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Sunday, March 25, 2018

From the chans

I cannot verify any of this. I am merely passing it along from one of my sources.

The President signed the bill because the military needed to be funded. They're going to have some big jobs this year: war with Iran, rounding up most of the Obama administration to stand trial in front of military tribunals, and keeping domestic order when the roundup happens. The midterms are going to be utterly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. That means the roundup will happen before then and the DNC will be struggling with things other than running for office.

My understanding is that the war with Iran will not be direct, but will be more of a massive support operation for the Gulf Cooperation Council. Which means that it is essentially the Israeli-Sunni alliance against the Shi'ites.

I don't like hearing that, not one little bit, but another Gulf war would be immensely preferable to the war with Russia that the neocons have recently been pushing. Of course, given the Russo-Iranian alliance, it could easily expand into that.

Anyhow, as always, we will see what we will see.

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175 Comments:

Blogger exfarmkid March 25, 2018 4:13 PM  

"as always, we will see what we will see.

Indeed.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) March 25, 2018 4:13 PM  

War with Iran is such an obviously bad idea

Blogger Daniel Bendele March 25, 2018 4:14 PM  

VD wrote: "and keeping domestic order when the roundup happens."


Time to get out of DC. That's a remarkable timetable for things to kick into high gear.

Blogger Zarathustra's Bastard March 25, 2018 4:15 PM  

And here's me hoping he'd use that military budget to fund the Wall.

Blogger Jack Ward March 25, 2018 4:19 PM  

If round up can we not include our Obama, regardless the horse crap about presidential privilege and all? The obvious traitor, he should be first on the list. Of course it would set a precedent that might backfire; badly. Brings thoughts of one of the plot themes from Kratman's 'State of Disobedience'

Blogger Lazarus March 25, 2018 4:19 PM  

There does not have to be a shooting war. It could be a pacification program like the one ongoing with the Norks.

Its all supposed to be a done deal by the time of the Big Parade [11/11]

It is of course all speculation til Yogi Berra sez it's over.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 25, 2018 4:22 PM  

From my understanding, the mullahs in Iran are severely weakened. It's argued that the riots in Iran are a sign of this. I'm taking a shot and entertaining the idea that MbS is asserting Saudi influence in the region with the aid and blessings of Israel; that Iranian proxies (Hezbollah and Hamas) are being neutralized. If all these things be true, I'm not concerned for, at worst, the US will provide a type of covert support which serves as, well, a supporting role and not a dominant role.

It's hard for me to ingest the proverbial "black pill" because of all the things going on. Sessions opened investigations into the last administration. Horowitz appears to be on the cusp of dropping is report which, by many accounts, will be a crippling blow to the DNC (think midterms). If Q is to be believed, it's entirely possible that Mueller will produce findings that discredit the Trump collusion narrative AND deal a crippling blow to the DNC (think the relationship between Manafort and Podesta).

I still got that feeling and it's not caused by some faith in the mystical. Too many things are afoot that prevent me from giving any audience to pessimism at this time.

Blogger kurt9 March 25, 2018 4:24 PM  

No, I don't like us getting into another Middle-eastern war either, even if its an indirect role. Our fracking revolution has made us energy independent. There is no reason for us to involve ourselves politically in the Middle-east any longer.

Blogger Jew613 March 25, 2018 4:24 PM  

Iran would be a tough opponent in a direct war. The country's large with plenty of mountains and a population that's long been ready for war.

Maybe a massive CIA campaign to sow discord and internal fighting rather then an American or Sunni invasion.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 4:25 PM  

I'm hoping that there will be a war with Iran, and we will stay out of it. Passing this awful budget at least spares us from the speculation that we are staying out because we can't afford it.

Blogger LP999-16 March 25, 2018 4:32 PM  

Good to document and track, wait and see.

Blogger Antony March 25, 2018 4:33 PM  

A war with Iran will just be at the Neo-Con/Israeli lobbies behest - USA and the West should stay out of it as it is not in our interest. The best meme/idea to float would be for Iran to give up it's nuclear weapons programme in return for Israel giving up it's illegally held nukes - with both sides being subject to rigorous inspection - that way we get a nuclear free middle east.

On a related note, Israel claim not to have the man power to take on Iran - the question to ask and meme to float would be that according to wiki, 23 million Jews have the right of return to Israel - voila, they have enough troops ! - surely they were not expecting the goyim to die for "God's Chosen People" yet again ?! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

Blogger Eduardo March 25, 2018 4:36 PM  

So Iran is not going to become like CSAT? damn t_t no 2035 NATO drawback!

But if this rumour is true does that mean the Neo-cons have a tremendous strong arm in American Politics no? Any other evidence of this incoming war?

I remember this dude called Brother Nathaniel, he is Orthodox Christian and Anti-Zionism Jew, that said that Mattis actually is an Israel operative of sorts, that Trump would definately go to war in Middle-East again.

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I vote for a Brazilian attack in US soil... yes, we will drop shitty music via hacks in all y'all radio stations, then you can come and arrest all our government. Don't worry they are all Leftards and I guess we might go to war before you guys the way things are going here, so this would be a major boost for us.

I mean I just read a Communist dude saying that Venezuela is... rich.

Blogger APL March 25, 2018 4:39 PM  

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Blogger John Best March 25, 2018 4:40 PM  

The Americans will support all three sides in the Middle east against each other. An Iran-Gulf states war is what will happen, as Turkey moves into Syria and Iraq, not a lot Iran can do about it. However it can sure up its position in the Gulf, which Israel doesn't want. In the end Turkey will be the dominate power, Israel will be fine and Iran pushed out.

Blogger APL March 25, 2018 4:44 PM  

" but another Gulf war would be immensely preferable to the war with Russia "

Well, f**k me if we didn't need more Moslem refugees. Or the Yazidi hadn't quite been genocided yet.


" I don't like hearing that, not one little bit, but another Gulf war would be immensely preferable to the war with Russia that the neocons have recently been pushing. Of course, given the Russo-Iranian alliance, it could easily expand into that."

So the neocons get two wars for the price of one, Result!. Didn't people support Trump 'coz he said he wasn't into all that shit?

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) March 25, 2018 4:50 PM  

So the neocons get two wars for the price of one, Result!. Didn't people support Trump 'coz he said he wasn't into all that shit?

Two wars for the price of one is an offer they just can't refuse

Blogger Teleros March 25, 2018 4:52 PM  

"My understanding is that the war with Iran will not be direct, but will be more of a massive support operation for the Gulf Cooperation Council. Which means that it is essentially the Israeli-Sunni alliance against the Shi'ites."

Not the best of news, but in all honesty I don't like the idea of ANY Muslims with nukes, given their religion. Pity it's too late to stop Pakistan for that matter.

Blogger pyrrhus March 25, 2018 4:52 PM  

" I don't like hearing that, not one little bit, but another Gulf war would be immensely preferable to the war with Russia that the neocons have recently been pushing. Of course, given the Russo-Iranian alliance, it could easily expand into that."
I can't see there being a war with Iran without western troops..the Saudis can't even beat Yemen. And apparently Russia is already providing rather advanced SAM systems to Iran. Iran already has some pretty dangerous wave skimming missiles ...Iran is a Russian ally and has a Russian ethnic minority...
Nope, not a go unless Trump is willing to fight, and lose a war with Russia, aided by China.

