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Thursday, May 31, 2018

ABC's corporate cancer

Tom Arnold estimates the losses from ABC's reaction to a single tweet:
"ABC lost maybe $1 billion from this; this show was grinding out money hand over fist and they lost it all because somebody didn’t say, 'Get that phone out of her hand,'" Arnold tells THR.
No, it's all because someone didn't say, "Who cares what Roseanne says on Twitter? We don't." And the losses could be more than that.
Not only will "Roseanne" fans never see season two of the show's hit revival, the original series will now be harder to catch in syndication. Viacom is pulling the show's reruns from its Paramount Network, TV Land and CMT channels, TODAY has confirmed. The syndication scheduling change, which follows ABC’s abrupt cancellation of the popular series’ recent revival, will go into effect on Wednesday.
Now, I could not possibly care less about a show that I have never seen at any point in my life, but it is a very important lesson in the willingness, nay, the eagerness, of the SJWs to cut their own throats in order to virtue-signal.

And if they'll cut their own throats, they certainly won't hesitate to try to cut yours. Never assume you are fully anti-fragile, never assume you are too big to take down, and never assume they will put their monetary interests before their virtue-signaling imperative.

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Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 31, 2018 9:08 AM  

I was going to say something about a field survival manual being helpful, bus someone already wrote one.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore May 31, 2018 9:10 AM  

On a side note, the saying "SJWs always lie" is completely applicable in this case. It is true that Jarrett looks identical to Helena Bonham Carter's character in Planet of the Apes. The SJWs distracted from this truth with a fake claim of racism and frightened everyone away, even those whose careers were enriched by Roseanne Barr (See Sarah Gilbert).

Strange how people who seek involuntary collectivism imposed on all make deliberate attempts at hiding truth, and reality, with falsehoods.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 31, 2018 9:25 AM  

I get how they use a purity spiral-type mechanism as an endless chain of amplifiers for their orthodoxy, but unfortunately the amplifiers aren't the weak point, as there's an endless supply of raw material for them.

No, look at the top-down integration of the dogma enforced via convergence of large employers, credentialors/creditors, and the corrupted governmental/pseudo-governmental entities controlled by the "jewel"-clench the Fabians and financiers have. Those are the oscillators at the edges of this jell-O pool.

The only way to stop it is to vitrify the jell-O, so that the oscillators lose affect and can be dismantled in the future.

Blogger Justin Bailey May 31, 2018 9:26 AM  

Trump continues to show the way on this by punching back and not cowering and crying about how horrible and racist Roseanne.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1002156016060989445?s=21

Blogger The Kurgan May 31, 2018 9:27 AM  

If one has the tiniest ability to extrapolate at all, it doesn’t take much to realise where this will end.

It’s time to move to the rural areas of a country where you can have several politically very incorrect neighbours armed with guns.
And start building your community as best you can before the SHTF

Blogger Azimus May 31, 2018 9:27 AM  

This Roseanne thing is smelling more like what ABC tried to do to Rush Limbaugh on Monday Night Football - like its a strategy to ruin potential enemies rather than promote right-leaning personalities and make money doing so...

Blogger Brick Hardslab May 31, 2018 9:28 AM  

If I had the ability, I'd grab the show. I'd be rich as Creosus and buy an island in a year or two.

Proof that the media already has a stranglehold and is entirely converged.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 31, 2018 9:31 AM  

Creosus = the king of fencepost preservation?

Blogger JohnR219 May 31, 2018 9:34 AM  

@7: No one will take the show...most of the cast would not do it...

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 31, 2018 9:34 AM  

Croesus

Blogger Brick Hardslab May 31, 2018 9:36 AM  

Oh bite me.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 31, 2018 9:38 AM  

Are you smoked? I hear Croesus is also king of that.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore May 31, 2018 9:41 AM  

@4 I get the feeling that Trump deliberately feeds narratives to his staunchest supporters in order to motivate them to continue fighting. That Tweet about ABC's double-standard provided people with a frame by which to shed some of the sense of demoralization. It's like Trump thought to himself "Lemme' give an assist to the deplorables and lift their spirits."

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 31, 2018 9:41 AM  

And now you've infected me with typocillus maldextrous.

Time to stop joking around I guess.

Blogger Johnny May 31, 2018 9:42 AM  

It is not the stuff I care to watch, but what is transparent is that there is a big market for a family oriented sitcom that features a more or less ordinary family, not the always flawed family made up of nut cases or fools or whatever. Along with a certain amount of star power, that is why the Roseanne show goes over well. Same for the old Cosby show. Same for the Brady Bunch. Same for Little House on the Prairie. And so on and so on all the way back to the I Love Lucy show. They simply refuse to put on a show that depicts an ordinary (or sort of ordinary) family in a favorable light.

If the government wanted to do something constructive they would recognize a difference between public and private. When you don't have to see it if you don't want to it is private, and the need for government control minimal. What they want, of course, is to control us, thus the effort to censor private speech now being added on to the long term effort to deter freedom of association

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 9:43 AM  

I still believe that this was a strategy to disparage and demoralize Trump supporters from the beginning. We are in a culture war. The speed and severity of the consequences let ABC flex their muscles while making an example of a celebrity Trump supporter, and while also taking the high ground and saying “Hey we gave her a chance, but she blew it, she showed us the true colors of Trump supporters, and we won’t make that mistake again.”

