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Sunday, February 25, 2018

The skinsuit comes off

CPAC is now the Holocaust, if longtime "conservative" columnist Mona Charen is to be believed:
A conservative columnist was escorted out of the Conservative Political Action Conference on Saturday after slamming President Trump and conservatives for behaving like "hypocrites" when it comes to women's issues.... Declining to mention Trump by name, Charen said conservatives are guilty of "look[ing] the other way" when it comes to the president and other Republican men who have faced allegations of sexual misconduct.

"This was a party that was ready to ... endorse Roy Moore for Senate in the state of Alabama even though he was a credibly accused child molester," Charen said. "You cannot claim that you stand for women, and put up with that," she told the crowd, as several members of the audience shouted, "Not true!"

Charen's comments were met with heavy boos inside the conference hall, and she was later spotted leaving the conference with a three-person security detail. Earlier on in the panel, she issued a strong rebuke of Marion Le Pen, the niece of former French right-wing presidential candidate Marine Le Pen, whose own appearance at CPAC drew scrutiny from some conservatives who have accused her of enabling far-right groups with racist views.

"There was quite an interesting person who was on this stage the other day. Her name is Marion Le Pen," Charen told the crowd, suggesting Le Pen was only invited because of her surname.

"And the Le Pen name is a disgrace," she added. "Her grandfather is racist and a Nazi. She claims that she stands for him. And the fact that CPAC invited her is a disgrace," Charen said.
No, the fact that the likes of Charen were ever taken at face value as conservatives, as Republicans, or as Americans is ludicrous. One of the things that will be hardest for many longtime conservatives to accept as identity politics increasingly rise to the fore is the realization that about one-third of their long-time "opinion leaders" are not, and were never, on their side. Just as those "opinion leaders" have done, conservatives are going to have to make a choice between being pro-American and pro-Christian, and being globalist and philosemitic. The "creedal nation of immigrants with Judeo-Christian values upheld by the Zeroth Amendment" dodge is now finally understood to be the anti-American propaganda that it was from the start.

If you look at my columns dating back to 2001, one glaring omission that you may notice now is how, with the exception of Jonah Goldberg, there is no praise for, or quoting of, an entire subset of leading conservative columnists. Nor did I ever call myself a conservative or a Republican. It was always obvious to me, even at the time, that Ms Charen's interest group that somehow happened to be remarkably overrepresented in the "conservative media" reliably put self-interest above ideology and operated in a shamelessly nepotistic fashion.

Remember, I was there when the Littlest Chickenhawk was a supposed child prodigy playing violin and regurgitating mainstream Republican talking points. I saw how he was nationally syndicated by Creator's Syndicate despite not being one of the 20 most-read columnists on WND, and how those columns were picked up by big city newspaper editors around the country while mine, 4x more popular and syndicated by the much more respected Universal Press Syndicate, were not. I even commented, 13 years ago, that it was very strange how more than one-fifth of the nominally "conservative media" happened to be members of the group that was the second-most inclined to the Democratic Party and only represented 0.68 percent of the Republican voters in 2000. Once more, pattern recognition proves more reliable than experts and credentials.

As Bill Kristol, Ben Shapiro, Mona Charen, and various others have now made abundantly clear, they were intended to be a leash on conservative nationalism all along. And now that conservatives across the West are waking up to the Big Con and are wisely choosing their nations over anti-Western globalist interests, they are going to have to deal with the fact that they are going to be attacked as Hitlers and Nazis and Holocausts just like Brexit, AfD, La Lega, Viktor Orban, Donald Trump, Marion Le Pen, and every other individual who stands up to defend America, Christianity, and the West.

Because the "conservative Republican" Mona Charens of the world are against all three.

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83 Comments:

Blogger Rocklea Marina February 25, 2018 6:49 AM  

All they have is a horseshoe argument against unstoppable, growing,youthful nationalism. Time to go back home.

OpenID markstoval February 25, 2018 7:00 AM  

"... And now that conservatives across the West are waking up to the Big Con ..."

Conservatives have often been mislead just as you say. I sure do hope you are correct and that many conservatives are waking up to the big con job.

I have always resisted the label "conservative". I prefer "far-right" or ancap. I give more respect to those people who can see that the big government is NOT your friend.

