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Friday, May 18, 2018

A misrepresentation by Sargon

The Public Space asserts that my fellow GamerGater misrepresented me in a YouTube video entitled Sargon Misrepresents Vox Day About Jordan Peterson:
Sargon of Akkad is ruining my name now because there's text that I've written which says Sargon of Akkad is solid, he always fairly represents even his opponent, but on a video published two days ago he misrepresents Vox Day, presenting his blog post as attributing a communist conspiracy to Jordan Peterson, which is not at all what Vox Day was saying. Let's hear the statement by Sargon:

So in the last few days an Alt-Right science fiction author called Vox day on his blog has exposed Jordan Peterson being involved with a new global partnership to eradicate poverty and transform across economies through sustainable development, which I guess is some communist globalist conspiracy or something. I haven't bother looking into it, I don't even care if he's associated with it.

"So I guess it's a communist globalist conspiracy or something like this, I didn't look into it." If you want to make a video about this subject - and then Sargon goes on, by the way, to counter the point that he imagines Vox Day may have done while he admittedly didn't read the article. Of course, the article by Vox Day was not saying that Jordan Peterson is involved in a communist conspiracy. The point by Sargon passes right beside the point made by Vox Day.

The point made by Vox Day is that Jordan Peterson is involved in international conferences that talk about immigration, that seek to open countries to immigration, and that also featured speakers like John Podesta with a known share from the Democratic Party. He is the gateway for the control of the Democratic Party by rich elites and so this is a fair critique that Vox Day has done of Jordan Peterson, and Sargon misrepresents it as a paranoid representation of Jordan Peterson being involved in a communist conspiracy.
They go into more detail; watch the video from 36:06 to 41:00 to catch their whole take on it. And JFG is absolutely right; if one is going to opine on a paper, one has the duty to actually read it. It is because Sargon disagrees with me that he really ought to do better. As he would learn if he actually bothered to look into the matter, Jordan Peterson is involved in the opposite of a godless communist conspiracy, he is the author of the narrative for a massive globalist corporatist campaign that involves governments, NGOs, international corporations, and academics.

But Sargon isn't the only Peterson defender determined to avert his eyes rather than discover what the Prophet of Do What Thou Deemest to be Desirable is actually doing. One poor Jordanologist who is destined for disenchantment was clearly grasping at straws when he decided to advocate for the devil.
Devil's Advocate for a moment: The UN's IPCC report had many scientists ask to have their names removed because they disagreed with the conclusions and how the report was being used for political purposes.  Do you think that could be the case here? That JP was a "contributor" the UN report, but if you asked him about it, he would disagree with its conclusions?
No, that cannot be the case here. Given that Jordan Peterson himself publicly claimed to have written the narrative of the final draft, from which he removed "the ideological claptrap" contained in the previous drafts, there can be no question that he is not only a full-blown supporter of A New Global Partnership, but that whatever ideology remains in it is something with which he, at the very least, has no problem. Read the report; it's only 81 pages and it's considerably easier to read than either 12 Rules of Life or Maps of Meaning.

This whole Jordanetics affair reminds me more and more of the New Atheists. Then, as now, I appear to have read considerably more of their works than any of their fans appear to have bothered reading.

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Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 18, 2018 7:18 AM  

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Blogger Rocklea Marina May 18, 2018 7:44 AM  

Sargon of Akkad(The Soy Father):
"Jordan, dude, I love you so much..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F17WRYklkTw

The tenets of Jordanetics are not opposed to Liberalists ideals. He has The Soy Fathers seal of approval. "He's just the best."

Blogger tz May 18, 2018 7:51 AM  

The Soyim know!
Sargon similarly takes on SJWs, but can't handle a debate, the most memorable was with Richard Spencer, moderated by one of the You Tube channels that schedules these kinds of debates. Sargon's fanbois said he did well, but almost no one else did. He kept straw-manning and changing the definitions like Peterson does.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums May 18, 2018 7:53 AM  

Apropo of the "How to spot a charlatan" post, Sargon is notorious for using second-hand sources. He posits himself as this well read speaker, constantly attacking others with brilliant retorts like "have you even read [X]?" which funny enough has become a meme. But thing is Sargon actually believes his own BS. Jordan Peterson is disingenuous where Sargon is deluded.

