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Wednesday, April 18, 2018

Conservatism and immigration

This earlier exchange epitomizes the result of all that legal, merit-based immigration that conservatives been championing since the rhetorical failure of their focus on "illegal immigration".
Raghav Hegde
LOL....I don't know whether to be outraged at some of the stuff you lot say about my people or laugh. Anyway, I will say just one thing. Microsoft market cap when the company was "less Indian" in 2009: $138 billion. Microsoft market cap now that it is a company of Indians, in 2018, $738 billion. Anyway, keep up with your silly rants against those "curries", "apus" or whateveer it is you call us :)

Sherwood family
Raghav Hegde: you just said it yourself. They are your people. Which is fine. Everyone has a people and should support them the best they can. But they are not our people. You have to go back. Make India Great Again.

Raghav Hegde
Sherwood family: Sure we will. But first we are gonna take over "your" companies and make them "our" companies. Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Adobe, Apple, IBM...you name it, we dominate. LOL...I bet you prefer the Mexicans or Latinos to us smelly Apus. At best, they work as your gardeners or house help or whatever. The little smelly ugly effete Indians, LOL, we are basically replacing you from your best jobs :) Go on, rant away :)

Sherwood family
So...Raghav Hegde's response is summed up as: all those things you say don't like about us...yeah...we are actually doing them and plan to do them a lot more and your noticing that is 'ranting'. Even Raghav Hegde's threats are parasitic at best: "we are gonna take over "your" companies and make them "our" companies." Don't be a parasite. Go Make India Great Again.
You see, conservatives have never understood that no one else in the world gives a damn about their high-minded principles. Which is ironic, given that conservatism, as it was originally conceived, was about the triumph of history and tradition over ideology and reason-based principles. Remember the phrase, "the democracy of the dead?" But what pass for conservatives today resolutely turn their face from the traditions of the past in favor of liberte, egalite, fraternite.

They have more in common with the French Revolution than the American one.

Recent conservative rhetoric has resorted to trying to equate the SJW Left with the Alt-Right. I suppose that's fair enough if you're talking about the anti-nationalist Fake Right cartoon version of Obama voters and EU supporters portrayed as the Alt-Right by the media. But any straightforward comparison of the 16 Points of the Alt-Right, or with the rising European nationalism, with the globalist, anti-American, and equalitarian values espoused by today's conservatives will clearly show that it is the conservative movement that is considerably far to our Left.

Every generation of Man prior to the Greatest Generation understood that a nation exists to benefit its posterity, even at the expense of all other nations. That is the traditional and true Right principle, and the perverted "conservatism" of today is the result of 120 years of virulent ahistorical, anti-American, anti-Christian, and anti-nationalist propaganda by self-serving immigrants. The Greatest Generation, the Baby Boomers, Generation X, and the Millennials are the only generations to have ever generally bought into the nonsense.

The exchange above illustrates what I mean when I say that European anti-Semitism is an accident of history. There is nothing special about the adversarial historical relationship between the two parties, it is simply what happens when low-trust cultures and high-trust cultures collide. Neither Jews nor Europeans understand its true nature or that the results would have been much the same if it had been a Chinese, an Indian, or any other high-performance, self-serving minority living parasitically in a high-trust, high-performance society. And almost everyone, on all sides, is going to be astonished by the eventual outcome, due to this failure to understand the nature of the historical situation.

For example, the Jews are already alarmed that the Chinese are successfully challenging their control over Hollywood and the Ivy League admissions offices. Do they really think they are going to be able to withstand the Indian plan to take over technology companies like Microsoft and Google or believe they will be able to hold onto the media, or even Wall Street when the Chinese decide to take it over with a double-envelopment from within and without.

That's the long-term logistical problem with permitting a parasitical, self-serving minority to take control of the societal high ground of a large nation. The influential minority simply doesn't have the numbers or the power to hold onto it when another, larger and more powerful, but equally self-serving minority decides to take it from them. As for relying on the canard of the supposedly superior intelligence explaining Jewish success, which mysteriously did not appear until the 20th century, keep in mind that there are several orders of magnitude more high-IQ Chinese and Indians than Jews.

The 21st century is not only going to be a historically interesting one, I believe it is going to turn out very, very different than almost anyone is imagining.

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Blogger Resident Moron™ April 18, 2018 5:08 AM  

I know we should all be used to it by now, but it’s always startling when the invaders cone right out in the open and declare their intentions without disguise.

Especially so when the SJW left cheers them for it while shrieking hysterically over the mildest interjection of reality from someone like Charles Murray, for example.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 18, 2018 5:08 AM  

Rude awakening coming for people like Raghav.

Blogger Shane Sullivan April 18, 2018 5:27 AM  

I prefer enemies that stare you down and challenge you to a fight; it's the ones that sneak around like rats that are the biggest nuisances.

Blogger Sherwood family April 18, 2018 5:29 AM  

Understanding the intersection and interaction between those two kinds of groups makes sense of so much that is otherwise hard to figure out historically.

It explains why the different groups act as they do even when it seems contrary to their interests.

Western Europeans are predisposed to trusting others within their societies even when it is observably damaging to do so.

Other low-trust groups are predisposed to abuse that trust over the short term even if it is observable that this is a bad strategy over the long term. The reason is because in their own home societies there is no long term trust outside of clan or kinship ties.

Which leads inevitably to the high trust majority in Western Europe losing its collective shit once it is abundantly clear that the high performance, low trust minority has been playing them as a matter of course.

Which is why the outcome is predictable and more or less horrible. It could be avoided but neither side is able to suppress those traits to which they are respectively predisposed.

Which leads one to another predisposition of the West: organized and sustained violence on a massive scale. It usually takes quite awhile to get that train out of the station but when it is up to speed getting it slowed down is not easily done.

Kipling perhaps summed it up best with his poem "The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon."

The money quote:

It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

Blogger Steve April 18, 2018 5:46 AM  

I work with Pajeets from time to time. Few things about these guys:

* They're mostly garbage at coding and technical work in general. You get the odd diamond, but the great majority of them couldn't find their own backsides with both hands and a torch and we'd get similar results by hiring tramps willing to code for vodka. The Indian mentality thinks cheating and goldbricking is clever, which is probably why there are no world-renowned software companies based in India.

* Every single Indian man I've ever met is a pathetic gamma Mummy's boy NiceGuy™ who creepily pedestalises white women or else a rapey gamma Mummy's boy who thirstily hovers around white women like a fly hoping to land on the arse of their sacred cows. Needless to say, white women hate them and Pajeet's not getting any. If Indians knew how to code, they'd invent a social network called Incelgram.

* Personal hygiene is basically cold fusion to Indians.

* Talking to Indians is boring and pointless, because they're mostly bootlickers who'll just ostentatiously agree with whatever Sahib says in a greasily transparent attempt to curry favour.

* Indians think they can speak English. Indians are wrong. There are cats on YouTube whose yowls and snarls are more comprehensible as human speech. They're probably better coders, too.

Basically, despite the benefits of a century of British rule, the Indians remain an off-brand people. The kind of folks Aldis might sell you, five for a pound, with a free side order of salmonella.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 18, 2018 5:53 AM  

Steve,

I agree with you on Indians and their lack of any social skills. How do they get wives back home, though? How does their incel behavior here translate to a billion Indians on the sub continent?

I've always wondered these things.

Blogger Rocklea Marina April 18, 2018 5:56 AM  

Steve,

They are good Movers and Packers though.

Blogger Aeoli April 18, 2018 5:56 AM  

Every generation of Man prior to the Greatest Generation understood that a nation exists to benefit its posterity, even at the expense of all other nations.

This phrasing will imply imperialism to an average binary thinker.

