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Friday, March 09, 2018

"California represents the future"

Bankrupt and brown, apparently.
Harris took the side of states' rights when it comes to immigration. and threatened that "California's going to fight" because the state "represents the future." She also claimed the Trump administration and Sessions "in particular" have "clearly put a target on the back of California."

"This Administration and Jeff Sessions in particular have clearly put a target on the back of California and California’s going to fight," Harris proclaimed. "And, I think that these folks are really mired in rolling back the clock in time and that’s not going to happen. California represents the future. And -- and they don’t like it, but there you go."

"There’s a distraction in that they are trying to suggest that this is about the Constitution when in fact what they’re doing is they’re playing politics. They’re playing politics and they’re playing politics with California. This attorney general is doing that and he’s going to lose," Harris said.

Harris said she supported the mayor of Oakland to warn illegal immigrants of an impending ICE race because she is making a decision based on her "estimation of what’s in the best interest of their constituents."
It strikes me that the last time states' rights Democrats wanted a war, they lost. It's interesting that California politicians haven't figured out what the Chinese and North Korean politicians clearly understand, which is that it is a mistake to directly challenge the God-Emperor.

Anyhow, a war over immigration makes considerably more sense than a war over slavery. Because, as we know, immigration and war amount to the same thing in the end.

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110 Comments:

Blogger SouthRon March 09, 2018 11:10 AM  

It's about time someone put a target on California's back, they've had one on the rest of
us for decades.

Also...

If ICE raids illegals and they are her constituents, then she holds the office illegally.

Blogger Fifty Seven March 09, 2018 11:12 AM  

Pretty sure the target is the Cali's chest. It's not like Trump is doing any of this secretly or in an underhanded way.

Blogger Amy March 09, 2018 11:14 AM  

It strikes me that the last time states' rights Democrats wanted a war, they lost.

I cannot wait to quote this. Perfect.

Blogger Justin Bailey March 09, 2018 11:15 AM  

It’s time to send Mattis to California with a full military tribunal.

Blogger Zaklog the Great March 09, 2018 11:16 AM  

States have no right to decide what marriage is or even to offer protection for religious conscience. But states get to (practically speaking) make anyone they want a U.S. citizen who then gets to take advantage of the resources of all the other states. Yeah, uh huh.

But expecting anything resembling logical consistency from a leftist is like expecting a super-genius of African ancestry. It's theoretically possible, but history says it's not likely.

Blogger pyrrhus March 09, 2018 11:23 AM  

Curious how the issues of marijuana legalization and immigration have resurrected the notion of States' Rights. All Constitutional law seems to be personal....

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2018 11:29 AM  

pyrrhus wrote:All Constitutional law seems to be personal....

Personal is political, and vise-versa. For liberals, gammas and women, everything is personal, nothing matters beyond ``What about meeeeeeeeee????''

Blogger Ken Prescott March 09, 2018 11:33 AM  

Ahem.

Don't send the boys, send the toys.

Arc Light strikes on Hollywood, Malibu, and Sacramento would make even Zuckerberg realize that there's a new sheriff in town...

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2018 11:35 AM  

It strikes me that the last time states' rights Democrats wanted a war, they lost.

They're likely to lose again. That's too bad, because greatly expanding states' rights now would reduce the turmoil during the eventual dissolution of the empire.

Blogger Longtime Lurker March 09, 2018 11:40 AM  

California cannot win this fight. But it can break the country.

Blogger Stilicho March 09, 2018 11:41 AM  

Kamala "Camel-toe" Harris has to get out of Mexifornia (she hopes to higher office/more lucrative position)before De Leon and company run her out of the Democrat party leadership the way they are trying with Feinstein and the way the Somalis are doing in Mogadishu on the Mississippi. If "California is the future" then she won't have a leadership role in it. Instead, her oversized ass will be kicked "straight outta Compton" as the new overlords consolidate power.

Blogger Ransom Smith March 09, 2018 11:47 AM  

Funny thing how Yankees only care about states rights when it's something they want.
But are vehemently opposed to states rights when it's something they hate .

Poor Yankees. We tried to warn you. A powerful federal government is a tool to be exploited by whoever holds the keys

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2018 11:52 AM  

Ransom Smith wrote:Funny thing how Yankees only care about states rights when it's something they want.

But are vehemently opposed to states rights when it's something they hate .

Poor Yankees. We tried to warn you. A powerful federal government is a tool to be exploited by whoever holds the keys


I think a lot of Westerners get that, too.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope March 09, 2018 11:54 AM  

Kamala Harris loves her some illegals because of who her mother was (from India). And her father was black.
Her diversity credentials are high.

People of the right despised her as police chief in San Francisco because she loved letting cop killers go free if they were "diverse".

She is a farthest left communist, but with talented parents and can speak well and therefore is beloved of the leftists.

