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Tuesday, January 16, 2018

Upon further review

Last night I made two comments that drew an amount of attention. Well, three, actually. Allow me to explain:

First, as a result of Marvel badly misplaying its hand in an attempt to bypass the two major comics distributors and go direct-to-dealer in the late 90s, Diamond managed to establish a near-monopoly over the comics distribution business. Like all monopolies, their customer service has gone downhill as their prices have risen. If you combine their own reports on total retail sales with Hoover's report on their annual revenue, Diamond takes 22 percent of the total retail dollar that goes through the comics stores. That amounts to a 37 percent markup, 17 points and 85 percent more than is normal for a distribution business.

It's good to be the monopolist. The additional markup amounts to $55.8 million annually, or $31,885 in lost profit to each of the 1,750+ brick-and-mortar comics stores in the USA. It's no wonder these stores are struggling or that long-established retail establishments are closing down everywhere from Arizona to Iowa and Sacramento. Diamond isn't evil or even particularly rapacious, they are simply failing to recognize that they have been devouring their own seed corn. The rise of digital delivery systems combined with the shrinking physical channel is going to place Diamond in an increasingly difficult position; I would expect them to buy some of the independent publishers and get into content production themselves as time goes on, since from what I hear they are pretty smart.

Second, we have found it difficult to establish Alpenwolf even though we have completed one DevGame game and have several others in various stages of development because the major free game sites, Addicting Games and Kongregate, have kept changing their strategies in ways that make it difficult to work for them. Since we already built a complete virtual goods and virtual currency infrastructure, there is no reason why we shouldn't simply launch our own free-to-play site. It's going to be very small by gaming standards, and will probably launch with 3-5 games, but at least we'll have a vehicle for getting our games out there to the gamers. From there, its simply a matter of building traffic and that's not a challenge that frightens us. Frankly, it's probably preferable to be able to grow slowly and steadily int his regard. Look for announcements asking for volunteers concerning forum moderation and writing trivia questions for everything from the NFL and NCAA football to comics and television shows in the next few months.

Third, if you think Neil Gaiman is a great novelist, or even a great SF/F novelist, you are simply wrong. He is a successful, talented and much-loved SF/F author, and understandably so, but he is also little more than a very successful stunt writer with two or three tricks in his bag. There is a reason that all of his notable books involve mythology of one sort or another; his true gift is translating ancient myth into a form that pleases postmodern palates. He also has the ability to convey that sense of the numinous that I lack. But Neal Stephenson, William Gibson, Alan Moore, John C. Wright, China Mieville, Nick Cole, and even George R.R. Martin are all better, more original SF/F writers with considerably more to say about the human condition than Gaiman.

When I have thought about the writers whose work I would like to be able to emulate or surpass over the years, Neil Gaiman never once entered into the equation, not even for a moment. Consider that American Gods is described as "Neil Gaiman's best and most ambitious novel yet." I liked that story considerably better when it was called Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul and On the Road. That being said, of the various comics I have read, Sandman is head-and-shoulders above the rest.

As for my own writing, you might contemplate this: How many other authors flow as easily across as broad a range of genres as I do? How many authors have historically done so? Perhaps my inability to focus precludes achieving greatness in any one genre, but I think that sort of unusual breadth at least merits consideration.

UPDATE: this guy has a skeptical, but reasonable perspective on the situation.
To say Arkhaven has been controversial is an understatement. From the moment the company’s flagship title, Alt-Hero, was announced the internet was debating whether a right wing perspective would “save” comics, or further damage an already fractured industry. But as I said before, what’s lacking is a shared notion of what “saving comics” really means. That said, there is a general consensus that Mark Waid’s head on pike would be a good start. Which brings us back to Vox Day and Arkhaven. Most criticism directed toward Vox can be boiled down to: “The last thing comics needs is another goddamn writer with an agenda.”

A self-described libertarian nationalist and member of the Alt-Right, Vox Day has never been shy about his politics. Likewise, his yet to be release Alt-Hero series looks to be something of a satire of today’s overly politicized comics. The project is still months away from completion, so for now we’ll just have to wait and see. In the meantime, Arkhaven has two titles digitally available on Amazon—Quantum Mortis and Right Ho, Jeeves. Both are selling well. Neither are political in nature. And there’s the rub—Alt-Hero could be a political screed. Then again, maybe not. But so far Arkhaven’s catalog hasn’t shown itself to be a mouthpiece for anybody’s politics. If only we could say the same for Marvel.

