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Monday, January 22, 2018

The instruction of Jordan Peterson


In which Dr. Jordan Peterson remembers that SJWs always lie and that white-knighting for an SJW is a very bad, self-destructive idea.

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Blogger JACIII January 22, 2018 11:51 AM  

Must they always learn the hard way?

It's not like this is new ground.

Anonymous johnc January 22, 2018 12:00 PM  

People seem unwilling to accept the amount of intentional lying that goes on out there.

Despite all of Mike Cernovich's alt-lite / civic nationalist / anti-alt-right / anti-racist posturing, his event still got attacked by Antifa and labeled in all the press as an alt-right event. All over Twitter it was called a white supremacist event, etc.

We're not talking about people who show any kind of deference to the truth.

Anonymous Just another commenter January 22, 2018 12:02 PM  

I wonder what Dr. Peterson would say about r/K selection theory by Anonymous Conservative, and the SJW always... books by our esteemed host?

Anonymous Holmwood January 22, 2018 12:11 PM  

I give Peterson credit, he realized pretty quickly exactly what he'd done, even describing it in the same kind of deprecating terms (white knighting).

For any who haven't seen it, the original Channel 4 (UK) interview is well worth watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54&t=23s

(Peterson's maintenance of 'frame' as some call it in the interview is pretty impressive.)

The kindest possible interpretation of Cathy Newman's behavior is that she was suffering from cognitive dissonance (her inner feminist was drowning out her reason).

My own interpretation was that she was simply acting as a prosecutor at a witch-trial, attempting constantly to trip up a hostile witness.

A more cynical interpretation would be simply that she was a dimwit trying the usual smear tactics of an SJW.

Blogger Zaklog the Great January 22, 2018 12:12 PM  

I like the guy a lot, but I am disappointed at his response to people promoting white identity and white pride. I suppose I should give him time. It takes a while once you're in the fight to realize what the enemy is really about.

Blogger Edwin January 22, 2018 12:15 PM  

I felt sort of let down when Dr. Peterson made that call. Of course he still needs to learn that those people are not playing fair and will lie and cheat to win. I guess he learned his lesson, hopefully for good.

Blogger Twisted Root January 22, 2018 12:18 PM  

There is now no excuse for this. SJWs are utterly predictable. Peterson's tweet was always going to be taken as a validation of practically non-existent online targeted abuse.

I must admit however, that the disingenuous nature of high profile SJWs is astounding. Anyone who has been in the public eye knows full well that there are a disturbing number of random loons amongst the general public. This was a well known phenomenon even pre-internet days which manifested chiefly in the form of letters written in block capitals and green ink.

Forestalling this tactic must be part of a normal person's armoury.

Blogger Dirtnapninja January 22, 2018 12:18 PM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:I like the guy a lot, but I am disappointed at his response to people promoting white identity and white pride. I suppose I should give him time. It takes a while once you're in the fight to realize what the enemy is really about.

Perfect is the enemy of the good. He isnt one of us. But he does good work, and should be supported.

Blogger Lazarus January 22, 2018 12:23 PM  

The kindest possible interpretation of Cathy Newman's behavior is that she was suffering from cognitive dissonance (her inner feminist was drowning out her reason).

Scott Adam's did an interesting take on the interview. He said that Peterson made Newman hallucinate 12 times during the interview. The cog-dis process you just described actually makes people hallucinate.

Blogger FUBARwest January 22, 2018 12:25 PM  

Does JP's position of individual responsibility being the salvation of the current paradigm conflict with the positions of the alt right? And if so how deep does the conflict run?

Blogger Thot January 22, 2018 12:26 PM  

Dr Peterson needs to be careful while in the UK, he could be arrested for speaking truth.

Anonymous A British Friend January 22, 2018 12:29 PM  

Can someone get copies of SJWAL and SJWADD into his hands - I mean physically put them into his hands? He needs to read them before he goes any further.

Blogger Rez Zircon January 22, 2018 12:34 PM  

JP makes a point of being scrupulously fair. Which means sometimes he gets to learn the hard way, because the other side lies and fights dirty. But he doesn't repeat his mistakes.

Blogger Zaklog the Great January 22, 2018 12:40 PM  

@8 Oh, believe me, I get that. That's why, for instance, I'm frustrated with how much flack John C. Wright takes in the comments here. Peterson is an ally. He is not perfect, but he is an ally, and he hasn't turned his fire on us, so until he does that, I'm with him.

