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Thursday, March 29, 2018

Anonymous Conservative, take a victory lap

Science is gradually confirming his amygdala-based theory of politics:
Psychologists conducted brain scans on a total of 93 adults (first they studied 48 Caucasian adults, 58% of whom were female, and then replicated the effects with 45 adults from diverse ethnic backgrounds, 67% of whom were female) and found that the size of the bilateral amygdala, which governs emotions, survival instincts, and memory, was strongly correlated with support for the existing social order.

This mindset is known as “system justification,” and is highly correlated with conservatism, says Jay Van Bavel, professor of psychology and neural science at New York University. “A system-justifying psychological orientation favours the social, economic, and political status quo, and may promote vigilance to social hierarchy and a preference for ideologies that characterize extant inequality as legitimate and necessary,” explain the authors in the paper, published in December in Nature Human Behavior. The study evaluated this by the system justification scale, which poses questions such as, “In general, you find society to be fair,” and “Everyone has a fair shot at wealth and happiness.”

Earlier research (notably one paper co-authored by the actor Colin Firth) found a link between conservatism and the volume of the right amygdala, with higher volume linked to conservatism. Van Bavel says his research found that system justification, more than specific political ideology or the tendency to legitimize economic inequality under capitalism, was the strongest indicator of variations in the size of the amygdala.

The authors followed up with 20 participants and found that those with larger amygdalas were less likely to take part in protests. “Although the sample size was small, this link between amygdala volume and protest behaviour provides initial evidence that the amygdala may not only be related to beliefs about society but also willingness to take action to change certain aspects of the social system,” note the authors.
This is why you simply cannot fix SJWs. It's no more possible than trying to make them taller, or smarter. Their shrunken, tiny little brains are the problem.

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131 Comments:

Blogger Guitar Man March 29, 2018 8:03 AM  

Yeah, but where's the gorilla mindset?

Blogger Rocklea Marina March 29, 2018 8:08 AM  

I believe it's in the Amazon

Blogger Desdichado March 29, 2018 8:10 AM  

As an aside, his two books are free for the next two days. https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/evopsych-free-again-for-two-days-plus-julian-langness-on-sale/

Blogger Not a lefty March 29, 2018 8:22 AM  

I would love to see results of this among different Europeans, and see any correlation to IQ. Why do some intelligent people favor socialism? And where do Jews fit on that scale (if there is one)? More research is necessary here.

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 29, 2018 8:29 AM  

The correlation between brain size and politics is very interesting.

Also of interest would be the breakdown of "diverse ethnic backgrounds". Perhaps the researchers didn't want to go there.

Anonymous Anonymous March 29, 2018 8:31 AM  

Some people favor leftism because their fundamental nature is that of a resource-extractor rather than a resource-steward.

A dumb leftist obeys the narrative. A high-functioning leftist is like a land developer who sees a stretch of acres with towns and forests... and sees the potential energy locked into the structure-matrix of this ecosystem.

So he smashes that structure by means of lining up new residents, clear-cutting the trees and old homes, building paper-condos over all that. The released energy is the money he pockets from that flip.

Blogger losemoneyfast March 29, 2018 8:33 AM  

Next step is to confirm a statistically significant rise in stunted amygdalae beginning circa 1960s, and then search for the cause. I suspect pre-natal doses of Ephemerol. :D

Blogger rumpole5 March 29, 2018 8:33 AM  

Well, I am conservatve. Even if my amydalla is swollen I definately think that life is extremely unfair. Using the rest of my brain however I just don't see how giving power to a mulatto criminal so that he can enrich himself and his friends and family is any cure to life's unfairness.

Blogger Some Guy March 29, 2018 8:37 AM  

I'm more and more curious if this isn't related to physiological changes that comes about because of stress. These kids have grown up in broken homes with no moral center and they have spent the majority of their lives just trying to "survive" from their own perspective. It lines up pretty well with the findings that premature sexual maturation is a function of too much cortisol too early in the system.

Blogger rumpole5 March 29, 2018 8:39 AM  

You are confusing the amydalla with testicle. Different part of the body altogether. Testosterone is what you are looking for in the gorilla mindset!

Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 8:41 AM  

@9 Some Guy

Broken Homes mean the child is always afraid. Afraid for their safety. Afraid for being abandoned. Afraid because they can't understand what they are being hurt by other people.

When they hit puberty and the beginning of the neuron culling, they've not developed proper coping responses when their body tries to grow more rapidly.

We were joking with Markku about being a Finn and Finn's are always pessimistic about Russia invading. Obviously, it's a cultural survival instinct, but take far more personal & real fear, then apply it for a lifetime. AC's theory covers a lot.

Blogger AnvilTiger March 29, 2018 8:43 AM  

Low testosterone has a positive correlation with a smaller amygdalae (in general, everyone has two amygdala, one in each brain hemisphere). Amygdala dysfunction is related to OCD, PTSD, and BPD. Larger amygdala correlate with larger social networks, and also with aggressive behavior. But whether people who have larger social networks causes the amygdala to grow to support this behavior, or whether the larger amygdala causes people to be more comfortable with participating in larger social networks, is not known.

Blogger PragmaticTroll March 29, 2018 8:45 AM  

A discussion with Stefan Molyneux focused on this topic would make a good addition to his "r vs K" series. The comments section would be a riot!

Blogger Anno Ruse March 29, 2018 8:46 AM  

Time to add "little amygdala doesn't make the rules" to your tinder game.

Blogger Some Guy March 29, 2018 8:52 AM  

@11 Looking Glass

I'm gonna have to spend some time looking at his theory then. This is an issue in my local church. I live in lower Alabama but we have a lot of people who have moved from California to our area and they all have signs that they have lived their lives in some form of Chronic stress. I'm curious if it can be addressed at all and if the condition can be reversed.

Blogger mm March 29, 2018 8:54 AM  

@3 Desdichado

Awesome, thanks for the heads-up.