Blogger Steve April 18, 2018 5:57 AM  

:)

Blogger Aeoli April 18, 2018 6:02 AM  

The idea that enslaving other peoples is a bad long-term strategy because it makes you rootless is very difficult to understand

Blogger Steve April 18, 2018 6:10 AM  

Animal Mother - back home their Mums arrange a marriage and their Dads pay for the bride.

Even that isn't a sure thing, though. There's a massive excess of men in India thanks to them aborting girls, so there's about 50 million Pajeets (and rising) who have no chance of ever getting their chicken tikka freak on without visiting a brothel. India would be an ugly girl's paradise, if it wasn't for all the rape.

India has a yuge population, but not a high quality one. It's not the attractive Bollywood stars or clever brain surgeons who are pumping out 20 kids, it's dirt-poor rural peasants who spend most of their lives at the back end of a sweaty cow.

Blogger S'mon April 18, 2018 6:11 AM  

Jews losing control of the US Commanding Heights to Chinese & Indians - I can believe it in some sectors (Indians tech, Chinese higher ed) though I think it will be a long process. Hollywood and the media - hmm, Hollywood yes, journalism very slowly - and the journalist profession per se will remain Jewish dominated due to higher Jewish verbal ability. Law, only to a very limited extent.
Overall it's in Chinese interests to co-opt Jews, not openly oppose them. Indian power will remain relatively limited - the pool of very high IQ Indians is really not very deep - but Indians do have a verbal advantage over Chinese.

One thing about the Chinese is that their straightforwardness is I think more innately appealing to many whites, than the deceptive rhetoric of more verbally adept ethnies. This may have some impact at the margins - it would be important if whites were able to express self interests.

Blogger PCA April 18, 2018 6:14 AM  

Neither the Chinese nor the Indian are motivated by a messianic vision of a blended and generic humanity in thrall to a Chinese or Indian priesthood.

Neither the Chinese nor the Indian ever followed a psychopathic God who tells them to bring down all other national gods for they are idols, and that only their identity deserves to go on forever for they are covenanted with that God.

Blogger Raghav Hegde April 18, 2018 6:15 AM  

LOL...I'd enjoy this more if I wasn't so busy. Didn't expect to be given so much attention. Understand this: there is no such thing as "our" or "your" companies. MS, Google, Apple, etc. are MNCs, they are as much American as they are European as they are Indian. Corporations are not beholden to any country or race. There are smart Indians (like me), dumb Indians, smart Americans, dumb Americans. Just because you had a great past is no guarantee of a great future, and vice versa. Stop being so entitled - I am no liberal or leftist or whatever. I am a free market capitalist pig and an individualist. I know who I am and your insults mean nothing to me, LOL. We are all nations of one, competing as one - as individuals. I hate identity politics of any sort. Anyway, I was surprise by how much you lot underestimate "us" and by that token "me". Doesn't matter, the feeling is mutual :)

Blogger Steve April 18, 2018 6:19 AM  

There are smart Indians (like me)

Citation needed.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 18, 2018 6:22 AM  

Raghav,

That's where you're wrong,kiddo. Corporations are creatures of the state. They were given life by a state government and their corporate charter is not sacred. They are not sentient galactic entities.

You fail. You have to go back.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 6:25 AM  

We are all nations of one, competing as one - as individuals. I hate identity politics of any sort.

Sure you do. So, what is Hindi for "shut it down, the goyim know"?

Look, Raghav, you don't seem to understand. What you do or say doesn't matter. What I do or say doesn't matter. The fact is that your people play identity politics, the Chinese do, the Blacks do, and the Jews do. Various groups of whites are beginning to do the same, as we're already seeing in Hungary, for example.

And, if history is any sort of reasonable guide, somewhere between 50 and 150 million people will be killed in the grand war for the domination of the continent. If you were genuinely a smart Indian, you'd go back and avoid it. But you're not, so you won't.

Blogger Rocklea Marina April 18, 2018 6:25 AM  

"I hate identity politics of any sort."

Don't worry, so do conservatives. Wanna run for President?

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 6:26 AM  

Corporations are not beholden to any country or race.

As Stg58 observed, this is absolutely, literally, and legally incorrect.

Blogger Raghav Hegde April 18, 2018 6:29 AM  

Oh God...really...you people are stuck in the 20th century. You think Google or Apple have to stay in the US? They can go anywhere, operate anywhere. Corporations are not owned by the state, but by their stockholders. Stockholders can be from anywhere. Surely, you know that most of the Fortune 500 companies park most of their profits, trillions of dollars in offshore havens? Trust me, I am an admirer of Trump, and I like how he has brought the tax rate to 21% - it's only now they are bringing some of that back. Not because of any loyalty to USA, but because of the need to make profits. They will go where the profits are, do what they need to do to mak profits. Look, I know you lot are prejudiced against me, are probably racist too, but that's okay.. but at least don't be stupid. LOL. Bye for now, got work to do,

Blogger Desdichado April 18, 2018 6:30 AM  

Average IQ of India is 82. Even the "talented 10th" isn't that talented except at the very high end of that bracket.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 6:33 AM  

Oh God...really...you people are stuck in the 20th century. You think Google or Apple have to stay in the US? They can go anywhere, operate anywhere.

Yes, most certainly they do, if they want to operate in the USA. You're in well over your head here and you literally don't know what you are talking about.

The US can nationalize all their global assets tomorrow if they so choose.

Blogger Raghav Hegde April 18, 2018 6:34 AM  

"Average IQ of India is 82."

LOL is that supposed to be an insult? Understand this. Average Indian IQ may be 40 or 140, average American IQ can be 30 or 130 or whatever. What matters is "your" IQ - which going by the evidence of that post, is probably not much. Good luck.

Blogger Stilicho April 18, 2018 6:34 AM  

Secret king gonna secret king...

Let's review: Alexander kicked your ass, various asiatic nomads kicked your ass, the Mughals kicked your ass, the Portuguese kicked your ass (as far as they could be bothered), the British East India Company kicked your ass so thoroughly you're still suffering from an inferiority complex 200 years later. Even with all the technology of the West being given to you in the twentieth century, you still haven't mastered indoor plumbing. Even should your unlikely Curry Coup succeed somehow, you lot will be hawking buggy whips to drivers within a generation. So please, please, PLEASE take over MS, Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. We won't mourn their passing.

Blogger Rocklea Marina April 18, 2018 6:37 AM  

Brits should have pulled up the railways when they left.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club April 18, 2018 6:41 AM  

you people are stuck in the 20th century

Far better than being still mired in the 4th.

BC.

Blogger Samuel Nock April 18, 2018 6:41 AM  

I have frequently made the point about Jews being very similar to high caste Indians, with the key difference that Jews (by-and-large, or at least more so than Indians) were able to "pass" in American society and those infiltrate less obviously. This also accounts for the virulence of the animus that Whites feel once there is finally an awakening: It turns out that a hostile minority hiding in plain sight, and that is infuriating.

This Red Panels cartoon sums it up perfectly.

http://redpanels.com/169/

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 18, 2018 6:41 AM  

This is all so elementary, that it's what I've believed ever since I was a child. It took many years of thinking I was crazy before I finally shook free and realised that I had been closer to the truth than the Boomers let on.

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 18, 2018 6:42 AM  

It can be hard to explain to people that "equality" and it's attendant sins (racism, sexism, discrimination, etc.), as commonly understood in contemporary discourse, are (((Western))) phantasms. You simply don't find equivalent notions in other traditions. Elsewhere, noticing is just culture. This did take a long time to instill, but the shucking off process is being accelerated by first-hand exposure to vibrancy on an unprecedented scale.

As for "the nation of one" - an excellent illustration of the link between globalist ideology and invasion.