When the various nations were hammered into a modern "nation-state" began mankind's worst experiment. Please God, let many see how wrong we have been.

Blogger Howard Stone February 25, 2018 7:03 AM  

I heard Chickens!t host a show for Mark Levin about a week out from the Alabama senate election. He spent most of the show attacking Roy Moore. Yeah he’s a bait a switch kinda guy.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club February 25, 2018 7:18 AM  

Still get a lot of thing like "Let's focus on the Left, and save the circular fire for some other time. This battle requires a united front" whenever the spineless buffoonery of the True Conservatives™ is pointed out.

I don't know what could be a "Saul falls off his ass" moment for those who believe that people who declare they're on your side only to get a good shot at your back aren't a serious problem.

Blogger VD February 25, 2018 7:23 AM  

Still get a lot of thing like "Let's focus on the Left, and save the circular fire for some other time. This battle requires a united front" whenever the spineless buffoonery of the True Conservatives™ is pointed out.

To which the example of Gideon and his 300 provides sufficient rebuttal. We don't need them on our side because they are not on our side. They are an enemy that has infiltrated our lines. They are enemies of God and Jesus Christ, they are liars, and they are the servants of the Father of Lies.

What fellowship can we have with them?

Blogger The Observer February 25, 2018 7:31 AM  

From IG:

"Charen usually writes about foreign policy, terrorism, politics, and culture. She regularly writes about her Jewish faith..."

Why, I am SO surprised.

Blogger Howard Stone February 25, 2018 7:35 AM  

Condoleeza just came about shilling for globalists. These people are master deceivers, in fact they consider deception a virtue. So, good ol Conny says that we need to reconsider the role of the second amendment in the modern world. That’s right, the role that our nations second amendment plays in the “world”.

But here is where she gets really creepy good at her double speak though. She says, we can’t throw away the second amendment and keep the first.

Now, this statement was interpreted as her being in support of the 2nd amendment. But hold one, and here is what this is all about, she basically gave away the globalists intentions here, they like to flaunt there plans in plain sight.

One interpretation of her statement very well could be that they are going after the 2nd amendment, so they can then take away the first. Freedom of speech and religion.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira February 25, 2018 7:41 AM  

You think that's bad? In Ontario, our "Conservative" party is called the "Progressive Conservatives". *barf*

Blogger The Cooler February 25, 2018 7:49 AM  

Boomers and their bizarre philosemitic fetish can't die soon enough. It's what props-up the whole psychological edifice of 'Conservatism'.

Mmmmmmuuuhhhhh ISRAEL. It's the 51st State to these people.

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 25, 2018 8:12 AM  

But here is where she gets really creepy good at her double speak though. She says, we can’t throw away the second amendment and keep the first.

My own view is that they are trying to Cuck-down the base meme of "The Second Amendment is More Important Than the First."

Cuck-down is a new term I just invented and I think we need a better one but you get the drift of it. The Conservatives have been cucking-down our more popular memees since... Good lord, I can't think of a time they haven't.

Blogger GithYankee February 25, 2018 8:12 AM  

I wish everyone could read Vox's columns from about 2005. The second book of essays. That's what really let me know I was dealing with an intellect. Vox was calling out feminists and muslims as allies before Obama was President, ten years before Conservative Inc even noticed. Those columns hold up extremely well - if you've been on the fence, each essay is about a five minute read and contains the perfect mix of military news, sports comments, leftist lunacy, conservative bumbling. Really good

Blogger Lazarus February 25, 2018 8:24 AM  

@7

All part of the "16 Year Plan to Destroy America"

This was supposed to be year 10, but for TRUMP, which THEY consider a mere road bump. That is why people like Kerry and Soros ensure foreign leaders that TRUMP will be gone in a year.

You should get your own copy of the plan so that if the globalists win, you could impress your friends by predicting the future.

Blogger Lazarus February 25, 2018 8:26 AM  

Cuck-down is a new term I just invented and I think we need a better one but you get the drift of it.

Cuckify?

CuckSpeak?

Blogger McChuck February 25, 2018 8:26 AM  

Andrew Klavan, supposed American, supposed conservative, supposed convert to Christianity, still refers, on a regular basis, to "my people, the Jews."

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 25, 2018 8:28 AM  

The interchangeable gentile and noble loser bits are about used up IMO.

