Saturday, January 20, 2018

Yeah, because THAT'S the problem

Someone who may or may not be Robert Downey Jr. speculates on a coming action by a company that may or may not be Warner/DC:
This studio has admitted internally that it has failed in its efforts at emulating the success of the one that now owns the world.  Their new secret plan? To "split" the properties into two divisions.  One for "kids", basically carrying on with the universe-multiverse they've already created under the disastrous helm of _____________.  And the other division for "adults", to create more realistic-themed movies of the same properties, like their most successful versions.  How do they plan to make this happen? They proposed to hire this family, give them first-dollar gross revenues on EVERY PROJECT; and give them carte blanche and full control over that second division.  At this point, the studio has nothing to lose in that contest.
Warner Bros. would do better to split their DC film properties into two divisions, one for SJWs and one for everyone else. But because they are literally run by SJWs, complete with major Hillary fundraisers and Bill Clinton's former press secretary, there is zero chance that the convergence will not continue to get worse.

And at this point, I really don't have a problem with that.

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Blogger tublecane January 20, 2018 5:40 AM  

If they're going to emulate the success of Marvel. I suppose they'll just hire whoever works at Marvel. Then they'll both be exactly the same. Just like eternal enemies, Star Wars and Star Trek, were both recently revived by Jay-Jay Abramson.

Then everything in Hollywood can be samer, which is just what it needs. Nothing too complex Chinese subsistence rice farmers can't understand. When they have a little pocket change after a surplus harvest.

Anonymous Simon in London January 20, 2018 5:57 AM  

I think the interesting question is whether Marvel Studios can continue its successful sjw-lite or "90s left liberal" approach, as exemplified by Joss Whedon, a guy who is clearly a "feminist ally", but who can also pen lines like Captain America's:

"There's only one God, ma'am."

Which a true SJW would only ever allow to be spoken by a Jew, Muslim, or villainous Christian character.

Will Marvel Studios be able to hold the line against SJW insanity, or will they follow the comics, move to full Convergence, and thus open the field to competitors to take their crown?

Blogger John M January 20, 2018 6:06 AM  

Marvel movies were successful only because they have the best producer ever Kevin Feige, who had the common sense to ditch Joss Whedon once it became obvious he's cancer. Marvel films will be fine as long as Feige remains in charge, once Feige gets purged (something that is inevitable) then the train will be over.

Anonymous Dogfish January 20, 2018 6:27 AM  

@2 and @3 I have long suspected She won is someone who can come up with good overall ideas and characters but it is the people around him who really make them succeed. A lot of what made Buffy and Angel so good came from Tim Minear who managed to counter Whedon's gamma tendency to put his insecurities into the story.

Anonymous Anonymous January 20, 2018 6:29 AM  

After reading Vox's books on SJWs, I have come to the conclusion that once a company is totally converged that it must die off to destroy the disease. There does not seem to be any hope of saving the company --- if by "saving" we mean getting rid of the SJWs.

If I am right, then any bad move by a converged media company is really good news. (in a backhanded sort of way perhaps)

Blogger Koanic January 20, 2018 6:58 AM  

> I really don't have a problem with that

I knew that engraved tear was fake!

Blogger rainman January 20, 2018 7:20 AM  

Any ideas for the family? If it's the Nolan brothers, the ones who made the Batman movies that have been far and away the most successful DC movies this millennia, and they are really given carte blanche then there is a chance this move will succeed. If its anyone else, or if the execs can't resist injecting the movies full of leftist propaganda, probably not.

Anonymous karsten January 20, 2018 7:47 AM  

DC's films didn't manifest complete convergence until (((Joss Whedon))) took over Justice League and turned it into a pseudo-Marvel movie. The Marvel films were always FAR more SJWish than DC's previous projects. (Remember, this is relatively speaking.)

Man of Steel, the only decent Superman film to date, had quite a few pro-Christian references, and it gave Clark Kent more of a goyish and less of a Jewish identity than any previous movie. That's the real reason why the critics crapped all over it.

Even Batman vs. Superman, for all of its flaws, was far less Leftist than any of Marvel's campy/corny rubbish. But Warner/DC was always unrealistically measuring itself against Marvel numbers, and succumbed to the idiotic "Too dark! Too serious!" attacks by the (((critics))), so they turned over their fare to ultra-SJW Whedon. And the CultMarx abomination that was Justice League was the inevitable outcome.

Blogger S'mon January 20, 2018 7:57 AM  

#3 & #4 thanks for the insights (clearly I'm not enough of a movie/TV dork!). So it's Kevin Feige who is doing the objectively-good work at Marvel Studios? Does that mean the SJW death cult will target him at some point, eg in a #MeToo attack?

I guess the good thing about fighting a death cult is that they destroy the very instruments they need to win, in this case the media-industrial complex. They are incredibly good at taking over things, which makes them hard to fight. But they are also incredibly good at destroying things - which means they can never win.

Blogger Johnny January 20, 2018 7:57 AM  

Teenagers and are a big consumers of entertainment. Boys more movies and girls the music. Thus they commonly want the production to appeal to that group. So, you know, the movie is dimed down to the level where a sixteen year old is comfortable with it.