Blogger Crush Limbraw March 25, 2018 4:54 PM  

If true- sure fits the scenario of Trump wanting the military leadership on his side because DaSwamp is yuuuge.
Also, if there is a roundup of the usual suspects, look for Porky and the Soros mobots out in force - but that's what it will take to giterdone!

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 25, 2018 4:55 PM  

Hate to break it to you but Gulf nukes are inevitable. The leverage is who provides them. If you go full Libertarian, Russia will add Saudi Arabia as a nuclear client state.

Blogger pyrrhus March 25, 2018 4:56 PM  

Iran borders Russia, and is fairly close to China...The rapidly declining Anglo-Zionist alliance will not be allowed to turn it into another nuclear armed forward base, under any circumstances.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville March 25, 2018 4:56 PM  

What VD is hearing matches what I'm reading in various places.

Proxy support for SA's war against Iran was probably the quid pro quo from MBS to help root out the globalists.

Blogger Eduardo March 25, 2018 4:59 PM  

@19

But still they haven't used it yet. So mayyyyybe they are not that crazy after all huh?

Blogger pyrrhus March 25, 2018 4:59 PM  

@8 Our fracking revolution has made us energy independent.

Hardly...The US still imports close to 10 million bpd, net. Huge negative factor on our Balance of Payments.

Blogger ant becker March 25, 2018 5:02 PM  

Fuck off USA.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 25, 2018 5:03 PM  

Maybe some of those pricey Deep State assets can be used to sow dissent in Iran, rather than here.

More seriously, I really want out of the Middle East. That said, the scale on which all these events are interconnected makes me hesitant to react too strongly one way or the other to events in isolation.

The omnibus funding power is six months. By the end of that, it will be clear where he stands.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 25, 2018 5:04 PM  

"Of course, given the Russo-Iranian alliance, it could easily expand into that."

A question of time.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 5:04 PM  

War with Iran.

Israel gets more $$$ for border security than Americans.

Tax cuts for Wall Street.

No Wall.

Swamp not drained.

Nationalists and populists removed from all major Internet platforms.

Sessions bragging about prosecuting more whites for “hate crimes.”

Trump bragging about gun control.

Anyone else tired of all the (((winning))) yet?

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 5:05 PM  

This "War" was certain from the time the God Emperor went to that Sword Dance in SA, and a deal was cut right then. Who gets what?

1) Trump and the USA got the major strings cut for the money of most of the Congressional and Deep State bribery. That money came from SA, and was immediately cut off.
2)SA gets to rid itself of their most dangerous competition (the Mullahs, and not Iran's people)
3)The ME should get a period of peace, as the Mullahs are the number one instigators of unrest in ME.
4) Iran's people get a chance to get their country back, as the majority of population hates the Mullahs.
5) Europe and the USA should get less immigrants from ME any way
6) Afterwards it will be time to take it to the DEMs here.

Iran's Mullah rulers fighters are already weakened, and the riots were a cover for surveillance (every strength and weakness were mapped out to a T).

The People of Iran are not behind these rulers, and any number of the Mullahs fighters are ready to cut out.

If PDJT had not made the deal with the Saudis, we would have been stuck in the starting gate, and he would have not been able to accomplish even half of what hhe has done.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 5:07 PM  

As last as Israel is fine. After all, Israel-first is American as apple pie nowadays.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) March 25, 2018 5:08 PM  

1) Trump and the USA got the major strings cut for the money of most of the Congressional and Deep State bribery. That money came from SA, and was immediately cut off.
2)SA gets to rid itself of their most dangerous competition (the Mullahs, and not Iran's people)
3)The ME should get a period of peace, as the Mullahs are the number one instigators of unrest in ME.
4) Iran's people get a chance to get their country back, as the majority of population hates the Mullahs.
5) Europe and the USA should get less immigrants from ME any way
6) Afterwards it will be time to take it to the DEMs here.


Hello Dick Cheney

Blogger Retrenched March 25, 2018 5:09 PM  

More likely what happened is that Trump gave up on the omnibus fight because he has a helluva lot on his plate right now and didn't have the time or energy for this battle. Besides there will be another budget due in September, and my guess is Trump is planning on standing firm for that one, since that's the one that voters will be thinking about going into the midterms.

Either that, or he has betrayed us as badly as Molyneux and Coulter have said. I highly doubt that is the case, but we will see.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 5:11 PM  

Actually I hope we do have a war with Iran. This way Russia and Iran can nuke Israel and NYC, and eliminate our (((elites))) in one fell swoop.

Blogger Lovekraft March 25, 2018 5:11 PM  

The main way to neutralize Muslim immigration justification is to counter their claim that it is fair play since the west meddles in the Middle East.

The alt-right should in no uncertain terms do anything to give weight to their shabby argument and should use every opportunity to argue repatriation.

Blogger Hammerli280 March 25, 2018 5:14 PM  

The thought of turning the military loose on the Obama regime brightens my whole day. I've thought since the 1994 election that the United States desperately needed to hold a Democrat Crimes Tribunal - the equivalent of the Nuremburg War Crimes Tribunal that sent Nazis to the noose.

As for the Israelis and Saudis obliterating the Iranian regime...suits me. Just as long as we get enough of a heads-up to get our naval assets out of the Persian Gulf. Those waters will be a nasty kill zone in a shooting war. Plus the Straits of Hormuz will certainly be mined.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 25, 2018 5:15 PM  

@24 That's a "BOOM". MbS ascended to power and Al Waleed was arrested and beaten by employees of Besty DeVos' brother. Al Waleed was a client of Podesta. Right now, the idea of corruption within British intelligence is being entertained.

Hard to be black pilled when, in the back of my mind, I entertain the idea that I could be living in one of the most fascinating times in the history of the Modern era.

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 5:16 PM  

33. Josh (the sexiest thing here)

I'm just stating the obvious from the facts, as this deal was set early on, and I might be less NeoCon then you. I'm stating the way the Trump administration is looking at this, sort of a devil Advocate for them. You need to stop looking at it from your view point and start looking at it from a SA/Trump Deal, nd why they think it needed to happen.

Blogger Prince95 March 25, 2018 5:20 PM  

Do you think Iran and Hezbollah are a global threat? Or is it more in Israel's interests to get rid of them and that's why America wants to target Iran?

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 5:25 PM  

Prince95 wrote:Do you think Iran and Hezbollah are a global threat? Or is it more in Israel's interests to get rid of them and that's why America wants to target Iran?

No, Iran's Mullahs were/are a threat to SA, and Trummp made a deal with SA in exchange for them cutting off Globalist Deep State bribe funding. PDJT keeps his word.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly March 25, 2018 5:25 PM  

@35 Piss off. You know who fights and dies in these wars? Midwestern, Southern, and Western men. Not the ((())) or coastals of any stripe. We are running low on all three of the former, so kindly take your cute comments elsewhere.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 25, 2018 5:26 PM  

@39 I'm thinking that article by Sundance. Between Sundance, the researchers on Twitter, and the Q posts, a picture appears to be coming into focus.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/29/imagine-you-are-not-a-politician-yet-you-are-running-for-the-presidency/

Blogger Crush Limbraw March 25, 2018 5:28 PM  

Fracking oil is good for gasoline refining - not for diesel. We're set up for a lot of diesel and we need it from outside sources. Canadian oil is lacking a pipeline - thank you Lefties!
The devil is always in the details.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 5:37 PM  

TRUMP TRAP CARD- when Derpstate blocks wall funds, fund wall with military

Time to get out of DC. That's a remarkable timetable for things to kick into high gear

The time to get out of DC was https://gab.ai/BGKB/posts/22447691

Hardly...The US still imports close to 10 million bpd,

Fracking provides high quality fuel, our refineries are calibrated to high sulfur low quality middle east oil.