Blogger Nate73 January 22, 2018 12:42 PM  

How many of these people like Molyneux and Jordan Peterson have read SJWAL and are actively applying it to their public careers?

Blogger Anno Ruse January 22, 2018 12:51 PM  

"Scott Adam's did an interesting take on the interview. He said that Peterson made Newman hallucinate 12 times during the interview."

Scott "I did my Dilbert comic in 5 minutes so I have time to spare for my 5th Periscope today" Adams had a fresh take on PERSUASION? You don't say! I dunno, guy. I was okay when people who didn't get the obvious were just called stupid instead of being accused of "hallucinations".

Blogger Solaire Of Astora January 22, 2018 12:52 PM  

Peterson has mentioned discovering things about the SJW psyche that were in SJW Always Lie. I forget precisely what but I remember how strikingly similar it was. I figure he's finding this all out independently, but it's interesting that a clinical psychologist is coming to the same conclusions about the mental workings of SJWs. It didn't need validation but now it's just that much harder to dismiss it.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 22, 2018 12:53 PM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:@8 Oh, believe me, I get that. That's why, for instance, I'm frustrated with how much flack John C. Wright takes in the comments here. Peterson is an ally. He is not perfect, but he is an ally, and he hasn't turned his fire on us, so until he does that, I'm with him.

Not only that, but he is an extremely useful and effective ally. He made a mistake in the aftermath, but how many other allies do we have that can go into the lion's den like he did and beclown the media? Cathy Newman likely had a full team of assistants perform research and craft questions to try and throw Peterson off his game. Peterson never lost his cool, stayed affable and danced circles around all of them. That is why they are so desperate to change the narrative about the interview.

Anonymous FP January 22, 2018 12:55 PM  

For a guy supposedly so smart... very sad. Hopefully he'll listen to the "warning bells" in his head next time.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora January 22, 2018 12:56 PM  

Don't dismiss the rhetorical value of calling it hallucination. Telling them they're hallucinating bothers them a lot more than calling them stupid does in my experience. If you say they're stupid they'll just posture as super smart and feel vindicated and it's much harder to escape the accusation that they're hallucinating.

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum January 22, 2018 1:02 PM  

Peterson crushed Newman like a bug in the original interview. This was all spite, and he walked right into her trap (and it's not like Anita Sarkeesian and others hadn't sung this song before).

Somebody should send the poor man a copy of SJWs Always Lie before he has to learn its entire contents from hard experience one lesson at a time.

Blogger Thucydides January 22, 2018 1:05 PM  

"The kindest possible interpretation of Cathy Newman's behavior is that she was suffering from cognitive dissonance (her inner feminist was drowning out her reason).

My own interpretation was that she was simply acting as a prosecutor at a witch-trial, attempting constantly to trip up a hostile witness.

A more cynical interpretation would be simply that she was a dimwit trying the usual smear tactics of an SJW."

Embrace the power of AND.

Anonymous Philalethes January 22, 2018 1:09 PM  

For any who haven't seen it, the original Channel 4 (UK) interview is well worth watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54&t=23s

(Peterson's maintenance of 'frame' as some call it in the interview is pretty impressive.)


Indeed. I saw this a couple days ago (don't remember where), and was very impressed at how Peterson handled it. Never let her get to him, no matter how how she ramped up the Crazy Female. I wouldn't have had the patience, by far.

Perhaps being a "clinical psychologist" — and apparently one who really understands something about human psychology — helps; I guess you might have to deal with a lot of people as out-and-out crazy as this interviewer. (The video was posted by Channel 4; I'm amazed they haven't taken it down, given how bad it makes them look. Nearly 3M views, over 55K comments — and at least the first 25 or so that I read were quite clear and intelligent.)

And Peterson is Canadian, too; apparently there is still a dollop of good sense hidden up there. I'd heard about him, of course, but never seen him in action before. Yes, he's not "Alt-Right" (I suppose I might not precisely qualify either, whatever the qualifications may be), but he's very good, and an excellent bridge for normies who're capable of rational thought. Note how many of the comments on the video say he changed their thinking — and their lives. More power to him!

Blogger tuberman January 22, 2018 1:12 PM  

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Blogger Tinidril January 22, 2018 1:14 PM  

There is a great comment on the video that points out that feminism seems to change from militant to damsel in distress whenever it's convenient. You see it all the time, and its especially noticeable in the MeToo movement as well.

