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Saturday, April 07, 2018

The end of the Jewish century

I suspect that this lawsuit, if successful, will spell the beginning of the end of the Jewish century in America:
A group that is suing Harvard University is demanding that it publicly release admissions data on hundreds of thousands of applicants, saying the records show a pattern of discrimination against Asian-Americans going back decades.

The group was able to view the documents through its lawsuit, which was filed in 2014 and challenges Harvard’s admissions policies. The plaintiffs said in a letter to the court last week that the documents were so compelling that there was no need for a trial, and that they would ask the judge to rule summarily in their favor based on the documents alone.

The plaintiffs also say that the public — which provides more than half a billion dollars a year in federal funding to Harvard — has a right to see the evidence that the judge will consider in her decision.

Harvard counters that the documents are tantamount to trade secrets, and that even in the unlikely event that the judge agrees to decide the case without a trial, she is likely to use only a fraction of the evidence in her decision. Only that portion, the university says, should be released.

“This is an important and closely watched civil rights case,” William S. Consovoy, the lawyer for the group, Students for Fair Admissions, said in his letter to the court. “The public has a right to know exactly what is going on at Harvard. Even if this were a commercial issue — as Harvard would like to portray it — the public would have a right to know if the product is defective or if a fraud is being perpetrated.”

At stake in the dispute is the secrecy of the university admissions process, especially at elite institutions like Harvard that are competing for a small pool of highly qualified students, and whether and how race and ethnicity play a role.

Students for Fair Admissions includes more than a dozen Asian-American students who applied to Harvard and were rejected. They contend in their lawsuit that Harvard systematically and unconstitutionally discriminates against Asian-American applicants by penalizing their high achievement as a group, while giving preferences to other racial and ethnic minorities. They say that Harvard’s admission process amounts to an illegal quota system.
U.S. Jews have perpetrated four self-serving myths that have contributed to their control of the intellectual high ground in the United States. One, Judeo-Christianity. Two, the historically nonsensical "nation of immigrants" narrative. Three, that they are unusually intelligent. And four, that their statistically improbable success in Hollywood, the media, and the financial sector is primarily a consequence of that superior intelligence.

Those myths have been severely eroded, but not exploded entirely yet. The primary reason that Harvard is so desperate to conceal the extent to which it has engaged in racial, ethnic, and religious favoritism is that it will a) reveal how far superior the Asian intellectual elite is to the Jewish intellectual elite, and, b) expose the extent to which Jewish admissions officers have compromised Ivy League admissions on behalf of their co-ethnics for the last five or six decades.

At a certain point, even those who are not particularly bright will eventually grasp the significance of the fact that the supposedly brilliant guys whose whip-smart intelligence is supposed to be the basis of their success reliably turn out to be the Sam Harrises and Ben Shapiros of the world, intellectual charlatans with elite degrees who are observably third-rate intellects at best.

A not-entirely-unrelated thought struck me when I was reading E.O. Wilson's The Meaning of Human Existence the other day. Although Wilson cites the way in which kinship selection has been disproven, it did strike me as a potentially useful basis for a model that mathematically quantifies the extent to which nepotism influences group outperformance, one which, in this particular application, would demonstrate the essential silliness of the myth that has snared even the likes of the eminent Jordan Peterson.

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103 Comments:

Blogger Stilicho April 07, 2018 8:14 AM  

Jews in America were given a free pass because Nazi Germany was the enemy of America. They used that free pass to prove that the Nazis' weren't always wrong.

Blogger Thad tuiol April 07, 2018 8:16 AM  

Shut your lying Goy mouths you filthy chinks!

Blogger Howard Stone April 07, 2018 8:18 AM  

Though often inciteful and entertaining, like Stefan, JB Peterson is wrong on Christianity. He subscribes to the supermyth, that people created myths to explain things. He’s basically an Hegelian. He’s afraid that the SJWs have done irreversible damage to his discipline, and he’s trying to do damage control.

Blogger Stilicho April 07, 2018 8:21 AM  

So-called jewish intellectualism can be summed up in a single phrase: the art of rationalizing your ethnic self-interest.

The growing divide between Israelis (with legitimate nationalist concerns) and the diasporans (with none) will be interesting to observe. Likely to hearken back to the Jewish/Samaritan divide. Will it ever escalate to the point of restricting the right of return? Seems inconceivable today, but tomorrow?

Blogger Ralph Hyatt April 07, 2018 8:22 AM  

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Blogger tz April 07, 2018 8:30 AM  

The bell curve is still part of it, but Jews are a tiny minority, so because there are so many more whites, there are many more white geniuses. Same thing with India, who is on average dumb, but with a billion people, the thin tails have a large number of people - and they are sending the best and brightest who are barely competitive. East Asians too.

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 07, 2018 8:36 AM  

I think there is something to the Talmudic cultural predisposition towards linguistic permutations. Enough experience with the "whip-smart" (that never stops being funny) in "elite" safe spaces to see the manipulative glibness is way more than a stereotype. No one was surprised at Derrida's background, and the Synagogue of Satan tag came from somewhere.

Glibness connotes intellect to the masses - note how many precocious Jewish children are promoted as brilliant from the jump for being well-spoken. The psy-op aspect of in-group preferencing starts early.

None of this refutes anything in the post. Just an observation on the mechanics of the process.