And before the 1488ers go into their spiel I hope someone of some heft politely tells Mona to renounce her whiteness and then go to work healing the people of color.

Blogger Looking Glass February 25, 2018 8:29 AM  

@14 McChuck

A Jewish convert to Christianity would still be "Jewish" in the cultural & genetic sense. See the Apostle Paul and dealing with the issues. Or the Book of James for the nastier problems.

Blogger Lovekraft February 25, 2018 8:30 AM  

@11 GithYankee: I second that, but in my case it was over at blog "In Mala Fide" where he came in like a thunderbolt and pushed me to the next level. Still grateful.

@3 Howard Stone: hearing Shapiro talk at CPAC about the need to keep Truth prominent, then continues to push the 'Roy Moore is a pedo, case closed' narrative. No, I don't think Moore's defeat was based on truth. Another thing I'm noticing is faux-right used 'Judeo-Christian' to lump positive Christian attributes in with them, but suddenly drop it and only use "Christian" when there is a negative connotation (Sam Harris did this recently).

re: this Mona. I think of toadking Weinstein who was married, yet still forced himself on women. I can't wait for this veil to be lifted: why do these women fail so that their husbands seek pleasure outside of their marriage? We know the answer, brothers, but it should still be advanced.

Blogger Uncle John's Band February 25, 2018 8:33 AM  

Interesting. Noticing usually brings some heat. Let's see if the "gifted verbal IQ" set presents more of a challenge than deceivers past.

Blogger Howard Stone February 25, 2018 8:36 AM  

In the past few days I’ve heard people ask why go after guns, what are they planning that would be so bad they’d need to disarm us for it. Well, they’re planning a lot I’m sure, but the end game is to stop the preaching of the Gospel. The books of Ephesians warns us of the wickedness in high places. 2016 exposes that wickedness, and these false flags continue to do so. But stopping the preaching of the Gospel in the world is what it all boils down to, but before they can do that, they must destroy U.S. one of the last and strongest defenders of the Christian faith, topple U.S. and all other pro-Christian nations (what few remain) will follow, but first they go after what defines our nation, the constitution, our basic rights particularly the 1st and 2nd ammendments, but they need to take the 2nd and the 1st will follow just as good ol Conny expounded so eloquently for us.

Blogger VD February 25, 2018 8:36 AM  

A Jewish convert to Christianity would still be "Jewish" in the cultural & genetic sense.

Genetics don't change. But if you're still culturally Jewish, and the Jews are your people, then you are not culturally American and Americans are not your people.

This isn't that hard.

That being said, I am told that Klavan is a genuinely good man who is on the right side and he has made the most important transition, which concerns his position on Jesus Christ. Always give more credence to what a man does and how he lives than to a specific quote or two. Identity complications are always create problems for the observer.

Blogger Looking Glass February 25, 2018 8:37 AM  

@17 Lovekraft

The "claim the good things/reject the "bad" things" is the staple post-Enlightenment Era play. It's how they went about craving out the Leftist Religion within Christianity. "Good things" suddenly spawn from ideology and not praxis, and they've kept pushing it ever since. That the Jewish faction of the Fake Right does it doesn't surprise me. It's a standard approach since no one will kill them for it.

Blogger The Pepe report February 25, 2018 8:38 AM  

She likes nice obedient cream puffs like Cruz. None of this thinking for yourself stuff and questioning things that Trump tries to pull.

Blogger tz February 25, 2018 8:49 AM  

@13 They're members of the Cooing Cucks Clan.

Going Forward, they are calling all of us Nazis and Racists anyway, but the magic spell is broken and is actually rebounding.

Though NAJALT

Also what happened to the "Better dead than rude" (as Derbyshire coined) policy? Not at CPAC. Or The Conservative Case for giving in - oh, not to Trump, Nationalism, or Populism.

Purim is next week

Here's how the Jews avoided Haman's genocide:

Esther 8:11

The king’s edict granted the Jews in every city the right to assemble and protect themselves; to destroy, kill and annihilate the armed men of any nationality or province who might attack them and their women and children, and to plunder the property of their enemies.

Blogger The Pepe report February 25, 2018 8:53 AM  

The problem is she and those like her force their voice and their will on the American people... their voice and their will does not and should never again supercede the voice and the will of the American people as i believe it did in Alabama .

