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Friday, March 09, 2018

What happened... and who was responsible?

Fred Reed laments the destruction of the national culture of the United States.
Countries are happiest when they have one national culture, or at least one dominant culture to which all must perforce conform. We see this in countries like Japan and Korea, homogeneous societies which, because homogeneous, have no race riots or religious wars. It was largely true in, for example, Sweden and France until they began admitting immigrants from incompatible cultures. Today, most of the news from such countries deals with the consequences.

Diversity, never a good idea. is in fact the cause of most of the world’s conflicts: Shia and Sunni, Jew and Arab, Hutu and Tutsi, Tamil and Sinhalese, Hindu and Muslim and, in America, black, white, and brown. Diversityis the cause of the dissolution of American society.

Until roughly the Sixties, America was homogeneous enough, overwhelmingly white, European, Anglophone, and Christian. This provided sufficient commonalty that people all regarded themselves as Americans. At the same time, there were many geographically separated subcultures which had little in common and didn’t like each other, or wouldn’t have if they had come into contact. Massachusetts, Montana, Alabama, West Virginia, and New York were different civilizations....

Then everything changed. Diversity began, not at first of people so much as of ideas. Reasons were several. Communications improved. Interstates appeared. The federal government gained in power and reach. The Supreme Court began making sweeping decisions on manners, morals and faith–that is, on culture and values–which it had not done before. Now Washington–New York, really–could enforce these decisions.

The result was unwanted cultural diversity. The Court decided in decision after decision that increasingly explicit pornography enjoyed protection as free speech, imposing an alien ideology on small towns in Kansas. This culminated in internet porn accessible to children of ten, uncontrolled and uncontrollable. Obscene music poured out of New York as local stations were bought by Manhattan, from which rap came–unfit, in most regions, for a toilet wall. Towns could not defend themselves because of the doctrine of free speech and the massively increased power of the northeast. Television became national with similar trampling of local values of faith, propriety, and race.

Particularly invasive was the newly invented doctrine of separation of church and state. For at least a hundred and fifty years no one, neither court nor individual, had noticed that the Constitution forbade manger scenes on the town square at Christmas, or the singing of carols on public streets, or mention of the Bible in schools. It was yet more compelled cultural diversity.
One hardly needs William of Ockham to discern the central problem. The United States of America worked when it was American and Christian. It no longer works because it is now saddled with a government that is not-American and not-Christian as well as a substantial minority population that is not-American and not-Christian. These days, the US government is essentially an Athenian-style empire, albeit one with an emperor who is heavily influenced by a foreign grand vizier who is hostile to Christianity and far more concerned with those foreign interests than with American interests.

And the fact that both the emperor and the grand vizier are collectives rather than individuals does not change either the relevance of the observations or the probable outcome. Lament this reality if you will. Hurl accusations and labels if you want. None of that is going to alter, in the slightest, the way the inevitable patterns of history are going to play out.

Only the most foolish of fools can be stupid enough to claim temporal exceptionalism will somehow inure themselves to the great waves of history. If you don't understand what I'm talking about, read Tolstoy, specifically, War and Peace. There are very sound reasons that we see the same events play out again and again and again across the centuries.

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Blogger Peaceful Poster March 09, 2018 8:09 AM  

VD, what is your opinion regarding the separation of Church and State?

Christian rule sounds good in theory but Churchian rule not so much.

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 8:22 AM  

> Only the most foolish of fools can be stupid enough to claim temporal exceptionalism will somehow inure themselves to the great waves of history.

People always seem to confuse analysis of what is going to happen with a desire to see it happen, don't they?

War is coming, whether we like it or not. A peaceful separation would be far preferable, but is highly unlikely. But homogeneity will be restored, one way or another. It's what people do and people haven't changed, no matter how much the cultural Marxists like to claim they have.

