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Sunday, April 08, 2018

Sun Tzu and the fifth conquest of America

Asians in the United States are quite consciously following the example of their Jewish predecessors in remaking the culture to their preference.
Yet another parallel for the campaign to police microaggressions may be the ACLU’s long campaign to oust Christian observance from the public square, which used the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to restrict the expression of the vast majority of the country in deference to the sensitivities of a tiny minority. The minority told the majority that they weren’t allowed to do things that they had long been habituated to doing, and which they regarded as a core part of their own identity and faith. The impetus for this legal campaign, whose reasoning was judged to be sound by the Supreme Court, was of course not purely formalistic or doctrinal. It emerged from out of the status politics of everyday life—an exercise of power by a rising minority, namely Jews, to remove practices that made (some of them) feel like aliens in their own land.

The curbing of open religious displays in American public spaces was a symbolic concession to the equal dignity of the Jews sought by a faction of a group no longer content to occupy a marginal place in the life of the country. In turn, the success of the campaign helped incite the emergence in the 1970s of the Christian right, which helped bring Ronald Reagan to power, beginning a series of conservative political victories won on the basis of culture war issues that in the end proved powerless to prevent the eventual triumph of secular, liberal values, no matter how many statehouses or branches of the federal government Republicans control.

Both the movement against religious displays and the current campaign against microaggressions were attempts by minorities to restrict the freedom of expression of majorities. Both assailed unspoken but strongly held premises: In the case of the ACLU campaign, that America was a Christian nation, and in the microaggression campaign, that America is a white nation. Both were bold incursions on the liberty of the majority of the country....

America has ceased to be a white nation. It has to make concessions to the hunger for recognition of various nonwhite groups, including Asians. It has to figure out a way to do so in a manner that will preserve the integrity of its institutions, which have managed to accommodate diversity chiefly by hewing to the core insight that only the individual deserves protection. We have some latitude to take measures that push against the margins of this guideline in deference to past injustices and continuing disparities. But the one approach that definitely will not work is declaring all white people to be irremediably tainted by racism at the level of the unconscious and all nonwhite people to be fragile to the point of inanition at the touch of slights that appear banal and trivial. The primary debility of this model of human personality is that it is false. From this debility flows a cascade of interventions that have the potential to shatter our social compact.
What social compact? What integrity of which institutions? Translation: America is no longer Christian, nor white, nor a nation, so shut up and accept it, white people. Consider yourself fortunate that it appears the Asians plan to handle their ascendance to power in the multinational empire of North America in a more polite and judicious manner than the Jews have.

At least the Indians fought their conquerors. Your descendants won't even have the satisfaction of knowing that. In 100 years, it is quite likely that the white Christian America the Baby Boomers took for granted will be as little remembered as Indian country and Spanish Florida. The invasion and conquest of America will one day be seen as the ultimate example of victory through asymmetric warfare.

After all, did not Sun Tzu say that the supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting?

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129 Comments:

Blogger AdognamedOp April 08, 2018 5:53 AM  

Come on bro, you recognize the power of the cross. You know it's level of revival, across the spectrum. You've written about it! Stop with the fatalism already. We're not taking our ball home just yet.

Blogger Miguel April 08, 2018 6:00 AM  

With 60,000,000 babies murdered in the last 45 years, dont count on the Lord Jesus to help you

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 6:04 AM  

We're still the ones who are both heavily armed, and who can hit something with a firearm beyond 5 yards -- because we use the sights!

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 6:09 AM  

We're not taking our ball home just yet.

First, the revival appears to be taking place elsewhere. Second, you're not taking the ball anywhere. You're not doing anything. Nor does it appear that any American will even think about doing anything until it is far too late.

At least the Europeans grasp that they are under attack and refuse to claim that their attackers are "nice people and real Europeans, just as European as you or me." I've literally never heard a single European ever say anything like that, not even a Swede.

And I've seldom heard anything else from Americans, even strongly anti-Left conservatives deeply concerned about illegal immigration. Remember, it's not the immigration, it's the illegality!

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 6:13 AM  

We're still the ones who are both heavily armed, and who can hit something with a firearm beyond 5 yards -- because we use the sights!

I'm beginning to suspect that may be part of the problem. I think the fact that they are personally armed has led many Americans into a false sense of complacency about the sustainability of their nation. They always imagined shooting evil government jackboots trying to take their guns, not nice people who are just as American as you or me gradually transforming their laws and culture.

By the time they realize the nice people who outnumber them are the real long-term threat, it will be too late and the weapons won't matter. They were conceptually and strategically outflanked; the Second Amendment may prove to have been America's Maginot Line.

Blogger Steve April 08, 2018 6:30 AM  

So it turns out the Japs could've invaded the west coast.

Blogger Matrick April 08, 2018 6:35 AM  

Unfortunately, I've heard people say "they're just as British as we are" on many occasions. I imagine it's the same across Europe.

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 08, 2018 6:36 AM  

This 2nd idea is interesting. Historically, successful authoritarian societies maintained social pressure valves to blow off tensions. Carnival, or Pasquino in Rome. Seeing as the decline of the American nation correlates with increasing centralization, the illusion of a citizen army may well be the pressure valve for creeping authoritarianism.

I have to think about this further.

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 6:36 AM  

Isn't the solution to do as other countries have done and expel them?

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 08, 2018 6:36 AM  

I meant the 2nd amendment idea. It just got me thinking and I posted in haste.

Blogger Steve April 08, 2018 6:37 AM  

I've only heard that sarcastically or from scumbag politicians.

Blogger AdognamedOp April 08, 2018 6:41 AM  

Well it's rather discouraging that you hold us in such little regard SDL
Proximity equals war. There's an ocean between us and those Euro slavs now serving the dimmis. It;s not a question of what action we take. We can simply sit back and watch you Euro fags get overrun. We have streches of land to fall back on if need be. You guys are getting pushed out to sea, not us.

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 6:41 AM  

Americans since WWW, European Theater of Operatons, have consistently maintained a 10:1 kill ratio in tactical ground combat. We can win with only 30% of the population, if need be. But we shouldn't let it get to that point.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch April 08, 2018 6:43 AM  

The Left has realized its strategic to be merciless, and that this is war:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/07/twitter-jack-dorsey-second-civil-war-trump/

Vox, I hope you cover this article.

The author of that article Jack Dorsey promotes is oriented correctly for winning. The Left is pulling no punches. They AREN'T interested in reforming the Right. There is no dialogue. There is only sober desire to put boot on the neck of the Right for all time. They don't care about you if you're Right. In fact, they want you doxxed, unemployed, and banned from speaking if you're on the Right. They likely would rejoice to hang you from lampposts.

This is why the Left is on track to win, destroy Western Civilization, and charge straight into the arms of Hell. The Left is doing it correctly. They are driving the Right off of the cliff. They view this situation for what It is: a civil war.

Blogger Steve April 08, 2018 6:43 AM  

We have streches of land to fall back on if need be.

Wolverines!

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 6:46 AM  

In order to fight the enemy you have to understand who the enemy is.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2018 6:47 AM  

"Nor does it appear that any American will even think about doing anything until it is far too late."

There are many of us who that thought about it. The trouble being that armed resistance by a few will be put down by the federal government and the aftermath on the MSM might very well make the situation even worse.

The USA is done. We do have hope. We need to get one state to leave the union and start the process. I hope it is California since both left and right would be glad to see them go it alone.

CalExit! CalExit now!

