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Saturday, February 03, 2018

I'll take "things that will never happen"

It's amusing to see SF-SJW Foz Meadows running around demanding apologies from everyone who believed zher legal spouse is Camestros Felapton. Now, of course I can understand even such a visually repellent, talentless creature as Foz taking massive offense at being accused of having sufficiently low standards as to engage in any form of congress, be it marital or otherwise, with Felapton, but then, Foz is an unrepentant liar who doesn't merit apologies from anyone for anything. Who gives a quantum of a damn what Foz wants, expects, appreciates, or demands?
Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
Related to all the recent Puppy kerfuffle, I would like the record to note that @davefreersf, a self-professed Sad Puppy, has unequivocally admitted that siccing Vox Day on someone is a tactic meant to cause "serious harm" to the target.

Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
Replying to @fozmeadows
Like. There's been so many occasions when I've had Sad Puppy acolytes in my mentions frothing about how VD and the Rabid Puppies are a TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND UNRELATED THING TO THEM and how DARE I suggest that the Sads be held in any way accountable for the Rabids!

Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
I would also like to note that while, as far as I know, Freer didn't email VD about my husband being Camestros - a falsehood now acknowledged as such by @LouAntonelli - VD has nonetheless run with Freer and Antonelli's original claims on his blog.

Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
Replying to @fozmeadows
I won't subject anyone here to quotes from the salient comment thread on VD's blog; sufficed to there's a fucktonne of homophobic abuse directed at me, plus the odd wish for physical violence, and my husband's workplace being disparaged as an institution. So, you know. The usual.

Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
What I will say is that, in the event Dave Freer *does* admit he was wrong & that my husband isn't Camestros, I won't be accepting any apology he might make. His gross, homophobic speculation about my marriage & identity, & his slander of my husband, was always a separate issue.

Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
Replying to @fozmeadows
None of what Freer has said about my personal life is excused or justified by his belief that Toby is Camestros. It has literally nothing to do with anything, and not only has he doubled down on it multiple times, he has actively encouraged others to speculate, too.

Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
The only type of apology I'll even *consider* accepting from Freer is one that involves an admission of homophobia, an acknowledgement that none of his personal comments were either correct or appropriate, and a pledge to actively educate himself. Anything less is meaningless.

Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
Replying to @fozmeadows
Regardless of whether he does that, however - and I rather suspect he won't - the absolute fucking LEAST he can do, as per Antonelli, is to acknowledge that he was wrong in thinking Toby was Camestros, and to apologise TO EVERYONE for spreading the lie.

Foz Meadows@fozmeadows
I'd also appreciate a similar apology from Brad Torgersen. I have zero expectation of Vox Day doing anything remotely conciliatory or charitable, but I'll do Torgersen the kindness of assuming him capable of admitting error.
First of all, no one sics me on anyone. I act as I see fit. I am more than happy to publicly deride that wretched creature and I will continue to do so until zhe either a) dies or b) publicly retracts all of zher claims that I am a Nazi or other derivation thereof.

Second, I am confident that I speak for everyone when I say that I am truly and deeply relieved to hear that Foz Meadows is not married to Camestros Felaptron. Sweet St. Darwin, what if those two had spawned? The human race may be in genetic decline, but that's one evolutionary branch we really don't need to explore. Shades of Innsmouth, anyone?

Third, Dave Freer didn't sic me on anyone about anything. I don't recall having any communication with him in years. I just checked my email and I haven't received even a single email from him since I set up my current machine in April 2016. Nor have I spoken to him.

But I require no apologies. Foz should instead be apologizing to the entire human gene pool for whatever horrific accident of evolution or malevolent fate led to zher existence.

UPDATE: This comment at File 770 from Laura Resnick was particularly funny.
I took a look at the VD post and comments Ms. Meadows references… and, yep, I can see why she chose not to link to it. Very ugly and bigoted—gosh, contain your shocked surprise. And, as always, you could search high and low, far and wide, without finding people stupider than VD and his blog followers. The absence of intelligent life there seems almost scientifically astounding.
Classic midwit posturing. Resnick is a mediocre fantasy writer who can't even figure out how to stop stuffing her fat face, but that's not going to stop her from trying to strike a laughable pose as an intellectual superior to literally everyone here.

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59 Comments:

Anonymous Brick Hardslab February 03, 2018 7:54 PM  

Isn't Foz a guy? One x, one y chromosome.

