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Monday, May 07, 2018

Alex Jones show

I'll be going on it to discuss Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson at 2:30 Eastern today. Discuss amongst yourselves....

It was definitely a high-energy interview. My favorite part was this:

Alex Jones: "WE DON'T NEED JORDAN PETERSON TELLING US HOW TO WIPE OUR ASSES!"

I didn't misrepresent Jordan Peterson at all. I can conclusively support my case, which is constructed entirely upon his own words. The cargo cultist reaction is about what one would expect.
And this guest is the worst. Totally misrepresented Jordan Peterson entirely. From basic stuff like "Rule two: Take your pills" to big stuff like calling him fundamentally unbalanced, when Jordan answers questions like "do you believe in God" with "I act as if God exists, now you can interpret if you think i believe in God". These are not the ramblings of an unbalanced person, like this guest appears to think, but the well thought out and articulated answers to fundamental questions Peterson addresses constantly.

You guys are really throwing the baby out with the bathwater on this one and losing credibility FAST.
The funny thing is that it is always Peterson's fans who misrepresent him. Usually because they a) haven't actually read his books or b) don't understand what he is saying.

I did a Darkstream on the subject of Peterson's core purpose. This is the passage from Maps of Meaning that directed me towards that purpose which I discussed on the show with Mr. Jones.
The great forces of empiricism and rationality and the great technique of the experiment have killed myth, and it cannot be resurrected—or so it seems. We still act out the precepts of our forebears, nonetheless, although we can no longer justify our actions. Our behavior is shaped (at least in the ideal) by the same mythic rules—thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet—that guided our ancestors for the thousands of years they lived without benefit of formal empirical thought. This means that those rules are so powerful—so necessary, at least—that they maintain their existence (and expand their domain) even in the presence of explicit theories that undermine their validity. That is a mystery. And here is another:

How is it that complex and admirable ancient civilizations could have developed and flourished, initially, if they were predicated upon nonsense? (If a culture survives, and grows, does that not indicate in some profound way that the ideas it is based upon are valid? If myths are mere superstitious proto-theories, why did they work? Why were they remembered? Our great rationalist ideologies, after all—fascist, say, or communist— demonstrated their essential uselessness within the space of mere generations, despite their intellectually compelling nature. Traditional societies, predicated on religious notions, have survived—essentially unchanged, in some cases, for tens of thousands of years. How can this longevity be understood?) Is it actually sensible to argue that persistently successful traditions are based on ideas that are simply wrong, regardless of their utility?

Is it not more likely that we just do not know how it could be that traditional notions are right, given their appearance of extreme irrationality?

Is it not likely that this indicates modern philosophical ignorance, rather than ancestral philosophical error?
Peterson's initial error is that he still accepts the false assumptions of the rationalists and claiming myth is dead. I'll explain the consequences of that error in the Darkstream.

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Blogger SamuraiJack May 07, 2018 12:21 PM  

America First! https://youtu.be/rhWv5zpdsoo

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 07, 2018 12:40 PM  

Alex Jones memes are best memes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iHt1UQK4e4

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 07, 2018 12:42 PM  

Hey Vox,

Make Alex Great Again!!!

Blogger Jon D. May 07, 2018 12:42 PM  

Is there a link to the show up yet?

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 07, 2018 12:45 PM  

Jon D. wrote:Is there a link to the show up yet?

https://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show/
Just make sure to click the blue bar thats says "live show" youtube doesnt seem to want to stream the show.

Blogger Trid May 07, 2018 12:46 PM  

Make Frogs Straight Again

OpenID Rusty May 07, 2018 12:47 PM  

Can you ask him if he thinks it's possible that Ben Shapiro has been drinking too much gay frog water?

Blogger Peaceful Poster May 07, 2018 12:50 PM  

Make Frogs Straight Again!

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 07, 2018 12:53 PM  

Maybe Alex Jones is just using you as a prop to demonstrate how Shapiro and Peterson just need some SUPER MALE VITALITY!

Blogger Sigurd Jorsalfar May 07, 2018 12:53 PM  

@2 Man i love me some AJ memes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqGhZumfRTA

Haven't seen the show in ages but the man is a meme machine supreme. can't wait!

Blogger Peaceful Poster May 07, 2018 12:55 PM  

AJ knows what's up.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah May 07, 2018 12:56 PM  

Vox, does JBP have a nickname yet? Littlest Chickenhawk and Kermit Mad Hatter?

Blogger Solaire Of Astora May 07, 2018 1:02 PM  

This is the youtube stream. I got it from Jone's twitter page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlmYatrSHyM

People can use this if they prefer it to the Infowars website for whatever reason.

Blogger Mocheirge May 07, 2018 1:02 PM  

ReluctantMessiah wrote:Vox, does JBP have a nickname yet? Littlest Chickenhawk and Kermit Mad Hatter?

Jor Dan Hubbard?

