially conservatives wants to be hated, and they essentially have no will to power, none, truth will out or some bullshit like that animates them to breath and walk and that is about it.

Of course will to power in itself is scary I have to admit that, and they even refuse to rebuke the left for their excesses in the will to power, so essentially conservatism as we know of it is anti-life a sin itself.

Anonymous Truth January 19, 2018 10:03 AM  

And the prob with the alt media is too much foul language too many insincere troublemakers and too much cowardly caucasian vermin corrupting it.

Anonymous MarriedWorker January 19, 2018 10:06 AM  

"For most of human history if you were a person of status then you had done something important. Really important. Literally important. Actually life and death important. Kings had status. Popes had status. Military Commanders had status."

I was going to point out Lisztomania as an exception, but I guess it's an exception that proves the rule: "A veritable insanity, one unheard of in the annals of furore!" "The solution of this question belongs to the domain of pathology rather than that of aesthetics. A physician, whose speciality is female diseases, and whom I asked to explain the magic our Liszt exerted upon the public, smiled in the strangest manner, and at the same time said all sorts of things about magnetism, galvanism, electricity, of the contagion of the close hall filled with countless wax lights and several hundred perfumed and perspiring human beings, of historical epilepsy, of the phenomenon of tickling, of musical cantherides, and other scabrous things..."

Imagine, women going wild over a musician: a phenomenon so unheard of that doctors are desperately scouring electromagnetism texts trying to figure out an explanation...

Blogger Akulkis January 19, 2018 10:09 AM  

@Ryan G,

Throughout much of history, women weren't allowed to be in "respectable" acting companies because so many women actors are and always have been whores.

Of course, with men playing female roles... This attracted make deviants.

The ancient Greeks prohibited actors from voting. Good call on their part.

Blogger James January 19, 2018 10:11 AM  

I'm one of those who hates the "media," but I have to confess to having a severe crush on Maria Bartiromo.

I dreamed last night that I was on the Maria Bartiromo show, "Mornings With Maria," to discuss personal finances and budgeting.

So in my dream I say to some guy asking about how to improve his finances, "Well, instead of lighting your cigars with $100 dollar bills, you could light them with $1 bills, for a savings of $99 a pop."

And Maria laughed out loud at that. I'm rather proud of my self, making Maria laugh, even if it's only in my dreams.

Anyway, I was wondering what others on the VP blog think of Maria Bartiromo.

Blogger DonReynolds January 19, 2018 10:16 AM  

In another example in the news, Pope Francis visiting Peru has declared that the sex abuse victims in that country are lying and slandering the reputations of church officials.

No, I am not making it up.

Blogger SouthRon January 19, 2018 10:31 AM  

Reminds me of an old scene from Friends, Be Your Own Wind Keeper, where their all bitching about men stealing their wind and taking their power because phallic shaped pastries are grabbing them by the pussy.

Blogger Robert What? January 19, 2018 10:53 AM  

Actually now the media can't decide if Trump is Hitler or Stalin. Maybe both.

Blogger SciVo January 19, 2018 10:57 AM  

ZhukovG wrote:Sleight of hand; a series of gestures, often exaggerated, which conceal the vital action.

I maintain that the story about Trump sending pictures of his hands to the guy that criticized them is not a sign that he's thin-skinned, but that as a young Chad he must've gotten one of those stage magic things aimed at middle-schoolers, and internalized the lessons. "Look at my hands," literally. And now it's working on tens of millions. The left is obsessed with the size of his hands, imagining that their words affect him, oblivious to falling for a trite old distraction.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 19, 2018 11:08 AM  

Actually now the media can't decide if Trump is Hitler or Stalin.

What? The media would never elevate Trump all the way up to the status of Stalin! Carlos Slim's blog still reveres Walter Duranty for his services, you know.

Trump's Hitler. Bush was Hitler. The older Bush was Hitler. Reagan was Hitler. It's Hitlers all the way down.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 19, 2018 11:13 AM  

It would be fun to see a miniseries about a Cheeto-headed crypto-fascist whose goons start by throwing journalists on the ground and end by shipping them in cattle cars to death camps.