Blogger Iowahine April 07, 2018 8:40 AM  

I'm likely too short for this ride, but by "nepotism influences group outperformance," do you mean that selecting based on peer relationship may result in lowering the performance of the peer group because not all "kin" possess the optimal genes to maintain dominance status, thereby lowering the performance of the related group and enabling outperformance by an unrelated groups? To which group are you referring by "group outperformance?"

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 07, 2018 8:45 AM  

Even us lackwits are getting pretty fed up too.

Blogger Robert What? April 07, 2018 8:46 AM  

If Harvard and the other elite universities were completely unbiased in their selection process, would Asian Americans be, like, 80% of the student population?

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 07, 2018 8:50 AM  

@ 10. Robert What?

You'd see a lot. You'd also see a lot more anglo white guys, which as a group seem to produce more outliers for their average. I suspect the numbers would show (less) discrimination there too. But the Asians are of color which makes them a rhetorical rod from God.

Blogger Matrick April 07, 2018 8:53 AM  

The question is: do the Asians behind this lawsuit *know*? Or do they think this is whites keeping them out?

Blogger Rocklea Marina April 07, 2018 8:55 AM  

Is someone going to chime in now with virtues of meritocracy?

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 07, 2018 9:00 AM  

13. It's raycis.

Blogger Peaceful Poster April 07, 2018 9:01 AM  

This poll didn't go the way cuck Stephen Crowder thought it would:

https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/982051942691164160

Blogger Dirtnapninja April 07, 2018 9:02 AM  

Matrick wrote:The question is: do the Asians behind this lawsuit *know*? Or do they think this is whites keeping them out?

Privately, the young Asians *know*. Publically of course, its the fault of WASPs.

This isnt the end of the Jewish domination of course. But it does demonstrate that the Jewish Raj is showing signs of strain.

It will be delicious to see the Jewish overclass overthrown by their own ethnic Sepoys.

Blogger Paradox April 07, 2018 9:04 AM  

I hope you’re right because here in hillbilly town residents fly the Israeli flag on their porches.

Blogger Ransom Smith April 07, 2018 9:06 AM  

Greeting from your local accelerationist train service.
The train is moving on schedule.
That is all .

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This is something every American should care about .if the public money is going to universities, we deserve to know how much, to where, and how it's being used.

Blogger Johnny April 07, 2018 9:08 AM  

I forget the details of it, but so many years ago a member of the academic community did a study and found that papers done by Jews cite other Jews way more than would occurr by chance event or merit. Don't know, but I am suspicious that this discovery may have the beginning of the anti semitism that we now have in some colleges. People notice it when you do it to them. Other people, not so much.

>>more than half a billion dollars a year in federal funding...

Half a billion? Wow! With the exception of the affirmative action stuff they are all bloody rich people churning out other rich people. Plus the the college has a huge endowment fund.

Blogger Rocklea Marina April 07, 2018 9:09 AM  

Meritocracy- Belief in equal opportunity underpinning the religion of civic nationalism.

Blogger Looking Glass April 07, 2018 9:16 AM  

What they really don't want to come out is that the group actually most discriminated against is Males, mostly non-Jewish White & Asian, and specifically Christians as well. There's been enough publicly available information for people to note the trends.


@10 Robert What?

No. It'd be high, but if you removed self-selection effects (i.e. applying to a local university), it'd probably be 25-30%. The issue, which they could never admit, is that they'd need something like a 85-95% Male population. It's not just race but also sex that they have to radically discriminate against.

The sort of funny bit is that the Undergraduate education at the Ivies has been pretty bad for on 30 years. They get a chunk of the best students, but the actual education is pretty bad (with 1-2 possible exceptions). However, they have some of the best Graduate schools, in certain fields, around. The undergrad acts more like a directory for hiring for the State Department than it does for a quality education.

The result, unexpectedly, is that most of the best education programs exit far away from the biggest named schools. Which is probably why so much of the economy hasn't been destroyed: people actually still get an education if they go to one of a large collection of quality schools.

Blogger Zaklog the Great April 07, 2018 9:30 AM  

There is some evidence that Jordan Peterson is a little more skeptical about the intellectual and moral superiority of Jewish people. Although his final response was inconclusive, he also did not simply reject this question out of hand and rebuke the questioner, which he easily could have done.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6e8kl6

Blogger VFM #7634 April 07, 2018 9:31 AM  

"A group that is suing Harvard University is demanding that it publicly release admissions data on hundreds of thousands of applicants, saying the records show a pattern of discrimination against Asian-Americans going back decades."

And YT is doubly discriminated against -- firstly by affirmative action, secondly by Jews counting themselves as white and taking a lot of the slots that whites would otherwise have.

Blogger Samuel Nock April 07, 2018 9:32 AM  

Ron Unz’s landmark piece “The Myth of American Meritocracy” was the definitive study showing that Asians are discrimiated against. Well, that was the overt angle he took; a more subtle reading showed that he was saying that Jews had unfairly excluded Gentiles. This lawsuit will reveal the hard evidence of what Unz was saying years ago based on statistical data.

http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

Blogger Lazarus April 07, 2018 9:33 AM  

Open records bonus: Hussein registered as a foreign student.

Blogger tuberman April 07, 2018 9:38 AM  

It use to be that the Ivy League schools (pre-WWI) were a BS degree schools for rich brats, and they got their Grad students from usually top Liberal Arts Christian College graduates, as these were the best students on merit. Today they are corrupt throughout.