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 08, 2018 6:47 AM  

@14. Laramie Hirsch

Yup. The Alt-Right/MAGA/nationalist movement has forced them into the open. The mask had slipped pretty far under Obama, but there is no longer even a fig leaf of a pretense now. Given the level of complacency, the more rapidly it accelerates, the better it is strategically.

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 6:48 AM  

Ww2 that is.

Blogger Lazarus April 08, 2018 6:49 AM  

They always imagined shooting evil government jackboots trying to take their guns, not nice people who are just as American as you or me gradually transforming their laws and culture.

In December of 2015, SOTUS refused to hear a Second Amendment challenge to a Chicago suburb’s ordinance that banned semiautomatic assault weapons and large-capacity magazines. Now, Deerfield Illinois has issued a similar ban. Fines for non-compliance are $250-$1000 per day.

The jackboots won't take them, the Repo Man will, one community at a time. Part of the long march through the 2A, just like the one through 1A.

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 6:52 AM  

According to a recent story on the web, one of the Carolinas is considering secession because the federal government is not enforcing the laws that are the sole responsibility of the fedgov.

Blogger Steve April 08, 2018 6:59 AM  

They view this situation for what It is: a civil war.

I reckon that's true, and the US has been in a state of cold civil war for some time.

Trump has been an accelerant, through no fault of his own, just by being Trump.

So Congress hasn't been able to pass a budget since... 2009? The judiciary is in revolt against the executive, handing down flagrantly unlawful and politically motivated decisions at whim. The legislature is determined to overturn or ignore the consequences of the 2016 presidential election. Several states are openly defying federal law, and a large percentage of the country hates a large percentage of the rest of the country, neither of them finding it tolerable to live under the others' rules.

The peaceful solution to all this - democratic elections, laws and a constitution - obviously doesn't work, or it wouldn't be Current Year. So non-peaceful solutions will emerge.

Something something a house divided...

Blogger Laramie Hirsch April 08, 2018 7:06 AM  

So non-peaceful solutions will emerge.

The Left must fire first.

But the Left doesn't attack boldly and with courage. They don't attack head-on. The Left stabs you in the back, or when you're sleeping, or they use someone else as their attack dog.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 08, 2018 7:07 AM  

I recognised as a small child that the Chinese were taking over my city and was laughed at. Now, nobody laughs. They just look sad. Personally, I am considering "returning" to a Europe which I have never visited. In 100 years, nobody will remember these mangia cakes.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 08, 2018 7:08 AM  

@2 We are damned for all time.

Blogger Rocklea Marina April 08, 2018 7:14 AM  

The West in general and America in particular, have been in a state of perpetual revolution for quite some time now. America's chief contributions being nuclear weapons, dead babies and streaming porn. All in the name of freedom.

The first amendment amounts to, "I may not like or agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it, until you kill me."

Blogger Aeoli April 08, 2018 7:23 AM  

THANK YOU

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 08, 2018 7:24 AM  

@5

This is a very interesting thought. As a Canadian, we technically don't have the right to bear arms as a way of checking tyranny. However, that is still a consideration of most people who own them. We still have the same mentality as described: Oh but these people are so nice, they are just like you and I. Wrong!

Blogger Aeoli April 08, 2018 7:27 AM  

I think the fact that they are personally armed has led many Americans into a false sense of complacency about the sustainability of their nation. They always imagined shooting evil government jackboots trying to take their guns, not nice people who are just as American as you or me gradually transforming their laws and culture.

By the time they realize the nice people who outnumber them are the real long-term threat, it will be too late and the weapons won't matter. They were conceptually and strategically outflanked; the Second Amendment may prove to have been America's Maginot Line.


Keep dropping these bombs Vox, they'll get it eventually. Then we might even have a fighting chance!

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 7:30 AM  

The trouble being that armed resistance by a few will be put down by the federal government and the aftermath on the MSM might very well make the situation even worse.

Of course it will be. Lexington and Concord were put down by the government too. See, that's why no modern American is likely to fight. They aren't willing to do so unless they are a) assured of short-term victory and b) are unlikely to suffer personally.

Those are the consequences of societal decadence. What do you think is going to magically change for the better? I would anticipate that succeeding generations are going to think exactly the same thing. "It would have been easier X years ago, so we can't do anything now."

And fear of the mainstream media is a justification for surrender? You underline my point.

Blogger Dire Badger April 08, 2018 7:37 AM  

It's not a will problem, it's a target identification problem.

Blogger Peaceful Poster April 08, 2018 7:37 AM  

Yes. Forget the Mexicans or the Muslims. Those groups don't have the smarts or the skills to take over the country.

But watch out for the Asians! Canada may be the canary in the coal mind in that respect. The two largest cities (Vancouver & Toronto) are rapidly becoming majority Asian (I believe Vancouver is already there).

The Asians now dominate the elite Canadian Universities which lead to the elite jobs.

This is largely the result of the so-called "merit based" immigration system in Canada.

Let this serve as a warning to America, and to Trump who apparently wants to implement a similar system. Merit based immigration will flood the USA with Asians.

They won't clean your toilets or mow your lawns, but they will take your jobs and those of your kids.

Blogger Rocklea Marina April 08, 2018 7:41 AM  

The Constitution is the Magic Paper that protects the Magic Dirt. A dialectic distraction and a rhetorical device.

Blogger LP999-16 April 08, 2018 7:45 AM  

Startling yet spoken of, Vox is right on. Thank you dear host for speaking truth that some will not acknowledge as they are not woke.

Islam and Asians are not going to par well/incompatibility or get along - ever. Immigration is our death.

I cannot forget this matter of diversity equals white genocide as Americans (some) have rejected Christianity, torn America to shreds teaching post modernism and multi culti as normalcy. These immigrants hold no regard to the laws to norms or traditions of America or the West that are gone or being erased; culture, language, borders.

All assailed.

May the Lord help us on this Orthodox Easter Sunday.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 08, 2018 7:47 AM  

Free speech for whites (Americans) has been my strategic goal, but unfortunately such a goal has to be attached to American Conservatism which is blank slate to the core or on the other hand attached to the broken men of the white nationalist movement whose hands always go back to the fire of acting broken.

Blogger Aeoli April 08, 2018 7:48 AM  

It's not a will problem, it's a target identification problem.

It's 100% a will problem. Americans are so individualistic that they can't even comprehend the huge individual sacrifices necessary to conduct war. "What's in it for me?" they say.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales April 08, 2018 7:51 AM  

@21

Fittingly enough, South Carolina... again...

Blogger wreckage April 08, 2018 7:53 AM  

You can't win 4G warfare by losing the moral ground. Violent, pointless action won't win. The Right is great at fantasizing about how they're going to, one day, eventually, use violence (as a resistance) but appalling at constructive economic, social and political action. The left hires the left, protects the left, votes left, hands down rulings left, organizes, and never, ever gives up.

The right hang each other out to dry, then roll over.

There is no point talking about waging war when you can't even run an award slate, stack a homeowner's association, or control the HR department in your own workplace. All of these are the informational and organizational theaters of warfare. If you can't make it work there, you might as well throw your guns in the sea, because you will never be an effective resistance, let alone an effective insurrection.

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 7:56 AM  

You're not going to be commenting here anymore if you insist on trying to make the subject about me and attacking me, Emmanuel.

This is your one and only warning.

Of course I have considerable contempt for the decadence of the USA. I watched my father spend two decades and millions of dollars trying to warn people and change things. He's still in prison.