Blogger Miguel March 09, 2018 8:22 AM  

"If we were alive back then, we would never make their mistakes" - says the modern westerner....as he rejects his faith, shuns good women, and drinks into oblivion.

We are not special. We are exacly like all other humans who ever lived.

But...


... we can make a diference....in Christ.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 09, 2018 8:26 AM  

Forgive me for stepping in, if you will.

Separation of Church and state was never intended to mean that the state could not be controlled by the Church.

Rather, it was intended that the Protestants couldn't use the state to go after the Catholics, or vice versa, or with other denominations assuming either position. Other cults, pagans, heathens and Atheists mostly weren't even considered, which indicates an element of vainglory-error even at that time.

Effectively, it was intended that power could not be leveraged to control Christian churches via the state.

Unsurprisingly, it's been terribly abused to completely lever the Church out of any sort of influence whatsoever in the state, while of course other non-Christian religions, such as Atheism, Pharisaism, and Islam have no such restrictions, because they don't have "churches".

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 09, 2018 8:30 AM  

I assume we are talking about the "Culture of Critique" the problem is that the right wing has no frame and is strictly reactionary and has been wore down after awhile. Think of the assault on the West as a shit test that never ends, and Ol' Conservative Papa who was married at a young age is utterly incapable of answering, he is a simple hard working put upon man who places women upon a high pedastal and is at their mercy.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 09, 2018 8:31 AM  

You can start by questioning the authority of the Left

Blogger Desdichado March 09, 2018 8:32 AM  

Peaceful Poster wrote:VD, what is your opinion regarding the separation of Church and State?

Christian rule sounds good in theory but Churchian rule not so much.

It's a great example of the Jews (mostly) on the courts interpreting the Constitution to mean exactly the opposite of what it says. What the doctrine SAYS is that the federal government should be unable to dictate religion to citizens. In reality, the federal government has dictated anti-Christian, secular humanism and globalist diversity crap AS religion.

Blogger Truth teller March 09, 2018 8:32 AM  

And all libertarians can do is get their panties in a bunch over "free" trade totally ignoring the role culture plays in economics.

https://mises.org/wire/political-economy-protectionism

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 09, 2018 8:36 AM  

"And all libertarians can do"

Is fail to grow, even in benign conditions they are constitutionally incapable of producing themselves.

Blogger peter blandings March 09, 2018 8:47 AM  

yeah. so what do we do?

Blogger Avalanche March 09, 2018 9:02 AM  

"Countries are happiest when they have one national culture, or at least one dominant culture to which all must perforce conform."

Wait wait! This is the: "Mexicans are GREAT, you-all should LOVE (and welcome to your towns!) all the Mexicans who want to come, Mexicans BELONG in the U.S." guy?! Did he just get mugged in Jalisco?!

Oh no, of COURSE not -- he's still pro-Mexican, now it's the NE (once White Christian) lands, which are guilty of destroying the country; NOT the 100+million Mexican (legals and) illegals turning downtown Van Nuys (and thousands of other small towns into unsafe, unclean, violent el Mexico-Norte!

Blogger Bobo #117 March 09, 2018 9:04 AM  

"Separation of Church and State" should always be written from right to left. In Hebrew.

Blogger Avalanche March 09, 2018 9:06 AM  

@7 "the Jews (mostly) on the courts interpreting the Constitution to mean exactly the opposite of what it says."

So, deceit, not corception?

OpenID zhukovg March 09, 2018 9:08 AM  

As a Roman Catholic, I am forced to admit that it was a devastating mistake to allow large numbers of Roman Catholic Nationals into the country in the 19th century. IMO these national groups, largely Italian and Irish, became the political clout behind treasonous concepts such as, 'Nation of Immigrants' and 'Melting Pot'.

Yes, I know, Roman Catholic nationalities didn't invent these ideas, but they voted and continue to vote for them.