Blogger Raghav Hegde April 18, 2018 6:42 AM  

"Alexander kicked your ass"
This is exactly the sort of stupidity I see here. My ass will have to be more than 2000 years old for Alexander to kick it. Jeez, is this how you lot talk in real life as well? Get a brain.

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 18, 2018 6:43 AM  

its...

Argh.

Blogger The Lab Manager April 18, 2018 6:50 AM  

This where the open border 'libertardians' show their stupidity. I'm certainly mostly libertarian in a limited government sense, but you can't import thousands or more who are not assimilating to Western norms. Bad enough the 'pubic' schools suck at teaching anything Wester or some level of responsible individualism.

I have international friends, but yes, most of them need to go back.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 18, 2018 6:51 AM  

@5

Steve is 100% correct here.

I simply refuse to consider Indian programmers as partners because every single one of them is a "mechanical engineering major" who happens to be on a visa in Canada with his wife and working at Wendy's drive-through.

However, being in Toronto Canada, I've literally NEVER been hired by Canadians. Every single person who has hired me for programming jobs has been black afro-carribean or african. I shit you not.

The only people who won't discriminate against me as a hetero white programmer... is everybody else but white Canadians.

Remember, these are the descendants of people who treated my family like absolute scum, and now have the nerve to claim that "We're letting all these new, fun people in, JUST LIKE THE ITALIANS AND PORTUGUESE!"

Get out of North America while you can.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 6:51 AM  

This is exactly the sort of stupidity I see here. My ass will have to be more than 2000 years old for Alexander to kick it. Jeez, is this how you lot talk in real life as well? Get a brain.

Yes, we do, because it is English. The word "your" is both singular and plural. If you were an American, you would know this.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 18, 2018 6:52 AM  

"Your" ass. Yes, Street Shitter Raghav, he literally meant you are 2000 years old, and were around to get your ass kicked by Alexander the Great.

Blogger Stilicho April 18, 2018 6:53 AM  

@31 what is this "I" you speak of? I was under the impression that your "we" were going to take over... this is why English speakers laugh when Indians claim to speak/comprehend English. Govt schools don't work in Bombay either.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 18, 2018 6:55 AM  

@30

Alexander kicked your rear ends so hard that indian women still have asses flatter than a roti 'til this very day.

Blogger Robert Browning April 18, 2018 6:55 AM  

Come on, spill the beans.

Blogger Raghav Hegde April 18, 2018 6:58 AM  

Haha, arguing about semantics now? Clearly I'm dealing with an inferior bunch. What I meant was, what happened 2000 years ago, 1500 years ago or 500 years ago has no bearing on me. You don't become great even if your ancestor was Alexander and if your country beat mine in a way 3000 years ago, and vice versa. What matters is what you are now, who you are now. I got a lot of work to do, otherwise I would educate you lot more. But please, stop being stupid for heaven's sake. This won't help you survive in the real world.

OpenID markstoval April 18, 2018 6:58 AM  

"It's not the attractive Bollywood stars or clever brain surgeons who are pumping out 20 kids, it's dirt-poor rural peasants who spend most of their lives at the back end of a sweaty cow."

It is the same in all advance counties today. The low IQ are breeding like wildfire and their kids are surviving because of free food and health care. The high IQ people are not breeding at replacement even. And so, a problem for mankind. Indications are that there is a dark age coming. My question is, when will the dark age arrive?

In the US it is even worse since we are importing low quality people by the boxcar load.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 18, 2018 6:58 AM  

This is hilarious. Raghav has unintentionally displayed cargo cult thinking with respect to corporations.

This is really how he thinks corporations work.

Blogger Rocklea Marina April 18, 2018 7:10 AM  

"I got a lot of work to do"

Have a shower before you go.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 7:12 AM  

Haha, arguing about semantics now? Clearly I'm dealing with an inferior bunch. What I meant was, what happened 2000 years ago, 1500 years ago or 500 years ago has no bearing on me.

Of course what happened thousands of years ago has considerable bearing on you. It's called "genetics". You've now demonstrated that you don't understand US law, the English language, or science.

You're serving nicely as an object lesson to everyone here about the evils of legal immigration. You probably should have sent the guy who interviewed for you here instead, perhaps he would have less trouble keeping up.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 18, 2018 7:14 AM  

I wonder if he thinks the arrival of the British East India Company in India has any bearing on him.

OpenID nhinsnow April 18, 2018 7:21 AM  

Has this Raghav Hegde been around long? I like him. He brings the lolz.

It's like watching someone who read the abridged Art of War argue with a longtime military commander.

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 18, 2018 7:25 AM  

Come on. It's 2018...

Blogger Skyler the Weird April 18, 2018 7:25 AM  

He'll understand when the Big Corporations replace their Sepoys with Pinoys willing to 'program' for 20% less money.

Blogger Raghav Hegde April 18, 2018 7:27 AM  

This VD guy - you're the ring leader here? LOL, you're not really that smart you know. You make a lot of stupid assumptions, most of it based on racial stereotyping. In the real world, you and your bunch here would be called racist, but here, you're what? You have no idea how this world works. I do, which is why this is the first time I have commented in an online forum in over 10 years. No idea how I came here, guess the "Indians invading MS" talk did it. Was fun, but I can see why this is such a pointless exercise. Bye everyone. Just stop being so stupid, LOL.

I will just repeat the comment I started off with, and sign off.

LOL....I don't know whether to be outraged at some of the stuff you lot say about my people or laugh. Anyway, I will say just one thing. Microsoft market cap when the company was "less Indian" in 2009: $138 billion. Microsoft market cap now that it is a company of Indians, in 2018, $738 billion. Anyway, keep up with your silly rants against those "curries", "apus" or whateveer it is you call us :)

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 7:30 AM  

This VD guy - you're the ring leader here? LOL, you're not really that smart you know. You make a lot of stupid assumptions, most of it based on racial stereotyping. In the real world, you and your bunch here would be called racist, but here, you're what? You have no idea how this world works. I do, which is why this is the first time I have commented in an online forum in over 10 years. No idea how I came here, guess the "Indians invading MS" talk did it. Was fun, but I can see why this is such a pointless exercise. Bye everyone. Just stop being so stupid, LOL.

It's like watching a talking cat try to convince everyone that it's a dog.

Blogger Raghav Hegde April 18, 2018 7:32 AM  

"It's like watching a talking cat try to convince everyone that it's a dog."

You should have a lot of experience in that. LOL.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 18, 2018 7:34 AM  

Twitchy: LOL! Watch Raghav BRUTALLY shut down notorious racist Vox Day!

Blogger wreckage April 18, 2018 7:35 AM  

Uh, corporations have a nation wherein they are incorporated. Otherwise they don't exist. They're a legal entity, and thus exist within the bounds of the laws under which they are constituted. They have no extra-national power whatsoever, and can be nationalized at any time, as has happened repeatedly in India, as well as many other nations with broadly British-descended laws.

Average IQ matters because it sets a ceiling on the low end of society, and because, as noted here, the high IQ tend to deal themselves out of the breeding game.

Personally, I have nothing against anyone. A bit of immigration is great. But if a nation doesn't protect its constituent peoples first - be they English, Jew, or Indian nations comprised of those respective peoples - then they are betraying the people. That moral failure will lead to disaster, including if the beneficiaries of the failure are white.

And in fact we've seen that disaster unfold repeatedly in Africa with a WHITE high-performance minority, over, and over.

I'd argue that minorities being relatively low-trust or relatively high-trust is irrelevant to the disaster that will come; the question is whether they are willing to subsume their identity entirely, without reserve, into the nation they co-inhabit. Judaism is very very good at maintaining its self-identity; this is good for surviving hostile conquest, but bad for living peacably in host nations, even when the Jews and the host nation are both pacifistic.