I have a coworker who is a rapid abortionist who was devastated that she was unable to attend Harris's recent speech due to personal illness. Yes, I have an SJW working nearby. If I were the boss, she'd be fired despite actually being about 5x more competent than the last two SJWs who held her position.

Blogger Desdichado March 09, 2018 11:56 AM  

Justin Bailey wrote:It’s time to send Mattis to California with a full military tribunal.
Pretty soon now even the dimmest bulb is going to wonder what the deal with the Oath to defend the Constitution from any enemy, foreign or domestic is. Since the military isn't doing anything as the Constitution is blatantly used as a piece of Marxist toilet paper, does that mean that they're too stupid to put their boots on the right foot and figure out what's going on? Or are they cowards, afraid to confront the "domestic" enemies in Congress and in the Courts? Or, are they complicit in the destruction of the Constitution?

When even the dumbest starts asking questions like that, the military is in big trouble with regards to moral authority.

Blogger Long Live The West March 09, 2018 11:58 AM  

"It strikes me that the last time states' rights Democrats wanted a war, they lost. It's interesting that California politicians haven't figured out what the Chinese and North Korean politicians clearly understand, which is that it is a mistake to directly challenge the God-Emperor."

It's not a mistake.

They fight him with everything they have because they know that if Trump had his way they'd all be swinging from the trees. Much like how they'd love to stick all Christians in the gulags.

Trump wasn't supposed to win the election. Someone like Trump taking office wasn't supposed to be possible. But it happened. Now they know, it's either fire up their base to impede Trump and provide cover, or leave the country. They fought long and hard to take over California, and they're not going to give it up willingly.

Blogger Matthew March 09, 2018 12:05 PM  

I was so adamant about States Rights and nullification etc. But California is literally aiding and abetting foreign invaders at the expense of the American people, time for another March to The Sea.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 09, 2018 12:08 PM  

Soon they will be eating the White Man to get his magic.

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 09, 2018 12:13 PM  

States rights are great in general, but not when it comes to immigration. You can't have California providing a gateway for undesirables who can then move unimpeded into to the rest of the country.

That's what Brexit was largely about. Illegals were entering through Italy and then marching freely across Europe into the UK.

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 12:13 PM  

> California cannot win this fight. But it can break the country.

Good. The country needs to be broken. There is no living in peace with California and New York. They need to go their own way.

Blogger Long Live The West March 09, 2018 12:13 PM  

"Funny thing how Yankees only care about states rights when it's something they want.
But are vehemently opposed to states rights when it's something they hate .

Poor Yankees. We tried to warn you. A powerful federal government is a tool to be exploited by whoever holds the keys"

The States should be able to govern themselves for the most part, but they're still under the authority of the federal government. There are certain things that should not be up to the states to decide. Immigration is one of them.

If one state is free to import immigrants and they bring them in by the millions how do you plan to keep the immigrants contained within that state and out of the other states that don't want immigrants? You can't.

It's like when feminists argue about abortion, claiming that it's 'their body their choice'. Except that they omit the fact that their decision is affecting someone else. If the actions of one state are destructive to the country as a whole then it cannot be permitted.

So yes, it is selective. Each state should be able to govern itself. But a state should not be able to govern everyone else.

Blogger Salt March 09, 2018 12:25 PM  

The Left Coast... figures.

Blogger SciVo March 09, 2018 12:34 PM  

Twist the screws until they scream, then offer to destroy the screws once and for all. Don't just not use them and leave them in place for the next leftist petty tyrant.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 09, 2018 12:36 PM  

Since we are on the topic.

Lawdog and a few others put together an anthology called Calexit

Basically California secedes and turns into Venezuela.

The rule of thumb in their version Calistan is if you are White you are guilty of whatever you have been accused of.

It feels frighteningly authentic.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 09, 2018 12:37 PM  

And no doubt foreign meddling involved

Blogger Demonic Professor El March 09, 2018 12:38 PM  

I consider California to have seceded when it started mulling treaties with nations outside the purview of the federal government. In addition, they have public officials explicitly aiding criminals evade US marshals, ICE, and police - which is technically sedition, possibly treason depending on the gang affiliations of those illegals. This is basically their version of Dred Scot and the Fugitive Slave Laws (California often attempts to confiscate waters and other resources from other states and have tried to charge California state and business taxes on other states' businesses).

California is de facto an independent nation already.

Except, they depend on the rest of the country to fuel their idiot politicians, so de jure secession may not happen.

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 09, 2018 12:40 PM  

@24 I should note that there is a graphic novel beneath that anthology also titled Calexit.

Do not mistake the one for the Other. The Other promises to "return comics to it's fascist punching roots."