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 07, 2018 1:02 PM  

Maple Messiah works for me

Blogger Elijah May 07, 2018 1:03 PM  

is it true that you can tell if a dude is a gamma by his height? see Ben shapiro

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 07, 2018 1:14 PM  

@10 Drinking Game: Take a shot every time he says Globalist(s)

Blogger YIH May 07, 2018 1:16 PM  

ghostfromplanetspook wrote:Jon D. wrote:Is there a link to the show up yet?

https://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show/

Just make sure to click the blue bar thats says "live show" youtube doesnt seem to want to stream the show.

Even simpler, just go to the Infowars main site look on the right side for ''Watch live now'' and click on the play button

Blogger Astrosmith May 07, 2018 1:16 PM  

Please get "Littlest Chickenhawk" into the Alex Jones lexicon.

Blogger Miguel May 07, 2018 1:18 PM  

Have a nice one.

Blogger Peaceful Poster May 07, 2018 1:20 PM  

Crazy Christ is about to be crucified by the Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil.

Blogger electricsheeple May 07, 2018 1:24 PM  

Jordan Peterson is turning the frogs gay!

Blogger RevDanTheMan May 07, 2018 1:25 PM  

OK everyone, in a short period of time this Blog of ours will be inundated by a great many first time visitors so let's put on our best face! (or not).

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 07, 2018 1:25 PM  

I know that Alex Jones doesn't like Ben Shapiro, so hopefully the interview won't get bogged down in setting up too many axioms.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 07, 2018 1:31 PM  

Alex Jones laying into Shapiro on May 3rd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_OJzgA1zmg

In this video, Jones even talks about Glenn Beck and Peterson as frauds.

Blogger Al K. Annossow May 07, 2018 1:35 PM  

I couldn't resist the off topic call to generate some names for our villain of the month.

"Repackage Peterson"
It's not strictly true, but I'm trying to convey that he is no more useful than predecessors and will likely also fade ("thinking past the sale").

"Pierless Peterson"
OK, this is only a pun implying that he is unmoored.

"Take Some Pills Peterson"
I'm trying to convey an artificiality to his solutions although most people probably didn't notice the take your pills part in his message.

"Perambulating Peterson"
To me it connotes a roaming, not getting anywhere quality.
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It will sidetrack Alex into speaking his own thoughts, but use specifics like Ben Shapiro as ties to other, bigger, related points you would rather make. Alex liked it when Scott Adams used bigger ideas, clearer thinking, and better examples than he uses. E.g how unbridled relative Truth goes against the message of Christianity and leads to a corrupt society.

Blogger LP999-16 May 07, 2018 1:36 PM  

Ron Gibson's feed is the best; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7bInSnhgzM

Blogger LP999-16 May 07, 2018 1:38 PM  

24 Keep in mind Beck, Rubin, Ben and now loosely perhaps Jordan all talk, Ben called the 12 steps or rules a great book on a recent sit down over the weekend, heard some of it at youtube.

Blogger S. Thermite May 07, 2018 1:39 PM  

“This is the face five-year-olds make when they play GI Joe.” - Alex Jones, last week while showing a photo of Tiny Ben Sapiro’s goofy smirk.

Blogger Ricardo Jordan May 07, 2018 1:40 PM  

I watched the video of Peterson debating atheist Matt Dillahunty - he did well except that he referred to parts of the Bible as "stories" and he was debating in favor of a "god," not the God of the Bible.

Blogger Nate May 07, 2018 1:56 PM  

discussing controlled opposition... on the literal home of controlled opposition.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 07, 2018 1:59 PM  

@31 Probably true

Blogger ReluctantMessiah May 07, 2018 2:00 PM  

@15 The Maple Maniac

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams May 07, 2018 2:04 PM  

I hope Vox gets more words in than, "Thanks, Alex. It's nice to be--"

Blogger S. Thermite May 07, 2018 2:06 PM  

Yup, I was just talking about that irony with a prior Alex Jones fan last week. Can’t remember how many years ago we figured he was COIN, but it was well before Shapirio and Peterson had any media relevance.

Blogger Salt May 07, 2018 2:10 PM  

What coffee does Jones drink that gets him so wired?

Blogger Nate May 07, 2018 2:16 PM  

honestly... this is such a Vox thing to do... because how can anyone thing that going on Alex Jones' show would not be fun? I mean something bizarre and wierd is almost guaranteed to happen.

Blogger Eli May 07, 2018 2:16 PM  

"What coffee does Jones drink that gets him so wired?"
Isn't it all just an act?

Blogger lowercaseb May 07, 2018 2:25 PM  

Preach it...On my bucket list is to one day do shots with Alex Jones and discuss conspiracy theories on the air.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 07, 2018 2:29 PM  

Woo its time !

Blogger Ingot9455 May 07, 2018 2:29 PM  

Quality lead-in. Powerful information coming our way.

Blogger SouthRon May 07, 2018 2:29 PM  

Queue invasion of the Jonesites in 3...2...1...

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 2:32 PM  

AJ just said coming up: Vox Day some powerful information

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 2:35 PM  


Judeo Peterson and the PBJs

Blogger Quilp May 07, 2018 2:36 PM  

Alex Jones on FNC? Do it!