As for current trends, one thing George Lucas introduced was the special effects extravaganza. The problem they have now is that there is so much of it being produced. Aside from the SJW crap problem, there is an overload on the sound and light show, signifying nothing.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 20, 2018 7:58 AM  

Warner Bros. would do better to split their DC film properties into two divisions, one for SJWs and one for everyone else.

Their problem is simple enough. They don't understand what makes a hero, heroic.

Oh they use the word "hero" a lot but that is invariably for some achievement that is pretty hard to define. The heroism of Barrack Obama.

When Warner went looking for a man on horseback to lead them to boxoffice safety, they sadly picked Zack Snyder.

A devout Randite Objectivist, Snyder was a terrible choice for helming a project that featured an optimistic, idealistic, hopeful and selfless hero. Snyder is driven by stoic philosophy with devout atheism at it's core. It made him a great director for 300 and an okay director for Watchmen. While Watchmen wasn't a hit but he was true to the story that Moore had written. Snyder honestly didn't understand Superman, not even a little bit. Jonathon Kent's battlecry was, "don't get involved." Martha Kent's was, "you don't owe these people a damn thing." Snyder's Superman reflected those values. He fought General Zod because he didn't have much choice in the matter. Sure the visuals were great but these days the visuals are always great. Man of Steel was as unfeeling as a hunk of metal..

He could probably do a great version of The Dark Knight Returns but he would be terrible for All Star Superman.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 20, 2018 8:12 AM  

The fundamentals have just been so terrible regarding even a basic premise.

Nolan's Batman made them a few billion so it's understandable that WB would want him to lead the Justice League but the fundamental problem is that you don't call Batman if a comet is about destroy the Earth.

You call Batman if someone is robbing a bank.

During the Justice League Snyder and Whedon just ended up giving Batman, 'stuff to do' because he had 'no reason to be there.' His rounding up the team stuff could have been done just as effectively by Wonder Woman and it would have given Gal Gadot's butt more screen time.

Blogger Johnny January 20, 2018 8:13 AM  

I love the visuals that Zack Snyder turns out, but he is not that good a storyteller. The guy needs a good script or the production won't work. And I suppose @11 is right. Not really up to producing a bright and sunny production.

Anonymous 88 January 20, 2018 8:14 AM  

Not sure, but I've heard that there is already a plethora of "Adult" comics available at places like Xhamster.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 20, 2018 8:15 AM  

rainman wrote:Any ideas for the family? If it's the Nolan brothers, the ones who made the Batman movies that have been far and away the most successful DC movies this millennia, and they are really given carte blanche then there is a chance this move will succeed. If its anyone else, or if the execs can't resist injecting the movies full of leftist propaganda, probably not.

You wish.

Given that it's Warner Brothers my money is the Wachowski (*gag*) Sisters.

Apparently the fat one is "Transing" now as well.

Anonymous Avalanche January 20, 2018 9:18 AM  

@15 "Apparently the fat one is "Transing" now as well."

Is there something in the WATER!?! (Although Paglia says sexual/gender "confusion" is one of the final signs of a civilization's decadence and descent into death.)

I'm old enough to remember that tennis player who "transitioned" -- that was the first (public) one with surgery, as I remember. Big news! (First step?)

Seems like "suddenly" there are literally THOUSANDS of people who want to be the other sex -- and it's mostly men? Is this because men have become the hated-object targets of the "whole" society -- and since boys have had NO demonstrations of manhood and the 'how to grow up' paths -- they think 'being woman' is the best thing?

Does this differ from the 'dark skins' in India and Africa buying skin-lightening chemicals to try to become 'better'? Or, going back in time in our own societies -- the poor emulating the rich? "These," this group, this way of life is presented as the right, the best, the most important -- and so "we" peons want to become them, to act like them, (to have our dicks cut off since women are the only good things out there?!)

Is it just another version of plastic surgery?! ("You, TOO, can be made better! More acceptable!")

I don't remember ANY boys when I was growing up wanting to be girls. Were they just hiding -- were there thousands of kids in the 50's and 60's who did NOT want to grow up and be men? (You'll notice they NEVER make or show movies/media any longer that DO show grown men acting like men! (Bogey? Stewart, Wayne, Rogers?) Now it's all "Dumb and Dumber" -- fodder for Peter Pans!

(Or is it just the estrogenic compounds in EVERYTHING (drugs, food, air, water!) around us?!)

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 20, 2018 9:27 AM  

Hollywood like the NFL only has one oar in the water, neither is going anywhere.

Aside from Nolan's Batman the sequels of all those lines fades as they go along.

Having that Elba dude play every male lead is considered fresh in H'wood, let it die.

Blogger So Meh January 20, 2018 9:37 AM  

The movie camera loves Gal Gadot. Off screen seems to be more fun than Jennifer Lawrence. DC Movies should focus on her and DC TV do the other characters. TV's Supergirl, which is 200% SJW converged, an entertaining show. Let Batman rest for awhile.