Blogger tuberman January 22, 2018 1:15 PM  

Jordan Peterson is a slightly left of center academic, and the whole idea of him being Alt-Right is a joke, and a sign of the times. He is very slowly altering his stance, actually noticing he White-Knighted, and the results. The Globalist/Left has gone so far that it will brook no challenge, even with those that would have taken their side two decades ago.

It sometimes amazes me that Peterson even did an interview with Stefan. Does anyone believe he would ever do one with VD? He would have to go much further before that could happen, and even then he would bring in many false assumptions.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 22, 2018 1:20 PM  

Repeat the "man in the arena" quote from Roosevelt when you read this. No man is perfect, no one has a perfect record. Keep your criticism to a dull roar.

Blogger KBuff January 22, 2018 1:26 PM  

He would have saved himself some grief if he would have read either of the books or visited this blog periodically.

Anonymous Philalethes January 22, 2018 1:33 PM  

@26.  tuberman

Jordan Peterson is a slightly left of center academic….

Is there any other kind? (I mean, other than the majority who're far left of him.) In Canada? I too was once "slightly left of center". Just occurred to me: In my youth some ~55 years ago my ambition was to move to Sweden, where I hoped to find the home I hadn't had growing up. Certainly glad now I never did. Then a few years later I did move to Canada, in what I thought would be permanent exile from home, family and friends (my people have been here since the 1600s). It was then (a year in Montréal) I began to learn that I was in fact an American, and that meant something. So when it turned out I could come back, I was glad to do so. Happy I didn't stay there, either.

Considering the kind of intimidation Peterson must have to deal with every single day in his work and life, that he can keep going at all is practically a miracle. Cernovich, for instance, gets called a lot of names, etc., but by people who're mostly far away from him, while those close to him are supportive. Many (probably most) of the people Peterson must deal with personally every day are certainly not supportive, to say the least.

He is very slowly altering his stance, actually noticing he White-Knighted, and the results.

Indeed. Unlike so many here, he wasn't born knowing the Whole Truth; but he does seem to both be a truth seeker, and have enough intellectual integrity to keep learning. Like it or not, it's people like him who must be educated — and many more who're hardly educable at all.

Anonymous Patron January 22, 2018 1:41 PM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:I like the guy a lot, but I am disappointed at his response to people promoting white identity and white pride. I suppose I should give him time. It takes a while once you're in the fight to realize what the enemy is really about.

I'm with Dirtnapninja. Jordan B Peterson is what, in his 50s? Not exactly the right age for someone to radically rethink their views on race or identity politics etc either.

But even if he's simply wrong about that, it doesn't mean he's wrong about other stuff. I've found his Biblical lecture series to be quite impressive, and he's clearly doing good for thousands of young (mostly white male) people in need of more basic psychological help.

He *has* turned his fire on the Alt-Right though - although in fairness, I suspect he encounters the trolls & Stormpoopers more than this branch, so that's bound to colour his perceptions.

Similar thing with John C Wright - he takes pot shots at the Alt-Right, including on topics he's just *wrong* about (race realism, anyone?), but I still like & support him, because the stuff he gets right far outweighs the stuff he's wrong about.

Honestly, I'd say there's more of an issue if you find yourself agreeing uncritically with *any* mortal man.

= = =

KBuff wrote:He would have saved himself some grief if he would have read either of the books or visited this blog periodically.

Nothing new there ;) .

Blogger tuberman January 22, 2018 1:41 PM  

29. Philalethes

Don't worry, I've praised Jordan Peterson several times in the past, and this was my putting things in perspective, as I've have gone too far in praising him past tense, and needed to say the other side of the Truth.

Blogger Chris Lutz January 22, 2018 2:00 PM  

Newman's behavior is that of a cult member. Their worldview is so completely warped that they can't operate with contrary information. It's why they created trigger warnings. The interesting thing was watching Peterson not give in to her cult mantras.

Anonymous Anonymous January 22, 2018 2:03 PM  

Peterson is maintaining, on the record, the "reasonable academic" frame, in his "white-knighting" tweet and in this "I'm shocked, shocked" interview. I think he knows what he's doing and playing the media game accordingly. He's presenting a sympathetic, unaggressive figure to the normies.

Blogger Jeff Godley January 22, 2018 2:19 PM  

When Jordan Peterson made his tweet asking for the "threats" to stop, I replied to it with some equally solemn reproach of the "vicious internet trolls" threatening poor, poor Cathy Newman.

We both made the cardinal mistake of presuming these people are honest. Having read SJWAL and SJWADD, I should have known better. OF COURSE they were lying - that is their modus operandi and their raison d'etre. It's all they know.