Blogger LP999-16 May 07, 2018 2:37 PM  

Excellent Intro

Alex Jones 'was aware of Vox Day for 5 or 6 years.'

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams May 07, 2018 2:41 PM  

Excellent job so far from Vox and Alex Jones.

Blogger lowercaseb May 07, 2018 2:42 PM  

Man...VD's voice and presence is top notch right now. The work he has been putting in on his delivery is REALLY paying off.

Blogger Nate May 07, 2018 2:43 PM  

holy hell... this is a beat down...

Blogger Peaceful Poster May 07, 2018 2:44 PM  

Alex is giving VD lots of time to speak.

Respect.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 2:45 PM  

I'm very happy with Vox appearance so far - he is delivering a lot of info to a yuuuge audience.

Blogger Jake May 07, 2018 2:46 PM  

Missed beginning but will re-watch tonight. Glad you had the mojo and guts to go on AJ. He's unique, whatever you think of him.

Blogger VD May 07, 2018 2:46 PM  

I was a little taken aback; I was expecting more interruptions so I prepared very short sound bites.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 07, 2018 2:47 PM  

Vox is sitting in The Red Chair of Evil. Superb.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 2:48 PM  

I got a beautiful screen cap haha - of AJ watching Vox on the big ass screen :P

Blogger Nate May 07, 2018 2:49 PM  

"I was a little taken aback; I was expecting more interruptions so I prepared very short sound bites."

I am disappointed that more crazy didn't come out. I mean he did mention the Illuminati about 10 seconds into the Intro... so there's that

Blogger Eli May 07, 2018 2:49 PM  

Ha, this very post got a mention.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 07, 2018 2:51 PM  

My post made it onto the show :D

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener May 07, 2018 2:52 PM  

"I mean he did mention the Illuminati about 10 seconds into the Intro... so there's that"

Sponsors usually do like to get mentioned.

Blogger RC May 07, 2018 2:53 PM  

I've never witnessed AJ giving his interview subject so much space. Fascinating.

Blogger RC May 07, 2018 2:53 PM  

I loved that you worked in the pillars of Western Civilization.

Blogger Quilp May 07, 2018 2:56 PM  

Vox nailed it, Peterson is acting as the right flank of the left, doing the left's bidding by declaring anyone to the right of him to be extreme. That, in my opinion, is the reason for his obsession with the Holocaust.

Blogger #7139 May 07, 2018 2:57 PM  

Doing a great job, Vox.

Blogger JAU May 07, 2018 2:58 PM  

The Darkstreams are really paying off, Vox. Your live presentation is worlds better than two years ago.

Blogger Vaughan Williams May 07, 2018 2:58 PM  

Missed it. Hope the link shows up soon.

Blogger SouthRon May 07, 2018 2:58 PM  

Alex Jones just had his mind blown. "Why hasn't this guy been on?"

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams May 07, 2018 2:58 PM  

Alex let Vox talk about saving Western Civilization.

Alex just asked "why isn't he on more" or something like that.

Blogger John May 07, 2018 2:58 PM  

Guys it's still going. And it's awesome. Commercial break right now.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams May 07, 2018 2:59 PM  

@65 https://www.infowars.com/

More to come after commercials.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 07, 2018 2:59 PM  

Fucking awesome.

Jones: "We don't need to be taught how to wipe our ass by Jordan Peterson!"

Blogger Ingot9455 May 07, 2018 2:59 PM  

Bonus points for the use of The Littlest Chickenhawk. Gained a lot of brutal speed and power in the second segment.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 07, 2018 2:59 PM  

@65 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7bInSnhgzM Just scroll back a bit and enjoy!

Blogger OGRE May 07, 2018 3:00 PM  

@70 haha yeah i'm still smiling on that one

and thats quite the compliment from AJ about VD

Blogger Jon D. May 07, 2018 3:00 PM  

Great job, Vox. I think the point came across really well. I stopped watching a lot of the Fox News programs and paying attention to folk like Shapiro when I discovered this blog a couple of years ago, because of the controlled opposition element. It's pretty easy to spot. Is Jones' point on the National Review being funded by the CIA accurate? That's an interesting point.

Blogger Super Snake May 07, 2018 3:00 PM  

"Why hasn't Vox Day been on bfore? This guy's awesome"

-AJ

Blogger RevDanTheMan May 07, 2018 3:00 PM  

OUTSTANDING... Alex Jones want Vox on his show MORE OFTEN...holy crap!

Blogger Salt May 07, 2018 3:01 PM  

"I was expecting more interruptions so I prepared very short sound bites."

Excellent job Vox, working on the fly.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 3:01 PM  

Here is the screen cap -
https://i.imgflip.com/29tf08.jpg

Blogger Super Snake May 07, 2018 3:02 PM  

I'm glad Peterson is getting BTFO on such a large platform. This guy has been shilling for safe rightwing thought for far too long.