Now I’ve seen the show (Hegelian Dialectic), and I’ve seen Roseanne in interviews. She’s a loose cannon, and perpetuates the media’s sterotype of the crazy conspiracy theorist. She acts red pilled, but is it just an act? She is an actress, and a very skilled writer.

Whether or not Roseanne was in on this stunt, which I personally believe she was, ABC had to have known at some point she would play into their hands. Just give her enough rope.

Why would ABC EVER give any air time to a show that casts a positive light on Trump supporters? It wouldn’t.

And about the money? Was it money lost or money well spent in a political propaganda stunt going into midterms?

Blogger ThirdMonkey May 31, 2018 9:50 AM  

Roseanne is a nut. Didn't she seek the nomination for the Green Party, and was part of the Occupy movement? She's not one of us. She has been propped up as a caricature of working class whites for the purpose of ridicule. The MSM let resurrected her show for the express purpose of waiting for her to screw up so they could associate her with all working-class whites and call us all racists. I never watched the reboot. I wouldn't worry too much about her, though. Her net worth is in excess of $50 million, which is a pretty good chunk of F-U money.

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 10:00 AM  

As for John Goodman, a good friend of Clooney, I was a little suspicious when he signed on for the show. I didn’t think it was realistic that he’d stick around for multiple seasons. No, and don’t feel bad about the actors losing their jobs, they did their jobs, they all played their parts.

Blogger pyrrhus May 31, 2018 10:06 AM  

The funny part to me is that the Iranian born Jarrett is a notorious Chicago slumlord who treats her minority tenants like garbage. She is also one of the ugliest people around....Yet she was installed in the WH as Obama's controller, so that's supposed to make her untouchable.

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 10:06 AM  

Basically, ABC produced a fake reality show about a television show. Copying right out of Trump’s playbook they used social media as the stage.

Blogger Lazarus May 31, 2018 10:07 AM  

Where is the shareholder revolt?

Blogger Peter Gent May 31, 2018 10:10 AM  

"And if they'll cut their own throats, they certainly won't hesitate to try to cut yours. Never assume you are fully anti-fragile, never assume you are too big to take down, and never assume they will put their monetary interests before their virtue-signaling imperative."

Except when it comes to the Clintons. But maybe, just maybe, that is beginning to change.

Blogger Johnny May 31, 2018 10:24 AM  

I have been thinking about Disney as a company. If you look up their financials they are hugely profitable and financially strong. They can eat a couple of billion dollars loss if it doesn't otherwise damage the company.

Functionally they are a consolidator, they go around buying up other, smaller companies. This is the way a lot of big corporations are produced. The logic of it is that the marketing power of the big company allows the smaller companies product to be sold better, thus they can pay a lot and still turn a profit on the purchase.

From a money standpoint the flaw in their strategy is that the top management should not be engaged in changing the properties they acquire because they tend to damage the product for what is apparently some mixture of vanity and SJW stuff.

On the side, I wonder if they pull in political favors for their conduct? In crass money terms that would justify some of it.

Blogger WillBest May 31, 2018 10:32 AM  

A billion is a stretch. First Media Matters will make it difficult for corporate America to buy ads on it. Which will heavily discount the rate per eyeball.

Second, they aren't replacing it with dead air. Something will fill all those spots and generate revenue.

No one will take the show...most of the cast would not do it...

Because they all have other opportunities for paychecks? Even Goodman is spent and irrelevant.


Roseanne dressed up like Hitler and baked jewbread cookies in the oven. She shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near prominence again. I am inclined to be believe this really was Disney's way of attacking working class America. They canceled Last Man Standing (which was center left in its political leanings) for no apparent reason.

Blogger Dire Badger May 31, 2018 10:35 AM  

The Original show was worth watching, if only for John Goodman's character.

Blogger James Dixon May 31, 2018 10:40 AM  

> First Media Matters will make it difficult for corporate America to buy ads on it.

Make it difficult? How? Bad publicity? Most of the audience would consider Media Matters complaints to be good publicity. Advertisers can tell Media Matters where to go if the simply decide to do so.

> Second, they aren't replacing it with dead air. Something will fill all those spots and generate revenue.

Yes, but if it's ABC's usual fare, it'll get less than half the viewers.

$1B is probably being conservative.

Blogger Chris Lutz May 31, 2018 10:56 AM  

WillBest wrote:A billion is a stretch. First Media Matters will make it difficult for corporate America to buy ads on it. Which will heavily discount the rate per eyeball.

Second, they aren't replacing it with dead air. Something will fill all those spots and generate revenue.


A show that regularly brings in 22 million viewers is not simply replaced. Those shows are gold not only for their time slot but for the following time slot. Plus the show has the added incentive to cause people to watch the original series in syndication. This is killing the goose that lays the golden eggs because it woke you up one night by honking.

Yes, Roseanne is an unstable nut. However, the point is that the Left gets to say whatever they want without consequence.

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 11:19 AM  

@Chris Lutz,

The left gets to say what they want without consequence because they own and control most media platforms. They set the rules, and they determine the consequences.

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 11:24 AM  

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Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 11:26 AM  

We’re playing with their toys, and they can take them and go home whenever they like.

Blogger Stilicho May 31, 2018 11:27 AM  

Wait, you mean I could be fired for saying that Valerie Jarret shares 98 percent of her DNA with a chimpanzee?

