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Sunday, May 13, 2018

An eminent person

/pol/ is onto the Jordanetics fraud.

UPDATE: The 8chan thread already got nuked, so it has been reposted at 4chan, and has also been archived.
Jordan B. Peterson worked on the UN Secretary General’s High Level Panel on Sustainable Development, editing a document that was released in 2013 entitled 'A NEW GLOBAL PARTNERSHIP: ERADICATE POVERTY AND TRANSFORM ECONOMIES THROUGH SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT'. One of the panel members of this UN High Council was none other than skippy himself, John Podesta.
A NEW GLOBAL PARTNERSHIP:ERADICATE POVERTY AND TRANSFORM ECONOMIES THROUGH SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
The Report of the High-Level Panel of Eminent Persons on the Post-2015 Development Agenda

In July 2012, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announced the 27 members of a High-level Panel to advise on the global development framework beyond 2015, the target date for the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs).

The Panel was part of the Secretary-General’s post-2015 initiative mandated by the 2010 MDG Summit. UN Member States have called for open, inclusive consultations involving civil society, the private sector, academia and research institutions from all regions, in addition to the UN system, to advance the development framework beyond 2015.

There is a global ethic for a globalised world, based on our common humanity, the Rio principles and the shared ethos of all traditions: “do as you would be done by.”  
Look what it says on page 18 under the heading 'Global Impact by 2030':

International Migration:

The universal human rights and fundamental freedoms of migrants must be respected. These migrants make a positive economic contribution to their host countries, by building up their labour force.
From the report: The  deliberations  of  the  Panel  were  informed  by  the  broad  consultative  process  conducted  by  the  United  Nations,  as  directed  by  the  Secretary-General  in  our  terms  of reference. This includes national and global thematic consultations under the aegis of the United Nations Development Group (UNDG), regional consultations undertaken by  the  Regional  Commissions,  consultations  with  businesses  around  the  world  under  the guidance of the UN Global Compact, and the views of the scientific and academic community as conveyed through the Sustainable Development Solutions Network. We are grateful for the perspective these extensive consultations provided.

Some initially doubted that Peterson was actually involved with this UN agenda, since he is not listed among the 27 members of the panel. However, in an interview with The Dark Room Podcast in October 2016, Peterson openly declared that he was not merely involved with the UN HLP report, but actually wrote the underlying narrative for it.

I'm a media whore, you know.... I'm a professor at the University of Toronto so far. I'm a clinical psychologist, I have a clinical practice, I'm a business consultant, I do executive coaching, mostly for senior partners of big law firms. I run a testing business for the world's biggest early-stage technology incubator in California, called the Founder Institute. They've started 2,000 business in the past five years and I've screened all 30,000 of their entrants because I know how to predict entrepreneurial ability. I designed a program called Future Authoring that has helped more than 7,000 university students improve their grades by 25 percent and decrease their dropout by about the same amount. I worked on the UN Secretary-General's High Panel for Sustainability Report that was delivered, I believe, in 2013, and rewrote the underlying narrative to strip out most of the ideological claptrap.

His involvement with the UN was also confirmed in his bio at Moses Znaimer's conference, Ideacity:
Dr. Jordan Peterson has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, beekeeper, and railway line worker. He’s taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and businessmen, consulted for the UN Secretary General’s High Level Panel on Sustainable Development, helped his clinical clients manage depression, OCD, anxiety, and schizophrenia, and lectured extensively internationally. Dr. Peterson has published more than 100 scientific papers, and revolutionized the psychology of religion with his book Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. As a Harvard professor, he was nominated for the prestigious Levinson Teaching Prize. His YouTube channel’s videos have over 8,000,000 views, and his lectures on mythology were turned into a popular 13-part series on TVO. Dr. Peterson’s online self-help program, The Self Authoring Suite, has been featured in Oprah Magazine, CBC Radio and NPR, and has helped over 100,000 people resolve the problems of their past and radically improve their future.
I can't say I'm even a little bit surprised to learn that Peterson is NWO, given that one of his stated motives is to dissuade young men from opposing the neo-liberal world order. But Peterson's involvement in writing that particular document is interesting in light of how, in Maps of Meaning, he explicitly observes that immigrating foreigners have been considered a source of chaos dating back to the classical era. That would put the imperative for the Hero to "slay the Dragon of Chaos" into a new perspective, would it not? In other words, there is now very good reason to believe that Peterson actually knows the extent of the philosophical evil he is advocating; he is not some sort of naive, accidental Pied Piper.

It is clear that Peterson is not, and never has been, what he presents himself as being. Once I finished the first chapter of Maps of Meaning, a thought struck me - which I will later explicate, as it is relevant to demonstrating what an intellectual fraud he is and how wholly ignorant of the Western canon - and I predicted to a companion that there would be less than FIVE references to Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas, and Augustine in the entire 714-page book.

Then I did a search. There were two references to Aristotle. TWO! That was all. My companion was duly impressed, especially when I contrasted that lack of references with the vast number of references to Jung, Freud, and Plato. Now, here is the punchline: both references to Aristotle were contained in a single quotation by "the eminent theologist Reinhold Niebuhr". Peterson never once refers to Aristotle himself, or any of the great philosopher's many works.

I had been wondering how Peterson could produce some of the stupid and obviously false statements he had made about history, such as medieval people not being familiar with rhetoric, or the ancients not knowing how to think empirically. But apparently he really is that ignorant, because he's never actually read most of the classics, he has only read about them, third- or even fourth-hand.

Forget his being buddy-buddy with Ben Shapiro. That's bad enough, but this guy de-platformed Faith Goldy for her associations... and he's connected to John freaking Podesta!