Does this signal a new dawn for comics? Well, if bringing content to an ignored demographic is Arkhaven’s end goal, it’s not a bad start. And drawing new readers to the medium is a net gain for everyone. But as Green Lantern artist Ethan Van Sciver has been quick to point out, the company currently has no presence in Diamond’s monthly Previews catalog, which is a prerequisite for getting books stocked in comic book stores. And in Sciver’s eyes, if a company isn’t moving product through brick-and-mortar shops, it’s contributing absolutely nothing to the overall health of the industry.

I’ll be blunt, if Arkhaven can eventually become successful enough to provide comics shops with enough monthly product to pay the rent, Vox will not only save the industry, he’ll be the motherfucking Batman.
Better yet, the Shade.

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68 Comments:

Blogger SteelPalm January 16, 2018 5:46 AM  

Heh, I used to talk with Kongregate co-founder and current CEO Emily Greer way back in the early days of the site. It still has some decent games come out, but hasn't evolved over the last few years except to push more worthless pay-to-win cowclicker MMOs, with a side of puzzlers advertising a mobile app.

I'm decently aware of their API and payouts, so out of curiosity, what was the problem with posting the game there?

And completely agree about comic writers. I'm far more familiar with the Japanese ones, and while there are many talented mangaka, only a few are geniuses I would rank up there with great writers, and even then, they don't compare to the very, very best like Murakami, Maugham, etc.

The trouble is that a lot of comic book readers don't read literature. In the same way a person seeing a movie for the first time will think it's awesome, regardless of actual quality, just because of the novelty, so too will a comic book reader praise any work with ideas and content approaching that of a respectable, nevermind good book.

Blogger Sherwood family January 16, 2018 5:51 AM  

Not sure if you've seen this, VD. But it is an interesting take on the debate you had with EVS.

http://jishirofinney.com/index.php/2018/01/15/saving-comics-with-vox-day-ethan-van-sciver/


Blogger VD January 16, 2018 5:53 AM  

I'm decently aware of their API and payouts, so out of curiosity, what was the problem with posting the game there?

They don't want free arcade games anymore, they only want RPGs with extended play and virtual goods.

Blogger Lovekraft January 16, 2018 6:03 AM  

Re Gaiman, I distinctly remember his fans appearing on the scene in the late 80s (IIRC) and they came across as proto-SJWs. Smug, condescending and effeminate. Similar to Harry Potter fans. Off-putting in that comic books were mainly about superheroes. That's just my 2 cents.

Blogger Shimshon January 16, 2018 6:17 AM  

Hopefully Shade is taller.

Blogger James Dixon January 16, 2018 6:32 AM  

> ...the company currently has no presence in Diamond’s monthly Previews catalog, which is a prerequisite for getting books stocked in comic book stores.

OK, that's wrong. It may make it much easier, but it is not a prerequisite.

> And in Sciver’s eyes, if a company isn’t moving product through brick-and-mortar shops, it’s contributing absolutely nothing to the overall health of the industry.

Sciver has obviously not been watching the book publishing space at all over the past decade.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 16, 2018 6:42 AM  

It's very clear that too many people can't help but think that AltHero is just going to be the mirror image of the SJW crap out there right now. Just anti-SJW screeds with terrible prose and lacking real and engaging stories.

That's a big error. I can see - from my very limited exposure to Vox - that this is not close to what he wants to do. He's not going to be so on the nose with any political messaging. Tell a good story with interesting characters that isn't imbued with SJ, but instead with realism and truth, and you've done the job.

The left used to know how to do subtle and sophisticated, but now it's all just dumb, blunt and in your face. And so now apparently nobody thinks it can be done otherwise.

Anonymous Jordi January 16, 2018 6:44 AM  

Sad to see Kongregate pulling out of good free casual games in favor of promoting "F2P" mobile games to play on a desktop.

Blogger VD January 16, 2018 6:49 AM  

Sad to see Kongregate pulling out of good free casual games in favor of promoting "F2P" mobile games to play on a desktop.

