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Sunday, March 11, 2018

Anti-democratic democracy

Robert Kagan explains that the principle of democracy requires that NATO bring the hammer down upon countries whose anti-democratic voters have anti-democratically elected themselves governments that he, personally, doesn't like.
- Steve Sailer

Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.
- Barbara Lerner Spectre

We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you do will meet our needs and demands. We will destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build. Beyond all temporary alliances with this or that action lies the ultimate split in nature and destiny, the enmity between the Game and God.
- Maurice Samuels

The thing that makes Judaism dangerous to everybody, to every race, to every nation, to every idea, is that we smash things that aren’t true, we don’t believe in the boundaries of nation-state, we don’t believe in the ideas of these individual gods that protect individual groups of people; these are all artificial constructions and Judaism really teaches us how to see that. In a sense our detractors have us right, in that we are a corrosive force, we’re breaking down the false gods of all nations and all people because they’re not real and that’s very upsetting to people.
- Douglas Rushkoff

So, we are informed that Judaism means trying to redefine things to mean their opposite, attacking everyone else's faith, and actively trying to destroy every race and nation in order to build a new world that is contrary to human nature. I don't know about you, but that sounds literally Satanic with a capital S to me. I wonder if that might be a better explanation for all those historical expulsions from Christian nations than universal envy of their good looks and success. Regardless, it should suffice to make it abundantly clear that while Christians and Jews may share the Pentateuch, they do not worship the same God.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
- Jesus Christ

Remember, Jesus Christ is the Way, the TRUTH, and the Life. And he has said that no one will come to the Father except by him.

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88 Comments:

Blogger tuberman March 11, 2018 6:09 AM  

I think that these NWO/Marxist Jews may find themselves on the Wrong Side of History. But perhaps that's just me.

Blogger Shimshon March 11, 2018 6:19 AM  

"I wonder if that might be a better explanation for all those historical expulsions from Christian nations than universal jealousy over their good looks and success."

Smart Jews still in exile now have the chance to say, "You can't fire me, I QUIT!" And make aliyah.

Blogger Looking Glass March 11, 2018 6:38 AM  

Tone-deafness by Jewish writers is a centuries old tradition, but Mr. Rushkoff has jumped right past tone-deafness to "we're far worse than you could possibly imagine". I want to say that's a bad look, but that's a massive understatement.

Though there is a subtlety to why Jews get ejected from everywhere they show up. Elites among a local Jewish population will get the low-class Jews involved in whatever cultural movements are going at the time & place. If it succeeds, they'll use those Jews for leverage within the culture. If it fails, they've created a situation where the local Jews will automatically defend whatever the movement was because it, to them, seemed Jewish. This creates a building level of animosity between the dominant population and the Jews. Layer that over decades, add in Usury, and the Jews eventually get the boot. Though almost never before the Elites have done a lot of pillaging.

You see this with Mr. Rushkoff's statement. Jews can't agree about practically anything about their faith and haven't for a very long time. So his statement, while insane on the surface, is actually an instinctual cultural defense of activities of a group at the top. Any Jew within the Media will act to defend the Elites because they're at the bottom of the Status hierarchy, which means they'll be left to get killed when the Jews get the boot again. "Media Class Jews" are always start from a position of instinctual terror, though I don't think they have the ability to articulate that.

In that context, a Jewish writer openly stating that Judaism is actually a religion of genocide, that either has to be crushed or it will destroy everyone else, makes sense. He's playing cheerleaders for the string pullers at the top, in the vain hope he will get some scraps of status, influence and money, while always not being left to die at the hands of the angry mobs after his bosses try to ruin the place. It's a pathological version of the Secret King Gamma crying out for safety. It's the peasant singing of the glory of his lord, in the hope he isn't next on the chopping block.

This is also why the coming break between the Diaspora & Israelis is going to be rather nasty. The Israelis have built something they want to protect, which is quickly changing their cultural & sub-cultural instincts. I do wonder if the assassination of the Canadian billionaire couple might not be an opening salvo.

Blogger VD March 11, 2018 6:56 AM  

The Israelis have built something they want to protect, which is quickly changing their cultural & sub-cultural instincts.

The Israelis have already set themselves apart from the Judaic religion to a certain extent. It will not be surprising if they eventually decide to outlaw it when it turns on their nation too. The ironic thing is that both the anti-semites and the philosemites appear to have the core issue completely backwards.