As I have repeatedly said, I prefer my societies pre-collapsed.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2018 8:11 AM  

I don't think the Chinese have the manpower, the looks and the creativity to take over a diverse America. Unlike Jews, Chinese People will be identified by Negros and Hispanics. And they will not accept them as their overlord just as they don't accept (((white people))) as their overlords.

"At least the Europeans grasp that they are under attack and refuse to claim that their attackers are "nice people and real Europeans, just as European as you or me." I've literally never heard a single European ever say anything like that, not even a Swede.

And I've seldom heard anything else from Americans, even strongly anti-Left conservatives deeply concerned about illegal immigration. Remember, it's not the immigration, it's the illegality!"

I and many of my fellow Germans (especially the wealthier classes that think right wing) are more enraged by the legal issues than by the immigration. I think the legality issue comes from an authoritarian personality. This state of chaos, lawlessness and the existence of two sets of rules is something that makes us go mental.

That being said, a lot of Germans say and think the exact same thing that you describe. "Europe has this magic soil and a piece of paper will turn anyone into a German. If we could get these smart Asians instead of these useless Muslims, everything would be better. It's just the bad ones we don't want here. We can't deport anyone because there is this one really nice family that will get deported soon." And while all right wing movements have an ethnocentric strain, I'm still deeply worried about them being subverted by centrist cucks that are afraid to say what they think.

Europe is lucky. East-Asian immigrants aren't as attracted to Europe as they are to the US, Australia or Canada. If I were to take a guess it's because you cannot survive as well here without learning German/French/Spanish/Italian/... .

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 8:15 AM  

You're now banned and spammed, Emmanuel Mateo-Morales. Don't comment here again.

Blogger dienw April 08, 2018 8:26 AM  

@VD
They always imagined shooting evil government jackboots trying to take their guns
We will soon see within sixty days: "Illinois town bans certain semi-automatic weapons – Violators face $1000 fines".

Blogger Nate April 08, 2018 8:31 AM  

"America has ceased to be a white nation."

no. it hasn't. America is still 70% white.

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 08, 2018 8:38 AM  

It's like they can only maintain the snarky subtle troll act floating under the ban threshold for so long before detonating.

The SJW laws and psycho-sexual hierarchy seemed to be solid general heuristics on first glance. But I did not realize just how accurately they conformed to empirical reality.

Blogger dienw April 08, 2018 8:43 AM  

Uncle John's Band wrote:This 2nd idea is interesting. Historically, successful authoritarian societies maintained social pressure valves to blow off tensions. Carnival, or Pasquino in Rome. Seeing as the decline of the American nation correlates with increasing centralization, the illusion of a citizen army may well be the pressure valve for creeping authoritarianism.

I have to think about this further.


Limbaugh, Hannity, and others are set up to be pressure valves.

Blogger The Kurgan April 08, 2018 8:43 AM  

The right needs to eject the left directly and unabiguously. That’s the only way to force their hand.
There is power in boldly stating:
No feminism
No faggotry
No sjw
Not here.
Now bow to Jesus, the patriarchy and political incorrectness or GTFO.
And enforce it.

You people really need to read SJWs always lie and then also get the basic tenets of say the crusaders or the holy Inquisition in your bones.

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 08, 2018 8:44 AM  

43. Emotional incontinence always does them in. It is the weakness at the heart of our age.

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 8:49 AM  

The SJW laws and psycho-sexual hierarchy seemed to be solid general heuristics on first glance. But I did not realize just how accurately they conformed to empirical reality.

They should. They are merely articulated empirical observations. And they are remarkably powerful predictive tools for everything from business to personal relationships.

Blogger Robert Browning April 08, 2018 8:52 AM  

Both Jews and Chinese are without Christ and Christ is what makes whites supreme. Christian morality sets white civilization above all others. Not money Jews.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 08, 2018 9:04 AM  

#42 we whites have no free speech to speak as whites for whites. Yes we do have free speech if you want to speak like a conservative in increasingly obscure language as we legitimized the language of isms, ists and phobias.

Blogger The Observer April 08, 2018 9:12 AM  

I don't think the Chinese have the manpower, the looks and the creativity to take over a diverse America. Unlike Jews, Chinese People will be identified by Negros and Hispanics. And they will not accept them as their overlord just as they don't accept (((white people))) as their overlords.

Of course they won't. The only thing preventing China from depopulating Africa right now is Harvard and the Eye of Sauron. When the West is unable to bring any form of meaningful resistance to the table, do you think they will care about exterminating them all?

Blogger James Dixon April 08, 2018 9:21 AM  

> But the one approach that definitely will not work is declaring all white people to be irremediably tainted by racism at the level of the unconscious and all nonwhite people to be fragile to the point of inanition at the touch of slights that appear banal and trivial.

And yet the former has been official policy since affirmative action was swept in and the latter unofficial policy for a good 10 years now.

> We can win with only 30% of the population, if need be.

As long as we have nukes we can win with less than that. The results won't be pretty though.

> The USA is done. We do have hope. We need to get one state to leave the union and start the process.

Agreed.

> The peaceful solution to all this...

Is secession. Just as it was last time. It wasn't allowed to happen last time, at the cost of 600K lives. Maybe we'll show more wisdom this time.

> What do you think is going to magically change for the better?

Nothing. It's not that things are going to change for the better. It's that they're going to change for the worse faster than people can imagine.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 08, 2018 9:29 AM  

Speaking of yesterday's commentary on the end of the jewish century will the usual suspects of jewish powerlessness suddenly come out against identity politics?

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 08, 2018 9:39 AM  

47. VD

I'm seeing that.

Funny how Aristotle never stops being right.

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 9:44 AM  

Speaking of yesterday's commentary on the end of the jewish century will the usual suspects of jewish powerlessness suddenly come out against identity politics?

No, they'll try utilizing the tactics that have proven successful against Americans and Europeans. The seeds of failure are usually born of the fruit of success.

Blogger Long Live The West April 08, 2018 9:56 AM  

The Alabama election is a perfect example of this. Despite all the Right's posturing about being 'aware' of the left's lies. They still fell for the false accusations against Moore. Expect the left to target a few senators this year, because hey! It worked before. Most people really are stupidly content in their bubbles.

I'm really hoping Trump has the wisdom to see that he has to strike the left hard, otherwise he's not going to live very long in America.

If Trump doesn't get it done, I imagine we'll have to go through another 8-12 years of absolute corruption, at which point we'll likely be on the brink of civil war and get Trump 2.0. Only instead of being a 'deal maker', he'll hopefully be known as the 'Grand Inquisitor'. We'll get rolling heads one of these days. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Blogger James Dixon April 08, 2018 10:12 AM  

> I imagine we'll have to go through another 8-12 years of absolute corruption, at which point we'll likely be on the brink of civil war and get Trump 2.0.

It won't take 8-12 years. SJW's always double down, remember. They'll start by trying for a repeal of the second amendment and go from there.

Blogger Steve April 08, 2018 10:17 AM  

The Alabama election is a perfect example of this. Despite all the Right's posturing about being 'aware' of the left's lies. They still fell for the false accusations against Moore

Or maybe he was an objectively poor candidate, with a weak track record of winning state elections, who had no GOTV effort and was mysteriously absent from his own campaign, other than the embarrassing Boomerdad photo ops where he larped as a cowboy?

Blogger Looking Glass April 08, 2018 10:26 AM  

The first issue is that "Asians" is a descriptor, not a people group. None of the individual "Asian" groups, be it Han Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese or Hmong have any identity association with each other. So, they act as competing, not cooperating, interests.