Blogger Shimshon February 25, 2018 9:06 AM  

@23 That's not how the Jews avoided genocide. How did the king's edict granting the Jews the right do that come about? And, Purim is this week.

Blogger The Pepe report February 25, 2018 9:08 AM  

Might as well make one nice comment about her.I think she is very intelligent.

Blogger YIH February 25, 2018 9:13 AM  

@7
Condoleeza just came about shilling for globalists
Condosleeza is a thinly-veiled 0bumbles. On some political show in about '04 someone asked her ''What if democracy doesn't work out in Iraq?'' she immediately hissed ''raciss!''. Of course, history has proven who was right and who was African. Yet because Shrub made her SecDef (not because she was qualified, of course, the only place where Africans have to be qualified is in sports) she's become a darling of con inc.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd February 25, 2018 9:15 AM  

Those are really extraordinary. It's very interesting discovering how any intellectual figure develops his thought over time, especially when it's derived from logic and history, which is a rarity at this phase of our decline. Wish I had known about them when they were new.
There are a hundred different points you can make about those early essays, but I'll save that for my own blog in the future. Really, the intellectual development of this sector of the counter-culture is more impressive than anything being done in academia, at least in the humanities.

OpenID qualitycontrol1 February 25, 2018 9:16 AM  

"That being said, I am told that Klavan is a genuinely good man who is on the right side and he has made the most important transition, which concerns his position on Jesus Christ. Always give more credence to what a man does and how he lives than to a specific quote or two. Identity complications are always create problems for the observer."

His book "The Great Good Thing" talks about the phenomena of 'Jewish Paranoia' and it's effects.

Blogger tz February 25, 2018 9:17 AM  

They apparently had no plan be when their "power behind the throne" wormtongue-ing spell was broken.

And it does remind me of the section of The Silver Chair where they free Rilian but the witch uses hypnotic fire and strums a lute to make them drowsy and forgetful. Trump is the Puddleglum that stamped out the fire.

Now they are left with their naked hatred and manipulation and it is failing - the thing under the skinsuit is ugly. Even worse for them the antifa fire they started has gotten out of control, so even Jews to the right of Hillary are attacked by the left on campus. Yet, Jews stick together, and we've noticed and are imitating it. But they can't form their own group and also claim to be part of America.

The last and most difficult lie to go is the one that Dispensationalist evangelicals believe about "Jesus will come back after 7 years of the Great Tribulation after the Jews rebuild the temple, but we'll be raptured". That is breaking down, but very slowly. It will probably be some slower version of "The Great Disappointment".

It was originally made popular by Hal Lindsey and The Late, Great, Planet Earth. The only thing late turned out to be Jesus as he didn't return before 1988 (1948+40 years). And Russia (Gog and Magog) was supposed to take over the world, but be destroyed by nukes in Israel. Curiously, he never mentioned Islam back then, but in the early 2000s Muslims suddenly had a central role.

The most serious error is these Evangelicals hate Jews, first for wanting them to be slaughtered (ex 144,000) in the Tribulation, but not bringing the Gospel to them. The ONLY way we are saved is by grace through faith in Christ, and the law didn't remit sin, but they want to go back to the useless Jewish practice. Have they not read Galatians?

Blogger Johnny February 25, 2018 9:18 AM  

@25. Shimshon

The problem with Esther as a story is that it is too close to completely true. Only a little in the way of moral veneer. Needs more half truth stirred in.

Blogger The Pepe report February 25, 2018 9:27 AM  

I honestly dont even dislike her. But i sometimes see the voice and will of the American people getting treaded upon and i dont like that.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd February 25, 2018 9:30 AM  

So many of them seem to be hellbent on believing that our national survival means their destruction. If many Jewish pundits could simply understand that Americans aren't 19th century Russians. We don't have a strong inclination towards hating them. Quite the opposite. Sadly, guys like Shapiro, who are otherwise rational, are blind when it comes to this issue.

It's extremely counterproductive. Stephen Miller has done more to improve the reputation of Jews than the shriekers ever will, simply by supporting the safeguarding of our nation. If the majority of Jewish conservatives came out in defense of nationalism, Americans would likely never stop pedestalizing them. Unfortunately, they are doing the opposite and it's creating enmity where very little existed previously.
The Jews have a fascinating cultural history and are admirable in a lot of ways. I get that history has been unkind to them at points, but we value success and achievement, so they would be safe from too much criticism on that end . We don't have the collectivist mentality that exists in Russia.