He declared war on the Alt-Right just because they made fun of him. /pol/ has Shia Labeouf, the Al-Right has Sargon. He is a godsend, I have seen apolitical people rally behind the Alt-Right just to laugh at the poor guy.

To get a taste how deluded this man is he once stated that because he was raising his wife's daughter it means that he's the one cucking the other guy.

Blogger The Lizard King May 18, 2018 7:59 AM  

Ah, Sargon Of Akkad. I started out watching him back when I was first culturally and politically awokened back in Gamergate. At this point I given up on him and his liberal friends, for people who's idealogy paved the way for the SJWs, they seem completely unaware of their own shortcomings and hostile to the idea that society needs Christian traditions and virtues to thrive.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira May 18, 2018 8:11 AM  

Sargon isn't even a seventh rate intellectual.

Blogger Nate May 18, 2018 8:12 AM  

"The Soyim know!"

ok i laughed. I admit it.

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 18, 2018 8:17 AM  

"Jordan Peterson is involved in the opposite of a godless communist conspiracy, he is the author of the narrative for a massive globalist corporatist campaign that involves governments, NGOs, international corporations, and academics."

... and most of the churches, too.

Does that make it more or less godless?

Blogger Teleros May 18, 2018 8:17 AM  

Wuzzums Fuzzums wrote:To get a taste how deluded this man is he once stated that because he was raising his wife's daughter it means that he's the one cucking the other guy.

Pretty sure he's got his own child. The worse one IMHO was when he claimed to be 1/4 or 1/8 black, based on a grandfather coming from St Helena and being maybe of mixed heritage or something. Other than that though... well he has his blind spots, and not surprisingly I disagree with him over a lot of stuff, but has always struck me as a kind of basically decent, centre-left midwit. He's pro-Brexit, lukewarm on Trump, anti-immigration, and pro-free speech (even for us) though, so... yeah. I think Wuzzums has it right when he calls him deluded (ie, just wrong) rather than disingenuous (ie, malicious) like JBP.

Blogger VD May 18, 2018 8:20 AM  

Does that make it more or less godless?

Less godless. More satanic.

Blogger Samuel Nock May 18, 2018 8:26 AM  

A British accent really goes a long way in leading U.S. midwits to take someone seriously as an intellectual.

See: Fry, Stephen.

Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 18, 2018 8:29 AM  

>Sargon isn't even a seventh rate intellectual.

Doesn't matter. More arguments and more videos mean acceleration of the unraveling of the NWO shill Peterson tapestry. Fingers crossed for the Soy Father making a pathetic reply video.

Blogger VD May 18, 2018 8:33 AM  

A British accent really goes a long way in leading U.S. midwits to take someone seriously as an intellectual.

No question. It really does.

Blogger Uncle John's Band May 18, 2018 8:37 AM  

Reading the various "defenses" of JBP (which are really just vague hand waving plus unsubstantiated ad hominem attacks on Vox), the reluctance to engage any of the arguments dialectically is striking in its consistency. MPAI is assumed, but it's notable that for all their bleating, NO Peterson defenders have attempted a substantive rebuttal.

The approaches are very reminiscent of SJWs. Hinting at vague, spooky media mischaracterizations (the smug appeal to what "we know" they are really like) rather than taking up the actual points is common on the left, and an addendum to the signs of the charlatan.

My impression from what we've seen is that a lot of his so-called support is coming from other fake opposition and globalist shills. The left is clearly much more aware of what he actually is.

Blogger L' Aristokrato May 18, 2018 8:40 AM  

VD wrote:A British accent really goes a long way in leading U.S. midwits to take someone seriously as an intellectual.

No question. It really does.


The solution is clear then...
From now on, you must call yourself Voxtershire Daytonham, and speak exclusively in RP. And it wouldn't kill you to wear a monocle during Darkstreams either.

Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 18, 2018 8:41 AM  

@13

Joke: Study Aristotle's Art of Rhetoric and practice lots to eventually become a good rhetorician.

Woke: Adopt a smug British accent and instantly persuade the masses.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums May 18, 2018 8:48 AM  

@9

Yes. He has a boy (his biological son) and a daughter (his wife's biological daughter). Not talking that much about his daughter after "The Stepfather" meme, is he?

Blogger SirMaorio May 18, 2018 8:48 AM  

for reference, here is the full video where the short clip was taken from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOdm6Ijby0E

their cherry picking of the video clip used made sargon look better...

it's basically a distilled version of Sargon, alt-right bad, me good (along with my friends)

commenting on an article he hasn't read, good job there. straw-man the hell out of VD and call it a win and then bravely move away from the "battlefield"

it's on one hand a bit surprising and on the other not so much, one would think he would apply the same standard to himself as he does to the lefties he takes about in his "this week with stupid" videos but on the other hand if he did that he would be forced to concede the point VD is making and that doesn't fit with his worldview. I've found this entire jordanetics very enlightening and shifted my opinion on JP entirely. There is a reason that I stop reading certain blogs sooner or later and keep reading VD, might be an allergy to sulfur, I don't know, but sooner or later people will reveal themselves. in the case of VD, he did that from the start or maybe there was nothing to hide on his part

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) May 18, 2018 8:53 AM  

it turns out, the only thing Hitler did wrong was Code Swapping "Jew" for "Aryan".

Blogger Rickaby007 May 18, 2018 8:55 AM  

@18

Sargon's whole career consists of camping and sniping from a shallow intellectual foxhole.

Blogger VD May 18, 2018 9:02 AM  

Sargon's whole career consists of camping and sniping from a shallow intellectual foxhole.

Clearly people enjoy that. I have, what, about 6,000 subscribers on YouTube while he has 796,000. People gravitate to what works. C'est la vie.

Blogger Out of Nod May 18, 2018 9:07 AM  

@Resident Moron

".. and most of the churches, too."

I have heard that 2 Peter 3:12 means the church should push the world towards the apocalypse. I wonder if they think more people will turn to Christ if the west didn't exist, something about people turning to God when they are at their lowest and have no other options. It's been a few years since I heard a pastor say this though, I tend to stay away from those types of pastors.

Blogger Rickaby007 May 18, 2018 9:08 AM  

@21

The majority is always wrong.

Blogger FUBARwest May 18, 2018 9:25 AM  

How does anyone take Sargon seriously when he critiques something he ADMITS he did not read?

This whole Jordenetics saga has definitely reinforced MPAI if nothing else.

Blogger OGRE May 18, 2018 9:26 AM  

This whole Jordanetics affair reminds me more and more of the New Atheists.

Not surprising, considering its all the same people following them. Jordanetics is but Christianity for the New Atheists and "rational skeptics."

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) May 18, 2018 9:26 AM  

20. Rickaby007 May 18, 2018 8:55 AM
Sargon's whole career consists of camping and sniping from a shallow intellectual foxhole.



indeed.

and, as with JPB and Trump, it mostly serves to demonstrate the atrociously miserable state of our opponents.

without the Commanding Heights, they could not even survive in a rational society. Sargon can slice and dice SJWs with ease ... and immediately turns and uses all of the SJW tactics when engaging the Right.

funny, that.

Blogger Rocklea Marina May 18, 2018 9:28 AM  

Clearly people enjoy that. I have, what, about 6,000 subscribers on YouTube while he has 796,000. People gravitate to what works. C'est la vie.

You both have a high engagement ratio of views/subscribers. His, being a mature channel, is quite impressive. With the pendulum swinging right, regular darkstreams plus voxiversity, should make your subscriber base grow.