Blogger Man of The West May 31, 2018 11:31 AM  

I used to view the Conan the Barbarian (1983) as a simple (and highly erroneous) Roy Thomas/John Milius adaptation of REH’s work for the 80s Hollywood audience. Watching it recently, it’s near impossible to ignore the overt nationalist/anti-SJW themes Milius throws in, likely without knowing it. The cult followers in the movie will commit suicide at Thulsa Doom’s whim, and only to express their complete devotion to their snake worshipping faith that requires it. Even the princess is willing to sacrifice her kingdom and her life to virtue signal to the cult. Hopefully SJWism will end with the same result as the movie.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 31, 2018 11:34 AM  

Roger Ebert was uncomfortable with the end of the movie. Guess why.

Blogger Cataline Sergius May 31, 2018 11:40 AM  

Lazarus wrote:Where is the shareholder revolt?

Now that is the real question here.




In a single week Bob Iger has personally fired his biggest network star, ESPN has hired on the rating's cancer known as Keith Olberman and let us not forget Soylo bombed at the boxoffice.



Nine years ago Disney's stock was hovering around the fifteen dollar mark. Then Iger bought Marvel which started the stock value on a record breaking (for Disney) upward trajectory. It was at about $50 a share when they bought Lucasfilm in 2012.

In January of this year it was sitting at 110.

In short Disney's stock value is drastically over inflated because of the IP known as Star Wars.

Today the House of Mouse's stock value is sitting at $99 per share. Hardly a crash but that said, I wouldn't dancing on the roof tops if I was an institutional investor either.

Marvel looks (temporarily) solid enough (for the moment) but Kathleen Kennedy and her Gamma Male sycophants at Lucasfilm have broken Star Wars.

If the market understood what we the fans really feel about the franchise at this point, the stock value would be crashing through the basement.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 31, 2018 11:42 AM  

Cataline,

I agree, there has to be someone who cares about the money Disney is losing.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia May 31, 2018 11:44 AM  

ThirdMonkey wrote:Roseanne is a nut. Didn't she seek the nomination for the Green Party, and was part of the Occupy movement? She's not one of us. She has been propped up as a caricature of working class whites for the purpose of ridicule. The MSM let resurrected her show for the express purpose of waiting for her to screw up so they could associate her with all working-class whites and call us all racists. I never watched the reboot. I wouldn't worry too much about her, though. Her net worth is in excess of $50 million, which is a pretty good chunk of F-U money.

All this is true, though I wonder whether the MSM is THAT clever of a conspiracy organizer.

Of course, this whole event is emblematic of the SJW modus operandi, so in that sense, what happened here is a GOOD thing because it shows the true colors of today's converged corporation.

By the way, I saw a Valerie Jarrett clip the other day. Is she bleaching, or was that powder that was a quarter inch thick on her face?

My favorite picture of the Obama Rasputin was the day the Trump folks came to the White HOuse, and she was leaning against the pillar with her arms crossed, watching the start of the changing of the guard.

Her look of fury and disgust was positively delicious.

Blogger Uncle John's Band May 31, 2018 11:47 AM  

@ 3. Azure Amaranthine

"vitrify the jell-O" is my new favorite metaphor.

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 11:48 AM  

Disney has been weaponized by globalists. It’s a big gun pointed at us, and the money is only bullets, and they have much more than we do. They are betting on shooting us down before they run out.

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 11:50 AM  

@KPK,

It’s really not that clever of a strategy.

Blogger James Dixon May 31, 2018 11:54 AM  

> They are betting on shooting us down before they run out.

Money doesn't work that way.

Blogger Timmy3 May 31, 2018 12:08 PM  

Obama tanked the economy for 8 years and now he works for Netflix with his other administration liars. Disney is heading down. Sell Disney. Iger will never be President. Roseanne will find success at any Network that wants her. Nothing ever good to watch on television anymore.

Blogger RB May 31, 2018 12:19 PM  

Realizing that she put herself out there under her own volition, it still serves as a stark reminder that the social media phenomenon has seemingly destroyed any line of demarcation between professional and personal life. And on the other side of that line every comment is being policed by the SJW storm troopers. Just another good reason why I checked out of FB, IG and Twitter long ago...

Blogger WillBest May 31, 2018 12:20 PM  

Make it difficult? How? Bad publicity? Most of the audience would consider Media Matters complaints to be good publicity. Advertisers can tell Media Matters where to go if the simply decide to do so.

Most the audience doesn't know what Media Matters is. Most the audience will probably only find out about what Roseanne did when they learn the show got canceled.

That isn't the genius of media matters though. They go after Ford and Proctor and Gamble and put astrotruf campaigns on them so that the sympathetic marketing executives in those companies can capitulate and tell their advertising companies not to advertise.

And now they can say its because Roseanne is racist, not because they hate 60% of the people that buy their toothpaste.

Yes, but if it's ABC's usual fare, it'll get less than half the viewers.

Perhaps. But you are talking about $150-200k difference in an ad spot price. Which is roughly 5000 ads and there are only 18 an episode. And some of those are used by the network to promote their own shows. Sure there is syndication and renewed interest in the old show. But the difference between those ads measures in the thousands not hundreds of thousands. To get a loss of a billion dollars you have to assume at least 4 more seasons at 20+ million viewers.

Blogger DrAndroSF May 31, 2018 12:22 PM  

“And if they’ll cut their own throats, they certainly won’t hesitate to try to cut yours. “

Best line in the piece and best line of the day.

Blogger James Dixon May 31, 2018 12:29 PM  

> To get a loss of a billion dollars you have to assume at least 4 more seasons at 20+ million viewers.