Blogger tuberman February 25, 2018 9:49 AM  

3. Howard Stone

Why listen to Mark Levin period??

Blogger The Pepe report February 25, 2018 9:50 AM  

That charming Jesse Waters fellow interviewing Ann Coulter recently seems to be trying to work with the American right and be a true ally. Maybe.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 25, 2018 9:54 AM  

"Once more, pattern recognition proves more reliable than experts and credentials.

It has been said that pattern recognition is the most fundamental aspect of human intelligence.

I would be hard pressed to find a reasonable way to disagree.

As for the topic, Neo-Babelian Satanic Japhetites, everywhere, all the way down. At this rate they'll be lucky if their fate is comparable to the holocaust, rather than something out of a combination of Vlad Tepes III and Martin Luther's wet dreams.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 25, 2018 9:58 AM  

Wynn Lloyd wrote:The Jews have a fascinating cultural history and are admirable in a lot of ways. I get that history has been unkind to them at points,....

Mostly at points where Jews had been unkind to others. Has there ever been an expulsion they didn't bring upon themselves? From Chronicles/Kings onward, the Old Testament is the story of the Jews turning from God, over and over, and eventually being driven out by the God they abandoned.

Blogger Howard Stone February 25, 2018 10:04 AM  

@tuberman, lol car radio.

Blogger tuberman February 25, 2018 10:05 AM  

One of the main signs of these people is the phony shame-trick.
False shaming is a SJW staple to get everyone in line, as we all know, and it' effects have been stronger when they seemed to come from those who "identify" as Right.

So typical of the victim mindset, basically, "Shame on you for inviting Le Pen, and etc."

Blogger Purge187 February 25, 2018 10:11 AM  

"3. Howard Stone

Why listen to Mark Levin period??"

This. He's a Neocon who sounds like Tennessee Tuxedo.

Blogger James Dixon February 25, 2018 10:16 AM  

> One of the things that will be hardest for many longtime conservatives to accept as identity politics increasingly rise to the fore is the realization that about one-third of their long-time "opinion leaders" are not, and were never, on their side.

George Will, for example. To think I once had some respect for the man.

Blogger James Dixon February 25, 2018 10:17 AM  

> He's a Neocon who sounds like Tennessee Tuxedo.

Ack. Now every time I hear him I'll be thinking that. Absolutely true though.

Blogger Civis Silas February 25, 2018 10:21 AM  

@10 I like the term cuck-down. It's like a ho-down, except its sole purpose is to meekly give away your wife and daughter to a mob of freaks

Blogger BlowMe February 25, 2018 10:24 AM  

"Remember, I was there when the Littlest Chickenhawk was a supposed child prodigy playing violin and regurgitating mainstream Republican talking points."

Ben Shapiro. The Antonio Salieri of the Republican party with a little Yassir Arafat thrown in. He never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity to not virtue signal to the left.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 25, 2018 10:25 AM  

"To which the example of Gideon and his 300 provides sufficient rebuttal. We don't need them on our side because they are not on our side."

It turns out that men who act like men are objectively superior to men who act like animals.

"Boomers and their bizarre philosemitic fetish can't die soon enough."

I have to admit, my parents are on the trailing edge of that, and while they've been followers of the John Birch Society from day one, and have long been red pilled in most other ways, the Japhetite Question has proven to be a bizarrely hard nut to crack. After walking them through it multiple times, including using Strong's and historical records, I've got my father perhaps halfway cured, to be optimistic. My mother is often too smart to state her actual positions because she knows I'm going to take a sledgehammer to them, so it's harder to say where exactly she's at.

"Cuckify? CuckSpeak?"

Cucksintegrate.

"A Jewish convert to Christianity would still be "Jewish" in the cultural & genetic sense."

If the descriptive word is a baseless lie, can they still be it? Judean, Judahite, Offspring of Judah, followers of the way bestowed by God to the original nation of Israel, they're none of the above. Cultural? Genetic? Don't make me laugh.

"why do these women fail so that their husbands seek pleasure outside of their marriage?"

Better not to be married at all than to be joined at the hip to a combative nagging shrew.

