Thursday, April 12, 2018

An ugly legacy

In more ways than one. Stan Lee's Marvel legacy is dissolving even as his health is failing:
Back in early February, fighting what he later called "a little bout of pneumonia," 95-year-old Stan Lee had an argument with his 67-year-old daughter, J.C. This was hardly unusual, but it seems to have been a breaking point.

The comic book legend — whose creative tenure at the helm of Marvel Comics beginning in New York in the early 1960s spawned Spider-Man, Black Panther and the X-Men and laid the foundation for superhero dominance in Hollywood that continues with the April 27 release of Avengers: Infinity War — sat in the office of his attorney Tom Lallas and signed a blistering declaration.

The Feb. 13 document, obtained by The Hollywood Reporter, begins with some background, explaining that Lee and his late wife had arranged a trust for their daughter because she had trouble supporting herself and often overspent. "It is not uncommon for J.C. to charge, in any given month, $20,000 to $40,000 on credit cards, sometimes more," the document states. It goes on to describe how, when he and his daughter disagree — "which is often" — she "typically yells and screams at me and cries hysterically if I do not capitulate."

Lee explains that J.C. will, "from time to time," demand changes to her trust, including the transfer of properties into her name. He has resisted such changes, he states, because they "would greatly increase the likelihood of her greatest fear: that after my death, she will become homeless and destitute."

The declaration then explicates how three men with "bad intentions" — Jerardo "Jerry" Olivarez, Keya Morgan and J.C.'s attorney, Kirk Schenck — had improperly influenced his daughter, a woman with "very few adult friends." The document claims the trio has "insinuated themselves into relationships with J.C. for an ulterior motive and purpose": to take advantage of Lee and "gain control over my assets, property and money."

Lee's estate is estimated to be worth between $50 million and $70 million (it's been reported he receives $1 million a year for his Marvel ties). And while his primary role with the company is now mostly ceremonial — including a cameo in nearly every film — he remains a deity in fanboy culture. Despite the fact that his health requires nursing care at home and on the road, up until his most recent illness, Lee was a jovial regular at international comic conventions, where he can draw thousands of paying autograph seekers.

A few days after the declaration was notarized, however, Lee changed his mind — or someone did. Whatever happened, Lallas was soon out as Lee's attorney in a confrontation that grew tense enough that the LAPD was called to the legend's Hollywood Hills home.
Whatever the truth of the matter is, it certainly isn't pleasant.

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Blogger Al From Bay Shore April 12, 2018 7:49 PM  

On positive note, I just finished issue #1 of Quantum Mortis. Definitely anticipating issue #2. And I got my eye on Rebel Dead Revenge.

Time to get those plastic bags and cardboard backings.

Blogger Wild Ape April 12, 2018 7:54 PM  

The story is that his daughter slammed his head against the wall and that he is being physically abused. Lee is sent to these comic cons and for hours on end retailers come by for him to sign memorabilia and such. They have a video of one of those events and the poor man is in obvious bad health and his handlers are pretty ruthless in making him go to these things. Very few comic fans make it to his table and they usually say nice things to him but many just thrust things in front of him to sign and it is a disgusting scene. Lee is an icon of Marvel---he IS Marvel and to see him in his twilight years this way is heart breaking. The accusations of him groping his nurses is nauseating. The man is 95. He is confused and he is treated more like a caged animal than a human being. I've met him once and he was vibrant, cool, and inspiring. I hope when the next Stan Lee comes that his initials are VD or CD, and the new comic giant is Arkhaven or the like. It is time for a new vision and not the same old rehash of the imps and harpies that currently control comics as far as I'm concerned.

Blogger Lazarus April 12, 2018 7:58 PM  

Thank goodness I am not 95 and have 70 million dollars and an idiot daughter.

Dodged a bullet there, I guess.

Does he know he can't take it with him or has he forgotten?

Blogger bob kek mando - ( I love the smell of Autism on the internet. It smells like ... victoREEEEEEEEE ) April 12, 2018 8:07 PM  

she obviously views him as an ATM.

Q: who raised her to think of her father that way?

Blogger Chris Lutz April 12, 2018 8:14 PM  

@4 It's not like she's going to get to enjoy it long either.

