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Saturday, April 07, 2018

Calling Mary Beard

Mary Beard, to the front desk. Your services are required.
Historians believe the Queen is a descendant to the founder of Islam - after tracing her family tree back 43 generations.

The claim makes the British monarch a distant ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad.

The findings were first published in 1986 by Burke's Peerage, a British authority on royal pedigrees.

But the claim has recently resurfaced after a Moroccan newspaper said it had traced the queen's lineage back to the Prophet.
Forget Londonistan. Ukistan is go!

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106 Comments:

Blogger Aeoli April 07, 2018 11:02 AM  

So what you sayin is...melonheads is related?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 07, 2018 11:03 AM  

Is this the double top secret plan to avoid her decapitation by Islamic warriors?

Blogger Dirk Manly April 07, 2018 11:04 AM  

What's Arabic for "hasbara"?

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 11:06 AM  

"The claim makes the British monarch a distant ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad."

Damn these people are dumb. Was the queen born in 500 A.D.?
Muhammad would be HER ancestor, not the other way around.
BTW, she is a distant cousin of mine, pompous twit that she is.
And no, I am not in any way related to ol' crazy-eyes Kabul.

Blogger Howard Stone April 07, 2018 11:08 AM  

Well, there is a theory that Islam was the creation of the Catholic Church. Was Mohamed a Jesuit?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:09 AM  

Vox, how on Earth are you so sure Beard isn't already intimately involved?

Blogger OGRE April 07, 2018 11:09 AM  

Isn't it just wonderfully diverse how an island in the far corner of Europe was peopled by sub saharan Africans and Semites from the arabian penninsula?

I fucking love history!

Blogger Rough Carrigan April 07, 2018 11:10 AM  

Wait, does that make the House of Windsor likely shiites?

Blogger Hammerli280 April 07, 2018 11:10 AM  

Stuart revival, anyone?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:11 AM  

"Is this the double top secret plan to avoid her decapitation by Islamic warriors?"

And collect Jizyah.

Why reach for the Moon when you can stretch for the stars?

Blogger VFM #7634 April 07, 2018 11:17 AM  

Looks like the crossover occurred in Spain when an Arab princess married into the Christian aristocracy around 1100.

I suppose it's possible, although normally it's the Islamic side that sucks up other people's women.

Blogger exfarmkid April 07, 2018 11:18 AM  

Nobody could be stupid enough to believe this .... could they?

Blogger szopen April 07, 2018 11:21 AM  

Anyone with access to German news? What's happened in Muenster, with the car riding into the crowd? Is it accident or another terrorist attack?

Blogger Daniel Bendele April 07, 2018 11:25 AM  

szopen wrote:Anyone with access to German news? What's happened in Muenster, with the car riding into the crowd? Is it accident or another terrorist attack?

Apparently the driver shot himself which doesn't really sound like a Jihadi. I think we will have to wait and see.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:25 AM  

"Nobody could be stupid enough to believe this .... could they?"

The better question is: "even if this is the case, how significant is that 1/4,398,046,511,104 ?"

Blogger Otto Lamp April 07, 2018 11:26 AM  

There has always been a trend for the Brits to declare themselves the descendants (and thus rightful heirs and rulers) of the great religions of the world.

British royalty is descended from Mary Magdalene.

The English are the lost tribes of Israel.

Now we have, British royalty descended from Mohammed.

What is interesting in this latest move, the the unstated acknowledgment that Islam is now on par (or greater) than Christianity.

Blogger Servant of the Chief April 07, 2018 11:27 AM  

First Cheddar man, now Muhamedcester.

Blogger exfarmkid April 07, 2018 11:29 AM  

"The better question is:

I stand corrected

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:33 AM  

"There has always been a trend for the Brits to declare themselves the descendants (and thus rightful heirs and rulers) of the great religions of the world."

Pretty much every monarchic system does that. Even if they don't start out doing it, it's only a matter of time until someone offers to comb through the books to find or fabricate their significant ancestors in order to justify their rule.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 07, 2018 11:33 AM  

Divine right of kings

Blogger synp April 07, 2018 11:35 AM  

"The claim makes the British monarch a distant ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad."

That would require time travel, no?

But obviously if we assume 25 years per generation and doubling the number of ancestors with each generation, we're 55 generations from the prophet. We're all descended from everyone who was alive at the time.