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 29, 2018 8:58 AM  

paworldandtimes wrote:Some people favor leftism because their fundamental nature is that of a resource-extractor rather than a resource-steward.

I expect the causality goes:

Childhood stressors -> Cortisol -> Stress avoidant behaviors -> Amygdala underdevelopment AND Low testosterone baseline set in puberty.

Blogger John Raptis March 29, 2018 8:59 AM  

This means that when a leftist taxes me and prevents me from creating my brain-required storage pile... it's genocide.

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 29, 2018 9:01 AM  

That is, both testosterone and amygdala are built up from engaging in conflict, which in puberty takes the form of sociosexual competition. These tend to become hard-coded as "set points" at the end of puberty.

All that said, I expect SSMV itself is hard-coded by the age of five.

Blogger Not a lefty March 29, 2018 9:03 AM  

It's not necessary.

Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 9:04 AM  

@15 Some Guy wrote:@11 Looking Glass

I'm gonna have to spend some time looking at his theory then. This is an issue in my local church. I live in lower Alabama but we have a lot of people who have moved from California to our area and they all have signs that they have lived their lives in some form of Chronic stress. I'm curious if it can be addressed at all and if the condition can be reversed.


It's repairable, but it requires de-stressing for a while & a fairly sizable diet change. The body needs to repair itself, which it can, but it can't if it's being stuck dealing with huge amounts of stress.

Blogger Some Guy March 29, 2018 9:06 AM  

@21

"It's repairable, but it requires de-stressing for a while & a fairly sizable diet change."

That's fun. These individuals are addicted to stress and when they don't get it, they will create it.

Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 9:07 AM  

@17 Aeoli Pera

There's a Builder vs Pillager dynamic within cultures that probably can't be well associated with neurological development.

Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 9:09 AM  

@22 Some Guy

They need to take up Fishing. That's not a joke. Being removed from the modern world for hours will do them a lot of good. Plus, probably can reset their internal clock as well.

Blogger heyjames4 March 29, 2018 9:12 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:paworldandtimes wrote:Some people favor leftism because their fundamental nature is that of a resource-extractor rather than a resource-steward.

I expect the causality goes:

Childhood stressors -> Cortisol -> Stress avoidant behaviors -> Amygdala underdevelopment AND Low testosterone baseline set in puberty.

correlate to your theory

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 29, 2018 9:14 AM  

Which one?

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 29, 2018 9:17 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:paworldandtimes wrote:Some people favor leftism because their fundamental nature is that of a resource-extractor rather than a resource-steward.

I expect the causality goes:

Childhood stressors -> Cortisol -> Stress avoidant behaviors -> Amygdala underdevelopment AND Low testosterone baseline set in puberty.


Forgot to close off the loop, naturally.

Childhood stressors -> Cortisol -> Stress avoidant behaviors -> Amygdala underdevelopment AND Low testosterone baseline set in puberty -> Egalitarianism

See: Petersen, M. B., Sznycer, D., Sell, A., Cosmides, L., & Tooby, J. (2013). The ancestral logic of
politics upper-body strength regulates men's assertion of self-interest over economic
redistribution. Psychological Science, 24, 1098–1103, http://dx.doi.org/10.1177/
0956797612466415

Blogger dienw March 29, 2018 9:17 AM  


(first they studied 48 Caucasian adults, 58% of whom were female, and then replicated the effects with 45 adults from diverse ethnic backgrounds, 67% of whom were female)....
“A system-justifying psychological orientation favours the social, economic, and political status quo, and may promote vigilance to social hierarchy and a preference for ideologies that characterize extant inequality as legitimate and necessary...”


Something is off here; but I cannot put my finger on it.
- It is biased towards the females' instincts: a gravitation towards a secure and small risk environment; politically, that means the growth of the welfare state and the government replacing the male as the "husband;" a deleterious phenomenon often written of in this blog and others.
- Such a built in biological means almost any system wherein the female feels secure will be preferred and selected - in biological terms this means a choice for power, status, and wealth.
- Systems such as the churches which have a preponderance of female influence will cater to this instinct; in other words, the churches will become increasingly liberal, even socialist; or, heretical: see the prosperity gospel. Married and feminized men will follow right along seeking to justify their pseudo-Christianity; and, as we have seen will preach sermons ans write books raising the female amygdala to divine status.
- Herein lies the cuck: he opposes today's radical changes but supports same twenty years form now once they have become part of the status quo.

Biology has to be countered or overcome by spiritual or philosophical realities; the desires of theamygdala should only be followed in areas that do not conflict with what is true and real. I do not think the Alt-right or any such political or spiritual philosophy can be based on the amygdala.














Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 9:20 AM  

@17 Aeoli Pera

Genetic factors are going to be the heaviest weight, but you want to look more for dietary choices & micro-deficient states. Cortisol dysregulation is what leads to Suicide, and, via SSRIs, mass shootings. (The suicidal upgrade themselves to mass shooters because they can't cause enough negative emotions to kill themselves.)

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 29, 2018 9:23 AM  

Looking Glass wrote:@17 Aeoli Pera

There's a Builder vs Pillager dynamic within cultures that probably can't be well associated with neurological development.


There are two aspects:

1. Individual strength/weakness
2. Group majority/minority

A strong individual whose race is in the majority will advocate for enslaving the minority.

A weak individual whose race is in the majority will be a builder.

A strong individual whose race is in the minority will be a pillager (can be direct, e.g. black gangs, or indirect, e.g. Jewish financiers).

A weak individual whose race is in the minority will support, indirectly, any political measure which weakens/disenfranchises/disarms the majority group and/or provides their group with GIBS.

Blogger James March 29, 2018 9:29 AM  

Society is not fair. The world is not fair. Life is not fair. The best we do is seek justice. Justice is a matter of principle, but fairness is a matter of negotiation, and since you can't negotiate with life, of course is it going to be unfair.