You're ignoring syndication and the effects on shows before and after that time slot.

Blogger Elijah May 31, 2018 12:35 PM  

i wasted almost an hour watching a new NBC show last night. the show is called Reverie. it is terrible, but the worst part is that of the 5 main characters, one is a middle eastern woman, one is an asian woman, one is a pakastani male ( very dark) ,one is an older black dude and the last one is an older white woman. the white woman works for the department of defense and is evil.

so in the SJW universe the only smart brave people are middle eastern, Asian paki,black and mostly woman , unless you are old and blonde and white then you are evil.

based on this show, not only are white folks dumb and evil, but they make up only about 20% of the population. in NBC and SJW land the white race has already been killed off.

Blogger Desdichado May 31, 2018 12:41 PM  

based on this show, not only are white folks dumb and evil, but they make up only about 20% of the population. in NBC and SJW land the white race has already been killed off.

How many urban inner cities have you visited in America? That's not far off from their perspective out of their office windows.

Blogger Jack Amok May 31, 2018 12:49 PM  

it is a very important lesson in the willingness, nay, the eagerness, of the SJWs to cut their own throats in order to virtue-signal.

Not that it makes a functional difference from our side of things when it comes to judging anti-fragility, but I'm pretty sure a big part of their willing to cut their throats is they assume they'll have access to plenty of restorative cash transfusions. They assume they're too big to fail, or too connected to fail. In fact, watching the behavior of ESPN, CNN and MSNBC, they appear to believe cutting their throats deeper is the way to staunch the losses.

The NFL is trying to walk back their virtue signalling in response to financial pain. It's not going to work - too late, too little understanding of what the actual break with their fans really was and too many unrelated financial problems about to pile on - but the pain did produce a response.

Blogger JohnR219 May 31, 2018 12:54 PM  

@24...because they are SJWs....Gilbert and the guy that plays DJ already spoke out against her and I doubt Laurie Metcalf would do it...not hard to understand...they're actors...

Blogger Ledford Ledford May 31, 2018 1:03 PM  

The Kurgan wrote:If one has the tiniest ability to extrapolate at all, it doesn’t take much to realise where this will end.

It’s time to move to the rural areas of a country where you can have several politically very incorrect neighbours armed with guns.

And start building your community as best you can before the SHTF


Nothing wrong with moving to the country, but I don't think we can extrapolate too far the increase in SJW/Globalist power. The fact that they have to ban, fire, arrest, cancel etc. shows they're losing their grip. It used to be enough to just point and shriek and the fight would be over.

If you listen to them talk amongst themselves, they are almost despondent. I recommend watching the following (Addressing Effects of Populism) and interpret it as the lamentation of their soymen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBbhzNaqEH4

Blogger AaMcavoy May 31, 2018 1:13 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Where is the shareholder revolt?

If I remember correctly, ABC stock is mostly owned by mutual funds, managed by right-wing patriots... I mean, the usual financial types.

Blogger mgh May 31, 2018 1:14 PM  

If they truly believe in globalism, then they figure they will be one of the few left standing as part of the global oligopoly in entertainment. Short term profits don't matter as long as you are destined to be one of the privileged few.

Blogger Lovekraft May 31, 2018 1:17 PM  

Vox should do an analysis of the sexual disfunction of the Jew in the west. We're seeing a lot of male Jews in power screw everything up for a piece of tail. What is going on in? Are their women so cold that these guys have to start hunting after our women?

Blogger Ceerilan May 31, 2018 1:29 PM  

This is why you watch network TV, take note of who is advertising, and threaten to boycott the company. While the network doesn't actually care, we can force the advertisers to drop them or go out of business.

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 1:33 PM  

Trump just pardoned Dinesh! All Hail the God Emperor!!!!!

Blogger Dirtnapninja May 31, 2018 1:36 PM  

The Kurgan wrote:If one has the tiniest ability to extrapolate at all, it doesn’t take much to realise where this will end.

It’s time to move to the rural areas of a country where you can have several politically very incorrect neighbours armed with guns.

And start building your community as best you can before the SHTF


That's retreatism.

To hell with that.

Stop running and start conquering.

Blogger WillBest May 31, 2018 1:45 PM  

You're ignoring syndication and the effects on shows before and after that time slot.

If I were ignoring those I would have said 11.6 season.

But lets talk about syndication. Old Roseanne math doesn't change. The rights were already sold to Paramount prior to the revival. I don't know the particulars of that deal, but unless it was up for renegotiation while the iron was hot, the math on that won't change. Paramount for its part has no intention of keeping Roseanne off syndication permanently since the President used "for the time being".

As for new Roseanne, there was going to be a bunch of second-run purchases this summer that they will lose out on by not offering it, but again since those are purchased by the individual television stations its not entirely clear how much they would be willing to pay with a full court press attacking advertisers over it.

Blogger Jack Amok May 31, 2018 1:50 PM  

Trump just pardoned Dinesh! All Hail the God Emperor!!!!!

Nice first step. Now put the hack prosecutors who did it in jail.

Blogger Al K. Annossow May 31, 2018 2:04 PM  

I suspect that the pardons are a notification that Trump will undo any Mueller actions that he deems to be abusive. That disheartens the Mueller team and emboldens potentially prosecuted individuals to not 'flip' on others. It takes some of that nearly unlimited power away from the special prosecutor.