Time to take away the money of these "Ivy Schools" for their certain involvement in corruption such as the Muslim Brotherhood, Skull and Bones, and Cap and Gown, all parts of the NWO. Their money should be forfeit. Add to that the obvious prejudices against Whites and Asian males and the lawsuits should be endless.

There needs to be examples made of the so-called Ivy League Schools to get the rest in line to fire the Marxists, and hard-core feminists and their whole departments. All the money for these insane studies need to be cut completely off.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales April 07, 2018 9:38 AM  

@15

That link just loops back to this page.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 9:40 AM  

They didn't mention the most important part of the lawsuit. Asians paid black/brown Harvard students for copies of their academic records to start it off, including a vagina of color getting a free ride at Harvard Med with only a 20 MCAT score(below what any white/Asian would be rejected everywhere)

I'm likely too short for this ride, but by "nepotism influences group outperformance,"

It means 0% interest loans until people bankrupt(name change) or win at stock market are only handed out to tribe members!

more than half a billion dollars a year in federal funding

According to Vox's previously posted lifetime tax burdens that is the burden of 850 average Hispanics(including citizen 6 figure earning tokens)
https://gab.ai/BGKB/posts/23281318

Blogger pyrrhus April 07, 2018 9:44 AM  

Over representation of Jews at Harvard goes all the way back to the 1920s, when it was close to 25% of the class, due to the influence of the monied elites in New York and Boston. But Harvard merged with Radcliffe in the '70s and began accepting women, along with larger groups of unqualified token minorities. That created a huge double whammy against Asian and White males, and to a lesser extent females, who essentially were left with whatever spots were left after all the preferred minorities got theirs......

Blogger pyrrhus April 07, 2018 9:47 AM  

@28 Yes, ironically, it was Asians who brought the suit, when it has always been White kids who have been most discriminated against.

Blogger saintCrispee April 07, 2018 9:55 AM  

The basis of Jewish success in the industries of banking, commerce, education and similar industries is the destruction of the Temple in 70, the destruction of an elite leadership, the dispersion of Jewish leadership to a wide ranging community of rabbis and, importantly, the evolution of Judaism into a religion that required learning and that the father educate the son.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 07, 2018 9:59 AM  

@31

Don't be naive

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 10:01 AM  

Yes, ironically, it was Asians who brought the suit, when it has always been White kids who have been most discriminated against.

The condition of third-class citizenship is exactly this. No right of assembly, no right to redress of grievances.

Blogger Crew April 07, 2018 10:09 AM  

Although Wilson cites the way in which kinship selection has been disproven

Did you mean group selection?

Blogger Mister Excitement April 07, 2018 10:09 AM  

I can already hear the screams of the Boomer Conservatives.

Then they'll stop when they realize that it's another minority group going after the Jews.

If there's something that Conservatives love more than war, it's minorities.

I think they'll eventually find a way to side with the Jews.

Boomer Conservatives have an extreme fetish for Israel and the Jews. It's like a crack addiction.

A few months ago, the week before Christmas, there was a poster on Free Republic that said he was grateful that Jesus spent his life spreading the Jewish religion throughout the world.

Not kidding.

Another poster, a Christian, said that he's a Christian, but most of his heroes are Jews.

So on a message board thread about Christmas, a few days before Christmas, the topic of discussion was JEWS.

Bye Conservatism. You won't hear from me again unless it's to mock and ridicule.

Blogger SciVo April 07, 2018 10:10 AM  

Iowahine wrote:I'm likely too short for this ride, but by "nepotism influences group outperformance," do you mean that selecting based on peer relationship may result in lowering the performance of the peer group because not all "kin" possess the optimal genes to maintain dominance status, thereby lowering the performance of the related group and enabling outperformance by an unrelated groups? To which group are you referring by "group outperformance?"

No. Jews. They statistically outperform on many metrics -- more Jews than you would expect (by percentage of the population) at the top of society by income, by wealth, by educational attainment, by membership in the credentialed white-collar professions, even by Nobel prizes. And if you ask a Jew, he will say it's just because they're smarter, and the haters are just jealous of how much better Jews are at everything than everyone else.

However, it is easy to observe that like basically everyone except Native Europeans, they practice a kind of tribal nepotism. (A law firm of Rosenberg, Rosenberg, Rosenberg & Rosenberg doesn't get that way because a Rosenberg was simply the most qualified applicant in each case.) I believe that if Native Europeans exercised even just half as much in-group preference as everyone else does, we would utterly crush all competitors and completely dominate all aspects of society.

Blogger Crew April 07, 2018 10:15 AM  

Did you mean group selection?

Hmmm, maybe not. Based on this blog posting it would seem that Wilson is still strongly in the group selection camp.

http://helian.net/blog/2013/03/04/evolution/e-o-wilson-vs-jerry-coyne-the-group-selection-wars-continue/

Blogger SciVo April 07, 2018 10:16 AM  

Johnny wrote:Half a billion? Wow! With the exception of the affirmative action stuff they are all bloody rich people churning out other rich people. Plus the the college has a huge endowment fund.

That probably includes the public subsidy of the tax break on their endowment, which is frankly unjustified in light of how elite universities have tended to become hedge funds that happen to have a school attached -- they end up getting more of a public subsidy than public schools do, by a longshot. Which is why the recent tax reform started taxing the wealthiest schools a little (a good start but that's all).

Blogger Cecil Henry April 07, 2018 10:17 AM  

The purported Jewish intelligence, true or not, is irrelevant and only obfuscates the issue.