The Grayman and I have been busy tuning up the wood-chippers, and the nearly residents of the Happy Hollow Hog Farm are drooling at the thought of so much tasty journo-meat. The old adage still holds: Journalist + Rope + Tree. Some assembly required.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 19, 2018 11:18 AM  

@42 Mr.MantraMan

"Will to Power" or just any concepts of Power, when under discussion, point to the massive feminization of most spaces. Very few Women can ever handle much power without losing control of it and going wildly about. With mixed spaces being standard, now, it creates a situation where Men can't teach other Men how to wield things properly.

Thus, we've ended up in a situation where people either seek Power until it destroys them or flees Power, leaving the first group in complete control. It's a brilliant game plan, but it's required hundreds of years of work. It's not "cultural degradation"; it's the intentional corruption of the functioning aspects of the culture.

You can see the divide over Weaponry. Most Leftists fear guns because they'd be driven to use them on other people. They lack that much control over themselves, which is part of why they seek to be the people giving orders rather than pulling the trigger. They leave that part to the sociopaths in their circle.

Anonymous BBGKB January 19, 2018 11:21 AM  

It would be fun to see a miniseries about a Cheeto-headed crypto-fascist whose goons start by throwing journalists on the ground

Marvel's new Runaways ""Show""

2 dikes-1 a witch
male niggagenius leader
the lone White man's power is privilege, he uses tech his dad left around the house

Blogger Nate73 January 19, 2018 11:24 AM  

Looking Glass: I've been trying to find reasons for awhile for "Women Ruin Everything" which is a running theme on alphagame. Your comment recalls Freydís the sister of Leif Erickson who mercilessly slaughtered other women *and* children because over battle spoils. So a problem with mixed environments that involve power hierarchies is that women can't responsibly wield that power as well as men?

Blogger pyrrhus January 19, 2018 11:30 AM  

I think it's unfair to tar the entire journalism profession with being shallow, sycophantic, leftist liars....After all, there was one honest journalist...H.L.Mencken

Blogger DonReynolds January 19, 2018 11:36 AM  

@53 Looking Glass

I do not know the origins of the "Will to Power" and "Truth to Power" slogans, but I admit only to seeing these in some Ebonics context. So it is still a puzzle.

Wearing a white funny wig and a three-cornered dark hat does not make anyone into George Washington, nor is it possible to assume his authority or reputation...what you might call his Power.

Snatching Power is not the same thing as snatching a purse. It is not a Crown that the low-life can put on their own head and be assured respect and authority. Seizing Power clearly is not something they teach in school and the agitated ethnic groups have no idea how to achieve it in American society. But they seem to be convinced that Power will drop into their own lap should they ever bother to destroy the existing Power. It never works that way.

If we beat the King 99 times in battle, He will still be the King. Against the insurgents, He only needs to win once.

Blogger Joe Katzman January 19, 2018 11:39 AM  

My entire article is visible at Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller, its original location:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/13/how-to-trump-the-media-avoid-conservatives-biggest-mistake/

Happy to discuss any part of it here. See also:

"Do you really think it’s a coincidence that leftism and its “Diversity Pokemon Points” amount to a full caste system?
Do you have any doubt about The left’s hatred for those who will not stay in their assigned status?
Have you noticed their quickness to turn on their own allies? Fail to follow the latest fad, and your status is demoted.
Perhaps you’ve noticed that endlessly callous virtue signaling is the identifying badge of our modern try-hard Striver Class.
Maybe that’s because American public education is now a 20-year Milgram Experiment. Where the meta-message inside political correctness is to override your own judgement, in favor of deliberately-shifting judgements from people with higher status.
These aren’t accidents. They’re clues.
Leftism isn’t a policy machine or an economic machine. Its economic results would tell you that much in a hurry. But the machine keeps running. Which means it must work for something. The correct question is: in what way does it work?"