Every window that closes is a door opening on an opportunity....

Anonymous vfm 0202 January 16, 2018 7:03 AM  

I'm a tiny demographic I guess. I won't play pay to win. Hate hate hate virtual game-potent goods. But I'll happily cough up $25/month.

Blogger Dave January 16, 2018 7:12 AM  

Sciver thought he'd be lecturing you on Diamond. It was great when you started throwing out their numbers and the impact on comic book stores. Also, you were very gentle when you reminded him he's an artist not a businessman.

Blogger VD January 16, 2018 7:16 AM  

I'll happily cough up $25/month.

What would you want in return for a subscription? Premium games, free virtual goods, or what? We're not planning on having any advertising regardless, that model is dead.

Blogger The Observer January 16, 2018 7:27 AM  

I did enjoy that interview. I'll agree with some others that EVS was not quite expecting this, and might allow himself to be turned some time down the road.

What would you want in return for a subscription? Premium games, free virtual goods, or what?

Personally? Optional increased difficulties (pay to lose). Behind the scenes developer commentary like what happened with Half-Life 2. Minigames embedded within the main game, perhaps; premium games sounds like a bit too much, especially if they are multiplayer. Perhaps a more direct suggestion/feedback line to developers via the forums. Since I understand part of your plan for Alpenwolf was to embed short stories and novels within games, perhaps a free copy of the latest game-related literature out on the site.

I'm not a cosmetics person, since the trend has been to go overboard with those, but someone else might enjoy them, especially if they can show them off.

Blogger The Observer January 16, 2018 7:28 AM  

Oh, and no lootboxes, please. Please no skinner box mechanics. Won't speak for anyone else, but I find them a huge turn off.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 16, 2018 7:39 AM  

I had to skip the debate last night.

Is there a plan to get your comics into bricks and mortar stores?

Blogger VD January 16, 2018 7:43 AM  

Is there a plan to get your comics into bricks and mortar stores?

Yes, in the February-March timeframe.

Anonymous kfg January 16, 2018 7:44 AM  

In the short run, yes, comic book shops need product that appeals to the fans and can keep them alive.

In the long run, however, comic book shops should be essentially irrelevant to the industry, catering only to the anorak hobbyists and collectors, like a postage stamp or Hot Wheels shop.

Anonymous Anonymous January 16, 2018 8:10 AM  

Listening to it now.

I find it notable that after you misheard him ask about Martin Luther (vs MLK), there was no correction from him. He was either remarkably polite to a guest or just didn't know to distinguish a 16th century protestant giant from the 1960s civil rights giant

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 16, 2018 8:20 AM  

Duke Norfolk wrote:It's very clear that too many people can't help but think that AltHero is just going to be the mirror image of the SJW crap out there right now. Just anti-SJW screeds with terrible prose and lacking real and engaging stories.

That's a big error. I can see - from my very limited exposure to Vox - that this is not close to what he wants to do. He's not going to be so on the nose with any political messaging. Tell a good story with interesting characters that isn't imbued with SJ, but instead with realism and truth, and you've done the job


Our host keeps reminding us that the Alt Right is recognition of reality. A story imbued with realism and truth is Alt Right. I suppose that's part of the reason SJWs always lie.

Anonymous Eduardo January 16, 2018 8:31 AM  

Person #1: "What is your superpower?"
Vox Day: "I'm Rich."

Blogger VD January 16, 2018 8:33 AM  

I checked my privilege. Turned out it was my IQ.

Anonymous kfg January 16, 2018 8:47 AM  

The superpower of the idiots is mobbing.

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum January 16, 2018 8:47 AM  

I had to skip the debate last night.

Unskip it. 'Twas good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXiYtzTP_qU

Blogger Jim Carroll January 16, 2018 8:51 AM  

> ... that they have been devouring their own seed corn

Heh. What a great metaphor.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 16, 2018 9:01 AM  

VD wrote:I checked my privilege. Turned out it was my IQ.

We're not in a shithole
because we've got
IQ, and they have not.

Blogger Silly but True January 16, 2018 9:09 AM  

No lies detected here or in last night's debate.

EVS is suggesting folly: "the way to save comics is work within the broken system, and bang your head against the wall until it cracks in ways the prior 2,000 to try it didn't."