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93 Comments:

Blogger Wanderer May 13, 2018 6:41 AM  

Exposing Peterson as a pro-open borders UN globalist who has a 1 degree separation from Mr. Pizzagate himself is the final nail in the coffin to his credibility. Anyone still following him after this is either ignorant or stupid.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len May 13, 2018 6:46 AM  

Does he make any references to Julian Jaynes? Psychological bicameralism seems like something that would be right up J. Pete's alley.

Blogger The Observer May 13, 2018 6:46 AM  

I had been wondering how Peterson could produce some of the stupid and obviously false statements he had made about history, such as medieval people not being familiar with rhetoric, or the ancients not knowing how to think empirically.

But everyone knows that prior to the Enlightenment, the entire world was filled with raciss sexiss homophobiss idiots who believed in a magic sky daddy and burned scientists at the stake! Who needs to learn about these ignorant bronze age goat herders when the Current Year is so much more enlightened?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 13, 2018 7:02 AM  

Did someone mention pedos, NWO, and the UN in a single article?

I'd say that I assume the Talmud is involved, but I don't assume that.

I already know it is.

Blogger LRN_News May 13, 2018 7:06 AM  

This completely confirms it for me.
Vox, you were right from day one.
I must admit, at first I was a bit shocked and gave Jordan Peterson the benefit of a doubt. But thank you for exposing Peterson for what he really is, a traitor.

Blogger Salt May 13, 2018 7:10 AM  

"I ... rewrote the underlying narrative to strip out most of the ideological claptrap."

JP is a professional (((psycho)))logist, not a professional editor, so why would a UN panel use such to polish an Agenda report?

Blogger Matiss Zarkevics May 13, 2018 7:10 AM  

Thread now deleted.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart May 13, 2018 7:14 AM  

Exposing Peterson as a pro-open borders UN globalist who has a 1 degree separation from Mr. Pizzagate himself is the final nail in the coffin to his credibility.

How could he ever hope to keep that a secret, whilst presenting himself as a sort of..... Alt-Hero!?

Mind: blown.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 13, 2018 7:15 AM  

Stone cold busted

Blogger Rocklea Marina May 13, 2018 7:25 AM  

Jordan Peterson is an Adviser.
https://en.unesco.org/system/files/GSP_Report_web_final.pdf

page 92.

NWO long range planing. I really, really detest these guys.

Blogger artensoll May 13, 2018 7:26 AM  

"How could he ever hope to keep that a secret, whilst presenting himself as a sort of..... Alt-Hero!?"

No wonder he's so terrified of being found out.

I'm not even a little bit surprised.

Blogger Teleros May 13, 2018 7:31 AM  

Link broken, here's an alternative:

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/171451022

In case it goes down the memory hole too:

Jordan B. Peterson worked on the UN Secretary General’s High Level Panel on Sustainable Development, editing a document that was released in 2013 entitled 'A NEW GLOBAL PARTNERSHIP: ERADICATE POVERTY AND TRANSFORM ECONOMIES THROUGH SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT'. One of the panel members of this UN High Council was none other than skippy himself, John Podesta.

UN's web page about the council (lists panel members):

https://www.un.org/sg/en/management/hlppost2015.shtml

The document they released in 2013:

http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/policy/untaskteam_undf/HLP%20P2015%20Report.pdf

Proof Peterson served on this council (UN website mysteriously does not list Peterson's name anywhere):

http://www.ideacity.ca/speaker/dr-jordan-peterson/

Peterson admitting he worked on this UN High Council and edited the above document (at timestamp 1m:09s):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz793O7sxXs [Embed] [Embed]

Anons, start digging through the UN document here:

http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/policy/untaskteam_undf/HLP%20P2015%20Report.pdf

Look what it says on page 18 under the heading 'Global Impact by 2030':

>International Migration:

>The universal human rights and fundamental freedoms of migrants must be respected. These migrants make a positive economic contribution to their host countries, by building up their labour force.

Blogger Uncle John's Band May 13, 2018 7:31 AM  

I guess I can drop the qualifiers when talking about his motivations.

He acts like he's in the pre-internet age, where no on can find this, or the way he recycles "thoughtful" answers. It's probably indicative of how he bullshits students in lecture.

Blogger Stilicho May 13, 2018 7:39 AM  

So, his "twelve rules" should be subtitled "A beginner's guide to spirit cooking"?

Blogger VD May 13, 2018 7:43 AM  

So, his "twelve rules" should be subtitled "A beginner's guide to spirit cooking"?

(nods)

Blogger Avalanche May 13, 2018 7:43 AM  

@3 Who needs to learn about these ignorant bronze age goat herders when the Current Year is so much more enlightened?

Especially when we can import our OWN version of them -- armed with modern weapons WE gave them!! (Of course, they're not only goat 'herders'....)

Blogger urbino May 13, 2018 7:49 AM  

He admitted to having "dark thoughts" early on in his rise to fame. He's never let that slip out again. Sometimes I wonder if he knows that he's helping to set up civil war and/or ethnic cleansing across the Western world. Maybe he believes that it will be some kind of cleansing act that will restore our lost myth. His philosophy seems to be effective at containing the growing resistance to immigration while allowing the invasion to continue.

Seems far-fetched but it's exactly what someone possessed by Satan would do.

OpenID tonsplace May 13, 2018 7:55 AM  

Funny how people have dug all this up, confriming Peterson is a sack of shit.

All I needed to know was he's from Canda and been to college

Blogger Peaceful Poster May 13, 2018 7:56 AM  

The only example of "executive coaching" that I've ever heard JP discuss is telling women that they should be more like men.

#feminism

Blogger Longtime Lurker May 13, 2018 7:57 AM  

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Mental illness is in the eye of the controller.

Clean your your room. And do remember to take your pills, lads.