What if a fascist, autocratic President took over the United States? And what if that President lost California, the sixth largest economy on Earth, by nearly 2-to-1... a margin of almost 3 1/2 million votes? What if the day after that President took power, the largest mass demonstration in history occurred, and the state with the largest turnout was California. And then, the following week, two of the largest international airports in the world, California's LAX and SFO, were blockaded by protesters? What if California refused to be ruled? From the creators of YOUNG TERRORISTS, Matteo Pizzolo (GODKILLER) and Amancay Nahuelpan (CLANDESTINO), comes this tale of resisting oppression, punching Nazis, protecting each other, kicking ass, and demanding liberty for all.

This sounds so awful, I am half tempted to buy it just for the LULZ but that would mean giving money to ANTIFA assholes and that isn't happening.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 09, 2018 12:41 PM  

Civil Rights law violations

Blogger Brett baker March 09, 2018 12:41 PM  

No, another March Through the Carolinas, way more more destructive(And fun for the troops).

Blogger Brett baker March 09, 2018 12:42 PM  

No, another March Through the Carolinas, way more more destructive(And fun for the troops).

Blogger Chris Mallory March 09, 2018 12:45 PM  

Build the wall, turn off the water and let them go. Give Hawaii it's independence as well. Get rid of all our island holdings.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 09, 2018 12:45 PM  

Brett baker wrote:No, another March Through the Carolinas, way more more destructive(And fun for the troops).

Sherman is roasting in hell where he belongs. A shame he didn't hang.

Anonymous Anonymous March 09, 2018 12:46 PM  

I look forward to the burning of Los Angeles. Napalm should do the trick.

--ZhukovG

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 09, 2018 12:47 PM  

Regardless, their dreams of secession will annoyingly be permanently blocked by their fellow Democrats across the country.

Electoral College - California = Permanent Republican Rule.

They won't allow California to go.

Blogger DonReynolds March 09, 2018 12:48 PM  

The Lincoln Playbook still has a number of intact solutions for dealing with those states in Rebellion and a number of equally valuable solutions for dealing with those (border) states that are considering Rebellion or Secession. I say these are intact, because neither the Judiciary or the Congress have refused or repudiated any of the Lincoln Playbook, even when it was directly prohibited by the US Constitution....as was the case with West Virginia.

I am sure Obama never imagined that his victory over the state of Arizona forged the hammer and tongs that would be used to completely shut down the sanctuary cities and states. When it comes to immigration, there are NO states rights. The Federal authority is not merely supreme, they are a friggin monopoly when it comes to immigration.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 09, 2018 12:49 PM  

"Basically California secedes and turns into Venezuela"

Consider that California now has a similar ethnic makeup to Venezuela.

Blogger freddie_mac March 09, 2018 12:51 PM  

I admit to being bewildered by the lack of intellect and reading comprehension among Californians and liberals (but I repeat myself):

1. Nullification was already decided and, as Vox pointed out, the Dems lost

2. Immigration law: Under Obama, it was determined that immigration law is a federal responsibility, not state. Remember Jan Brewer (AZ), who was sued for trying to enforce federal immigration laws on the state level? Oh right --- "that's different." Maybe when Obama was in office, but (psst!) there's a new sheriff in town ...

Idiots. Can we put the Californians on boats and sink those?

Blogger dienw March 09, 2018 1:06 PM  

Sitting here in North Carolina watching the lawless state courts rule in favor of the Democratic Party and Roy Cooper and watching that the Federal courts also decided in favor of the Democrats in regard to DACA, not the Constitution; so I am going to bet lower Federal courts will agree with California; I will also bet that the Supreme Court will be a tight 5-4 decision: it may even rule in favor of Democrats/California.

At which point it will become hilarious to watch any one of the Republican governors in Arizona, New Mexico, or Texas thinking that the states actually have a right to control immigration will decide he can build the wall for his state: the Federal courts all the way to the Supreme Court will rule the states do not have a right control immigration; but the California ruling will stand.

Yes, it is far fetched; but the rule of law no longer exists.

Blogger Latigo3 March 09, 2018 1:06 PM  

This is a fight that California cannot win. I am glad that Trump is doing what he is doing, the local radio stations were all talking about the recent visit and law suit by Jeff Sessions. We shall see, where this all leads. Jerry Brown, Kamal Harris, Libby Schaaf I don't know what planet they are living on. Yes, California has turned stupid brown. Everywhere the Leftist browns have been, they have ruined; from Maywood to Sacramento. It will be interesting to see how these idiot politicians plan on fighting this "war".

Blogger William Warren March 09, 2018 1:17 PM  

Don't forget about Maryland. They are trying their damndest to follow California's lead.

Blogger JACIII March 09, 2018 1:19 PM  

They no they will lose. This is all maintaining political office in California. They are probably secretly glad to lose.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 09, 2018 1:22 PM  

I agree Jac, no one hates a fellow Democratic voter like another Democratic voter

Blogger Robert March 09, 2018 1:25 PM  

Why does this make me think of California state troopers stopping the Okies from crossing the border in Dust Bowl times? States can control their borders if they really want to. And the Feds can close off the California borders and let it fill up with all of Latin America, plus Africa and Asia.