Blogger tuberman April 07, 2018 11:36 AM  

The Queen Herself is likely promoting this. Go hide in your bunker Liz Queen. Oh, that's right bunkers blown. And, Epstein's tunnels are occupied now, and by troops and not children.

After the Princess Diana and her Islam boyfriend had that "accident" in the tunnel, good luck with hiding out in an Islamic county.

She's got one thing going for her, the Netherlands Queen makes her look good by comparison.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:43 AM  

"we're 55 generations from the prophet. We're all descended from everyone who was alive at the time."

If we're assuming that people mix a certain (minescule) amount between nations even that long ago (almost certainly true, given the infinitesimal amount required per the following) then it could quite truthfully be said that any random person on the face of the Earth likely has more of Muhammad's blood than can be proven of the Queen in question.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:45 AM  

Assuming of course that Muhammad actually existed, and wasn't a retro-historical rationalization for the arab's tribal/nepotistic infiltration-backstabbing-assimilation of the Persian empire.

Blogger Steve April 07, 2018 11:46 AM  

I'm pretty sure Mary Beard is descended from one of Mo's many pleasure ruminants.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 07, 2018 11:49 AM  

Steve wrote:I'm pretty sure Mary Beard is descended from one of Mo's many pleasure ruminants.

Sheep and goats are ruminants?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:52 AM  

"Sheep and goats are ruminants?"

Precisely, hence the beard.

Blogger Steve April 07, 2018 11:52 AM  

Sheep and goats are ruminants?

Who am I, Doctor Dolittle?

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 07, 2018 11:53 AM  

The Queen's lineage now has electolytes.

Blogger Lazarus April 07, 2018 11:53 AM  

Shia or Sunni bloodline?

Be that as it may, if Her Majesty tells them they have to go back, they will have to submit.

Blogger tuberman April 07, 2018 11:54 AM  

"Precisely, hence the beard."

And, if goat, the Y horns?

Blogger Steve April 07, 2018 11:55 AM  

If you've eaten at an "Indian" restaurant recently you probably have more Moslem DNA in you than the Queen does.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:57 AM  

"And, if goat, the Y horns?"

And hooves and hairy legs from either.

Now to fit in red skin pigmentation, are we going for a vegetable, or an infernal ancestor?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:59 AM  

"The Queen's lineage now has electolytes."

So does Lot's wife, just add water.

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 07, 2018 12:00 PM  

34. She was a little salty.

Blogger dienw April 07, 2018 12:01 PM  

Very doubtful. Very.

Blogger tuberman April 07, 2018 12:06 PM  

"Now to fit in red skin pigmentation, are we going for a vegetable, or an infernal ancestor?"

Depends on the amount of Horny Goat Weed she consumes! And, her MI6 agency training. Does she wear polka dots, and inside her lower lip, has she been branded? As in Hollywood, so in the UK, only more so. Disney provably got their ideas from the Brit elites.

Blogger Fifty Seven April 07, 2018 12:06 PM  

Gaius Julius Caesar, Son of Venus!

Alexander was suddenly found to be descended from Horus or Ra, IIRC, right around the time that became necessary.

Blogger Steve April 07, 2018 12:09 PM  

Very doubtful. Very.

I dunno tho. What do we really know about this "The Queen" character, anyway?

* Lives off the taxpayer
* All her kids look inbred
* Never been seen eating a bacon sandwich

Seems a bit sketchy if you ask me.

Blogger tuberman April 07, 2018 12:20 PM  

Hey, it depends on what the Royal Family believes and not us, and no conformation is needed from DNA tests for them, but it has been said Windsors are far more German than British. That has supposed evidence behind it, but who knows?

Why has almost all of Parliament and the two Crowns (Windsors and Mayor of London City where the world Banks reside) said nothing against the Muslim invasion, and the horrible Rapes and Trauma done to extremely below age British school girls? Only pedos would go along.

Blogger Dave April 07, 2018 12:34 PM  

Beard can't be bothered at this time. She's busy with her latest BBC TV programme Front Row Late. She hopes people will watch.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 12:36 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:
What's Arabic for "hasbara"?