Blogger Lazarus May 13, 2018 7:58 AM  

$oros

Blogger rumpole5 May 13, 2018 8:04 AM  

I've watched several presentations by Peterson. He has never presented himself as anything other than a classical liberal leaning sort of fellow, now disconcerted by the current left-wing chaotic excesses that he now believes go too far. Moreover, his point that sub 85 IQ folks basically have nothing to economically contribute in our Western society, and this presents issues that we have to consider, merits some thought.

I don't really understand why he draws so much of your attention because it has always been obvious that he is marching to the beat of a very different drummer.

Blogger Justin Bailey May 13, 2018 8:07 AM  

Clean your room, stand up straight, take your pills, and don’t sink the boats.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 13, 2018 8:08 AM  

Obvious to you, Rumpole. Not to millions of people like one of my brothers.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 13, 2018 8:11 AM  

"Funny how people have dug all this up, confriming Peterson is a sack of shit.

All I needed to know was he's from Canda and been to college"

@tonsplace
The simple fact he's faculty at the University of Toronto made me smell a rat.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd May 13, 2018 8:18 AM  

Once again, time proves V.D. correct. Glad I never watched J.P.
There's no coming back from being exposed for working with John Podesta.
How does V.D. see the evil in a man before it surfaces?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 13, 2018 8:27 AM  

The thread at Sailer's pretty much exposes the scam from his defenders over the Forward article.

Blogger Uncle John's Band May 13, 2018 8:27 AM  

In an earlier thread tublecane quoted Peterson's "open message" to Deborah Lipstadt with some funny comments. This bit is interesting:

"I have been teaching students at Harvard and the University of Toronto ["Credentials! I'm one of you!"] about the horrors of the holocaust [No capitalization. Demerit.] with extreme diligence ["I am scholar."] for thirty years [Boomer]. I have endeavoured ["Did I mention I'm Canadian?"] to convince them of the probability that they would be among the persecutors [White Original Sin]"

He has worked to convince his students of "the probability" of their inner genocidal (accepting his holocaustianity for the sake of discussion) nature for THIRTY YEARS! He is just taking his lecture shtick public.

His phrasing is typically equivocal as well. He doesn't say what probability he assigns our latent genocidal tendencies even though it's a leitmotif in his actual work. If you want to defend him, there's room to wave it away as some sort of poetic "beast within" archetype rather than a psy-op.

Blogger Uncle John's Band May 13, 2018 8:29 AM  

Sorry for all the "quotes." It is a Peterson thread after all. Consider it more parody than homage.

Blogger Peaceful Poster May 13, 2018 8:33 AM  

Perhaps that woman from Channel 4 deserves more credit than she received for trying to pin down exactly what weazle worded JP was saying.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 13, 2018 8:35 AM  

Wynn Lloyd,

Vox picked up on it because he knows the classics, and the foundations of Western Civilization, better than most of us. So if you want to know how profitable it is to know Aristotle, Aquinas, and the rest, here's a good lesson.

Blogger VD May 13, 2018 8:37 AM  

How does V.D. see the evil in a man before it surfaces?

Once you see enough of it, you start to recognize the patterns. The twisted definitions, the seemingly unnecessary bafflegab, the focus on self, the emptiness within. It's no different than an old beat cop immediately recognizing who is up to no good when he walks past a group of unremarkable young men or a nightclub alpha spotting the slut in a crowd of attractive girls wearing cocktail dresses and heels.

Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 13, 2018 8:52 AM  

Vox, you gotta break this on Alex Jones.

Blogger Lucas May 13, 2018 8:54 AM  

Wow. It's worse than I thought.

Blogger YclepedBobAli May 13, 2018 9:02 AM  

The report is a manifesto for global one world government and dissolution of national sovereignty under the guise of economic equalitarianism.

> "We came to the conclusion that the moment is right to merge the social, economic and environmental dimensions of sustainability guiding international development".

- So the UN regards social, economic and environmental 'progressiveness' as all equivalent and inter-changeable, and that these domains should be conflated and administered by massive centralised. Sustainable development is the new phrase for one world government.

> "Developing a single, sustainable development agenda is critical".

No it isn't. Different countries have different priorities within their sovereign jurisdictions. We aren't all the same.

> The need for a single agenda is glaring, as soon as one starts thinking practically about what needs to be done. Right now, development, sustainable development and
climate change are often seen as separate.

Because they are separate categories! 'Development' is not synonymous with 'climate change'.

> "It is also unrealistic to think we can help another one billion people to lift themselves out of poverty by growing their national economies without making structural changes in the world economy".

I wonder what these changes are? I wonder if they have anything to do with mass migration? What if individual nations don't want to be subject to systemic changes in the administration and structure of the world economy?

> Developed countries have a great responsibility to keep the promises they have made to help the less fortunate. The billions of dollars of aid that they give each year
are vital to many low-income countries

Vital to the corrupt dindus and bugmen chinks running these low-income countries.

> They can prompt their large multinational corporations to report on the social, environmental, and economic impact of their activities.

In other words, the big multi-nationals will spy like the big socials on the countries subjected to their colonialism, and

>(Developing Countries) They must make smart choices to turn cities into vibrant places full of opportunities, services and different lifestyles, where people want to work and live.

> Different lifestyles

They aren't going to stop until it's illegal anywhere in the world for you to stop you son deciding he's trannie - the Safe Schools agenda for all.

That's all page 18 of the report - the new nomenclature of the one world government. It's moved away from 'economic integration' to 'sustainable development'.

Blogger Brad Matthews May 13, 2018 9:07 AM  

I am impressed. I read the book and thought at least he is trying to jumpstart broken people. BUT, those that deny Christ died for their sins are the spirit of Antichrist and that really bothered me. He is a repackaged new age Jungian bullshitter masquerading as an angel of light pens.

Blogger YclepedBobAli May 13, 2018 9:15 AM  

The plans for implementation of the agenda are even more telling, see from page 33:

"Unifying Global Goals with National Plans for Development" i.e. forcing western nations to accept migration because that's how you will lift the incomes of developing nations - through an international labour force that provides home nations with wonderful remittances per page 18.