Anonymous Anonymous February 03, 2018 7:55 PM  

The human race may be in genetic decline, but that's one evolutionary branch we really don't need to explore. Shades of Innsmouth, anyone?

"Shades of Innsmouth" --- now that was funny as hell. I wonder how many of the trolls, SJWs, and other crazies will have to do a web search on "Innsmouth".

(note I don't use the normal term -- the evil place that does searches)

Blogger Lazarus February 03, 2018 7:55 PM  

This is unconscionable. As a member of the human gene pool , I am deeply offended by the existence of Foz Meadows , and I formally demand a deep, heart felt apology.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm is More Than Twenty Cents February 03, 2018 8:21 PM  

Too bad Foz is having second thoughts about zir marriage to Camestros. Everyone should be encouraged to rally round them in this time and send lots of advice on how to repair their relationship. This should be done on as many social media platforms as possible. Because we care.

Blogger Zaklog the Great February 03, 2018 8:21 PM  

Hmmm, do we have any actual proof of this "abuse" or is it the Sarkeesian kind of abuse that exists because she says it does and how dare you doubt her, you sexist!

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume February 03, 2018 8:28 PM  

I thought Foz had more a Dunwich Horror thing going myself.

Anonymous Just another commenter February 03, 2018 8:43 PM  

The only part of that word salad that makes any sense at all is the last one, with a very lame attempt at "divide and conquer" isolation by saying semi-nice things about Brad hoping to create something that can be hyped as a "split".

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 03, 2018 8:51 PM  

I think an apology to Felapton is in order. Although he is a giant faggot, even giant faggots have standards, and accusing him of any form of linkage with Mr Meadows is slander per se.

Blogger Lazarus February 03, 2018 8:53 PM  

Has Felaptron denied the connection yet?

Anonymous kfg February 03, 2018 8:59 PM  

Oh come on, I don't think he's all that bad looking, for a midshipman.

Blogger Pseudotsuga February 03, 2018 8:59 PM  

I had no idea what Mr. Torgerson had done to harsh Foz's mellow, but I think I found it:

And Foz identifies as "genderqueer," which means that hshe retains the right to yell at you for not correctly referring to the correct "gender" hshe identifies with at this moment. So, man and woman or neither, but hshe gets to choose, at each moment, which grammatical concept refers to himher. You can't ever win this power struggle, het-cis-norms... but that's the point.

Blogger pyrrhus February 03, 2018 9:00 PM  

Speaking of SJWs always doubling down....Jet's QB suddenly "socially aware"..https://www.yahoo.com/sports/moment-nfl-didnt-stick-sports-3-rare-voices-emerge-social-movement-discussion-153403107.html

Blogger Pseudotsuga February 03, 2018 9:01 PM  

Oops...I think something ate my link, or my fumble fingers botched the HTML.
What Torgerson wrote:
https://madgeniusclub.com/2018/01/21/camestros-felapton-is-toby-meadows-spouse-of-foz-meadows/

Blogger Matthew February 03, 2018 9:09 PM  

Foz is a stupid name, no matter whether the possessor dimples or dangles.

Blogger Zaklog the Great February 03, 2018 9:12 PM  

SJW walks into a McDonald's:

Hi, could I get a double cheeseburger?

Would you like fries with that?

Help! Help! I'm being harassed! And probably microaggressed!

Anonymous Son of Bane February 03, 2018 9:27 PM  

To be fair, foz and Laura are probably smarter than Vox Populi 2017-18. It’s been downhill for a while Vox.

Blogger lowercaseb February 03, 2018 9:27 PM  

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Anonymous BBGKB February 03, 2018 9:31 PM  

Although he is a giant faggot, even giant faggots have standards

Fee Fie Foe Fum, speaking as a giant faggot, we get away with far higher standards then our lesser kin.


OT: Superbowl death
Lawyer who said Superbowl rigged shot dead.
https://prepareforchange.net/2018/02/01/nfl-lawyer-claimed-super-bowl-rigged-found-dead/

Blogger Lovekraft February 03, 2018 9:34 PM  

Meanwhile in the real world, reflecting the brutal realities on the ground (a comment from heartiste's blog sums it up):

"A Nigerian illegal kills and dismembers a beautiful 18 years old Italian girl
An Italian fascist retaliates in a drive by shooting wounding 6+ turd world invaders"

Blogger VD February 03, 2018 9:42 PM  

To be fair, foz and Laura are probably smarter than Vox Populi 2017-18. It’s been downhill for a while Vox.

