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Friday, June 22, 2018

Darkstream: Q and conspiracy



From the transcript:

I don't know if some of the stuff that Q is telling us is going to come to pass, but what I do know is that the world condition that he describes, this conspiracy theory of reality, is actually considerably more accurate, more realistic, and more in correspondence with genuine objective reality than the version that we are taught in school, or the version that we are presented every day by the mainstream media. I wrote a column back in 2002 and I'm going to read just a little bit of it here to you.

History speaks eloquently on the subject. In the 1,129 years of the great Byzantine empire, the average reign of an emperor was 12 years. This is a bit longer than the eight years we now allow our president, but is rather short considering that the Byzantine position ostensibly offered supreme power and lifetime tenure. But if it wasn't unheard of for a ruler of Constantinople to die peacefully in his bed, it was also not the norm. 

For example, in the 135 years following Maurice's peaceful succession of Tiberius Constantine, seven of the empire's 12 rulers saw their reigns end in assassination or execution. Of the five who were not slain outright, two were deposed, and one, Constantine IV, was only able to keep his throne by mutilating his two fraternal rivals.

Has anything changed today? On the surface, the answer is certainly yes. But is it truly reasonable to think that human nature has changed much over the 549 years that separate us from the last days of Byzantium? I submit not, especially considering that we are closer to the 11th Constantine, Dragatses, than was the first Justinian to Julius Caesar.

The Marxian theory of history has been thoroughly discredited. The Great Man theory cannot explain the dichotomy between the proven conspiracies of yore and their seeming absence today. The Accident theory is a vapid ontological argument. Only the much-belittled conspiracy theory of history, which stubbornly insists that events are not always as they appear on the surface, holds together in this light when examined in a historical and logical manner. 

So the point that we have to keep in mind is that there are conspiracies of the powerful Those who seek power over others always conspire in an attempt to achieve it, and it is very foolish of those of us who do not take part in those games to assume that that they are not happening simply because we don't have the ability to perceive them or to chronicle the specific actions that lead up to the consequences that we actually see. So that's why I pay attention to what Q is saying, because whether he is actually correct about the details is not really relevant; even the aspects that he is covering are
at least causing people to look in the right direction.

It's not an accident that globalism has come to pass in very much the same way that the crazy, end-of-the-world Christians were saying was going to take place back in the 70s and 80s. You know, it's a lot harder to laugh at people who talked about the Mark of the Beast and people not being permitted to buy or sell now, when you're seeing PayPal and Stripe and Visa and MasterCard refusing service, when you're seeing people talk about implanted chips that will allow people to engage in cashless transactions and that sort of thing. Whether you like it or not, whether you understand exactly what conspiracy connects to what public action or not, the fact of the matter is that is the way the world works. That is what all these various organizations are formed to do.

You know when George Soros goes and gives five million dollars to a group of black radicals, that's a conspiracy. The fact that we know it's called Black Lives Matter and we know the people who are involved - at least some of them - doesn't mean that it's not a conspiracy. It is a conspiracy, it is a
conspiracy to accomplish specific political change. You know, we might understand it better if Soros was teamed up with Donald Trump's younger brother and they were scheming to try to make the younger brother the Emperor of the United States, but that's a very crude and obvious form of conspiracy, it's just it's not the only form of it.  So, I would encourage you to pay attention to what Q is saying, and the people who are paying attention to what he's doing and who are discussing these things.

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54 Comments:

Blogger Ledford Ledford June 22, 2018 8:20 AM  

I know nothing about Q, etc., and can't comment. I will say that the globalists don't conspire like they used to.

"Time to talk about Guatemalans sneaking into the USA. The dead kid on the beach worked, so will the kid in a cage." I almost think you should give money to Soros, as poorly as his causes fare.

You know smart neoliberals like Chuck Schumer and Bill Clinton are furious right now. All they had to do was run out the clock. America becomes Greater California.

They could still win, we have to fight, but they have chosen to give battle at the time and place most favorable to us.