"In many circumstances international partners and agencies will be invited to assist in helping countries implement their plans and achieve their targets—on average 30 official development partners, many with more than one development agency, are operating in each developing country."

Right - so 30 different Clinton Foundations involved in various forms of criminality - child trafficking of course, money laundering, arms trafficking, minerals expropriation, forced asset forfeiture, slavery, and drugs.

That's what that means.

"Global Monitoring and Peer Review"

"...the Panel calls for every step to be taken to improve coordination and deliver on a single, integrated sustainable development agenda, including building on positive recent steps to improve collaboration between the UN’s agencies, funds and programmes, and with the international financial institutions".

So the UN wants more access to (((international capital))) and the UN agencies want in on the money management game, as that allows more scope for untaxeable, un-traceable graft.

No wonder John Podesta loves the UN.

"The Panel has three suggestions that could assist with a coordinated and cooperative international approach to monitoring and peer review."

1. a single Global Sustainable Development Outlook, jointly written every one or two years by a consortium of UN agencies and other international organizations". This would monitor trends/results, make recommendations to hedge risks.

Risks like free speech, national sovereignty, and western civilization. In other words, the Jews who run these organisations will set national policy agendas.

2. "The UN should periodically convene a global forum at a high political level to review progress and challenges ahead. An independent advisory committee should give advice and recommendations as background for this forum. It should include business, civil society and other voices"

So the Jews evaluate soverign countries' agendas and decide if it's good for the Jews.

3. "Third, reporting and peer-review at the regional level could complement global monitoring. It is often easier to review policies in-depth with friendly and constructive neighbours than with the whole world. The UN’s five regional commissions, with regional development banks, member governments and regional organizations, could form part of an improved coordinating mechanism in each
region of the world.

So regional satrapies getting first cut at gibs before passing up the chain.



Blogger YclepedBobAli May 13, 2018 9:23 AM  

Probably the most funny given Podesta's affiliations with Soros via media matters etc is the reports page 34 sub-title:

"Stakeholders Partnering by Theme"

Such groups are sometimes called ‘multi-stakeholder partnerships’. They bring together governments (local, city, national), experts, CSOs, businesses, philanthropists, universities and others, to work on a single theme. These
partnerships are powerful because each partner comes to the table with direct knowledge and strong evidence, based on thorough research. This enables them to
innovate, to advocate convincingly for good policies, and thus to secure funding. They have the skills to apply knowledge of what has worked before to new operations,
and to scale up promising ideas to reach large populations in many countries – ‘implementation and scaling up.’ There are already a number of such global multi-stakeholder partnerships delivering promising results, at scale: in health, nutrition, education, agriculture, water, energy, information and communications technology, financial services, cities and open government."

Right - so this segment of the 'millennial development goals' for post 2015 is the validation and legitimization of the George Soros governance model - where unaccountable elites interfere with impunity in nations like Hungary, and Iran, and everywhere else because they promote 'sustainable development', i.e. the subsuming of a distinct west into an indistinct one world nation.

" One of their most exciting features is that they can bring about a change in mind-sets, altering the thinking of millions of people worldwide. It may be a simple issue: the campaign to encourage hand-washing or to use insecticide-treated bed nets against malaria. It may be complex, like a campaign to recognize and address human contributions to climate change, or the need to change to sustainable consumption patterns. But always it involves reaching people in every country and in every
walk of life".

Right - so the Frankfurt school model of subversion of western institutions via 'stakeholder' individuals like George Soros to the UN's 'sustainable development' one world government agenda.

Blogger S. Misanthrope May 13, 2018 9:24 AM  

I knew Peterson had no knowledge of Aristotle, but I failed to make the connection that he then must have at best a shallow and more likely no knowledge of Aquinus, and that he therefore had no business lecturing about Christianity to anyone. The cardinal rule remains: always read primary sources.

Blogger VD May 13, 2018 9:26 AM  

"One of their most exciting features is that they can bring about a change in mind-sets, altering the thinking of millions of people worldwide."

Now, who might be charged with doing that? Not their pet psychologist who wrote the narrative, you don't don't think....

Blogger YclepedBobAli May 13, 2018 9:36 AM  

I apologise for multiple posts, but perhaps this will clarify Jordan Peterson's real agenda. I actually feel sick knowing he prepared the narrative of this evil document.

Here's how the UN is going to partner with big social to force through it's agenda

Page 35

"A New Data Revolution"

? "The revolution in information technology over the last decade provides an opportunity to strengthen data and statistics for accountability and decision-making
purposes. There have been innovative initiatives to use mobile technology and other advances to enable real-time monitoring of development results."

> Real-time monitoring of development results.

What do they mean by this?

> "data gathered will need to be disaggregated by gender, geography, income, disability, and other categories, to make sure that no group is being left behind."

No one will escape the all-seeing eye.

> This is not just about governments. International agencies, CSOs and the private sector should be involved. A true data revolution would draw on existing and new sources of data to fully integrate statistics into decision making".

> International agencies, CSOs and the private sector should be involved.

Facebook, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple, also will be spying for the UN.

"...the Panel recommends establishing a Global Partnership on Development Data that
brings together diverse but interested stakeholders – government statistical offices, international organisations, CSOs, foundations and the private sector."

In other words, an international order of integrated surveillance of all, by all, run by the UN to ensure it's goals for one world government are met.

I mean, this isn't even surreptitious. This is right out in the open. Peterson wrote this?

CONCLUDING REMARKS

"We envision a world where the principles of equity, sustainability, solidarity, respect for human rights and shared responsibilities in accordance with respective capabilities, has been brought to life by our common action".

> From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Peterson is a communist. The UN has an avowedly communist agenda that ignores the concepts of private property and national sovereignty.