Blogger Al K. Annossow May 31, 2018 2:19 PM  

'Trump weighs leniency for Martha Stewart and Blagojevich, will pardon conservative Dinesh D'Souza'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-pardon-conservative-author-dinesh-d-souza-n878851

Blogger Darwinian Arminian May 31, 2018 2:22 PM  

@4

Note also that this whole episode is giving the Never Trumpers yet another opportunity to show their true colors (surprise, always yellow). Here is King Cuck David French on Twitter, just a week after he publicly soiled himself over the gross offense to free speech that the NFL committed when they forbid players from kneeling during the anthem:

I do not like a standard that excessively politicizes jobs, imposes different levels of toleration based on progressive/conservative viewpoints or that puts excellence in the job behind politics.

"Be good at your job and be a decent human being" is a viewpoint-neutral standard and one that any person can theoretically uphold.

Well, anybody but Roseanne.

There is an order of magnitude difference between Roseanne and James Damore's thoughtful post, Brendan Eich's political donation, or Colin Kaepernick's quiet kneeling. Each of those fits squarely within "err on the side of free speech" in my point of view.


So you don't like a standard that excessively politicizes jobs? Hey, that's really sweet, Dave. Too bad the rest of us already live under that standard, because unlike cowards such as yourself we have no qualms about watching our enemies get crucified on the same cross that they built for us.

Blogger Madame Ringading May 31, 2018 2:23 PM  

Tangentially related, but of some relevance: The company that fired Roseanne in a split second over a single tweet dithers forever over a certain executive "on sabbatical"

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-rights/loselasseter-campaign-gains-steam-as-disney-considers-bringing-back-alleged-harasser-158696.html

Blogger Sheila4g May 31, 2018 2:24 PM  

As I don't watch t.v., I never saw the original Roseanne show or its newest iteration. And, as others have noted, she's an obnoxious nut with plenty of her own money. The point, as always, is that the putative right lets the left totally control the parameters of any kind of discourse. TruCons like Sean Hannity were rushing to condemn Roseanne's 'racist' tweet.

I happened to glance at the t.v. at the gym today, and CNN had a caption claiming Samantha Bee pwned Ivanka using an 'ugly ethnic slur.' The difference between a 'racist tweet' and an 'ugly ethnic slur,' pray tell? It's whatever the left says it is, and the TruCons and churchians will rush to genuflect. Peruse any civic nationalist or alt-lite or 'conservative' website and I guarantee you will find numerous commenters claiming "we're better than that," "that's not who we are," "we will win by showing our greater morality/tolerance/manners," etc. ad nauseam.

As Vox has made clear, the only thing that matters in the battle for the survival of Western Christian civilization is WINNING. With at least 70% of the daily-shrinking White population of the U.S. more concerned with 'racist' and 'niceness,' the only thing we're assured of is losing . . . our culture, our country, and our posterity.

@55 Howard Stone: "Trump just pardoned Dinesh! All Hail the God Emperor!!!!!"

F--k fake American and globalist larping as TruCon Dinesh D'Souza. Surely Trump has better things to do with his time - like build the damned wall.

Blogger DonReynolds May 31, 2018 2:45 PM  

Of course, it was a young Negro woman exec at ABC who made the decision. The adult supervision must not have been in the room at the time.

In the past, when an actor became an embarrassment, or a potential one, it was never over a single comment, but a pattern of behavior and the decision would be made to write said actor out of the show. The show would go on....same producers, same director, cast (minus one), crew and lighting. There was no purge of any and all that had ever been produced....they are property. Nor did they burn the studio to the ground, plow it up and sow the ground with salt. I have never seen a TV network pursue re-runs and burn them in the front yard. Sounds more like a particularly nasty divorce. Lemmie guess, they sat around and cut up all the pictures of Rossane with little girl scissors?

The public is not going to be impressed by ABC Network's virtue signaling. They will see it as immature and petulant. Something we might expect from a spoiled 12 year old. No pony for you this Christmas!

Blogger Go clones May 31, 2018 2:48 PM  

Haven't read the comments in awhile ... just got so sick of the Jordan Peterson crap. But I did today and saw several others noticed what I did:

"And if they’ll cut their own throats, they certainly won’t hesitate to try to cut yours."

Vox, this is fucking gold. Mind if I make a suggestion? Make this an addition to your 16 points or something. This is too good to lose track of ... everyone should always keep this in the back of their mind when dealing with brainwashed leftists ...

Blogger OGRE May 31, 2018 2:48 PM  

The Trump team are reacting to this in exactly the right way. The globalists and leftists wanted to push the narrative of "All Trump supporters are racists, e.g. Roseanne." Trump's team is responding by pointing out all the nasty things the people on the other side say (all much worse than what Roseanne said), and by doing so are amplifying the metanarrative of the cultural double standard and how most normie Americans would be susceptible to such name calling attacks but would themselves be crucified for similar conduct--or even much less.

The benefits to the Trump side could be tremendous from this; some leftist icons might get caught in the collateral damage, the Never Trumpers and Neocons get exposed for the sniveling virtue signalers that they are, and middle America gets awakened to the cultural war thats being waged against them. And the cost is but a marginally useful Roseanne sitcom.

Blogger James Dixon May 31, 2018 2:54 PM  

> If I were ignoring those I would have said 11.6 season.

I'll have to take you word for it then. I only know that you didn't mention them in your analysis. I don't know enough about the field to say whose numbers are correct, yours or theirs.

> The company that fired Roseanne in a split second over a single tweet dithers forever over a certain executive "on sabbatical"

To the left, supporting Trump is a far worse crime than either rape or pedophilia.