It think it's baghdadbob'akhbar or something similar. The Musloids lie all the time but they're really amateurs at it when compared to the Talmudics. One almost (but not quite) has to admire the Musloids' sheer persistence at outrageous mendacity: Like Baghdad Bob's declaring a great Iraqi victory as US tanks rolled into view. The rug salesman in the souk ... piling B.S. on top of more B.S. nonstop. It's more entertaining and less insidious than the antics of the Littlest Chickenhawk and the other war-mongering neo-conmen, whose lies resulted in plenty of decent folks dead and wounded for life as they sit in Manhattan towers of polished coprolite and smirk at the stupid goyim.

Blogger OGRE April 07, 2018 12:37 PM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:
Now to fit in red skin pigmentation, are we going for a vegetable, or an infernal ancestor?


Oh didn't you know Queen Elizabeth is a direct descendant of La Malinche and Herman Cortes? So shes already got Aztec in her. Also some Djubagay too; its why she's so short.

Blogger Crew April 07, 2018 12:38 PM  

I guess that's why Prince Charles is such a goober then.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart April 07, 2018 12:39 PM  

Anyone with access to German news? What's happened in Muenster, with the car riding into the crowd? Is it accident or another terrorist attack?

I do. And it's definitely looking like some form of Attack with the police and German MSM claiming that the driver shot himself dead.

Apparently the driver shot himself which doesn't really sound like a Jihadi. I think we will have to wait and see

Also, German police and German MSM claiming that the police have found a "suspicious object" in the minivan. And asking all members of the public to clear the wider area of the attack.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart April 07, 2018 12:40 PM  

Further...., German MSM speculating that the "suspicious object" might be explosives. Which very much does sound like the ROP (religion of peace).

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 12:42 PM  

Franz Lyonheart wrote:Further...., German MSM speculating that the "suspicious object" might be explosives. Which very much does sound like the ROP (religion of peace).

Explosive news out of Germanistan!

Blogger Dave April 07, 2018 12:43 PM  

* Lives off the taxpayer
* All her kids look inbred
* Never been seen eating a bacon sandwich


Just a reflection on a growing segment of the population of Londonistan.

Blogger Steve April 07, 2018 12:46 PM  

Dave - Hopes may rise on the Grasmere.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart April 07, 2018 12:46 PM  

Explosive news out of Germanistan!

I half expected to be reprimanded by our esteemed host for replying to OT posts. However on second thought, this doesn't shape up to be that much OT after all.

Blogger bearspaw April 07, 2018 12:48 PM  

I knew all those dogs were just for show...

Blogger Steve April 07, 2018 12:50 PM  

Does this mean the KING RALPH remake is still on, starring Tommy Haas?

Blogger Franz Lyonheart April 07, 2018 12:51 PM  

If I'm being indulged any further :

Laut Polizei gibt es zudem Gerüchte, wonach zwei weitere Menschen aus dem Transporter gesprungen und geflüchtet seien könnten.

The MSM website Focus claims here that the police report that two people jumped out of the transporter (after the attack is the implication) and have escaped.

I'm confused....., it almost appears as if MSM and police tried to be transparent about their current knowledge of their actual information. So, what have they got to hide?

Blogger Tupla-J April 07, 2018 12:52 PM  

I find it cool that one can simultaneously be a distant descendant and an ancestor of the same person.

Blogger Aeoli April 07, 2018 12:58 PM  

The MSM website Focus claims here that the police report that two people jumped out of the transporter (after the attack is the implication) and have escaped.

After shooting the patsy in the head, presumably.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart April 07, 2018 1:03 PM  

17.06 Uhr: Wie die Polizei von Münster jetzt bestätigt, hat sich der Täter nach dem Attentat erschossen. Um wen es sich bei dem Attentäter handelt, ist bislang noch unklar.

Fairly certain it's ROP, or at a minimum, The above in translation : " Münster police confirm that the perpetrator has shot himself dead after the attack. At this stage it remains unclear who the assassin might be." Well of course they can't yet tell name, address and positive ID. But if he were of Northern European appearance, they would have trumpeted it from on high by now already. So, conversely, that must mean that the perpetrator can be fairly certainly expected to have southern / middle Eastern appearance.

Blogger Steve April 07, 2018 1:09 PM  

But if he were of Northern European appearance, they would have trumpeted it from on high by now already.

Eh. Not neccer-celery. Last year a guy went mental at a train station in Germany and shot a cop. The authorities were coy about his identity, but it later turned out to be a white American.

This one's probably kebab-related though.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 1:10 PM  

Franz Lyonheart wrote:I'm confused....., it almost appears as if MSM and police tried to be transparent about their current knowledge of their actual information. So, what have they got to hide?