"I am told that Klavan is a genuinely good man who is on the right side and he has made the most important transition, which concerns his position on Jesus Christ."

Good for him, may his faith and works grow in the Grace and Power.

"Though NAJALT"

Refusing to defer to the colloquialisms, NJA would be better, ha.

"The problem with Esther as a story is that it is too close to completely true."

The story of Esther should be read to feminists on a daily basis. "Here's the true path to female power, girls. Also, here's the consequences for egotistically defying hubby. Suck it up."

Blogger VD February 25, 2018 10:28 AM  

Go away, The Pepe Report. Your schtick is obvious and you said you weren't going to comment here again, Craig. Now go away and stay away. Your comments will be spammed.

Blogger tuberman February 25, 2018 10:29 AM  

Pattern Recognition

Jordan Peterson is great for this his take on Jacques Derrida saying that all categorizing is about exclusion. Derrida's claim is an attack on thinking and pattern recognition itself. This is an furtherance of "You can't stereotype."

Stereotypes = categories = patterns

Macro thinking requires inductive reasoning, but one leaves open micro exceptions to categories and patterns, yet the build up of evidence shows that these macro patterns will win.

To think at all, you need to categorize. The Left says NO DON'T...THUS STUPID.

Blogger Cecil Henry February 25, 2018 10:39 AM  

Jews are all about Jews and nothing else.

Anybody, and anything that does not promote Jewish interests is Holocaust forever.

Wake up. (((Their))) reputation, and criticisms are well earned.

Just look at Bill Kristol... as just one example.

What I find disturbing is the willful blindness and dishonesty of intellectuals like Jordan Peterson, who despite candid honesty and commitment to free speech, won't touch ethno nationalism or the JQ except to avoid it.

Blogger OneWingedShark February 25, 2018 10:39 AM  

McChuck wrote:Andrew Klavan, supposed American, supposed conservative, supposed convert to Christianity, still refers, on a regular basis, to "my people, the Jews."
It might be nothing, kind of like "my family" doesn't change when you be come Christian, even if they disinherit you. -- Of course, I get what you're saying, Brother Nathan makes many references to growing up Jewish, but draws a sharp and distinct line between them and Christians.

Blogger VD February 25, 2018 10:46 AM  

What I find disturbing is the willful blindness and dishonesty of intellectuals like Jordan Peterson, who despite candid honesty and commitment to free speech, won't touch ethno nationalism or the JQ except to avoid it.

Why? He is neither blind nor dishonest, and it is your desire to try to force others to speak that should disturb you. He does not touch those things because he wishes to retain his job. Now, you can criticize him for cowardice, which would be stupid and possibly hypocritical as well, but you cannot legitimately claim that he is either blind or dishonest.

It is always easy to claim that someone else should pay a heavy price for something. But it is not right to do so.

Blogger Crew February 25, 2018 10:46 AM  

The slippery slope of gun control?

First they say that you need to be 21 to own guns.

Over time, they increase it to 70:

https://www.pe.com/2018/02/15/hemet-couple-shoot-home-invader-from-moreno-valley-after-he-assaults-them-police-say/

Humor aside, they will attempt to remove the 2A bit by bit using other legislation and executive orders.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 25, 2018 10:50 AM  

"It is always easy to claim that someone else should pay a heavy price for something. But it is not right to do so."

There's a word for this sort of behavior, I'm sure of it.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 25, 2018 10:55 AM  

I hate that mother fucker Shapiro.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 25, 2018 10:55 AM  

Azure,

You're right. The JBS was the original red pill.

Blogger LES February 25, 2018 11:04 AM  

Mashiach: The Messiah

Jews do have a global goal.

The Messianic Idea in Judaism

"Belief in the eventual coming of the mashiach is a basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism.


What Will the Mashiach Do?

"Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering.

The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem. He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles. He will rebuild theTemple and re-establish its worship. He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 25, 2018 11:07 AM  

LES,

That's what Jews think?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 25, 2018 11:10 AM  

"He will rebuild theTemple and re-establish its worship."

My only question is whether "He" (the Beast) prefers pork or long pork on his altar.

My money is on the latter.

Blogger rumpole5 February 25, 2018 11:17 AM  

You better check the numbers. Boomers elected Trump. Unless GenX and the Mills wise up soon it will be "after us, the deluge".