Blogger Deo Volente March 25, 2018 5:48 PM  

Interesting take on what's going to happen with Iran.

https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/977675042753470465

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 5:50 PM  

Many ifs here:
If the Mullahs are as weak as many think in Iran (scooped out pretty well)
If the USA has only very minimal troops on the ground (complete ground ops by GCC)
If Iran's common people hate the Mullah as much as it seems (No need for occupation from more than a few GCC forces until order restored)
If the surveillance for weaknesses was good

Well, I'll wait and see, but this has been obvious all along.

So I suppose you people would have went for keeping the Globalist Money Bribery for the Deep State going, as that was the alternative.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 25, 2018 5:55 PM  

@5 The rumor was, a year ago, that the GE didn't want to arrest/jail Obama and Bill Clinton, despite their many obvious culpabilities, because of bad precedent.

He may have learned more, much more, since then. One of the many Q-style rumors is that there's a recorded Valerie Jarrett phone call discussing assassinating Trump, for example. He may have to, especially depending on what Obama does when the roundup starts hitting high value people. Like Jarrett, who lives in one of his houses.

Blogger Silly but True March 25, 2018 5:59 PM  

I see the truth of this with my own eyes: in 2018, we’re a very long way away from 2009’s Revolutionary Guard shooting Neda Afghan-Sultan in middle of square in broad daylight.

Blogger Chris Mallory March 25, 2018 6:04 PM  

The Saudis and the Gulf states cannot even take out Yemen. Iran would wipe the floor with them.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 6:04 PM  

Unless of course, the 'War with Iran' is just the 'Maskirovka', to cover the necessity of calling up units all over the country in preparation for 'The Storm'.

As for Iran, once 'The Storm' has passed, President Trump will be free to work with President Putin to bring the major Middle East players to the negotiating table.

--ZhukovG

Blogger Jeff March 25, 2018 6:05 PM  

LOL! Fanfic from 4chan :)

Blogger YIH March 25, 2018 6:07 PM  

pyrrhus wrote:@8 Our fracking revolution has made us energy independent.

Hardly...The US still imports close to 10 million bpd, net. Huge negative factor on our Balance of Payments.

Fracking has not been the miracle it's commonly made out to be. It's much more expensive to produce oil that way, and sustainability is questionable. There are also pollution issues to deal with, such as wastewater.

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 6:09 PM  

47. Ingot9455

Valerie Jarrett wanted to kill everyone that was not-Left/Globalist as soon after HRC got elected, a very vicious woman.

There has likely been more than a couple serious assassination attempts on Trump.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 25, 2018 6:10 PM  

@49 I completely dissent.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 25, 2018 6:14 PM  

@52 Fracking puts an upper bound on the price of oil. It costs $50 dollars a barrel to get oil from fracking. And the US/Canada oil concerns have experience with OPEC and Russia playing price games so they've designed all their fracking stuff to be as easy to mothball as possible if the price gets too low.

So when the price hits $70, the fracking spigot turns on and the price stops rising. OPEC and Russia can try to stop pumping to make it scarce, and then their profits go down. Eventually the frackers slack off some and OPEC and Russia start pumping and the price comes down under $70, and so on.

But with this additional source, we are unlikely to see those $100-150 prices again until the currency collapses.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 25, 2018 6:15 PM  

Well tonight we get "60 minutes of Trump sex."

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 6:15 PM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:@49 I completely dissent.

Al, I agree, and I've captured Chris's post to rub in his mistake for months.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 25, 2018 6:26 PM  

@57 The info I am getting appears to give no support to the idea that Saudi Arabia struggles with Yemen. Furthermore, the drama in Iran appears to imply internal problems with its governance. I remember seeing videos of IRGC dudes defecting to the "rioteers" (H/T Mr. Wictor).

Blogger Unknown March 25, 2018 6:31 PM  

The most important thing is securing Israel’s safety. If this sparks war with Iran or Russia, then so be it.

Genesis 12:3 in all cases.

Watch John Bolton explain this point on the Tucker Carlson show:

https://youtu.be/2jEm0FsGThc

Blogger YIH March 25, 2018 6:31 PM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:Well tonight we get "60 minutes of Trump sex."
AKA This week's pr0n slut seeking to boost her career by claiming she did the Donald. I can see the letterboard signs outside of strip clubs now: ''See Candy! As featured on 60 Minutes!''

Blogger FidelNaidoo March 25, 2018 6:32 PM  

A screenshot of when I found myself, by accident, in a far left YouTube hellhole. I highlighted the part of when I remembered Vox's training of "own what they accuse you of "

AAAH, I can't paste it.
I got called 'a filthy racist'. End of of the day, I thanked the writer for the compliment. No reaction since.

Blogger VD March 25, 2018 6:36 PM  

LOL! Fanfic from 4chan :)

Always nice to get the Gamma perspective.

Seriously, never, ever use "LOL" or any similar derivation. I don't care if you're actually laughing so hard your spleen comes out your nose. Not even then.

It should not be necessary to point this out to adults.

Blogger centexguy March 25, 2018 6:41 PM  

The United States had Iran on the ropes with sanctions until Obama let them off the hook and gave the cold shoulder to Saudi Arabia. Now Trump is going to reverse that, and Saudi Arabia is already making reforms to liberalize their country. They want to modernize somewhat and wipe out radical Islam.

With North Korea almost wrapped up, John Bolton has been brought in to purge the Obama leftovers and play bad cop to Trump's good cop in dealing with Iran. While everyone screams war is coming Trump will prove them all wrong again in bringing peace and stability to the Middle East.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 25, 2018 6:41 PM  

So long as we don't have divisions of ground troops occupying the place and engaging in nation-building.
If the Saudis and Israelis want to sacrifice 100,000 of their young men to invade Iran, that's their decision; our aiding them with air and naval support doesn't cost us much.

If that's the case, the main concern should be not antagonizing Russia and China to the point they intervene. Americans dying while fighting Russians in Iran for the sake of the Israeli's wouldn't be a popular move. The GE is too smart to start Iraq 2.0 though.

Blogger UtahConservative March 25, 2018 6:44 PM  

Maybe because Israel’s security is more important? Ever consider that Mr. Anti-Semite?

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 6:51 PM  

What I'm really looking forward to is the war against the NWO/Globalists or the second part of this equation, and most of the NeoCons are Globalists too, (with a few exceptions like Bolton, who does not like globalists).

Blogger Bill March 25, 2018 6:53 PM  

LOL! 4D Underwater chess!

Fears grow that Trump could ignore Congress on spending
Lawmakers and activists see warning signs that Trump officials could cut budgets by leaving federal money unspent.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/18/fears-grow-trump-will-ignore-congress-spending-241768

Blogger FidelNaidoo March 25, 2018 6:54 PM  

I am so proud of the tribe I belong to.
We have communications, independent of the power supply.
We have survival plans.
We do drills, and training.
We will survive, relying on ourselves, because no country in the world will help us.
We will emerge in years to come, from our mountain hide-aways, and rebuild the nation.
Yes, we are a race above most.

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 6:55 PM  

I'm hoping all the Conservatives from Utah are thoroughly looked at for dirt too, as 8Chan has discovered much slime there. They have been infiltrated and turned by traitors heavily.