Being smarter does not excuse working against the interests of others, destroying societies, lying, unethical behavior, using double standards of ethics to exploit others, and controlling other people's lives.

If 'higher IQ' justifies this, then so does the opposition Jews have received in the past, as they both follow logically and ethically from this mentality.



And the people of (((love))) are at it again:

Israel meddling in US elections is kosher. Russia's is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqhi16iikxk

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaHFUH_UQAEZtzQ.jpg

Blogger Orthodox April 07, 2018 10:19 AM  

Once the Asians get the info out, it will then be easier for white Christians to file lawsuits. The Asian discrimination is more visible because Asians don't look like Jews. They do hate Asians more though, because if they solely went by grades, Harvard would become a Chinatown and then whites wouldn't avoid it, and it would become another MIT or accounting college.

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 07, 2018 10:21 AM  

36. The old Bugs Bunny lawfirm joke: Dewey, Cheatam, and Howe.

Blogger Brick Hardslab April 07, 2018 10:32 AM  

Orientals cheat like their lives depend on it. So I wouldn't be too sure they would be top of the heap given a level playing field. I'm not saying they wouldn't either but it wouldn't surprise me either way.

Blogger Chase April 07, 2018 10:36 AM  

This suit is so absurd. That White people are discriminated against (in the country built by and for them) isn’t up for debate: it is literally the policy. And yet it has to be Asians suing. This dam cannot break fast enough.

Blogger Miguel April 07, 2018 10:37 AM  

A churchianite debated me and said that jews are sucessfull because they are snart. I told him that north-Asians are snarter but not as sucessfull. Why, I asked.

No answer. Just name calling and such.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 10:40 AM  

Yes, ironically, it was Asians who brought the suit

The funny thing was the Asians straight up paid cash to black/brown students to get the individual info to start the lawsuit.

The old Bugs Bunny lawfirm joke: Dewey, Cheatam, and Howe.

"Subprime Mortgage" is a flaming Jew tranny who changed his name to "Non-QM".
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/04/no_author/subprime-mortgages-on-fire-again/

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 07, 2018 10:51 AM  

21. Looking Glass

"The sort of funny bit is that the Undergraduate education at the Ivies has been pretty bad for on 30 years. They get a chunk of the best students, but the actual education is pretty bad (with 1-2 possible exceptions)."

At first this just seems wasted potential - set up stringent entrance requirements then piss four years away with them. The "the hardest thing is getting in" meets "finishing school for the elite" combo, basically.

It is actually more devious, in that it creates an illusory carrot of excellence to ensure a steady stream of high-performing, anti-Western aspiring cosmopolitans to further the narrative.

I agree with you - if they actually did screen on the bases they claim, using the old SAT/IQ correlation as a rough estimate, they would be overwhelmingly white and Asian male. They could also be extremely rigorous. They would actually be worthwhile places in small numbers. Most people without direct experience would be astonished at the lack of intellectual life outside the classroom on the elite campuses.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 10:56 AM  

"I think there is something to the Talmudic cultural predisposition towards linguistic permutations."

When you consider that the Talmud itself is a scholarly attempt to weasel around and/or pervert the actual Bible...

"Did you mean group selection?"

As far as I can tell, when Wilson says "kinship selection" he means "kinship selection as the main/sole means of evolutionary selection". He rejects it on those grounds, anyway. He's of the opinion that both individual and group selection play their roles -- a sane stance, until you figure out that he's an anti-Christian atheist/humanist with the associated Marxist leanings.

"because if they solely went by grades, Harvard would become a Chinatown and then whites wouldn't avoid it"

Not exactly. It would be mostly white (not accounting for foreign students), with chinese being the largest minority. Jews would be somewhere near the bottom, well behind indians who would probably be third place. Hispanic would be rare and it'd be a bucket-list item to see a black at all, let alone a black female, which might not even exist in the system at any given time.

"Orientals cheat like their lives depend on it. So I wouldn't be too sure they would be top of the heap given a level playing field."

Chinese do for sure. Japanese, not so much. I can't speak for any of the others.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 07, 2018 11:02 AM  

The Chinese and Japanese both have "face"-keeping as a value, but the Chinese don't seem to have "honor" as a value, whereas the Japanese do.

Honor precludes cheating.

Blogger Bogey April 07, 2018 11:11 AM  

@47 or VD

Is E. O. Wilson trying to find a meaning of life from the point of view of a secularists?

As a Christian this question doesn't really cause me much bewilderment.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:19 AM  

"Is E. O. Wilson trying to find a meaning of life from the point of view of a secularists?"

Might as well just ask if he's an atheist involved in their conception of evolutionary research.

The answers are yes.

Barring any outside Deity, the only logical sources of outside authority are in either forgotten history, or power. Being nerds, sheer power (of any non-intellectual variety) doesn't typically appeal. Even if it did, something that you can interpret according to your desires -- or fabricate wholesale if worst comes -- is quite desirable from the standpoint of self-righteous justification.

Blogger James Dixon April 07, 2018 11:30 AM  

> The old Bugs Bunny lawfirm joke: Dewey, Cheatam, and Howe.

I thought the Three Stooges version was the original. I'm open to correction.

> The Chinese and Japanese both have "face"-keeping as a value, but the Chinese don't seem to have "honor" as a value, whereas the Japanese do.