....so if you like my analysis, share it around! It will help.

The echoes of via SJWs Always Lie is not an accident; thanks, Vox. Also: you read Jack Wheeler's To The Point? I suppose nothing should surprise me any more.

Anonymous View January 19, 2018 11:41 AM  

Re 10:03 but i refuse to give up on the alt media..for now

Blogger justthinkin January 19, 2018 11:45 AM  

I don't want. Trump Cheerleading channel, either. Just some honest reporting.

Anonymous User January 19, 2018 11:51 AM  

The ancient Romans had a very nice vocabulary for talking about the kinds of influence a man might wield. Dignitas, auctoritas, and potestas or more precisely the underlying realities they reference are not very well understood by most contemporary persons. That's probably because while we have obvious etymological descendants they are semantically denuded.

Anonymous View January 19, 2018 11:51 AM  

May the good sincere segment of alt media find a way to productively work with other allies out there

Blogger pyrrhus January 19, 2018 11:55 AM  

Recent Q posts...https://8ch.net//greatawakening/res/1.html#7

Anonymous Looking Glass January 19, 2018 11:59 AM  

@55 Nate73

For several days per month, every Adult Woman is attempting to find a Man to f*** and have his child, while for another chunk of the month, they're highly uncomfortable. On the basic biological level, they lack interior self-control because their body has interests of its own and it will override all reason.

Further, Women are naturally solipsistic because its the only way they can survive. If a Woman actually really understood the physical power difference between her and ever male age 6 and above, she'd live in pure terror and never leave home.

The two systems, taken together, explain why Women have very minimal interior self-control. They need exterior structure under which to operate, which they can actually do with great effect. (There's a reason Pakistan, of all places, has had a female Prime Minister. They were the most competent runners of the Empire their father built.) Removed from exterior structure, Women go some form of feral. In a big city, they'll slut it up really hard and then rely on their cultured instincts to get them to work each day. In less civilized places, it gets a lot worse.

Women aren't Men, and some of the basic aspects of self-control are just assumed to be present in Women. They aren't, especially when a Woman gets emotional. All reality must bend to a Woman's emotional state, as she deems it, which is why the not bending to a Woman's emotions is the biggest "alpha" tell.


@57 DonReynolds

Westerners control their displays of Power because the negative side of using it is so severe. Those without wisdom are doomed to think they can wield the One Ring, when reality doesn't work that way. Plus, people don't understand the Power of the concept of Property Rights.

Anonymous Mad January 19, 2018 12:48 PM  

Bkg u and those like destroy a good website may the judgement of God come upon u severlyband quickly before u destroy anything else

Blogger dienw January 19, 2018 12:50 PM  

@ Whitey Whiteman III
Here is an excellent analysis of the released #OverthrowTrumpPapers

Money quote: I desire to point out that this is not Capitol Hill Blue or Q Anon propaganda, but is a literal presentation of evidence which points directly to operatives within Justice, meaning Deputy Attorney General Rob Rosenstein, Deputy Andrew McCabe, Agent Lisa Page, Agent Peter Strzok and the fired Director of FBI, James Comey, in having orchestrated the corruption of FISA warrants based on the bogus Pissgate Dossier, with the expressed purpose, intention and political operation to overthrow the results of the 2016 AD political election of Donald Trump by the American People, and to in this coup, remove Donald Trump as President.
This is NUCLEAR POLITICAL TREASON.

Blogger tublecane January 19, 2018 12:50 PM  

@16-"The postmodernists know their craft"

Most of them will never have any influence beyond very small, select circles. They know the craft of convincing those people, I suppose,which is why they get their disgusting objects built and gawked at. But they don't know how to convince regular people, or people with taste.

It so happens the cultural heights are commanded by degenerates. Otherwise, no one would give postmodernists the time of day.* They're in a special, "privileged" position, and would be brought low if they weren't coddled.