Blogger VD March 25, 2018 6:58 PM  

LOL! 4D Underwater chess!

Always nice to hear from the Gammas.

Blogger Silly but True March 25, 2018 7:09 PM  

@VD,
As an aside, you absolutely should try to coerce Wicter into contributing a sci-fi “future war” flamethrower themed story in a future volume of Riding the Red Horse (or There Will Be War).

He is both a compelling storyteller and a flamethrower subject matter expert. Not sure his writing or sci-if chops, but the product may be worth the trouble of working him through that.

Blogger Markku March 25, 2018 7:11 PM  

It's not fanfic, the war with Iran is a done deal.

http://www.euronews.com/2018/03/24/saudi-general-in-charge-of-yemen-campaign-speaks-to-euronews

"Assiri was with the crown prince in the states last week where they got Trump's support for the offensive against Iran, for their operation in Yemen and the rest."

Blogger UtahConservative March 25, 2018 7:20 PM  

Many of us elected Trump precisely for a strong foreign policy in defense of Israel and the destruction of the tyrannical Iranian regime.

Blogger Lazarus March 25, 2018 7:22 PM  

51. Blogger Jeff March 25, 2018 6:05 PM
LOL! Fanfic from 4chan :)



Obviously not @Stealth Jeff

@Agent Jeff?

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 25, 2018 7:22 PM  

46. tuberman

"So I suppose you people would have went for keeping the Globalist Money Bribery for the Deep State going, as that was the alternative."

Unidimensional thinking is so tiresome. It's like the idea that something may have an external purpose is forbidden knowledge.

At least the all for Isreal crowd can envision that things are connected.

Blogger Markku March 25, 2018 7:30 PM  

I'm a little rusty on the Pro-Israel talking points myself, not having used them since Bush, but I think we're supposed to start with something like Israel being America's greatest ally, and the Shock and Awe, or whatever it's going to be called this time, is just a quick in-out thing. No biggie. It'll be over before you know it.

DAMN it's been long. I had a CRT display and an ATX tower case back then.

Blogger VD March 25, 2018 7:31 PM  

the product may be worth the trouble of working him through that.

Sure, because I have so little to do, and I'm so far ahead on my own books, that I'm going to turn a non-writer into a writer in my spare time.

That seems likely.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 7:31 PM  

This is the same Trump who allowed Obama's district court appointees to make the most obvious, abusive, and partisan rulings regarding his travel bans and daca and did nothing.

I'm not buying this military tribunal stuff until I see news anchors melting down over it.

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 7:37 PM  

75. Uncle John's Band

Do some research, If you'd been out on 4 Chan and 8chan the last 5 months, then you would have a clue. There may be a hundred reasons, but this was a done deal when Trump went to SA for those meetings, and money strings were cut right after from the Saudis to the Congress and the senate, and the rest of the Deep State in this country. This was critical. Any other "dimensions" were much less important than this deal.

Remember Trump and several Saudis standing around a glowing globe? It was decided then. The Saudi Prince was here last week with a big smile on his face when Trump referred to Iran.

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 7:47 PM  

Over 2/3 of the bribe money supporting the Left/Right/Globalists/Traitors was coming from SA, and that needed to be cut off before anything else could happen.

Blogger Bill March 25, 2018 7:48 PM  

VD wrote:LOL! 4D Underwater chess!

Always nice to hear from the Gammas.


[Eye Roll]
I was being serious, I think it's yet another example of Trump out-negotiating everyone. Sure, they can pass whatever budget they want, and in a few months there will be stories coming out about how much money Trump is NOT spending. How will stories about not spending money play right before the election? And if he carries through on his idea to build the wall from the military budget, it's wins all the way down.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 25, 2018 7:50 PM  

79. tuberman

I was supporting you. I could have been clearer.

You are presenting the multidimensional perspective. I was referring to the 'Trump is revealed as a neocon' idiocy as unidimensional. It is really tiresome.

The all for Isreal stuff acknowledges multiple dimensions but seems overdetermined.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 7:53 PM  

@65:

Maybe because Israel’s security is more important? Ever consider that Mr. Anti-Semite?

I cannot speak for VD, but:

I am Christian.
I am an American.
I am 7% Jewish by genetics.
I am far removed from any sort of Jewish culture (my grandfather, from whom I get my Jewish blood, was an orphan adopted into the family and raised like one of them).
I don't give a tinker's dam about Jews, Israel, evangelicucks, or dispensationalist heresy.
I have no desire to spill American blood over a sh*thole country like Ukraine, Syria, North Korea, or Israel.

If you are so concerned about Israel's security, emigrate to Israel and join the IDF.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 7:54 PM  

First time back for a bit.

This matches some rumors floating around. Not sure if they are just "more of the same" or not.

Not expecting military tribunals, but there is a reason these marches suddenly appeared. I do wonder what when wrong for the guy to be taken alive though.

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 7:55 PM  

U John band

Thanks John, i should have known, as you've always been sharp in the past.

Blogger Lazarus March 25, 2018 7:59 PM  

Not expecting military tribunals

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Am I right?

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 8:00 PM  

UtahConservative wrote:Many of us elected Trump precisely for a strong foreign policy in defense of Israel and the destruction of the tyrannical Iranian regime.

People here do not care about Israel, except as a place all the dual-citizen Jewish can go home to permanently.

The Israel question is promised to be answered last by Q.

Blogger Deo Volente March 25, 2018 8:00 PM  

Sifting through the chaff to find the wheat is both exhausting and rewarding. I've got my own beliefs about what is happening and what is coming and it is interesting watching pieces fall into place to make them happen.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados March 25, 2018 8:03 PM  

Trump has been economically maneuvering around China and Russia since he became POTUS. Deposing the mullahs indirectly impacts Russia. It's not likely that a direct war will arise with Russia over this. Trump has managed to position the US into a strong frame of moral superiority in dealing with the ME, China, and North Korea. He's very rapidly rebuilding--or creating--good will with various countries that the past three administrations eroded.

As for the message for Vox, the Inspector General's report should be hitting soon, probably in April which is when Trump said he'd have something big to announce. Since it's clear from the research that the Obummer administration was well-aware of and complicit in the illegal spying and undermining of Trump's campaign/administration it's highly likely that his cabinet, Obummer, and definitely Clinton and her assorted lackeys are all looking down the business end of a courtroom in the very near future.

Everything that's bee happening lately with the media and the DNC and the GOPe isn't coming from a place of strength. It's desperationg. They know they've been outed and are being funneled to their doom. But there's know way out for them. They were so arrogant to think they could keep getting away with their treachery that they became careless and left evidence of their wrong-doing everything. Jeff Aramaki has been dutifully and carefully carrying out his job as the AG and when the indictments hit, we're going to see just how blessed we are to have a guy like him in our corner.

Blogger Wolfman at Large March 25, 2018 8:04 PM  

So Trump's going to let Mexico off with a warning this time and make Iran pay for The Wall.

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 8:04 PM  

The Tribunals will happen.

Blogger tuberman March 25, 2018 8:08 PM  

89. TheLiberatorOfBados

Yes, there is 100's of millions behind the OIG Report now, with no funding for any opposition to anything against it.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 25, 2018 8:17 PM  

@ tuberman

No worries. You've been a step ahead of me in the chans all along.