Why? I don't need Diamond. The comic shops don't need Diamond. It just happened to be a way to make some people's lives easier to move product from producer to end sales points at a time when they made sense.

But now there are even easier ways than theirs.

Blogger tuberman January 16, 2018 9:16 AM  

I'd never heard of Neil Gaiman until VD mentioned him, and will find his best SF book or two and give them a try.

I found George R.R. Martin to be good for a while, but bored with his writing and TV shows now. Looking back, Martin is better than most of the writing and TV available, so there is THAT REASON why popular.

People have so little awareness of good to great material today, and they accept the okay as great.

I talk to this guy who called me a Nazi twice about a year and a half ago, but he is an intelligent/lefty, and slightly open. He now listens to me and is quite friendly. Just saying, some subtle shifts are happening. This bodes well for Alt*Hero and the Culture Wars.

GenZ and the Culture Wars, BOOM!

Anonymous op January 16, 2018 9:22 AM  

"He is a successful, talented and much-loved SF/F author, and understandably so, but he is also little more than a very successful stunt writer with two or three tricks in his bag. There is a reason that all of his notable books involve mythology of one sort or another; his true gift is translating ancient myth into a form that pleases postmodern palates."

I thought this was obvious. I like Neil Gaiman, I do, but he is just a glorified fanfiction author. The difference between him and other fanfiction writers, is that his subjects are public domain. He can make money off it and everyone (esp. goth girls) are floored by his genius.

Blogger tuberman January 16, 2018 9:22 AM  

EVS interview was a very positive sign, better than hoped.

Anonymous Causal Lurker January 16, 2018 9:30 AM  

Ominous Cowherd has invoked the Belloc-alypse Cow. Time for the "read, write and cypher" protocol.

Adding to The Observer's thoughts, virtual goods like higher quality images to download (print decals, comic or graphic short, or cards) might have a niche. Opportunity to alpha test concepts, or a limited release quest package or add-on would be interesting. The objective is to provide something interesting and attractive (in "play these!" terms) to several segments of the target population range, in priority order.

Blogger James Dixon January 16, 2018 9:32 AM  

> EVS interview was a very positive sign, better than hoped.

Once the big two are shown to be paper tigers, Diamond is show to be irrelevant to sales, and Arkhaven is shown to be a success, he'll come on board.

Blogger tuberman January 16, 2018 9:33 AM  

This Middle Man thing will be interesting to observe in the future. If business is to improve, many middle men need to be deconstructed, as they are destructive to business as they exist presently. This is even more important to the job market, where they are absolute parasites, living off of Affirmative Action Rules.

Blogger Quilp January 16, 2018 9:39 AM  

I see EVS as being comfortable playing the role of mocking what he (and to be fair, almost everyone else) sees as the degradation of the comic book world he loves. I'm not sure he knows how to react to a complete paradigm shift within his world. Is Vox a threat to his status? What if Vox is a success, doing things he doesn't totally agree with, but they have a common enemy? In the end, its going to be guys like him can come along for the ride, or get flattened pining for a world that hasn't existed for some time

Blogger tuberman January 16, 2018 9:48 AM  

Going on a bit about Affirmative Action Rules. Research has demonstrated to me that these rules allow huge amounts of hidden money laundering flows for Globalists to exist, one of the biggest scams centers in Chicago. This has all been slowly exposed to many researchers the past few weeks, and is part of the middle man/woman crap that allows ever increasing corruption to be hidden in plain sight.

Anonymous Uncle John's Band January 16, 2018 10:01 AM  

The anxiety among “apolitical” comics fandom over Arkhaven resembles the general misunderstanding of the Alt-Right among moderates. Specifically, the facile notion of “balance” that posits a false equivalence between the ideologues on the left and our broad-based empirical foundations. In my experience, Vox has no “angle”; he shares observations and logically-derived conclusions that are subject to re-evaluation as more information presents itself. This is completely different in form, not just content, from the mindless universality of SJWism. More broadly, the fundamental idiocy of Hegelian dialectic, that diametric opposites are somehow able to forge a happy compromise reality, has been far too influential in the modernity. Though not strictly western, the unintentional tragicomic symbolism of the South African flag is a fine example.