Blogger Fred March 09, 2018 9:10 AM  

Spot on Vox, as usual. One only needs to look to the 1950s when everyone brought guns to school and no one was ever hurt. The downhill slide began with R v Wade and removing prayer/Bible from school. Detractors can say what they want but cant argue with the calendar, and correlation of non events to escalating violence with R v W and removing Bible from schools.

Blogger Pale Male March 09, 2018 9:17 AM  

Only the most foolish of fools can be stupid enough to claim temporal exceptionalism will somehow inure themselves to the great waves of history.

Hmmm.  inure: 
verb (used with object), inured, inuring.
1. to accustom to hardship, difficulty, pain, etc.; toughen or harden; habituate (usually followed by to): inured to cold.

Not what you appear to have meant.  I would have expected "except themselves from" instead.

Blogger Crush Limbraw March 09, 2018 9:17 AM  

"What happened... and who was responsible?"
We were told to 'make disciples of all nations...." Matt. 28:18-30.
That does not mean running around the freaking world doing mission trips.
You start with your own family and build outward into your community. You don't send your kids to pubic screwels to be discipled for Old Scratch.
So who is responsible? So who stopped making disciples? Anyone as old as I am should look in the mirror!

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 9:28 AM  

> We were told to 'make disciples of all nations...." Matt. 28:18-30.

It's a common usage. The dictionary simply hasn't kept up.

> We were told to 'make disciples of all nations...." Matt. 28:18-30.

His disciples were told to. Not every Christian has the skills to or is called to spread the faith. Though we are all expect to act as an example to others.

Blogger Ken Prescott March 09, 2018 9:29 AM  

"There are very sound reasons that we see the same events play out again and again and again across the centuries."

Because a very few select people have "All Along the Watchtower" stuck in their heads? ;>)

Blogger Ken Prescott March 09, 2018 9:30 AM  

"His disciples were told to. Not every Christian has the skills to or is called to spread the faith. Though we are all expect to act as an example to others."

"Preach the Gospel. Use words if necessary." -- St. Francis of Assisi

OpenID zhukovg March 09, 2018 9:31 AM  

@Avalanche: In fairness to Fred Reed, he has opined that we let too many Mexicans in too quickly. He also pointed out that it wasn't Mexican lawyers and airline pilots that were sneaking into the US, but folks who were losers in Mexico.

He does mistakenly IMO, hold to the idea that now that they're here we won't be able to remove them. But he, I think, underestimates the savagery of pissed off Northern Europeans.

From my time living in the American Southwest, I observed that there is a huge difference between the Mexican newcomers and Mexican families that have been here, possibly going back to the Mexican-American War. Of course those 'old' Mexican families are, if anything, even more pissed off about the illegal invasion than the Whites.

Blogger tz March 09, 2018 9:39 AM  

If you don't have separation of church and state, then there is no distinction between a sin and a crime. Even if you are in a liberal church and think racism and sexism are sins, if you separate them, they don't become crimes (like sodomy on the other side). More crimes means less liberty and bigger government. Right now having 0.08% BAC and driving is illegal and it doesn't matter if you are drunk or not.

On the main topic, America could continue to perfect its single identity - until it became proud, so perhaps this diversity is God's ironic judgment. America went from greatness to greatness because we saw what was good and true and incorporated it into our single identity - that remained Christian.

What diversity creates is the idea that the remaining American Christians are no better than the African refugees that bring their witch doctors with them. That Cathederals and Bach were no better than Mud huts and rap.

This is also where the Civic Natonalists got the idea - America has changed its identity at the margin, most times for the better, but it was a single identity. When we separated from Mother England we could choose the details that were part of our identity (or not - we have liberty). Not unlike in Acts the Church had to decide which Jewish laws to impose on Greek Christians, and the list was very short.

When America was mostly white and Christians, ads and the culture reflected it (something like the rhetorically true statments, they weren't directed at the outliers). Now political correctness means you see lots of 2% images.