Blogger Wild Ape April 12, 2018 8:22 PM  

Lazarus---I've heard that being a multimillionaire is very stressful but I'm willing to take that chance. You can't take it all with you, true, but Lee's fortune will be squandered within a generation and Marvel's legacy is on life support. For me, my life has not improved or diminished at all during this. I appreciate all the good years and good stories that Marvel brought. I stopped reading years ago when they started tilting into the SJW hell. I miss the old Marvel but it is dead and it will not come back. They can put a label on it but the brand is ruined. I'm looking forward to Alt Hero.

Blogger rycamor April 12, 2018 8:57 PM  

Then there's this: Was Stan Lee’s Blood Stolen and Used to Sign Black Panther Comics? Not a joke.

Blogger Lazarus April 12, 2018 9:08 PM  

Lee explains that J.C. will, "from time to time," demand changes to her trust, including the transfer of properties into her name. He has resisted such changes, he states, because they "would greatly increase the likelihood of her greatest fear: that after my death, she will become homeless and destitute."

There are so many things wrong with the structure of this edifice, especially coming from a man on the verge of death that is worth $70 mil, that I can't even.

Blogger Lazarus April 12, 2018 9:09 PM  



Blogger Anno Ruse April 12, 2018 9:10 PM  

This ancient Jew has been a comic book gimmick for 30+ years. Even as a kid I knew he was irrelevant and his "Nuff Said!" columns were quaint reminders of the Bullpen that was.

In other words, just fucking croak. You'll get a nice credit at the end of a Marvel movie and then everyone will stop giving a shit about you. Fucking Jews, their pact with Satan gives them unnatural lifespans. You just can't get rid of these fuckers!

Blogger Avalanche April 12, 2018 9:19 PM  

OT: but maybe sorta connected, in terms of culture and politics? Very interesting interview with the founder of Ubi-Soft about Far Cry 5 -- and how creating and building that game changed him! (About half-way through dev, he sold his Prius and bought a jeep!) I've love to see a longer interview with him!

(There's also this warning: ***DO NOT watch this video if you haven't finished the game. This video contains spoilers for Farcry 5! WTF VICE*** Having not played, I don't know what the spoiler is. Oh, other commenters say: "They literally showed the end of the game lol" Other commenters also seem to offer up spoilers?)

But here's the 5 min. maybe watch the first 4?:
Far Cry 5’s Creator Is Worried The World Might Actually Be Ending

Blogger Nathan April 12, 2018 9:22 PM  

Oh my God.

Blogger Ceerilan April 12, 2018 9:26 PM  

It's certainly true that giving people without money sense the ownership of their assets isn't good for them in the long run. I saw a Stan Lee video on YouTube where he explained that he's essentially blind at this point, and entirely possible that someone slipped something past him to sign that he couldn't read. Being cautious about what is really going on is the right move, particularly with money and fame involved.

Blogger Drew April 12, 2018 9:32 PM  

Let's hope the heirs of Soros are equally mature and responsible.

Blogger tuberman April 12, 2018 9:39 PM  

Al, I just added another Castilia House book. Losing count, but they have been a nice discovery, when I'd almost given up on newer books. Also, 3 comics too.

Blogger Bob Loblaw April 12, 2018 9:44 PM  

Meh. This sort of stuff is pretty common when someone rich is about to kick the bucket. She's probably been spending that money in her head for thirty or forty years now, and the old bastard just won't die.

Blogger Matthew April 12, 2018 10:02 PM  

Wild Ape wrote:TThey have a video of one of those events and the poor man is in obvious bad health and his handlers are pretty ruthless in making him go to these things. He is confused and he is treated more like a caged animal than a human being.

Sort of like Elvis:

Blogger Hockey Monkey April 12, 2018 10:43 PM  

If you teach your kids the value of money and help them to view the family wealth as something to be grown and preserved, as opposed to a piggy bank, you don’t need trusts for them once they are adults. Letting the kids coast on the family wealth is the worst estate plan you can have.

Blogger Andrea Daley Utronebel April 12, 2018 11:42 PM  


Blogger LP999-16 April 13, 2018 12:00 AM  

Poor Stan, he needs a real advocate not this level of heart ache.

Indeed this is sad, elder abuse is very real.

Be aware of it, your very sibling might be abusing their authority if you are not POA. For example check any nursing home's complaint book (or ask for it, it exists, they must give you access to that) and be very very careful whom is in the inner circle, these 3 men and the daughter are not exercising love here.