Blogger Howard Stone June 22, 2018 8:26 AM  

We can’t trust the media to report on everything, and much of what they report is misinfo, so it’s very possible that much of what Q has predicted has come to pass, only to be covered up and suppressed or even taken out of co text when reported on.

Blogger cavalier973 June 22, 2018 8:40 AM  

Q's value lies less in giving information than in inducing people to investigate, and share, information. When that happens, people gain ownership in the information, and are more likely to thoroughly vet and strongly defend what they've found. Naysayers who swagger into the forums with half-baked theories about Q being a LARP or psy-op quickly find they are outmatched by people whose positions have been fortified by in-depth research and vigorous debate. Q posts are cryptic for that reason.

Blogger ZhukovG June 22, 2018 8:53 AM  

The 'Conspiracy Theory of History' is most plausible since it comports well with Human Nature. People conspire all the time. Most of the time it is innocent.

"Hey, former classmate, I applied for a job at that company you work for, could you talk to someone on my behalf."

"Your sister's friend is 'Hot', could you ask your sister to talk me up."

"All right everyone, when he walks in, the lights go on and we all sing 'Happy Birthday'."

So, if normal folks conspire, it stands to reason that Freaks, Frauds and Stalin wannabees do it too.

Blogger Looking Glass June 22, 2018 8:53 AM  

The United States is the result of a conspiracy by a couple of guys in Boston.

Christianity is, functionally, a "conspiracy" of a few tradesmen in 1st Century Roman Palestine.

The EU is a conspiracy of European elites to form a super state.

"History" being the record of the actions of the living, would be most molded by the most proactive schemers & plotters. Whether they are honest in their recording of their actions is a very different issue.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 22, 2018 8:55 AM  

Conspiracy theorists IMO mainly are kooky gammas, the bearers of secrets more conspiratorial than your conspiracy theories.

They never ask questions, absolutely no sense of inquiry, just magic conspiracy theory and its frigging sad.
With that said the #3 post above hits it on the head Q for what its worth gets people to ask questions and inquire.

Blogger Rabbi B June 22, 2018 9:03 AM  

So the point that we have to keep in mind is that there are conspiracies of the powerful Those who seek power over others always conspire in an attempt to achieve it, and it is very foolish of those of us who do not take part in those games to assume that that they are not happening simply because we don't have the ability to perceive them or to chronicle the specific actions that lead up to the consequences that we actually see.

Indeed.

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.(cf. Ephesians 6)

Blogger Kang June 22, 2018 9:07 AM  

McCain’s Staff Director Urged IRS to Engage in “Financially Ruinous” Targeting

Yeah, conspiracy theorists are kooky

Blogger Anno Ruse June 22, 2018 9:12 AM  

> Conspiracy theorists IMO mainly are kooky gammas

Gammas are actually useful for this work. In their drive to prove their superiority and have a sense of identity, they'll dig through a million documents to find the one thing that connects person A to person B. GamerGate belonged to the gammas.

Blogger Howard Stone June 22, 2018 9:12 AM  

If it’s not on the news it didn’t happen.

Blogger tz June 22, 2018 9:24 AM  

Does anyone else worry that the US will tire of the subversion

The Jews are inciting KristjenNacht.

Blogger Othello June 22, 2018 9:26 AM  

Copy that.

Blogger Lazarus June 22, 2018 9:32 AM  

If it’s not on the news it didn’t happen.

Even if it IS on the news, it still did not happen. 2 weeks ago a missile was launched in the wee hours somewhere near Whidbey Island in Washington State. It was caught on a blogger's web cam.

A blow up of the image showed a missile at the top of a column of fire. It made it to fax news. The Navy at first said their were no missile launch facilities in the area. They conveniently neglected to mention their Nuclear sub base. As the images began to circulate on the internet, they came up with the idea of a helicopter in the area taking off with it's searchlight pointed straight down.

Complete and utter BS , but good enough for the normies.

Blogger Rabbi B June 22, 2018 9:39 AM  

@13 Lazarus

Complete and utter BS , but good enough for the normies.

Plausibility in lieu of the truth is sufficient.