The next issue is that the Han, in the States, are all from the peasant ranks. Thus, their Men tend to be short, scrawny and uncharismatic. This is why the Brahmans have had a, relatively, large media presence in a far shorter time. The Han could never hold together a coalition of various interest groups, especially since they can't play the "chameleon game" both the Jews and British Elites pulled. (And the Irish Catholics, to a lesser extent.)

Utter side point: I just realize how much of an Attack Vector they used "Canadian Intellectuals" to further intertwine American institutions to the European Elite's interests. Speaking of "Chameleon Game".

The last issue that comes to mind about any potential "Asian" domination is something that I think comes a bit more from experience with the various factions. Why is everyone assuming they'd be competent at this type of approach? The Japanese couldn't pull it off, and they're far & away the most competent of the East Asian nations. Chinese are not very good at "making the trains run on time" and also tend to have too much dignity to do the "woe is us!" routine constantly. The Han approach is always to just throw more bodies at the problem, which they can't really do well in the States. Especially since Han living in the States don't have more children than back in China.

This ties back to the core Attack Vector that was used in all of this disaster. They corrupted all of the Checks & Balances by worming through every layer of "Who Watches the Watchmen?" analysis. It's why the directed corruption is focused on Washington, DC, and yet the USA has actually voted pretty far to the Right with regularity since the 1970s. Nothing changed not because Americans didn't vote for changes, but due to hidden, targeted corruption to prevent change by hyper-specific interests. All of the points of failure where found and exploited. As AC pointed out not too long ago, it should be obvious that someone would eventually go about producing a Network to control that. (And it's been in place since at least the 1950s.)


@50 The Observer

No one is stopping the Chinese, even now, nor would they. The issue is that type of approach takes a long time to setup & carry through. They've got to wait a few years for the locals to kill each other, then they have local leverage with Food to acquire the necessary protections to fully establish their bases of operation. (They need to produce dependent tribes, which they can use to clean up issues for the first few decades.) The Chinese take over of East Africa is more likely to be a century long project.

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 10:27 AM  

We only have one side of the story. Maybe they were expelled from Egypt as well.

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 10:29 AM  

The Chinese take over of East Africa is more likely to be a century long project.

A century is a long time and no plan survives once you meet the enemy in battle.

Blogger rainman April 08, 2018 10:32 AM  

If the UK and Sweden are what ethnically aware white countries look like, if that's what winning looks like, then nationalism is meaningless.

Blogger Tino April 08, 2018 10:35 AM  

@55 Unfortunately the Elite don't want a world with billions of humans. You won't have 8-12 years. If Trump doesn't get it done you are looking at the implementation of Agenda21. It is now very easy to commit democide and they will.

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 10:40 AM  

Donald Trump wrote the following in "Time to Get Tough" (published in 2011):

When I first wrote this book, our debt was $15 trillion. It has soared pas $18 trillion and will soon cross $20 trillion. Let me help you wrap your mind around that number. If by some miracle the so-called leaders in Washington could find a way to save one billion dollars of your tax dollars every single day, it would still take thirty-eight years to pay off the debt. And that's not even taking into account the interest.

We don't have thirty-eight years to turn this thing around. The way I see it, we have four, maybe eight years tops.


Trump has achieved amazing things in just 15 months, and I have no doubt that he will achieve even more amazing things for the next 81 months.

However, what interests me here is that it seems like some group of people set out to get the US into so much debt that the productive members of the US (whites and the currently small number of Asians) would become debt slaves to someone else.

However, given how Trump managed to Trump the establishment in 2016 he just may pull this off.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2018 10:45 AM  

"Of course they won't. The only thing preventing China from depopulating Africa right now is Harvard and the Eye of Sauron. When the West is unable to bring any form of meaningful resistance to the table, do you think they will care about exterminating them all?"

Africa is in desperate need of depopulation. That being said, China is a paper tiger and it would not surprise me if their superstate collapses before 2030.

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 10:46 AM  

Africa is in desperate need of depopulation. That being said, China is a paper tiger and it would not surprise me if their superstate collapses before 2030.

Can you point to the signs that they are a paper tiger?

Blogger Truth teller April 08, 2018 10:46 AM  

"...or they use someone else as their attack dog"

How feminine, they'll also try to instigate something between you and their dumb muscle.

Blogger Baseball Savant April 08, 2018 10:50 AM  

no. it hasn't. America is still 70% white.

I think about this fact all the time. I hope it stays that way and even better, increases.

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 10:51 AM  

@Rocklea Marina

"America's chief contributions being nuclear weapons, dead babies and streaming porn. All in the name of freedom."

Literally, all 3 of those are (((American))).

According to Feynman, the (((American))) and (((European))) physicists on the Manhattan Project where extremely dismayed that the bomb was used against the country which physically attacked us, rather than bombing the Nazis who had already surrendered.

Blogger Peaceful Poster April 08, 2018 10:54 AM  

America is still 70% white

You must be counting Mexicans as "white".

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 11:05 AM  

>> The peaceful solution to all this...

>Is secession. Just as it was last time. It wasn't allowed to happen last time, at the cost of 600K lives. Maybe we'll show more wisdom this time.

Ask anyone from South Vietnam or South Korea how satisfied their leftists were with mere separation and not total domination of EVERYBODY.

Blogger CoolHand April 08, 2018 11:05 AM  

Peaceful Poster wrote:America is still 70% white

You must be counting Mexicans as "white".


Nah, there are plenty of places that are "Honky Rich" to the tune of 90%+, you just don't see 'em on TV.

The little town I live near has a population of ~1,800 souls, and of those there are less than half a dozen Mexicans/South American Whatevers, and zero blacks.

All the little towns around us are the same. You've got to get into the bigger towns like Union or Jefferson City before you run into any concentration of colored folk (black, brown, yellow, (((white))), etc) to speak of.

There are many perks to living out in BFE. The lack of vibrant diversity is chief among them, along with being able to throw a rock in any direction without hitting anyone, and having a shooting range out my back door.

Blogger MadMax 1861 April 08, 2018 11:05 AM  

@42 & @67
The latest numbers indicate that the USA is 62% white and dropping fast as the Baby Boomers begin to die off.

Blogger Duke Norfolk April 08, 2018 11:10 AM  

James Dixon wrote:They'll start by trying for a repeal of the second amendment and go from there.

Do you really think they'll bother with that formality? If they gain the power they'll reinterpret it away, as they've already attempted to do; with the 2A and the rest of the Constitution.

Blogger MadMax 1861 April 08, 2018 11:15 AM  

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Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 11:17 AM  

@rainman

That's not nationalism, that's treachery and treason at the highest levels of government.

Blogger Akulkis April 08, 2018 11:20 AM  

@Crew

"Can you point to the signs that they are a paper tiger?"

One child per family policy.

Blogger Longtime Lurker April 08, 2018 11:26 AM  

Vox, thank you for the cogency. A few random thoughts in reponse:

First, the Second Amendment is sometimes referred to as the Doomsday provision of the U.S. Constitution - for use in emergency situations when the exercise of all other rights has failed to dirsupt the forces of tyranny.

Second, the geographic locus - the dark heart of the problem - is California. Defeating the forces that have transformed California into the literal shithole that it has become might well get us to the turning point we need.

Third, the controversy over the recent inclusion of the citizenship question in the 2020 Census gives us a promising opening. Democrat opposition on this question is little different in intent from Democratic determination to maintain the 3/5ths Compromise back in the day - a baldfaced insistence on the maintenance of a grossly unfair political advantage - in this case, counting illegal immigrants as citizens for the purpose of enhanced electoral clout.