Blogger Super Snake May 07, 2018 3:04 PM  

My only complaint from AJ is claiming that the alt-right is funded by Hillary and Soros. The eternal boomer boogiemen

Blogger Ingot9455 May 07, 2018 3:05 PM  

Take your pills. Brave New World. A half a gramme is better than a damme.

Blogger RevDanTheMan May 07, 2018 3:07 PM  

Dare I say, Vox on Rogan soon?

Blogger lowercaseb May 07, 2018 3:08 PM  

Good Lord! This is a rhetorical boot party on both JP and Li'l Benji...

Blogger Nathan May 07, 2018 3:08 PM  

If anyone is looking for a laugh, someone set an Alex Jones rant to Bon Iver-esque music. It is sublime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg

Blogger Vaughan Williams May 07, 2018 3:09 PM  

@72 thank you!

Blogger Xellos May 07, 2018 3:10 PM  

Make Frogs Straight Again!

Rusty wrote:Can you ask him if he thinks it's possible that Ben Shapiro has been drinking too much gay frog water?

Nah, he was born that way.

Blogger JustBob May 07, 2018 3:11 PM  

Vox is killing it....

For those that miss the live stream - check the Ron Gibson channel for commercial free recap.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYv-5LsUyc_P8KMo7YGPFPA

Blogger LP999-16 May 07, 2018 3:14 PM  

Fantastic!

Blogger Arthur Tintagel May 07, 2018 3:17 PM  

JBP needs to put down his pills and take some Super Male Vitality instead.

Blogger Super Snake May 07, 2018 3:17 PM  

booo, Jones cut VD off before he could mention Shapiro's duel citizenship with Our Greatest Ally lolol

Blogger Ingot9455 May 07, 2018 3:18 PM  

Ben Shapiro definitely has a big Jewish audience (quelle surprise) for the desperate Jews with some rationality to them who want to be Republican/etc. He talks Jew to them and they respond. Which is kind of the point about his being a way to define the rightest right as being pretty close to the Left.

Blogger tz May 07, 2018 3:18 PM  

Glenn Beck and his chorus (Pat, Stu, Jeffie) will replace Benji "Chickenhawk" Shapiro. He's Mitt Romneycare good Mormon but in the media, and he needs money, so will sell his soul.

Blogger Nate May 07, 2018 3:18 PM  

VOX! HANG UP BEFORE HE OFFERS YOU A SHOW

Blogger RevDanTheMan May 07, 2018 3:19 PM  

It looks like Alex Jones is keeping Vox on longer than scheduled...powerful.

Blogger S'mon May 07, 2018 3:19 PM  

Just caught it from 8pm, good stuff. VD handles AJ very well.

Blogger lowercaseb May 07, 2018 3:20 PM  

I am blown away on how well VD has adapted and is rolling with AJ's rhythm and speaking style. A lot of AJ's guests get unintentionally derailed when he gets excited and jumps in. VD keeps his momentum going even with the interruptions. This is a REALLY good appearance.

Blogger riffer73 May 07, 2018 3:20 PM  

Very good. I haven't had a chance to work my way through the Jordan Peterson stuff, but I was suspicious of why he hasn't been deplatformed by the MSM.

Blogger Sigurd Jorsalfar May 07, 2018 3:22 PM  

This was TOP-NOTCH!

Great delivery from both Vox an AJ. And you actually play well off each other. i have been grinning through the whole thing so far.

Bonus points for AJ staying coherent as well. I think that only happens when he is learning something important/ is having an epiphany.

Blogger Shamgar May 07, 2018 3:24 PM  

The Chat in YouTube is full of JBP defenders.

Blogger Shamgar May 07, 2018 3:25 PM  

@82 Vox on Rogan probably not. Rogan is a pothead midwit. Entertaining, but not up to the same level.

Blogger Nate May 07, 2018 3:27 PM  

" Entertaining, but not up to the same level."

...

this is a joke right?

Blogger lowercaseb May 07, 2018 3:28 PM  

Shamgar wrote:The Chat in YouTube is full of JBP defenders.

Shouldn't they be cleaning their rooms?

Blogger Ingot9455 May 07, 2018 3:30 PM  

The two of you make a good combination. AJ is the manic energy, Vox is the measured bulldozer.

Blogger Salt May 07, 2018 3:30 PM  

lowercaseb wrote:Shamgar wrote:The Chat in YouTube is full of JBP defenders.

Shouldn't they be cleaning their rooms?


They haven't taken their pills so they forgot.

Blogger John May 07, 2018 3:30 PM  

Vox you are adapting to video pretty darn well.

Blogger Dire Badger May 07, 2018 3:30 PM  

well.... did you enjoy your interview with Alex, Vox? It looked... strenuous. Mostly because he has this habit of trying to break down and simplify what you say, and sometimes going WAY outside of your meaning when he does.

Blogger Nate May 07, 2018 3:30 PM  

Alex is smitten

Blogger Sweep the Leg May 07, 2018 3:31 PM  

You nailed it! Great interview.

I could see Alex's light bulb coming on during many of your comments. Do go back on soon.

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 07, 2018 3:31 PM  

Super job.