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 29, 2018 9:30 AM  

Looking Glass wrote:@17 Aeoli Pera

Genetic factors are going to be the heaviest weight, but you want to look more for dietary choices & micro-deficient states. Cortisol dysregulation is what leads to Suicide, and, via SSRIs, mass shootings. (The suicidal upgrade themselves to mass shooters because they can't cause enough negative emotions to kill themselves.)


Broadly agree, except with the final thought in parentheses. Mass shooters are generally desperate individuals engaging in some form of terrorism. Usually it's negative transference channeled through an ideology, even if the ideology is something as simple as nihilism.

Serotonin can be considered the "frame" chemical in the same way that cortisol can be considered the "stress" chemical. A person with low serotonin has a weak self-concept and engages in more projection-type cognition, confusing aspects of himself, society, and the natural world.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 29, 2018 9:35 AM  

@1 Guitar Man
Yeah, but where's the gorilla mindset?
---

It was in Flash (Grodd) or Wakanda.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 9:37 AM  

Boys the bumpstock ban has been announced... and it is worse than we doomsayers even predicted.

Trump and Sessions both should be removed from office over this.

Anonymous Anonymous March 29, 2018 9:38 AM  

I realized long ago it was pointless trying to convert them, but could change normies listening in. At the antigun march, I took a sign that said "Liberals hate dads & guns cuz dads with guns kill protected pedos" & I was surprised how many people told me I scared them, which I then asked if they were a pedophile.

I said about pushing the "Liberals hate dads & guns cuz dads with guns kill pedos" message to prep the ground for #Pizzagate, but this weeks Black Lightning TV Show is doing damage control for #Pizzagate.

Jewy JewNose is the big bad "white" who forces 100 niglet boys to deal drugs & killed black lighting's father, but this week had Blond HurGerman as the comet pizza guy who keeps smart powerful little niggerettes locked up in his basement. Talk about miscasting. A niggerette sells the little niggerettes to Blond HurGerman.

Blogger pyrrhus March 29, 2018 9:40 AM  

Very small sample size to be regarded as science...Also heavily weighted towards females, whose preference for social welfare programs and conformity to the status quo is drastically higher than males'....The two things need to be separated, with a much larger sample..

Blogger Anno Ruse March 29, 2018 10:00 AM  

"I was surprised how many people told me I scared them, which I then asked if they were a pedophile."

Nice to see someone out there doing the work.

Blogger Crew March 29, 2018 10:05 AM  

OT, but:

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/03/lega-leader-matteo-salvini-calls-for-a-complete-stop-of-illegal-boat-landings-in-italy-due-to-terror-threat/

Blogger Some Guy March 29, 2018 10:20 AM  

"Childhood stressors -> Cortisol -> Stress avoidant behaviors -> Amygdala underdevelopment AND Low testosterone baseline set in puberty -> Egalitarianism"

I hate to go here, but my first thought was that women should not be allowed to vote. Literally all of their decisions will reinforce this pattern in our society.

Blogger Ceerilan March 29, 2018 10:22 AM  

@dienw
You can get around the discrepancy between the female and male sample sizes by controlling for sex. The thing you can't get around is an overall small sample size. Typically, for a statistically significant analysis, you need a sample of 60ish at minimum.

Blogger Jack Ward March 29, 2018 10:23 AM  

34. Nate

Not read it yet, but, remove them? What do we get next. Maybe this is strategy? Maybe they gave you a midnight phone call and asked you to be very critical. For Strategy.
Otherwise, perhaps you need more coffee this am.

Blogger wreckage March 29, 2018 10:26 AM  

Here's a little bit on the amygdala:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982295000509
My favourite part:
"Similarly, patient SM, whose amygdala has been nearly completely destroyed by a bilateral lesion that spares her hippocampus and neocortex.....

....Although her intelligence and capacity for explicit memory are near normal, SM also has a remarkably defective history of personal and social decision making."

Liberals have smaller amygdalas, and have you ever met one that DIDN'T have a history of defective personal and social decision making?

In the absence of the amygdala, rote memory still works, but it has no connection to emotional impulse. The person will remember that they're going to be electrocuted on the count of 5, but will not flinch or recoil from the danger; they have no capacity for aversive learning and simply cannot learn to avoid pain properly. In effect, they can't remember pain.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit March 29, 2018 10:26 AM  

This is why you simply cannot fix SJWs.

So it's not their tiny shrunken souls and desperate reaching for anything to fill the God-shaped hole in their lives (aka "Selma envy," et al.

"Only God can fix SJWs" always seemed reasonable to me.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) March 29, 2018 10:30 AM  

Not read it yet, but, remove them? What do we get next. Maybe this is strategy? Maybe they gave you a midnight phone call and asked you to be very critical. For Strategy.
Otherwise, perhaps you need more coffee this am.


Go read it:

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/03/29/2018-06292/bump-stock-type-devices

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales March 29, 2018 10:31 AM  

@12

Classic scientific chicken and the egg problem.

Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 10:32 AM  

@43 The Overgrown Hobbit

Monasteries need to come back into style.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 10:35 AM  

Jack Ward

You should have stopped typing when you got to "haven't read it yet".

Read it. Then go read the NFA. Then take a good hard look at what the law says about machinegun possession. Not just ownership. Possession.

Seeing a bumpstock laying on the street and picking it up for a second... will be a federal felony punishable by a decade in prison. and "I didn't know it was a bumpstock" is not a defense by the way.

Sessions is literally defining bumpstocks as machineguns themselves. Its insane. it is so far over the line it isn't even something we imagined they would do.

Don't give me your 4D chess rationalizations. I don't care. No compromise means exactly that.

Blogger Stilicho March 29, 2018 10:41 AM  

@Nate, when we were 5, we all used our fingers as machine guns, now the DOJ says our fingers actually ARE machine guns!

Turns out that those schools expelling little boys for pointing their fingers were right after all!

What's the statute of limitations on attempted murder again? Little Johnny tried to kill me about 50 times back in the day.