Of course, on this very site there was a debate not long ago where some people used the term "postmodernism" so expansively that it might as well have included all humor. And granted, there is precedent for using term rather loosely. If you extend it to such things as Bladerunner on the one hand and all internet memes on the other, then postmodernism has an influence on the public. But that's going rather too far, in my opinion.

Blogger tublecane January 19, 2018 12:57 PM  

@65-As someone once said, certain people Always Project. It would be no kind of surprise to learn they invented stories about Trump undermining the democratic process simply because they were busy undermining the democratic process.

Anonymous Random #57 January 19, 2018 1:09 PM  

@11 Troushers:

"I have come to the conclusion that it isn't that conservatives "fail to learn". It is that they are mentally unable to learn, and it is this property that is selected for."

It isn't so much that this property is selected for, it is that the property of effectiveness is selected against, denied platforms, and destroyed if possible. The remaining few like Shapiro who are allowed a platform are, while not entirely harmless to the left, overall ineffective.

Anonymous Blastmaster January 19, 2018 1:19 PM  

I think you mean (((the elites)))

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants January 19, 2018 1:21 PM  

Literally MAYBE a dozen people that work at Fox News are truly right wing, lol. They aren't "risking anything," 99% of the ppl you see on tv, or work in management or the higher ups, are either center left or left. The few "Republicans," besides Hannity, Carlson & Ingraham (The morning Fox & Friends are a mixed bag) that are there & have any power, are #NeverTrumpers. Even the pro-Trumpers aren't as solid off-screen as much as you think, either. IOW, he has, at most, 10-20% support inside that building, power-wise, on a good day. Fox is a leftist news outlet. They advocate taking the dildo, just a bit slower & not quite as hard.

Anonymous Nike Missile January 19, 2018 1:23 PM  

Decent post from Ace of Spades: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/373421.php

"Short version: The right attempts political persuasion. The left, on the other hand, attempts social persuasion -- basically seizing the commanding heights of culture-making institutions and then deciding that espousing some political claims (being pro-gay-marriage) increase social status and that espousing other political claims (being against gay marriage) decrease social status and, indeed, make one a social pariah, fit for ostracism, mass mockery, and internal exile.

The left's method works much better than the right's. It always has and it always will. Because most people don't care about politics all that much -- but nearly everyone (except for the crankiest of contrarians, including some of the current assembled company) cares about their social status.

Having higher social status gets you invites to the Cocktail Party Circuit, which is a real thing, defined broadly (and metaphorically) enough. It makes you datable, it makes you "clubbable," as the old term went.

It can get you promoted at work, particularly if the sort of job you do is a bit vague as far as definite, tangible outputs and thus advancement depends more on how upper management feels about you.

While the left wing continues winning arguments by not even having arguments at all, instead simply demonizing those who espouse any contrary position, the #SmartSet (citation required) of the establishment right continues believing, apparently earnestly and definitely ridiculously, that if they just out argue their political competitors, they'll change minds...

Trump's manner of engaging with The Blob of left-wing virtue-signalling and status-conferring is to attempt to degrade the left wing cultural Borg of its own social status, thereby reducing its ability to set tastes, serve as "gatekeepers" of what the right-minded people agree are proper attitudes and beliefs, and demonize dissenters.

This is often ugly -- but that's how the sausage gets made."

Anonymous Blastmaster January 19, 2018 1:34 PM  

Bartiroma is largely red pill. Understanding how markets work and reporting with credibility makes it difficult to believe lies.

Anonymous tublecane January 19, 2018 1:57 PM  

@71-That is more or less a way of saying that the left commands the cultural heights, which we already know. If your side is in that position, then fashionable opinion is with you and status-seekers and the status-conscious will be selected for on your side.

Only very few people ever consciously decide to storm the cultural heights, and far fewer could possibly succeed. The left didn't really do it deliberately. The ones with apparent foresight were apt to be wackos and degenerates (Cultural Marxists, the homos behind After the Ball) who only look like diabolical geniuses after the fact. Not to say the Long March or the New Deal didn't happen, but they had long-range historical forces behind them, as well.