Blogger SciVo March 11, 2018 6:58 AM  

Oh, I'm sure that Kagan, Spectre and Rushkoff have been publicly scolded and shunned by all of their well-known tribemates for such an un-Jewish hostility to Native European cultures, religions and self-determination.

Right?

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 11, 2018 7:02 AM  

@ 3

There is a line between terrible optics or gamma rage/pain/fear cries and reveling in evil. I'm less sure Rushkoff hasn't crossed it.

Blogger JACIII March 11, 2018 7:06 AM  

Around the 17 minute mark: (((They))) have been "far to permissive" of countries that have been "allowed to stand up and declare their illiberalism".

I get the feeling they wouldn't have a problem with a bombing campaign a la 90's Bosnia. He's really pissed 'cause he doesn't think the US under the GE will be their attack dog anymore.

These fucks are creepy. No wonder they have to rape/coerce women.

Blogger Robert Browning March 11, 2018 7:15 AM  

But why? Have you considered the Neanderthal hypothesis??

https://www.darkmoon.me/2014/they-are-not-like-us-by-jack-harper/

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 11, 2018 7:32 AM  

I wonder if Kagan thinks his rage fit is divinely inspired? And I wonder does Rushkoff include Allah as a false god in need of smashing?

Blogger Durandel March 11, 2018 7:33 AM  

But why you ask? Because the Judaism of today is not the Judaism of the Apostles. Talmudic Judaism descends from the Pharisees, and Christ told us who their real father is. And the fruit they bear proves it.

Blogger mostly dead March 11, 2018 7:36 AM  

Kinda relevant:
https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/03/marxism-and-satanism/

Also, google Jacob Frank.

Blogger Stilicho March 11, 2018 7:39 AM  

@shimson: do you have to deal with this virulent strain of tikkun olam in Israel? If so, how do you typically deal with it? Does it manifest primarily on the left, or otherwise?

Blogger Looking Glass March 11, 2018 7:43 AM  

@4 VD

Considering the "not terribly secret" treaty that exists between Israel & Saudi Arabia already, you never quite know what'll happen. Though it's probably to be expected there is a certain chunk of the Diaspora that isn't getting invited to Israel.


@7 JACIII

The Wannabe Imperialists are deeply hurt when power structures, that they could never build, resist their infiltration and have their own objectives. Their utter lack of introspection is what makes them so difficult to understand for anyone that values with society being around in 10 years time.

They're also pathological hypocrites, which is why they seem so creepy.


@6 Uncle John's Band

Once I sorted out that most "Media Class Jews" were only able to land jobs in journalism with the use of nepotism & tribalism, I realized that with few exceptions, this is the absolute best these people can do. While they may have a public image, they're actually very low status where it counts. "Journalist" has just enough status their mothers will still admit they exist, even if they failed to get into an Ivy League school or get a job in Finance.

Taking that into account, most of what they write is either Gamma Terror or Gamma Rage. Occasionally both at once, but the main objective is always to please a small group of Elites. If they say the right things, they'll get invited to better parties. It doesn't matter that Rushkoff is pretty much writing copy for DS with those statements, they'll just cry about bigotry if anyone points out how insane that statement is.

It is reveling in evil, but that's what his actual audience wants. Out of self-preservation, he's giving his intended audience what they desire, and I doubt he even truly understand he's doing it. Being Gamma, introspection is not a strong suit for him.

Blogger Thad tuiol March 11, 2018 8:24 AM  

Why are the Jews so good at infiltrating white countries but not Asian ones?

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 11, 2018 8:30 AM  

Why are the Jews so good at infiltrating white countries but not Asian ones?

"Hello, fellow Chinamen."

Blogger VD March 11, 2018 8:39 AM  

Why are the Jews so good at infiltrating white countries but not Asian ones?

1. They have half-European DNA.
2. Whites are considerably more altruistic and less tribal than Asians.

That doesn't mean they won't try to make the leap to China. That's been in the works for at least 12 years now. I don't think it will work.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 11, 2018 8:40 AM  

@ 13 Looking Glass

Got it. Makes sense.

"Though it's probably to be expected there is a certain chunk of the Diaspora that isn't getting invited to Israel."

That will be a "lost tribe" to be wary of!

Anonymous Anonymous March 11, 2018 8:55 AM  

"I think there’s a resurgence of traditionalism because at this point in time Whites are learning to reject multiculturalism, and I think the Alt-Right is part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the multiracial societies that they have become over the recent decades. The Alt-Right is at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. Whites are now going into purification mode, and nationalists are resented because of their leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive." - not Barbara Lerner Spectre

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 11, 2018 9:03 AM  

Semites? Not those.