Blogger Salt June 22, 2018 9:48 AM  

So the point that we have to keep in mind is that there are conspiracies of the powerful Those who seek power over others always conspire in an attempt to achieve it, and it is very foolish of those of us who do not take part in those games to assume that that they are not happening simply because we don't have the ability to perceive them or to chronicle the specific actions that lead up to the consequences that we actually see.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years."

He went on to explain:

"It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

-- David Rockefeller, Speaking at the June, 1991 Bilderberger meeting in Baden, Germany (a meeting also attended by then-Governor Bill Clinton and by Dan Quayle


Blogger Hammerli280 June 22, 2018 9:51 AM  

@4: I think you've got a point. A "Conspiracy" need not be secret. More often, the collusion is open - rather like the revolving door between the Democrat Party and the Propaganda Press.

Blogger Andre B June 22, 2018 10:03 AM  

A little OT, but I've noticed VD is currently writing "Corporate Cancer"...

Does anyone know if there are *economic incentives* given by financial institutions for companies that converge? For example, compliance with "diversity" quotas or public displays of convergence via publicity campaigns would give the company a lower cost for loans, and in that way the banks would be able to maintain continuous pressure on the market with World Government as end goal?

Blogger Joeplanet June 22, 2018 10:08 AM  

Big obvious clues and admissions like the one above by Rockefeller have been around for years. I detest the willful ignorance of those who so willingly let themselves be fooled and gaslit by a pathetically inept and lying press.

We have the best sheep. The best. Everyone says so.

Blogger Looking Glass June 22, 2018 10:14 AM  

Andre B wrote:A little OT, but I've noticed VD is currently writing "Corporate Cancer"...

Does anyone know if there are *economic incentives* given by financial institutions for companies that converge? For example, compliance with "diversity" quotas or public displays of convergence via publicity campaigns would give the company a lower cost for loans, and in that way the banks would be able to maintain continuous pressure on the market with World Government as end goal?


Party invites. Not joking. Most C-suite level execs know each other. So it's clubbish & clique-ish. Only need a few within the club to force others into it.

Blogger tuberman June 22, 2018 10:19 AM  

The term "Conspiracy" or Conspiracy Theories came into being as an attack on anyone who looked deeply into the "elite" or the way they run everything.

Some of it is idiocy, but it also covers for the ugly Satanism that is often very real. The idea would be that they can actually get away with monstrous behavior, if anyone bringing it to light would be accussed of insanity. The bonus is that they video their participants do evil crap and could use those videos to blackmail them, and keep them in line. Those people exposed would be isolated by MSM as single corrupt leaders caught with their fingers in a nasty cookie jar, and not part of a pattern. Just one of the ways these vicious, corrupt Globalist work.

They also spread fake conspiracies and even fund adherents to these fake conspiracies, plus multiple fake opposition like Peterson and Ben Shapiro, the Utah Republicans, various "church leaders" who run all sorts of human trafficking, and etc. Anyone who thinks these last are not a conspiracy are not paying attention. The MSM all using the exact same talking points every day after 4 AM (word for word usually) is a coincidence?

It does go very deep this state.

Blogger MickDundee June 22, 2018 10:21 AM  

Q could be a LARP or psy-op or a troll and still accomplish what is needed... meme magic and all that.

Q could also be a sacrificial pawn in the game of 4D chess, deliberately leaking misinformation as part of a bigger MAGA strategy.

Q might be someone close to Trump, able to relay Trump’s raw opinions which may or may not end up as official policy.

I have not seen Q cause any harm yet. So either LARP or official mouthpiece, Q seems to be a friend to MAGA.

Blogger Longtime Lurker June 22, 2018 10:22 AM  

We've come a long way from the Oracle at Delphi.

Blogger Rabbi B June 22, 2018 10:23 AM  

Big obvious clues and admissions like the one above by Rockefeller have been around for years.

Their time will come. Pride comes before a fall, and great will be their fall.

“And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore:

Merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men.

The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you, and you shall find them no more at all.

The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls!