It's only a short time, historically speaking, that the left as we know has been in any kind of power. Even if you stretch things out to encompass the entire post-Enlightenment era. To hear them talk about it, they're still the oppressed minority outsiders. Which has some truth to it, because they're only playing on the surface of civilization. The foundations were created by Old Orders. They're merely chipping away at them.

My point being the right has much, much longer experience at the social persuasion game. Just not the right as we know it now.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2018 2:27 PM  

Mad wrote:Bkg u and those like destroy a good website may the judgement of God come upon u severlyband quickly before u destroy anything else
Now THERE's an informed opinion.

Blogger bob kek mando January 19, 2018 2:34 PM  

47. DonReynolds January 19, 2018 10:16 AM
No, I am not making it up.



how is this different from the standard Catholic response of the last 50 years?

they did the same thing with Marciel Maciel, who not only got 'married', to multiple women, while leading the Legion of Christ, he also subsequently raped his own children.

the RCC typically only 'admits' the guilt of a particular priest only after a conviction or after such a massive hue and cry has arisen that it can no longer be ignored.


51. A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 19, 2018 11:08 AM
What? The media would never elevate Trump all the way up to the status of Stalin!


look up the Senator Jeff Flake ( C ) speech.

because Flake is a Low Status cuckservative, he's gotten off message and is actually comparing Trump to someone who really did murder a lot of people.

if he could read Social Cues better, he wouldn't have made this mistake.

Blogger Al January 19, 2018 2:49 PM  

@37

Except OANN (One America News Network) is also soaked in cuckery. Just not as much as Fox. For example, OANN celebrates MLK.

Blogger DonReynolds January 19, 2018 2:58 PM  

Al wrote:@37

Except OANN (One America News Network) is also soaked in cuckery. Just not as much as Fox. For example, OANN celebrates MLK.


FoxNews has some Leftist personalities that most certainly celebrate MLK in a rather angry militant way....Shep Smith, Bob Beckle, Juan Williams, Geraldo Rivera,....by far NOT the only ones.

Blogger tublecane January 19, 2018 3:39 PM  

@dienw-If the memo is so damaging, why don't they just leak it? That's what everyone else does.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 19, 2018 4:22 PM  

@46 James

Anyway, I was wondering what others on the VP blog think of Maria Bartiromo.
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Somewhere a merchant is scheming how to produce an MB Special Digisexual SexBot that has the ability to laugh at any jokes.

Blogger James Dixon January 19, 2018 7:18 PM  

> @dienw-If the memo is so damaging, why don't they just leak it?

Who would they leak it to? They don't have the MSM in their pockets the way the Dems do.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 19, 2018 8:04 PM  

James Dixon wrote:Who would they leak it to?
4-chan
If you want the most effective use made of a document, let the channers at it. And wikileaks as well, for verification. And the Post, after making it clear that it's going out on twitter in 4 hours and they'd better do something with it. Sure they'll downplay and discredit it, but they'll do that anyway. As long as they mention it, is boosts the signal.

Blogger James Dixon January 19, 2018 9:06 PM  

Word on Gab was the Wall Street Journal (at least, possibly others) already has the memo.

Anonymous tublecane January 20, 2018 2:13 AM  

@84-We have the internet now. The MSM can try as hard as they like to ignore it, but it'll be Out There.

The MSM couldn't even ignore Wikipedia's shortly before the presidential election, and that's the main thing--along with the Comey Show--they most blame for would-be Queen Hillary's ignominy. Granted, they mostly covered the part of interest to their people (the conspiracy against Sanders). But they covered it.

Their burying powers aren't what they once were.

Blogger Ceerilan January 21, 2018 3:53 PM  

The Msm has been working hard to discredit itself for decades. For all that time, we've pounded them with logic. That's had very little effect. No wonder they are arrogant today, thinking we are stupid. It's time to switch strategies until heads roll or companies topple.

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