I was going to respond to the question about why Jews are good at infiltrating white countries, but Vox nuked it from orbit.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 9:05 AM  

I tried checking, but I notice Wikipedia carefully refuses to mention Kagan's religion or ethnicity. I suspect that we will soon find any such references removed from Wikipedia completely.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 9:11 AM  

Actually, to be fair, that's the Infogalactic copy of the Wikipedia article. I've got the automatic redirect set up in Pale Moon. I haven't checked the current Wikipedia article.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 11, 2018 9:13 AM  

"I suspect that we will soon find any such references removed from Wikipedia completely."

Yellow twin-triangle pins, digital edition. Courtesy of Infogalactic memory-plug.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 11, 2018 9:13 AM  

Totally not OT.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/08/poll-more-than-80-percent-of-americans-support-trumps-trade-economic-nationalism/

Also not OT - can't find the link, but yesterday saw an article about "No Crackers Allowed" graffiti at an Ivy League university. When a student who is white, southern, and from a poor family complained he was told that since crackers are racist the graffiti is fine and his complaint is without merit.

Blogger tz March 11, 2018 9:14 AM  

Jews make the Faustian bargain, thinking they can out deal the devil at the end - they can't. They get wealth, influence, etc. but they do his bidding.

C.S. Lewis once noted that we don't burn witches not because we don't believe in burning people who cause mass death and assassinations, but because we don't believe in witchcraft.

We look back from the mature Christendom and not think Witches were really a threat, but there were demon posessed people and Simon Magus in Acts.

So a true Witch, that brough about plague, famine, and conflict, and sent spells to hurt or kill people? Exile was too good.

So when Jews brought in j-Usury, Prostitution, and Slavery, and other quaint old testament practices?

While I'm sympathetic, when it is war, you throw out lots of civil practices lest you die or be enslaved. And this is a culture war. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor then declared war, the handful of Japanese enlisted in the American military didn't matter, the whole population was seen as a threat. To put it simply:

Your people declared war and are attacking my people.
You are my enemy if only for the sake of that - talk to your own and convince them to stop and make repairations or you will soon hope they surrender.

Like the MSM on election night, Jews live in a bubble or echo chaimber thinking their intelligence and cohesion will save them and see them through, so they never learn when to even slow down.

Not unlike the land of the rising Sun - Japan considered themselves superior Asians, a superior race and culture. But one nuclear bomb can spoil your whole world view. A second certainly will.

Another chasm is Jews have Tikkun Ulam where they want to "fix" the world. Christians are told to redeem the people of the world and Christ would fix it when he returned. I neither need nor want to be "fixed", and if the Jews keep trying it is going to get ugly. But they don't want to be redeemed, to even think about accepting Christ - they have their Talmud and rules and laws and system and don't think they need the blood of Calvary to be saved.

Blogger Lovekraft March 11, 2018 9:45 AM  

Perhaps a few of you ilk could come over and lend me some assistance at r/islam.

https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/83mlzr/i_bet_this_gets_wiped_faster_than_you_can_say/

Blogger Zaklog the Great March 11, 2018 9:56 AM  

I realized something interesting the other day when, in argument about the status of Jewish people in America, someone brought up the Holocaust in order to get me to concede moral authority. The Ilk might appreciate this.

Someone else responded that if the Jews were God's chosen people, why didn't God stop Hitler's plans? I immediately pointed out that several times in the Bible, God allowed Israel to be badly battered. Upon reflecting for a moment, I connected this with something Jordan Peterson said in his biblical lectures.

In the Old Testament, almost every time something dreadful happened to Israel, it was because of unfaithfulness or sin on their part. Israel was invaded or enslaved and their prophets said, "Repent." Now, if the Jews today claim to be God's chosen people, they should maintain this way of thinking. God allowed something dreadful to happen to them. Like Israel, they should question, "Where did we go wrong that God allowed this?"

Instead, they have embraced the leftist "morality" in which being a victim makes you a moral authority. They have said, "This was done to us, therefore obviously we are better than you." This is directly inverse of the old way of thinking.

[Note: None of this is to justify what was done to Jews by Germany or say "Hitler did nothing wrong". Again, if you look back at the Old Testament, those God used as a scourge against Israel frequently had to face severe judgment themselves later.]

Blogger Lovekraft March 11, 2018 10:00 AM  

@ 26: Dave Sim in his Cerebus arc "Latter Days" actually presented the view that there were two gods in the OT. One, of the earth, was the jealous and rebellious one who counselled and pushed all the vileness, with the true elder God being there to point out this folly.