Blogger S1AL March 09, 2018 9:42 AM  

"His disciples were told to. Not every Christian has the skills to or is called to spread the faith. Though we are all expect to act as an example to others."

I think you mean 'apostles' (lit. 'one who is sent'). But that said, I'm going to borrow from an ironic source for my favorite response: "We've got heathens aplenty right here."

Blogger B-Rex March 09, 2018 9:50 AM  

@1: we already live in a country run by churchians and leftists. "Church" and state are never fully disperate because no humans are complete devoid of some sort of belief system. And right now the church of the left is almost the totally of the state. Thier church already took over the state, and they gotta keep pushing the old Christian ideas out to get rid of the competition. It's not about seperation, despite them relying on that term; their church is the state. So it is really conversion by force.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 09, 2018 9:53 AM  

"If you don't have separation of church and state, then there is no distinction between a sin and a crime."

That isn't even slightly logical. Extrapolate to the rest of that paragraph which makes progressively larger logical leaps.

Blogger pyrrhus March 09, 2018 10:04 AM  

The actual Establishment Clause states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." In other words, Congress is prohibited from any legislation in the area of religion.
This was likely due to the fact that a majority of the ratifying States had state religions, which they intended to keep.
When anti-Christian secularists and jews began to populate the Federal courts, however, the Establishment Clause was stood on its head to mean that Federal Courts could prohibit State support of Christianity in even the most simple, cultural ways.
It's one of the most drastic examples of SCOTUS simply rewriting
the Constituion to further marxist objectives.

Blogger Crush Limbraw March 09, 2018 10:08 AM  

Stop complicating 'making disciples' - it's nothing more than mentoring or teaching. There are no biblical exemptions for parents and their children. You mentor your own!
As to 'all nations' - it would be a natural process as your own family grows and prospers, as they expand their influence.
The problem we have had all along is that WeDaPeople have delegated our responsibility to the disciples of Old Scratch. We have no one else to blame but ourselves.

Blogger Schaden Freudean March 09, 2018 10:26 AM  

Hey Vox. Sorry if this is out of context, but a pro-Trump Japanese Youtuber was asking this on twitter, so I thought I'd let you know, see if you can contact her, if you can:

Yoko
‏ @randomyoko
8h8 hours ago

Guys! Would you help your sister out? I'm looking for comments by influential public figures that are pro-Trump's new tariffs. I want to introduce them to Japanese people and other Trump supporters because those are not getting covered by the MSM. Send them here if you know any!

Blogger Nate March 09, 2018 10:35 AM  

"Towns could not defend themselves because of the doctrine of free speech and the massively increased power of the northeast"

Fred... always wise... rightly puts the blame where it belongs. The Damn Yankees.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2018 10:42 AM  

On separation of church and state: the founding fathers' intent was that Christians would run the government, and the government would not run the church.

Government by Christian men is not theocracy. Government by athiests intent on imposing their beliefs by judicial fiat is a satanic theocracy.

Blogger Mr. Naron March 09, 2018 10:49 AM  

Separation of Church and State by Philip Hamburger is excellent.

https://www.amazon.com/Separation-Church-State-Philip-Hamburger/dp/0674013743/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520610541&sr=1-2&keywords=separation+of+church+and+state

Blogger Nate March 09, 2018 10:53 AM  

"On separation of church and state: the founding fathers' intent was that Christians would run the government, and the government would not run the church. "

correct. the term was first used in a speech delivered in a church to a congregation... assuring them that the new government would have no power or say at all on their church practices.

Blogger Hammerli280 March 09, 2018 10:57 AM  

I suspect the real issue was the massive collapse in Western self-confidence after the World Wars. Those had been fought with a ferocity that had not been seen since the Thirty Years War three centuries earlier, and shattered Western confidence in our own culture. The situation was not helped by Soviet saboteurs.

And there isn't much point in preserving your culture if you think it's a murder cult of some sort.