Blogger VD February 25, 2018 11:19 AM  

The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem. He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles. He will rebuild theTemple and re-establish its worship. He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land.

In other words, they await the Antichrist, by whom even the Elect will be deceived, if that were possible.

As I have repeatedly observed, there are no "Judeo-Christian values". The two religions are literally poles apart.

Blogger CM February 25, 2018 11:29 AM  

That's what Jews think?

My participation in a conservative forum with many Jews has shown me very few are looking for Messiah. Maybe the Orthodox are.

Many of them are clueless to the Torah.

Blogger BlowMe February 25, 2018 11:43 AM  

@53

Followed the link and found this:

"Jews do not believe that Jesus was the mashiach. Assuming that he existed, and assuming that the Christian scriptures are accurate in describing him (both matters that are debatable)..."

The historian Paul Johnson has something to say about both assertions:

"Scholarship, like everything else, is subject to fashion, and it was the fashion, in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, for some to deny that Jesus existed. No serious scholar holds that view now, and it is hard to see how it ever took hold, for the evidence of Jesus's existence is abundant. Roman secular writers much closer to his time, such as Pliny, Tacitus and Suetonius, took it for granted, as did the accurate and conscientious Jewish historian Josephus, writing in the generation after Jesus's death. Moreover, unlike the majority of famous figures in antiquity, whose existence has never been questioned, Jesus was the subject of four biographies, one written by an eyewitness, the others transcripts of verbal accounts of eyewitnesses, all made public within thirty to forty years of his death, and all agreeing in essentials. They are confirmed in many details by contemporary letters circulated by Jesus's followers."

Jesus, A Biography from a Believer, page 4.

As they say, some fashions never go out of style.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd February 25, 2018 11:46 AM  

Why can't the leadership do anything to break the cycle? It seems like self-preservation would lead to self-examination, at least a little bit.

Blogger BlowMe February 25, 2018 11:47 AM  

Something to say about both assumptions, not assertions...

Blogger BlowMe February 25, 2018 12:05 PM  

...although because the writer is presumably a Jew, either term would suffice.

Blogger VD February 25, 2018 12:14 PM  

Why can't the leadership do anything to break the cycle?

I assume that because what is in their long-term interest contradicts what is in their short-term interest. Life in Israel is hard compared to the easy life in the USA. After all, their national leader - Netanyahu - has been directly telling the diasporans to come home for years. Most of them simply don't want to do so except as a last resort.

In Israel, they have to do the hard work of building their own society. Everywhere else, they can live as parasites while backseat-driving, imagining that they are superior, and lecturing everyone else on how their societies should be arranged.

Their pride is at stake. Nothing is more humbling than discovering perhaps you're not all that exceptional after all. I suspect that the fear of discovering that might be more significant than the hardship involved.

But I am merely an observer. Ask one of the Israelis here who used to live in the West. They would have a much more accurate idea than me.

Blogger The Cooler February 25, 2018 12:39 PM  

Boomers elected Trump

That voice that speaks to you sometimes, the one that tells you that you have fulfilled everything you were put on Earth to do, is there because you have.

Blogger The Cooler February 25, 2018 12:40 PM  

Boomers elected Trump

That voice that speaks to you sometimes, the one that tells you that you have fulfilled everything you were put on Earth to do, is there because you have.

Blogger Duh-ave February 25, 2018 12:51 PM  

In 1995 almost every writer featured in The Conservative Chronicle was sniping and concern trolling the Republicans (who had just retaken the house). Mona was one of them. I thought that they were just being stupid. Thanks for exposing their evilness VD.

Blogger Mach Seven February 25, 2018 1:05 PM  

Yet another political figure that I assumed was in the same part of the political/cultural spectrum as myself. I've read her for years and years.

Blogger Brett baker February 25, 2018 1:18 PM  

"Quiet, Chumly"

Blogger Shimshon February 25, 2018 1:26 PM  

@63 "Life in Israel is hard compared to the easy life in the USA."

In absolute terms that is perhaps the case today, but it is arguable.

I can only speak for my own experience and observations. I grew up totally assimilated but in one of those heavily Jewish enclaves (it was joked that the few gentiles in the public schools went to synagogue more than church in 7th and 8th grades to the numerous bar and bat mitzvahs). When I personally returned to the ways of my forefathers, it was impossible for me to separate that for any meaningful length of time from living in Israel.