Blogger Alexamenos March 11, 2018 10:14 AM  

There's a fellow by the nickname of 'therebbe' on twitter who has a pretty interesting theory, mainly that modern leftism is direct ideological descendant of a jewish gnostic heresy (sabbateanism / frankism). The gnostic notion in a nutshell is that all this law abiding stuff isn't bringing the messiah back, maybe we need to f*** things up royally to get the ball rolling. It's antinomian in the extreme, every thing unlawful is lawful, ugly is beauty, evil is good.

https://therebbeblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/25/sabbatean-frankism-as-the-paradigm-of-the-modern-left/

Interesting notion IMO.

Blogger SouthRon March 11, 2018 10:19 AM  

@20 Kagan in many of the former Soviet states is the same name as Cohen in
The West.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer March 11, 2018 10:24 AM  

"Where did we go wrong that God allowed this?"

There were/are some Jews who ask that question regarding the Holocaust. They were vilified.

In the Old Testament, almost every time something dreadful happened to Israel, it was because of unfaithfulness or sin on their part. Israel was invaded or enslaved and their prophets said, "Repent."

Yeah, the whole point to the OT is that people are perverse and will abandon God, and that he will punish you for it.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 11, 2018 10:33 AM  

When Jesus Christ called Judaism the synagogue of Satan, it wasn't hyperbole.

"The Israelis have already set themselves apart from the Judaic religion to a certain extent."

I suspect that the gap between Israelis and diaspora Jews will only widen over time.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 11, 2018 10:40 AM  

Jesus was pretty clear as to what he thought of what the Pharisees, Sadducees, etc had become even at that time, let alone after the multiple concentrations of the Babylonian elements of it that have happened since.

...And then you realize that the people calling themselves Jews today aren't even actually Semitic, and never were.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 11, 2018 10:52 AM  

Lovekraft wrote:Dave Sim in his Cerebus arc "Latter Days" actually presented the view that there were two gods in the OT.That is the old Gnostic heresy, rearing it's ugly head. (((David Sim))) is just repackaging Talmudic lies for a Christian audience.

Blogger Lovekraft March 11, 2018 11:06 AM  

@33: Have you even read the Latter Days arc? Pick up the phone book then we'll discuss.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 11, 2018 11:27 AM  

No and no. the description you've provided is ample to classify and characterize the heresy. It's straight Kabbalism, which is hardly surprising.

Blogger Matt March 11, 2018 11:28 AM  

Dave Sim isn't Jewish..

Blogger Jew613 March 11, 2018 11:34 AM  

Vox, no Israel isn't going to outlaw Torah Judaism. The country is becoming ever more nationalistic and religious. Already the majority of the officers in the combat units in the army are religious. The ones causing the problems are secular leftists often funded by foreign gentile governments see V15 organization.

Blogger SamuraiJack March 11, 2018 11:34 AM  

Hey boomers, stop the blind love for Israel. The boomercaust is coming and your children and grandchildren dont care about the 6 gorillion. Even my dad believes in the "muh chosen people" garbage. The church leadership has failed in this area but the next generations will correct this heresy.

Blogger Shimshon March 11, 2018 11:46 AM  

@37 Jew613, thou art correct. However, that doesn't immunize Golus Jews from a Golus Mentality or from bouts of attacking their hosts.

Witness Avi Shafran's latest, where he first claims to be one of us reasonable Jews who don't see an anti-semite in every nook, and then proceeds to do exactly that.

https://cross-currents.com/2018/03/10/we-the-people-they-the-elites/

"I’m not one to spy anti-Semites hiding under the bed...But my antenna for subtle prejudice against Jews nevertheless functions well. And a recent speech by longtime National Rifle Association executive vice president Wayne LaPierre set it vibrating intensely."

Did he just say what I think he did? Wayne LaPierre of the NRA? Is the NRA the new KKK?

"Now, few if any of us Orthodox Jews are fans of George Soros or Saul Alinsky, and we certainly have no sympathies for Karl Marx. Most of us, moreover, are politically and socially conservative. But is it unreasonable to be concerned by the fact that all of the names Mr. LaPierre cited are of Jewish ethnicity?"

Yes, Avi, it is.

Blogger VD March 11, 2018 11:47 AM  

Vox, no Israel isn't going to outlaw Torah Judaism. The country is becoming ever more nationalistic and religious.