Blogger Cetera May 07, 2018 3:31 PM  

Sigurd Jorsalfar wrote:This was TOP-NOTCH!

Great delivery from both Vox an AJ. And you actually play well off each other. i have been grinning through the whole thing so far.

Bonus points for AJ staying coherent as well. I think that only happens when he is learning something important/ is having an epiphany.


Yeah, it was several good segments. It seemed genuinely interesting and new to Jones, and it sounds like he held Vox over with more time and an additional segment.

Nice work, VD!

Blogger OGRE May 07, 2018 3:31 PM  

That went very well. Great job VD

Blogger Meimou May 07, 2018 3:32 PM  

SouthRonMay
Queue invasion of the Jonesites in 3...2...1.

There is overlap bewteen Jones and VD, some of us are already here.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams May 07, 2018 3:32 PM  

Great job! Please go back on if asked.

Blogger RevDanTheMan May 07, 2018 3:32 PM  

Great job, Vox!

Blessings.

Blogger electricsheeple May 07, 2018 3:35 PM  

VD is coming off very well and I believe he will be asked back by Alex. He's also used the Alt Right dog whistle, saying "Multi culturalism has failed" and couple other comments along those lines. Very good day for Vox.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 3:35 PM  

@99 Shamgar
The Chat in YouTube is full of JBP defenders.
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Yep, i was enjoy chatting with them.
Was calling them PBJs and they need to clean their rooms and take their meds.

Blogger Sim1776 May 07, 2018 3:35 PM  

@Jon D.

TNR/CIA funding speculation comes from the academic and professional circles in which key players operated as well as the source of the funds to set up the "nonprofit." It wouldn't surprise me as Buckley is the original neocon.

Blogger veryfunnyminion May 07, 2018 3:36 PM  

Just wanted to pile on and say excellent job Vox, I found you and Alex played off each other very well.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 07, 2018 3:37 PM  

Great show!

Blogger Bogey May 07, 2018 3:38 PM  

Good show. Vox was kept longer do to Jones' being extremely intrigued in what Vox had to say.

Blogger Richard Holmes May 07, 2018 3:38 PM  

Alex is smitten - Nate

I agree, well done VD.. What surprised me more was I WAS able to follow and actually understand it. This is a first for me.

Blogger Meimou May 07, 2018 3:39 PM  

S. ThermiteMay
Yup, I was just talking about that irony with a prior Alex Jones fan last week. Can’t remember how many years ago we figured he was COIN, but it was well before Shapirio and Peterson had any media relevance

Been hearing this for years, the only evidence i have seen is that Jones doesn't name the J, pulls his punches when it cones to Israel, and stopped calling out Israel on 911...the dancing Israelis stopped being relevant some years ago...apparently.

This is not enough to call a patriot with a 20+ year record COIN.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 3:40 PM  

Good job all around. In one of the youtube chat feed, most people seem interested in vox. A few PBJs there crying the blues. Only saw one nazi larp come in cryin' about how VD is the new WFB.

Blogger Eli May 07, 2018 3:40 PM  

That was really impressive. I've only ever watched clips of Alex and never full segments so was not sure how you two would interact. Turns out you both work really well together. You covered a lot of ground and even got a surprise Alt-Hero mention in there. Not that you need praise from a random follower, but well done Vox.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) May 07, 2018 3:41 PM  

Outstanding job vox.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 3:41 PM  

@122 Meimou

This is not enough to call a patriot with a 20+ year record COIN.
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Yeah people say that but they never give a reason for it.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 3:43 PM  

Matt Braken just referenced Vox in his monologue - about how the overarching goal of the state is to replace God.

Blogger Jake May 07, 2018 3:44 PM  

Good job. You kept it real, and probably opened the minds of some libertarian types to the truth of the principles of the alt-right.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) May 07, 2018 3:45 PM  

I'm looking forward to the debut of The Vox Day Show on info wars

Blogger Dave May 07, 2018 3:45 PM  

That NRA commercial was very good. Vox was good too, throwing plugs out there for Voxiversity and Arkhaven. Nice job Vox.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 3:54 PM  

Again Braken mentions - Vox Day was completely right. We need to support national leaders - or we will all end up serfs in the NWO.
My paraphrase.

Blogger John May 07, 2018 4:01 PM  

By the way... AJ does not sound very much like controlled opposition to me.

Blogger Ex Caliburn May 07, 2018 4:05 PM  

By the way... AJ does not sound very much like controlled opposition to me.

That's what they want you to think.

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 4:07 PM  

But what do you want us to think?

Blogger Stephen Pierce May 07, 2018 4:08 PM  

"Crazy Christ" nails so many like Maxwell .I am your new fan.

Blogger Shamgar May 07, 2018 4:11 PM  

Nate, yeah Rogan can be entertaining. He's a comic so that's what he does.
@116, "PBJs" yeah I saw some of them typing actually typing his name like that, without noticing.

Blogger Peaceful Poster May 07, 2018 4:12 PM  

So many zingers!