Blogger FidelNaidoo March 25, 2018 8:24 PM  

And I got told told that our 'lice ridden caveman asses' will come out ....
It's nice to remind certain children that those same caveman asses developed nuclear weapons, and have been the only country in the world to have voluntarily given those up.
Why ?
They did the world a favour by not letting them into the hands of savages.

Blogger Patrikbc March 25, 2018 8:27 PM  

omfgroflmaowtfbbq!

Blogger Jeff March 25, 2018 8:29 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Obviously not @Stealth Jeff
@Agent Jeff?


I'm retired Jeff :)

I enjoy a good dystopian tale as much as anyone, but does anyone here seriously believe military tribunals will be arresting Obama's minions? That ain't my America and it ain't gonna happen nohow. Again, LOL.

Now with Bolton on board, and Trump betraying everything he campaigned on, I can see another useless middle-east war on the horizon. But not military tribunals arresting civilians. Not yet, anyway. Too late for the ballot box, too soon for the bullet box.

Blogger Howard Stone March 25, 2018 8:33 PM  

Trump 2020

Blogger FidelNaidoo March 25, 2018 8:37 PM  

Trump, what ? Siener van Rensburg spoke of you 100 years ago ( the man with hair like wig across the ocean )... who would create greatness. We thought it was you. Please let it be you ....

Blogger Timmy3 March 25, 2018 8:38 PM  

How many more dangerous Muslim refugees going to Europe and the US from this misguided proxy war with Iran? Just let them be. They deserve the leaders they get.

Blogger Anno Ruse March 25, 2018 8:47 PM  

> That ain't my America and it ain't gonna happen nohow. Again, LOL.

Like an iPhone cowboy...

Tribunals could happen. They'll probably happen. Trump led "LOCK HER UP!" chants at a hundred rallies. What other candidate has ever done something so audacious? It's not like the Deep State is going to let up on him if he doesn't go through with it. Might as well just do it.

Blogger Jeff March 25, 2018 9:10 PM  

Anno Ruse wrote:Like an iPhone cowboy...


Well, I have actually done farm work. Been about 50 years though. The cow part was shoveling shit and milking, not herding from horseback.

Now when those tribunals start taking up democrats, you better look to your own ass, cause they won't stop with that...partner.

Blogger Arthur Isaac March 25, 2018 9:14 PM  

Has the Euphrates dried up yet? Someone has to put the hooks in the king's jaws to bring them to the slaughter of nations.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 25, 2018 9:24 PM  

@96 I can definitely believe that the imprisonment and trials will be held at Gitmo. It's US territory, but a completely Federal and military enclave, no State jurisdiction of any kind. Also gets around the idea of juries drawn from Washington DC's 95% percent liberal voting bloc.

The exact form of the trials and their rationale? I'm not the sort of lawyer to know, but some of those Executive Orders - the ones about human trafficking - make it pretty clear that all the legal i's are dotted and the t's are crossed.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 25, 2018 9:26 PM  

@ 96. Jeff

"I enjoy a good dystopian tale as much as anyone..."

"Trump betraying everything he campaigned on..."

Apparently dystopian tales aren't the only fiction you enjoy.

Blogger Matthew March 25, 2018 9:30 PM  

OT:

Lovekraft, I'm also an old Legendary Pink Dots fan. Email me at automatthew at gmail dot com if you want to talk.

Blogger Billy March 25, 2018 9:32 PM  

What’s happening is neocon business as usual. The swamp cannot be drained

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 25, 2018 9:33 PM  

Is that prophesy positive for Trump? What does he say is going to happen with SA?

Blogger Lazarus March 25, 2018 9:34 PM  

@101

Now when those tribunals start taking up democrats, you better look to your own ass, cause they won't stop with that...partner.

I believe this will be a bi-factional cleansing, Agent Jeffrey.

McCain, Bushes, etc.

Blogger Lazarus March 25, 2018 9:38 PM  

@96

That ain't my America

We know.

Because your America is not America.

Blogger Phillip George March 25, 2018 9:46 PM  

Jeff. post a youtube link to yourself laughing out loud or shut the cuck up.
shills do not laugh out loud, they collect money or AI gratuity points

Blogger Looking Glass March 25, 2018 9:47 PM  

@96 Jeff

They clarified the Laws around tribunals over several EOs over the last year. *Someone* has been preparing them to be far more useful.

As to Iran, that "war" has been in progress for a while. There is an Israel-Saudi alliance against Iran, though do remember that Iran has been using their proxies in Yemen to lob missiles at Riyadh for over a year. The Iran-Saudi proxy war went Hot a while ago. There's nothing outside parties can do to stop the conflict.

So, into that, what's going to happen is slow-rolling regime change in Iran. It's not a CIA/Soros move, so it's going to have minimal violence (relatively speaking) compared to the way it mostly works. Iran is a Nation-State. Persians currently rule over several smaller Nations within their border. They're going to carve Iran up and the NeoCons are going to have massive blue balls, as they aren't involved.

The main play is something of an Asymmetric Optics strategy. They embed operators within the protests to prevent the security forces from opening fire, while at the same time having massive amounts of video being taken. This requires a separate Internet Backbone system already built (which it was, that's why we saw so much video out of the Kurdish regions in January), but the strategy prevents the Regime from marshaling direct forces against protesters. They'll attack them in the dark, but that only increases the resistance.

It wouldn't surprise me if chunks of Western Iran, which are Kurdish regions, is already lost from Iranian control. This is something of a new approach to flipping a country, and it has both good & bad effects for the future.

Blogger Looking Glass March 25, 2018 9:48 PM  

@108 Lazarus

McCain will die before he can be arrested.

Blogger Looking Glass March 25, 2018 9:54 PM  

@80 tuberman

The Swamp needs massive amounts of cash. Once we started looking at the Networks, it actually became pretty obvious how to attack most of them. No frontal assault would work, but they can die by thousand cuts because their is no loyalty.

Blogger Crew March 25, 2018 9:59 PM  

omfgrotflmaowtfbbq!

FIFY. The BBQ bit was awesome.

Blogger Ceerilan March 25, 2018 10:04 PM  

At this point, US involvement against Iran may do more harm than good unless Russia and/or China are dead set on backing Iran. If they did, it wouldn't be surprising.

Blogger Crew March 25, 2018 10:15 PM  

OT, but you can tell the Republicucks that you do not like them here:

https://act.nrcc.org/america-priorities-survey/

Tell them to build the wall and stop cucking!

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 10:15 PM  

The President signed the bill because the military needed to be funded. They're going to have some big jobs this year...The midterms are going to be utterly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. That means the roundup will happen before then and the DNC will be struggling with things other than running for office.

Well, that's as bleak a set of predictions as I've seen. I've placed all my hope on the recent finance bill being a stratagem by Trump to kick the can down the road six months to just before the mid-term elections, then bring down the hammer of a government shutdown. And then he can say, "This is a referendum. Do you want a wall? Do you want to end globalism? Do you want me to do the stuff I promised when I got elected? Then vote against the Democrats." It is the only way I can see that would salvage the Trump presidency--even launch Trump on the path to being one of the great Presidents.

In my opinion, the "chans" are a bunch of paranoid nonsense, mixed with the odd piece of truth. But the noise is so great that paying attention to this stuff is a net waste of time. I particularly like the "Q drops"--the word for that stuff is "Delphic". It's poetry, of a sort--and it's bound to come true...in one way or another.