I certainly agree for the foreseeable future. However, there appears to be a fundamental dichotomy there between becoming a) more nationalistic and b) more religious given the globalist aspects of the religion. I very much welcome Israeli nationalism, as it is observably inspiring a more constructive perspective in the Jews resident there, and vastly prefer it to Jewish heal-the-worldism.

Blogger Shimshon March 11, 2018 11:53 AM  

Vox, even for those who leave the religious fold in Israel, they do not abandon nationalist leanings. This isn't the 1940s anymore. They may shun the mitzvahs, but they don't stop considering the left and the Arabs to be enemies.

Blogger VD March 11, 2018 12:00 PM  

Vox, even for those who leave the religious fold in Israel, they do not abandon nationalist leanings.

Exactly. That's the prospective future divide to which I was referring. I would expect the religious heal-the-worldists to eventually migrate to the Israeli Left, in much the way the US Never Trumpers have migrated to the Democrats.

Nationalism vs globalism will come to Israel sooner or later.

Blogger Shimshon March 11, 2018 12:03 PM  

"I would expect the religious heal-the-worldists to eventually migrate to the Israeli Left, in much the way the US Never Trumpers have migrated to the Democrats."

Can confirm. They call themselves "Open Orthodoxy." Orthodox, with a dash of Churchian. And like the SJWs preceded them, they now distance themselves from their own moniker.

Blogger VD March 11, 2018 12:16 PM  

They call themselves "Open Orthodoxy."

How very Open Society....

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 12:19 PM  

> Someone else responded that if the Jews were God's chosen people, why didn't God stop Hitler's plans?

He did. Do you really think we're not the tools he chooses to use?

Blogger Tino March 11, 2018 12:30 PM  

EurAsia, the next coming super-power, now in its embryo stage, is fully inoculated against Judaism. Jews will be offered a choice between death and full integration with no middle ground. Israel as you know it has less than a couple generations existence. Within 5 generations it will be doubtful there will even be any Jews. None of the above is my personal thought, it is what the generators of EurAsia are pre-advising. This is why a big chunk of the Diaspora is positively hysterical over China and Russia in their military build-up. The gig is over.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 11, 2018 12:54 PM  

"Do you really think we're not the tools he chooses to use?"

Are we talking Jews, or Judahites?

Blogger mostly dead March 11, 2018 1:22 PM  

@35
Sim actually deliberately turned Gnosticism (of the sort that certain parts of the Left adore) on its head. His true God IS the Biblical God - it is the female false god who is the malicious deceiver in his system.
Much triggering did he cause with that.

Blogger Jew613 March 11, 2018 1:39 PM  

Shimshon, fair enough.

Vox, Judaism is an intensely nationalistic religion. The globalists generally wear the skin of Judaism but utterly reject the Torah. Also Open Orthodoxy was formally excommunicated, their rabbis are not rabbis and are teachers of a false religion. Their seminaries declared houses of heresy and their religious rulings have no status. I'm on my phone now but I'll find the declaration of kefira putting them in cherem when I get a a chance.

But I expect the most nationalistic rabbis to become ever more dominant in religious thought and Israel to become a theocracy within my lifetime, may Hashem make it so.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 11, 2018 1:42 PM  

Let me put it this way, I think that the Judahites are not the Jews, and that the Jews are indeed tools God has chosen to use. Vessels of wrath, specifically.

Anonymous Anonymous March 11, 2018 1:42 PM  

In the Old Testament, almost every time something dreadful happened to Israel, it was because of unfaithfulness or sin on their part. Israel was invaded or enslaved and their prophets said, "Repent." Now, if the Jews today claim to be God's chosen people, they should maintain this way of thinking. God allowed something dreadful to happen to them. Like Israel, they should question, "Where did we go wrong that God allowed this?"

They're not God's people anymore. That is why the Jews were scattered into the winds after AD 70, and their nationhood was so thoroughly demolished that any given Jew cannot know for certain what tribe he is even part of. (So there is no way to revive their temple worship, even if they had control of the temple mount.)

God's people are those baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If any of God's people have something to fear, it is those who believe there is some other way to salvation except through trinitarian baptism.

Blogger Shamgar March 11, 2018 1:54 PM  

No, they don't even share the Pentateuch. They are the Pharisees, who only practice religion to be seen and esteem observance of rules and regulations (Talmud) more than God Himself.
Yes indeed, Mike Jackson, God's people are the baptized.

Blogger CM March 11, 2018 2:16 PM  

When you finish saving every other facet of western civilisation, you can be ordained and start (little c) catholic church part deux.