" We have a choice to make: to muddle through as we have done, making progress on some fronts but suffering setbacks elsewhere. Or we can be bold and set our eyes on a higher target, where the end of many aspects of poverty is in sight in all countries and where we have transformed our economies and societies to blend social progress, equitable growth and environmental management."

Right. So the UN is now going to be run on deliberate category errors. These cunts are going to conflate 'social progress' with 'equitable growth' and 'environmental management'.

Yeah, given the ludicrous logic errors, category errors, ignoring that words have meaning, and categories have meaning, the incoherence, the messianism, the casual allusions to tyranny and assumptions of virtue which reverse meaning, this does have Peterson's footprint on it.

'Social Growth' as in the advance of degeneracy in all forms, is not to mean 'equitable growth and environmentalism'.

Yeah, adieu Mr Peterson.

Well I'm glad I've been able to parse this document. What an absolute pile of shit.

These people are so arrogant. Do they really think the world is going to blithely conform to this model? Do they really? Does Peterson?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 13, 2018 9:46 AM  

Yes they do think the world will conform. It's worked so far, and they also thought Hillary was going to win.

WRONG.

Blogger Arthur Tintagel May 13, 2018 9:47 AM  

Holy cow, the Peterson hole gets deeper

Blogger pyrrhus May 13, 2018 9:48 AM  

Bruce Charlton has concluded that JBP is the anti-Christ, for metaphysical reasons..After this document, I think it's clear.

Blogger Servant of the Chief May 13, 2018 9:51 AM  

Gotta say, I was convinced by your posts that Jordan is no friend of tradition and is in fact a liberal of the old (new) order, and because of that, Sargon's fondness of him in his ill-fated pursuit of reinvigorating liberalism for the 21st century with the retarded Liberalist shenanigans made a whole lot more sense. But I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because his mythologising of Religion and the pointing out of some very obvious archtypes was useful in convincing even staunch atheists that at the very least, the religious worldview had some intrinsic merit in a way they couldn't readily dismiss and as such I thought he was a useful weapon against new Atheism as a whole (Indeed I read it mentioned by someone that the Lord was keeping the faith from Jordan just long enough to get as many secularists on board for a damascene conversion event or something similar, which in my mind, made a kind of sense)

Clearly I didn't dissect his bafflegab enough to see the true incoherency with his worldview and how virulently opposed to Reactionaries it is (catch all term for both the Alt Right, Alt Lite, traditionalists, monarchists and the whole coalition of the real right these days), the link to the UN and Podesta is really surprising however, I can only hope the hopeful person who is predicting a damascene conversion is correct (I've heard similar talk about the same might be occuring to Molynuex over time, giving his increasing friendliness towards Christianity), and the scales fall from his eyes and he tears his legacy a new one, and drag as many atheists over as possible. We live in hope.

Blogger YclepedBobAli May 13, 2018 9:55 AM  

VD wrote:"One of their most exciting features is that they can bring about a change in mind-sets, altering the thinking of millions of people worldwide."

Now, who might be charged with doing that? Not their pet psychologist who wrote the narrative, you don't don't think....


Absolutely.

VD you're a genius.

Not only is this Peterson man friends with John Podesta. Peterson is serving the same people as John Podesta, in a much more important, central, and influential function. Peterson is the guy who has been tasked with bringing the west back into conformity with the NWO's one-world government agenda.

He is to influence millions of people and create a new channel for nationalism that dissipates the energy into the endless space of useless deracinated pacifist individualism.

I mean my god this document reads like a Tavistock document or trilateral commission document.

There is an open admission of a desire to manipulate public opinion using technology , obeisant stakeholders like Jordan Peterson, and compromised private actors (Facebook, Google etc) to conformity with the NWO agenda.

It's just unbelievable. I actually feel raped.

This is much, much worse then when Peterson censored my quoting of your arguments and supplementation thereof on his website.

This guy is a mercenary for the NWO, and he was as far back as 2015. That's well BEFORE the events at Toronto university that catapaulted him into the public consciousness. This was, is, and always has been his agenda.

I mean, could the Toronto events have been deliberately planned? Is Peterson's role as an agent for the NWO the reason he alone of academics who resisted the codes of conduct hasn't been summarily fired?





Blogger English Tom May 13, 2018 9:55 AM  

Seconded.

Blogger English Tom May 13, 2018 9:56 AM  

And (((Harvard))).

Blogger English Tom May 13, 2018 10:00 AM  

And speak your truth (except when it refers to the JQ).

Blogger YclepedBobAli May 13, 2018 10:09 AM  

Vox sorry again for dominating the thread. I'm blocked from doing this kind of analysis on other platforms.

Yeah - you picked out Jordan's central role.

I feel like this deserves it's own post. He's the guy. He's actually much more important then Podesta. Podesta is just an enforcer and a bag-man.

Peterson is the cultural equivalent of Bertolt Brecht. He's creating the NWO mythology that is a synthesis of all these opposing ideas.

That's why he's so seemingly incoherent - the existential relativist anti-post modernist.

The pro-Christian materialist occultist who doesn't believe in the supernatural.

The purported anti-Derrida textual positivist who de-constructs meaning according to it's utility for survival.

The acolyte of the cult of Holocaustianity who asks and answers 'the Jewish Question', who receives a dedication from a Jew for his sense of the Holocaust, and is called a Nazi by Deborah Lipstadt.

The pro self-responsibility boots-straps individualist who says patients aren't at fault if they don't take their pills.

The man who says you have to 'discover morality' based on exploration of your culture, history, art and natural law, who then says anyone who has a sense of pride in or affinity for their culture is a cowardly incompetent who can't navigate the world forthrightly.

- Yeah, one of JP's fans told me that in a video JP said that individuals have to 'discover morality' through exploration of their culture, but it's illegitimate to then feel any sense of cultural continuity with others.