Of course, the West has a virtue not appreciated - self-criticism.

Blogger Lazarus March 09, 2018 11:01 AM  

Fred... always wise... rightly puts the blame where it belongs. The Damn Yankees.

Born in West Virginia

Blogger LP999-16 March 09, 2018 11:02 AM  

Uh-Oh Fred will be called bad-think racist by merely illuminating simple facts people have been saying for a while now. I am surprised he mentioned the "homogeneous" nations and how well they are doing.

SOKO, Japan get along, are talented, intelligent since they disallow immigration that is counter to their culture. Those lands are aware of inviting the low IQ factors into their lands to ruin their homelands.

No one asks Russia to invite those whom do not speak the language and are not of Russian heritage and that is how it should be, nationalism works.

The left or whomever does not understand there is no equality or peace/quiet in wide scale diversity, diversity is failed experiment and mass confusion.

Meanwhile America to the certain lands of the EU are living through a hell that gets worse every year.

Diversity also can create voilent zealots to harm and vilify the very relgiion and causcians whom have too much empathy and compassion allowing the worst into one's land, the central planners or whomever fully intended the bloodshed of Kate Steinle b/c white lives do not matter in America, here its evil to be white and nationwide certain white people walk around telling other white people to check their privileges so I tend wonder but I rarely state such, if diversity blended with the America's left is lunacy.

Blogger Nate March 09, 2018 11:03 AM  

"Born in West Virginia"

there is no such thing as west virginia. There is only Virginia. And it is all South of Mason Dixon line.

Blogger SemiSpook37 March 09, 2018 11:05 AM  

Granted, there have been Roman Catholics who have been involved with this country since its founding (they were primarily English and more well-to-do Irish), most notably Charles Carroll of Carrollton as being the only Catholic signer of the Declaration.

You’re correct that the MAJORITY of Italian and later Irish immigrants adhered to many of the destructive ideas that continue to push through the current system. However, it depends on who you talk to.

My ancestors were a part of the latter end of that 19th Century wave, but we were based out Eastern Europe (Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine). Four-five generations on, we’ve been pretty well assimilated into American society, and for many of us, a lot of those destructive ideas we see today are the exact kind of thing that said ancestors were trying to get far away from. It’s frustrating as hell to deal with.

Blogger OGRE March 09, 2018 11:05 AM  

Fred is spot on as he usually is. But he seems to be laboring under the belief that this divisiveness is simply an unintended consequence, when it is the primary and intended purpose of diversity.

Its a feature not a bug.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) March 09, 2018 11:09 AM  

Until roughly the Sixties, America was homogeneous enough, overwhelmingly white, European, Anglophone, and Christian. This provided sufficient commonalty that people all regarded themselves as Americans. At the same time, there were many geographically separated subcultures which had little in common and didn’t like each other, or wouldn’t have if they had come into contact. Massachusetts, Montana, Alabama, West Virginia, and New York were different civilizations....

Fred is confusing the national cohesion and integration created by WW1 and WW2 with historical American cultural norms. The postwar America of the fifties was an aberration.

Blogger pyrrhus March 09, 2018 11:19 AM  

@27 "The problem we have had all along is that WeDaPeople have delegated our responsibility to the disciples of Old Scratch. We have no one else to blame but ourselves."

More like WedaWimmen...None of this would have happened without woman's suffrage, the 19th Amendment and Prohibition, both pushed by the same gang of female socialists.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 09, 2018 11:33 AM  

@15

"Spot on Vox, as usual. One only needs to look to the 1950s when everyone brought guns to school and no one was ever hurt. The downhill slide began with R v Wade and removing prayer/Bible from school. Detractors can say what they want but cant argue with the calendar, and correlation of non events to escalating violence with R v W and removing Bible from schools."

and Norma McCorvey, who was the "Jane Roe" (legal anonymous name) in the Roe v Wade case stated publicly that some legal team took the case to the Supreme Court without her consent, making an argument that she never agreed with.