Blogger Resident Moron™ January 22, 2018 2:21 PM  

He IS a sympathetic unaggressive figure. As a clinical psychologist that's both in his job description and a mandatory prerequisite.

Plus, he's Canadian.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants January 22, 2018 2:41 PM  

It's really not that deep. I think she's just stupid, mate.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 22, 2018 2:45 PM  

@25 Tinidril
There is a great comment on the video that points out that feminism seems to change from militant to damsel in distress whenever it's convenient

That's the "don't hit me, I'm a girl!" ploy. It has a name because it's so common.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 22, 2018 2:48 PM  

It could be that Jordan Peterson, Professor can see the handwriting on his office wall and is in the process of creating Jordan Peterson™, Public Figure. That's got a bit of a learning curve.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants January 22, 2018 2:58 PM  

I think he's a typical Individual Individualist Boomer who "doesn't see color," thinks "we're all part of the same race, the human race," who gets flipped out when someone says he has to label trannys with "non-binary" pronouns, but when asked about his belief in God, says he doesn't want to be "boxed in."
I think he's a hypocrite who loves his OWN free speech, but won't stand up for, or beside a fellow Canadian & their to have free speech, or even free association, (Faith Goldy).
I think he says common sense things that 30 yrs ago, (and especially 50), every professor except for the most hardened Marxist would say. I think this woman, and everyone else I've
seen him interact with, are either stupid, or mentally ill.
I think he gives a father figure starved Millennial generation someone to idolize & that, is the saddest part of all.
Now, go clean your room, take a shower, and go look for a job, Bucko.

(How do I add a link to my PayPal acct here?😁)

Blogger bob kek mando January 22, 2018 3:03 PM  

36. Zeroh Tollrants January 22, 2018 2:41 PM
It's really not that deep. I think she's just stupid, mate.



no, she's not. she's got a suite of tricks that normally accomplish her goals that didn't work on Peterson.

what you're watching in that Cathy Newman interview is a REAL TIME display of what Cassie Jaye ( Red Pill Diaries, in which a Feminist interviews a bunch of Men's Rights people ... and figures out they've got a point ) was describing in her TED talk.

http://2m2l2d2d.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-self-deception-of-feminist-mind.html

Blogger papabear January 22, 2018 3:19 PM  

Peterson is good in so far as he knows how to motivate men; don't know if he is effective in gamma conversion therapy. Motivating men to undertake a mission as a part of their calling is one part of the red pill.

Blogger Akulkis January 22, 2018 3:21 PM  

@16

"Scott "I did my Dilbert comic in 5 minutes so I have time to spare for my 5th Periscope today" Adams had a fresh take on PERSUASION? You don't say! I dunno, guy. I was okay when people who didn't get the obvious were just called stupid instead of being accused of "hallucinations"."


If you know what to look for -- studying and PRACTICING hypnosis, especially covert trance inductions -- then you know how to spot the signs of someone going into trance and hallucinating.

And no, hypnosis is not some magical thing -- it's just a skill, no different than learning how to throw a ball or ride a bicycle.

Anonymous markonius January 22, 2018 3:34 PM  

Peterson's a closet PoMo. I dislike Harris in equal measure, but I liked how he made him show his true colors during their interview. There was another fun bit, in one of his talk with that Jonathan Pageau chap, Pageau said how Peterson reminds him of Derrida (and he meant it as a compliment lol) and Peterson tried to worm himself out of that.

Anyway, don't place too much trust into him guys.

Blogger Akulkis January 22, 2018 3:52 PM  

@36

"It's really not that deep. I think she's just stupid, mate."

And how does that preclude her from ALSO playing the roles of court-of-public-opinion-prosecutress and feminist-muh-pay-equity-without-work-equity feces-spewer?

As someone above said, embrace the power of AND.

This is NOT an exclusive-or type of thing. It's not (A but neither B nor C), OR (B but neither A nor C) OR (C but neither A nor B).

A OR B OR C, allows 1, 2, or even all 3 conditions to be true... SIMULTANEOUSLY ... and still be true.

And that's exactly what we have in this case.

Seriously, just chill, dude.

It is not impossible for someone to be both stupid AND evil.

Blogger Eric Steiger January 22, 2018 3:54 PM  

@20 Bingo. It's probably because dismissing an opponent's mental health/faculties is a standard leftist tactic. It's an intercepting blow that both strikes at the core of the image they wish to signal (we're the smart, educated, enlightened ones!) and it takes away a favored attack since, once deployed against them, any attempt to flip it ends up looking like a schoolyard "I know you are, but what am I?" comeback.