From a strictly outside observer perspective, this does seem to be the case.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 07, 2018 11:37 AM  

Good luck getting the Chinese feeling guilty about muh 6 trillion trillion billion. They killed dozens of millions of their own without batting an eye.

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 07, 2018 11:44 AM  

51. You may be right on it being 3 stooges. Not concerned enough to check.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 11:45 AM  

James Dixon wrote:I thought the Three Stooges version was the original. I'm open to correction.

It was probably a vaudeville staple. Most of the good old jokes were worn in on the vaudeville circuit.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 07, 2018 11:47 AM  

"They killed dozens of millions of their own without batting an eye."

Somewhere on the order of 20-40 times as many of their own, yes.

Blogger Jack Amok April 07, 2018 11:49 AM  

The anit-hanites at Harvard must be exposed! The anti-hanism of Harvard must be opposed!

Jews, meet the Han, your smarter, even more nepotistic, more fecund, selves.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 12:05 PM  

Stilicho wrote:

The growing divide between Israelis (with legitimate nationalist concerns) and the diasporans (with none) will be interesting to observe. Likely to hearken back to the Jewish/Samaritan divide. Will it ever escalate to the point of restricting the right of return? Seems inconceivable today, but tomorrow?


Funny you should mention this. Just the other day, Unz's site reported on more cracks in the Talmudic wall of solidarity. Anonymous Conservative also had an interesting post on how Jews are starting to seen by other leftists in a less than adoring way. With the increasing numbers of foot soldiers coming from the turd world, look to see repeat performances of what happened last year in Minnesota.

Blogger jandolin April 07, 2018 12:07 PM  

The jewish century in the United States is the tale of jews infiltrating and subverting WASP institutions like Harvard and Yale. This lawsuit could be the harbinger of the Han century.

Blogger Crew April 07, 2018 12:12 PM  

@Vox: I dunno where you find the time to read so much!

Blogger Nathan April 07, 2018 12:18 PM  

This is all wishful thinking. The supreme court already decided that colleges are allowed to use whatever racial preferences suit them:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN0Z91N3

And don't think that if they reverse course now that they won't find some way to keep white kids in flyover country on the shortest end of the admissions stick.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 12:20 PM  

Mister Excitement wrote:
I can already hear the screams of the Boomer Conservatives.

Then they'll stop when they realize that it's another minority group going after the Jews.

If there's something that Conservatives love more than war, it's minorities.

I think they'll eventually find a way to side with the Jews.

Boomer Conservatives have an extreme fetish for Israel and the Jews. It's like a crack addiction.

A few months ago, the week before Christmas, there was a poster on Free Republic that said he was grateful that Jesus spent his life spreading the Jewish religion throughout the world.

Not kidding.

Another poster, a Christian, said that he's a Christian, but most of his heroes are Jews.

So on a message board thread about Christmas, a few days before Christmas, the topic of discussion was JEWS.

Bye Conservatism. You won't hear from me again unless it's to mock and ridicule.


You need to stay away from Rim-Job's hopium den. I'm proud to say I was expelled from there more than a decade ago for insulting the famous Islamic theologian Imam al-Duhbya, the Mahdi of West Texas. He's widely admired by churchians even to this day. Especially the kind who read the Book of Scofield and follow "Apostles" like the near-billionaire Kenneth Copeland.

Blogger Truth teller April 07, 2018 12:30 PM  

"U.S. Jews have perpetrated four self-serving myths that have contributed to their control of the intellectual high ground in the United States."

Vox you forgot #5, Mad verbal skillz, mad, mad verbal skillz.


Blogger Le Regardeur April 07, 2018 12:47 PM  

As a data point in this debate, what is interesting is that in the U.K. or, to be more specific, England, the position/status of Jewish people in education and institutions has declined over the past 30-40 years.

The 1950s and 60s were the golden age of Jewish presence in academia in England. A pre-WWII and post-WWII influx of Jewish academics and scientists from continental Europe filled a large number of new universities that were being established. The traditional Jewish banking houses in the City still thrived.

Now though the business establishment and academia in the U.K. are much less Jewish than in say the 1980s, although the Jewish population itself hasn't declined significantly. There remains however massive Jewish overrepresentation in the print and broadcast media.

It's also interesting that the two 20 or so U.K. universities are split very much between universities that are socially upper middle class English and those that are Jewish.

Bristol, Durham, Exeter and Newcastle are the destinations of choice for those from fee-charging schools who don't get into Oxford or Cambridge.

Birmingham, Nottingham, Leeds and Manchester are the destinations for Jewish students.

The Jewish takeover of WASP institutions in the U.S. has no parallel in the U.K.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 1:00 PM  

Rabbi B writes (http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/06/mailvox-nationalism-and-church.html):

"The Roosh's of this world, like all of us, will have to give an account for what we did with the life we were given, and be judged accordingly."

Had I known how my life and this world would be (full of suffering and misery), had I known that I could end in hell for eternity, I would _not_ have chosen to exist. Most wouldn't. This world can only continue to exist because people can't be asked if they want to come into existence. They are forced into it. The cause is lust, sin.

Also reeks of salvation by works. As Gómez Dávila wrote:

"God does not want our cooperation, but our humility."

Even Christians acknowledge that if the Bible taught suicide was no sin, suicides would certainly increase:

https://bibleresources.org/suicide/
"The Bible is silent on this issue. God probably did not address it in black and white for a good reason. If we knew that we would still go to Heaven if we killed ourselves, there would probably be a lot more suicides taking place than there already are."

