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Tuesday, April 10, 2018

Voxiversity 005

The fifth Voxiversity video is now live! This is the topic selected by the backers in March and is called Why Western Civilization Needs Christianity. As the subject turned out to be a rather large one, this is part one of two.


Episode Five: Why Western Civilization Needs Christianity

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56 Comments:

Blogger Al From Bay Shore April 10, 2018 9:29 PM  

Liking this video!

Blogger Quilp April 10, 2018 9:41 PM  

Your best yet. I really enjoyed it.
I have a question, and you probably covered it elsewhere, where do you see Spain & it's colonies as fitting in to "Western Civilization"? I ask because I've wondered it myself, and I do remember you mentioning how Western society was unique( or at least different) in it's nuclear family approach, instead of the extended family, like Spain was still using at the time of its colonization of Central & South America.

Blogger Crew April 10, 2018 9:47 PM  

I just saw it come up.

It is amusing that women in the West do not recognize that Christianity is far kinder to them than any of the other religions are.

Blogger Crew April 10, 2018 9:48 PM  

@1: Are you in Silicon Valley?

Blogger MendoScot April 10, 2018 9:49 PM  

Superb Vox, you dug deep for this one.

It's going to enrage a lot of people, but you hit the key points that no one who is taking seriously the reproducibility crisis can deny - it's not the method, whose limitations have always been known, it's the scientists themselves. Modern science was built on the shoulders of giants, humble enough to know that.

The vanity of moderns and post-moderns thinking that they are the heritors of that tradition and can can do without may well destroy the work of centuries. I hope not, but it is in play.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah April 10, 2018 9:50 PM  

How to explode the head of a scientism believer: "Science is fundamentally dependent upon Christianity"

Blogger Desdichado April 10, 2018 9:57 PM  

@2 Quilp: check out the Sam Huntington essay Clash of Civilizations. It should be freely available online in many places. For more detail read hbd chicks blog keyword searches Hajnal line and outbreeding project.

Blogger Desdichado April 10, 2018 10:01 PM  

@2 Quilp: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/1993-06-01/clash-civilizations

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Blogger David Rohm April 10, 2018 10:16 PM  

Been meaning to start classes for a while.

5 minutes in, I’m hooked. Nothing you (and you crew) do is half-ass.



Anonymous Anonymous April 10, 2018 10:19 PM  

Vox, that was excellent, thank you.

Concerning Spain and her colonies. While I believe the Spanish Homeland is part of 'The West', her former colonies are more of a mixed bag.

Argentina and Chile seem very western, but countries like Mexico that are more strongly rooted in the Aboriginal Nations that preceded the arrival of the Spanish Conquerors are much less so.

--ZhukovG

Blogger Ahärôwn April 10, 2018 10:20 PM  

Excellent video, Vox. Fine premise, and I look forward to part II.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd April 10, 2018 10:20 PM  

Very compelling. This is a lot of content packed into a relatively brief summary, which is great.
It's hard to see how it could be improved, given that it's already amazingly effective for. Like the last one, the video provoked quite a bit of thought.

In addition to the charge of ignorance Dawkins, Hitchens, et al lay at the feet of Christianity, is their insisting that it's a source of violence. When you contrast European societies before Christianity versus after, like in the video, this is revealed to be nonsense.
But what they really don't grasp, is that the entire notion of "Peace," as a desirable end-state, rather than a brief interlude between conflicts, comes exclusively from the "Peace and Truce of God" movement, when the Church began to subordinate the violent tendencies of the warrior aristocracy to her ethical precepts. Chivalry, which was originally a rejection of the slaughter of priests, nuns, monks, peasants, women, and the elderly, comes from that same movement. The Church placed limits on who was a legitimate combatant, as well as when and where battles could be fought.

It's ironic, but the crusades Dawkins rails about, as well as our western concept of peace, come from the same source. Urban II wanted to aid the Byzantines, but the Peace and Truce already provided him with a precedent in encouraging warfare against religious enemies, rather than constant warfare against coreligionists, which was the original state of things.

Dawkins sees the Crusades as the ultimate in chaotic, ignorant holy war, when it was an actual step forward towards peace, given the tribalistic, endemic squabbles of the destroyers of the Western Empire.

The video captured the link between science and Christianity so well, that I wanted to add my 2 cents.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd April 10, 2018 10:22 PM  

It's neat that you brought Huntington up. I was trying to explain VD's writing to a friend of mine, and described him as the Huntington of the current time.