Blogger qwsae10 January 22, 2018 4:41 PM  

closet PoMo? You go too far mark. JBP definitely hates Derrida. He is learning fast. I about fell out of my seat when he first started talking about kek an here when he admitted to white knighting.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums January 22, 2018 4:45 PM  

Jordan Peterson:
- caucasian
- father of two white kids
- white grandchildren on the way
- right-wing
- has been slandered with every epithet in the book
- has been harassed by SJW constantly
- has been targeted by the canadian government
- has been targeted by YouTube directly
- has been targeted by Google directly
- has had his career be put in jeopardy
- has had his reputation put in jeopardy
- has had his clinical practice put in jeopardy
- has been conned out of his time and money by having his events cancelled with no notification
- has fuck-you money

You can't fight biology and he's the kind of man who'll willingly sacrifice himself for his grandchildren, integrity included. Add to this the fact that each time he criticized the alt-right he never brought forth any arguments but instead resorted to weasel words. And he's way too smart not to recognize this.

We have motive (children, grandchildren), ability (smart, famous, wealthy), and the moral high ground (SJW's attacked first). It's only a matter of time till he goes full alt-right, if not full alt-reich, all the ingredients are there.

Blogger LP9 January 22, 2018 4:47 PM  

People forgot the meme wars; DTTTM and when you do prepare, JP was prepared.

I already heard the entire interview she was not prepared for someone whom is much more smarter than your average clinician and lecturer.

What happpens next?

The overly sensitive (sick) maleducated person with the agenda screams harassment, abuse, a security threat etc., when in fact none of that exists in reality, the (illness) was just exposed, call it stupidity, feminism, whatever, the media was merely exposed by someone that cannot be gamed or have the narrative flipped on him, really its a brilliant but expected outcome.

50,000 of what or whom, are but bots from twitter against a big strong woman whom just got therapied is now throwing a child's fit, nothing more for ratings meannwhile JP laughs to the bank and continues his lectures.

Again I dont care what anyone says of Peterson and long as they think of and write about him!

The Threat is that he is helping people.

The Threat was Cathy lost the discussion that was never combative to begin with because of her own self imposed blinders.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 22, 2018 4:48 PM  

johnc wrote:
People seem unwilling to accept the amount of intentional lying that goes on out there.

Despite all of Mike Cernovich's alt-lite / civic nationalist / anti-alt-right / anti-racist posturing, his event still got attacked by Antifa and labeled in all the press as an alt-right event. All over Twitter it was called a white supremacist event, etc.

We're not talking about people who show any kind of deference to the truth.


Yes I noticed that attack and likewise the lack of coverage of it here and at IG news. The antifas nearly beat one of the attendees to death. This is the truth that many - though I would say Peterson suffers to a lesser degree than Cernovich - simply cannot face. The enemy are not to be reasoned with. They are actually far worse than the Musloids they love to import en masse. Musloids, like wild beasts, sense strength and weakness. Being opportunistic, they will invariably take advantage of weakness and attack accordingly.

Our internal enemies - the cloud people and the SJWs who make up their vast support network - want us totally exterminated. Any "talk", "dialog" or "discussion" with such demons is completely worthless. They are not redeemable. It merely buys them more time to advance their plans for our extermination, which are already well under way even in places like Ireland. They will need to be destroyed - ruthlessly and with no mercy. Few - even here - understand this.

Anonymous CPEG January 22, 2018 4:49 PM  

"It is not impossible for someone to be both stupid AND evil."

Alinskyite Radicalism is essentially BASED on that.

Blogger LP9 January 22, 2018 4:50 PM  

My dear Milo weighs in beautifully https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTr8HcbnDRA

Blogger LP9 January 22, 2018 4:55 PM  

48 I don't think we have 50 years left, not to act negative though, just too aware trying to be positive for western civ.

Blogger bagginz January 22, 2018 5:08 PM  

>Peterson's a closet PoMo<

You couldn't be more wrong.

Peterson spends a good deal of his time attacking Post Modernism in no uncertain terms in his public speeches.