Anonymous Anonymous March 29, 2018 10:41 AM  

"Monasteries need to come back into style."

They're doing quite well. On the Orthodox side, Mt. Athos is flourishing and has had it's population steadily increasing for decades now. On the Catholic side there has been a fairly consistent (although small) increase. The Dominicans in particular have been doing great, especially in England.
I'm a novice Benedictine Oblate myself.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 10:49 AM  

"when we were 5, we all used our fingers as machine guns, now the DOJ says our fingers actually ARE machine guns! "

the funny thing is... people like Jack Ward think you're exaggerating... because they haven't read it... and really don't know that you can bump fire with nothing but an index finger.

Anonymous Anonymous March 29, 2018 10:51 AM  

Will touching your belt loop while holding a .22LR be a federal crime now?

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 10:51 AM  

This was never anything but a plan to get all semi-automatics redefined as machine guns... because bumpfiring.

And idiot city boy baby boomer in chief fell for it. And The Last Boy Scout... actually implemented it... instead of just nodding and slow walking it until everyone forgot about it

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 10:52 AM  

"Will touching your belt loop while holding a .22LR be a federal crime now?"

simply having an index finger is now federal felony.

Blogger Shimshon March 29, 2018 10:53 AM  

Nate, just playing devil's advocate here. Maybe the definition is so far over the line intentionally, to force a new 2A court opinion. On victory, I mean decision, day, instead of a rainbow of colors blasted on the White House, you could have a pre-packaged military parade ready to go.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 10:57 AM  

"Nate, just playing devil's advocate here. Maybe the definition is so far over the line intentionally, to force a new 2A court opinion. "

mate... I need you to think for a minute about how insane that rationalization sounds.

imagine me saying "No see.. we need to vote for HIllary.. so she will implement the most crazy over the top ban ever... then it will force the courts to shoot it down... so we win!"

You would've slapped me if I had said that.

Blogger TM Lutas March 29, 2018 10:58 AM  

There is zero reason to think that people are going to stay away from brain modification and eventually, somebody's going to weaponize this. It doesn't matter whether it's a good or a bad thing. Predictably, it's going to happen.

Better to sort out the response before it becomes a real world problem.

@3 thanks, just snagged them.

Blogger Anno Ruse March 29, 2018 10:59 AM  

> Seeing a bumpstock laying on the street and picking it up for a second...

Crops rotting in the fields, bumpstocks laying in the streets...

Blogger dienw March 29, 2018 11:01 AM  

Ceerilan wrote:@dienw

You can get around the discrepancy between the female and male sample sizes by controlling for sex. The thing you can't get around is an overall small sample size. Typically, for a statistically significant analysis, you need a sample of 60ish at minimum.


Correct. This weighting and small sampling makes the "science" questionable; basically this is grad school, psycho* dept. "science."

*No, the period was not forgotten.

Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 11:02 AM  

@55 Nate

We don't need to rationalize around this one. Someone running either part of the DOJ or ATF "portfolio" put forward an idea and it got used. Problem is, with all legal matters, "how" is generally more important than any "why". Whoever wrote the rule changes clearly works for the Gun Grabber faction.

This is a f*** up and needs to be rapidly addressed. Along with the people responsible being fired.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah March 29, 2018 11:08 AM  

Maybe there's a drug that compensates for the smaller amygdala. DMT? Kinda like DJT

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 29, 2018 11:12 AM  

If bump-stock hapens, will pistol grip on the rifle be construed as component of bump-stock, to convert into "machine gun"?

Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 11:16 AM  

@61 JaimeInTexas

I'm actually serious with this one: since you can do something like a bump-stock action with a rubber band, does that not make rubber bands illegal in the USA?

Blogger pyrrhus March 29, 2018 11:17 AM  

Men have significantly larger brains than women, and are much better at math...Maybe that should be looked at...or at least the ratio of brain size to amygdala size...It is not valid to lump women in with men in any kind of scientific study.

Blogger Phelps March 29, 2018 11:26 AM  

rumpole5 wrote:Well, I am conservatve. Even if my amydalla is swollen I definately think that life is extremely unfair. Using the rest of my brain however I just don't see how giving power to a mulatto criminal so that he can enrich himself and his friends and family is any cure to life's unfairness.

That is exactly what they are measuring. They were looking for a correlation with the idea that inequality is a natural result of the world, in opposition to the idea that inequality is the result of some sort of human intent.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 29, 2018 11:26 AM  

@62
only if you put a rubber band around the lower receiver's mag port. Like putting a handgun with brace to your shoulder.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 11:26 AM  

"I'm actually serious with this one: since you can do something like a bump-stock action with a rubber band, does that not make rubber bands illegal in the USA?"

again... you don't need a rubber band. Shoulder the weapon. Then instead of pulling with your trigger finger.. hold it stiff. Now pull the weapon forward against your stiff trigger finger.

Boom.

You're bump firing.

Any semiauto rifle will do this.

Blogger Clint March 29, 2018 11:29 AM  

One of my HS Buddies had an old pump action .22. You could hold the trigger down and just pump it and it shot repeatedly. Only one trigger pull. Guess that would also now be outlawed.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 11:31 AM  

Looking Glass

Why should we go after the one guy that wrote this... and not the guys who decided to use it? That's Sessions. And why should we stop at Sessions instead of continuing to the idiot that ordered Sessions to do it in the first place?

Blogger Phelps March 29, 2018 11:37 AM  

A few things from this thread --

The first thing to realize is that the amygdala is a very specialized, very different part of the brain. The amygdala's primary and overwhelming purpose is threat detection. When you suddenly see a spider in a movie and jump? Amygdala. It's hooks directly into your eyes, and can recognize "threats" before your visual cortex has even processed it. That's why you can't not jump -- it happens before you even "see" the spider.