Hopefully the father-daughter relationship can be healed and resolved but its a bad scene. Its wrong to stress out husbands, its wrong to stress out fathers to make them cry and make them unhappy over 50. Over 50 or in general do not stress out the elders, men care about spending, credit card charges over $50 per month is BS that alone causes great stress to the heart - I would not be surprised if this poor man via the attestation form (a form listing all illnesses part of the final death certificate contained in medical records) also dies of Takotsubo cardiomyopathy.

It is wrong as a adult child of aging parents to cry, bitch, beg, be abusive, cajole, manipulate elders like this.

That unfortunately, is what the parents do; they throw fits, take too many pills, forget what they took, fall, become very mean but adult children must remain objective to emotionless and work to ensure meds to therapy is there if the parents want it, sometimes parents in this sad state refuse all care, won't take some meds, won't eat, won't bath, deny or turn away health care providers, refuse to walk, refuse even a foot rub or massage therapy to surgeries due to their illnesses talking for them. However, its important to note lucidity and honor their wishes.

Be there, be loving do not resort to what this woman is doing, The daughter is in the wrong to spend so horrendously, that alone is abuse.

With elder care instead of crying through ER's to nursing homes to the funeral home and being emotional, it appears that the best way to cope with it is to accept these elder mood swings, accept the process of dying which I stated above the body starts shutting down, one's mind becomes hazy however in this case its the 3 men and the daughter whom are in the wrong, where was adult protective services (APS)? LAPD to ER's and caseworkers cannot do much but APS can.

Her first and top priority in regards to family care of parents is help them but carefully to barely exercising MPOA and POA authority to give the patient/parents some remaining control or volition to change whatever their final wishes are, honor those wishes and fulfill them. Do thy Fathers Will, honor what mom and dad want.

As our parents age they want to remain in control, provide and love their children no matter how old they are but its not reality sometimes it ends badly. In that with elder/geri-care and illnesses are speaking for them, in that its not his or her fault, its just a struggle of will and it appears she is a poor to corrupt POA/MPOA.

Pray for a good outcome b/c its not going to end well.

Blogger LP999-16 April 13, 2018 12:03 AM  

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Blogger LP999-16 April 13, 2018 12:38 AM  

Must hear;

Blogger SmockMan April 13, 2018 2:18 AM  

More enemy action in gamergate today. Some group calling themselves Bully Hunters was caught staging an anti bullying campaign. They tried to live stream on twitch, but it was obvious to all that everything was fake. Big surprise when people later find out the activist groups backing this scam. Steel Series and a few other corporations fell for this marketing scam, which I compared to Theranos.

Blogger Jack Amok April 13, 2018 3:51 AM  

Man, the picture of Lee's three "advisors" and his daughter is a testimony for physiognomy.

Anonymous Anonymous April 13, 2018 4:32 AM  

The picture of an old woman screeching in fristrated rage at her father trying (far too late) to treat her like an adult ...

Blogger AdognamedOp April 13, 2018 5:16 AM  

To heck with Stanley). He was coherent enough to make cameos in all those shitty Marvel flicks and was likely aware of the convergence therin. I'm sure he encouraged- or was supportive of- more of the same in print.
It kinda sucks that seismic cultural shifts can cause a person to reject icons. Marvel comics were a part of my childhood. I still have my collection. And that collecting bug, inspired by Stan, stayed with me to where I've memorized catalogues of Sports cards, Ancient coins and even vintage wrist watches.
The collectables market is all but dead right now but one can still be a steward to an antiquity and maintain it's preservation and History.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 13, 2018 7:12 AM  

Poor old guy. Stan deserved better

Blogger B.J. April 13, 2018 10:00 AM  

Money seldom lasts more than 3 generations. If Stan were smart he would have withheld every cent from his daughter until she married a man of his choosing.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 13, 2018 10:58 AM  

They put the boot to Stan Lee back in the 1990s, as I recall. Vultures have been after him ever since.

Blogger peppermint88 April 13, 2018 2:52 PM  

Her lack of character reflects on him, and his lack of character explains his work. Only George Lucas could possibly have made something like Star Wars, only Joe Sweden could make a TV show about ex-confederate South Pacific pirates.

The people we should feel sorry for are the people who had to put up with that dreck because decent people were schlonged out of the industry.

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