Blogger charlene mohn May 31, 2018 3:02 PM  

Nothing could be said about Valerie Jarrett that would be too bad. Come on she just got insulted so what who cares. We do care about losing a funny show. You guys ABC are jerks. Name-calling is not your business

Blogger DonReynolds May 31, 2018 3:17 PM  

Roughly half of the voters in this country voted for Donald Trump, meaning they are deplorables in the eyes of the Media.

The Media basic problem is audience. They know if they ONLY produce programming that ONLY appeals to the SJW Obama-loving Liberal Leftists, most of the seats will be empty and the tickets will be unsold. Somewhere along the way, the Media must hold their nose and permit a FEW programs for the deplorables in this country or walk away from half (or more) or their potential audience. (Hippies really do not watch a lot of television....especially rich Hippies.) So they end up offering some token programs for the working class whites and rednecks and because there are so FEW programs, they end up being the top rated on television (or theaters).

The basic problem is the Leftist Liberal Media has not found a way to package and market the Liberal agenda to people who are not impressed by the message. In the past, they had some success with comedy....ALL In The Family, Maude, etc. Rosanne was nothing more than the same sit-com (it always was) with fewer of the Liberal points. (It was not purely of the Right-wing viewpoint.)

Blogger tublecane May 31, 2018 3:31 PM  

I keep seeing headlines about how "The Roseanne Reboot Was Always a Gamble..." Pretending the gamble didn't pay off, when obviously it did. The tweet didn't lose threaten their winnings. Rather, they walked away from the table and threw their chips on a bonfire.

Virtue-signaling is at the core, yes. But in our world of deception, we have to look at who is lying about what. There's something fishy about the whole thing. Not saying the controversy wasn't real, because Roseanne is loose-lipped and normal people are blue-pilled enough to still care about comparing half-white people to apes. But the fact is the scandal barely got off the ground before Diznee acted. It threw away a billion dollars preemptively.

Theory: maybe the "gamble" was political as well as financial. They were playing Hegelian dialectics, stirring up controversy to bring in viewers, then bait-and-switching them with PC propaganda about transvestite grandkids and Muslim neighborliness. But it wasn't working exactly as they had hoped, and they didn't like Roseanne publicizing Q and going after Soros, etc. So they cut their losses, and ended the "gamble."

It feels to me more like they were looking for an excuse to cancel than they spontaneously had the itch to prove what noble people they are. Both scenarios involve pathological virtue-signalling, of course.

Blogger cmbaileytstc May 31, 2018 3:37 PM  

OT: So this happened.
https://m.facebook.com/RedpilledRabbit/photos/a.1811716892461871.1073741827.1793930757573818/1930654690568090/?type=3&source=48

Blogger Peter Gent May 31, 2018 3:45 PM  

Go clones wrote:Haven't read the comments in awhile ... just got so sick of the Jordan Peterson crap. But I did today and saw several others noticed what I did:

"And if they’ll cut their own throats, they certainly won’t hesitate to try to cut yours."

Vox, this is fucking gold. Mind if I make a suggestion? Make this an addition to your 16 points or something. This is too good to lose track of ... everyone should always keep this in the back of their mind when dealing with brainwashed leftists ...


It will probably be the title of the third SJW book...SJWs: If They’ll Cut Their Own Throats, They Certainly Won’t Hesitate to Try to Cut Yours

Blogger Lovekraft May 31, 2018 4:04 PM  

With so much riding on that show, and so many others with livelihoods tied into it, you would think Roseanne would have some type of contract obligation when it comes to public speaking (tweets, in this case).

Likely that it was proposed and Roseanne said no (justifiably? how much did ABC want to muzzle her?)

Seems like a chicken-egg scenario: the fact Roseanne was allowed some measure of creative control also meant this freedom could eventually backfire.

Blogger Bradford Walker May 31, 2018 4:11 PM  

SJWs, as a rule, have never had to connect satisfying a customer or an audience with success. They succeed by pleasing a patron, or by having a trust fund, which means that what counts as success is perverse by a normal man's perspective. They never had to rely on merit, so they do everything contrary to it out of habit.

This why the common SJW has no problem with cutting their own throats; they don't feel the pain, as they don't connect cause to effect, and find some means to get on their feet again through anything but their own merit time and again- until they're used up, or they reach the top of the SJW hierarchy.

The invitation of Anita Sarkeesian to GenCon as a Guest of Honor shows this in action.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 31, 2018 4:26 PM  

Howard Stone wrote:Trump just pardoned Dinesh! All Hail the God Emperor!!!!!

Because an Anti American, felon immigrant should be pardoned instead of stripped of his citizenship and deported?
Dinesh hates traditional Americans and our culture. He hates the nation created by the Founding Fathers.
He is a progressive Republican, but that is a redundancy.

His attacks upon Andrew Jackson and Southern Americans should not be allowed to stand.

Blogger VoodooJock May 31, 2018 4:43 PM  

They're probably thinking they'll cover the loss with future Star Wars profits. Profits that are probably actually losses given the twisted accounting methods that are the norm for that industry. Heck, they probably are so conditioned to perform accounting gymnastics they probably haven't clue one as to what they're actually making or losing.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 31, 2018 4:47 PM  

VoodooJock wrote:Profits that are probably actually losses given the twisted accounting methods that are the norm for that industry.