Finally, at the least the Chinese have an intelligible, sophisticated strategic culture that can be studied, adapted, and turned against them, if necessary. Sun Tzu's Art of War and other ancient Chinese military classics are readily accessible in English. And if Sun Tzu worked for Mao, Sun Tzu can work for us too.

Blogger rainman April 08, 2018 11:33 AM  

@Akulkis okay, perhaps, but if nationalistic sentiment among the people is co completely ineffective at even slowing what is happening to those countries, then who needs it? If the Swedes and Britons are really allowing all this to happen to them IN SPITE of a significantly higher nationalist sentiment than the United States, then clearly nationalistic sentiment is not a determining factor in the fate of nations

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 11:41 AM  

Of course it will be. Lexington and Concord were put down by the government too. See, that's why no modern American is likely to fight. They aren't willing to do so unless they are a) assured of short-term victory and b) are unlikely to suffer personally.

What we really need is for the blacks to start a race war, or for the Technocrats to start that civil war they are currently talking up:

https://www.thewrap.com/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-torched-for-promoting-article-denouncing-bipartisanship/

That will force white to understand the issues!

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2018 11:44 AM  

@65. Crew
The same thing that made the soviet-union a paper tiger. A top down organisation of things that should not be organised from this perspective. China builds these ghost towns, they want to implement electric cars by force, their mid level government is just as corrupt as ours, they have to implement more and more draconian surveillance laws and there are plenty of rich Chinese people that live in the west that constantly try to undermine their government. And I didn't even talk about their demographic and cultural problems that plague their society.

Blogger Unknown April 08, 2018 11:49 AM  

Interesting point about the 2nd Amendment. It has struck me for awhile that the near-swaggering Right Wing American confidence about civil conflict is very similar to Dixie in the 1850s. Certainly Dixie had a much better martial spirit than the Union, but it was crushed by superior organization and industrial production. The Left has far better organization than the Right and a proven ability to flash-mob mobilize on short notice; the American Right is at best very desultory in its organization and ability to quickly mobilize. Second, much as the Union owned American industry c. 1860, the Left owns IT. How do you organize when suddenly the net and phones don't work, and the malfunctions are targeted selectively? Not something the Right seems to have expended much thought on.

Further, even if you set all ethnic allegiances and tendencies aside, Civil Citizenism doesn't work. It was beloved of Heinlein and the late Jerry Pournelle. Multiple essays in virtually every book of the "There Will Be War" and the related "Empire and Stars" anthology series promoted it. Very entrancing to the adolescent mind. But even if you can forge a multiethnic citizenry, very few people are fit to BE Citizens in the meaning of Heinlein or Pournelle. Being a Citizen is a massive investment of mental and spiritual commitment, blood, treasure and sacred honor. Very few can manage it or have the leisure time the commitment would demand. Even when Plato was dreaming up his utopian Republic 2500 years ago, with its ideal size of 10,000 Citizens, left unstated was the 200,000 Metics and Slaves and so forth that would be needed to serve the Citizens. And of course the Philosopher Kings and other gradations of hierarchy that more and more restricted how many really carried the burdens of "Citizenship."

Blogger pyrrhus April 08, 2018 11:53 AM  

The Chinese are realists, and their scientists are not subject to academic censorship, so they are aware of their problems. After 7-8000 years of destructive agricultural erosion, China's land is increasingly worn out, and its food imports are constantly increasing. It has leased a lot of productive land in the Ukraine and Africa...But the US would be the ultimate prize, and the Jews have shown that money can buy anything here...

Blogger pyrrhus April 08, 2018 11:58 AM  

@81 If the South had fought the Civil War with the hit and run tactics of Stonewall Jackson and Nathan Bedford Forrest, it would never have lost...The noble blockhead Lee gave the Union what it wanted by offering pitched battles against superior forces...That mistake will never be repeated anywhere, as we are finding out in places like Afghanistan.

Blogger Pale Male April 08, 2018 12:01 PM  

Duke Norfolk wrote:If they gain the power they'll reinterpret it away
Already doing it.  A Federal judge just upheld Massachusetts' "assault weapons" ban.
http://archive.is/XMh89

The next step is obvious.

Blogger English Tom April 08, 2018 12:05 PM  

This is why there's a big push to get the whites out of South Africa. The (((Chameleons))) don't want any competition for their new Chinese hosts.

Blogger English Tom April 08, 2018 12:10 PM  

Also factor in the possibility of a debt collapse within that 8-12 year timeframe. The epic chaos brought on and the Turner Diaries become realised.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2018 12:12 PM  

The Left has realized its strategic to be merciless, and that this is war:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/07/twitter-jack-dorsey-second-civil-war-trump/

Vox, I hope you cover this article.

The author of that article Jack Dorsey promotes is oriented correctly for winning. The Left is pulling no punches. They AREN'T interested in reforming the Right. There is no dialogue. There is only sober desire to put boot on the neck of the Right for all time. They don't care about you if you're Right. In fact, they want you doxxed, unemployed, and banned from speaking if you're on the Right. They likely would rejoice to hang you from lampposts.

This is why the Left is on track to win, destroy Western Civilization, and charge straight into the arms of Hell. The Left is doing it correctly. They are driving the Right off of the cliff. They view this situation for what It is: a civil war.


This has always been the left - even 80 years ago. There were folks who issued warnings even back then and they were dismissed as crackpots. Magic dirt is a lie and it always has been. Even the few who sense something has gone terribly wrong can't face the nature of the left. They put on their boxing gloves, adjust their bow-ties and remind their honorable antifa opponent of the importance of observing the Marquess of Queensberry rules and assume the position once antifa grunts in response while loading his government-supplied MP-5. MPAI.

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 12:15 PM  

@80: It has been a long time since the Warring States period and I don't think they want it back. Have you talked to any Chinese people about these things? The people I talk to don't want China to break up.

China builds these ghost towns, they want to implement electric cars by force, their mid level government is just as corrupt as ours, they have to implement more and more draconian surveillance laws and there are plenty of rich Chinese people that live in the west that constantly try to undermine their government.

Heh. Pinpricks. 华侨 are just not a force that can have any effect on China!

Blogger MickDundee April 08, 2018 12:24 PM  

For sale: AR-15, never fired, only dropped once...

Shot: Your typical conservative will disarm voluntarily. It will be the greatest unconditional surrender in history. All one needs to do is quote St. Martin Looter Kang and accuse gun owners of being “anti-semites”...

Chaser: https://www-m.cnn.com/2012/12/30/justice/connecticut-bridgeport-gun-buyback/index.html
“Tables filled with handguns, shotguns and rifles packed a police building in Connecticut's most populous city, where a gun buyback program drew scores of gun owners -- many of whom said they were motivated to get rid of their weapons in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.”

TL; DR: Conservatism is a total failure.

Blogger modsquad April 08, 2018 12:28 PM  

I don't see you manning baricades with a gun.

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 12:43 PM  

If the Swedes and Britons are really allowing all this to happen to them IN SPITE of a significantly higher nationalist sentiment than the United States, then clearly nationalistic sentiment is not a determining factor in the fate of nations.

Just stop. You're clearly not tall enough for this ride.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2018 12:49 PM  

@88. Crew
Most of the Europeans I talk to do not want the European Union to break up. They would like to see it be reformed. Yet I doubt the EU will survive until 2030.

Blogger Brett baker April 08, 2018 1:39 PM  

Michael Vlahoss has been arguing we probably are in the 1850s on the John Bachelor show. 10pm est most Fridays he's a guest.