Blogger Out of Nod May 18, 2018 9:29 AM  

Sargon has been on the youtube game for quite some time and has been able to build a base. He tends to communicate on a level that the masses understand and find entertaining. His style is to bring up a topic, pause to generate discomfort, and then mock it just to hammer the point home. Useful when taking apart SJWs. But he is openly an atheist and has often sprouted his disbelief in Christianity with the bitterness of someone who got smacked with a ruler by a nun or has argued with a street preacher.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) May 18, 2018 9:38 AM  

Sargon has taken the Equalitarianism of Christianity ( we are all the same before God ) but claims to be an atheist evolutionist who believes that humans are nothing more than moderately smart animals with opposable thumbs who *evolved* due to Darwinian competition.

Darwinian competition requires differences within species, which adaptations will be more or less applicable to certain environments, which will eventually differentiate into completely different species altogether.

ie - to an Evolutionary Atheist ALL LIFE is related, but each species is simply a different state on the Evolutionary continuum ( from Virii and single cell Algae to Men and Blue Whales ).

not only does this imply differential abilities in variant human populations, Darwinian Competition REQUIRES IT.

Sargon, of course, dares call the Christians stupid.

Blogger dtungsten May 18, 2018 9:41 AM  

To be fair, when Sargon said he hadn't read it he was referring to the UN paper and not VD's post (in contrast to what JFG said); though, from his misrepresentation of VD's post it's clear he either hasn't read it, is stupid, or lying (or some combination thereof).

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 18, 2018 9:42 AM  

@bob kek

In my view pattern recognition is a sign of intelligence.

We're forbidden from noticing the patterns, i.e. we're being commanded to be stupid, because drawing attention to them might be rude of hurt someone's feelz.

I decline the invitation to self-lobotomise in deference to emotionally incontinent fools.

Blogger Arthur Isaac May 18, 2018 9:44 AM  

Tards can have really kick ass lives.

Blogger Cecil Henry May 18, 2018 9:45 AM  

Sargon is such a pretentious cuck I can't take him seriously.

He'd rather sound smart than concern himself with the actual consequences of his signalling. ITs unbearable after about 5 minutes.

Somehow, people like it, probably because he's a weak pablum to the the left that's easy to take for the newly almost red pilled.

Sargon would happily sip his tea in Mogadishu, or at least expect everyone else to, as long as he's 'right'.

Blogger Bultz May 18, 2018 9:49 AM  

They all seem to have joined forces recently, all the radical centrist online personalities - they're all shilling for Peterson and suddenly all pushing almost the exact same narrative at once. That's why on his own, Sargon is irrelevant, but he's a cog in this new cuck machine. They attack whatever they think is directing people towards nationalist/identitarian movements - this way they don' actually need to make any arguments, they just have to offer watered down SJWism

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 18, 2018 9:49 AM  

Reading the UN document, the greatest impression is of an eerily familiar combination, of appalling naivete with monstrous presumption.

On the one hand we're going to rid the world of poverty and hunger (with free speech for all, a point strongly emphasised and wholly redolent of JBP), but to do that we have to hold every nation accountable to our prescriptions detailed herein.

Exactly HOW that accountability is effected is, as ever, undefined. Historic examples would not give the alert reader great comfort, however, that this accountability would not immediately degenerate into neo-imperialism using the UN as figleaf.

Blogger Arthur Isaac May 18, 2018 9:53 AM  

So Sargon is doing the broad brush approavh wherein critiscism of the U.N. amounts to being a tinfoil wearing Conspiracy Theorist? Because the U.N. doesn't have a globalist agenda and to suggest it does will result in gales of contrived gufawwing from Lord Heehaw? Somebody needs to stop praying that our enemies be ridiculous, I'm embarrassed for them.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) May 18, 2018 9:57 AM  

34. Bultz May 18, 2018 9:49 AM
They all seem to have joined forces recently


Sargon has always been against Hitlerites
...
and anyone he can accuse of being a Hitlerite.

Blogger Flair1239 May 18, 2018 10:12 AM  

Vox, in the last 24 hours Stefan Molyneaux has doubled down on Jewish IQ and Cernovich has come out as an unabashed Zionist declaring the Jewish cause as “Just”.