Not anywhere nearly that far downhill. We'd still have to slide a long way to get that far down. And that's what happens when you go from 3,000 pageviews a day to 146,000. If your site is growing by an order of magnitude or more, then the average IQ is almost guaranteed to be in decline.

But that doesn't mean that the average must dictate the discourse.

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum February 03, 2018 9:45 PM  

smarter than Vox Populi 2017-18

Yes, but can they spell it.

Blogger GithYankee February 03, 2018 10:06 PM  

LOL that rip on Resnick. She writes total tripe and ONLY has/had a career because of her midlist father. So glad I don't have to pretend to like these people anymore, although I will still admit to owning some CJ Cherryh that I think are defensible.

Anonymous Just another commenter February 03, 2018 10:07 PM  

@19 - Italians are known for their knife-work, not marksmanship. Heart's in the right place, but either hit the range or change weapons.

Related OT: what would happen in Italy if the mafia decided the darker newcomers needed to go home or disappear? Would the Italian government apologize?

Blogger Ceerilan February 03, 2018 10:11 PM  

Laura Reznick confirms every liberal argument must contain at least one of: "my enemies are Nazis", "people who disagree with the narrative are stupid", and "your argument is shocking".

Can you please at least make things interesting by inventing new arguments?

Blogger SteelPalm February 03, 2018 10:18 PM  

Second, I am confident that I speak for everyone when I say that I am truly and deeply relieved to hear that Foz Meadows is not married to Camestros Felaptron. Sweet St. Darwin, what if those two had spawned? The human race may be in genetic decline, but that's one evolutionary branch we really don't need to explore. Shades of Innsmouth, anyone?

This is one of the funniest paragraphs I've ever read on your blog, Vox.

Blogger J Van Stry February 03, 2018 10:36 PM  

I honestly don't understand why she's going after Dave. He never outed Toby, he just said in a comment that he knew it was Toby and just moved on. His only mention of Vox was to say that if he were going to cause Toby problems, he would have told Vox.

I mean, don't these people have any reading comprehension?

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum February 03, 2018 10:47 PM  

I mean, don't these people have any reading comprehension?

I've just lived this. They read just like you and I do. But they are terminally committed to taking offense whether or not reason exists.

Blogger tublecane February 03, 2018 10:56 PM  

"can't even figure out how to stop stuffing her fat face"

Now, now, some brilliant men were fat: David Hume, St. Thomas Aquinas.

Overeating is a good indicator of moral defect and weak will. It also correlates at least in relatively wealthy societies like ours with low intelligence. But not always so.

I don't know why I mention this, except I happened to be thinking of Hume recently.

Blogger Stilicho February 03, 2018 11:08 PM  

You know how strange creatures live around the hot vents of undersea volcanoes? I suspect that the sf-sjw subspecies only spawn in the warm water surrounding one of Cthulhu's farts as it rises to the surface. It would explain a lot.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 03, 2018 11:09 PM  

I'm going to take a guess Vox had a pretty good evening. He's on fine form with taking skulls.

Blogger Danby February 03, 2018 11:10 PM  

J Van Stry wrote:I honestly don't understand why she's going after Dave.
She thinks she might be able to make him feel bad, or fear for his career. I mean, what would be th point of going after Vox, or Torgerson, whose market exceeds her entire wing in the SFWA by an order of magnitude. Neither one of them is going to apologize. She's hoping Dave is less experienced or more fragile and will feel forced to apologize.

Blogger tublecane February 03, 2018 11:30 PM  

@2-Lovecraft has been unpersoned. Knowledge of him is crimethink.

Only those who have eaten of the fruit of the Tree of Forbidden Knowledge-"Nazis," they're called--catch such references.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky February 03, 2018 11:47 PM  

I don't care what Foz denies. I'll believe it when I see it.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 03, 2018 11:52 PM  

Are you sure Resnick is female?

"Isn't Foz a guy?"

Or a eunuch. I have neither knowledge nor desire for it in that regard.

"To be fair"

Oh look, it's Liar of Profane, poop incarnate. Don't touch the poop, folks.

"Now, now, some brilliant men"

Irrelevant. She's fat and not male.

Blogger jimmy_the_freak February 03, 2018 11:53 PM  

LOL GAY!!!