Blogger Brett baker April 08, 2018 1:39 PM  

Michael Vlahoss has been arguing we probably are in the 1850s on the John Bachelor show. 10pm est most Fridays he's a guest.

Blogger Dr. J April 08, 2018 1:54 PM  

I missed the announcement about black pill day at VP. You always tell us stateside hicks not to comment on the state of affairs in Europe due to our ignorance of action on the ground. Still, I think Heartiste's post about the white chick getting ploughed in a pile of trash by an African boat-guy in Italy was fairly compelling. Likewise, you're perspective on on-the-ground conditions stateside is limited - eyes are opening in the most unlikely of places at a rapid pace.

Practically overnight we've had a major shift in popular sentiment, the primary sign of which is MAGA. The things Trump gets away with saying (or tweeting) today would have tanked a similar campaign in 2008. FFS, Jorge Busheron was giving speeches in Spanish in 2004, now the Bush name is dirt and Yeb was laughed out of the primaries for doing the same.

Still not tired of winning. Still not ready to give up. The pain that will serve as the stimulant for the fight will simultaneously encourage outsiders to return home - economic collapse and hardship in the home land. Immigrants and Dindus will cannibalize shitlibs in their urban hellholes while tight-knit rural communities come together.

Blogger James Dixon April 08, 2018 1:57 PM  

> Ask anyone from South Vietnam or South Korea how satisfied their leftists were with mere separation and not total domination of EVERYBODY.

South Korea doesn't have nukes. Yet, that is.

> Do you really think they'll bother with that formality?

Yes. Remember law #2. SJW's always double down. They've gone completely around the bend over Trump's election. They'll go hell bent for letter with there full agenda if they get back into power. There weren't be any measured or halfway steps. And thus, round two will begin.

> That mistake will never be repeated anywhere, as we are finding out in places like Afghanistan.

Nor will surrender. If civil war comes, this will be a fight to the death.

> ...in Connecticut's...

There aren't any conservatives in Connecticut to speak of. It's like NY or NJ or IL.

> Michael Vlahoss has been arguing we probably are in the 1850s

I'm afraid we're getting close to 1860 at this point.

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 2:12 PM  

I missed the announcement about black pill day at VP. You always tell us stateside hicks not to comment on the state of affairs in Europe due to our ignorance of action on the ground. Still, I think Heartiste's post about the white chick getting ploughed in a pile of trash by an African boat-guy in Italy was fairly compelling. Likewise, you're perspective on on-the-ground conditions stateside is limited - eyes are opening in the most unlikely of places at a rapid pace.

The important difference is that Americans always get the basic facts about Europe totally wrong. They have literally no idea what the actual demographics are. Whereas I know the basic facts about the USA much better than the average American.

It's amusing that you found that post to be compelling, considering that blacks kill at least two orders of magnitude more white girls in the USA, and rape at least three orders of magnitude more, than in Italy.

And yet, that one rape-murder inspired a much stronger reaction in Italy than all the rapes and murders combined since the Civil War have.

Blogger Long Live The West April 08, 2018 2:24 PM  

"It won't take 8-12 years. SJW's always double down, remember. They'll start by trying for a repeal of the second amendment and go from there."

Start? Yes, they'll start right away. As with Obama they'll attack anything and everything that has yet to be desecrated. But while Obama made a significant amount of progress in his 8 years, he was still very far from completing the process. These things take a very long time.

When Civil War 2.0 finally starts it will seem like it all occurred suddenly. But in reality this has been building up for decades. You think antifa rioting and people getting beat up signal the end?

Far from it.

You'll know the cold war is going hot when people start shooting each other in the streets.

Blogger rainman April 08, 2018 2:24 PM  

Would you care to be specific? Is it that the US will deteriorate beyond what is currently being experienced in these countries or am I misinformed as to the current state of affairs and the US is presently the site of behavior which makes Rotherham etc and gangs using hand grenades pale in comparison?

Blogger Long Live The West April 08, 2018 2:37 PM  

VD wrote:I missed the announcement about black pill day at VP. You always tell us stateside hicks not to comment on the state of affairs in Europe due to our ignorance of action on the ground. Still, I think Heartiste's post about the white chick getting ploughed in a pile of trash by an African boat-guy in Italy was fairly compelling. Likewise, you're perspective on on-the-ground conditions stateside is limited - eyes are opening in the most unlikely of places at a rapid pace.

The important difference is that Americans always get the basic facts about Europe totally wrong. They have literally no idea what the actual demographics are. Whereas I know the basic facts about the USA much better than the average American.

It's amusing that you found that post to be compelling, considering that blacks kill at least two orders of magnitude more white girls in the USA, and rape at least three orders of magnitude more, than in Italy.

And yet, that one rape-murder inspired a much stronger reaction in Italy than all the rapes and murders combined since the Civil War have.


Murdering babies en mass tends to dull a societies conscience. The problem is that a lot of people here in America don't care about something until it affects them.

Another big factor is even people on the right tend to be soft on criminals. They'll say that abortion is wrong. But what do they say when it comes to treating people who've had an abortion? Love them, because you know, they've had a hard life.

And if these people can excuse murder, they can excuse anything. Particularly when a black man is involved, and they don't want to offend anyone.

Blogger VD April 08, 2018 2:39 PM  

Would you care to be specific?

I have been. Go read the books. Go read the columns. Go read the blog posts.

Blogger rainman April 08, 2018 2:42 PM  

Ok. I will do so and I will try to bring a broader understanding to the discussion when I am done

Blogger Jack Amok April 08, 2018 2:42 PM  

Those are the consequences of societal decadence. What do you think is going to magically change for the better?

Prosperity, or lack of it. That's what will change, Vox. Too many people still have too much to lose. The establishment can paper over a lot of problems with Funny Fed Money, but that's not going to last much longer. And that'll - coincidence? - happen about the time the Boomers finally lose their geriatric grip on power.

Then we'll learn if those Boomers Joplin and Kristofferson got it right about freedom. Or maybe it's the other way around.

Blogger Dr. J April 08, 2018 2:46 PM  

that one rape-murder inspired a much stronger reaction in Italy than all the rapes and murders combined since the Civil War have.

The picture I linked was of a nice "Italian couple" frolicking in the garbage, not a rape.

The problem we have stateside is population density - still plenty of white safespace to run to when your neighborhood browns. Our demographics overall are worse than Europe's, but the !Americans! and their enablers are concentrated in urban areas and the blue states. I wouldn't count out the Anglo-Saxon remnant just yet. I've got the most blue, Hillary-supporting/DFL/Minnesota-nicey lady neighbor openly saying the Somalis need to go back. She's gonna vote Trump in 2020.

Either way - credit where it is due - you're doing far more in the culture war than most residing stateside. Grazzi tante.

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 2:55 PM  

@91: Bait and switch much? We were talking about China.

Your claim was that overseas Chinese (华侨) are trying to destabilize the Chinese government. My claim was that those were mere pinpricks and I will further say that most Chinese in China have been encouraged by the government to be hyper-nationalistic as are many of the overseas Chinese. They identify primarily as Chinese.

I don't think China is going to fall apart and devolve into the warring states again because they have been indoctrinated in how bad that was.

Perhaps you can stay on topic.

Blogger John April 08, 2018 2:56 PM  

What social compact?

The task is simple. Convince American men—especially the ones who have been destroyed by the enemy—that the compact is broken. There is no moral duty to traitorous civil institutions. There is no moral duty to the xenos. There is no moral duty to the White Left. There is no moral duty to traitorous women. And there is no political duty to Christian traitors.