Upon college graduation at the end of 1990, I walked away from a good job and certain raise, along with prospects for other well-paying opportunities to learn in a yeshiva in Israel. That followed soon after with aliyah.

As CM says, "Many of them are clueless to the Torah." Can confirm. The vast majority of America Jewry is utterly clueless. They really don't get why they can't be Americans like all you fellow white people. They are rooted but so assimilated into American life, more often than not, with a gentile spouse, that it will be a complete shock to them when it hits them that they too have to go back.

The Orthodox (the FFBs - "frum from birth" as we call them) are a different matter entirely. They are taught to know better in the private schools they largely go to (although this is far from a monolithic block). Their feelings of rootedness were understandable and (to me) somewhat sympathetic in the early 1990s. Having gone back at the time, despite its total ease compared to the hardy pioneers of a few decades prior, it was a difficult adjustment for many, and I saw more than a few people return.

They should know better, but they are very attached to the west. The community has only gotten wealthier as the idealists have left. They are also very attached to their sources of substantial income, which may not translate well or directly to Israel. So while Israel is easily on par with the west today in per capita GDP and many other measures (and far superior in birthrate), the difference for those remain is generally more stark.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 25, 2018 1:27 PM  

"I assume that because what is in their long-term interest contradicts what is in their short-term interest."

That's almost the definition of stupid-evil alignment.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 25, 2018 1:28 PM  

Wynn Lloyd wrote:Why can't the leadership do anything to break the cycle? It seems like self-preservation would lead to self-examination, at least a little bit.
Gammas are incapable of self-examination.

Blogger Brett baker February 25, 2018 1:29 PM  

"Quiet, Chumly"

Blogger BlowMe February 25, 2018 1:36 PM  

Mona Charen and the Ricky Bobbyization of relations with Jews:

"If you ain't a philosemite, you're an antisemite!"

Blogger DonReynolds February 25, 2018 1:47 PM  

"And the Le Pen name is a disgrace," she added. "Her grandfather is racist and a Nazi. She claims that she stands for him. And the fact that CPAC invited her is a disgrace," Charen said.

Obviously not an American value. WE do not allow corruption of the blood. Our tribe does not carry accounts forward and have grandchildren or great grandchildren pay for the sins and the crimes of their ancestors.

My father and his six siblings and parents were sharecroppers in Memphis, Texas (yes, the Panhandle), until they were forced out by the Dust Bowl decade-long drought in the region. They went to West Arkansas and continued as farm laborers....yes, they all picked cotton for ten cents an hour. Grand Dad was a WWI veteran and life did not improve for him until after WWII started.

According to the tribe, I owe them payment for the crimes and sins of WWII (and before). A debt I never accepted and never will. The account closed when they died. Go suck a bruise on somebody else. I owe the past nothing.

Blogger Jack Amok February 25, 2018 2:38 PM  

Gammas are incapable of self-examination.

A collection of Gamma mid-wits. What else should we expect?

Blogger Nate73 February 25, 2018 4:45 PM  

I just saw a post from a guy in a fb group I'm in talking about toxic masculinity and white privilege, and when I clicked on his username... from Tel-Aviv. Is Jewish feminism a genetic thing or just based in the Talmud and Tikun Olam?

Blogger peppermint88 February 25, 2018 7:38 PM  

They await a messiah to bring their people home, rebuild the Temple and reestablish the old ways. I want the same thing, and I also babble incoherently about ruling the world after America is secure.

Blogger Akulkis February 25, 2018 11:11 PM  

Now I just call myself "reactionary" and let 5he other idiots try to figure what exactly that means.

Blogger Akulkis February 25, 2018 11:30 PM  

I've heard ads on the radio for Andrew Klavan and his site. Sound bites are of kooky leftisr views, then I looked at his site to check out if it's as nutty as his own self-chosen radio presentation, and finf out he calls himself "Conservative"

And looks like his older brother is Larry David....


Uh.....yeah....

Blogger Akulkis February 25, 2018 11:33 PM  

@Lovekraft

.....because Sarah Silverman' legendary nastiness isn't just a schtick?

Blogger Akulkis February 25, 2018 11:47 PM  

@Wynn Lloyd

The Ashkenazi are not Hebrews.

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