Some degree of multiethnic migration has worked out reasonably well where the numbers were small and the culture compatible; by reasonably well I mean no pogroms; for example strongly Catholic Greeks and Italians integrate reasonably well and eventually their identity is subsumed.

But if you're preaching the moral goodness of mass immigration, you have to remember that implicitly you are approving of the mass cultural annihilation of the immigrants; that is what immigration, as opposed to displacement, *just is*, and is a simple reason quite external to the alt-right ethic, why just bringing all the people "here" to fix their problems is not, in fact, a good and moral idea; it's not even logically consistent.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 7:35 AM  

You should have a lot of experience in that. LOL.

You really need to work on your English. You see, "bye everyone" is what you say when you are leaving. Do you not understand the concept of leaving?

Don't worry. You will.

Blogger wreckage April 18, 2018 7:38 AM  

Raghav, are you volunteering to have your identity annihilated? To be nothing but what your neighbours are, nothing at all?

Blogger Desdichado April 18, 2018 7:42 AM  

Raghav Hegde wrote:"Average IQ of India is 82."

LOL is that supposed to be an insult? Understand this. Average Indian IQ may be 40 or 140, average American IQ can be 30 or 130 or whatever. What matters is "your" IQ - which going by the evidence of that post, is probably not much. Good luck.

You're not even having the same conversation the rest of us are having, and you can't even manage to figure that out. If you're supposed to be an example of the "smart" Indians, no wonder your country is a shithole.

Blogger Robert What? April 18, 2018 7:52 AM  

Jews love the idea of allowing in floods of immigrants that only challenge the White middle and lower middle classes. Allowing in floods of immigrants that challenge Jews themselves, not so much. Of course once you open that can of worms it is very difficult to put the cover back on.

Blogger wreckage April 18, 2018 7:59 AM  

@56, foolishness really, since they're all much more intolerant of Jews, and in the event that someone needs a UNIVERSAL scapegoat to unite disparate ethnic groups, guess who the go-to villain is? Yeah. Sadly, they've all drunk the Marxist cool-aid and are convinced that the nations that saved them and hosted them repeatedly over the last century or so are also far more vicious and awful than the nations they fled over that same time period.

I guess you can't fix stupid.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer April 18, 2018 8:00 AM  

I figured out over 20 years ago that outsourcing tech jobs to India would lead to Indians taking over the tech industry. You didn't need to be a genius to figure it out. The leadership was going to have to come from people who had experience in the industry. Give all the jobs to Indians, throw in a little clannishness, and there you go. If nothing else they were going to take the skills back to India and start their own companies, meanwhile we have a bunch of Americans who never had a chance to get the work experience, so can't compete. Turns out they don't need to work that hard. Just take over the existing companies.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer April 18, 2018 8:05 AM  

How do they get wives back home, though?

Arranged marriages. I've worked with more than one Indian that got married that way. One guy really lucked out. He was not attractive, but the wive his family arranged for him to marry was super model good looking.

OpenID markstoval April 18, 2018 8:09 AM  

The dot-Indian guy mentioned "racial stereotyping" as if that was always a BAD THING.

Stereotyping is merely recognizing the average characteristics of something. Ethnicity in this case. There will always be outliers and we all know that. Dr. Thomas Sowell is black and very, very smart; but that does not change the fact that the average African I meet will have an IQ near 85.

Evolution taught us to be able to discriminate based on our observations. This is a good thing, not bad.

Blogger Sherwood family April 18, 2018 8:13 AM  

It is unfortunate because had the United States and the West in general not been in the business of bleeding off the best and brightest from other lands Mr. Raghav Hegde would probably be in South Asia now trying to improve his country instead of on here arguing about things he doesn't seem to understand.

Multicultural immigration is a futile quest that wastes everyone's time and effort:

It wastes the time of the people in the country who receive the immigrants because they have to spend time and effort figuring out how to deal with all the negative externalities that come from bringing in people whose culture, education, and group proclivities make them function in ways that the receiving country's laws and customs weren't meant to deal with.

It is a misuse of the effort and energy of the country that sent them because in many cases they received an education and government resources to get them to the point where they are of age and even capable of emigration. All that effort and those resources lost to another country when it could have remained at home to build up the home nation.

And it is a waste of time and resources for the individual immigrant because while they may like their new home they are never going to fit in or be able to make complete sense of what is happening around them. Assimilation is hard. Which is why it is more common for immigrants to find a community of their own expatriots and live near them. That's not a surprise. The immigrant himself may have a thick enough skin to deal with that but it is an observable fact that their children usually will not. Nothing is more proverbial than the second generation resenting the country they were born in because their parents left the country their people are from. And that second generation, angry and with a chip on its shoulder, tends to be less successful in many significant ways than their parents, even if they better understand the nation they live in. And if they go back they are also an anomaly. It is tough.

I know all of this is true because I live overseas. I know what it means to be a stranger in another's gates. My children understand it. More importantly, I see the real damage to kids that comes from a lot of the mixed marriages that take place in the Foreign Service. Dad is from country X, Mom is from country Y. No matter where the kids end up they are neither fish nor fowl. It isn't their fault.

While most nations can tolerate a small number of people who fall into that category it is a huge problem when large numbers start to congregate because no matter how hard everybody tries the two do not and cannot successfully coexist. Like oil and water. You can try various means to emulsify the mixture but in no time at all you've got both liquids separating into greater globules and before long there is real conflict between the two.

Blogger Meimou April 18, 2018 8:13 AM  

Raghav Hegde
I will just repeat the comment I started off with, and sign off

Thank you come again!

Blogger Avalanche April 18, 2018 8:14 AM  

@12 "One thing about the Chinese is that their straightforwardness is I think more innately appealing to many whites"

!!!?! So you've never met or worked with any Chinese!? They are NOT "straight forward" -- they are "brutal" (direct) -- but they lie all the time to achieve their aims / put in over on the White folks!

Their 'appeal' to Whites is because Whites ACTUALLY think they are dealing honestly, like the Whites are! (Come one! Melamine in dog and baby food?! Lead in ANYthing metal they export? Selling poisonous FAKE eggs to their own people?!)

You're just not AWARE!

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer April 18, 2018 8:16 AM  

Wow, an Indian supports Globalism and is for open borders. That's really . . . shocking?

Blogger Nate April 18, 2018 8:17 AM  

while I certainly agree merit based immigration is no solution... its absolutely a step in the right direction. Its a big step in fact in terms of incrementalism. Once a big bureacracy is built to weight who gets in and who doesn't... its much easier to simply stop everyone from getting in by adjusting the rules in small technical ways that sound innocuous.

The left does it. I see no reason why we shouldn't.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer April 18, 2018 8:20 AM  

It is a misuse of the effort and energy of the country that sent them because in many cases they received an education and government resources to get them to the point where they are of age and even capable of emigration. All that effort and those resources lost to another country when it could have remained at home to build up the home nation.

I'm old enough to remember when this was left wing dogma. that bleeding off the best and brightest from undeveloped countries was colonialism in another form.

Blogger Avalanche April 18, 2018 8:30 AM  

@20 "You think Google or Apple have to stay in the US? They can go anywhere, operate anywhere."

IF all your insane bragging were even slightly true -- please DO try to explain how it is that YOUR people have never ever CREATED any of these corporations such as you crow that you're taking over?! Jesus -- without the Brits having FORCED Western civilization on your people, you'd still be shitting in fields Wait: what's the number? **Several orders of magnitude** more indians shit in the streets than in actual modern day -- you know WESTERN -- sanitary facilities? So, even AFTER having been "civilized" by WHITE WESTERNERS, you still ARE shitting in the streets!!