Blogger Avalanche March 09, 2018 12:00 PM  

@16 "Not what you appear to have meant. I would have expected "except themselves from" instead."

The Ilk and Minions gather around, rubbing their hands with anticipatory glee, waiting for the Dark Lord to deal with (silly) lese majeste.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 09, 2018 12:03 PM  

@28 Schaden Freudean
Yoko
‏ @randomyoko
---

I enjoy her youtube vids from time to time.
She is a yuuuge Trumpster in japan.

Blogger Avalanche March 09, 2018 12:04 PM  

@21 But he, I think, underestimates the savagery of pissed off Northern Europeans."

I PRAY he underestimates it! He has always angered me with his "ooohhh, Mexicans are great lovely people... Why 'you fellow White Americans' always saying such bad stuff about them?" (Sick of him, can you tell?)

"You love them so much/ Fine, you continue to believe that and live in THEIR country -- but call back all the ones who have invaded OUR country!"

He has been 'defending' them AS IF there were no invasion for several years at least! His loyalty cannot be questioned -- it's to his family and THEIR country! NOT ours!

Blogger Avalanche March 09, 2018 12:05 PM  

@21 "Of course those 'old' Mexican families are, if anything, even more pissed off about the illegal invasion than the Whites."

They doin' anything about it? Thought not.

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 12:08 PM  

> there is no such thing as west virginia. There is only Virginia. And it is all South of Mason Dixon line.

Actually, the northern panhandle of the "western part of Virginia" extends north of the Mason Dixon line. But I agree that there is only Virginia. The current divide is as artificial as East and West Germany was.

Blogger Nate March 09, 2018 12:15 PM  

"Actually, the northern panhandle of the "western part of Virginia" extends north of the Mason Dixon line"

the panhandle also doesn't exist. as it is closer to canada than charleston

OpenID zhukovg March 09, 2018 12:19 PM  

@SemiSpook37: I believe you were replying to me. I was, of course, speaking generally. There are always individual exceptions.

The basic rule, I would say is, never allow in enough of a national group such that they could form their own communities. It is particularly important that their prospects for marriage to another of their national group are kept to a minimum.

In my opinion, real assimilation needs both cultural and genetic immersion.

--ZhukovG

OpenID zhukovg March 09, 2018 12:32 PM  

@Avalanche: Mexicans are a fine people.... in Mexico.

As to the 'Old Families', I expect that they are doing about the same thing their Anglo neighbors have done. Vote for Donald Trump and hope for the best.

Blogger Jack Amok March 09, 2018 12:37 PM  

Think of the assault on the West as a shit test that never ends

It ends (at least for a while) when you pass it. But yes, this is exactly what's going on. We've given too much deference to matriarchal cultures.

Blogger James Dixon March 09, 2018 12:43 PM  

> the panhandle also doesn't exist. as it is closer to canada than charleston

You want to give up your rightful claim to territory extending to the Ohio River? That doesn't seem wise. Besides, that makes shipping captured SJW's into slavery in Canada easier.

Blogger Gary March 09, 2018 12:47 PM  

Re Matthew 28, as usual we only have a partial bible quote, missing out the important bit. Here's the quote in full:

'Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you'

These days, and even back in early America, nations didn't teach what Jesus commanded them (i.e. God's laws). Instead, we get some fuzzy liberal Churchian evil BS being taught, which totally ignores ALL of God's previous laws and commands, from family structure and authority, right on down through to civil and military matters.

Once you turn away from the commands, boom, God's going to desert you (see Leviticus 26). The only route back is also in that verse, and it doesn't involve civil war, or new governments, or a God-Emperor.

Just show faith, and follow the bloody commands.

Blogger dvdivx March 09, 2018 1:04 PM  

We were called as men to do missionary work in foreign lands if possible. Not women. We were not to have these foreigners invade our lands out of greed for cheep labor nor because they are refugees.