"Getting someone to clean their room doesn't do any good when the devil is entering in."

"They want to eat the fruit of the tree while cutting it down."

"The next Jordon Peterson will be someone who isn't mentally disturbed."

"The next Ben Shapiro will be someone who is actually an American."

Blogger Matthew McDaniel May 07, 2018 4:14 PM  

I’m glad your chair made an appearance. Would’ve been better if your drank a nice Italian wine from a skull

Blogger Jefferson Kim May 07, 2018 4:17 PM  

SKULL CRUSHER!!!

Blogger Jefferson Kim May 07, 2018 4:18 PM  

If tuning in the next couple hours, you can jump back couple hours on their live feed to watch the interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-un1hyXngTM

Blogger David. D May 07, 2018 4:22 PM  

I have always felt JBP message didnt feel right. It was a pure instinctual feeling. Thank you Vox for putting that feeling into words in a perfect manner. Great guy!

Blogger Were-Puppy May 07, 2018 4:27 PM  

@136 Shamgar
@116, "PBJs" yeah I saw some of them typing actually typing his name like that, without noticing.
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That's funny. I meant it more as his followers -
Hey kid, clean your room, take your meds, and here, I made you a PBJ for lunch.

Blogger Carbon Based Greg May 07, 2018 4:31 PM  

My entry in the JBP nickname contest: Kermit the Prog.

Blogger John Best May 07, 2018 4:31 PM  

Excellent, Vox says something and Alex makes fireworks happen.

Blogger Chiva May 07, 2018 4:36 PM  

Nicely done. Congratulations.

Blogger RC May 07, 2018 4:37 PM  

If Jones is controlled opposition they're doing a magnificent job selling it: lawsuits, Stone, high-level inside info, his guest list, etc.

He is a courageous man laying it on the line who admittedly dances around the JQ and identity politics but he nails many things, is still learning, and we probably would have President Rodham were it not for his influence, among others. If that's COIN, it's deep op COIN and I'd get lost following the recursion.

Blogger tz May 07, 2018 4:40 PM  

This is what you get when two intelligent, honest people discuss something. Great interview.

Blogger Crew May 07, 2018 4:58 PM  

If Jones is controlled opposition they're doing a magnificent job selling it: lawsuits, Stone, high-level inside info, his guest list, etc.

Well, they have to make it look real! Or real fake, whatever.

Blogger Bilroy May 07, 2018 5:07 PM  

Great job, Vox. I noticed that you followed every one of Alex's rants with a 'Yes, and...'. Simple improvisation but it worked wonders. Hope you'll be making more appearances from now on.

Blogger JustBob May 07, 2018 5:08 PM  

Link to the commercial free recap:

https://youtu.be/_YpS_p44o2A?t=22m30s

continued in the 4th hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWojuMu5msw

Blogger Rocklea Marina May 07, 2018 5:15 PM  

Excellent job!
It's all been declassified,
We have the documents,
That was amazing.

Blogger Mark Cook May 07, 2018 5:18 PM  

Great Job Vox. So much substance in such a short, interrupted, time.

Blogger linedog May 07, 2018 5:30 PM  

Reader since WND. Great job and nice to see additional exposure to
larger audience.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 07, 2018 5:52 PM  

I can't be the only one that wants to see "Littlest Chickenhawk" enter the mainstream.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 07, 2018 5:58 PM  

It's an act, Jones' manic intensity. I've been in the studio with Jones before, and during commercial breaks he's business, conferring with his production staff, setting up the next segments etc.

Blogger Jack Ward May 07, 2018 6:03 PM  

Really, really good. Vox and Jones seem to be a natural interviewer and interviewee. I wasn't able to see live but the utube replay was still up. How long? Who knows? Maybe utube is getting gun-shy with all the criticism and Trump seems to keep winning. So, maybe they are hedging bets. Yeah! Like it. I hope Vox will do more with Alex Jones.

Blogger R Webfoot May 07, 2018 6:03 PM  

It did sound like you were implying that Jordanetics will somehow be used to rationalize sex with children... I haven't caught a whiff of that yet, but I have neither read Maps of Meaning nor Kabbalah.

Blogger Ian Stein May 07, 2018 6:04 PM  

Good stuff. Watched the whole thing.
Alex was into it and listening intently to what you were saying.

Blogger Teleros May 07, 2018 6:05 PM  

For those who just want the Vox Day interview, I grabbed the 2 videos from that ad-free channel & stitched the VD parts together. It's rather large for a 42min file (nearly 9GB..., but first time for everything - I'll figure out video compression stuff later, if I ever want to get into this more. In the mean time, here's a magnet link to it:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3565FD1D3F8E022283AB8A03FE01140C97BD1C7E&dn=Alex%20Jones%20Interview%202018.05.07.avi&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce

Blogger jaericho May 07, 2018 6:10 PM  

Handbrake is dead simple to re-compress a video file.

Blogger MendoScot May 07, 2018 6:14 PM  

Sweet. Great how you kept your focus with his frogging.