This wasn't something that they were prepared for, and it doesn't fit any of their prepared responses? Maybe it's a legit German crazy, rather than the standard !German! sudden jihadi?

My German is no where near good enough to follow the link you gave, but from giggle translate, they are saying he's German (doesn't rule out !German!) and ``psychologically conspicuous.''

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 1:11 PM  

Steve wrote:Last year a guy went mental at a train station in Germany and shot a cop. The authorities were coy about his identity, but it later turned out to be a white American.

Well, it was still a problem for the Narrative, just a different part of the Narrative.

Blogger Johnny April 07, 2018 1:13 PM  

>>but it has been said Windsors are far more German than British.

Descendents of the Germans from Normandy, so all bet certain. But then British is not a race, so British and German is workable.

>>One almost (but not quite) has to admire the Musloids' sheer persistence at outrageous mendacity:

The latest zinger is that big shot Saudi Sheik saying in an interview he doesn't know a thing about Wahhabism, the faction of Islam that they push. (Yea, sure.)

>>Looks like the crossover occurred in Spain when an Arab princess married into the Christian aristocracy around 1100.

What leaps to mind for me is how self serving it would be for any Arab to claim being a descendent of the Prophet, that clever scoundrel.

Blogger Matt April 07, 2018 1:20 PM  

Yo, fam, I told yaz everywun wuz BLACK. Da Queen really be black cuz da JOOZ wuz BLACK, ya herd me?? We wuz QUEEEEEENZ

Blogger Longtime Lurker April 07, 2018 1:23 PM  

The Noble Liars are working overtime these days.

Blogger S1AL April 07, 2018 2:18 PM  

So the queen is related to most other European Royal families, and in one case this includes an Arab-by-way-of-Spain.

In other news, water is wet.

Blogger Akulkis April 07, 2018 2:40 PM  

The Windsors are of the House of Hanover. That's why the use of Hessian mercenaries at the start of the American Wat for Independence.

Blogger Akulkis April 07, 2018 2:42 PM  

German "suspicious object'

If it's not some sort of explosive, then it's a Dewalt 18 volt powered industrial sex toy.

Blogger tublecane April 07, 2018 2:45 PM  

"Ukstan is go!"

To be fair, monarchs aren't like the population of a nation. They often don't share their subjects' blood.

In the much more recent past, Lizzie's dynasty was called the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. It only changed to the Englishy Windsor after Britain started going to war with Germany. Despite being a direct descendent of William the Conqueror or whatever, she's quite German.

Her kids and grandkids have the additional admixture of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksberg, which is Dutch-German, and maybe there's Greek in there. I don't know.

Obviously, Central and Northwest European blood is very different from Muhammad's blood. But with the royal family there's not the expectation of pure Englishness there ought to be among the general English population.

Blogger Skyler the Weird April 07, 2018 2:48 PM  

I think Libby is a descendant of the Winter Queen, Elizabeth Stuart daughter of James I and sister of Charles I who married a German and who's Hanoverian grandson became George I.

Blogger tublecane April 07, 2018 2:48 PM  

@Tupla- J- You can be literally anything if the person describing you doesn't know what words mean.

Blogger Jack Amok April 07, 2018 2:54 PM  

Stuart revival, anyone?

Nah, all the way back to the House of Normandy. I'll stake my claim as a 25th generation descendant of William the Bastard. We Normans invaded the place to save it from foreign invaders once, we can do it again!

it has been said Windsors are far more German than British

Duh. They're the House of Hanover mixed with the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. When Queen Anne died, the English nobility decided they'd rather have a Protestant Kraut on the throne than another Roman Catholic Pict, so they brought in Anne's distant cousin, Georg Ludwig, as George I. From him all the way through George V, they married Germans. Elizabeth II is the first British Monarch since 1714 with a parent of nominally native blood (The Queen Mother, daughter of a Scottish earl).

Blogger Jack Amok April 07, 2018 2:55 PM  

From him all the way through George V, they married Germans.

Correction, there was one Danish princess in there...

Blogger Jack Amok April 07, 2018 2:57 PM  

Descendents of the Germans from Normandy

Sod off! Us Normans are vikings, not krauts.

Blogger Arthur Isaac April 07, 2018 3:10 PM  

Speaking of Germany...(OT)


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5589217/Lorry-crashes-crowd-Germany-leaving-three-dead.html

Blogger Dos Voltz April 07, 2018 3:19 PM  

It's always been Brittanistan to me...

well, since about '99 anyway.