Blogger Desdichado March 09, 2018 1:22 PM  

Poor Fred. He's able to see past his blind spot and actually note that Mexican immigration to America is bad for America.

But just a few days ago, he posted an "oh, noez, muh holocaust" post. He gets it on so many things, but oh so stubbornly refuses to get it on others.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly March 09, 2018 1:52 PM  

The Tolstoy reference touches on two points I still wonder about. We have a large chunk of great novels that touch on the human spirit and the immortal from the time just before the Russian revolution. Is the US producing these great works, which will just be discovered later? Or is ours a culture in its death throes, instead of simple upheaval and strife that promotes such great works?

Maybe they ARE being written, and it will take future generations to find and treasure them. Mr. Wright's novels certainly seem to strike this path.

Blogger SemiSpook37 March 09, 2018 1:53 PM  

@ZhukovG

No disagreement there. I made it a point to move up in that regard (into the Anglo-Irish sect of the Catholic population).

Another factor to consider here is what one’s expectations are for their own personal culture. As a Traditionalist, both in terms of my Catholic faith and my American sensibilities, I like that my experiences and contributions are wholly unique cases that have given me truly enlightening insights as both a Catholic and an American.

The Modernist push led by Jorge and the various globalist bents we are dealing with have one thing in common: homogeneity. This idea that we all HAVE to be like everyone else. That stuff is boring. Again, if my ancestors came here to be unique, that should be a good thing, as long as such uniqueness doesn’t supplant the broader dominant culture. That means you adopt the language, mores, etc. to fit in. You don’t eschew that just because you might regret leaving. If that’s the case, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK.

Blogger Unknown March 09, 2018 2:41 PM  

>> IMO these national groups, largely Italian and Irish, became the political clout behind treasonous concepts such as, 'Nation of Immigrants' and 'Melting Pot'.

Yes, I know, Roman Catholic nationalities didn't invent these ideas, but they voted and continue to vote for them.<<

I find Italians to be the most level headed, traditional oriented of white voters. More so than old timey WASP populations. They have an innate ability to suss out bullshit.

I'm Irish, and most Irish are OK in sussing out bullshit, but something happens to them when they get in the voting booth and too many - way too many - just pull the lever for the left/libtard candidate. I think that they are afraid. In one form or another, the Irish cling to the welfare state. Irish politicians are another matter, 90% of them are treasonous.

Blogger SDaly March 09, 2018 2:51 PM  

Nate -

As I understand it, the Virginia territory included what is now divided among Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin and part of Minnesota.

Blogger KingTooter March 09, 2018 3:03 PM  

You can think the majority of the problem to the influx of eastern Europeans in the early 20th century who were predominantly marxists/talmud-jews. Sorry, that's the way it is. they destroy everything the come in contact with

Blogger MycroftJones March 09, 2018 3:09 PM  

Japan and Korea, homogeneous societies which, because homogeneous, have no race riots or religious wars.

This line brought a smile to my face. Guess Fred Reed hasn't seen TV footage of the Buddhist monks when they get up in arms and start throwing molotov cocktails around and fighting with the riot police in places like Korea.

Blogger Crush Limbraw March 09, 2018 3:15 PM  

And WeDaMen enabled it!

Blogger SirHamster March 09, 2018 3:38 PM  

pyrrhus wrote:More like WedaWimmen...None of this would have happened without woman's suffrage, the 19th Amendment and Prohibition, both pushed by the same gang of female socialists.

But women suffrage didn't vote in women suffrage. So you still have to bring the blame back to where it belongs.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 09, 2018 7:03 PM  

"But women suffrage didn't vote in women suffrage. So you still have to bring the blame back to where it belongs."

Ding!

Not saying that what the women have done isn't evil, but if the men are doing what the men ought be doing the women mostly fall in line.