If people knew what's in store for them, most would not choose to be born. The Bible itself teaches that this world is wicked and evil (1 John 5:19; Galatians 1:4), it's a vale of tears (Psalm 84:6); dying is my gain as Paul writes (Philippians 1:21). Matthew 26:24 teaches it is better to never have been born than to end up in hell. In the OT we have Elijah who wants to die; Jeremiah curses his birth; as does Job, similar thoughts in Ecclesiastes.

OT prophets were not aware of Christ; he makes suffering bearable. But it's still suffering. And 'once saved, always saved' is not a 100% certainty. How, then, can I bring someone into this world?

I'd simply preferred Christians, of all people, to at least acknowledge the dire situation we are in. That for most life is not a "gift", and the idea to be judged for it is counter-intuitive. It's paganism to call life (bios) a gift (cf. Kierkegaard: The Moment No. VII). The Bible nowehere teaches it: the gift is grace and the Holy Ghost. For something to be a gift you need a receiver, and life can't be received, the Holy Ghost can. Bios not being the highest value for the Christian is a view accepted by Cardinal Martini as well.

It's at least dishonest to teach life a "good", a "gift", and all those lies; that God loves you (and doesn't want you to die off in this life already), that it "makes sense" (which the Bible does not teach either; Vox Day is at least honest enough to acknowledge [citing Job 36:26;Cor. 13:12]).

It is certainly counter-intuitive and makes little sense to be judged for a life you did not ask for.

PS: I am a Christian, having been born again in Christ six months ago. Being Christian basically means you still suffer, but not from meaninglessness any longer, and suicide is not an option anymore either; I now have to accept the fact that I have to suffer through this life that I did not ask for, and in which I see little value.

As Kierkegaard wrote: _one_ merit in my favor I do have: to not have brought someone into existence. There are surely too many people already, and yet what most people are occupied with is -- to marry and beget children.

Indeed: I will not pass this life on. That there were great Christians who suffered from melancholy is known: Pascal, Kierkegaard, Guanini. As I said, I want Christians at least to acknolwedge the utter misery of our condition. As Don Colacho wrote:

"The imbecile does not discover the radical misery of our condition except when he is sick, poor, or old."
"Let us not complain of the soil in which we were born, but rather of the plant we are."
"Our last hope lies in the injustice of God."

Blogger APL April 07, 2018 1:41 PM  

"reliably turn out to be the Sam Harrises and Ben Shapiros of the world,"

I don't much care for Sam Harris, but boy, that was straight to the heart.

Blogger James Dixon April 07, 2018 1:43 PM  

> The supreme court already decided that colleges are allowed to use whatever racial preferences suit them:

Unless one starts preferring whites, then watch the rules change.

Blogger tublecane April 07, 2018 1:54 PM  

Another way the past was superior. Back when the Ivies preferred the sons of the WASP ruling class and their gentlemen's C's, at least it was in their own country. And they weren't all degenerates. So there was a civilizational argument to be made. You know, continuity of rulership.

Jews, how long did they even last as keepers of the flame in their own minds. Okay, academia is finally a meritocracy--whatever that means--when? The 50s? Then in the 60s the inmates take over the asylum. First by force, then by Long March. Some Jews keep moving left, but a significant portion stay where they are and become neocons. Then they spend the rest of their lives complaining about what a hellhole academia is.

Did they manage to last a generation?

Granted, I still blame WASPs for releasing the whip hand.

Blogger S'mon April 07, 2018 2:19 PM  

"Three, that they are unusually intelligent."

They are pretty bright - BUT I live in London and it's obvious that Jews are not smarter on average than upper middle class WASPS - indeed here in London the two are not always easy to distinguish. The total domination of Jews over WASPS in the USA, despite much greater WASP numbers, clearly has other causes.

Blogger Johnny April 07, 2018 2:26 PM  

>>Although Wilson cites the way in which kinship selection has been disproven

The problem with this stuff is that it is circumstance revelant. If you are a member of a tribe of closely related people it probably is kinship selection. Get drafted into the army of a large nation state, not so much.

Same thing with the nature vs nurture argument. Treat everybody the same and it is nature that makes for different performance. Have a favored minority, and it is nurture. Societies tend to want one or the other and attempt to force the outcome to conform with the desired rational.

Blogger Johnny April 07, 2018 2:27 PM  

My take on the elite universities is that they are elitist universities, and this is unavoidable. Whatever benefit there is to sorting out the smartest, doing so carries the social cost of a class based society run for and by the upper class. Not worth it.

Blogger S'mon April 07, 2018 2:33 PM  

@58 "This lawsuit could be the harbinger of the Han century."

I for one welcome our new Chinese Overlords.

Blogger S'mon April 07, 2018 2:43 PM  

@63 "The Jewish takeover of WASP institutions in the U.S. has no parallel in the U.K."

Yes - and from what I can tell even in the USA the takeover only really dates from the Clinton years. Under Bush I, James Baker could say "Fuck the Jews - they don't vote for us anyway!" What US politician could say that now?

Partly perhaps it's numbers, a critical mass of Jews in New York, the US financial centre, vs smaller numbers in London, the British equivalent. Partly that in Britain arriving Ashkenazi integrated into an existing Sephardic Jewish culture that is less aggressive than US/NY Ashkenazi culture.