Blogger otwelmr March 09, 2018 1:28 PM  

It seems to me that this is a win-win for Americans. Either sessions wins and the liberals lose on a major point, or California wins and states’ right gains a huge victory resulting is many other issues dropping back to the jurisdiction of the states as well.

Blogger Desdichado March 09, 2018 1:28 PM  

California is de facto an independent nation already.

Except, they depend on the rest of the country to fuel their idiot politicians,


So the nation that it most closely resembles is Israel?

Blogger Akulkis March 09, 2018 1:44 PM  

@Stilicho

The Mexicans already kicked the blacks out of Compton over a decade ago.

Blogger TroubleSpeak March 09, 2018 1:55 PM  

OT: what happened to your books on the google play store? I bought Innocence & Intellect about half a year ago on the play store and was going to buy Crisis & Conceit today, and now neither ebook can be found.

Blogger Akulkis March 09, 2018 1:57 PM  

The Constitution gives the states ZERO rights regarding immigration, other than to enforce the federal law.

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 2:04 PM  

> Electoral College - California = Permanent Republican Rule.

I never said I didn't have ulterior motives for supporting their leaving.

Blogger weka March 09, 2018 2:10 PM  

The calexit books are good.and this will not end well.
Cut the water and federal dunfund first. Then a marchbthrouma the desert.
Mattia will need Kratman running his judge adcocatad so there is the proper inquisitorial rigour

Blogger weka March 09, 2018 2:10 PM  

Funding. Mea culpa

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 2:12 PM  

From https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/03/08/california-governor-sessions-doj-lawsuit-is-an-act-of-war-n2458765

"This is basically going to war against the state of California," said Brown.

Oh, not yet Jerry. But keep it up, we'll get there.

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 2:14 PM  

Another possible benefit of calexit? I wonder how many of the judges on the ninth district are Californians and will no longer be eligible to serve?

Blogger The Smoking Man #3424 March 09, 2018 2:16 PM  

dienw wrote:

At which point it will become hilarious to watch any one of the Republican governors in Arizona, New Mexico, or Texas thinking that the states actually have a right to control immigration will decide he can build the wall for his state:


AZ will have to invade New Mex to erect the wall along their border

Blogger Jule March 09, 2018 2:32 PM  

Trump is God's warning shot across the bow. Repent or be destroyed is the message. God is preparing to clean house. Today is the day to prepare to meet God.

Blogger Chiva March 09, 2018 2:36 PM  

The State of Jefferson abides.

Blogger Lovekraft March 09, 2018 2:39 PM  

Every candidate should give their position of GloboJihad (no, we haven't and never will ignore this). If they hem and haw, we know that in this basic and pressing matter, their cowardice means they won't have the backbone to stand up for anything less important.

If they call a spade a spade, we back them fully and press forward.

By press forward, I used jihad as a sprinboard to criticizing mass immigration, secret Soros-money, political correctness etc etc.

Blogger Jack Sweater March 09, 2018 2:41 PM  

I have mixed feelings on this.

On the one hand, I agree with Trump and I think California is way out of touch with the rest of the country.

On the other hand, being a southerner who has direct genealogy to those in Lee’s army, and sort of bred with a states’ rights view, I think it quite possible that the nation is just too large and too diverse to be under federal rule in Washington DC.

The interests may be too diverse at this point, is the breaking up of the union really that bad of an idea?

Would a set of independent federations not be more governable and appropriate to human scale?

I don’t think the Civil War was just about slavery, I think it was also the fact that the north and the south had to come to separate civilizations.

Has California not become it’s own civilization as well at this point, and doesn’t really benefit the rest of the country or California to be a part of this federal system?

It’s interesting because I would imagine that most right wing folks want to lay the hammer down Lincoln style on California, but down here in South Carolina (the first state to secede and where secession is still viewed as a political right by many) there are those who are of the right who would wish them to secede and simplify govern themselves, for better or worse.

Thoughts?

Blogger Desdichado March 09, 2018 2:50 PM  

@58: Of course California has become it's own civilization. A Jewish-led Hispanic civilization built on the backs of the whites who established the foundation.

Get the Fake Americans out of California, and you'll be surprised how little difference remains between it and the rest of the American west.

Blogger Lovekraft March 09, 2018 2:50 PM  

California used to be where fantasies were produced for the masses. Now imagine someone who lives there and sees the disfunction (failing schools, minority enclaves, homelessness, mental illness, wealth disparity).

What would happen to someone like a liberal/marxist who can no longer see his surroundings as normal? Well, first they blame Trumphitler, then they start forming antifa unions and hunt down the wrongpeople. Mass panic and rioting is around the corner.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah March 09, 2018 3:01 PM  

It's interesting that California politicians haven't figured out what the Chinese and North Korean politicians clearly understand, which is that it is a mistake to directly challenge the God-Emperor.