I look forward to your upcoming posts about how both are intellectually dishonest, mentally unstable, and controlled opposition.

Blogger Rickaby007 May 18, 2018 10:21 AM  

@38

Moly is a Jew. Cerno is a race-mixing merchant obsessed with shekels and signaling against white nationalists.

Blogger jimmy_the_freak May 18, 2018 10:31 AM  

Interesting names on the "Let's you and him fight" attacks.

Blogger VD May 18, 2018 10:37 AM  

I look forward to your upcoming posts about how both are intellectually dishonest, mentally unstable, and controlled opposition.

Why? I am not aware of Stefan knowingly lying about the issue like Peterson did. And Cernovich is correct, assuming he is talking about the Gaza situation. Israel, like every other nation, has the right to defend its borders.

Even if you hate Jews, do you seriously prefer them living in your nation rather than their own?

I am not the Jewish IQ police. And neither Stefan nor Cerno are on psychotropic drugs, nor have they been anointed as Approved Opposition by the New York Times.

Give it up, Fake Right Flair.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora May 18, 2018 10:39 AM  

He's referring to Stefan saying the Jews have an average IQ a standard deviation higher than vanilla whites in his latest video. Who knows if Stefan will ever admit he's wrong there. I suspect he says that to keep people from calling him a Nazi. But the attack on Cernovich is silly.

Blogger Meimou May 18, 2018 10:41 AM  

The shortcomings of Cuckavich doesn't mean VD should put a knife in his back, and cucking on the JIQ thing doesn't make one controlled opposition.

I look forward to your upcoming posts about how both are intellectually dishonest, mentally unstable, and controlled opposition.

JP was exposed for what he was, sorry.

Blogger OGRE May 18, 2018 10:41 AM  

Theres an awful lot that Molyneux is wrong about.

Blogger Rickaby007 May 18, 2018 10:56 AM  

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Blogger arende15 May 18, 2018 11:05 AM  

“Israel, like every other nation, has the right to defend its borders.”

Possession of the termer, possession of the reversioner.

Blogger VD May 18, 2018 11:06 AM  

Vox, that must be a misprint.

It is. Fixed, thanks.

Blogger Meimou May 18, 2018 11:11 AM  

Nitwit: below average IQ.
Midwit: average IQ
? : above average IQ

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 18, 2018 11:16 AM  

@Meimou
A midwit was the guy who was the smartest in his class in grade school, and think's he's still the smartest in college.
Everybody at File770.
105-115 IQ

Blogger FUBARwest May 18, 2018 11:26 AM  

"He's referring to Stefan saying the Jews have an average IQ a standard deviation higher than vanilla whites in his latest video"

Curious, which video was this? I see his recent ones are about Korea, the Trump 'animal' comments and one on the cyclical nature of human history. None of those seem like topics in which Jewish IQ would come up.

Blogger Sevron May 18, 2018 11:29 AM  

I listen to Molyneux fairly often, he has mentioned the Jewish superior IQ many times and that it justifies their place in society.

Blogger kurt9 May 18, 2018 11:32 AM  

This is a little off topic. But it relates to previous discussions about converged corporate cultures and their resultant inability to innovate.

It appears that Google may have faked their recent A.I. demo:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/05/uh-did-google-fake-its-big-ai-demo

It has been my standing prediction since the James Delmore firing that Google, and other converged companies, will continue to loose the corporate environment necessary for continued innovation. The subject of this Vanity Fair article is representative of this trend.

Blogger Rickaby007 May 18, 2018 11:35 AM  

@51 never mind the fact that even if that was the case, there would still be more non-Jews with higher IQs than the ruling Jews. It's such an intellectually cheap excuse. More people need to read the work of Kevin Macdonald.

Blogger Bogey May 18, 2018 11:44 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F17WRYklkTw

"As long as they can remain secular I'm happy for them to remain religious."
--Sargon of Akkad

Jackass

Blogger Rickaby007 May 18, 2018 11:50 AM  

@54 by secular, I think he means not bound by religious rules. But all belief systems, mutually supportive sets of beliefs, have rules. You can't have contradictions for a start. What a shithead.