WHAT have the remnants of your (once-talented in a building / architectural way -- but NOT in modern governing, operating, technological ways) people done in the past couple hundred years that you can point to as *your* success -- besides INFEST and subvert WESTERN countries and technology?! These corporations you crow about taking over are WESTERN! Your people could not, did not, and will not be able to create any such things -- and probably will not be able to carry on what you have STOLEN from Westerners.

Your defensive squawking -- and petty, nasty, chortling -- that your people have taken over what OUR people built does not redound to YOUR people's credit.

You must go back -- and take all your kind with you -- then good LUCK keeping a modern technological society operating in that third-world shithole you ESCAPED FROM to come to the First World and pretend you had ANY hand in it!!

Blogger Othello April 18, 2018 8:36 AM  

"There is nothing special about the adversarial historical relationship between the two parties, it is simply what happens when low-trust cultures and high-trust cultures collide."

Great point.

Makes sense after the divorce discussion yesterday. The American legal system is an adversarial system. Divorce is an adversarial process. In that system, the lawyers get paid, up front. They don't work for the high-trust founding father to win or lose. Conflict. Agitation. It's how they tell stories in their court.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 18, 2018 8:41 AM  

Ron Winkleheimer wrote:Wow, an Indian supports Globalism and is for open borders. That's really . . . shocking?

Note that Apu is supporting globalism and open borders for our country, not for his. How 'bout it, Raghav, when will you start pushing for India to open the border with Bangladesh?

Open borders for thee but not for mee, says every parasite ever.

Blogger Robert Divinity April 18, 2018 8:45 AM  

I am somewhat of a sociosexual-profile agnostic, then someone like Ghandi Gamma appears and erases all doubt. Classic.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 18, 2018 8:45 AM  

Raghav Hegde wrote:You think Google or Apple have to stay in the US? They can go anywhere, operate anywhere.

Show us, Apu. Take ``your'' company to Sweatypore and prove it. Or to Mumbai - I hear they have the best movers and packers.

Blogger dienw April 18, 2018 8:52 AM  

Raghav Hegde wrote:[W]hat happened 2000 years ago, 1500 years ago or 500 years ago has no bearing on me.

Yes it does: the Hindi have been affected philosophically, spiritually, and epigentically. Furthermore, your culture is very likely to be affected by the invading Chinese.

You don't become great even if your ancestor was Alexander and if your country beat mine in a way 3000 years ago....

We know that it is in us to come in and stir your curry.

OpenID markstoval April 18, 2018 8:57 AM  

"... much easier to simply stop everyone from getting in by adjusting the rules in small technical ways that sound innocuous."

I am afraid we do not have that much time left. The US is nearly lost already.

We can certainly try the incremental approach, but reducing the invasion by a small amount is not going to gain much. On the other hand, I am not sure we have time for anything other than all out war.

Blogger Al Du Clur April 18, 2018 8:58 AM  

The idea whites are going to do anything to stop the takeover of major companies by Indians or nationalize assets if those companies are moved to India is likely a fairytale to help whites be in denial about what is happening to their country and their race.

Whites won't have a say in it because by the time whites are pissed enough in mass, they will no longer have the electoral clout.

What will no doubt happen is Sailer's Coalition of the Fringes will start turning on each other. As Vox notes, Jews are going to start feeling threatened eventually. Chinese and Indians will both be trying to grab power from Jews. Blacks and Hispanics will be pissed that all the wealth is with whites and Asians. I don't know how that will all play out but, like in Zimbabwe and South Africa, whites will not play an important part unless one of the other groups need them in a coalition.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 9:02 AM  

Once a big bureacracy is built to weight who gets in and who doesn't... its much easier to simply stop everyone from getting in by adjusting the rules in small technical ways that sound innocuous.

Too late. It would have worked in 1986. Not now.

The left does it. I see no reason why we shouldn't.

It won't work. The tipping point is past. The die is already cast. Humanity is overdue for a big war anyhow. Peak population, peak this, peak that, it's inevitable. The only questions are where does it start and why?

I'm sure we can all think of a few probable candidates, but it will probably be somewhere and something that will surprise us.

Blogger pyrrhus April 18, 2018 9:05 AM  

@63 China is a culture of shame, not guilt...Shame occurs when you get caught and exposed...o/w poisoning babies is just fine.

Blogger pyrrhus April 18, 2018 9:09 AM  

It is waaaay too late for incremental solutions. When the imported parasites start getting elected to important positions and lecturing you about how all your companies belong to them, it's either drastic action or becoming a footnote to history....

Blogger dienw April 18, 2018 9:10 AM  

Markstoval: Indications are that there is a dark age coming. My question is, when will the dark age arrive?

I think the dark age is here; it has been done incrementally at an ever increasing pace. Since 1945, each generation has been cut off from past generations and dumbed down and corrupted more than the last: for example, the so-called new math of the past ten years (I have forgotten the proper name for it) is so radically different at the elementary school level that parents are complaining that they do not comprehend it; as for morals and religion, we have been seduced ever do delightedly starting with Hugh Hefner and proceeding through the decade of Love and the sexual revolution to the hook up generation that we are no a culture given over to the ancient worship of Baal Peor: the worship of the Lord of the Open Hole: when you see the rainbow flag flying out side your local church, that "church" is fully given over to the doctrines of Baalam.

Blogger Sherwood family April 18, 2018 9:12 AM  

If Whites are no longer able to make changes to take care of themselves at the ballot box they will eventually turn to the contents of other boxes, if you get my drift.

This isn't that hard. The majority of the country (still) is not simply going to look the other way while they are wiped out.

This isn't Zimbabwe or South Africa with a small number of whites sitting on top of a much larger number of blacks. This is the other way around. Whites still make up 77% of the population. That other 23% is going to be hard pressed to do much, especially since it IS a coalition of the fringes, if whites decide that they are not particularly keen on that happening.

Blogger Bogey April 18, 2018 9:20 AM  

Conservatives never understood how important the pop culture war was. Just 2 years ago Rush Limbaugh admitted he never took it too seriously.

Blogger Sherwood family April 18, 2018 9:22 AM  

The Dark Age started July 28, 1914. They take awhile to get going but ours has been on for a little more than 100 years now. We even have our own barbarian invasions/Volkerwanderung in case anyone was afraid of missing the good stuff.

Blogger Nate April 18, 2018 9:37 AM  

"It won't work. The tipping point is past. The die is already cast. "

oh don't think its a panacea. But I think you're over-estimating how bad the issue is in america. Populations move so easily now. I don't see the hispanics for example actually bothering to fight. Oh in places like California maybe... but in general what we see is when they are pushed.. when there are actual risks they face... they bailout.

Simply passing a law that said new enrollees in public schools would be asked to show citizenship... the whole mexican population of alabama disappeared. almost over night. I mean yes I am exaggerating... but we literally have no mexicans here anymore.

They stay because there are no risks. there are no possible negative consequences. The reason I don't think it will get to war is that there are a lot of steps before war that will, i think, cause the vast majority of them to go back on their own.

Now... the situation in europe? Totally different.

y'all don't have a mexican problem over there. Believe me... you would much rather have an aztec problem than what you folks have imported.

Blogger James Dixon April 18, 2018 9:43 AM  

> I'd enjoy this more if I wasn't so busy.

Those Uber passengers won't drive themselves.

> There are smart Indians (like me)

Smart is a relative term. And the fact you posted this indicates you're not as smart as you think you are.

> Haha, arguing about semantics now?

You don't even know the plain meaning of usual English words and you think we're arguing semantics? And you think you're a smart Indian?