Blogger Jeff March 25, 2018 10:17 PM  

If they didn't arrest McCain for his traitorous activities in Hanoi, they won't arrest him for his activities since then. Besides as Looking Glass said, he'll die first.

Laz, my America was one where I could buy all the guns I wanted, but didn't feel the need to go armed when I left my house.

I agree that my America isn't America now, more's the pity. I do think that if military tribunals start arresting civilians, the time for bullet boxes has arrived. I don't think we're there yet.

Blogger dienw March 25, 2018 10:20 PM  

UtahConservative wrote:Many of us elected Trump precisely for a strong foreign policy in defense of Israel and the destruction of the tyrannical Iranian regime.

Then become honorary Jews and make aliyah.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 25, 2018 10:22 PM  

Are the Legendary Pink Dots actually music, or just a collection of sounds like Did Antwoord?

Blogger Patrikbc March 25, 2018 10:32 PM  

Good looking out Crew

Blogger Lazarus March 25, 2018 10:32 PM  

@118
I agree that my America isn't America now, more's the pity. I do think that if military tribunals start arresting civilians, the time for bullet boxes has arrived. I don't think we're there yet.

Given the systemic corruption you have allowed to happen, the only possible save IS military tribunals. After the Republic is restored, then power can be relinquished to civilian authorities.

Its surgery, Jeff.

Look up (on DDG, so you are not tracked) "Six phases of the “Continuum of Military Operations.”

see phase 5

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 10:45 PM  

I really don't get why so many people hope that Trump is going to launch a military coup against the left. I think the idea is nuts for several reasons.

First, I don't see Trump having the personality to do a hitler. This is what Trump's enemies think of him: that he's a crazy Nazi Hitler wannabe dictator. Trump is an intelligent man who has seen through the deceptions of the global left, and has called them out on those lies. I see him trying to work for some drastic changes--but by lawful means. I see nothing in him that points to a willingness to use illegal violence on a massive scale against the U.S. government itself.

Second, using the U.S. military to stage a coup simply would not work. It is extremely unlikely that a Presidential order to arrest most of the U.S. Congress and Senate would be obeyed by the top brass. No doubt you could find some ambitious brigadiers or colonels who would obey such an order, but they would be opposed by other officers who take their oath to the Constitution seriously. The result would be chaos, paralysis, and possible fratricide within the U.S. military. This might trigger the long-feared [awaited?] Second U.S. Civil War...but it would not be pretty, and I doubt if any part of the Federal government would survive, including the President.

O.K., I have to admit that in this case, the hypothetical scenario would not be a total loss. I still think it's a nutty idea, and I think it's a bad idea because our country's descent into chaos is not something we should wish for or hasten. In any case it's not going to happen this way. If the shooting starts, it won't be because Trump orders it.

Blogger Avalanche March 25, 2018 10:47 PM  

@78 "This is the same Trump who allowed Obama's district court appointees to make the most obvious, abusive, and partisan rulings regarding his travel bans and daca and did nothing."


This is the same Trump who TESTED Obama's district court appointees...

FIFY

Blogger Ingot9455 March 25, 2018 10:56 PM  

@118 We can expect the Left to trigger what riots they can manage when 'top people' (really popular middle people) get arrested. It will indeed be bullet box time.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 10:56 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Given the systemic corruption you have allowed to happen, the only possible save IS military tribunals. After the Republic is restored, then power can be relinquished to civilian authorities.

Huh. What makes you think the military is not part of the corruption? The military is hugely corrupt, starting from its careerist officers going all the way up to the role of senior generals and ex-generals who wallow in the orgy bed known as the "military procurement process". All government institutions are corrupt. The idea that the military will save us is truly laughable.

Blogger Looking Glass March 25, 2018 11:07 PM  

@123 Sidehill Dodger

It's not a coup unless Trump changes the regime type. (He's already in power, as it is.) The Tribunals will be for high-level players guilty of treason. But that still comes later.

First is the IG report and a lot of DOJ & FBI members getting arrested. Everyone hyping up some "arrest half of Congress" isn't paying attention. That's not how you unwind networks. You turn all of Congress and arrest the most corrupt. You use the processes available already to do the work.

Everyone wants to take out the big names, but they aren't the real power brokers. Take out the protection from the roots. Then hack at the roots in ways they can't defend against, then keeping digging. People will turn. People will flip. Then, one day, most of it comes out and the entire situation turns.

It doesn't produce an emotional high, but when has Trump been about that? He wants results. He's slowly getting them. Right along with the IG now having the power over the budget of the people they're investigating.

Blogger Johnny March 25, 2018 11:17 PM  

What the Gulf Cooperation Council has is money but no large population of people who want to fight for them. Perhaps a war that amounted to mostly destroying Iranian property with air power would work. Hit the nuclear stuff and some of the oil production property, bridges, that sort of thing. Set them back financially. Whatever happens it would be better for us to not be directly engaged. That would make it tougher for the other side to argue it is an anti Islam crusader sort of thing.

Blogger Jeff March 25, 2018 11:18 PM  

Sidehill Dodger wrote:
Huh. What makes you think the military is not part of the corruption? The military is hugely corrupt, starting from its careerist officers going all the way up to the role of senior generals and ex-generals who wallow in the orgy bed known as the "military procurement process". All government institutions are corrupt.
The idea that the military will save us is truly laughable.


In my day, we called them "Perfumed Princes of the Pentagon", and I can't imagine things have gotten better since the late 60s, early seventies. These guys aren't going to be the saviours of the Republic.

Blogger Anno Ruse March 25, 2018 11:29 PM  

> I see nothing in him that points to a willingness to use illegal violence on a massive scale against the U.S. government itself.

If it's illegal to arrest people running pedophilia rings, I'm okay with ignoring those laws.

Blogger Matthew March 25, 2018 11:33 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Are the Legendary Pink Dots actually music, or just a collection of sounds like Did Antwoord?

They're so much worse than Die Antwoord.

Anonymous Anonymous March 25, 2018 11:40 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:It's not a coup unless Trump changes the regime type. (He's already in power, as it is.) The Tribunals will be for high-level players guilty of treason. But that still comes later.

First is the IG report and a lot of DOJ & FBI members getting arrested.


Looking Glass, do you live in the U.S.? I ask because your first comment seems to show a lack of familiarity with the U.S. forms of government. Yes, Donald Trump is President of the United States. But the President's powers are carefully circumscribed by the Constitution; if he crosses those limits by using the military to make sweeping arrests and set up "tribunals", then this is indeed a coup (or "regime change" if you want to use that moldy cliche'.) It was such an illegal use of force that I was addressing.

If Trump uses legal force against criminals in high office or their associates, if he acts through legal channels--indictments, arrest by the FBI, and trials based on legitimate investigative results--then that is another matter entirely. Such acts would be within the Constitutional scope of President Trump's powers. I very much hope this happens.

Blogger Phillip George March 25, 2018 11:59 PM  

@118. Jeff



one minute google:
Cross flag, use of civilian clothing on the battlefield, poisoning wells,
and pillage. The foregoing may be committed by members of the
enemy's armed forces. 61 Others peculiar to civilians are: committing
hostilities without having acquired the belligerent character,162
war treason,'1 3 war rebellion,' 6' highway robbery and war piracy,165
acting as armed prowlers or marauders, 66 and miscellaneous
offenses against regulations promulgated by the occupaiit.167


sub quote
committing
hostilities without having acquired the belligerent character

Blogger Frank Brady March 26, 2018 1:41 AM  

UtahConservative wrote:
Many of us elected Trump precisely for a strong foreign policy in defense of Israel and the destruction of the tyrannical Iranian regime.
=====================================================================
Maybe you did, but many of us didn't. Fuck Israel and let it fight its own Goddamned wars this time.