California Democrats are Dumber than North Korean politicians. Smug entitlement like no other. Sooner we build the wall, the sooner we can clean up Mexifornia

Blogger DonReynolds March 09, 2018 3:05 PM  

@58 Jack Sweater

A good many Southerners....in 1861, as well as today....want the system of government guaranteed by the original constitution. Yes, that included limits on Federal power and authority and jurisdiction. Limits that no longer seem to apply. Yes, what remains after Federal powers is specifically reserved for the states (and the People).

But even under the original US Constitution, there was no state authority over immigration and there never has been. The Constitution says the rules will be UNIFORM and that necessarily means one set of rules and none of those rules are state rules. There never existed states rights when it pertained to immigration, most particularly since every American is free to travel from one state to another.

California is wrong in so many ways....signing foreign treaties (explicitly forbidden), attempting to eclipse Federal immigration laws, giving refuge and sanctuary to criminals and outlaws (who are wanted in other states or fugitives from Federal justice), allowing millions of illegal aliens and other non-citizens to vote in Federal, state and local elections,....there is no end to the list of complaints against California government.

My own not-too-distant blood relative...John Reynolds of Decaturville, Tennessee....rode with Nathan Bedford Forrest and survived the war. Otherwise, I would not be here.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club March 09, 2018 3:08 PM  

@46 - When I lived in the Bay Area in the 90's, there was already a great deal of hand-wringing over the displacement of blacks from San Francisco, and the process has only sped up in the intervening years. Even the former black bastions in the East Bay are being lightened now and their former residents are ending up in Tracy and Stockton. Harris is "playing politics" with "constituents" who will be thrilled when she and the rest of her sad band are finally walled off in the foothills in the final paroxysms of the Great California Bantu Retraction.

Blogger Timmy3 March 09, 2018 3:33 PM  

I would love to see Trump kick Harris to the curb. She deserves it. She has Presidential ambitions as well.

Blogger JohnR219 March 09, 2018 3:38 PM  

OT - Is Alpha Game gone?

Blogger Akulkis March 09, 2018 3:42 PM  

Arc Light on Sacramento would solve a lot of problems, followed by the same teetreatm for Berzerkely, Oakland and San Fransisco

Blogger Akulkis March 09, 2018 3:45 PM  

The only reason we ever have wanted Hawaii is for Pearl Harbor's nearly-enclosed anchorage. If it weren't for that, Hawaii would have never been a territorial holding.

Blogger Jack Sweater March 09, 2018 3:46 PM  

Thanks Don.

I think that really clarifies the situation and justifies my longing for justice when it comes to California LOL and sort of rejoicing at what Trump is doing.

I just had to work those disparate ideas out my head, but I think you were right when you said immigration is the big issue here. But the other things you mentioned seem pretty big as well.

I do think we need to get back to the original intent of the constitution. Which Lincoln bastardized.

As for me, my Dads line goes back to J.E.B. Stuart, my dad actually looks almost like him.

Blogger Mr. Smith March 09, 2018 3:57 PM  

@58

I've often argued your viewpoint myself, especially over the last 10-15 years.
As an example, my children are natives of Arizona. The culture of the Southwest is what they know (for good or for bad), besides a common language (that is also noticeably starting to diverge) what do they really have in common with kids their age in New England?
I think a lot of Americans forget how incredibly vast CONUS actually is. The distance between Phoenix and Boston is slightly under 2,300 miles, as the crow flies. Overlay that distance on a map of Europe, where Phoenix is replaced with Lisbon, Portugal. 2,300 miles later puts you a hundred miles shy of Moscow. Draw a straight line between those two and you will cross over Portugal, Spain, France, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, the Czech Republic, Poland, and Belarus. All of which have their own customs, history, language, beliefs, government systems, etc., etc.

Blogger Akulkis March 09, 2018 4:01 PM  

California doesn't want to secede, they want the test of us to pay for their insults against us.

Blogger Jack Sweater March 09, 2018 4:03 PM  

Absolutely. My understanding of constitutional republic is that it is best functioning two smaller scale, a human scale. I think right now we are a constitutional republic In name only. Besides military might, are we really gaining by retaining such a large union? Are distinct federations preferable or foreseeable In the near future?

Blogger SirHamster March 09, 2018 4:05 PM  

JohnR219 wrote:OT - Is Alpha Game gone?

Vox was done blogging there, but turned it over to someone else.

New blogposts were sporadic, last one is from 2/28. Removal of blog link from VP sidebar is new.

Blogger Aeoli Pera March 09, 2018 4:38 PM  

OT: Anonymous Conservative is currently down.