Blogger Zimri February 04, 2018 12:04 AM  

"OT: Superbowl death
Lawyer who said Superbowl rigged shot dead."

You are a liar, Big Gay. A liar.

That is fake news and didn't happen.

Blogger Jack Amok February 04, 2018 12:24 AM  

Is Laura Resnick the wretched bint who threw her own father under the SF-SJW Feminist Bus a while back?

Anonymous Pale male February 04, 2018 12:38 AM  

Just another commenter wrote:Related OT: what would happen in Italy if the mafia decided the darker newcomers needed to go home or disappear? Would the Italian government apologize?
Nobody would care what the government did, only what the darkies did.  Leave, die... all the same.  The nearest border is six feet away (downward).

Blogger Jon D. February 04, 2018 1:41 AM  

Foz called me a white supremacist. Xher is a caricature of xher's movement, whatever it is they stand for... or rather whatever it is they're shockingly outraged by this news cycle.

Blogger YIH February 04, 2018 2:43 AM  

Zimri wrote:"OT: Superbowl death

Lawyer who said Superbowl rigged shot dead."

You are a liar, Big Gay. A liar.

That is fake news and didn't happen.

I repeat what I said in a previous thread: It simply isn't possible to ''kayfabe'' a live football game. Too many variables. Let's say ''the script'' calls for an 8 yard draw play, yet the running back gets to the line and trips over another player's foot. It comes up short, now what? It's live, there's no ''cut! take two!''. Suddenly ''the script'' has to be revised - 'on the fly'.
''Fake'' works for the WWE because there's really only two actors in action nearly all of the time - plus it's indoors, and no troublesome ball involved that could come out of someone's hands for countless reasons.
Could the lawyer have been whacked anyway? Sure, why not? But I ain't buying that there was any ''script'' that he got to see.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 04, 2018 3:25 AM  

latest tweet from Childless Weirdo Foz

where is my queer romcom starring Jason Momoa as a hot, smart mechanic wooing a snarky professor with a bad car played by Oscar Isaac

Yeah that's just going to burn up the boxoffice. I feel bad for Oscar Isaacs. He's been targeted. They are not going to leave him alone until they get some dude on dude action out of him.

Blogger tublecane February 04, 2018 4:36 AM  

Entire games can't be fake, but individuals can and do put their thumbs on the scale, so to speak. Refs are in a position not to determine the outcome, and certainly not to follow a script. But they can fabor this side or that.

There's a reason gamblers pay players to shave points: because it works. That's about the spread, but it works for who wins the game, too. And it could work to keep the contest close and interesting.

Which isn't exactly kayfabe, but isn't real, either.

Blogger The Kurgan February 04, 2018 5:04 AM  

a) dies
The dark lord is kind. Notice how he would not mock the dead. Truly he is misunderstood.

Anonymous Ronin February 04, 2018 5:09 AM  

"Not anywhere nearly that far downhill. We'd still have to slide a long way to get that far down. And that's what happens when you go from 3,000 pageviews a day to 146,000. If your site is growing by an order of magnitude or more, then the average IQ is almost guaranteed to be in decline."

The same argument could be made about the decline in Western Civilization. Whites are the victims of their own success. The civilization and cities built and maintained by previous generations of whites led to greater and greater amounts of whites who statistically along the Bell Curve were going to have low IQs and be easy dupes for government depredations and brainwashing thus the leftard/progressive increased in number whereas in earlier times they would have been culled due to their idiocy and poor physicality. Even white civilization can only handle so many leftard/progressive/"white niggers" as can be seen in real time. The movie Idiocracy was not that far off on how the process takes place though it appears the movie gets the natural conclusions wrong, the society will probably end in a very destructive way not a decaying dystopia limping along that's semi technological/ morally bankrupt and filled with idiots, that's the best case scenario which isn't likely.

Anonymous Ronin February 04, 2018 5:46 AM  

The leftard/progressive/"white nigger" teamed up or I should say brainwashed the nigger via their very slight IQ advantage over niggers to gain a statistical demographic advantage over their normal white brethren. This helped them maintain and increase their hegemony in the US urban centers. But due to the dynamics of economics,taxes and government debt play the leftard/progressives advantage has been weakening, coupled with the fact that the leftard/progressive has no plan for demographic improvement beyond brainwashing normies via public schooling and importing more leftard voters from other shitholes, thus the heavy reliance on the hispanic vote.