I've noticed that English WASPS don't have an inferiority cringe around British Jews, the way all US whites do around US Jews. I'm not sure whether this is cause or effect though - if a US WASP cowers before a US Ashkenazi, this may be the cowering of a whipped cur. When a British WASP looks a British Jew in the eye, or possibly with mild contempt (the English upper middle class are traditionally mildly anti-Semitic, though this may have changed) this is likely because he's not been beaten down yet.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 2:44 PM  

S'mon wrote:I for one welcome our new Chinese Overlords.
Say it right:

我歡迎我們新的中國霸主。 新的中國霸主,你好嗎?

Ain't machine translation wonderful?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 2:46 PM  

S'mon wrote:Under Bush I, James Baker could say "Fuck the Jews - they don't vote for us anyway!" What US politician could say that now?

Trump. Every GOPe politician ever. They aren't going to vote (R), no matter what. Rile them to your heart's content.

Blogger Dave April 07, 2018 2:50 PM  

Mods: please remove auto-shadowbanning off-topic Anon posted comment. For some strange reason mobile users are subject to this drivel while desktop users are spared.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 3:08 PM  

"If there's something that Conservatives love more than war, it's minorities."

I think the word "conservative" has about outlived its usefulness. It is much like "alt-right". What the hell is that? Or "libertarian". What the hell brand are we talking about?

Sometime in my teens I discovered I was far to the right on the political scale, but I do not know what that means in terms of labels. I do know that over the decades I have listened to "leaders" who claimed to be "conservative" or right-wingers and thought they were imposters or just damn stupid.

We need a numerical scale. People take a test and get a number between 0 and 10 on the "Vox Day 16 points" scale. Now that would be something.

Blogger Johnny April 07, 2018 3:15 PM  

>>James Dixon wrote: I thought the Three Stooges version was the original. I'm open to correction.

The three stooges routine was taken from a vaudeville act. As best I can recall was a professor who had three "stooge" helpers.

Blogger Akulkis April 07, 2018 3:22 PM  

Most of the Thtee Stooges shorts were vaudevilleve routines put to film.

Blogger Ahärôwn April 07, 2018 3:26 PM  

S'mon wrote:@63 "The Jewish takeover of WASP institutions in the U.S. has no parallel in the U.K."

Yes - and from what I can tell even in the USA the takeover only really dates from the Clinton years. Under Bush I, James Baker could say "Fuck the Jews - they don't vote for us anyway!" What US politician could say that now?

Partly perhaps it's numbers, a critical mass of Jews in New York, the US financial centre, vs smaller numbers in London, the British equivalent. Partly that in Britain arriving Ashkenazi integrated into an existing Sephardic Jewish culture that is less aggressive than US/NY Ashkenazi culture.

I've noticed that English WASPS don't have an inferiority cringe around British Jews, the way all US whites do around US Jews. I'm not sure whether this is cause or effect though - if a US WASP cowers before a US Ashkenazi, this may be the cowering of a whipped cur. When a British WASP looks a British Jew in the eye, or possibly with mild contempt (the English upper middle class are traditionally mildly anti-Semitic, though this may have changed) this is likely because he's not been beaten down yet.


Interesting to hear, S'mon, and a situation that is similar here in Canada, minus the mild antisemitism (that's found much more in Quebec).

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 3:38 PM  

markstoval wrote:We need a numerical scale. People take a test and get a number between 0 and 10 on the "Vox Day 16 points" scale. Now that would be something.

Make it a number between 0 and 16.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd April 07, 2018 3:57 PM  

It's like the difference between GE and Obama.
Trump is many times smarter, but he has the matter of fact delivery of a General at war. Or a detective talking about a case.
Obama talks like he's reading a GRE essay.
Some people get taken it by it, but I'm guessing the president's I.Q. Is 15-20 points higher than Obama's.

Blogger Mister Excitement April 07, 2018 4:06 PM  

@61

I got banned from there last year, so now all I do is lurk and witness the Boomer Conservative delusion.

I was thinking of starting a new account to troll there, but just haven't bothered yet.

Blogger jandolin April 07, 2018 5:06 PM  

"I've noticed that English WASPS don't have an inferiority cringe around British Jews, the way all US whites do around US Jews. "

Jeremy Corbyn could never have a political career in the United States.

Blogger S'mon April 07, 2018 6:18 PM  

@73 : "Trump. Every GOPe politician ever. They aren't going to vote (R), no matter what. Rile them to your heart's content."

You think Trump could have been elected without courting Jewish support? Surely not. He didn't need Jewish votes, unusually he didn't need Jewish money, but he did need Jewish political cover. If he had been seen by all the Jewish elites as anti-Semitic he wouldn't have been electable. So he courted the most Israeli nationalist and least anti-American element in the elites, which worked well for him.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 6:28 PM  

S'mon wrote:If he had been seen by all the Jewish elites as anti-Semitic he wouldn't have been electable.

Maybe so. I suspect he was more worried about the Cucks than the Jews. Cucks were concerned enough without him badmouthing the Jews.

Many Jews are pragmatic: they're going to do what's good for them. Cucks are going to suicide, and try to take you with them.

Jews who find MAGA to be good for them are no problem for Americans.

Blogger Oznoto Ignoto April 07, 2018 7:00 PM  

@VD
I'm hoping one day that you will have a conversation of record with Dr Jordan Peterson.
I think you both might learn something from it, and so might we. Please make it happen.
Thank you.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 07, 2018 8:26 PM  

The total domination of Jews over WASPS in the USA, despite much greater WASP numbers, clearly has other causes.
The achieved it through their alliance of convenience with Irish Americans. The Irish in general hated and envied the WASP establishment. Still do, for that matter, far more than Jews ever did. They used Jews to break down the walls keeping them out, and used their entry to destroy the old ruling class.
C. F. Joe Kennedy.