Blogger Pioneer Spirit March 26, 2018 1:59 AM  

The swamp circled the wagons, met in smoke filled backrooms gave a wink and a nod and stopped Trump in his tracks.
There will be no tribunals. All the King's men have dug in their heels and will not cooperate with moving the Trump agenda along.
Coolidge said the business of America is business. Business as usual will not be denied.
Trump moves and the swamp counter moves. Trump lost a lot if support on this last event. That is the purpose of the Media attacks and the footdragging of the Republicans...to fatigue the Trump supporters. So you will stay home during the mid-terms.

Blogger APL March 26, 2018 3:09 AM  

Bill: "And if he carries through on his idea to build the wall from the military budget,"

Can't he just billet a couple of battalions down on the border, instigate patrols and get the corp of engineers on the job. It's not as if they've got a war to plan for .....

Blogger Hank Brown March 26, 2018 3:10 AM  

There's a popular assumption that the military is full of patriots who are ready to put their lives on the line for God, Mom, apple pie and the American dream. It's an opinion I once also held (as a naive teenager) before disillusioning experience taught me otherwise.

The officers were even more mercenary than the enlisted, and it's been getting steadily worse. I can't imagine Obama's purges of field-grade officers has improved the situation.

Not saying this "military tribunal" scenario is impossible, or can't be controlled by the white hats...because there could be a lot of developments I'm not privy to. But I am rather skeptical.

As VD says: time will tell. Skeptical or not, I would love to find out (preferably before the mid-terms) that Trump is, indeed, playing 4D underwater chess; that Sessions is the Stealth Inquisitor; that the deep state is getting sacked, etc.

Blogger Phillip George March 26, 2018 3:11 AM  

and @135, if the Wall starts getting built in serious proportion Trump's stock rise through the roof.

Blogger APL March 26, 2018 3:15 AM  

vfmshadow0342: "Maybe because Israel’s security is more important? Ever consider that Mr. Anti-Semite?"

Mr Counter Semite, if you please.

Blogger Sherwood family March 26, 2018 3:56 AM  

Why should Israel's security matter to an American? It's no more important to me at this point than Moldova's security or Burundi's security or Nepal's security. It is one small country with neighbors that don't like it. Which makes it just like every other small country with neighbors that don't like it.

We've paid plenty for Israel to be secure. No more. The entirety of Israel, its wealth, and its people are of less worth to me than any square inch of earth in the Ozarks when I was raised.

Those who love Israel above their own kith and kin and above their own native land should make aliyah and go there for it is obviously where their hearts are. I do not begrudge them that love but they are not my fellow countrymen.

Anonymous Anonymous March 26, 2018 5:39 AM  

Frank Brady wrote:UtahConservative wrote:

Many of us elected Trump precisely for a strong foreign policy in defense of Israel and the destruction of the tyrannical Iranian regime.

Maybe you did, but many of us didn't. Fuck Israel and let it fight its own Goddamned wars this time.


Amen, brother, amen!

Blogger VD March 26, 2018 7:31 AM  

Many of us elected Trump precisely for a strong foreign policy in defense of Israel and the destruction of the tyrannical Iranian regime.

Bullshit. You voted for Egg McMuffin and we all know it.

Blogger Thad tuiol March 26, 2018 7:34 AM  

So Russia just sits back and does nothing as it's main ally in the ME is dismantled? You people are effing nuts if you think "war with Iran" doesn't start WW3.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 26, 2018 7:37 AM  

The military is just as you described, filled with careerists who are far from the ideal we are supposed to revere. Saw it firsthand.

However this could be like the FBI. The decent people may be jockeying my for control against the Bush/Obama generals.

Blogger Thucydides March 26, 2018 7:57 AM  

@111
Exactly so. I would also suspect money and support is being prepared for the Baloch people who occupy the southwestern portions of Iran. Much like the Kurds, these people have been dispossessed for centuries and ready for a homeland of their own.

An Iran wracked by internal turmoil will either start recalling its forces from Syria and Lebanon to deal with problems at home, or try to double down while they still can. Either outcome is bad, they either give up their dreams of Middle Eastern Hegemony or don't have enough forces at home to keep a lid on things.

If Russia wants to support Iran, they get drawn into another "Frozen conflict", but one which has no benefit for them and sucks even more resources out of the depleted Russian treasury.

If these rumours about US action against Iran are true, then we have a scenario for indirect support which applies ever increasing pressure to Iran until they crack. but avoids open conflict as much as possible.

Blogger tuberman March 26, 2018 8:18 AM  

137. Hank Brown

How many Marines or JSOC volunteered for White House duty during the 8 years of BHO's faux presidency?

Rhetorical question: The answer is zero.

Obviously, there are tons of destructive empty suits even in the Pentagon (probably 70%+), so what there is still a backbone of patriotic soldiers in large groups of the military, otherwise there would have been no resistance to the NWO. PDJT was "enlisted" by MI even before the politics.

Blogger tuberman March 26, 2018 8:30 AM  

There was a full map of the wall, including the strength necessary in various regions to keep people out, made by Military Engineers back in November last year.

This was called "Building the Wall inn the Dark," a plan drawn up in June or July 2017. It does not mean literally building the wall in darkness, it meant getting clearance for the money through military spending, accomplished with the Ominbus.

Blogger Anchorman March 26, 2018 8:38 AM  

Unsure if it's been mentioned here already, but Saudis opened their airspace to Israelis.

All but certain a move to allow them to bomb Iran eventually.

Blogger Daniel March 26, 2018 8:41 AM  

Once again attacking the most european like whiter ish faction. Fuck this

Blogger Sherwood family March 26, 2018 8:48 AM  

A war against Iran is pointless, dangerous, and helps the U.S. not a bit. It might help the Israelis but they are not our problem.

Blogger Shimshon March 26, 2018 8:58 AM  

Anchorman, my understanding is the Saudis allowed Air India to overfly SA for their Tel Aviv - India routes. Not a blanket opening, and no affect on El Al, yet. But it is still a major development in Mideast politics.

Blogger Arthur Isaac March 26, 2018 9:30 AM  

Maybe Tillerson was a false front to the Russians.

Blogger Looking Glass March 26, 2018 9:49 AM  

@151 Shimshon

Last year, Trump flew direct from Riyadh to Tel Aviv. That was the first official flight allowed between those points. No one should ever expect explicit, public relations between the Saudis & Israelis, but they have come to some agreement that fighting each other isn't of any value.

@150 Sherwood family

USA isn't going to war with Iran. It's been at a soft war with Iran for decades. All that's really going on is support services for others in a removal of the current Iranian regime. Iranian-backed forces in Yemen are shooting missiles at Riyadh right now. The Saudis & friends have a lot of reasons to remove the current Iranian Regime.

Blogger Crew March 26, 2018 10:22 AM  

Well, there's this:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/03/president_trump_hints_he_may_use_defense_budget_to_build_the_border_wall_now.html

Can the Democrats go to court to get an injunction against something the President might do?

Blogger Looking Glass March 26, 2018 10:46 AM  

@154 Crew

They could, but the CnC has almost exclusive domain over the border when there's already declared Emergencies. Congress also just gave the DoD a lot of money.