Blogger Quilp April 10, 2018 10:33 PM  

@ 8- Thanks!

Blogger VFM April 10, 2018 10:38 PM  

Best one yet. Production quality continues to improve and though Vox isn't as smooth as Neil deGrasse Tyson he is certainly looking more and more comfortable in front of the camera. This is a TED talk on steroids.

Blogger RC April 10, 2018 10:43 PM  

Well done Vox. Over the years I have come to greatly admire your drive to start something where you're at and then continuously improve.

Blogger Samuel Nock April 10, 2018 10:45 PM  

Excellent and timely video.

There continue to be attacks on Christianity, not just from the multicult Left but also from within the Alt Right itself. Disappointingly, Ricardo Duchesne’s Alt Right-ish website Council of European Canadians recently began publishing a series of lengthy articles attacking Christianity by an author writing under the name Ferdinand Bardamu (almost certainly not Matt Forney, who previously used the same pseudonym). Duchesne is the author of The Uniqueness of Western Civilization, so it is surprising and disappointing that he is allowing his website to air articles that are so hostile to Christianity. (Duchesne more recently published Faustian Man in a Multicultural Age, so perhaps he is more anti-Christian than I realized.)

Links to the articles in question below if people want to leave comments there, many of which are critical of the essays.

https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2018/04/why-europeans-must-reject-christianity.html

https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2018/04/why-europeans-must-reject-christianity_9.html

Blogger Lamarck Leland April 10, 2018 10:51 PM  

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Blogger D. April 10, 2018 11:00 PM  

Very good.

Blogger Ahärôwn April 10, 2018 11:31 PM  

Samuel Nock wrote:

Disappointingly, Ricardo Duchesne’s Alt Right-ish website Council of European Canadians recently began publishing a series of lengthy articles attacking Christianity by an author writing under the name Ferdinand Bardamu.


Glancing through the two essays, the second one ends with some trans-humanist claptrap about breeding the ideal Aryan human. Ironic in light of Vox's video, really.


Pity that Duchesne allows alt-retards to write articles for his site. I suspect that won't end well, particularly if he finds them running riot in the comment section.

Thankfully, right now the essays are being panned in the comment sections by those more knowledgeable than the writer.

Blogger Shawn Hetherington April 10, 2018 11:40 PM  

Really excellent stuff here!! Thanks so much!

Blogger Crew April 10, 2018 11:42 PM  

A great video, and I liked the music choices from the greats of the West.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd April 11, 2018 12:11 AM  

These people clinging to the 1930s and 1940s are fools.
Breeding the ideal Aryan man; talk about a host of unforeseen consequences.

Blogger Claudio April 11, 2018 12:37 AM  

Vox, you have a great mind, and as such i think that you'll some day become Catholic and defend the Church with all your intellectual might. Scott Hahn did so. I believe you one day will.

Blogger SBS April 11, 2018 12:46 AM  

Long time lurker here. Fantastic video and great work as always, VD. I agree with all your main points, but I'm having trouble finding information on a point you made about rape in other societies.

Could you point me in the direction of sources I could read concerning societies that consider rape a property crime, specifically in Buddhism and Japanese society? I did some cursory research but I'm having trouble finding a good source.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook April 11, 2018 12:57 AM  

Cant wait for part two

Blogger LP999-16 April 11, 2018 3:43 AM  

Wonderful listening, emailed it to all my contact list.

(You mean 2012's in mala fide's Ferdinand Bardamu aka another great writer Matt Forney? Strange days but I doubt Forney would write against Christianity. I recall him promoting healthy CCD.)

Blogger Killua April 11, 2018 3:49 AM  

Great video. I like the part when it talks about the core concept that each individual has an intrinsic value by virtue of its immortal soul.

Keep up the great work!

Blogger Samuel Nock April 11, 2018 4:16 AM  

No, it is not Matt Forney writing as Ferdinand Bardamu. Someone else using the same pseudonym.

Blogger bethyada April 11, 2018 4:39 AM  

First Voxiversity for me. Sound quality fine. Audio video delay in some of the splices though.

Agree with the content generally. A few thoughts.

You have European nations as a pillar. Although I agree with that, I suspect that this comes out of the Christianisation of Europe. Western Civilisation is to a large extent Christendom.