Another weird thing about the amygdala is that it never forgets anything. Once you have have been exposed to a threat, your amygdala will always remember that threat. Phobias are probably amygdala disorders. PTSD is largely an amygdala disorder. Alzheimer's researchers are keen on the amygdala because of this "never forgets" property.

Here's the big one for you guys -- the amygdala responds to eustress the same as muscles. You can train your amygdala bigger. That's the main thing that Special Forces training does. A part of their crazy fast reflexes is that they have huge amygdala that reacts scary fast. (Like muscles, genetics limits, but without exercise it never develops.) You do it by acclimating to stress (good stress that makes you stronger is eustress).

Having a huge amygdala means getting used to fear. The amygdala trips, and then the ACC looks at the threat the amygdala has flagged, and either tells the amygdala "false alarm, calm down" or it tells the rest of the limbic system, "full fight or flight, bring everyone on board."

So liberal have atrophied amygdala because they don't confront the stress, they avoid it. It's why people in "diverse" neighborhoods become more conservative -- they are exposed to more threats. It's why the super rich tend to liberal -- they are never under threat. It's why special forces training is all about causing stress and forcing the trainees to confront the threat rather than avoiding it.

The amydala is the key to the "strong men make good times" cycle.

Blogger Duke Norfolk March 29, 2018 11:42 AM  

Looking Glass wrote:

Monasteries need to come back into style.


Indeed. St. Possenti style.

The Heretics of St. Possenti

Blogger Looking Glass March 29, 2018 11:42 AM  

@68 Nate

Well, the first reason is we don't know who proposed it, within the administration, nor do we know who's wrote the findings. The Bureaucracy pulling stunts happen, so it clearly needs to be addressed.

However, I asked about the Rubber Bands because the Memetic potential is useful along with the legal complexities. The legal complexities of the NFA will be lost on most people; the Federal Government making possession of Rubber Bands a crime is easy to explain. This is a screw up by the Trump Administration, possibly via sabotage from interior factions, that needs to be addressed. Addressing it takes multiple avenues.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 11:45 AM  

"Well, the first reason is we don't know who proposed it, within the administration, nor do we know who's wrote the findings. The Bureaucracy pulling stunts happen, so it clearly needs to be addressed."

yes. we do. Trump ordered Sessions to find away to ban bumpstocks.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) March 29, 2018 11:49 AM  


@realDonaldTrump
Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS with a mandated comment period. We will BAN all devices that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns.
3:50 PM · Mar 23, 2018

Blogger Kettle March 29, 2018 12:10 PM  

Just one more points showing how important breeding is. In many way breeding is EVERYTHING.
Recognizing that is antithetical to liberalism.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 29, 2018 12:21 PM  

@Josh
They could simply undo Zero's rule changes in that case.

Blogger Nate73 March 29, 2018 12:29 PM  

It does seem to be the case that people on the left go more for blaming problems on systems ("structural oppression, structural racism"), and the right is more about blaming individuals or opponent groups. It probably explains their unquestioning faith in structural racism, oppression of women, etc. When will they do a study about that?

Blogger tuberman March 29, 2018 12:33 PM  

I Tweeted PDJT three time in the last couple months asking him not to go there with the bump stock issue. I knew it would be very unfavorable, and it's wrong.

Blogger Starboard March 29, 2018 12:34 PM  

The language bias in the original article is interesting....

Larger amygdala = support for status quo

Status quo is unfair, so larger amygdala means support for obvious systemic economic inequality inherent in evil capitalism.

Smaller amygdala = not support for unfair status quo and more likely to actively protest, so smaller amygdala is more socislly virtuous than bigoted, racist, privledged larger amygdala.

Blogger Anno Ruse March 29, 2018 12:38 PM  

tuberman, you'd have more luck filling out his mailing list surveys and adding your comments at the end.

Blogger tuberman March 29, 2018 12:43 PM  

69. Phelps

Great post. How do young guys respond to bullies? How do girls respond to their mentally bullying females? When crunch times come, how do young adults respond? (Some retire to safe spaces, or take SSRIs, not good).

Anyone who has gotten into excellent shape knows they have a whole scope of responses to "stress" and can remain super calm while under that test. Think of a good sniper, trained to be still even under death threat, while insects are biting him for hours. Under those conditions, he must still shoot between heart beats.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 12:46 PM  

"They could simply undo Zero's rule changes in that case."

jesus christ.

There were no rule changes. the ATF approved bump stocks because they could not justify not doing so. No rules were changed. When it comes to firearms law Trump is literally an idiot. He has no idea what he's talking about.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 12:47 PM  

Seriously... The moron is literally criticizing Obama for not being stricter on gun-control.

And you wonder why we didn't want to vote for a damn New Yorker.

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 12:50 PM  

and no I am not saying the sky is falling. I don't think anything is gonna come from any of this. But there is no way to rationalize this as anything but a total betrayal by both Sessions and Trump.

I've been Sessions strongest supporter here. But after this... he and Trump are going to have to more than just build a wall to make up for this. There will have to be swamp creatures heads mounted on it.

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 29, 2018 12:52 PM  

Phelps wins.

Also, it's not enough simply to apply stress to get "eustress". There must be a problem-solving response. See: http://www.unz.com/isteve/disabling-brains-makes-them-more-pro-immigration/

Blogger tuberman March 29, 2018 12:56 PM  

"Also, it's not enough simply to apply stress to get "eustress". There must be a problem-solving response."

Your add-on of a problem solving response completes this, nice observation.

Blogger robwbright March 29, 2018 12:59 PM  

And smaller = violence, aggression and psychopathy in this study:

"... when it is unduly small, it may contribute not to fear, but to aggressive, even violent, behaviors, a new prospective study suggests...

The researchers used structural MRI imaging to measure the amygdalae of the 56 subjects. They then assessed whether there was any correlation between amygdala size and levels of aggression and psychopathic features subjects had shown in childhood and adolescence, taking potential confounds such as race, age, handedness, IQ, concussion, and childhood maltreatment into consideration.