Blogger Peter Gent March 26, 2018 11:05 AM  

Does anyone other than me think that when the Saudis cut the funding to the Deep State that they also turned over to the GE what records they could get as to who got what for what, when? Seems logical.

Blogger RobertT March 26, 2018 11:42 AM  

127. Looking Glass

Impressive.

Blogger RobertT March 26, 2018 11:52 AM  

My heart is with the 4 channers, but my skepticism is with Hank Brown. I hope the Q stuff is real but I worry it's drip cocaine to keep us in fantasyland.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 26, 2018 12:27 PM  

The courts are open and able to operate. Military tribunas will not happen.
Of course, there is the SCOTUS made their decision let them enforce it.
If you think that military tribunals are a possibility, could you describe how you think it will happen or develop?

Blogger Joeplanet March 26, 2018 12:33 PM  

Please spare me about how those in uniform won't go along with the plan once it gets going. The legal stuff is being triple checked by Jeff Sessions, additional prosecutors, and those in the FBI wearing white hats.

If rank and file military find themselves in open mutiny despite the fact that the Sec Def, the Joint Chief of Staff, the Commandant of the Marine Corps, heads of Military Intelligence (and on and on) are on board due to loads of damning evidence then they too can join their political heroes in the detention facility to await their own Court Martial.

I personally don't think the military rank and file will be a problem at all. And the few that are will be flushed out as the traitors they are.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 26, 2018 12:40 PM  

Joeplanet wrote:Please spare me about how those in uniform won't go along with the plan once it gets going

You can be confident that the uniformed services will do whatever preserves their pension. Pension uber alles!

Blogger Joeplanet March 26, 2018 12:41 PM  

That and the fact that Trump is wildly popular with those in uniform.

Blogger Vlad Z. March 26, 2018 12:43 PM  

If GE arrests *anyone* of *any importance* between now and election day I will be shocked.

Simply put I am a total skeptic on the entire Qanon / Sundance / Twitter theory of mass arrests, Hillary tapes, Gitmo military tribunals, and all the rest.

If it happens, I will admit I was wrong and the Qanon obsessed were correct.

If it *doesn't happen* at what point will the Q-obsessives admit they were played (and played like a borrowed guitar in the hands of a drunken George Thurogood) by 4 chan pranksters.

I'm guessing: never. They will just sort of slink away and pretend that their 50,000 of YouTube videos with each other never happened.

Blogger Looking Glass March 26, 2018 12:43 PM  

Given that much of the "RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!" narrative was built by MI6 associates, and so much seems to involve UK-based power structures, it makes the most sense to use Tribunals on foreigners waging War against the USA. Half of the UK Elites could be grabbed under those auspices. (It's also the way they've generally dealt with foreign Agents during war time.)

I still expect those will be far down the line, though.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 26, 2018 12:51 PM  

@164
Foreigners taking part of undermining the USA gov, are not traitors but saboteurs. Military firing squads with them.
Do that and we will see a rush of lawyers offering deals for their "citizen" clients.

Blogger Joeplanet March 26, 2018 12:54 PM  

@163 Vlad, forget about Q then.

Explain the executive orders (starting in Dec) and the changes to the UCMJ Manual on Courts Martial?
There are so many clues outside of the chans that you can research yourself.

Blogger The Abe March 26, 2018 1:03 PM  

@129
"Perfumed Princes of the Pentagon"
OT:
Reading that turn of phrase reminded me of the late Col. David Hackworth.

It always boggled me I was seeing a septuagenarian on TV, when to look at him you could easily guess 20-25 years younger.

While the manner of his death was mundane on the surface. The timing always made the spidey sense tingle.

He was a telegenic outsider that could have ran on either major party or an independent ticket and commanded a wide swathe of the baby-doomer vote, along with the peacenik vote courted by Barry.

Silly sounding to say aloud, but then again these are strange times.

Blogger Vlad Z. March 26, 2018 1:20 PM  

I was checking the status of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. With all this talk of military tribunals, it seems appropriate to ask how they are doing with the very very bad guys they already have.

Not so well, it turns out.

For those of you who may not remember (because some of you may have been in preschool at the time) KSM is the mastermind of the World Trade Center atrocity, as well as the star of the video tape where he cut off Danny Pearl's head. (Pearl was an American journalist.)

KSM was arrested on March 1, 2003.

Today's new 18 years old American voter was in pre-school when he was arrested!

The last updated on KSM is: "As of 2017, the case is progressing through the legal system.", per Wikipedia.

Given that we have 31 signed confessions from him, mountains of corroborating evidence, and video taps of him murdering someone -- and he still hasn't been tried, my thinking is that military commissions are pretty useless for convicting and punishing anyone.

Blogger Vlad Z. March 26, 2018 1:29 PM  

This is actually a pretty interesting article, despite the source.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/911-terrorists-guantanamo-military-commissions_us_57d308bce4b06a74c9f49858

Another down side of military tribunals is that those being held at Gitmo as 'enemy combatants' are under the unilateral control of the President. Obama managed to free quite a few of them, using various strategies, including trading for the traitor Bergdahl.

If you convict someone in Federal Court they can be pardoned by the President, but not just whisked away to a foreign country without any formal pardon.

Blogger Vlad Z. March 26, 2018 1:33 PM  

It's a habit of Qanon supporters to mimic him, stylistically. That is lots of leading questions, lots of reference to obscure and probably unimportant factoids, as some how proving the wild conjectures they are making.

As someone else said above: I'll believe it when I some high ranking people being arrested, and the libtard news anchors freaking out about it.

Every President updates and issues executive orders on all sorts of things. It's not compelling proof of the wild assertions made by Q and his supporters.

Blogger Vlad Z. March 26, 2018 1:40 PM  

According to everything I see the changes in the Code of Military Justice are due to a law passed in 2016 and singed into law by President Obama. They are slated to go into effect sometime before the end of this year.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/military-justice-act-2016-here-come-changes

I don't see how the fact that updates to this code are finally coming into effect, years after the Congreess first set about updating them, and 18 months afer Obama signed them indicates anything about comming mass arrests of Swamp Creatures.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 26, 2018 2:58 PM  

Vlad Z. wrote:Given that we have 31 signed confessions from him, mountains of corroborating evidence, and video taps of him murdering someone -- and he still hasn't been tried, my thinking is that military commissions are pretty useless for convicting and punishing anyone.
expand your thinking. the reason he's still using up air is that he still serves the purposes of someone in MilIntel. You don't waste high-value assets.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 26, 2018 3:30 PM  

Unknown wrote:The most important thing is securing Israel’s safety. If this sparks war with Iran or Russia, then so be it.

Genesis 12:3 in all cases.

There's so many issues here that it's astounding:
(1) You're ignoring Revelation 3:9.
(2) You assume that God isn't going to use other countries to punish Israel like he did multiple times in the Old Testament; which, if that is what this is, let's NOT get in God's way.
(3) You assume that the US stepping in is the best thing; there are people that have to touch the hot stove before they learn to not touch.
(4) You ignore 1 Timothy 5:8; which applied to governance would mean taking care of our own first.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 26, 2018 6:44 PM  

@173
These hyper-sensationalist always ignore (deliberately?) that Israel's possession of the land is conditional. The Old Testament/Covenant, since Moses came down the mountain with THE Tablets, if Israel does not follow The Law Israel loses control or is expelled from the land.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 26, 2018 7:46 PM  

hyper-dispensationalists

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