The war that matters is waged in our minds. When that war is over, well…look what Lincoln (or the commies, or the jews) did with just lies and sheer willpower. Look what the Israelis did.

We don't need lies.

Blogger Crew April 08, 2018 3:02 PM  

105: Vox is doing a very good job of providing a philosophical underpinning of a revolt against the traitors in DC and the DNC.

Never forget the value of propaganda as an important underpinning of the war.

However, maybe we need some more pithy slogans.

Blogger John April 08, 2018 3:49 PM  

 Vox is doing a very good job of providing a philosophical underpinning of a revolt

Can we use that term? Monkey see, monkey do is a good midwit strategy, and this midwit has noticed that Vox leaves certain dots to be connected by the reader (even if they're obvious connections), e.g. that post about the legality of Roman senators' extracurricular actives…or this one.

Never forget the value of propaganda as an important underpinning of the war.

However, maybe we need some more pithy slogans.


Actually I was thinking about that on the drive to/from church. People in the car might have had to endure a lengthy rant. I was thinking about how war propaganda can come back to bite you in the rear, big time. Look at Lincoln. He won, but because he (and those who came after him) justified the war proper and the continuing 4G/cold war (which never ended) on two collossal lies (one: it was all Constitutional, and two: blacks are American), everything they build is unravelling. On the other hand, at least some of the South's propaganda was focused on slavery, which kinda didn't work out so well for anyone.

It occurred to me that abortion might end up being a good proxy (among others), due to its active nature, vs. "hmm, the neighborhood sure looks different than it did when I grew up". I observe that abortion has all the right allies and all the right enemies. Again, compare to Gulf of Tonkin, Muh WMDs, Parkland, or the hilarious Operation Northwoods. It helps if you're actually justified in throwing the first punch.

Anonymous Anonymous April 08, 2018 4:16 PM  

the fact that they are personally armed has led many Americans into a false sense of complacency about the sustainability of their nation. They always imagined shooting evil government jackboots trying to take their guns, not nice people who are just as American as you or me gradually transforming their laws and culture

By the time they realize the nice people who outnumber them are the real long-term threat


The biggest gun out there is Latrina's 21 crackbaby vagina & brown vaginas firing full auto using white taxpayer $$$ as ammo.

Blogger D John April 08, 2018 4:40 PM  

@102 Jack Amok.

Agreed. Prosperity - plenty and security - fuels all decadence and all collapse of asabiya. As wealth degrades and threats encroach closer, asabiya recovers.

Of course, the peoples who emerge from the far side of Dark Ages are rarely the peoples who existed before the collapses. Italians are not Romans, for example. Though in the case of the great existential empires, the neoethnoi that emerge in the empire often endure through feudal collapses. The Han would be today's foremost example. The Imperial Egyptian neoethnicity endured a good long time before being finally ground under.

America is already an empire in the sense that the Roman Res Publica was an Empire. The Principate phase approaches but is still not upon us. It will be interesting to for our descendants to look back and see if an American Imperial Neothnicity transitions to long term viability as did the Han, or if the American founding ethnicity withers and dies like Western Rome.

Dark Ages and Imperial Feudal Collapses are not quite the same thing. In the later case, the regime long divided can reunite many times before a terminal Dark Age finishes off the existential Empire (aka Civilization) in question.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 08, 2018 6:15 PM  

And yet, that one rape-murder inspired a much stronger reaction in Italy than all the rapes and murders combined since the Civil War have.

@96 VD
I blame the guilt-based black-worship which functions as our de-facto national religion, just after Jew-worship. Europeans don't have that as badly as Americans.

I'm convinced that it's the difference in religiosity that makes Americans think Europe is toast. Among white societies, secular ones that have never experienced communist dictatorship have demonstrated themselves to be far more friendly to being invaded than Christian and/or ex-communist ones.

So on balance, if and only if you take religiosity into account, Europeans are better off than Americans.

Blogger DonReynolds April 08, 2018 6:40 PM  

Laramie Hirsch wrote:So non-peaceful solutions will emerge.

The Left must fire first.

But the Left doesn't attack boldly and with courage. They don't attack head-on. The Left stabs you in the back, or when you're sleeping, or they use someone else as their attack dog.


Truthfully, that is a false tripwire. No matter who shoots first, both sides will insist the other started it and the Media will lie like a snake. So do not worry about who shoots first. We will never know for certain anyway. (It is far too easy for either side to do their own "false flag", attacking their own people, in order to provide the excuse.

The Left has no shortage of attack dogs. They can pick and choose which ones to use. They are all mad and dangerous.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf April 08, 2018 6:41 PM  

Asians are still a small minority inside the USA. It will take hundreds of years before they command a majority. That said, if open boarders were allowed, China would dominate the Western hemisphere within a century.

Stop and consider the human genome, and our ability to fix it. Soon disposition will be delineated from other phenotype, like hair color, intellegence or eye shape. If genomic expression is truly important, and we want to live in a free world, then we need to take seriously our eventual ability to choose these traits in the next generation.

Genetics is more important than the GraecoRoman Legacy or Beleif. We can always reinvestigate philosophy, tradition and law. If people seek meaning they will find a solice in spiritual belief. But if we lose control over the genome, which may indeed happen if we're not vigilant, then the future envisioned in books such as a Brave New World may well befall us. With many of our descendents playing the part of worked dunce. Or at least complient cuck.

Blogger Unknown April 08, 2018 6:55 PM  

What Vox understands in his core as a multi-racial advisor and what we believe is that when the Saxon starts to hate, we abandon this nonsense.

I have no concerns, because democracy was something we tolerated, not something we championed.

It was convenient. It wasn't right. It was easy, until it wasn't.

We have no fear of Indians and Chinese oppression. We know them. It's not a fight against them. As it always was, it's a fight against NE Puritans who want control.

Trump is a warning, not sign. As it always was, it's a fight between Puritans versus Normans. And after 1000 years, we're tired of your shit.

Blogger rycamor April 08, 2018 7:06 PM  

Here is the question: are regular Christian conservative Americans truly cucked on immigration, or are they just "cloaking"?

By this I mean, most American Christians are quick to qualify their support of Trump with "Well, it's about **illegal** immigration, that's all."

I suspect that for a great many Christians, they realize that the Overton window has not shifted to the point where they can be actually anti-immigration in polite company, so Trump has given them a convenient pressure valve for now.

The next step will be to engage in rhetorical pro combined with de facto anti (also something Trump does), by means of heightened immigration requirements and such ("We only want the brightest and hte best!"). Trump is cagey enough to know that's the only way it can be played right now. Give it another 10 years and maybe Americans will be ready to go back to temporary suspension of immigration, quotas, etc...

Or... not. This is indeed the question.

Blogger DonReynolds April 08, 2018 7:11 PM  

Peaceful Poster wrote:America is still 70% white

You must be counting Mexicans as "white".


All Hispanics put together in the USA are 16 percent of the population, but only about half of them (8%) are in the country legally....and that includes Mexicans, Central Americans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, and Filipinos. A disproportionate number of them are women and minor children. Roughly one person in six, but if you are only talking about legal Hispanics...more like one in twelve.

Negroes are 12.6 percent of the US population and some of them are illegal aliens too from the Caribbean islands mostly. That would be one person in eight.

Yes, this is still a white country, but that does not mean that all whites agree or are on the same side. Probably 20 percent of whites are reliably anti-white on most days.