For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.’ Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’

(cf. Revelation 18)

Blogger tuberman June 22, 2018 10:29 AM  

19. Looking Glass

I know some people in middle level management in top parasite financial and banking operations, not to mention the Silicon Barons, they are sewage pools at the top often as corrupt as DC and Hollywood. The top people in all these places are all interwoven, and for the last two decades they have been importing invaders on lower levels to back their treason.

Blogger tuberman June 22, 2018 10:35 AM  

"Q could also be a sacrificial pawn in the game of 4D chess, deliberately leaking misinformation as part of a bigger MAGA strategy."

On at least two occasion Q has created false leads, but each time, something very important was happening else where that was being hidden, and those tings came down hard and disrupted Globalists.

"Disinformation is necessary" was warned before hand as a foreshadowing, so one must look to the results.

Blogger Jamie-R June 22, 2018 10:38 AM  

You used to talk this stuff 10 years ago & I'd mockingly think, too much going into orchestration for it to be real. Then Trump came along & then Q, and then I started noticing lots of stuff on Twitter of all places. It's amazing that there are people out there that think like that, but I've come across them in the past, Arabs have a shit version of this mentality, why they always try to copy the Jews, but now I understand why so many go to Hollywood & the music industry, seemingly clean cut good folks, & end up drugged out and suicided. No one understands what they're like until you experience it then you're like "okay these people are really f**ked up in an outrageous way, every single f**king one of em, and oi, get out me country"

Blogger pyrrhus June 22, 2018 11:17 AM  

A conspiracy is nothing but two or more individuals working to a common end, whether secretly or openly. The alternative would be individual action that coincides in seeking such a goal. Only the autistic believe in the second possibility....

Blogger CarpeOro June 22, 2018 11:22 AM  

The 'Conspiracy Theory of History' is totally crazy because, you know, Brutus was acting in the moment when he stabbed Caesar. The others who stabbed him? It was just monkey-see, monkey-do. No prior planning at all.

Blogger riffer73 June 22, 2018 11:22 AM  

Lol! "The conspiracy theory of reality". Another tool I can use to drive Leftists crazy. And it makes sense. Thanks VOX. I'll use this on the weekend.

Blogger Nick S June 22, 2018 11:31 AM  

The Q-niverse is a dynamic tapestry of fluid circumstances in which very knowledgeable people can sometimes be mistaken. Active attempts to thwart and/or otherwise delegitimize Q's predictions and efforts are constantly being pursued.

Regardless of who Q actually is, the whole phenomenon is having a profound effect on the political landscape and I think that is a good thing. Conspiracies are provably common occurrences. Equally provable is that multiple conspiracies sometimes overlap and create a confluence of circumstances that defy the odds of coincidence.

Although I remain dubious, I think it unwise and unreasonable to dismiss Q out-of-hand for appearances sake.

Blogger NoneOfTheAbove June 22, 2018 11:32 AM  

The r/K guy links to an approving article about Q by of all a people a Hollywood writer.

"There’s a lot more to the Q anon story, but you’d never believe me if I told you now."

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/the-story-of-q/

Blogger Mark Stoval June 22, 2018 11:36 AM  

I think this post and this thread may be one of the more important at this site in a long time.

Western Civilization is being destroyed by various conspiracies and everyone needs to realize that fact. Even if we don't know exactly what is going on, we need to know that there are groups doing all sorts of things.

Just the false flag opps alone have done much damage. The hits sorta made to look like suicides have also done damage to the truth and civilization. I could go on and on but most here could make their own list easily.


Great post.

Blogger Looking Glass June 22, 2018 11:37 AM  

@26 Jamie-R

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

You can watch the narrative shift in real-time now, while clearly directed from "above".


@24 tuberman

Yup. There's a reason failed CEOs get Golden Parachutes, and then get re-hired somewhere else. It's a hard job, as it stands, with very few actually capable of doing it, but the clubbishness makes it pretty unbearable for a lot of people to really get involved.

@20

I've found explaining the mechanics via the Birther issue to work pretty well. The entire issue with Obama's birth certificate makes perfect sense when you accept that he was born in Hawaii & they've been lying about it the entire time. By lying about it, since no one normally lies about something trivial like that without hiding something, it draws so many "crazies" (or paid actors) into the mix that any logical analysis is lost. Important issues get missed.