Blogger Le Regardeur April 07, 2018 8:48 PM  

Probably France is the best comparison with the U.S. in terms of Jewish influence. Large number of Jewish people as public intellectuals and in the liberal professions (law, medicine, etc.).

University entry in the U.K. is more or less blind, i.e. admission is based on grades in national exams with little discretion on the part of the universities themselves. Oxford and Cambridge have interviews but there the interviewers and decision-makers are professors, not bureaucrats.

Blogger Beau April 07, 2018 8:59 PM  

我歡迎我們新的中國霸主。 新的中國霸主,你好嗎?

绝对的!

Blogger tz April 07, 2018 11:33 PM  

For a 5th Myth, the Holocaust, while I don't dispute something happened in Nazi Germany, it was more than just Jews, and it should be put into perspective with the Holodomor, the Armenian Genocide, Dresden, Hiroshima, Pohl Pot, and others.

Note how we probably have more Holocaust memorials and museums here in the USA than they have in Europe.

This is the equivalent of Blacks bringing up slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow when you point out things like out of wedlock births might be a negative.

Also see the NR purges - who was purged? Buchanan, Sobran, Derbyshire...

Blogger Eric Steiger April 08, 2018 12:50 AM  

@84 How does the massive Jewish influence in the "Invade the world, invite the world" strategy that is dumping millions of people into the west who are, at best, immune to Holocostianity guilt, and often openly hateful of Jews square with Jewish pragmatism?
It's looking more and more like such blind resentment towards gentiles that they are willing to pursue a PYrric victory to its ultimate end, consequences be damned.

Blogger tublecane April 08, 2018 1:18 AM  

@83- Of course, Jews went on to pretend Trump is anti-semitic. Maybe not on the elite level, but on the level the general public sees. You know, "anti-semitic hate crimes rise 4,000% under Trump" stuff.

They're posing. If they really believed it, they'd be screaming bloody murder like the idiots in pink hats on inauguration day

Blogger tublecane April 08, 2018 1:24 AM  

@88-There is an interesting book by John Murray Cuddihy, whom I can safely assume is Irish, on the Jews called the Ordeal of Civility. He describes Jews and the Irish alike as "latecomers to modernity."

He also has it that Jews tried to use blacks the same way you describe the Irish using Jews. It was a no-go intellectually, because establishing a black intellectual class is like banging your head against a brick wall. But I suppose it was successful, in the sense that nobodies like Tennessee Coates currently take up space in the world of letters.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 08, 2018 1:27 AM  

Eric Steiger wrote:How does the massive Jewish influence in the "Invade the world, invite the world" strategy ... square with Jewish pragmatism?

Not all Jews are pragmatic, obviously. Of the ones who are, obviously many are stupidly short sighted.

In @84, my point was that Trump had to get in good with the subset of powerful Jews who are pragmatic enough to get on board with MAGA, and maybe some of the stupidly short-sighted set. The others were never going to get on the Trump Train anyway.

Jews who are willing to support MAGA may be few and far between, but for now at least they aren't working to destroy America.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz April 08, 2018 2:37 AM  

Hitler (and Lenin and Mao and ...) were created by the Wall Street.
Mel Gibson was right.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz April 08, 2018 2:40 AM  

He seems to be a Ben Shapiro of the higher level. Sad, took me some time to recognise this.

Blogger S'mon April 08, 2018 4:22 AM  

@84 "Maybe so. I suspect he was more worried about the Cucks than the Jews. Cucks were concerned enough without him badmouthing the Jews."

Yes, Trump needed some elite Jewish support to give highly pro-Israel MAGA-pedes psychological 'permission' to vote for him. And realistically Trump actually is more pro-Israel than Obama was & the Democrats are, so for the minority of least anti-American & most Israeli-nationalist Jewish voters, it makes sense to support him. But the main thing of course is that the bulk of white non-Jewish US Republicans won't vote for an even slightly anti-Jewish OR anti-Israel candidate.

BTW re Jeremy Corbyn here in Britain, I don't think he actually does have any anti-Jewish animosity (I think former London mayor Ken Livingstone actually did have a bit); he's just very anti-Israel, and of course he is allied with actually-anti-Semitic Muslim Labour MPs. A lot of the accusations of anti-Semitism against Corbyn & co seem highly exaggerated by the right-wing papers & the Blairites as a club to beat the Far Left now that it controls the Labour party. And even though Corbyn is very anti-Israel, he's equally anti-Britain, which in a sane country would be a more immediate consideration.

Blogger MickDundee April 08, 2018 12:28 PM  

The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

Blogger tublecane April 08, 2018 2:00 PM  

@96- They are Rumpelstiltskin.

Blogger Jordan179 April 10, 2018 1:41 AM  

Exactly.

Blogger Jordan179 April 10, 2018 1:45 AM  

Note: all ANGLO names.

Blogger Jordan179 April 10, 2018 1:50 AM  

Actually, Japanese and Koreans ARE successful.

Blogger Jordan179 April 10, 2018 1:53 AM  

This is actually NOT an argument in favor of Chinese intellectual superiority. Ruthlessness and intelligence are not identical.

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