Blogger Rickaby007 May 18, 2018 12:01 PM  

@54

>Sargon doesn't seem to understand Peterson's belief in god 100%. His belief in god doesn't lack rational, so there isn't any irrationality that could bleed in anywhere. Peterson is not superstitious in any way. Him believing in god is a matter of defining the terms. Most atheists would probably categorize him as an atheist once they understood his position.

If you call a cat a donut, it's a donut.

Blogger Jon Mollison May 18, 2018 12:03 PM  

> Nitwit: below average IQ.
> Midwit: average IQ
> ? : above average IQ

The word you are looking for is 'wit'. As in, "JRR Tolkein was quite the wit." Sounds a little odd as it has fallen out of fashion, but it is one proper usage of the word.

Blogger Flair1239 May 18, 2018 12:09 PM  

It is the “Cyle of history” one

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 18, 2018 12:36 PM  

JP doesn't believe in God. He believes in evolution and calls it god.

Blogger Pale Male May 18, 2018 12:36 PM  

bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) wrote:ie - to an Evolutionary Atheist ALL LIFE is related, but each species is simply a different state on the Evolutionary continuum ( from Virii and single cell Algae to Men and Blue Whales ).
If that wasn't true, we wouldn't be able to use bacterial cultures to test compounds for their potential to cause genetic mutations in humans.

not only does this imply differential abilities in variant human populations, Darwinian Competition REQUIRES IT.
Has Sargon gotten on the HBD-denial train?  Unless he has, you're battling a straw man.  I've paid very little attention to him but I seem to recall him taking on SJWS and some of their sacred icons, like mohammedans.

Sargon, of course, dares call the Christians stupid.
Anyone who criticizes someone based on a position they do not hold or thing they are not is stupid at best, dishonest if they have any clue about the truth, and downright evil if they are doing it deliberately.

Bultz wrote:They attack whatever they think is directing people towards nationalist/identitarian movements - this way they don' actually need to make any arguments, they just have to offer watered down SJWism
Curious.  However, given that Sargon lives in a totalitarian PC dictatorship, you have to cut him some slack.  There is only so much he can say without literally being thrown in jail, and publicly sympathizing with the alt-right might be over the line.  Maybe he even has to do ritual denunciation now.

Remember this joke?  "I asked my North Korean friend how he was.  He said he couldn't complain."  In the UK, that's not a joke anymore.  You CAN'T complain about any of the sacred groups, including invaders.

We'll see people's true faces when the state's ability to enforce PC speech codes breaks down.  Not until.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd May 18, 2018 1:03 PM  

When he said he couldn't tell if Lawrence Fishburne is black, I lost all respect for him. That's female SJW level perfidy.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction May 18, 2018 1:16 PM  

@3
The problem with Sargon is that he is smart, just not as smart as he thinks he is.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction May 18, 2018 1:22 PM  

@50
He does mentions J IQ in the cyclical history. I'm listening to it now.

Blogger Bodo Staron May 18, 2018 1:43 PM  

I hope JF asks you on the show sometimes. Maybe a discussion on morality. Or Christianity.

Blogger Win May 18, 2018 2:10 PM  

The UN Panel New Global Partnership has John Podesta as panel member.
Is JBP is hanging out with paedos?

Blogger Panzerdude May 18, 2018 2:18 PM  

I do not see JPB referenced in the UN doc. Can someone link to a record of him authoring, or contributing to the doc? Thx.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 18, 2018 2:47 PM  

Panzerdude wrote:I do not see JPB referenced in the UN doc. Can someone link to a record of him authoring, or contributing to the doc? Thx.
Do your own work.
Google is easy. Or maybe go back a week in the postings where the matter was actually discussed.

Blogger Artanis May 18, 2018 3:09 PM  

Sargon has gone on record that he lies when it's convenient, the most notable example of this is how he came up with some nonsense that he's part black due to a grandfather of his being black, but low and behold, he posted video of his parents and they're both lily white. Then he came up with further bullshit that said grandfather was some kind of southern euro, and how they aren't white (lol).