A quick search of Youtube will bring up at least 20 Peterson videos with titles such as:

"Jordan Peterson On The Evil Of Postmodernism"
"Why You Have To Fight Postmodernism"
"Jordan B Peterson: How to End Postmodernism"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPojltjv4M0

Anonymous qualitycontrol January 22, 2018 5:45 PM  

@39. Zeroh Tollrants
He makes big money right now. Being intellectually honest would mean that he'd have to ask for bitcoins.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 22, 2018 5:59 PM  

The few do. We're here.

Blogger LP9 January 22, 2018 6:28 PM  

Stefan weighs in with great support Thank You Milo, Everyone here and Stefan; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMKj1u2tXbI

Blogger Nakota Publishing January 22, 2018 6:36 PM  

In defense of Dr. Peterson, I've read both of Vox's excellent SJW books, and I probably would have fallen into the same trap. I'm a big believer in integrity and fair play, and I'm prone to forget that even though there are some good people on the other side, you can't trust any of them because of the bad actors in their camp. It's sad that we must now parse everything we say so carefully because even good will is interpreted as weakness.

Blogger Cecil Henry January 22, 2018 7:01 PM  



Kermit vs Miss Piggy: Kermit wins as always!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI-ItJX-pxM

Anonymous Opus January 22, 2018 7:20 PM  

I was amazed. I don't have a telly these days but I did when Channel 4 was new and it was always interesting and cutting edge (with amazing Japanese Porn on Friday late-night).

That interview however shows how it has fallen and how. An affirmative action woman of limited intelligence, ghastly to look at and of cult like indoctrination. Just about the worst interview I have ever seen and then C4 rather than quietly relieving the woman of her position predictably double-down.

Peterson is as he is perhaps beginning to discover too decent. Never give those bastards even the time of day but attack harder and lower than they thought possible. I find that is the only way.

Blogger wreckage January 22, 2018 8:59 PM  

A lot of people will be woken up to the fact that SJW's Always Lie by this.

Peterson is great, and unflappable.

Anonymous VFM #3606 January 22, 2018 9:10 PM  

No Nakota. There are no good men of the Left. They all must be attacked, without mercy, in God's name. SJWS always lie, just like their Father.

There is no such thing as a tender exorcist.

Blogger BigFire January 22, 2018 10:49 PM  

Here's the full video response Peterson did with a Dutch thingie, rather long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6qBxn_hFDQ

Anonymous Anonymous January 22, 2018 10:51 PM  

the debate in one graphics:
https://twitter.com/Propeng37/status/955106404473475072

Anonymous Magus January 23, 2018 4:17 AM  

tuberman wrote:It sometimes amazes me that Peterson even did an interview with Stefan. Does anyone believe he would ever do one with VD? He would have to go much further before that could happen, and even then he would bring in many false assumptions.

I hope so. VD would make a great interviewer. And I don't think he'd have to go very far. After all:

(1) Vox has a huge alt-right audience, and Dr JP bills himself as trying to save young men from falling to either extreme Left or Right, believing a balance lies between the two. I think he'd definitely be up for entering an arena where he could talk directly to the audience of the Dark Lord of the Alt Right.

(2) Vox has done interviews and debates with a whole range of people, and he's very civil about it. I mean, did you listen to his chat with Ethan Van Sciver? They had a heated disagreement, and yet they had such a civil discourse. Dr JP and Vox sharply diverge at a certain point, and I don't believe Vox will change Dr JP's mind on anything, but it will be interesting to hear Dr JP get challenged on certain points that others don't seem to be able to challenge him on.

Anonymous Luke January 23, 2018 5:56 AM  

The obvious way to end JBTs "accidentally on purpose" erasing/losing incriminating video of them perpetrating clear criminality is to make law and policy the same as refusal to take a breathalyzer test when pulled over by a cop for weaving while driving: it should be considered automatic proof of complete guilt of the highest degree.

Blogger Cato January 23, 2018 10:26 AM  

I very much enjoy Dr Peterson's work.

On Sjws (he does not call them sjws) he says they are not idealistic as idealism requires you to understand ideas and how they fit into reality.

No These people are according to him wishful thinkers who have a religious zeal to dogmatism.

Anonymous SidVic January 23, 2018 10:48 AM  

I have been surprised that no one has drawn JBP into a discussion of race and IQ. JP has alluded to the IQ science as being distressing, so he knows it. He also tells the truth, so this could be a pitfall for him. Imagine if Newman had countered his assertion of no average intelligence differences between men vs women with: Well what about africans?

Anonymous Magna Carta January 23, 2018 11:23 AM  

"Millions of years old lobster dominance hierarchies are no bloody joke man!" Jordan Peterson

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