Usually it is the other way around where clearly profitable movies are said to lose money after all the sweet heart deals are factored in.

Blogger Chris Mallory May 31, 2018 4:59 PM  

@76
In 2011, Return of the Jedi had made $475 million dollars, yet had never shown a profit even though the budget was only $32 million.

You can find other examples with a little searching.

Blogger Jon Mollison May 31, 2018 5:09 PM  

ABC is part of Disney Corp. They can afford to take this hit because the Star Wars IP is doing so...oh yeah.

Rumor has it ABC's president made this decision after a long, late night phone call with he good friend Michelle Obama. Who recently signed a contract to produce content for ABC's competitor, Netflix. If true...hoo boy, that can't can't be even a little bit legal.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia May 31, 2018 5:16 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:@76
In 2011, Return of the Jedi had made $475 million dollars, yet had never shown a profit even though the budget was only $32 million.

You can find other examples with a little searching.


In the business world, we call that "accounting fictions." Revenue is "real," expenses can be "unreal."

That's why actors with the most clout get a percent of the gross, not of the net.

Blogger Lyon May 31, 2018 5:34 PM  

I can't believe you said that!

I can't believe I had to hear that!

Make it go away so that I unheard what you just said.

Said the SJW.

And my response was laughter. Amusement. Whimsy.

Blogger MJimmy May 31, 2018 5:35 PM  

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Blogger MJimmy May 31, 2018 5:41 PM  

Star Wars franchise also in crisis:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_fUKgLn-NY&t=2s

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 31, 2018 5:49 PM  

Chris Mallory wrote:Howard Stone wrote:Trump just pardoned Dinesh! All Hail the God Emperor!!!!!

Because an Anti American, felon immigrant should be pardoned instead of stripped of his citizenship and deported?


No, because succoring this relatively harmless enemy discombobulates other enemies.

Chris Mallory wrote:Dinesh hates traditional Americans and our culture. He hates the nation created by the Founding Fathers.

The enemy of our enemy is an enemy, and a useful tool.

Blogger VoodooJock May 31, 2018 6:00 PM  

Point isn't whether profits are actually losses or losses are actually profits. The point is that their accounting methods allow them to show a profit when they want to show a profit and a loss when they want to show a loss. You can't rely on anything reported about how much money they're actually making or losing, even if they'd been certified as accurate by a big accounting firm.

This works to the SJW advantage. All monetary impacts are negligible in the grand scheme of things. They can flush a Roseanne down the toilet. It will or won't hurt them depending on who's asking and what face they want to show to them. They'll show a profit to investors. They'll plead poverty to talent represented by poor agents and the IRS.

Blogger Mark Stoval May 31, 2018 6:07 PM  

"It will or won't hurt them depending on who's asking and what face they want to show to them."

It is almost like you are saying that SJWs always lie. There might be a book in that someplace. :-)

Blogger Chris Mallory May 31, 2018 6:14 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:The enemy of our enemy is an enemy, and a useful tool.

Doesn't change the fact that he is still my enemy and actively works against my people.
All you are doing is playing into the hands of the magic dirt civic nationalists.

Blogger Howard Stone May 31, 2018 6:26 PM  

Love or hate Dinesh, he's just another character on the stage, but you can't deny the significance of this pardon.
Also, I was way ahead of the curve on 'not so rowdy' Gowdy.
His gender confused hairstyle was the dead give away for me.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey May 31, 2018 6:48 PM  

Dinesh isn’t the focus or the principle of Trump’s pardon. Trump is signaling. The pardon palette features Dinesh, Martha Stewart, Rod Blogovich and Scooter Libby. What is the commonality?

All of these prosecutions had ethical questions about being political prosecutions.

And, they featured a couple of interesting prosecutors: James Comey and Patrick Fitzgerald. By the way, today Comey’s lawyer is Patrick Fitzgerald.

Meanwhile, both are very tight with Robert Mueller. They are the FBI throuple. And, Mueller himself has some questionable prosecutions that are very troubling.

Trump is firing shots over all their bows. He’s telling them he’s onto them. And he will use power.

Blogger Phillip George May 31, 2018 6:57 PM  

This is Bob Iger. He fired Roseanne and has weird “standards”. He’s virtue signaling us, let’s do the same to him....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dehx_5pVAAAzsjT.jpg

Iger endorsing Harvey.....

Blogger Ian Stein May 31, 2018 7:06 PM  

SJW 's are suicidal and homicidal.
Commiekaze.

Anonymous Anonymous May 31, 2018 7:26 PM  

Stasi media whore (((Amy Zimmerman))) has a new scalp:

“ABC Canceled ‘Roseanne.’ What Will They Do About Their Alt-Right ‘Bachelorette’ Contestant?”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/abc-canceled-roseanne-what-will-they-do-about-their-alt-right-bachelorette-contestant

How soon before National Review endorses this new (((witch hunt)))?

Blogger Paul M May 31, 2018 9:47 PM  

"it is a very important lesson in the willingness, nay, the eagerness, of the SJWs to cut their own throats in order to virtue-signal."

They are not cutting their own throats. None of the virtue signallers will be permanently out of a job, or have to live on the street, or be worse off in any way at all. They will simply move over to another organisation in the process of being converged.

They are simply engaged in looting. After one place is looted and burned to the ground, they move on to the next one. Why are they doing it? Hatred. Pure and simple.

Blogger tz May 31, 2018 10:06 PM  

No one remembers that in the debates, Megyn Kelly (does she still have a show) asked about Trump's comment about women, and Trump replied "Only Rosanne Barr".