The hispanic voter is the only way the leftard/progressive/"white nigger" stays alive politically partly due to the fact Mexicans are breeders, Mexico City is the largest city in the world and partly due the fact Mexicants are left leaning despite normie confusion regarding "Catholism" in hispanic culture.

It's obvious what the White right needs to do to put the leftard/progressive/"white nigger" away for good or for at least several generations. Stop the beaner invasion. Remember the Alamo.

Anonymous Ronin February 04, 2018 6:01 AM  

"The leftard/progressive/"white nigger" teamed up or I should say brainwashed the nigger via their very slight IQ advantage over niggers to gain a statistical demographic advantage over their normal white brethren."

The leftard/white progressive had to do this due to the fact of them having a disadvantage IQ wise compared to most whites, they also are obviously morally worse off than their higher IQ white brethren as well. As VD has noted evil and stupid are redundancies like saying water is wet, they are two sides of the same coin. So the left resorted to a token alliance/master-slave relationship with blacks to overcome their lack of goodness and IQ.

Anonymous Ronin February 04, 2018 6:08 AM  

"The wise woman builds her house, But the foolish tears it down with her own hands."Proverbs 14:1

The fool/idiot in that verse is the white left.

Blogger Lovekraft February 04, 2018 9:14 AM  

Several mentions of HPL in this thread, probably because he describes degenerate sub-species plotting the overthrow of civil society.

Which is why I mention here the Alan Moore 12-parter "Providence" and want to bring those of you up to speed on what it's proposing. Here goes:

Gay tribesman seeks some meaning after his gay lover commits suicide by first hearing about some obscure occultist. Visits him, which leads to one source, then another etc, further leading this naive and amoral man into the depths of insanity. He's actually revealed in the book's version of the N'con as the one who will spark HPL's writing.

TLDR: Moore posits that fiction can shape our reality. That ages-old conspiracy cabals have been working to do this. That the spiritual battle for everything that holds society together is real. That resisting the SJW degeneracy is more than a power struggle. Much more. When the Bible speaks of taking up the mantle of battle, it's not speaking lightly. Gird thyselves, and all that.

Blogger Ray Mota February 04, 2018 10:44 AM  

When "stupid" is all you got, you fling stupid "poo". But, HEY, VD "stupid" BWHAHAHAHAHA

Blogger GK Chesterton February 04, 2018 2:06 PM  

What is the new drama? I know that there was an SF writer who was believed to be married to someone at a university in I believe NZ. I have not followed it since then.

Anonymous lawyer guy February 04, 2018 2:37 PM  

Been a lawyer a long time.

Even so, sometimes I read Vox's posts and figure "This time he is making it up and yanking our chains". Then I click around and he isn't lying.

There are some seriously damaged people in scifi, gaming, and comics. For some reason 99% of the time they are on the far left--the 1% being Heinlein and his sickening desire to have sex with young relatives.

Blogger Danby February 04, 2018 3:52 PM  

lawyer guy wrote:99% of the time they are on the far left--the 1% being Heinlein and his sickening desire to have sex with young relatives.
Heinlein was NEVER of the Right. EVER. Nothing he ever wrote was Rightist. Nothing he ever said was Rightist. Nothing he ever did was Rightist.
Gaddamn Libertarians have been calling Heinlein Right and you people believed them.

Cite ONE SINGLE opinion, social or political, of Heinlein's that was of the Right.

Blogger Robert What? February 04, 2018 8:32 PM  

What's wrong with being a Nazi?

Blogger tublecane February 04, 2018 9:33 PM  

Nazis destroyed their nation, for one thing. Got their women mass-raped, the eastern portion chopped off, the rest split in two, occupation for generations, and very nearly genocide.

Blogger Thucydides February 05, 2018 1:28 AM  

I stupidly referenced the people mentioned in the OP. I was far better off living in ignorance. While forewarned is forearmed, there are limits.....

Blogger VD February 05, 2018 5:32 AM  

What's wrong with being a Nazi?

Everything except the uniforms.

Anonymous lpdbw February 05, 2018 9:36 AM  

@56 Vox wins the internet today, and it's not even 9:00 AM yet.

Anonymous Mathias February 05, 2018 2:09 PM  

@56,

Surely you forgot the Autobahn, but I imagine if you cede that point it will turn into a rather dadaist interpretation of a Monty Python skit.

Blogger Robert What? February 05, 2018 7:06 PM  

Oh thanks. That helps.

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