The anti-identarian who says Jewish supremacy is justified by their cultural fidelity.

If I had time, I'm sure analysis of his work could find that his philosophy maps directly onto the UN Millennial Development Goals post 2015 agenda almost directly.

How ingenious.

Here he is, the personification of the UN's avowed goals for mass cultural transformation using all the new non-mainstream media channels they are now censoring and sanitising - except for Jordan Peterson who still gets found via the old organic search pathways of Youtube before the SPLC and JIDF started the mass memory holing of conservatives.

This definitely deserves it's own posting.

Anyway, that's enough from me. I hope everyone reading this material spreads the world about what Peterson is.

This is fucking sickening. My little brothers love this man, and he wants them dead or enslaved.

Blogger English Tom May 13, 2018 10:17 AM  

...could the Toronto event have been planned/staged?

Check out Joe Owens on you tube. He is a veteran British nationalist who has made videos about the modus operandi of infiltrators who try and lead us down a wrong path.

Blogger L' Aristokrato May 13, 2018 10:21 AM  

Hopefully 4channers will do their thing and spread this far and wide.
I always knew Peterson was a hypocrite, and a coward, but this information takes his scumbaggery to a new level. I used to think his ideology was evil; Turns out it's the man himself who is.
I'd like to see Molyneux address this as well, since he was/is on friendly terms with Peterson.

Blogger VD May 13, 2018 10:33 AM  

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because his mythologising of Religion and the pointing out of some very obvious archtypes was useful in convincing even staunch atheists that at the very least, the religious worldview had some intrinsic merit in a way they couldn't readily dismiss.

Never give anyone of that sort the benefit of the doubt. The argument is a nonsensical one. Who cares if staunch atheists believe the religious worldview has some intrinsic merit? Even Richard Dawkins believes as much.

Have you never learned that deceit always has to look at least somewhat convincing?

Blogger Uncle John's Band May 13, 2018 10:36 AM  

I've gone from being glad I didn't pay attention to this guy to wishing I had.

"This guy is a mercenary for the NWO, and he was as far back as 2015. That's well BEFORE the events at Toronto university that catapaulted him into the public consciousness. This was, is, and always has been his agenda."

He himself admits indoctrinating holocaustianity and guilt for 30 years. Had to earn admission to the club somewhere. His claim to have authored the report speaks to his importance in this scheme.

The incoherence is the same defense Postmodern "theorists" use - it's hard to attack what you can't define. But incoherence is an "identity" that can be circumscribed from the right distance. He is protected from having his lies and equivocations exposed in a hostile interview, so continually hammering them publicly builds a cumulative impression of general dishonesty beyond any one instance.

Blogger VD May 13, 2018 10:46 AM  

Settle down, YclepedBobAli. You're emoting all over the place. Everyone isn't damned, everyone isn't going to die, and don't post anything that can be misinterpreted and construed as threats.

What part of "Prince of This World" did you not understand? I understand you're probably very disappointed in Peterson, and that's fair, but you need to remember that we are given a spirit of faith and hope, not fear and despair.

Blogger FUBARwest May 13, 2018 10:49 AM  

They are going to have to nuke the internet at some point. Everytime they try something it's those pesky kids on the internet that ruin their plans. First GG, then Hillary, and now JBP.

Why was the thread on 8 chan nuked?

Blogger VD May 13, 2018 10:58 AM  

Why was the thread on 8 chan nuked?

No idea. The original YouTube link vanished too.

Blogger FUBARwest May 13, 2018 11:01 AM  

"I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt..."

Same, though for me it was also him talking about the gulags and him talking about the reasons for different levels of group productivity resulting from the inherent group differences.

Thank you Vox for taking the time expose all of this, but more importantly for bringing to my attention a blindspot I have about people who say things I agree with. Most of the things you have hit JBP on are things I let slide, i shouldn't have.

When I found out he valued Plato over Aristotle I should have been done with him then. If anyone reads The Republic and thinks that's a blueprint, not a nightmare is an enemy.

Those classics are getting a bump on my reading list.

Blogger YclepedBobAli May 13, 2018 11:01 AM  

VD wrote:Settle down, YclepedBobAli. You're emoting all over the place. Everyone isn't damned, everyone isn't going to die, and don't post anything that can be misinterpreted and construed as threats.

What part of "Prince of This World" did you not understand? I understand you're probably very disappointed in Peterson, and that's fair, but you need to remember that we are given a spirit of faith and hope, not fear and despair.


Guilty, understood. Apologies won't happen again. Understood.

Blogger Sam Spade May 13, 2018 11:13 AM  

This is definitive Check Mate.

I have shared it in a large spanish forum, because he is beginning to get popular even outside of the anglo sphere.

Blogger MendoScot May 13, 2018 11:15 AM  

I only ever watched him in the Newman interview for the lulz, but even then I noticed that there was something odd about his eyes.

Didn't care. Watching a feminazi crash and burn against a psychopath was worth the shekels, but at the end of the clip their mutual agreement struck a discordant note. At the time I put it down to luvvie hypocrisy, but now I see it as something substantially darker.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 13, 2018 11:48 AM  

urbino wrote:He admitted to having "dark thoughts" early on in his rise to fame. He's never let that slip out again. Sometimes I wonder if he knows that he's helping to set up civil war and/or ethnic cleansing across the Western world. Maybe he believes that it will be some kind of cleansing act that will restore our lost myth.
It is not impossible that he's seen the bloodbath coming. He is a smart guy. If so, he's picked who he thinks is going to win.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( your mom always did like me best ) May 13, 2018 11:52 AM  

well, THAT'S disturbing.

it fits in with that weird costume he was wearing though. Eyes Wide Shut it is.