> and if your country beat mine in a way 3000 years ago

Nor do you even know your own history. It wasn't 3000 years ago the British kicked your ass.

> Have a shower before you go.

Nah, Uber riders are used to it.

> LOL, you're not really that smart you know.

Someone won't be around long, I see. And you might want to look at this: https://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-definitive-iq-list.html

Blogger Dangeresque April 18, 2018 9:46 AM  

VD wrote:And, if history is any sort of reasonable guide, somewhere between 50 and 150 million people will be killed in the grand war for the domination of the continent. If you were genuinely a smart Indian, you'd go back and avoid it. But you're not, so you won't.

Exactly. Barbarians always inherit, if anything, only the smoldering wreckage of a once-great civilization. It's like a cultural version of the observer effect paradox. The taking of the society always destroys it's original value.

Blogger Desdichado April 18, 2018 9:52 AM  

@82: I dunno. r-strategists are r-strategists. The Mahometan has been accustomed to thinking that if he acts all belligerent and offended he'll get his way, but it just requires a little bit firmer pushback than the Aztec. I doubt they will stay and fight much harder than the wetbacks when it really comes down to it. This wave of Islamic invasion is nothing like that of the ascendant Ottoman conquest, it's just opportunists looking for a free buck.

OpenID littl3x April 18, 2018 9:52 AM  

I went from liking Indians to loathing them in less than five years. I realized two things. The first is that all the Indians I'd met and liked were Christians. The HS does his work in all people, even if he doesn't change their nature completely (this is a feature, not a bug, as he likes variety). I don't I ever came across Hindus until the age of tech and they're less than impressive.

The second is that the loathe, and hate, Meds and Southern Europeans more than anyone. They're jealous of the fact that we get to be white while they're stuck being the dung heap of the Caucasian pile. Sorry, your Aryan ancestors picked the wrong place to park their horses.
They look their noses down at people who are blue collar workers as inferior. I would rather deal with 100 E. Asians and 500 Slavs than deal with 10 Indians IRL.

It's a sad thing, because I know some Indians are nice, and I do have a sincere love for the Christians in India who are suffering. But I liked them so much better when they were over there and not over here.

Blogger Bobiojimbo April 18, 2018 9:55 AM  

Raghav Hegde, thank you for admitting that you can't create anything on your own. Thankfully, you don't have to. I'll let you in on a secret: you can copy the success of others - they even share how they did it. Go back to India, make India great again.

Blogger beerme April 18, 2018 9:55 AM  

Indian shows up to shit it down, VP comment section responds with a firehose and soap. Make Hygiene Great Again.

Blogger haus frau April 18, 2018 10:03 AM  

All you ladies and gentlemen who work with indians, is that level of arrogant gamma the norm for their men? Certainly explains the Indian woman who turned down an arranged marriage only because she didnt want to get rid of her dog.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/pets/news-features/woman-turns-down-arranged-marriage-because-eligible-bachelor-did/amp/

They so not sound like men who would be successful at all in the U.S. without the government putting its thumb on the wage scale, high iq or whatever.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams April 18, 2018 10:07 AM  

@haus frau

Yes, this gamma is fairly typical of the "bad" Indian.

Blogger Zapp Brannigan April 18, 2018 10:09 AM  

@79

I don't think your percentage is correct. I seem to remember reading that Whites make up only about 63 - 66% of the population.

Regardless, as a man with three young children, I hope to God you're right.

Blogger peppermint88 April 18, 2018 10:25 AM  

New technology and Hollywood having terrible products means Hollywood is going away. Journalism is right now being cut down to size. Tech companies will always exist, but not Indian tech companies, because they make terrible programmers, but tech companies don't need good programmers, Facebook has your data and Microsoft has compatibility the latest games. Law, government, academia, are vastly overbloated and will shed the majority of personnel.

Blogger justaguy April 18, 2018 10:29 AM  

When analyzing Indian immigration, it is important to remember that India is severely segregated into castes and what caste we are discussing matters greatly. In a country of over 1 billion, even the top caste has large numbers and they are cultured, intelligent, hard-working, and have loyalty to their clan, family and country. The discussions above do not seem to be the top caste but maybe the second and third castes. But, I agree with VD (of course) that even the top caste immigration is not reinforcing our culture.

Blogger owlish April 18, 2018 10:43 AM  

Arranged marriage.

Blogger TheMaleRei April 18, 2018 10:53 AM  

Dim wit here, but did the gentleman actually posit that Microsoft's increase in value was due solely or in large part because of importing serf labor from India?

I find such an assertion false and foolish.

Blogger kurt9 April 18, 2018 10:56 AM  

Well, I have noticed that software these days has become bloatware. Its often buggy as well.

Indians focus on software (the ones who can actually code) and IT services. You will note that they NEVER have anything to do with technology manufacturing (semiconductors, flat panel displays, LED's, optoelectronics, and the like) let alone bio-engineering. The Northeast Asians, especially Chinese, focus on these things.

I think Indians, in general, are overrated.

Blogger Sean Carnegie April 18, 2018 10:57 AM  

Indeed, Indians are making Canada’s roads more dangerous, too. #HumboldtStrong would be to actually address immigration.

Blogger Jack Amok April 18, 2018 11:17 AM  

y'all don't have a mexican problem over there. Believe me... you would much rather have an aztec problem than what you folks have imported.

If nothing else, the countries the Aztecs come from are a lot more willing to take them back than the muzzie countries.

As far as Raghav and his claims about MSFT, I worked there from the early 90's into the mid aughts, the time frame that he and his streetshitters came along. He brags about market cap in inflated funny-money Fed dollars, but the real question is, when was the last time MSFT did something new that was relevant? It's just coasting on the work done 20 to 30 years ago.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 18, 2018 11:17 AM  

haus frau wrote:All you ladies and gentlemen who work with indians, is that level of arrogant gamma the norm for their men? Certainly explains the Indian woman who turned down an arranged marriage only because she didnt want to get rid of her dog.
Yes, this is normal behavior for a Hindoo.

Blogger wreckage April 18, 2018 11:18 AM  

The thing about the emergence of white identity (and yeah, it's not an ethnicity, but it is becoming an identity) in the USA is that even with the worst projections and the least generous definitions of "white", it will still form by far the largest minority.

However, identity politics are already coming into play. I don't LIKE identity politics, but they are inevitable, indeed they have already happened; and identity POLICIES in one form or another will follow.

The interesting part is this: modernity has permitted massive and rapid people-movements one way, and it will just as easily permit them the other. While this won't reverse Vox's observed trends completely, it will mean that the partial reversal will be sudden. To the point of potentially being "overnight".

Whether it amounts to enough to defuse the war Vox foresees is an open question, but part of the unexpected aspect of this whole situation is going to be the size of demographic delta-v.

Blogger Jack Amok April 18, 2018 11:19 AM  

Another thing about India... a billion people and how many Olympic gold medals? World's least athletic people...

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 18, 2018 11:21 AM  

TheMaleRei wrote:Dim wit here, but did the gentleman actually posit that Microsoft's increase in value was due solely or in large part because of importing serf labor from India?

I find such an assertion false and foolish.


He does seem to be taking credit for the Federal Reserve's stock market bubble.

Are you going to take credit for Microsoft's lowered market cap after the next crash, Rag-heave?

Blogger Jack Amok April 18, 2018 11:29 AM  

The Rage of the Raghav...

Blogger Sherwood family April 18, 2018 11:30 AM  

Okay guys, I admit it. I touched the poop. I didn't realize that was what I was doing when it came to this guy.