Blogger Lovekraft April 07, 2018 3:21 PM  

She has somehow made it through the Rotherham rape gangs on her watch, so I seriously doubt some tabloid claim is going to affect her.

Blogger Johnny April 07, 2018 3:31 PM  

>>Sod off! Us Normans are vikings, not krauts.

If I remember correctly in the American Revolutionary war, the Hessian troops were raised in Germany (of course) by some local nobles who were related to the British king. For reason of politics the various nobles married into other noble families.

The "pure" or original German race was southern Scandinavian, probably from the low countries. Not all that different from Vikings. Often it is the language that separates the tribal people into groups.

When the evidence is thin, Germanic tribes are identified by their tendency to keep cattle and use oxen. I don't think the Vikings commonly had ox carts. They were the boat people, don't yah know.

Then again maybe I am just making all this stuff up.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 07, 2018 3:38 PM  

It is amazing that QE2 can just breeze through life without so much as a damn word about Rotherham and Telford.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton April 07, 2018 3:52 PM  

@15 in re degrees of familial divergence. Family legends can be wonderful, even if they require a few grams of salt on the side. For example, I was told that I am distantly related to that G> Allan Pinkerton who was Mr. Lincoln's Director of Intelligence; but in virtue of a divergence of the family tree back in Scotland before American Independence, the relationship - severalteenth cousin N-times removed - is irrelevant at law.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 07, 2018 3:52 PM  

“To be the caliph, one must meet conditions outlined in Sunni law—being a Muslim adult man of Quraysh descent; exhibiting moral probity and physical and mental integrity; and having ’amr, or authority."

William has most of that stuff already covered. Thanks to his father he pretty much qualifies as a second generation Muslim. He's alright on the moral probity (although Harry is clearly DQ'd) and physical/mental integrity front, (mental integrity is why his Dad would have to step aside).

Although not being a member of the Quraysh tribe will be a serious stumbling block for him.

However, it should be remembered the Ottoman sultans claimed the mantle of the Caliphate and none of them were Quraysh either.

Blogger Ransom Smith April 07, 2018 3:54 PM  

Pah!
I have a much better claim to the Duchy of Saxe-Coburg than the Mohammedians do to the Queen .
Kneel before me peasants. Your Duke hath spoken.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 3:59 PM  

The vikings (from Norse 'vikingr' which means 'raider'), where from Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and later Iceland. Hrolf the Ganger established the viking colony in France that became Normandy.
Vikings farmed anything that would grow in their environment including Cattle, Sheep, Goats, Pigs, Horses, Geese, Ducks and Chickens, Barley, Rye, Oats, Cabbages, Onions, Garlic, Leeks, Turnips, Beans, and Peas.

Blogger pyrrhus April 07, 2018 4:17 PM  

The claim is that the Royal Family is DESCENDED from Mohammed, not his ancestors...
Perhaps this explains the Queen's strange reticence about her dominion being conquered by a group of savages...

Blogger pyrrhus April 07, 2018 4:23 PM  

A new dimension has been added to the rulers of "Perfidious Albion." It also explains why the Bush clan, who are distantly related to the Royals, were so eager to import muslims into the US...

Blogger MB April 07, 2018 4:38 PM  

"The claim makes the British monarch a distant ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad."
I didn't know she is that old.

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 07, 2018 5:08 PM  

This also asserts legitimacy to rule UKstan on Muslim terms. Being descended from Muhammad is critical for any sort of caliph - al-Baghdadi was making the same claims.

The English are being replaced. The royals aren't going anywhere.

Blogger Robert Browning April 07, 2018 5:24 PM  

Islam was created by the Pope to retake Jerusalem from the Jews and the Pope creation has been successful for 1,400 years. You can search ever corner of the internet, you will not find a negative thought expressed by the Pope towards Islam, any where.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 5:53 PM  

Robert Browning wrote:Islam was created by the Pope to retake Jerusalem from the Jews and the Pope creation has been successful for 1,400 years.

That would explain why the Popes kept sending Crusades to take the Holy Land from the mohammedans, then - because they were happy with their mohammedan creation.

I've heard some silly smears against the Church of Rome, but this takes the buffalo cake.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 07, 2018 5:57 PM  

Popes have never said a bad word about Pokémon, either. Coincidence?