They found that subjects with smaller amygdalae exhibited significantly more aggression and psychopathic features in childhood and adolescence than did subjects with larger amygdalae."

https://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.pn.2013.7a3

Blogger tuberman March 29, 2018 1:00 PM  

"There will have to be swamp creatures heads mounted on it."

We will need to demand public executions, and many. Long jail terms will not suffice.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim March 29, 2018 1:09 PM  

Poor Claude Levi-Strauss, his ideas will continue to be roundly defeated.

Blogger Stilicho March 29, 2018 1:10 PM  

@nate, criticizing former president Barrack Obottom is just rhetoric aimed at the left. The substance, however, remains horrible.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 29, 2018 1:26 PM  

"There will have to be swamp creatures heads mounted on it."

Yep.

If a fraction of what is in the public domain is true, there is already plenty to indict a number of people.

Scalps collecting better start very soon.

Blogger Shitavious Lordecai March 29, 2018 1:39 PM  

I would love to see the amygdala studied in conjunction with the will to power this article talks about. http://thermidormag.com/the-will-to-power-and-contemproary-politics-a-martian-perspective/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The disease is especially morbid in that its corresponding counterpart on the Left is an abnormal superabundance of will to power. Of diagnostic significance here was a very widespread misunderstanding within the ranks of the Right of the meaning of the infamous crying jags and histrionic emotional outbursts displayed by Leftists in the wake of Trump's election. The Rightists ridiculed these displays as so many signs of the contemptible weakness and laughable fragility of all the pampered little special snowflakes. But there is an alternate interpretation: these outbursts are the visible index of just how strongly the average Leftist lusts after power. If Rightists find it ridiculous and incomprehensible that somebody could be frustrated to the point of utter psychological devastation by being thwarted in his political ambitions, their own, much more phlegmatic attitude to political defeat is arguably as much the sign of a relative lack of similarly burning ambition on their part as it is of the heroically Stoic strength of composure and hard-headed grown-up sensibilities they claim. Put simply, the Rightists just don't want it as badly.


Anonymous Anonymous March 29, 2018 1:54 PM  

"frustrated to the point of utter psychological devastation by being thwarted in his political ambitions"

Thus Killary's meltdown after the loss.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( I love the smell of Autism on the internet. It smells like ... victoREEEEEEEEE ) March 29, 2018 2:52 PM  

66. Nate March 29, 2018 11:26 AM
Any semiauto rifle will do this.




the new Sicario trailer is amusing. del Toro does this with a pistol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i02bxFc88b4&t=25s

Blogger Nate March 29, 2018 3:32 PM  

That will absolutely work. but the way he did it is a good way to break your finger.

Blogger Aeoli March 29, 2018 4:00 PM  

Thank you for noticing, tuberman. It comes from observing that Alpha males don't perceive threats, they perceive challenges. This is also hardwired, probably at an early age.

Anonymous Anonymous March 29, 2018 4:01 PM  

@82. Nate

"And you wonder why we didn't want to vote for a damn New Yorker."

I voted against Mrs. Clinton. I would have voted for damn near anyone to stop that bitch from being president.

Blogger Tanjil Bren March 29, 2018 4:05 PM  

"61. JaimeInTexas
If bump-stock hapens [sic], will pistol grip on the rifle be construed as component of bump-stock, to convert into "machine gun"?"

Yes. That's the point (and the end game).

Bolt action long arms (at best) is what you'll be left with.

If you want to see the future, look at what happened in Australia.

Blogger tublecane March 29, 2018 4:31 PM  

I read an Anonymous Conservative book, and without actually knowing much of the science I found it persuasive, at least for the "single issue" type things that are people are most emotionally connected to and which touch the heart of survival strategy. You know, sex, guns, all that.

Of special interest, to me at least, is disgust reflex, and the left's lack of it. Explains all the gross stuff I see them do daily without it appearing to bother them.

I am cautious, however, only because I've been down biological roads before. Like evolutionary psychology, which after the basic stuff amounts to a series of Just So stories. Though there may be a Primeval Liberalism and a Primeval Conservatism, these personalities don't track perfectly with our Current Year understanding of the terms.

Also, culture matters. Which is why we must win the Culture War. I believe with the correct folkways little-amygdalas can live happy, pseudo-big-amygdala lives.

Blogger tublecane March 29, 2018 4:37 PM  

@Kettle- Liberal heroes like Marie Stopes and Margaret Sanger understood that.

While simultaneously pushing the little-amygdala dream of "free love." But I imagine that may have been a form of "sex for me but not for thee," because they were superoos and could handle it. Or maybe they were just ridiculously optimistic about how easy it would be to control the effects of runaway sex. Or maybe they let their little-amygdala-inspired loins do the thinking for them.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 29, 2018 4:39 PM  

Nate wrote:and no I am not saying the sky is falling. I don't think anything is gonna come from any of this. But there is no way to rationalize this as anything but a total betrayal by both Sessions and Trump.

So, what were we planning to do when Crooked Hillary did this? We need to react long and loud against this, to show Trump he has done something stupidly wrong, even if this is really a 3D kayfabe chess move.

Part of Trump's kayfabe plan no doubt hinges on our howls for the gun banners' blood.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 29, 2018 4:41 PM  

tublecane wrote:Or maybe they were just ridiculously optimistic about how easy it would be to control the effects of runaway sex. Or maybe they let their little-amygdala-inspired loins do the thinking for them.

Maybe they figured free love was a good way to get more customers for their infant sacrifice clinics.

Blogger tublecane March 29, 2018 4:44 PM  

@Shitavious- Wanting power so much as to reduced to shouting at the heavens in a pool of tears when you are denied is perfectly vomoaticom with weakness. Stoic strength truly does mean you shouldn't want it that much, because wanting it that much isn't a good thing.

I will never want candy as much as a baby, and eonwo be found crying to my mommy when I can't get any. That's because I'm stronger than a baby.

The left's response to TrimpTr victory was infantile.