Appearances like the EVS debate are valuable, because they allow people to see Vox’s measured, reasonable personality, and blow up the myth that he is a hateful menace. Years of business and media ventures have also made him very good at presenting his reasoning in a manner accessible to mainstream viewers, as far as I can tell. Truth-facing storytellers don’t need “political screed.” The act of presenting the human condition in an uncompromisingly truthful manner is the only statement necessary. The fact that the comic fans are worried about heavy-handed ideology is a actually a great sign, because those concerns will evaporate in the face of quality stories.

The desire for escapism reminds me of the initial reaction to gamergate, when beleaguered and demoralized gamers were initially suspicious of the arrival of fighters like Milo and Cernovich, only to realize that these guys are sincere and know how to win. I suspect a lot of traumatized comic fans will come around just as quickly on Vox and Arkhaven, once they see what it's all about.

Anonymous bearspaw January 16, 2018 10:02 AM  

EVS on twitter: I felt like I beat him up a little bit too much 1/3 of the way in. Felt sorry about it and backed off for the rest of the show.
The guy is deluded on several levels.

Blogger B.J. January 16, 2018 10:03 AM  

Where did the Neil Gaimen comment come from? Feel like I'm missing something here.

Blogger S1AL January 16, 2018 10:09 AM  

Vox called Gaiman a mediocre novelist, which is true. 'American Gods' was ultimately boring. It could have been an interesting book with a good plot twist, but Gaiman just doesn't have the capacity in the medium. And this is coming from someone who loves rewrites of Mythos.

Blogger tuberman January 16, 2018 10:12 AM  

The shifts toward Arkhaven comics will be mild with some at first, yet others will embrace it with enthusiasm. The enthusiastic group will evangelize the whole Arkhaven line. Evangelistic Marketing is the "secret formula" for amazing success.

Blogger S1AL January 16, 2018 10:16 AM  

Small feedback on the interview:

You overuse the phrases "as you know" and "the thing is", or minor variants. If you plan to do more promotional stuff, variety helps keep people engaged.

I didn't catch a part where you talked about alt-hero in a positive light, rather than from a defensive position. This is partly on Ethan, but if I weren't familiar with the people I'd have no idea what alt-hero is supposed to be. I also didn't catch you making the tie between Avalon and alt-hero, generally.

Blogger VD January 16, 2018 10:28 AM  

Vox called Gaiman a mediocre novelist, which is true.

I wouldn't go that far. Scalzi is a mediocre novelist. Gaiman is a better-than-average novelist, but he's what I would consider to be of the third or fourth rank. He is by no means a great one.

Blogger lowell houser January 16, 2018 10:45 AM  

"I’ll be blunt, if Arkhaven can eventually become successful enough to provide comics shops with enough monthly product to pay the rent, Vox will not only save the industry, he’ll be the motherfucking Batman."

So Vox, when's your cape-fitting scheduled?

Anonymous kfg January 16, 2018 10:55 AM  

"Diamond is show to be irrelevant to sales"

And that while comic book shops need comic book buyers, comic book buyers don't need comic book shops. People like EVS (and not a few comic book shop owners) have an otaku focus that makes them prone to view what is necessary for the health of the industry to be a threat to the industry, because it is a threat to the moribund status quo of the industry.

Blogger bob kek mando January 16, 2018 10:55 AM  

25. tuberman January 16, 2018 9:16 AM
I'd never heard of Neil Gaiman until VD mentioned him, and will find his best SF book or two and give them a try.


don't.

he doesn't do anything in his prose that he didn't do in his comic work.

get the trade collections of 'Sandman' and be done with it.


and to repeat:
Shade.
must.
be.
thrown.

Blogger slarrow January 16, 2018 10:56 AM  

What Ethan really couldn't grasp is that you're not creating a specific comic so much as you are creating a new platform. He wants to hold you to a particular image (like Rebel/Confederate flag) or worry about the guilt-by-association impact of the eeeeevil Vox Day on the other work by Chuck Dixon and the like, but he just doesn't quite grasp that you build platforms.

You're a world-builder in real life: Castalia House, Infogalactic, Alpenwolf, Avalon, and the like. That's part of why people like Ethan get in trouble with the knee-jerk reactions: you're playing a long game, and the momentary acceptance of the latest field just isn't all that interesting or important or relevant to you.