Jordan
because I know how to predict entrepreneurial ability. I designed a program called Future Authoring that has helped more than 7,000 university students improve their grades by 25 percent and decrease their dropout by about the same amount.



he CLAIMS to be able to predict future performance.

therefore, he should also be able to predict the future performance of prospective purchasers of his "authoring program".

therefore, he should be able to tailor his sales pitch to those who will be significantly more successful than the norm whether they use his "program" or not.

cherry pick the data set properly and you can produce any result you want.

Blogger FUBARwest May 13, 2018 11:59 AM  

"It is not impossible that he's seen the bloodbath coming. He is a smart guy. If so, he's picked who he thinks is going to win."

That's not a very smart choice looking at it from a historical perspective. People who try and get in the way of trends tend to get killed.

Blogger Michael Maier May 13, 2018 12:32 PM  

I thank you as well, Vox. There was something interesting about the man. And I found myself sympathizing with him over that TV interview with that Brit bitch.

Wouldn't surprise me if that was done just for that reason, to establish bona fides.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 13, 2018 12:58 PM  

He's like Schwarzenegger's character in Raw Deal, who beats up Lemanski's guys to curry favor and established bona fides with his real target, Sam Wanamaker's mob boss character.

Blogger artensoll May 13, 2018 1:03 PM  

"The pro self-responsibility boots-straps individualist who says patients aren't at fault if they don't take their pills"

So, if we are not responsible for taking our own medicine, will it eventually be forced upon us?

Blogger The Kurgan May 13, 2018 1:08 PM  

Well.... as I expected... all the nay-sayers stating Vox was just a jealous fool and paranoid for stating JP was controlled opposition have immediately recanted their position, apologised for their error and admitted their tiny brains cNt connect the dots anywhere close to what Vox’s brain does.
Yup.
All lined up to do just that.

Blogger FUBARwest May 13, 2018 1:19 PM  

"Well.... as I expected... all the nay-sayers stating Vox was just a jealous fool and paranoid for stating JP was controlled opposition have immediately recanted their position, apologised for their error and admitted their tiny brains cNt connect the dots anywhere close to what Vox’s brain does.
Yup.
All lined up to do just that."

That is the sad part. All of JPB's defenders have gone silent.

Blogger VD May 13, 2018 1:20 PM  

That is the sad part. All of JPB's defenders have gone silent.

Just wait until tonight's Darkstream....

OpenID bgkoranburner May 13, 2018 2:40 PM  

That is the sad part. All of JPB's defenders have gone silent.
Just wait until tonight's Darkstream


If you like I could post another JPB civic nationalist small __ joke on Gab beforehand to distract them.

Blogger Alexandros May 13, 2018 3:06 PM  

Vox! I know this is somewhat off the topic, but you should interview Jay Dyer, fellow Christian, philosopher, conspiracy theorist etc. I believe the two of you have very much in common, including your distrust of Peterson. I’m sure he would find this new information on Peterson fascinating. Take care.

Blogger Bilroy May 13, 2018 3:35 PM  

One of the things that always puzzled me about JBP is his willingness to talk about the concerns of the right. He'd mention how women entering the workforce lowered the price of labour, he'd hint at the first 4 years of a child's life being the best, one that women shouldn't miss. But he'd gladly advise women on how to be more competitive in the workplace rather than question their priorities.

He'd talk about immigration and the chaos it entails - even suggest immigration today is too much too fast. But he'd never entertain the idea of even slowing immigration as a wise political option.

It always puzzled me, as he seemed to be so honest and genuine. Until now.

Blogger R Webfoot May 13, 2018 4:21 PM  

So..... Dr. Sydney Prout wrote a self-help book.

Gotcha.

Blogger Unknown May 13, 2018 5:25 PM  

Absolutely, a conversation with Jay Dyer would be amazing! Also if you could explain "transmodernism."

OpenID voidecho May 13, 2018 6:08 PM  

This was OG thread on 4chan (it was actually reposted to 8ch):
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/171429781
http://archive.is/qnle4

Video of Peterson talking about UN involvement in an interview is now taken down, here's a mirror:
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=8KUnK_Nz1ws

Blogger DonReynolds May 13, 2018 6:40 PM  

There is NO fundamental or universal human right to invade another country. Every country has a right (of self defense) to defend themselves from invasion and an absolute right to determine (all by themselves) who may or may not become a citizen or vote. No person (or human being) has a right to wander the globe in search of the best welfare deal, not even if they say they are refugees.

Blogger FUBARwest May 13, 2018 6:44 PM  

"Video of Peterson talking about UN involvement in an interview is now taken down, here's a mirror"

The question now is whether it is him and his team taking these things down or his handlers. Either way there arent any more excuses of innocence left.

Blogger Playto May 13, 2018 8:25 PM  

Damage control. I've seen similar things many times: they leave info in the open but start hiding it when people catch on. The fact that it all got shut down so fast means this isn't supposed to be known. My conclusion thus far: Peterson is an NWO architect and his main purpose is to help spread the religion is relativistic mythology but all share an important transcendental principle and it therefore has a purpose even though everything is matter position. He's basically laying the foundation for a universal pleb religion for the NWO. You need to help expose this.

OpenID voidecho May 13, 2018 9:13 PM  

Peterson has two degree of separation from George Soros. He served as a UN adviser for Jim Balsillie (ex-CEO of RIM/Blackberry), and Balsillie founded CIGI (Center for International Governance Innovation). CIGI partnered directly with New Economic Thinking (INET), a New York-based think tank founded by George Soros, also receiving $25 million dollars funding from them.

Peterson -> Balsillie -> Soros

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1526260019223.png

Blogger tublecane May 13, 2018 9:44 PM  

"the eminent theologian Reinhold Niehbur"

Did everyone else read the hilarious parody of James Comey's memoir (or whatever it was), where fake-Trump refers to Reinhold Niehbur as "Piehole Needledick?"