Blogger VD May 07, 2018 6:16 PM  

It did sound like you were implying that Jordanetics will somehow be used to rationalize sex with children.

I don't think so, at least, I haven't seen any signs of that yet.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 07, 2018 6:20 PM  

Walter Breen didn't think any child he had sex with was suffering, rather he was enabling them to gain self consciousness.

Blogger Lucius Cincinnatus May 07, 2018 6:27 PM  

Alex Jones *Needs* to have you on more and for longer. The subject matter you cover is of the utmost importance. Also, if you have specific steps that can help support nationalist / Pro-Western Civilization movements, definitely broadcast that to his audience.

Blogger Matthew May 07, 2018 6:29 PM  

Radio Programs Which Wound From Behind

Blogger FUBARwest May 07, 2018 6:30 PM  

"It did sound like you were implying that Jordanetics will somehow be used to rationalize sex with children."

"I don't think so, at least, I haven't seen any signs of that yet."

For what it's worth, when you started I thought you were going in that direction too because you had just gotten done saying a hueristic for evil is: does it allow or justify sex with kids.

It isnt a big deal and you definitely did not go there by the time you finished your point. You did a very good job working and bouncing off of Jones in a natural way while putting out really good information.

Job well done and I hope more eyes get drawn to you because of it.

Have you gotten any responses from it yet? Those in the PBJ brigade who have seen it are getting very defensive and protective.

Blogger Matthew May 07, 2018 6:30 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Walter Breen didn't think any child he had sex with was suffering, rather he was enabling them to gain self consciousness.

That's what he claimed, but of course deep inside he knew, because it had happened to him.

Blogger Unknown May 07, 2018 6:33 PM  

Well, if primacy of the individual is of the utmost importance like it is to Peterson, then if an individual wishes for and tries to get "ethical" and consensual child sex, it's kinda hard for Jordan to disagree with him. If he does he may have to potentially contradict himself. It's the philosophy of a totally mentally unhinged video. It can go anywhere.

Blogger Mr. Deficient May 07, 2018 7:03 PM  

@168 no, because in JBPs view, evolution had taken care of this by producing religion. Child abuse does not benefit survival, that gets encoded in our actions, which get encoded into our ideas of a hero, which gives rise to the Abrahamic religions.

This is probably wrong but atleadt it accounts for religion in a Darwinian perspective unlike new atheists.

Blogger Lovekraft May 07, 2018 7:04 PM  

Well done. Showed a side of the alt-right most people never see.

The problem with alt-white is it boils truth down to skin colour and, to some extent, lineage/geneology to determine the power hierarchy.

On the other end is SJW/cultural marxism's Victim Hierarchy and, of course, their legion of dedicated of loyal state enforcers of said power structure.

Two sides of the same coin - attempting to control human nature via man-made philosophy.

Subtle hints were dropped by Vox in this interview as to what is going to be needed in order to secure a nation. The three pillars. Defining the outsider (jihad. No Aztek?). Even, by outlining how the SJWs, who dominate much of the social discourse, are anti-nationalist.

The hard questions are inevitable: what ethnic, demographic composition is each nation to have, and how will it be maintained (or changes mitigated)?

Blogger Meimou May 07, 2018 7:23 PM  

@Teleros
Thanks, but it would be easier to download it from ron gibson.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fWojuMu5msw

Blogger Archella May 07, 2018 7:32 PM  

Was excellent. Hope he brings you back again.

Blogger MJimmy May 07, 2018 7:35 PM  

OT: Dilbert begins to hate.

Blogger Nate73 May 07, 2018 7:38 PM  

You know I used to make fun of Jones for all the supplement ads. But ever since I read that article about the journalist who came out and said "Hey this is all just for ads" it's harder to do that now. How is a multivitamin really any different than the brand new 1985 Chevy Impala?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 07, 2018 7:38 PM  

"OK everyone, in a short period of time this Blog of ours will be inundated by a great many first time visitors so let's put on our best face!"

The one with piranha teeth, or should I go with the mechanized rotary shark jaws?

Blogger Nate May 07, 2018 7:43 PM  

"I don't think so, at least, I haven't seen any signs of that yet."

Even pattern recognition has its limits... but the signs and patterns for JP indicate absolutely nothing of the sort.

He is a completely different kind of broken by all appearances... and the kind of broken he is would even indicate that he has compassion for children that would preclude kiddy diddling.

anything is possible... but that accusation is a reach I would damn sure not take right now.

Blogger Freddy May 07, 2018 7:53 PM  

Boom! like Barry Bonds into McCovey Cove, SPLASH

Blogger Freddy May 07, 2018 7:54 PM  

Boom! like Barry Bonds into McCovey Cove, SPLASH

Blogger Freddy May 07, 2018 8:01 PM  

"SPLASH" equals a grand slam. Ha!