Blogger Hammerli280 March 09, 2018 8:10 PM  

@51 James Dixon: "Besides, that makes shipping captured SJW's into slavery in Canada easier."

I thought the plan was to ship the SJWs overseas as compensation for immigrants we decide to keep. SOMEONE has to go back, after all.

Of course, we don't want to pollute foreign countries with SJW trash. So for every immigrant we keep, we ship two SJWs back...halfway.

Blogger Jeff March 09, 2018 8:45 PM  

Fred is an old man blinded by Mexican pudenda. If his woman were a Filipina, he'd be rooting for the Philippines.

Blogger Pale Male March 09, 2018 10:35 PM  

Avalanche wrote:The Ilk and Minions gather around, rubbing their hands with anticipatory glee, waiting for the Dark Lord to deal with (silly) lese majeste.
<crickets>

Anyone can have a brain-fart.  The mature thing to do is admit it and move on, or just ignore it.  It looks like that's what has happened here.

Blogger Xellos March 09, 2018 11:01 PM  

Pity that Fred doesn't seem to understand that Mexicans, Chinese etc do not become Americans and that immigration is what caused this destruction of national culture.

Blogger David Davenport March 09, 2018 11:40 PM  

"The Tolstoy reference touches on two points I still wonder about. We have a large chunk of great novels that touch on the human spirit and the immortal from the time just before the Russian revolution. Is the US producing these great works, which will just be discovered later?"

Novels are obsolete. Youtube videos are way better.

Blogger Kona Commuter March 10, 2018 3:44 AM  

Peaceful Poster wrote:VD, what is your opinion regarding the separation of Church and State?

Christian rule sounds good in theory but Churchian rule not so much.


Derailed the comments section from the very first comment?

Well done sir. *golf clap*


Blogger mike myfree March 10, 2018 3:57 AM  

Ken Prescott wrote:"There are very sound reasons that we see the same events play out again and again and again across the centuries."

Because a very few select people have "All Along the Watchtower" stuck in their heads? ;>)


Is that a Battlestar Galactica reference

OpenID Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass March 10, 2018 7:41 AM  

I read the article in its entirety. While Fred does a good summary, as others have said his blind spot is about Mexico and Mexicans. I'd further that about others from south of the border.

Those of you that were alive pre 80 know of a country that no longer exists. It's amazing how some things have changed so much, for better and worse, in my lifetime.

"Born in West Virginia'

there is no such thing as west virginia. There is only Virginia. And it is all South of Mason Dixon line."

@Nate I'd beg to differ for two reasons. 1) The gf lives here and I may be moving here for work. There's enough of a difference between the two to note. 2) You'd say this isn't a part of VA but you've got the D.C. corridor and plenty of Mexicans in VA. Another point would be WV went for der Trumpenführer and VA didn't (even without those pardoned felons).

Blogger rumpole5 March 10, 2018 8:09 AM  

I didn't know that Oliver Wendel Holmes Jr. was Jewish!

Blogger S'mon March 10, 2018 11:49 AM  

Athens was highly democratic (for good and ill) and run for the benefit of Athenians. Neither apply to the USA, which more resembles the USSR - slave empires with the core Russian/Anglo population suppressed for the benefit of minorities somewhat, but primarily to the benefit of cosmopolitan technocratic elites.

Blogger Nakota Publishing March 10, 2018 2:08 PM  

Even non-Christians should oppose this stupid and pointless war on Christianity!

Blogger Nakota Publishing March 10, 2018 2:16 PM  

Nate wrote:"Actually, the northern panhandle of the "western part of Virginia" extends north of the Mason Dixon line"

the panhandle also doesn't exist. as it is closer to canada than charleston


Many years ago I was on a bus tour with a bunch of other Midwestern kids when we made a stop west of D.C. We asked the lady at the gift shop if we were in West Virginia yet. She said, "Lord, no, this is Virginia. Those West Virginians are like animals."

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