Blogger tublecane March 29, 2018 4:47 PM  

I apologize for the ghastly number of typos above. Point is, babies cry when they don't get what they want. It's not a sign of steengst to be reduced to such a state.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 29, 2018 4:50 PM  

"So it's not their tiny shrunken souls"

Technically the amygdalae are part of the soul.

"and eventually, somebody's going to weaponize this."

Eventually? Mate, have you been outside recently?


OT: As for the bump stock ban, Nate is partially correct. This has always been about defining semi auto weapons as fully automatic, as I commented when the subject first came up.

As for Nate (and others here) being incorrect, I refer to an early section of said document:

"ACTION:

Notice of proposed rulemaking."


Meaning that this isn't actually law yet, it's only proposed.

On the other hand, they're not even trying to pretend this move isn't full retard:

"The Department disagrees. The relevant statutory question is whether a particular device causes a firearm to “shoot * * * automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.” 26 U.S.C. 5845(b). Bump firing and other techniques for increasing the rate of fire do not satisfy this definition because they do not produce an automatic firing sequence with a single pull of the trigger. Instead, bump firing without an assistive device requires the shooter to exert pressure with the trigger finger to re-engage the trigger for each round fired. The bump-stock-type devices described above, however, satisfy the definition."

This is them literally saying that because manual bump firing requires you to exert pressure on the trigger repeatedly with your finger it does not qualify as fully automatic, and then immediately ignoring the obvious fact that bump fire mechanisms also require you to exert pressure on the trigger repeatedly with your finger.

It's ludicrous. Even if I took this moronic definition in good faith, you could circumvent this definition by making a device that actually provides pressure to your arm or hand to move your finger into the trigger (belt loops, anyone?).

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 29, 2018 4:54 PM  

Belt loops have already been defined as illegal modifications that convert semi-auto to full auto.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 29, 2018 4:57 PM  

That will, of course, be their immediate next step if this one goes through.

Yes, if this goes through, they're going to immediately strip out the hypocrisy and declare your finger + a semi automatic to be a machine gun.

Blogger TM Lutas March 29, 2018 5:02 PM  

@104 What I was thinking about was a retroviral that damaged the amygdala, changed genetics so subsequent generation structures remain small, and shifted humanity further towards the left as a political aim. I'm pretty sure that's still just in my nightmares.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 29, 2018 5:02 PM  

"Belt loops have already been defined as illegal modifications that convert semi-auto to full auto."

If you're hooking the gun through the loop instead of your hand (or something attached to your hand that isn't the gun), yes.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 29, 2018 5:04 PM  

"What I was thinking about was a retroviral that damaged the amygdala,"

Why bother with something so messy when you can just force social systems and systematically drug schoolchildren to cause the same effect?

Blogger Jack Amok March 29, 2018 5:14 PM  

Nate's amygdala was triggered by the bump stock ban.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 29, 2018 5:15 PM  

"Nate's amygdala was triggered by the bump stock ban."

And yours took no notice.

Blogger Jack Amok March 29, 2018 5:34 PM  

And yours took no notice.

You have a hangover or something? You're being a bit of an ass today.

Blogger rainman March 29, 2018 5:58 PM  

In his book AC says that the lack of amygdala function is due to both genetics and to a lack of threats to train it against. The amygdala don't work because selection mechanisms have softened and once past that there are still no real threats. It's because they're the softest people to ever live, not because they're stressed.

Blogger Jack Amok March 29, 2018 6:13 PM  

It's because they're the softest people to ever live, not because they're stressed.

I thought I remembered AC pointing out amygala become damaged through chronic stress. When your higher brain functions aren't able to create a plan that removes the stress, the amygdala starts firing more and more rapidly, with less and less input required (to merge topics, it's like a bump-stock for your amygdala). It's possible though that both "not stressed enough" and "chronically stressed" are true and contributing to the Liberal mindset.

What Phelps says about eustress and Aeoli Pera says about the need for positive resolution are important. Continuing the muscle analogy, your muscles only get stronger after you but the weight down and get some rest. If your amygdala is constantly under perceived stress, it'll get weaker. Liberals run from stress, but eventually it finds them anyway and with their atrophied amygdala, trivial things like seeing a cartoon frog are transformed into existential threats.

But I've only read ACs website, not his book. And it's possible I may be mixing up authors too.

Blogger Jack Amok March 29, 2018 6:21 PM  

Phelps, excellent post

That's why you can't not jump -- it happens before you even "see" the spider.

Another fun amygdala fact along exactly those lines. Goosebumps are the result of your amygdala. Goosebumps are an autonomous threat response common to mammal to make body hair stand up so the mammal looks bigger. Doesn't do us mostly hairless apes much good, but we still share it with our fellow mammals.

So when you hear a stirring piece of music and you get goosebumps and that tingling in your stomach? That's your amygdala. It doesn't understand music, all it hears is noise that might be dangerous, so it triggers a threat response, but moments later, the rest of your brain processes the sound and shuts down the threat response, but by then your skin is trying to puff up your hair and a small dose of adrenaline has been injected into your system, causing that thrill effect.

Blogger Geoarrge March 29, 2018 6:30 PM  

I find it useful to look at it in terms of Cooper's situational awareness scale. Lefties can't seem to handle Condition Yellow, certainly not in any sustained sense. Condition White requires a safe environment to work. So, they can only relax if they can make the environment safe. This results in an outlook that tends to reinterpret all problems as environmental, since a perfect environment in this view would allow everyone to remain in White at all times.

Anonymous Anonymous March 29, 2018 6:33 PM  

I live in lower Alabama but we have a lot of people who have moved from California to our area and they all have signs that they have lived their lives in some form of Chronic stress. I'm curious if it can be addressed at all and if the condition can be reversed.
.......