Blogger James Dixon January 16, 2018 11:25 AM  

> And that while comic book shops need comic book buyers, comic book buyers don't need comic book shops.

See my comment about him not having watched the book publishing space over the past decade. :)

Blogger RobertT January 16, 2018 11:27 AM  

I'm impressed. Traffic is everything.

" From there, its simply a matter of building traffic and that's not a challenge that frightens us. "

Anonymous kfg January 16, 2018 11:35 AM  

@James Dixon:

Even restricting the field to dead trees in meatspace, as I mentioned the other day I have bought many comic books, before the Internet and digital era, but have never set foot in a comic book shop. Indeed, at the time it never occurred to me that their might be such a thing.

The comic book industry was healthy, so comic book outlets were nearly ubiquitous.

Anonymous COBRA! January 16, 2018 11:43 AM  

Better yet, the Shade.

Check out Cobra Commander at the back. Woo!

If the battleground is comics, the war is dumb.

Anonymous kfg January 16, 2018 12:02 PM  

Come to think of it, back when books stores were healthy books I bought like Stuka Pilot, Japanese Destroyer Captain, Fighting the Flying Circus and Daredevils of the Speedway weren't typically stocked in the book stores. I bought them from impulse purchase racks which could be found nearly everywhere but book and women's clothing stores.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 16, 2018 12:04 PM  

@kfg My experience was the same. I remember looking through the comics in Waldenbooks occasionally but that's about it.

With new distribution channels like Kindle Unlimited it's a different world.

Blogger Brad Matthews January 16, 2018 12:19 PM  

It's probably the comic/game store experience he thinks is still necessary. I loved book stores and comic shops as a teen and regret my boys never shared the nostalgia. Times have permanently changed and everyone serious better get on board early.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction January 16, 2018 12:22 PM  

@4

I actually attended an event with Neil Gaiman because my wife is a Gaiman fan and somehow wrangled our attendance, got to spoke with him briefly in a small pre-event prior to his literary lecture. It should come as no surprise that he gave off the exact same persona as his titular character Sandman, and he looked like he would have much rather been anywhere than where he was. I think the idolization he received left him uncomfortable. Overall though, in the brief exchange I had with him, I found him pleasant, though that may be in part that I was only aware of who he was as a writer at the time due to my wife and had not read any of his works to date so my conversation with him was more "ordinary" than those of his fans.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 16, 2018 12:47 PM  

What kind of games are you talking about? I don't play any games but my wife plays a couple. One is a match the picture game where you type in the name given four clues and the other is a, "Wizard of Oz" bejewelled thing.

That game I don't mind listening to at all it has Judy garland saying stuff from the movie. Even over a phone's speaker her voice is so adorable and the music so iconic it's addictive.

My wife might pay a buck or two for a really good game.

I won't play any, that way lies madness.

Anonymous kfg January 16, 2018 12:52 PM  

My local bibliophile used book store closed down a few years ago. I chatted with the owner bit on his last day while cherry picking his stock. He didn't close because he was failing. He closed because his business was going great guns - over the Internet which gave him a world market. He said it was 90% of his business, but the store was 90% of his overhead and, more importantly, time. Why bother?

The Cowboy Era, so ingrained in the American mind as America actually only existed for about 20 years before rail made it obsolete.

The Pony Express only lasted a year and half before the telegraph made it obsolete.

Comic shops had a time between the big industry crunch and the rise of Internet/digital marketing, but now even their natural niche, specials and collectables, are largely traded by mouse click.

If you're in Manhattan on the regular, sure you can cruise over to Midtown and there's a big enough comic nerd population to support it, but if you're in Schroon Lake, you hit the net. If you're after Amazing Spiderman #1 you probably hit the net first even if you're in Manhattan.

You have to be in a fairly tight age range for comic book shops to be part of your treasured life experience. Like for Davy Crockett hats. Their time may not yet be over, but if I owned one and was making any sort of money at all, I'd be putting it into my exit strategy.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 16, 2018 1:26 PM  

bearspaw wrote:EVS on twitter: I felt like I beat him up a little bit too much 1/3 of the way in. Felt sorry about it and backed off for the rest of the show.