Blogger jandolin March 09, 2018 4:44 PM  

California spends 23 billion dollars on illegal aliens annually. Latino politicians have gained power and wealth as illegals poured into the state and turned into a third world hellhole. The rest of the country has been subsidizing the reckless and irresponsible policies of the Cali politicians through the tax code which allowed Californians to write off mortgage payments on obscenely priced houses.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 09, 2018 5:11 PM  

If California claims it spends $23 billion a year on illegals, the real number is easily triple that amount.

Blogger Nate March 09, 2018 5:15 PM  

I love being lectured by people running the only state that's incapable of maintaining an electrical grid...

Blogger Jack Amok March 09, 2018 5:18 PM  

I love being lectured by people running the only state that's incapable of maintaining an electrical grid...

Well yeah, but at least their dams aren't falling apart. Oh, wait...

Blogger Jack Amok March 09, 2018 5:27 PM  

Get the Fake Americans out of California, and you'll be surprised how little difference remains between it and the rest of the American west.

This is very true. Also, CA, like Seattle/Portland and the NE seaboard, has a Globalism Infection, something coastal cities are susceptible to. They make a lot of money through international trade, which fosters globalist thinking. A man has a hard time voting against his paycheck. If we kicked out the Fake Americans and reduced the financial importance of overseas trade (thereby re-balancing finances between the coasts and the interior), CA would be a whole lot saner.

Blogger Nate March 09, 2018 5:29 PM  

"Get the Fake Americans out of California, and you'll be surprised how little difference remains between it and the rest of the American west."

horse shit. California has been retarded since Compton was a rich white neighborhood.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 09, 2018 6:05 PM  

And the Californians who were the most sickened by what their state has become have already left.

Blogger James March 09, 2018 6:11 PM  

"California represents the future. Bankrupt and brown, apparently."

Don't forget transgender and pedophiliac.

Anonymous Anonymous March 09, 2018 6:11 PM  

"If I were the boss, she'd be fired despite actually being about 5x more competent than the last two SJWs who held her position."

Of course even 5 times a tiny number is still very small.

Or, alternately, clearing a very low bar is not all that hard.

Blogger VD March 09, 2018 6:16 PM  

OT: what happened to your books on the google play store? I bought Innocence & Intellect about half a year ago on the play store and was going to buy Crisis & Conceit today, and now neither ebook can be found.

Macmillan shut down Pronoun. So, it's on Amazon now.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 09, 2018 6:27 PM  

dienw wrote:At which point it will become hilarious to watch any one of the Republican governors in Arizona, New Mexico, or Texas thinking that the states actually have a right to control immigration will decide he can build the wall for his state: the Federal courts all the way to the Supreme Court will rule the states do not have a right control immigration; but the California ruling will stand.
Actually, the governors of any of those states could royally f**k over the status quo -- for example, (NM and AZ have similar) consider this portion of the TX Constitution:

Art 4, Sec. 7. GOVERNOR AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF MILITARY FORCES.
He shall be Commander-in-Chief of the military forces of the State, except when they are called into actual service of the United States. He shall have power to call forth the militia to execute the laws of the State, to suppress insurrections, and to repel invasions.


So, consider the ramifications of the TX governor declaring that there is indeed a state of invasion, calling up the TX National Guard to secure both the border and cities of TX, and asserting that the Federal Government must honor Art 4, Sec 4 ("The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.").

Blogger kmbr March 09, 2018 6:41 PM  

**Soon they will be eating the White Man to get his magic.**

Pretty close to my thoughts. California is just an interim period.

Moving quickly into a sort of Brazil minus the, let's call it, appreciation of whiteness Brazil enjoys.

Followed by end stage: living off the carcass of what once was, ethnic cleansing, total infrastructure failure and, eventually, reversal to natural state of the people who live there with some remnants of Western culture (decaying buildings, western aid clothes, phased out weaponry, etc,). See parts of Africa and Detroit for a partial glimpse.

Blogger Are W March 09, 2018 6:56 PM  

And yet there is only a slim chance that Sessions will prevail.

Blogger Nate March 09, 2018 7:01 PM  

"And yet there is only a slim chance that Sessions will prevail."

HAHAHAHAHA

You idiot. We will literally roll tanks into California. The courts are just the FedGov giving you a chance to save your dignity.

Blogger Avalanche March 09, 2018 7:06 PM  

@69 "I think a lot of Americans forget how incredibly vast CONUS actually is."

When I got out of the Navy, I drove across this country (through West Virginia (so it did exist, Nate!) dropping down into Texas and AZ (it was the depth of winter).

Astonishing! For the, like, THREE DAYS that I spent driving at 60 mph (I'm not much of a speeder) -- across the great flat tan stretch with NOTHING but this teeny smudge of mountains at the far far horizon -- I kept trying to imagine being one of the settlers WALKING alongside their ox carts for weeks hoping to reach that smudge before the water ran out. If you've not done that drive, you have NO idea!!

Helluva a country -- so they must go back!

Blogger Jack Sweater March 09, 2018 7:07 PM  

How long do you give it before it goes into FREE Fall?