Blogger Lovekraft May 18, 2018 3:30 PM  

Sargon is not alt-right. Not even close. Wouldn't be surprised if in the next couple years he goes Remain or even sides with muslims against the Robinson/Farage/Hopkins crowd.

OpenID jbwilson24 May 18, 2018 3:46 PM  

@51

I find that Molyneaux is reductionist. He'll latch on to one variable as cause, excluding others from consideration. In the case of IQ, he seems to think that there are no other variables to explain success. The dismissal of nepotism, networking, winner-take-all markets, capture of key industries like banking (etc) are nowhere to be found on his list of explanations for Jewish success. It is thoroughly unscientific to ignore those, considering there is actual research out there (e.g., on Jewish ethnic nepotism in academic citation networks) that points to their relevance.

Blogger Lovekraft May 18, 2018 3:56 PM  

Slightly O/T but if you want to get a good idea of the state of Britain versus a solid nation, compare the Olympic opening ceremonies of the most recent England vs China opening ceremonies.

Britain had a Russell Brand-led hodgepodge of chaos. China had a tight and focused presentation.

Blogger Mr. Deficient May 18, 2018 3:56 PM  

@60 plenty of UK alt righters and its not like austria, Germany and Canada dont have similar situations s, albeit less extreme. If the JBP affair has taught us anything, it's that monetary or physical fear is rarely a motivation. Most lib cucks really believe this shit. Sargon doesn't believe in all sorts of things, like white people.

Blogger tublecane May 18, 2018 5:18 PM  

I don't have any problem with calling the NWO communistic in the broad sense, though that's probably not what Sargon had in mind, and it is a misleading characterization.

Although, I suppose Sargon can't have misled anyone. Because he didn't know what Vox said, he wouldn't know in which direction to lead people away from it.

Blogger LRN_News May 18, 2018 8:39 PM  

I never liked Sargon. He's self obsessed and terrible at debating, theres a reason why he's often referred to as strawman of akkad.
He tries to ridicule the alt-right but fails miserably.

Blogger English Tom May 18, 2018 10:57 PM  

The Soyim. Excellent!

Blogger English Tom May 18, 2018 11:00 PM  

To be British in certain parts of the world has a certain cachet.

Blogger English Tom May 18, 2018 11:09 PM  

Sargon is left wing by his own admission. He considers himself a classical liberal.

Blogger SadEnding May 20, 2018 10:17 AM  

Everyone who spouts an opinion is criticized but I don't know anyone who is criticized as regularly and roundly and Vox. Fortunately, he is mostly just ignored.

Blogger Genghis Khan May 21, 2018 12:47 AM  

I'm sorry, but you're wrong Vox Day.

You guys got the wrong report.

Here is the Podesta report that you said Peterson is connected to:
https://www.un.org/sg/sites/www.un.org.sg/files/files/HLP_P2015_Report.pdf

The actual report Peterson was involved with (as an adviser officially, not an author):

https://en.unesco.org/system/files/GSP_Report_web_final.pdf

Vox Day, you need to retract your statements regarding Peterson being connected to Podesta. It is completely inaccurate.


"And JFG is absolutely right; if one is going to opine on a paper, one has the duty to actually read it. It is because Sargon disagrees with me that he really ought to do better. As he would learn if he actually bothered to look into the matter"

The irony considering you got the WRONG report, hahahaha. Maybe you should've spent a bit more time looking into the matter instead of copying what 4chan said without any critical thinking. Did you not wonder why Peterson's name wasn't anywhere to be found near the Podesta report?

Blogger Genghis Khan May 21, 2018 12:50 AM  

@66 Panzerdude,

here is the report Peterson is connected to:

https://en.unesco.org/system/files/GSP_Report_web_final.pdf

It is not the same one Vox Day has been going on about (the Podesta report). That is why you cannot find Peterson's name in the Podesta report. VD is wrong.

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