I kid, but coming here on Sundays is sometimes (frequently) better than church.

OT, but what is a good engine for versatile forums and community organization?

Blogger Jew613 March 11, 2018 2:24 PM  

Statement excommunicating Open Orthodoxy

Blogger Lovekraft March 11, 2018 2:32 PM  

@48: aye. And his two-parter "Twinkle Twinkel" issues 289/90 presented some metaphysical insight that astounded.

Correction as to earlier post: the arc is "Chasing Yahweh" not "Latter Days."

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 11, 2018 2:33 PM  

"If any of God's people have something to fear, it is those who believe there is some other way to salvation except through trinitarian baptism."

You should be fearing for yourself.

Blogger synp March 11, 2018 2:48 PM  

1. I don't know who this Maurice Samuels is, but he sounds very badass. I'd bet he's lots of fun at parties.

2. I guess Jews were always a bit more globalist than others, but then we concentrated all the more nationalist ones in one country. By selection, this makes those that remained in other countries even more globalist.

3. Even the left in Israel is rather nationalistic. It's not keen on non-Jewish immigration outside of a small Tel-Aviv faction that would like to keep some Erithrean and South Sudanese so-called refugees who entered Israel in the last decade and a half.

Blogger horsewithnonick March 11, 2018 3:56 PM  

So... what's the plural of Holocaust again?

Blogger Dirk Manly March 11, 2018 4:04 PM  

@20

"I tried checking, but I notice Wikipedia carefully refuses to mention Kagan's religion or ethnicity. I suspect that we will soon find any such references removed from Wikipedia completely."

That's yet another reason for Infogalactic

Blogger NoneOfTheAbove March 11, 2018 4:34 PM  

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Blogger NoneOfTheAbove March 11, 2018 4:37 PM  

I'll see if I can cut a paste a little better this time.

The only problem is that nationalism is prompting left wing Jews to move to the US.

"The reasons for leaving are always personal, and it’s hard to point to a specific political trend. But the discourse around leaving is indicative of a real crisis in the Israeli left regarding the inability to effect change, and the increasing sense that our ideals are unwanted and that we are outnumbered. Not just at the polls, but at the family dinner table, too"

http://mondoweiss.net/2016/09/leftwing-israelis-important/

Blogger Shimshon March 11, 2018 4:42 PM  

Jew613, what you say about OO is true, but there are plenty who skirt the line but stay on the safe side of it. Some very prominent "modern" rabbis embrace feminism wholeheartedly. To the point of destroying marriages and so forth.

Blogger Shimshon March 11, 2018 4:54 PM  

They're worse in many ways, because they haven't been ostracized to the same extent, and thus cause more damage.

In an internal Zehut Anglo chat group, there are a few dogmatic "let them stay" types vis a vis the African infiltrators, but they are minority voice. From Feiglin on down, the vast majority of believe they have to go back. No different than here though, they sperg and will dominate any conversation until forcefully stopped.

Blogger Stilicho March 11, 2018 5:10 PM  

Looks like shimson answered my questions whether he meant to or not. Tikkun olam is alive and well in Israel, but not yet in control. I expect Vox is right: there is a growing divide and confrontation is coming unless the globalist infiltration is successful.

Blogger Jew613 March 11, 2018 7:11 PM  

Noneoftheabove, I know they are awful and I'm sorry about it. I'm glad to be rid of them but dont want to foist them on the good people of the USA.

Blogger Stilicho March 11, 2018 7:33 PM  

@jew613, if things get bad enough here, they'll be knocking on your door again. I expect you'll take them, given history and your current policies, but remind your countrymen that taking them back in the hour of their need doesn't mean you have to let them participate in the governing of Israel.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 11, 2018 9:22 PM  

mostly dead wrote:His true God IS the Biblical God - it is the female false god who is the malicious deceiver in his system.
So, you admit you know literally NOTHING of the history of Gnosticism?

Blogger Drew March 12, 2018 1:43 AM  

You could make a lot of progress in separating the Israeli Jews from the Judaic religion by pressuring Israel to accept Jews who are Christians in the same way they accept secular Jews. American Christians need to put political pressure on Israel to do this. No unconditional support for Israel.

We will treat you the way you treat Christian Jews.

Blogger SirHamster March 12, 2018 2:07 AM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:

[Note: None of this is to justify what was done to Jews by Germany or say "Hitler did nothing wrong". Again, if you look back at the Old Testament, those God used as a scourge against Israel frequently had to face severe judgment themselves later.]