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 7:17 PM  

> (so it did exist, Nate!)

It's not that territory doesn't exist, it's that the state itself is illegitimate. It's all actually Virginia. Though the legislature seated in Charleston is the rightful legislature of the state, not the one in Richmond. Victory does have it's benefits.

Blogger Hammerli280 March 09, 2018 8:27 PM  

I would not be terribly surprised to see this degenerate into a shooting crisis. It won't last long enough to be a war, California isn't the CSA. And hasn't the integrity to pass a Bill of Secession before giving the Federal Government the finger. Breaking the rebellion would take only a few air strikes, plus some SPECOPS work. Declare the state of insurrection, shoot the ringleaders, take over governance. When there's a riot (and there will be one), cut off the power, food, and water...and wait three weeks.

The amusing part is the the Virginia/West Virginia division sets up a nifty solution...breakup. California gets broken up into the States of Jefferson (northern CA), a Central Valley state (everything south of the SF-Sacramento axis and north of the San Gabriel range), possibly a San Diego state (which possibly gets tagged onto Arizona). And the SF Bay and Greater Los Angeles areas. Those are under military government while the rebellion is suppressed. After which voting will be restricted only to citizens of proven loyalty.

The days of California being a Democrat stronghold will be over.

Blogger DonReynolds March 09, 2018 8:53 PM  

@68 Jack Sweater

"As for me, my Dads line goes back to J.E.B. Stuart, my dad actually looks almost like him."

All great and handsome people, I am certain.

John Reynolds and his family were grist millers and they had a mill in Decatur county until it was burned by Union cavalry. The grist stone was pulled from the ashes and moved by wagon to Mountain Home, Arkansas. They built a new mill.

Blogger tuberman March 09, 2018 9:00 PM  

They need ICE to remain Cool!

Blogger The Stygian March 09, 2018 11:53 PM  

John Calhoun tested the rights of the states versus the federal government. He lost. The south was in a much better position than California. They lost and cost this country a lot of lives and great military leaders. California needs to understand that the GE is not interested in short term rebellion as he positions and prepares the dogs of war for consumption. People he is playing 3D chess versus checker champions.

Blogger Jack Sweater March 10, 2018 12:47 AM  

I don’t see the south losing as a good thing. Lincoln (ie the Radical Republicans) is to blame for invading the sovereign states.

Blogger Paradox March 10, 2018 12:59 AM  

The despot Lincoln and the Union cost the North and South lives. It wasn’t a civil war. The South wanted Independence just the way the 13 colonies each INDIVIDUALLY won from Britain. The US was never one universal government. It was a federation of states. Think the UN. Would you not fight UN blue helmets if they invaded? That’s what the South didn’t when the North invaded.

Blogger Dire Badger March 10, 2018 2:10 AM  

Jack Sweater wrote:I have mixed feelings on this.

On the one hand, I agree with Trump and I think California is way out of touch with the rest of the country.

On the other hand, being a southerner who has direct genealogy to those in Lee’s army, and sort of bred with a states’ rights view, I think it quite possible that the nation is just too large and too diverse to be under federal rule in Washington DC.

The interests may be too diverse at this point, is the breaking up of the union really that bad of an idea?

Would a set of independent federations not be more governable and appropriate to human scale?

I don’t think the Civil War was just about slavery, I think it was also the fact that the north and the south had to come to separate civilizations.

Has California not become it’s own civilization as well at this point, and doesn’t really benefit the rest of the country or California to be a part of this federal system?

It’s interesting because I would imagine that most right wing folks want to lay the hammer down Lincoln style on California, but down here in South Carolina (the first state to secede and where secession is still viewed as a political right by many) there are those who are of the right who would wish them to secede and simplify govern themselves, for better or worse.

Thoughts?


It's very, Very simple

The federal government was enumerated with 3 purposes. I am totally onboard with state's rights, except for those 3 purposes.

Support the constitution and it's amendments (Which the fed has failed at abysmally... where's New York's 2nd amendment?)
Regulate interstate commerce (Which the Fed has failed at again... in the other direction. EVERYTHING is interstate commerce now!)

And last but not least, provide for the common defense.

Immigration falls squarely under that last.
Technically the Fed has failed at that as well... who protects our most helpless and innocent citizens? Planned Parenthood, that's who. Controlling the borders, maintaining a military, and keeping up a nationwide force for dealing with crimes or fugitives across state lines is also in that category. At least the US Marshalls are still fairly decent.

Blogger mike myfree March 10, 2018 4:17 AM  

James Dixon wrote:> California cannot win this fight. But it can break the country.

Good. The country needs to be broken. There is no living in peace with California and New York. They need to go their own way.


They can go into a prison where they belong, we paid for every inch of those states with blood, from 1771-to today.