I agree that rape was seen as a property crime, I have heard this was the case even in Europe some centuries ago. I suspect it was a little more complicated though. I disagree about your comments concerning the Old Testament. The Mosaic Laws and especially the case of Amnon and Tamar suggest a crime against the girl, not just property. So I think ancient Hebrews had a similar (though distinct) concept.

On Christianity and science there is enough material available to push that line even harder. As well as the significant technological advancements in Christian Europe independent of the scientific method. The modern science argument is true as you presented it, though there is a further direction that one could take it: that is, modern science is dependent on the arguments of the early scientists you mentioned. Not only were they Christian as you point out, they believed what they did because of Christian philosophy. The world is understandable, laws are discoverable, experiments are reproducible, the mind can reason. These are philosophical concepts that are external to science. They are not empirical. They are a consequence of Christian worldview and most definitely cannot be derived from an atheistic perspective.

Blogger VD April 11, 2018 5:23 AM  

The Mosaic Laws and especially the case of Amnon and Tamar suggest a crime against the girl, not just property. So I think ancient Hebrews had a similar (though distinct) concept.

Read the Bible again.

You have European nations as a pillar. Although I agree with that, I suspect that this comes out of the Christianisation of Europe.

No, definitely not. Western civilization did not rise out of Christianity in the Middle East, and Christianity has proved insufficient to transform Africa and South America into Western civilization.

On Christianity and science there is enough material available to push that line even harder.

I am already pushing it much harder than virtually anyone else. One can't simply leap to the most extreme conclusion and convince those who are still caught up in the false Christianity vs Science narrative.

there is a further direction that one could take it: that is, modern science is dependent on the arguments of the early scientists you mentioned. Not only were they Christian as you point out, they believed what they did because of Christian philosophy.

I did point that out.

Blogger Aeoli April 11, 2018 5:31 AM  

Excellent.

Blogger Slen April 11, 2018 7:03 AM  

Your Voxiversity videos just keep getting better and better! Very informative. I use your stuff as often as I can in helping to spread your message to those around me. Thank you for all you do!

Blogger Tank April 11, 2018 7:04 AM  

Just noting that Dennis Prager always makes this point too relating to America.

Blogger tz April 11, 2018 7:32 AM  

If you can overlook some of the Catholic Triumphalism,
Catholic Republic goes into a parallel argument and why the USA is breaking down - Natural Law goes back to Aquinas, Augustine, and Aristotle. But both the Enlightenment and the Reformation reject Natural Law. Chapter 6 is on Science. He is a bit more ascerbic, but his point is that the Catholic principles of Natural Law is what undergird and made the declaration and constitution work, so that by denying that, or substituting something or accepting the Caholic view without giving credit (Even today, Chuck Baldwin who is in the line of the back robed regiment keeps talking about natural law).

TL;DR - just read chapter 0 which is included in the free sample as he lays out the case. Chapter 4 is about sacramental life which is pushing things, but the rest is more direct.

In addition Evolution 2.0 basically explains the problem with the lack of science, and there is a prize if you can find a naturally occuring CODE other than DNA. The author was interviewed recently by Jason Stapleton and went into detail as well. But in sum, what you learn in the textbooks about gradualism is wrong, cells can and do rewrite their DNA through at least 5 known mechanisms.

Blogger tz April 11, 2018 7:34 AM  

Correction, Evolution 2.0 book link

Blogger tz April 11, 2018 7:59 AM  

Let me give my somewhat less triumphalist view. When this country was founded, they looked to the enlightenment and the (protestant take on the) Bible, but also went back to pure philosophy - reason and evidence, so wired Natural Law - that nature is knowable, we have (true) free wills, and has a purpose and points to God/Truth.

The manner in building in the Natural Law was similar to where many Protestants celebrate Christmas (Cromwell banned it!), for a long while stopped tolerating divorce, and slowly added back parts of the hull that they thought were barnacles. Natural law is one such.

But it doesn't stay solid when it is not acknowledged or the origin and even that it is "Natural Law" isn't acknowledged. It is the Catholics on the Supreme Court that are the originalists.

In politics, science, etc. you need Boethius, Aquinas, Augusting, etc. at least in their ideas which are mainly a refinement of Greek Philosophy, mixing enough Divine Revelation to create a system where a republic can flourish. Papist or Romish? Perhaps, but is it true?

Similarly to how it is best to have a lent, culminating in remembering the Cross and Resurrection once a year (and why not when it happened on the original calendar?) instead of trying to remember these things at random points during the year. You don't have to be Catholic to preach the Resurrection on Easter.