Blogger Matthew April 07, 2018 6:12 PM  

Robert Browning is the current worst commenter.

Blogger Allen Skeens April 07, 2018 6:15 PM  

Are the royals preparing for their country's future?

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 6:54 PM  

@ Vox Day

... and others ...

I think that a thread where discussion of the 16 points would be on-topic every once in a while would be nice.

I think it would be disruptive to just up and start a conversation of the points on just any old thread. So, once in a while maybe there should be a thread to discuss our understandings and/or quibble of the points.

My 2 cents.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 07, 2018 7:12 PM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly April 07, 2018 7:15 PM  

Translation:

Out of the 2x23 = 46 Alleles in cells, she MIGHT have 1 from MOSLEM ancestry. But more than likely, they were all wiped out after 6 generations (1/2)^6 = 1/64 of subsequent European-only intermarraiges of her ancestors.

Remember, always use the proper word, Moslem, because it makes MOSLEMS upset. And yet, they can't tell you why it makes them upset.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 07, 2018 7:19 PM  

@83
>>"The claim makes the British monarch a distant ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad."


> I didn't know she is that old.


Look at her skin!

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 07, 2018 8:07 PM  

@90. markstoval

I agree.

While it is necessary to tear down the deceptions of the Mary Beards, we also need positive alternatives. The 16 points are so rational and realistic; the are intuitively commonsensical to anyone stable who gives them a moment's thought. There's still so much potential there.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf April 07, 2018 8:30 PM  

The word Mohammad predates Islam, as evidenced on numerous dated Syrian coins.

More than likely Islam was a sidebranch of Christianity reconstituted as a religion centuries after a series of plagues depopulated both Byzantium and Persian cities (leaving them open to Arab caravans and desert dwellers).

Blogger Avalanche April 07, 2018 8:37 PM  

@76 "It is amazing that QE2 can just breeze through life without so much as a damn word about Rotherham and Telford."

Prolly no one dun tol' her! Doa'n wanna disturb her peace-and-quiet (well 'cept for them barkin' corgis?)

Blogger Avalanche April 07, 2018 8:39 PM  

@83 ""The claim makes the British monarch a distant ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad."
I didn't know she is that old."

You should see the painting in her attic!! Whew!

Blogger Avalanche April 07, 2018 8:43 PM  

@90 I think that a thread where discussion of the 16 points would be on-topic every once in a while would be nice.


And a Voxiversity on each point: history, basis/bases, and implementation? (Since you have nothing ELSE to do all day, Vox...)

Blogger Robert Browning April 07, 2018 8:46 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Robert Browning wrote:Islam was created by the Pope to retake Jerusalem from the Jews and the Pope creation has been successful for 1,400 years.

That would explain why the Popes kept sending Crusades to take the Holy Land from the mohammedans, then - because they were happy with their mohammedan creation.

I've heard some silly smears against the Church of Rome, but this takes the buffalo cake.



The agreement between the Pope and Islam was once Jerusalem was successfully taken from the Jews, Islam would return it to the Pope. Islam reneged on the agreement and the Popes crusaders attacked.

Blogger Thebrainfuggler April 07, 2018 9:58 PM  

The Windsors better watch it lest they choose to become enemies of Christendom

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 08, 2018 12:00 AM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Remember, always use the proper word, Moslem, because it makes MOSLEMS upset. And yet, they can't tell you why it makes them upset.

I like to call them mohammedan. I gather that's upsetting, too.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 08, 2018 1:31 AM  

Robert Browning,

How many Jews were there in Jerusalem after 70 AD? Enough to merit that kind of craziness from the Pope?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 08, 2018 2:38 AM  

"How many Jews were there in Jerusalem after 70 AD?"

There weren't even any before 70 AD. Judaeans and Judahites on the other hand...

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 7:20 AM  

Mohammad appears to be a corruption of a Syrian word for "prayer book". Around the time of the supposed birth of supposed Mohammad, it was not a personal name. At that time, "Mohammad says" means:"this [corrupted pronounciation] prayer book says"

There is no DIRECT evidence that Mohammad ever existed.

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 7:22 AM  

Mohammadean is good, too. Islam means "Obedience" and Sharia means "Submission"

Blogger flyingtiger April 09, 2018 10:42 AM  

So the Larouches were right. The British Royal family is the source of all evil.

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