Lobotomy? Few things are more dangerous to our way of life then transplants

Blogger tuberman March 29, 2018 6:56 PM  

OT. The TV show Roseann is the sign of the new times. Caught everyone of the "creative Leftists" flat footed. Her show got incredible ratings for this, everyone has hundreds of channels, plus Netflix timeline.

Much teeth nashing with 99% of the TV and Hollywood people. They really believe their own BS.

Blogger Man of the Atom March 29, 2018 7:35 PM  

Josh (the sexiest thing here) wrote:Not read it yet, but, remove them? What do we get next. Maybe this is strategy? Maybe they gave you a midnight phone call and asked you to be very critical. For Strategy.

Otherwise, perhaps you need more coffee this am.


Go read it:

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/03/29/2018-06292/bump-stock-type-devices


The item is in the rulemaking comment period (90 days; closes Jun 27 2018) and is not yet law. Recommend formulating reasons why the rule is poorly framed, poorly phrased, or how the stated rule does not meet the intent of the proposed purpose. Enter comments via the word balloon in the menu to the upper left of the document.

Be factual, professional, and polite. Copy your congressman, your senators, and the President. This proposed law can be influenced if enough people engage.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants March 29, 2018 8:21 PM  

I beat the dog sh*t out of other girls in junior high and high school that tried to bully me. Sometimes I got the dog sh*t beat out of me.
It was great. I miss it, a lot.
Being old stinks.
Women shouldn't vote & I don't believe you can fundamentally change people, no. I think this idea is wrong.
I was *always* exactly as I am now.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants March 29, 2018 8:26 PM  

Learning about the disgust reflex a couple of years ago was a major lightbulb moment for me.
It explained so much about how I see the world & how I see the left that it was stunning to me that I'd never realized something so simplistic as that.
I don't know how it goes for others, but this made a huge impact on me.

Blogger Avalanche March 29, 2018 9:11 PM  

@110 "Nate's amygdala was triggered by the bump stock ban."

Because his amygdala recognizes DANGER!

Blogger Jack Amok March 29, 2018 9:22 PM  

Because his amygdala recognizes DANGER!

Oh, I never said Nate was mistaken, just triggered.

Molon Labe

Blogger Phelps March 29, 2018 11:03 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:
Also, it's not enough simply to apply stress to get "eustress". There must be a problem-solving response.


Right, that's the definition of eustress -- stress that you recover from and acclimate to. If you don't deal with it and acclimate, it is "distress" and it harms you.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but sometimes it just kills you (a little bit.)

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 30, 2018 12:04 AM  

"You have a hangover or something? You're being a bit of an ass today."

I simply disagree with you, and no, I'm the next best thing to a teetotaler.

In retrospect, I assume you were joking. My mistake.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( I love the smell of Autism on the internet. It smells like ... victoREEEEEEEEE ) March 30, 2018 3:14 AM  

94. Nate March 29, 2018 3:32 PM
That will absolutely work. but the way he did it is a good way to break your finger.



he'll be fine. it was just a 9 mill. ;-]

Blogger SciVo March 30, 2018 4:51 AM  

Zeroh Tollrants wrote:Learning about the disgust reflex a couple of years ago was a major lightbulb moment for me.

It explained so much about how I see the world & how I see the left that it was stunning to me that I'd never realized something so simplistic as that.

I don't know how it goes for others, but this made a huge impact on me.


What I learned a decade ago is that leftists only sense two out of five moral spheres, fairness and harm; but not disgust, loyalty, or respect. (I think I saw a recent article where this model has been updated with new research, but I was on mobile and couldn't save it to my link bank.)

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 30, 2018 7:22 AM  

I can't quite bring myself to agree with five spheres theory, SciVo. Something about it seems off, like maybe one of the spheres is actually properly a component of one of the other spheres.

Beyond that, leftists definitely understand authority/respect... but only with regard to themselves, just like with harm and reciprocity.

Similarly, they certainly understand sanctity, but only with respect to their own humanistic proclivities.

Solidarity... I'd agree. They don't understand it at all. I'd lump their apparent egregious contortions in authority and purity (and lesser corruptions in reciprocity and harm) as due to their utter expulsion of solidarity.

Blogger James March 30, 2018 10:40 AM  

" they certainly understand sanctity, but only with respect to their own humanistic proclivities."

I don't think being sanctimonious is a sign of understanding sanctity. I think more of the opposite.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 30, 2018 3:34 PM  

"I don't think being sanctimonious is a sign of understanding sanctity. I think more of the opposite."

Solipsism kind of does that to all of the five spheres though. If we're talking reciprocity, they believe in taxing everyone to benefit the parasites. If we're looking at harm, their policies cause the destruction of everything, and they love that, and so on.

Solidarity is the most obvious violation (in my mind), because of how thoroughly solipsistic they are.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 10:22 AM  

As admitted by the researchers, the sample size was small, and the study is only preliminary. More research must be done here. There really is no "victory lap".

A footnote: The simplest way to debunk the notion that Anonymous is presenting a scientifically valid evolutionary theory, without using too much science, is to examine chimpanzees, our closest living relative. Both species of chimpanzee (the common chimp and the Bonobo) carry about 99% of the same genes we do, and both (based on number of offspring and investment in them) must be classified as K selected. Common chimps are often violent and maintain a strict dominance hierarchy, even to the extent of warring with (and even killing) their neighbors; whereas the Bonobo is peace loving and promiscuous, generally settling disagreements by having sex. The authors total lack of understanding of basic differences between r and K selected species is apparent in his designation of K selected species as predators and r selected species as prey. The concepts of r and K selection are based on differences in parental investment and are applied at a species or population level; r selected species tend to be short lived and produce large batches of offspring all at once, K selected species tend to be longer lived and produce smaller numbers of offspring over a longer period of time. The author wants instead to apply r and K designations to different individuals within the same populations of the same species, and often appears to conflate numbers of offspring produced by members of a species with the total number of members of a species observed (more = prey), although this appears to be a deliberate distortion it is possible that Anonymous is simply ignorant of the established use of r and K selection.

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