You don't have to be Catholic to believe in a rational nature, with free will, and a Telos. But you need to believe in the teachings, because they affect what Truth is knowable, how it is known, and why it is important to know it. What can and OUGHT be engineered (else we get Buck v. Bell).

Christianity is like the astygmatism glasses that brings the european pagan virtues, and the law and philosophy and ancient science which we perceived "through a glass darkly" into sharp focus. Without it, you are not going to be able to focus clearly even if you can see light and dark.

Christianity makes the rules of God and Truth, and Creation - Nature clear, making Natural Law percievable in detail. That is one of the points of Abolition of Man by Lewis. The Natural Law (he calls it the Tao) is the master rulebook. You have a free will so don't have to play by it, but things won't work very well if at all.

And one point that struck me in the Voxideo. Christianity established the personhood and dignity of woman, romantic love, and the grave evil of rape. Today we have feminists with rape fantasies hooking up and desiring to be ravished while marching for getting an OK for each step.

Blogger tz April 11, 2018 8:11 AM  

Conversely, Christianity can baptize and save souls in China, but another book I've just read, What's Wrong with China explains the deeply rooted differences in culture and mentions what original Christian missionaries found.

And Chinese are becoming Christians, but that won't turn into Western Civilization. Christ turns european honesty into candor, but Chinese equivocation, indirection, etc. might or might not be turned into clear, honest answers. Western fatalism is that we can't fully create the City of God here, but we ought to see how close we can get since fate is linear. The Chinese see cycles, so whatever is built will fall, so other than for face, why go beyond a facade?

Another point are the sections on their legal system which is not quite opposite, but even with Christ, it won't be western jurisprudence nor will they accept western philosophy. There might be more justice and mercy from a Christian judge in China, but it will be a different kind than here.

So you do need all three pillars.

(I also noted the Japanese are different, but in the sense that Italians are different from Norwegians - the Japanese added certain western elements that were compatible with their culture, but it is still not Western Civilization - no more than Americans in America in Kimonos with Katanas doing a Tea Ceremony have Eastern Civilization).

Blogger Samuel Nock April 11, 2018 8:14 AM  

I will admit -- at around 10min 35sec into the video -- to gripping the arm-rests of my chair in anticipatory horror at the prospect that Vox was on the cusp of uttering the words "scientody" and "scientistry".

Thankfully, he showed restraint in this video aimed at normies. lol

Blogger VD April 11, 2018 8:23 AM  

Thankfully, he showed restraint in this video aimed at normies.

I am willing to accommodate the medium. What I find irritating is when people try to tell me how I should be articulating my thoughts. The neologisms are absolutely necessary for clear thinking and communication, and anyone who cannot grasp that does not possess an opinion to which one should listen.

But these videos have a very different purpose, so I do not mind the lack of clarity, since it is essentially dictated by the medium.

Blogger Samuel Nock April 11, 2018 8:29 AM  

"The neologisms are absolutely necessary for clear thinking and communication"

Definitely. That is why the thought occurred to me as I was watching.

But you made the right call given the purpose of these videos!!

Blogger Chris Gallo April 11, 2018 9:00 AM  

Excellent. Sadly, it is my Christian multi-culturist friends I intend to share it with, first.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 11, 2018 12:48 PM  

VD wrote:The neologisms are absolutely necessary for clear thinking and communication, and anyone who cannot grasp that does not possess an opinion to which one should listen.
Strictly speaking, each could be replaced with a phrase, but that would not be an actual improvement in the precision or comprehensibility of the argument. And it would get old very quickly.
Anyone who can't accept the coining of a neologism to more precisely express a thought has no business reading philosophy anyway. Everyone, Aristotle, Aquinas, Decartes, even that old fraud Marx is forced to coin a term at some points.

Blogger AaMcavoy April 11, 2018 1:40 PM  

Holy cow. That was amazing.

Blogger Adlow April 11, 2018 2:36 PM  

Well done. This does a good job of reminding right-leaning atheists and seculars where their heritage lies, and how much they owe to Christianity.

I never quite agreed with one pillar of the West being Greco-Roman heritage. Greek thought had plenty of influence on Roman and modern philosophers alike, but Greece never had the same cultural impact that Rome did. Greek influence was the result of direct imitation, while Roman influence came through military, commercial, and legal institutions that existed continuously from antiquity up to the present.