Blogger Ghog May 07, 2018 8:06 PM  

I'm intersted to know your (Vox) assessment of Alex Jones. I have always thought that despite Alex' manic behavior, he is a very intelligent and well read man. Also, He treated you very well with few outbursts or interruptions. I enjoyed what you both had to say. I think Ales had a good time too.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira May 07, 2018 8:27 PM  

That was my favourite part too. Alex has a way with words.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus May 07, 2018 8:31 PM  

Thank you, Vox Day. Now I can forward a link to the interview video to select normies who will anticipate Jones' customary bombast and witness the smoothing effect you exerted on Jones there as well as your own analysis of JP which admittedly I took issue with until I actually pored through your observations and was persuaded quickly the positions you have adopted are indeed correct ones.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 07, 2018 8:31 PM  

OT but schadenfreude city! Check out Drudge! Schneiderman, another #metoo male feminist, is going down flames, and Trump knew five years ago!!!! How about that NYC social network!!!

Blogger Ceasar May 07, 2018 8:36 PM  

"Peterson's initial error is that he still accepts the false assumptions of the rationalists and claiming myth is dead."

This is my main issue with Peterson. Perfect example of someone using something while proclaiming it does not exist. Talk about obtuse.

Blogger OGRE May 07, 2018 8:57 PM  

How does JP classify fascism and communism as 'rationalist' ideologies? They certainly didn't develop from any rationalist school of philosophy; they both find their roots in Hegel and Darwin who are both empiricists. Both came out of the 'continental' framework of philosophy--the same framework that JP is employing, coincidentally--which developed from the british empiricists. Contrast that with the path that rationalism took through Thomas Reid and the Common Sense school into C.S.Pierce and then the analytic philosophers such as Russel and Wittgenstein.

Or is some other definition of rationalist being used here?

Blogger tuberman May 07, 2018 9:43 PM  

Excellent interview. Alex did show unusual interest and respect for what you talked about.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 07, 2018 10:04 PM  

Schneiderman just resigned as NY AG. Damn that has to be a record. Two hours from breaking on Drudge to resignation/political assassination.

Blogger Playto May 07, 2018 10:08 PM  

I'm gonna shill this on the jp subreddit.

Blogger bw May 07, 2018 10:18 PM  

with Mr. Jones

heh

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener May 07, 2018 10:21 PM  

"Schneiderman just resigned as NY AG."

So -- will he fly straight to Tel Aviv or will he go to Canada first?

Blogger Archella May 07, 2018 10:37 PM  

I hope you get a book sale bump from this. I saw parts 1, and 2 live, and just now am watching parts 3 and 4, and they are even more amazing. This is a big deal.

Blogger Looking Glass May 07, 2018 10:43 PM  

@187 Stg58/Animal Mother

Ronan Farrow has taken another scalp. The Trump Presidency has opened up cross-Elite payback opportunities. The knives are out for everyone, in the hopes of being the ones to get out clean. We've left "The Trump Curse" and we're entering into the "Wrath of the Donald - The Revenge Tour".

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 07, 2018 10:51 PM  

Farrow has indeed. I've read his dad is Sinatra. Definitely has enough moxie to qualify.

Blogger Chief Osage May 07, 2018 10:52 PM  

"Ronan Farrow, the son of Woody Allen and Mia Farrow, opens up about helping bring down Harvey Weinstein ("My family background made me understand abuse from an early age")"

The knives are out indeed.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 07, 2018 10:55 PM  

I'm watching the segment right now and having visions of endless rows of B17 bombers dropping massive payloads of truth.
Today was a momentous day. Lacking hyperbole and pomp, but more like a thief in the night.
Good job, Vox.

Blogger Unknown May 07, 2018 11:00 PM  

Only time I tried to watch a JBP video, he lost me early on. Don't care to remember which video that was, but it was a long while ago, definitely long before VD got involved. Something felt off and I just clicked away. Now I know why.

About the Infowars show today, VD did well, got his critical points across. I liked that Jones mentioned prayer afterwards and pulled up the Melania video where she said the "Our Father" prayer.

Now I'm not a big video watcher, hard enough to sit still for VD's entire segment, but I did manage to sit through Matt Bracken's segment as well because I've read him a few times, mostly on Gates of Vienna and I liked what he had to say there. Found it most interesting that Bracken mentioned VD a few times, showing us that he watched the VD segment too along with the rest of us. There is definite common ground there though Bracken has a different emphasis from VD. He's worth following as he is pretty direct and recognizes that the time for being nice is over.

Blogger Avalanche May 07, 2018 11:17 PM  

*Great* Dark Stream tonight. Morale has improved, but the beatings need to continue -- not quite there; but really close... Thank you Dark Lord!

Blogger Playto May 07, 2018 11:24 PM  

https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/8htlgs/peterson_exposed_and_destroyed_by_famous/

Shill thread is up. Posted by shill account.

Let's go!

Blogger YclepedBobAli May 07, 2018 11:31 PM  

Someone did a summary of Vox's 12 points he learned from read the 12 rules. Go and like it on Alex Jones' videos. Get it as the top comment. The Christian point is especially important.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 07, 2018 11:51 PM  

"The knives are out indeed."

Holy moly, Ronan? Those are some long, jagged, tetanus-infested knives indeed.

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