Blogger Dave April 18, 2018 11:35 AM  

For all the ladies out there...

https://get.google.com/u/0/albumarchive/114941405832264847594/album/AF1QipNuVou6kiIC9TJEYFfpRAuPnexTxKACWky0XFcI/AF1QipMBREHGEd10hajUy4v0zCie3-yXEmuAG8b1JhqY

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 11:36 AM  

No, Raghav Hegde, you said you were leaving. Now, stay gone.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 11:45 AM  

Oh, good. Now we're at the stage where the Gamma insists that deleting his very valuable words is fear-based cowardice.

Never heard that one before.

Blogger James Dixon April 18, 2018 11:46 AM  

> He brags about market cap in inflated funny-money Fed dollars

Yeah. He either thinks we don't understand inflation or he doesn't. I'd guess the latter.

> Now, stay gone.

Like I said. When will people learn it's not polite to insult your host?

Blogger VFM #7634 April 18, 2018 11:47 AM  

"Raghav Hegde
Sherwood family: Sure we will. But first we are gonna take over "your" companies and make them "our" companies. Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Adobe, Apple, IBM...you name it, we dominate. LOL...I bet you prefer the Mexicans or Latinos to us smelly Apus. At best, they work as your gardeners or house help or whatever. The little smelly ugly effete Indians, LOL, we are basically replacing you from your best jobs :) Go on, rant away :)"

Just one example of many why anti-Indian pogroms are coming.

Blogger James Dixon April 18, 2018 11:47 AM  

> Okay guys, I admit it. I touched the poop.

We all make that mistake on occasion. Vox seems to be fairly forgiving as long as it's not a continuous problem.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 11:47 AM  

You still have to go back, Raghav Hegde. We don't require comments from you or from Movers and Packers Mumbai.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 18, 2018 11:51 AM  

I went from liking Indians to loathing them in less than five years. I realized two things. The first is that all the Indians I'd met and liked were Christians.

@86 littl3x
Why am I not a da*n bit surprised?

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams April 18, 2018 11:58 AM  

@105

Who could resist? Every American woman with self esteem.

OpenID bgkoranburner April 18, 2018 12:00 PM  

keep in mind that there are several orders of magnitude more high-IQ Chinese and Indians than Jews

Not sure there are enough high IQ Dot Indians to make that claim as opposed to cheated test Indians. Bhopal India had Indians who could pass QA & safety testing tests on paper, but gas beats paper 15000 times.

There are smart Indians (like me), dumb Indians, smart Americans, dumb Americans.

The tiniest/best caste in India is equal to the whites in West Virginia, but without future orientation.

It is waaaay too late for incremental solutions. When the imported parasites start getting elected to important positions

After overrunning Boy Scouts 2000 supreme court decision, & little girls bathrooms NIGTRANNIES are targeting 4-H farm kids
http://www.wnd.com/2018/04/wrath-of-god-promised-if-4-h-adopts-transgender-policies/

Raghav Hegde, ...I'll let you in on a secret: you can copy the success of others... Go back to India, make India great again

Make Bhopal India Great Again. Parasites like Raghav can't even copy correctly if their lives depend on it.

Another thing about India... a billion people and how many Olympic gold medals? World's least athletic people

Take away short distance run events & what do blacks have?

Blogger Nick April 18, 2018 12:04 PM  

Lol is that what helps you sleep at night? Vox's prophecy that white people will eventually rise up from the ashes and rightfully reclaim what's there's? No. That's not going to happen, friend. There's absolutely no reason to think it. Make your peace with Christ. Accept that the coloreds ruling the world will help usher in the end. Can you live with that?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 18, 2018 12:09 PM  

Shut up Tad. Banned is banned.

Blogger Chiva April 18, 2018 12:12 PM  

I went from liking Indians to loathing them in less than five years. I realized two things. The first is that all the Indians I'd met and liked were Christians.

I have worked with Indians for many years now. The ones I have the best experience working with are the engineers that have come from the lower castes. The hardest ones to work with usually come from the higher castes.

The H1-B situation will resolve itself if the GE would force changes to the H1-B salary requirements (110% of equivalent salary is a good start).

Blogger tuberman April 18, 2018 12:37 PM  

Good article Vox, best explanation I've seen for your view, and backed up by Dot Idiot.

Need to start taxing, heavily, all money sent home by all foreigners, just for starters. Crack downs on all work visas too.

Need to also find out all the people who created those foreign tax havens and seize all their money, then treason trials, as obviously America For Sale. Everything to do with America For Sale, and all who took bribes from foreign elements should be hanged. Minor start, I know

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We can see What Dot Indians can do with what they have done for their own country in the last 70 years. Sh*thole with slavery, called caste.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 18, 2018 12:50 PM  

I have worked with Indians for many years now. The ones I have the best experience working with are the engineers that have come from the lower castes. The hardest ones to work with usually come from the higher castes.

@117 Chiva
Most Indian Christians are descendants of the lower castes.

OTOH, so are gypsies.

The H1-B situation will resolve itself if the GE would force changes to the H1-B salary requirements (110% of equivalent salary is a good start).

So far, in light of the do-nothing Senate, the Trump administration has resorted to slow-walking and bureaucracy. Even that has already made a huge difference considering H-1Bs are no longer being rubber-stamped and waved through.

OpenID bgkoranburner April 18, 2018 12:52 PM  

I don't see the hispanics for example actually bothering to fight. ... the whole mexican population of alabama disappeared. almost over night

They just took a 3 hour bus ride to another place they could leech off whites, when there is no option but stop being parasites they will resist more.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 18, 2018 12:53 PM  

They just took a 3 hour bus ride to another place they could leech off whites, when there is no option but stop being parasites they will resist more.

Similar things happen in Europe. The Netherlands and Denmark cracked down on their Zoomalis, such as by making it harder for them to bring in relatives or get welfare, and they simply moved to Britain and Sweden.

Blogger Desdichado April 18, 2018 1:01 PM  

@121: So what? Let Canada have them then. Trudeau can shed his effeminate tears over their plight.

Then Mexico can pay for a wall along the North too.

Blogger Akulkis April 18, 2018 1:04 PM  

On the other hand, Rush was second only to Micheal Savage in both understanding and supporting Trump. Limbaugh said he never supports anyone in the primaries, but his keen, correct assessment of why Trump was
beating the pants off the rest of the field WAS support, because he made supporting anyone else appear to be foolish.

Blogger Nate April 18, 2018 2:18 PM  

"They just took a 3 hour bus ride to another place they could leech off whites, when there is no option but stop being parasites they will resist more."

when it is easy... yes. but when it is not easy... they will go home. and as others have pointed out.. Canada is right there.

Blogger papabear April 18, 2018 2:29 PM  

"One thing about the Chinese is that their straightforwardness is I think more innately appealing to many whites, than the deceptive rhetoric of more verbally adept ethnies."

I don't see this. Maybe they are straightforward in their contempt when they really want to show it.

Blogger papabear April 18, 2018 2:31 PM  

Perhaps here they've lost their skills at preserving social harmonization so that it is merely about conflict avoidance. (Though some of them are still aware of the need for face-saving for others.) Here they are more beta (and even passive aggressive).

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 18, 2018 3:05 PM  

papabear wrote:"One thing about the Chinese is that their straightforwardness is I think more innately appealing to many whites, than the deceptive rhetoric of more verbally adept ethnies."

I don't see this. Maybe they are straightforward in their contempt when they really want to show it.


Most Chinese are smart enough not to poke the wolverine. Apu has proven that he is not.