It's the exact same mechanics, though run in positional reversal, as a False Flag. Act like you're lying when you're telling the truth, then keep the cover-up going, leverage group identity issues so your own side looks away and then use that to hide a lot of other issues. No one can ask about his college records (or if he really was helping the CIA in Pakistan) without getting lumped in with the nutters.

Somewhat hilariously, Trump leverages the same dynamic to drive the MSM insane, though in that context the MSM are the "nutters".

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 22, 2018 12:09 PM  

Christ was conspired against before he was murdered.

Blogger Jack Amok June 22, 2018 12:38 PM  

2 weeks ago a missile was launched in the wee hours somewhere near Whidbey Island in Washington State. It was caught on a blogger's web cam.

Yeah, I've been wondering what was up with that. Were they launching at something, or was it just another day at the office with Cmdr Diversity and Lt. Grlll-Power in charge?

But I think that helps illustrate an important point. The world doesn't have to be always one thing or the other. Some odd events are just incompetent people trying to cover up their mistakes (which can be a conspiracy in itself) and others are evil people with an actual plan (which may or may not be an incompetent plan) executing it. Also, there can be multiple conspiracies competing against - or maybe just unknowingly interacting with - each other, producing unforeseen results.

Blogger Looking Glass June 22, 2018 1:00 PM  

@35 Jack Amok

Most of the school shooters aren't MK Ultra victims. They just setup an environment that someone, eventually, naturally just goes on a killing spree. The Conspiracy setup the System, but the actual actions can be completely independent. (And, occasionally, when they need it, they can run an operation to produce an event.)

There's a Scott Adams point about "System, not Goals" in there somewhere. That's what the few highly intelligent but horribly evil Elites went about setting up. They'll let human nature do most of the work for them.

Blogger English Tom June 22, 2018 1:03 PM  

@Carpeoro

No prior planning at all.

I've heard Italian knives have a mind of their own!

Blogger English Tom June 22, 2018 1:08 PM  

@ Looking Glass

Re: school shooters. Don't forget the influence of psychoactive drugs on the minds of the shooters. How all these kids got fu**ed up on drugs is a conspiracy all its own.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 22, 2018 1:27 PM  

2 weeks ago a missile was launched in the wee hours somewhere near Whidbey Island in Washington State. It was caught on a blogger's web cam.

This, by the way, is a case where q-anon - and even more so the many anons at 8-chan - more or less figured out what actually happened. The launch more-or-less coincided with the revelations from (((Ministry of Truth))) that the "Chinese" had hacked all sorts of secret Navy comms, software, etc. It might have been the Chinese or (more likely) it was the deep-state attempting a 'hail Mary pass' to derail the NK summit, which was nearly derailed a few weeks before. It was probably a sub-launched nuke that was successfully shot down near Alaska. One of Q's strongest points of credibility had to do with the whole NK business (NK was a deep-state operation).

Blogger Jack Amok June 22, 2018 1:41 PM  

There's a Scott Adams point about "System, not Goals" in there somewhere. That's what the few highly intelligent but horribly evil Elites went about setting up. They'll let human nature do most of the work for them.

Yes, systems, good way to think of it. Systems, a little propaganda, and a few real conspirators in place with a plan, waiting to exploit the inevitable.

Along the same lines as not every crisis actor is reading from a script. A lot of them are doing improv.

We need to be more active identifying and disrupting these systems.


Blogger MickDundee June 22, 2018 2:59 PM  

“There's a Scott Adams point about "System, not Goals" in there somewhere. That's what the few highly intelligent but horribly evil Elites went about setting up. They'll let human nature do most of the work for them.”

Great point.

But are (((their))) systems fragile or anti-fragile?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 22, 2018 3:27 PM  

I've heard that the use of the "conspiracy theory" label as a crimestop trigger originates with deep state/ intelligence community efforts to marginalize any dissent from the Warren Commission findings in the mid-late 60s. But if you look at the Google Ngram of the term's usage, it was already on a pretty steep upslope in usage by then, with no apparent inflection point, so that seems unlikely:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conspiracy+theory&year_start=1900&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cconspiracy%20theory%3B%2Cc0

Though setting the smoothing to zero does give something of a late 60s spike, it's clearly superimposed on a longer term pattern.