The guy is deluded on several levels.


He started saying Vox is Eeeeeeevilllll. Now he's saying Vox is wrong. And he might be right about that. He seems open tot he possibility he's wrong about it as well. Good on him.

As far as comic book shops, they will be more and more and more converged with the game/hobby shop business. And the game shop business is heavily dependent on the one thing you can't do in cyberspace, meet up physically to play a game. The successful game shops I know of have gaming spaces available and events 4 or 5 nights a week. Comics are an adjunct to that business, as they have a lot of audience overlap with tabletop and card gaming.
Comic shops that can't make that transition, and aren't in a major population center are doomed anyway.

Blogger James Dixon January 16, 2018 1:52 PM  

> As far as comic book shops, they will be more and more and more converged with the game/hobby shop business.

Most of the ones I've seen over the past 10 years have already made that transition.

Blogger tublecane January 16, 2018 2:09 PM  

@50-The Comic Store Experience is fulfilling to most people as the dentist's office experience. The only comics-type shop I've ever been in was unwelcoming and full of old weirdos chatting like the world's lamest college dorm. (One time, I overheard a guy quoting lyrics to CSNY's Wooden Ships as if they just occurred to him.) Which isn't to mention the trenchcoat crowd who shuffled through for the pornography section. (Back when people actually purchased pornography.)

I could see its worth if you were as starved for community as someone who just came back from a solo tour of the Antarctic.

Blogger Lovekraft January 16, 2018 4:44 PM  

One thing I started to notice in the 2000s was the feeling that comic books were more laid out like movies, as thought the comic was just a published movie treatment.

This is fine, but I felt that there wasn't enough heart and commitment to making a good book. More like a pitch to get a big movie deal.

Blogger Lovekraft January 16, 2018 5:00 PM  

@33 Tuberman:

Wealth transference on a national scale. Obama perfected these shakedown rackets.

BLM was just a non-subtle reminder to the mark not to get any funny ideas.

Anonymous Matvei Daniilovich January 16, 2018 6:08 PM  

I think Millar & Hitch started that with the Ultimates & then everyone else just ran with it. Everyone hopes for that Hollywood money I guess.

Blogger papabear January 16, 2018 6:21 PM  

The Shade reminds me of a Japanese anime villain, like the main one for Gatchaman.

Blogger Ahärôwn January 16, 2018 6:32 PM  

vfm 0202 wrote:I'm a tiny demographic I guess. I won't play pay to win. Hate hate hate virtual game-potent goods. But I'll happily cough up $25/month.



Hmm - the website would have to be excellent for me to pay that much. I pay $15-20Cdn/month for MMO's like SWTOR and EVE, and I don't think an MMO is in the works atm.

Also, Vox, doesn't GOG also publish new games?

Anonymous vfm 0202 January 16, 2018 6:46 PM  

I'm seriously old school. Like, I play tiled Angband. It's a little lacking in the social aspects. :(

The most fun I ever had in an MMORPG was of all things in Asheron's Call. Beware the bunny!

And that's the kind of game I'd pay for, as long as I was being ganked by better players rather than big budgets.


Anonymous Anonymous January 16, 2018 7:29 PM  

I finished American Gods. But did not enjoy it one bit. I thought it had lots of good ideas, but they were wrapped in a narrative that did not interest me. Stardust was okay. But, the stand-alone sequel to American Gods - Anansi's Boys is one of my favorite casual reads. Not particularly deep, but a good entertaining story.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 16, 2018 7:47 PM  

I'm seriously old school. Like, I play tiled Angband.

That's not old school.
Larn is old school.
ADVENT is old school.

Blogger James Dixon January 16, 2018 9:43 PM  

> Larn is old school.

Larn is for people who can't handle Rogue.

> ADVENT is old school.

Now that I'll grant.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 17, 2018 1:41 AM  

but if I owned one and was making any sort of money at all, I'd be putting it into my exit strategy.

If I owned a retail store of any kind, I'd be looking for an exit strategy. We are vastly over-retailed, and we have a generation or two of people - not just clerks and floorwalkers, but executives, buyers, marketeers, etc - who know nothing but retail.

As online continues to consolidate and easy money continues to evaporate, competition for a place at the ever-shrinking retail trough is going to get intense.

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