Blogger Vlad Z. April 18, 2018 3:47 PM  

I tried and tried to parse this clause but ultimately failed: "the anti-nationalist Fake Right cartoon version of Obama voters and EU supporters portrayed as the Alt-Right by the media"

So, are you saying that Obama voters are portrayed as the Alt-Right by the media? The top few people I see portrayed as Alt-Right in the media are:

Richard Spencer
Vox Day
Steve Sailer
Brittany Pettibone

and previously:
Milo
Paul Joseph Watson
Mike Cernovich
Steve Bannon
Steven Miller

The first group aren't Obama voters or Globalists, and the second version includes some weirdo web personalities, but still not obvious globalists or Obama voters.

Can someone clarify or parse this sentence for me.

Blogger Desdichado April 18, 2018 3:53 PM  

The first group aren't Obama voters or Globalists,

There's your problem. Yes they are.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 18, 2018 4:12 PM  

Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin both say they voted for Obama. And both are Globalists. Nazism, like Trotskyism, is a Globalist philosophy, inherently.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 18, 2018 4:21 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Nazism, like Trotskyism, is a Globalist philosophy, inherently.

National socialism? Not saying you're wrong, just pointing out that the name points in another direction.

Nazism is surely Leftist, so I'd be shocked if Nazis didn't mostly vote 0bammy.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 18, 2018 4:41 PM  

Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin both say they voted for Obama. And both are Globalists. Nazism, like Trotskyism, is a Globalist philosophy, inherently.

@130 Snidely
I suppose it depends on the motive. Decapitating the cucks at the top of the Republican Party required that they lose to the Democrat and discredit themselves with the Republican base, so I suspect there were not more than a few proto-alt-righters who voted for Obama for strategic reasons. (Not saying Spencer and Anglin did, though.)

Those who voted for Hillary over Trump, though, all need their a*ses kicked.

Blogger Daniel April 18, 2018 4:43 PM  

>>Sherwood family: Sure we will. But first we are gonna take over "your" companies and make them "our" companies. Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Adobe, Apple, IBM...you name it, we dominate.

I say to Raghav, you can have all these dot phag companies. And take all the phony iphag phaux-Americans with you too. Take them all. They are inherently of little real value. Leave me Ford, Haas, Miller Welding,ect...... We will create and build anything we need.

Blogger FP April 18, 2018 4:45 PM  

"Anyway, I will say just one thing. Microsoft market cap when the company was "less Indian" in 2009: $138 billion. Microsoft market cap now that it is a company of Indians, in 2018, $738 billion."

Heh, market cap.

Yes, Rag bring up a company that is growing due to past performance and market dominance but not new stuff since 2012. But it figures you would bring up MS, given that they fired most of their QA team a couple of years ago. All the Win10 patch failures prove that quality sure is gonna keep MS on top. A company that settled lawsuits with customers who had win10 upgrades forced on them. Perhaps Nadella will finally push windows to subscription only or force the windows store on everyone again because that went so well the first time.

Blogger Robert What? April 18, 2018 4:52 PM  

I own a small software company and used to outsource some work to India. One thing I learned is that they (at least the ones I worked with) have no creativity: no ability to think outside the box.

OpenID Bob April 18, 2018 5:02 PM  

If they could have created a 1st world civilization, it would have happened by now. If they can maintain a 1st world civilization, it remains to be seen as they've never had the opportunity before. I am skeptical.

Blogger Vlad Z. April 18, 2018 5:14 PM  

VD: "And, if history is any sort of reasonable guide, somewhere between 50 and 150 million people will be killed in the grand war for the domination of the continent. If you were genuinely a smart Indian, you'd go back and avoid it. But you're not, so you won't."

Which continent? Europe or North America?

Blogger YIH April 18, 2018 6:08 PM  

"the nation of one"...
Do you know how ridiculous that sounds to Americans in particular? Several years ago in it's ad campaigns the US Army came up with the slogan ''An Army of One''. Both inside and outside the forces it quickly became a laughingstock, and was eventually quietly dropped and quickly forgotten.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 18, 2018 6:17 PM  

I'm only about half way into the comments here.

It's like watching a turd take umbrage after the punch bowl discovers it floating around.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 18, 2018 6:25 PM  

@67 Avalanche
you had ANY hand in it!!
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Patels hand is in his azz because street shitting with no TP

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 6:34 PM  

Which continent? Europe or North America?

Both. And that doesn't include the African die-off.

Blogger VD April 18, 2018 6:35 PM  

Can someone clarify or parse this sentence for me.

Spencer is an Obama voter who also supports the EU. He's not of the Right at all.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 18, 2018 7:26 PM  

Nazis believed in one world government, lead by the smartest, cleanest, most scientific, most woke, most orderly, most law-abiding, most dependable people on the planet, Germans.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 18, 2018 7:52 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Nazis believed in one world government, lead by the smartest, cleanest, most scientific, most woke, most orderly, most law-abiding, most dependable people on the planet, Germans.

Well, orderly and law-abiding I'll believe. Those are the sort of virtues that don't bear overdoing, and Germans overdo them.

Nazism is inherently globalist because the Third Reich intended to conquer the world. OK, I guess.

Blogger Daniel April 18, 2018 8:20 PM  

Why indians always use an emoticons or commit abuse of exlamation signs? Looks childish. Like this!!!! Really!!!!! They do it all the time :)

Blogger Dirk Manly April 19, 2018 12:11 AM  

@14

"LOL...I'd enjoy this more if I wasn't so busy. Didn't expect to be given so much attention. Understand this: there is no such thing as "our" or "your" companies. MS, Google, Apple, etc. are MNCs, they are as much American as they are European as they are Indian. Corporations are not beholden to any country or race. "


Who BUILT it?

Indians?

Of course not. You people don't have a single creative cell in your body

Blogger Dirk Manly April 19, 2018 12:19 AM  

@30

""Alexander kicked your ass"
This is exactly the sort of stupidity I see here. My ass will have to be more than 2000 years old for Alexander to kick it. Jeez, is this how you lot talk in real life as well? Get a brain."

You are the son of a people who have been defeated from the East, from the North, and from the West.... MULTIPLE TIMES.

And as for your supposed intelligence, how come your house in India still doesn't have indoor plumbing? Is
the concept of running water toilets, which was mastered
by the Romans, and even the naked, blue-clay wearing PICTS for crying out lout, too complex for you?

Or is it that you just like cleaning your rear end with your bare hand after taking a dump by the side of a very, very, busy road.

And consider this -- why is India the ONLY country outside of Africa which does practically nothing to manage fecal waste?

Blogger Dirk Manly April 19, 2018 12:25 AM  

@39

"Haha, arguing about semantics now? Clearly I'm dealing with an inferior bunch. What I meant was, what happened 2000 years ago, 1500 years ago or 500 years ago has no bearing on me. You don't become great even if your ancestor was Alexander and if your country beat mine in a way 3000 years ago, and vice versa. What matters is what you are now, who you are now. "

5000 years ago, indoor plumbing was invented in the Indus Valley... INDIA's BACKYARD

What matter is today... EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF AFRICA uses flush toilets.... except for India, because for you, knowledge and learning from the past don't matter.

Blogger Raghav Hegde April 20, 2018 9:51 AM  

"Who BUILT it?"

Did you build it Dirk "Manly"? Are you Bill Gates/Zuckerberg/Larry Page/etc. in disguise, sharing your wisdon on this idiot's blog?

Blogger Pale Male April 20, 2018 11:09 AM  

justaguy wrote:When analyzing Indian immigration, it is important to remember that India is severely segregated into castes and what caste we are discussing matters greatly.
Funny you should mention this.  The Derb's review of David Reich's book mentions that India is full of hundreds, maybe thousands of very small-population races which have been breeding endogamously for many centuries.  To the extent that this has also been breeding for clannishness (and consequent inability to integrate), Indians in general should be considered unfit for residence in the West.

The boastful commentary of our admitted corporate thief is just one example of why.

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