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conspiracy+theory&year_start=1900&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=0&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cconspiracy%20theory%3B%2Cc0

Looks like it starts in the 1950s. Was it used against McCarthy and other anti-Communists?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 22, 2018 3:45 PM  

The Marxian theory of history has been thoroughly discredited. The Great Man theory cannot explain the dichotomy between the proven conspiracies of yore and their seeming absence today. The Accident theory is a vapid ontological argument. Only the much-belittled conspiracy theory of history, which stubbornly insists that events are not always as they appear on the surface, holds together in this light when examined in a historical and logical manner.

Though mass action and other forms of self-organizing behavior, often based in group identity/ innate behavioral tendencies, do play a role as well. But these factors are often complementary to (and difficult to distinguish cleanly from) conscious conspiracies.

And while the Marxian theory of history may be discredited, population-level factors do play a role. How much of 20th century history was influenced by the explosive population growth of the Ostjuden in the 19th century?

Blogger SirHamster June 22, 2018 3:49 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Most of the school shooters aren't MK Ultra victims. They just setup an environment that someone, eventually, naturally just goes on a killing spree. The Conspiracy setup the System, but the actual actions can be completely independent. (And, occasionally, when they need it, they can run an operation to produce an event.)

Anon conservative has posted on plausible technologies and methods that can be combined to sleep deprive and hypnotize subsceptible people.


Those "crazies" who go postal may indeed be crazy ... on purpose.

Blogger Chesapean June 22, 2018 3:53 PM  

RE: "Only the much-belittled conspiracy theory of history, which stubbornly insists that events are not always as they appear on the surface, holds together in this light when examined in a historical and logical manner."

New York education reformer John Taylor Gatto makes substantially the same point in much of his work, especially his 5-hour video interview "The Ultimate History Lesson," aka, "Underground History Lesson."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj8f7ycnUtU

If you're looking for red pill material normies might find more approachable than Q, Gatto is an excellent choice.

I think, too, there's a practical connection between the material reality of government-as-conspiracy (Babylon) and Christianity's liberating truths.

In its worst form, government-as-conspiracy would be Satanic, but even Satanism is spiritual. Christianity is the opposite and the greater in every respect, except for also being spiritual: Same laws of nature; different principalities.

Think lilies of the field in this context. They demonstrate the ultimate (or actual) condition of man.

Blogger Manuel June 22, 2018 4:19 PM  

I've been reading R. Syme's "The Roman Revolution" and I think this quote is relevant:
"It is an entertaining pursuit to speculate upon the subtleties of legal theory... it is more instructive to discover, in any time and under any system of government, the identity of the agents and ministers of power. That task has all too often been ignored or evaded."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 22, 2018 4:40 PM  

Manuel wrote:y... it is more instructive to discover, in any time and under any system of government, the identity of the agents and ministers of power.
Who, whom.

Blogger Looking Glass June 22, 2018 5:04 PM  

SirHamster wrote:Looking Glass wrote:Most of the school shooters aren't MK Ultra victims. They just setup an environment that someone, eventually, naturally just goes on a killing spree. The Conspiracy setup the System, but the actual actions can be completely independent. (And, occasionally, when they need it, they can run an operation to produce an event.)

Anon conservative has posted on plausible technologies and methods that can be combined to sleep deprive and hypnotize subsceptible people.

Those "crazies" who go postal may indeed be crazy ... on purpose.


Between 1-2% of the US Population can be made into an MK Ultra mark. They need to previously have "issues", but not be full on psychotic. In that in-between space around the -3 SD range for mental stability. I figured that out from some other work I was up to, though without some good information on implementation, I can only guess at how to do it.

It actually works more like Inception than A Clockwork Orange. Suicide operates the same way. The idea is practically drilling a hole in your brain. In the case of Suicide, you're trying kill yourself... to stop thinking about killing yourself. In the case of Project Orion victims, they're carrying out whatever the "plan" is. (Which would need to be really vague.)