The definition of the West that I have always preferred, which takes the three pillars as a given, is Latin Christendom and its diaspora. This is how the medievals saw things in their time, recognizing great differences between themselves and Eastern Christians in everything from family formation to the theological grounding of the state.

Blogger Latigo3 April 11, 2018 2:47 PM  

Well done

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. April 11, 2018 3:49 PM  

I just shared the fuck out of this

Blogger Nell Fenwick April 11, 2018 8:41 PM  

Dude, do you ever wear anything but tees?
Try looking a little more professional.
Also, use a British accent. They make a person sound educated, one with wisdom. Like that Molyneux guy. Other than those two observations, good job.

Blogger John Best April 11, 2018 9:38 PM  

Excellent high quality work.

Blogger Carl Philipp April 11, 2018 9:59 PM  

I enjoyed it, except for the bit with the Fruits of the Spirit... That particular style of Christian... cheerleading? Always inflicts a rather severe sympathetic embarrassment, from the sheer horror of imagining being cajoled into participating in such a thing.

I'd never made the connection between the corruption of science and the Great Apostasy; I had always assumed that it was a result of affirmative action. But the inherent shift from being motivated by wanting to understand the world God has made, to being motivated by wanting to please one's financial donors, is a compelling explanation.

Blogger Michael Maier April 11, 2018 11:03 PM  

Crew wrote:I just saw it come up.

It is amusing that women in the West do not recognize that Christianity is far kinder to them than any of the other religions are.



I have found this astounding for years.

To see FEMINISTS lauding Muslims... (and the fags too) is just painful for my brain to apprehend.

Blogger tz April 11, 2018 11:17 PM  

I have to admit it. In my heart I'm a Civic Nationalist. But not in my head.

Supra, I've noted one of the keys of Natural Law was free will. I do believe Africans, and Asians have free will, and reject Calvinistic "election".

But the key for our Republic has two parts. First Christianity, Christ, Faith, Salvation, etc. is NECESSARY but NOT SUFFICIENT. You can be perfectly moral in a pagan republic, and not even persecuted. The ethno-European culture and civic system (virtues? - the law and custom) are ALSO REQUIRED. A prospective citizen (civic N.) must use his free will for both and succeed.

The second part is to consider if Arnold Schwarzenegger could finish a Marathon. Yes, if he willed it, but it would require much effort, pain, training, etc. His body is not the lithe Kenyan who is natural to it, nor is he youthful. So you do have people who do so like Ayn Rand who experienced Communism and became Libertarian, but normally the roots can't go too deep in a different culture. Even if you took an African or Asian infant and raised him/her in a Jeffersonial household, they would still have to fight their genetically inspired tendencies with the full force of their free will (and not have a lot left over). Same with Jews. "Can they" and "Will they" are different but not unrelated questions which are synthesized as "Do they have the willpower to suffer to completely achieve it?".

The "completely" is also key. "A republic if you can keep it" can also be revised as "A Republic unless it is too hard", or "A Republic until we need to do some good which is not allowed".

In a town of all whites, 90% will quickly and easily adopt the American Republic paradigm, perhaps even 1.0 (most people don't worry about small and mainly philosophical differences).

In a state of all blacks, well 95% voted for Doug Jones over Roy Moore.

The final element for any Civic Nationalism to work is for there to be Michael Archangels to cast out Devils. Fine, don't discriminate, but when anyone rapes, shoots, cheats, etc. they must be removed - quarantined (prison or deportation) or executed. Are you really willing to do this to "minorities" without hesitation or mercy? I've yet to hear a single civic nationalist express the justice which would require bloodthirsty language in any other context. They will complain about the alt-right. With much goading they will agree that you can't have dindu-nuffins (of any race) in the midst of a civil society. But when asked how to insure they are no longer present?...

Blogger Mark Jones April 12, 2018 5:14 AM  

Kudos. This video was fantastic. It is the best material on this topic I have ever seen. It has provided me additional impetus to have daily Bible reading and to develop the fruits of the Spirit.

Blogger SirHamster April 12, 2018 3:22 PM  

Carl Philipp wrote:I enjoyed it, except for the bit with the Fruits of the Spirit... That particular style of Christian... cheerleading? Always inflicts a rather severe sympathetic embarrassment, from the sheer horror of imagining being cajoled into participating in such a thing.

With the cut to Vox's face after that fruity interlude, I wonder if he too is a victim of a behind the scenes video editor, or if this is an AWCA at work.