Anyway, I wouldn't judge an author by his failure to cite and past figure in particular, unless they happen to touch on subjects where ignorance of them would be fatal. Perhaps that's the case with Maps of Meaning. I don't know; I haven't read it.

A little learning is a dangerous thing. Even superior intellects, if under- or miseducated, can be unaware that the issues they're tackling haphazardly have been addressed by men as smart or smarter and definitely more learned than they.

You can tell how shallow is Peterson's learning just from what he says about the figures he does reference (endlessly). Firstly, because they're pretty much all fashionable modernist or proto-modernists like Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky. Those two are overwhelming academic favorites, especially among psychologists and the mentally unstable. It's not clear to me he has more than a competent layman's understanding of them.

Look at the way he talks about Freud, fountainhead of his chosen field. He sounds like a mass-market bookflap:

Freud supposedly revolutionized the way humans understand themselves by discovering the Unconscious. Right. Because everyone before Freud assumed we were perfectly conscious of everything we do. Plato, whom supposedly Peterson has also read, for instance, never wrote anything about the passions. It was all intellect. Yeah.

Better informed people know everything Freud wrote was either already known or false. Freud himself talked of how he was revealing to the public what other psychologists were too circumspect to discuss in the open. Namely, S-E-X.

Can Peterson possibly not know any of this? Why does he talk about it like an ad-man? Or I suppose a professor trying to get kids to sign up for his class.

Again, I'm just a dilettante, sporadically self-educated, but I can spot when men like Peterson are in over their heads intellectually. Though obviously he's smarter than me. Recently I was reading Simon Schama on Twitter, and boy! Is he a fraud.

Blogger tublecane May 13, 2018 9:59 PM  

@79- There's this thing some people call Universalism, the Intellectual faith of the global intellectual elite. Which derives culturally in part from Christianity. Without Christ, of course, and without much else making it worthwhile. But carrying many of the old traditions, because they couldn't erase them all. There'd be nothing left.

Anyway, this is for highly-indoctrinated people of a certain intelligence. It isn't for dopes who ran away from home at 16 and can't manage a clean room. Art, religion, philosophy, and so forth as understood at Harvard isn't for them.

Psychology has long been used as a palliative for such people, and as a safety to catch them and keep them from falling into one abyss or another. It's also been heavily used for political undesirables. See Paul Gottfried's discussion of it in his book Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt.

I could see someone like Peterson starting a pleb cult. But Peterson is still a bit heady for most people. The NWO will probably pick someone with more of a common touch.

Blogger Playto May 13, 2018 10:01 PM  

If Vox is interested, I know Dyer and can help set up a discussion

Blogger Iamblichus May 13, 2018 11:28 PM  


Initially I wondered why Vox so hard on Judeo Peterson he seemed to me just another garden variety cuckold. I didn't pick him as an actual globalist, Vox has skills respek.


Blogger Iamblichus May 13, 2018 11:35 PM  

Interesting if Molyneaux will do a "Truth about Judeo Peterson" video or will he stay neutral in order to save the large homosexual bucko following, which he would have overlap with Peterson

Blogger tz May 13, 2018 11:43 PM  

If you hate Chaos, any order is welcome, including a New World Order.

Blogger tz May 13, 2018 11:50 PM  

If you don't control your own mind, someone else will. Like any believer in the Castle Doctrine, I protect my house and mind similarly, and will discuss things on my front porch or lawn, but have a fairly high barrier to invite them inside.

People are too quick to trade a large chunk of their soul for wealth, popularity, or even simple convenience.

Blogger Jacob Orr May 14, 2018 12:17 AM  

https://youtu.be/8PB4h59nZP4

In this video jbp shows the viewers a gigantic painting in his computer room "from the former Soviet union". It is a painting of rebel youth about to be executed.

OpenID voidecho May 14, 2018 1:01 AM  

@88 Timestamp pls.

Blogger Unknown May 14, 2018 4:30 AM  

@JuliusEvola

What, like Jones' Jewish wife was exposed? Or his Jewish kids? He never talked about Jews and the NWO, after all.

YclepedBobAli - buddy, if you've been 'literally raped' by a 2015 UN Sustainability Report - and the language has stayed the same for years, mind you - you really aren't aware of the UN and what its done, have you?

OK, JBP is a Communist. So are the 5,000 other people who contributed to that report. He is a Communist who uses the Black Book of Communism, and does not associate himself with identity politics; he entreats it, if you want to highlight contradictions here.

Here's the thing: you keep harping on the NWO and how you're so 'raped' you can't stop to think for just one moment. A highly flawed, not-taken-seriously UN Report isn't the framework for this government. Why? Because as it turns out, it's expensive and the UN is known for taking advantage of people. Read the document again with clear eyes. UN documents are filled with empty promises. Plus, Google, Apple, and other companies already spy on you. No news there.

If Peterson is steering people away from nationalism and is undermining the West (another 4/chan post said he was a Zionist psyops man, I'll leave that up to you), he is not the only one. Look at Milo. Alex Jones. The latter says he keeps fighting the good fight, but let's be honest. He's no threat. But I digress.

Blogger Elias Pinero May 16, 2018 2:08 AM  

How the hell does the writer even believe the bullshit he just wrote?

Blogger Sam Sutherland May 16, 2018 2:16 AM  

I came here after this blog post was mentioned briefly in Sargon's Thinkery video 'Jordan Peterson is NOT Alt Right, You Idiots'. Sargon summarily dismisses the notion that JP is communist/globalist and features a video of JP bashing communism in an attempt to prove his point.

How is it that even though JP is so fearful of the mass executions that come with communism/collectivism, he can still be so heavily associated with the UN and other entities with an NWO agenda? Does he think that his secular humanist pseudo-Christianity can create a NWO without necessitating bloodshed?

Blogger Xellos May 19, 2018 2:20 PM  

8chan diggers are back

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