Blogger tz May 31, 2018 10:09 PM  

Would be using the term "cash cow" for Rosanne be insulting?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 31, 2018 10:27 PM  

"Profits that are probably actually losses given the twisted accounting methods that are the norm for that industry."

Twisted accounting methods are the norm for the entire financial industry, the foederal government, and the "federal" reserve.

Not even exaggerating slightly.

What I mean by this is that even if they collapse, if they're considered important enough as a propaganda mouthpiece, they'll be saved by TPTB, and we'll all happily pay for it in our invisible chains made of nothing but gullibility.

"They are simply engaged in looting. After one place is looted and burned to the ground, they move on to the next one. Why are they doing it? Hatred. Pure and simple."

"Misery loves company" is only half of the story. The other half is that it's easy and lucrative.

Blogger Akulkis May 31, 2018 10:32 PM  

@Al From Bay Shore

Shoring up the morale be of your subordinates, underlings, and supporters is exactly what good leaders do. Pointing out the moral failings of your opponent, and how they work against your side is required.

Blogger Avalanche May 31, 2018 10:33 PM  

@31 "Wait, you mean I could be fired for saying that Valerie Jarret shares 98 percent of her DNA with a chimpanzee?"

Yes of course, it's actually 99.8 percent of her DNA, so you're spreading leftie lies...

Blogger DonReynolds May 31, 2018 10:38 PM  

While he is firing shots over their bow, perhaps the president will pardon the unfortunate that was wisked off to prison for having made the "video" that Susan Rice (and everyone else) said CAUSED the attack on the American compound at Benghazi, Libya. Of course, the people who were rioting and murdering Americans had not even seen the video....but somehow, they heard about it, perhaps from Hillary Clinton's State Department.

This country does not jail people for YouTube videos, except when they do. Give him a pardon and spit in their eye. They lied like dogs, to all of us and put him on the chopping block to prove it.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 31, 2018 11:01 PM  

"it's actually 99.8 percent of her DNA"

Non-junk DNA. Then realize that geneticists considered the vast majority of DNA to be junk, and none of it actually is.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 31, 2018 11:02 PM  

Once you realize that the "genetic similarities" have been massaged with an auto-crusher in that manner, it shouldn't be difficult to understand the other ways it can and likely has been massaged.

Blogger Dan Kurt May 31, 2018 11:05 PM  

re: "...about Trump's comment about women, and Trump replied 'Only Rosanne Barr'." 94. tz

Wrong! Rosie O'Donnell not Rosanne Barr.

Dan Kurt

Blogger Jack Amok June 01, 2018 12:14 AM  

Because an Anti American, felon immigrant should be pardoned instead of stripped of his citizenship and deported?

You're missing the rather relevant point that he was punished for making a film critical of Saint Obama. That's why the people who prosecuted him should be jailed, bankrupted, and have their lives ruined if not ended. To make it clear that left-wing political thuggery has a price, even if the thuggery was directed at an over-hyped panjeet.

Blogger The Stygian June 01, 2018 12:56 AM  

Roseanne did what she needed to do, she reminded everyone how much of a evil cunt Valerie is. This wasn't by accident.

Blogger BriarRabbit June 01, 2018 5:14 AM  

Prepping is retreating?

I dropped out of the corporate world, obtained my childhood 15 acre farm, and am generating multiple revenue streams while turning it into a working farm and fortifying me and my family for what may come.

I'm also building community, acquiring new skills, and am getting a little more off-grid each year.

Hardly feels like I'm retreating. Digging in for the long haul, perhaps.

Blogger AaMcavoy June 01, 2018 11:45 AM  

BriarRabbit wrote:Prepping is retreating?

I dropped out of the corporate world, obtained my childhood 15 acre farm, and am generating multiple revenue streams while turning it into a working farm and fortifying me and my family for what may come.

I'm also building community, acquiring new skills, and am getting a little more off-grid each year.

Hardly feels like I'm retreating. Digging in for the long haul, perhaps.


You're not prepping. You're homesteading, which is another form of colonizing. If you also keep your kids close, then you're doing a good chunk of the heavy lifting for Western Civ.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 01, 2018 11:51 AM  

Chris Mallory wrote:Doesn't change the fact that he is still my enemy and actively works against my people.

Yes. If pardoning him hurts a more dangerous enemy, we should: a) hurt the more dangerous enemy, or b) let the more dangerous enemy go, because gosh darn it, it just isn't cricket to pardon an enemy.

One of those answers is stupidly wrong.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 01, 2018 12:09 PM  

BriarRabbit wrote:I dropped out of the corporate world, obtained my childhood 15 acre farm, and am generating multiple revenue streams while turning it into a working farm and fortifying me and my family for what may come.

You aren't the only one doing that.

Blogger matism June 01, 2018 12:32 PM  

What is truly special, Al From Bay Shore, is that Jarrett looks that way WITHOUT any makeup!

Blogger Howard Stone June 01, 2018 6:01 PM  

Hey Ben Shapiro didn’t agree with the pardon either, so he’s in good company.

Blogger dfordoom June 01, 2018 10:13 PM  

41. Timmy3

Roseanne will find success at any Network that wants her.

I think you'll find that no network will touch her with a barge-pole.

Her original show played a major role in opening the floodgates of degeneracy on prime-time TV. I can't imagine being so cucked that I'd consider Roseanne to be an ally.

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