Blogger Pale Male April 14, 2018 7:20 PM  

Before I add my own thoughts and analysis, I would like to post this transcript of your part of the video from about 10:09 to the outtro.  Please correct me if any of the following is not right.
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People who are actually going back and taking the trouble to try to reproduce the results that scientists are reporting as "scientific fact" are not able to reproduce it. In fact, the majority of the time the results that are claimed in these peer-reviewed, professionally-published papers, in reputable journals, are false. They cannot reproduce more than fifty percent of the published science that is tested. And this is the GOOD stuff. And it gets worse. "Nature" did a poll in 2016. They surveyed 1500 scientists (that) they found out that 70% of them were unable to reproduce experiments that other scientists had published. But even worse, fifty percent of them couldn't reproduce successfully their own experiments.

So, the idea that you're going to be able to rely upon a method that most of the time is inaccurate and false is ludicrous. When you're dealing with a secular scientist who has tremendous incentive to falsify results, or to simply put a little thumb on the scale, or to make sure that he finds the results that the people funding him want to find, you have a problem.

Now I'm not saying that a scientist is necessarily going to... is any more likely to lie, or cheat, or falsify data, than anyone else. But here's the thing: When you do not have a religious incentive to tell the truth, and you have a tremendous financial incentive to not tell the truth, can we really be surprised when these professional scientists find a way to fudge things just a little bit to make sure the results come out the way that gets them published, that gets them paid.

So that's why we're seeing this crisis in science is because we are seeing fewer Christians in science. Oh, Christians lie, Christians sin, this is all true. But you cannot claim logically or with a straight face that is is unlikely for there to be a connection to removing this religious incentive to tell the truth, replacing it with a financial incentive to not tell the truth, and then discover magically that these scientists are not telling the truth. So, now, this is not a conclusive case, I admit that. But, I am simply pointing out that there is reason to believe that contra the assumptions of those who believe that science and religion, that science and Christianity are at war, I submit that science needs Christianity or at least something that serves as an adequate substitute in order to avert what we're seeing as the reproducibility crisis. The post-Christianity of the scientific community is one of the biggest dangers to science that exists today. ====================================================

I think that's as close as I can get, word for word and including hesitations.  Will you stipulate to its accuracy?

Blogger Joe Katzman April 15, 2018 6:25 PM  

Pale Male, I listened to the video while reading your text and you're very close. An "is" needs to become "it," remove the brackets around one word, and there's a "you know" that improves accuracy but could be elided.

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People who are actually going back and taking the trouble to try to reproduce the results that scientists are reporting as "scientific fact" are not able to reproduce it. In fact, the majority of the time the results that are claimed in these peer-reviewed, professionally-published papers, in reputable journals, are false. They cannot reproduce more than fifty percent of the published science that is tested. And this is the GOOD stuff. And it gets worse. "Nature" did a poll in 2016. They surveyed 1500 scientists that they found out that 70% of them were unable to reproduce experiments that other scientists had published. But even worse, fifty percent of them couldn't reproduce successfully their OWN experiments.

So, the idea that you're going to be able to rely upon a method that most of the time is inaccurate and false is ludicrous. When you're dealing with a secular scientist who has tremendous incentive to falsify results, or to simply put a little thumb on the scale, or to make sure that he finds the results that the people funding him want to find, you have a problem.

Now I'm not saying that a scientist is necessarily going to... you know, is any more likely to lie, or cheat, or falsify data, than anyone else. But here's the thing: When you do not have a religious incentive to tell the truth, and you have a tremendous financial incentive to not tell the truth, can we really be surprised when these professional scientists find a way to fudge things just a little bit to make sure the results come out the way that gets them published, that gets them paid.

So that's why we're seeing this crisis in science is because we are seeing fewer Christians in science. Oh, Christians lie, Christians sin, this is all true. But you cannot claim logically or with a straight face that it is unlikely for there to be a connection to removing this religious incentive to tell the truth, replacing it with a financial incentive to not tell the truth, and then discover magically that these scientists are not telling the truth. So, now, this is not a conclusive case, I admit that. But, I am simply pointing out that there is reason to believe that contra the assumptions of those who believe that science and religion, that science and Christianity are at war, I submit that science needs Christianity or at least something that serves as an adequate substitute in order to avert what we're seeing as the reproducibility crisis. The post-Christianity of the scientific community is one of the biggest dangers to science that exists today.

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