Was reading a book on WWII architecture, and there was a chapter on bomb shelters and the German approach. Effective ... until firebombing was used. Those secure bunkers became deathtraps where their inhabitants were baked to death. All would perish inside completely intact bunkers.

Rather reminiscent of something else Germany is known for in WWII.

Blogger Shimshon March 12, 2018 3:35 AM  

Stilicho, tikkun olam as you understand it is definitely on the wane. It has done considerable damage though. It did foist on us Oslo (which right wingers since have refused to repudiate it; Bibi infamously embraced Arafat). And withdraw from Lebanon only to see Hezbollah fill the void. Like in America with the equivalent, the Israel franchise of the Deep State is aligned with them.

Blogger NITZAKHON March 12, 2018 6:55 AM  

As a strongly conservative (both politically AND religiously) Jew, I can tell you that woman not only does not speak for me... she's the antithesis of everything I learned Judaism is.

The Islamic Invasion and the Spanish Solution
http://redpilljew.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-islamic-invasion-and-spanish.html

Blogger NITZAKHON March 12, 2018 7:02 AM  

@Jew613: "Vox, Judaism is an intensely nationalistic religion. The globalists generally wear the skin of Judaism but utterly reject the Torah."

It's LEFTISM that is the enemy here, not Judaism. We're in agreement.

It's why so many American Jews are anti-gun, when they should be the opposite:

A Very Personal Opposition to Gun Control
http://redpilljew.blogspot.com/2018/02/a-very-personal-opposition-to-gun.html

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 12, 2018 8:10 AM  

Jew613 wrote:Noneoftheabove, I know they are awful and I'm sorry about it. I'm glad to be rid of them but dont want to foist them on the good people of the USA.

Take out your trash, but don't take it here.

Islam is at war with your nation and mine. Islam delenda est is a common interest. Don't let your Leftist traitors screw up cooperation. We need to follow that same advice on this end.

Blogger VD March 12, 2018 9:43 AM  

It's LEFTISM that is the enemy here, not Judaism. We're in agreement.

No. You're absolutely wrong. Judaism is the implacable enemy of both Jesus Christ and the God of the Christian Bible. Leftism is merely one of its evil fruits.

Blogger NITZAKHON March 12, 2018 10:13 AM  

@VD: So the fact that I, a Jew, stand against the Islamic invasion, am a staunch Conservative politically, and am willing to fight and die to protect America is meaningless?

Someone who agrees with you 80% of your time is an ally.

Blogger Al March 12, 2018 12:09 PM  

Also see:

Review of Nothing Sacred: The Truth about Judaism
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/03/09/review-of-nothing-sacred-the-truth-about-judaism/

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 12, 2018 12:32 PM  

"So the fact that I, a Jew, stand against the Islamic invasion, am a staunch Conservative politically, and am willing to fight and die to protect America is meaningless?

Someone who agrees with you 80% of your time is an ally."


It's meaningless when they turn a 180 faster than a beta particle and stab you in the back with no qualms on that other 20%. And that's before we point out that this is more like 10% agreement, 90% backstab than the ratios you're proposing.

Here's the line in the sand: are you claiming to be a Jew by blood, or by religion, or both? If you take options #2 or #3, there can't be any reconciliation whatsoever.

Unfortunately for said religion, from where we're standing, the well it's drawing from is incorrigibly tainted. You can't save what's willfully dead, and metaphorical necromancy is just so much worse. You've got to either go where the life went, or burn with the rest of the diseased dead. Said religion can only exist insofar as it refuses to follow Life Himself. Old things have passed away.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 12, 2018 2:12 PM  

NITZAKHON wrote:So the fact that I, a Jew, stand against the Islamic invasion, am a staunch Conservative politically, and am willing to fight and die to protect America is meaningless?
You spit in the face of God and then tell me we agree on 80%?
Politics is not everything. In this context, politics isn't anything.

Blogger NITZAKHON March 12, 2018 2:33 PM  

@Azure and @Snidely: So it's Christian or I'm the enemy, is that it?

Blogger VD March 12, 2018 3:49 PM  

So the fact that I, a Jew, stand against the Islamic invasion, am a staunch Conservative politically, and am willing to fight and die to protect America is meaningless?

It depends. Are you willing to fight and kill Israelis for America?

Blogger NITZAKHON March 12, 2018 4:43 PM  

@VD: If Israel attacks / invades America, yes. Somehow I do not see that happening.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 12, 2018 4:44 PM  

NITZAKHON wrote:@Azure and @Snidely: So it's Christian or I'm the enemy, is that it?
I never said you were an enemy, merely that you're not one of us. That's just a fact. You can't ever be one of us, unless you lose the thing that makes you not American. That means losing your other identity.