Blogger DonReynolds April 08, 2018 7:28 PM  

@77 Longtime Lurker
"Democrat opposition on this question is little different in intent from Democratic determination to maintain the 3/5ths Compromise back in the day - a baldfaced insistence on the maintenance of a grossly unfair political advantage - in this case, counting illegal immigrants as citizens for the purpose of enhanced electoral clout."

You understand the mechanism well but not the direction. The slave-owning (Democrats) in the South would have been perfectly happy with counting each slave as a full person in the Census and the Constitution. (They were not going to vote in either event.) It was the non-slave-owning states in the North that did not want them counted at all, because they knew it would give the Southern states more seats in Congress. So they compromised with 3/5 of a person.

The same would be true today if the illegal aliens were concentrated in Red States only and counting them gave exaggerated or inflated representation in Congress. Supposedly, they will not (normally) be permitted to vote anyway, since they are foreign citizens and having the question on the Census does not keep them from being counted. The Democrats are only worried that the Census might be used to enforce the immigration laws or the question might cause the illegals to avoid being counted.

Like I mentioned, it is mainly geo-political and geographic. If the illegals were only in Red states, the Democrats would be insisting that they not be counted at all.

Blogger Longtime Lurker April 08, 2018 7:39 PM  

@116: And a piece of the larger puzzle becomes clearer. Thank you.

Blogger DonReynolds April 08, 2018 7:58 PM  

@113 Unknown
"We have no fear of Indians and Chinese oppression. We know them. It's not a fight against them. As it always was, it's a fight against NE Puritans who want control.

Trump is a warning, not sign. As it always was, it's a fight between Puritans versus Normans. And after 1000 years, we're tired of your shit."

Very good, whoever you are. I have made that same point here for years. The source of radicalism in the USA has ALWAYS been the Puritans in the Northeast....and to the extent that they migrated west to the Pacific coast. These have always been the radicals who insisted on governing the other states that were not following their worldview. Not just on the issue of slavery, but also open borders, and womens suffrage, prohibition, "civil rights", sexual orientation, and many other campaigns. These were the troublemakers, the rabble rousers, the reformers. (These were also the revolutionaries.) They were the same way back during the English Civil War.

There is clearly something in the mindset of these control freaks that compels them to extend their power over people in the other states. Had they simply focused on making their own utopias in the North, there would never have been a problem. But that is never enough for these people....and they are very proud of their record as radicals.

Blogger Patrick Kelly April 08, 2018 7:59 PM  

" I think the fact that they are personally armed has led many Americans into a false sense of complacency about the sustainability of their nation. "

Especially when many of them only talk about burying and hiding their guns if confiscation begins, saying they will dig them up "when the time comes".

Problem is if it's time to bury them, it's already time to shoot someone.

I'm still a bit perplexed and unsure of anything to do with any reasonable expectation of success. There's got to be some opportunities (involving shooting or not) between burying them and charging across open battlefields with an AR or AK in my hands facing Abrams and Apache's screaming "freeeedummmmb". How to recognize such opportunities baffles me.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 08, 2018 8:33 PM  

@36

"It's 100% a will problem. Americans are so individualistic that they can't even comprehend the huge individual sacrifices necessary to conduct war. "What's in it for me?" they say."

There's a solution.

Phone-bsaed cameras are ubiquitous.

You *MUST* record yourself committing one pro-civilizational act of violence each month.... or get the beat-down.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 08, 2018 8:37 PM  

@119

"
I'm still a bit perplexed and unsure of anything to do with any reasonable expectation of success. There's got to be some opportunities (involving shooting or not) between burying them and charging across open battlefields with an AR or AK in my hands facing Abrams and Apache's screaming "freeeedummmmb". How to recognize such opportunities baffles me."


If you're charging across an open field, with ANY weapon, you're as dumb as the senior commanders on the Western Front in WW1.

Learn some freaking fire-and-movement techniques, taking advantage of terrain, leap-frogging in a 3-5 second rush while your battle-buddy provides covering fire. Then he does the same as YOU provide covering fire. This technique is 100 years old now, AND STILL THE PRIMARY TECHNIQUE FOR INFANTRY TO CLOSE WITH THE ENEMY.

Blogger DonReynolds April 08, 2018 9:13 PM  

The Easter Rebellion in Ireland in 1916 was a total fiasco and the 17 leaders were shot by firing squad, the ones who surrendered spent time in British prisons.... but they came back in 1919 and declared independence and won Free State by treaty in 1921.

They did not win with banzai charges.

Read about the 12 Apostles, who selectively assassinated key British and disloyal Irish figures and forced the British government to negotiate a treaty.

Blogger Aeoli Pera April 08, 2018 10:20 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:@36

"It's 100% a will problem. Americans are so individualistic that they can't even comprehend the huge individual sacrifices necessary to conduct war. "What's in it for me?" they say."

There's a solution.

Phone-bsaed cameras are ubiquitous.

You *MUST* record yourself committing one pro-civilizational act of violence each month.... or get the beat-down.


That would actually work, but there's a problem with identification. Either you can verify it, in which case the authorities can also verify it, or not. So you're asking everybody to take the hard choice, all at once. Big relative status boost for individuals to defect. The social mood isn't low enough at this point, but that will probably be viable in ten years.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 08, 2018 10:39 PM  

Patrick Kelly wrote:There's got to be some opportunities (involving shooting or not) between burying them and charging across open battlefields with an AR or AK in my hands facing Abrams and Apache's screaming "freeeedummmmb". How to recognize such opportunities baffles me.

How did the Cong do it? How are the Iraqis doing it? Not by getting together in large, easily blown up groups and standing and fighting.

The irregulars succeeded because snitches got stitches, or just plain killed, and because anyone who collaborated with the US risked his own life and his family's lives. The US presence was enough to ensure a continuing stream of provocations which justified the irregulars' impositions; the irregulars made sure of that.

How did the US prevail, to the extent that it did? Only the point of the spear was in the fray, and the entire logistics tail was in other countries. The irregulars could not stop the flow of fresh troops and material, could not threaten the troops' families, couldn't sabotage the US equipment.

Would that be the case if American troops were attacking Americans in America?

DonReynolds wrote:Read about the 12 Apostles, who selectively assassinated key British and disloyal Irish figures and forced the British government to negotiate a treaty

And there is the real answer: not guerrilla war, but a few little people killing a few big people.

Anonymous Anonymous April 09, 2018 6:02 AM  

@80 "The same thing that made the soviet-union a paper tiger."

But literally none of the factors you listed had anything whatsoever to do with the collapse of USSR, the primary reason for which was overall population dropping to and below 50% Russian, and the secondary reason was an economic system that either directly antagonized all people with energy and talent to achieve something or trained them in hypocrisy and double-dealing if they decided to seek a career in the state structures.

And most of these factors, such as elites who openly hate their own country, and increasingly oppressive surveillance are clearly present in the West to much greater extent compared to China.

Blogger Pale Male April 09, 2018 12:32 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:There is clearly something in the mindset of these control freaks that compels them to extend their power over people in the other states. Had they simply focused on making their own utopias in the North, there would never have been a problem. But that is never enough for these people....and they are very proud of their record as radicals.
The obvious affection that Eric Flint shows for Boston Brahmins in "1632" is very sinister when you look at them that way.

Blogger Longtime Lurker April 09, 2018 3:59 PM  

@118: My Puritan ancestors were Norman before they became English - 1066 and all that. At least that's what the family "history" says. Guess you could say they were just passing through on their way to the New World.

BTW, the wife of a certain editor at Tor Books also claims Puritan ancestry.

http://nielsenhayden.com/genealogy-tng/index.php

Explains much, no?

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