They also get a minder that watches them. Seems to be normally female. My theory on Sandy Hook is that Lanza "went early" because he killed his mother first, then carried out the plan. It would explain why they always go back to it & why they highly encouraged the nutters to make a complete hash of the event. That's normally the sign they want to misdirect everything.

Blogger SidVic June 22, 2018 5:27 PM  

Vox is really mastering this video format. Best yet! I think this comic book play is brilliant. Like Fox news targeting half the population that what underserved.

Within 7 lb of hitting 2X body weight? If you really committed shoulda cut off dick:)

Blogger Manuel June 22, 2018 5:29 PM  

An even better quote from Syme's "The Roman Revolution":
"There is always an oligarchy somewhere, open or concealed." (page 346)

Blogger AnvilTiger June 22, 2018 10:27 PM  

Lazarus wrote:If it’s not on the news it didn’t happen.

Even if it IS on the news, it still did not happen. 2 weeks ago a missile was launched in the wee hours somewhere near Whidbey Island in Washington State. It was caught on a blogger's web cam.

A blow up of the image showed a missile at the top of a column of fire. It made it to fax news. The Navy at first said their were no missile launch facilities in the area. They conveniently neglected to mention their Nuclear sub base. As the images began to circulate on the internet, they came up with the idea of a helicopter in the area taking off with it's searchlight pointed straight down.

Complete and utter BS , but good enough for the normies.


It may have been a missile launch of some kind, but not from the submarine base, for the following reasons.

1. The sub base is Naval Base Kitsap, located just a bit north of west of Seattle. The Naval Air Station Whidbey Island is almost straight north of Seattle. The distance between the two is probably about 40 miles or so as the crow flies. A missile launch seen via a webcam near Whidbey island would be from the naval air station, not the sub base.

2. US navy submarine launched missiles are launched underwater. The outer hatch is opened but the launch tube is still covered by a cap. A gas generator has previously pressurized some high pressure tanks, at launch the tanks empty into the tube. The cap is blown off the tube, and the missile is launched like a dart from a blow gun. It is surrounded by a gas bubble as it moves out of the water and then maybe 20 feet above the surface the missile engines ignite the solid fuel. Launching on the surface - the gas would rush past and around the missile (not being held back by water pressure), and the missile might even ignite in the tube. That would be bad.

3. Submarine missile launches are secret, not done in Hood canal right in front of everyone. Plus no sub captain in his right mind would submerge in the freaking canal.

Ergo, yes it might have been a missile launch of some kind, but it would have been from the air station, not the sub base.

Blogger Unknown June 22, 2018 11:42 PM  

Mr.MantraMan said:

"Conspiracy theorists.....

.... never ask questions, absolutely no sense of inquiry, just magic conspiracy theory and its frigging sad."
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NO, what'ssad is you are deliberately reversing what those who believe in conspiracies actually do, which is question the heck out of everything!

Warrne Commission posits a Magic Bullet pierces two d bodies, breakinh hard bones , as it changed direction flight, then emerged virtually intact and unscathed, shedding less mass than the remnants of lead in Connoly's body. YOU accept that bullsh*t theory because "Earl Warren wouldn't lie", while conspiracy theorists question that conclusion deeply becuase their eyes and logic tell them someone is lying!!

Blogger Jack Amok June 23, 2018 12:13 AM  

Ergo, yes it might have been a missile launch of some kind, but it would have been from the air station, not the sub base.

The image was taken from Skunk Bay, which is just on the other side of Foulweather Bluff from the entrance to Hood Canal. The camera was pointed north, and there's just no deep water in that direction. It almost certainly wasn't a sub, or any waterborne vessel that launched it, they would have been in Admiralty Inlet if they did. It came from NAS Whidbey for sure. Well, if it was deliberate anyway. Cmdr Diversity could have had a negligent discharge anywhere.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 23, 2018 2:34 AM  

Hood Canal in NOT a canal. It is a fjord, averaging over 150 feet of depth. The US Navy has a Trident submarine base on Hood Canal at Bangor.

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