It's always better to operate on the basis of facts.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 12, 2018 4:46 PM  

NITZAKHON wrote:Somehow I do not see that happening.
In other words, you feel free to say anything, because you don't think you will ever be held to account.
Ask the sailors on the USS Liberty. If you're in charge of the Med fleet when the Liberty is attacked, do you call airstrikes on Tel Aviv?

Blogger VD March 12, 2018 6:04 PM  

If Israel attacks / invades America, yes. Somehow I do not see that happening.

It has already happened. But yes, in that case you could certainly be an ally. And if Turkey gets deeper into Syria, it's not unthinkable that as a NATO ally, the US would be required to shoot down Israeli planes attacking Turkish forces.

Blogger Al March 12, 2018 6:22 PM  

Vox does a great service in regularly calling attention to the perfidious Jews. We can't be reminded enough of this deicidal tribe's perfidy, and thus of the fundamental opposition between Christianity and the Talmudists.

The excellent Bp. Williamson also speaks of this fundamental opposition here:

The Fundamental Opposition
https://youtu.be/fNcge-ne08Q

Keep fighting, friends.

Blogger Rashadjin March 12, 2018 7:05 PM  

I never thought I'd get the opportunity to send off this idea, if for my own sake, but here we are.

I've come to the rough conclusion that the worst of the diaspora Jewish culture is inherently Gamma, which makes the corporate diaspora Jewish organism inherently Gamma. It's a fun, self-organizing system sort of deal - like capitalism.

For the self-organizing system, I split them into four groups: The Evil Jews (Hollywood/Globalists) who exhibit the hidden king mentality via "Cloud People" mentality, often not very religious. The Garbage Jews (Media/ADL) who are obsessive-compulsive about Jewish status so cover up all the misdeeds of the Evil Jews that might make people question their pristine image as fine, upstanding fellow white people and/or special victims that people should care about. The "Good" Religious Jews who carry and transmit their culture, both good and bad, by refusing to assimilate, and that refusal to assimilate is seen as proper to them in order to carry on as the Jewish people should. Then the normie Jews, who basically integrate into host cultures and provide cover as the mass of fine, decent people that the Evil Jews and Garbage Jews use as human shields for their corruption and misdeeds.

The script goes: Diaspora Jews seek new host culture to integrate with, be a part of. They succeed wonderfully for all the reasons they do. The Evil Jews find that success is not enough, because Cloud People should be worshiped as superior while all others should be mere servants. They begin to take advantage of and exploit host culture, treat with contempt and disdain. Eventually, this morphs into the Gamma desire to cut down and destroy all that stands as their superior and does not give adequate obeisance. Garbage Jews cover up for Evil Jews because paranoid about status for all their special reasons (trying not to repeat history by repeating history, along with milder versions of Cloud People mentality). "Good" Religious Jews keep culture alive and thus the cycle going under additional cover of normie, integrated Jews over generations and generations until the Evil Jews progress through success -> secret king disdain -> exploitation -> active undermining and destruction of host culture. Diaspora Jews become even more diaspora. Repeat.

What I am foggy on is how much of the Jewish Culture/Religious Doctrines/Talmud that the "Good" Religious Jews carry around is problematic, or how much of this slice of the Jewish corporate organism is problematic. I feel like most of the religious Jews and the all the normie Jews are fine, which means that as a percentage, the core problem group is a minority, maybe even a tiny minority, but don't really know on that. Either way, the corporate organism is Gamma, and more effectively so for the bad being a minority.

And saying all that, I feel like I'm late to the party because everyone's always saying "There (((they))) go again, exhibiting [Gamma Behavior X]," and I only sifted through enough info to finally get it a little while ago.

The fun, additional note is this would mean that the Jewish caricature/stereotype meme of the greedy hook-nose is actually less about blatant greed and more about depicting the image of the ultimate Gamma Male.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 12, 2018 11:18 PM  

"@Azure and @Snidely: So it's Christian or I'm the enemy, is that it?"

According to Jesus, that's the gist of it.

This isn't to say that you will not receive mercy, but rather that it is the only thing you have a chance of getting. The more extreme things have to get, the less likely it will be a viable option.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 12, 2018 11:21 PM  

Truces can possibly be had as well, but they are just that - temporary.

Ultimately our purposes do not and cannot align.

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