WE build everything there, we secured it from invaders/hostile tribes, if anyone is leaving its the communist trouble makers and their imported pests.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales March 10, 2018 8:37 AM  

@98

Here! And if they do somehow manage to get away, I'm all for the sampson option american style, because the idea of vox sitting pretty in europe while america is fragmented fills me with as much disgust and contempt as california and new york.

Blogger Crew March 10, 2018 10:18 AM  

Turns out the shooter in the Veterans Home killings was not white!

Am I being paranoid in thinking the media is hiding that info? No photo and the detail is buried deep in the article.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/10/gunman-3-hostages-reported-dead-at-california-veterans-home.html

Maybe their new found respect for Trump has them trying to avoid upsetting his negotiations with China!

Blogger Crew March 10, 2018 10:25 AM  

Well, turns out I was wrong. You can find his photo:

https://heavy.com/news/2018/03/albert-wong-yountville-shooter-gunman-suspect-veterans-home-shooting/

And NewsWeek is giving him the "Decorated Hero" treatment who sadly went wrong.

Blogger James Dixon March 10, 2018 11:16 AM  

> WE build everything there, we secured it from invaders/hostile tribes, if anyone is leaving its the communist trouble makers and their imported pests.

I'd guess that within 50 years they'll be begging to be let back in, on our terms.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd March 10, 2018 11:22 AM  

I left because they are all concerned with gaining their 20 year letter.

Blogger Nate73 March 10, 2018 11:31 AM  

Compton used to be white?

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 10, 2018 12:56 PM  

My mother in law graduated from Compton Polytechnic High. It was a blue-collar high school, with excellent secretarial and shop classes.

She was a Rose Bowl princess, very regal looking. Striking blue eyes, elegant bone structure.

A year or so after she graduated it was integrated, and is now the shameful cesspool you are familiar with.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 10, 2018 12:58 PM  

I might add, it had an excellent reputation for education. Until her mind was taken, she thought all the details of American history were obviously known by everyone. "We don't get upset with the British for burning down Washington...." Um, I didn't get taught about the War of 1812. She did.

She was a housewife raising one son. She volunteered at local schools to teach kids to read and do math.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 10, 2018 1:01 PM  

I might add, it had an excellent reputation for education. Until her mind was taken, she thought all the details of American history were obviously known by everyone. "We don't get upset with the British for burning down Washington...." Um, I didn't get taught about the War of 1812. She did.

She was a housewife raising one son. She volunteered at local schools to teach kids to read and do math.

Blogger Sardaukar March 10, 2018 1:16 PM  

Although Kratman may have fallen out of favor with some, his plan on what to do with California does have merit.

‘California secede so that we can recognize it, mobilize against it, invade it, conquer it, crush it, execute the ringleaders (after a trial, of course!) and then restructure as a territory sin suffragio en perpetua, never to be allowed to vote in any national elections like Guam and Puerto Rico’.

Might add allow San Diego (up to Camp Pendleton) to become part of Arizona and the Imperial valley to be absorbed by Nevada. Maybe allow Northern California to become the State of Jefferson or just have them absorbed by Oregon and / or Nevada.

Blogger Thucydides March 12, 2018 1:25 AM  

California is perhaps the exception to the "Island Hopping" campaign model of a hot American Civil War. It is too large to be isolated to die on the vine (the serfs can be impressed and forced into the central valley to farm for the masters, as a minimum), and certain areas, particularly borders, must be cleared and secured to prevent the further importation of manpower, weapons or money. I think we can all agree that a hot American Civil War is something every enemy of the United States is going to want to be in on, and flooding California with "advisors" or smuggling high tech weapons (emphasizing chemicals, psychoactive drugs and computer malware over more traditional guns, artillery and logistics) is perhaps one of the best way for California's "armies" of gangbangers, identity group thugs (Antifa, BLM, MS-13 and the Islamists) to slow down or even prevent the Reconquista by US forces.

So expect hard fighting as the souther border is cleared and secured, and naval patrols attempt to blockade smuggling of aid and comfort to the secessionists. Also expect horrific casualties in the built up areas between both soldiers and civilians, and through factional fighting among Identity Groups. Breaking the shattered remains into three or five States after the area has been secured and the invaders expelled is really the end result of secession.

Anonymous Anonymous March 13, 2018 8:42 PM  

Thucydides, California is extremely dependent on just-in-time delivery of essentials like electric power (from as far away as BC), natural gas and even water.  Shutting down the power lines and pipelines would have the state in collapse within a day.  Being mild in winter, the state does not have the depth of backup fuel stores which kept the northeastern grid running during the New Years cold snap.  You have some natural gas reservoirs like the one which blew in Aliso Canyon, and that's probably it.  The state probably doesn't have the capability to switch its power plants to oil even if it has the oil.

Take out the Pacific and Intermountain interties and CA is in deep doo-doo almost instantly.  Shut down the NG pipelines and that's it.

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