Blogger Michael Maier January 20, 2018 9:42 AM  

I still want folks beaten for MAN OF STEEL's portrayal of Jonathan Kent.

Anonymous BBGKB January 20, 2018 11:02 AM  

You'll notice they NEVER make or show movies/media any longer that DO show grown men acting like men!

They don't have manly looking men anywhere. Kevin Sorbo said he couldn't get jobs in Hollywood because he is a Christian but he was too buff for jews to show as a white guy. Henry Rollins should have been a major star also instead of pasta arm Tom Hanks.

Blogger rainman January 20, 2018 11:09 AM  

@15 Damn that's a depressing thought. I would have thought Hollywood would have run them out on a rail after the colossal failure of Jupiter Rising. Love how they went from the Wachowski brothers, to just "the Wachowskis" to "the Wachowski sisters". A tragedy in 3 acts

Anonymous Rfvujm January 20, 2018 11:10 AM  


It has a lot to do with the feminine social imperative today. Date rape is always a man's fault. The woman gets everything in the divorce. The mother is the head of a household. A woman must always be believed. Mother's Day vs Father's Day. Every father on television is an idiot. Masculinity is toxic. Women only earn 72% of what men earn, and it's men's fault.

Men today are socialized to be betas, to submit to women. So maybe if they just take some hormones and chop their penis off, they can be at the top of the social ladder.

Anonymous Cyclone Bob January 20, 2018 12:06 PM  

You wish [it's the Nolans].

Why so Sergius? Christian Bale is prepping to wear the batsuit again.

Blogger Ceerilan January 20, 2018 12:17 PM  

So, what you're saying in the OP is there will soon be a Warner Bros. size opening in the movie market for Alt-Right the movie studio?

Blogger Ingot9455 January 20, 2018 12:38 PM  

@21 Remember, in Hollywood you fail up.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 20, 2018 1:00 PM  

I'm in favor of whatever gives Gal Gadot's butt more screen time.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 20, 2018 1:02 PM  


Anonymous Simon in London January 20, 2018 1:02 PM  

@16 >>(Or is it just the estrogenic compounds in EVERYTHING (drugs, food, air, water!) around us?!)<<

I seriously worry about this re my young son's development. It seems like he was more macho as a lean 3-4 year old (breast fed until 2, and baby food) than as an overweight 10 year old eating junk food and drinking soda, at least when I'm not around. And his school has him coming home singing & dancing to "YMCA"! Reminds me of Bobby in King of the Hill. I told him the Village People are gay and not to do that...

Blogger tublecane January 20, 2018 2:30 PM  

@16-There's a phenomenon called Flight from White, wherein borderline cases run from being identified as white. In the past, if you were a quadroon or an octaroon, or even a halfsie, you'd say, "Black, what black? I'm not black. Hey, I know, let's go lynch somebody!"

Now, you identify as Other if you heard a rumor that your great-great grandma once winked at a brotha.

(There are still fake whites, but they tend to be you-know-who playing the "Hello, fellow white people" game.)

There may be a similar Flight from Male, I dunno.

Two other reasons why you'd see more males than female trannies: firstly, men, evem ones without you-know-what, are more ambitious and more likely to get themselves into the spotlight. Secondly, males have this sexual fetish I don't know exists among females driving them, called "autogynophilia."

Blogger tublecane January 20, 2018 2:43 PM  

@10-Hollywood must still be adept at the special effect extravaganzas if they can interest what I assume are are heterosexual men on this thread in the butt of the decidedly masculine Gal Gal Gadot.

Homos in the fashion industry keep picking them, and Hollywood keeps passing them off as feminine. Wouldn't it give them less work to pick beautiful women in the first place.

Check her out in a movie that's not a special effects bonanza, Keeping up with the Jonses. She does a scene in a dressing room in lingerie, and I could swear it was a man.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 20, 2018 3:00 PM  

Have to agree with tublecane, flat ass, no hips, "It's a man, baby!"

Blogger eharmonica January 20, 2018 3:52 PM  

Gadot is lovely from the neck up. The rest is the usual scrawny look that Hollywood likes. Nicole Kidman, Emma Stone, et al.

Blogger tublecane January 20, 2018 3:57 PM  

@32-She has masculine features, too. Fashion models aren't picked by accident, you known

Blogger eharmonica January 20, 2018 4:09 PM  

I think we can all agree that she's got great hair.

Blogger Anne January 20, 2018 7:56 PM  


Blogger Thucydides January 20, 2018 10:06 PM  

SJW's are practically handing things over to Vox on a platter, as befitting a Dark Lord. Given the sort of time frames of SJW convergence, collapsing revenues, feeding off the accumulated seed corn etc., predicting there will be a Warner sized hole ready for an Alt-Right studio or entity to fill seems spot on, and if Arkhaven grows at the rate being predicted, then the "who" moves into the spot seems pretty self evident.

As for Marvel, some news I'm sure won't surprise anyone (but the writeup is hilarious):

Best line: "Low sales led to their cancellation just as an entirely new audience was sure to hear about the books, specifically because of their being nominated for GLAAD awards and other honors."

Yes, that "entirely new audience" is just around the corner, waiting.........

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