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Monday, June 18, 2018

Facebook stalking

If this freelance reporter working with Rolling Stone and NPR stalks you on social media, just ignore her request for other people's contact information, let us know that she contacted you and tell us on what form of social media you were contacted. We want to know exactly how many people are being stalked and where they are being stalked.

Remember, no means no!


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Blogger Matthew June 18, 2018 9:52 PM  

She friend requested me on FB today. I assumed it was yet another woman in need of my counseling.

Blogger Patrikbc June 18, 2018 10:00 PM  

She’s just trying to use Markku to get to Farmer Tom.

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii June 18, 2018 10:03 PM  

I can't wait for Jack Broccoli's response ...

Blogger VFM #7634 June 18, 2018 10:08 PM  

DTTTM > media = crazy stalker... QED.

Blogger Sun Xhu June 18, 2018 10:10 PM  

Wow. Just looked up her "work".

She's a piece of work, alright. Complete psycho lefty, with a Trudeau obsession.

Blogger Joseph Maroney June 18, 2018 10:10 PM  

Though nothing may come of it, she is afoul of fb's anti-spam policy.

"Spam involves contacting people with unwanted content or requests."

Blogger Markku June 18, 2018 10:16 PM  

I will not participate in an interview, nor provide any comments whatsoever. My friends have informed me that they feel that their privacy has been violated by Facebook stalking, and I hope we will be able to put an end to this quickly.

Blogger Anno Ruse June 18, 2018 10:26 PM  

Coming soon, "How The Alt-Right Scorned Me" by Amanda Robb

Blogger Werekoala1066 June 18, 2018 10:26 PM  

Yup she's coming for youuuuu... good try tho.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 18, 2018 10:28 PM  

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Blogger Nate June 18, 2018 10:52 PM  

its moments like this... when I am so happy to have attained the Position of Fuck You.

You cannot hurt me financially. I need nothing from you. There is literally nothing anyone in the media can do to me.

But that said... even I can't take this bait. Because while they can't hurt me... they can use what I say to hurt my friends.

Blogger Lazarus June 18, 2018 11:09 PM  

Amanda Robb is a New York-based journalist currently at work on a Nation Institute investigative grant.


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Blogger Dire Badger June 18, 2018 11:15 PM  

1-800-F&CK-OFF

Blogger Randomatos June 18, 2018 11:22 PM  

Does she really think no-one here can google her history, her sponsors, her agenda, or guess what she wants to do to Markuu and his company/family/life? How stupid are the people she surrounds herself with if she expects this to work?

Blogger Patrikbc June 18, 2018 11:33 PM  

It’s a great thing ain’t it?

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim June 18, 2018 11:33 PM  

It would be kinda funny to lead her down some hellacious rabbit hole that ends in her making the 4 chan hall of shame next to Shia Ledoof.

Blogger Clint June 18, 2018 11:37 PM  

No, the best option is to just say nothing. This is not a time for trolling.

Blogger Dire Badger June 18, 2018 11:42 PM  

"This is not a time for trolling."

It is always a time for trolling.

Blogger Clint June 18, 2018 11:44 PM  

No, it is not. If you cannot see that, then you need to reassess. Note that Vox did not ask folks to troll. He said to ignore. There is a reason.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 18, 2018 11:45 PM  

"But that said... even I can't take this bait. Because while they can't hurt me... they can use what I say to hurt my friends."

Another reason to keep gammas out of one's org, considering her looking fairly attractive, at least in that profile pic.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 18, 2018 11:54 PM  

Don't stick your dick in crazy, don't touch this nuclear sized pile of poop, Wheels and a skirt you can't afford it, how many ways does this need to be said?

Trolling will not end well for you. Trust The Dread Ilk.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) June 18, 2018 11:57 PM  

It is always a time for trolling.

Shut up moron

Blogger Welsh Woodsman June 18, 2018 11:59 PM  

"It is always a time for trolling."

If you're not independently rich or retired, you probably have too much time time on your hands... if its spent trolling.
Take the same energy and use it to make yourself financially anti-fragile instead.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 12:02 AM  

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Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 12:05 AM  

Josh (the sexiest thing here) wrote:It is always a time for trolling.

Shut up moron


What's my name?

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 19, 2018 12:10 AM  

I'm shocked that any of you are still on Facebook.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 12:13 AM  

I bailed FB a while back, but one of my friends was with me at a family gathering, and was talking about facebook to my gen z niece.

She told me later that she was laughing about it because "Only grandparents use Facebook,"

Blogger Unknown June 19, 2018 12:13 AM  

Yep, she can't stalk you there if you don't have an account in the first place.

I closed mine last March, after the BS finally outweighed the utility of keeping in contact with old shipmates, and I have not looked back.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 19, 2018 12:14 AM  

@25


>>> It is always a time for trolling.

>> Shut up moron


> What's my name?

What's Vox Day's name?

Blogger Roger G2 June 19, 2018 12:15 AM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly June 19, 2018 12:16 AM  

Dire Badger, I used to think you were competent.

Now I have to reassess that evaluation.

This is NOT 4chan, let alone /b, you moron.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook June 19, 2018 12:52 AM  

creeps

Blogger Thad tuiol June 19, 2018 12:53 AM  

Fuck Amanda Robb, Fuck FB, and Fuck Dire Badger.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus June 19, 2018 1:00 AM  

A dear friend in law used to appear on US tv as a grand 'tech' host and he convinced me to accept entry with FB just prior to its release into the wild by invitation. For a few years I was my local king of FB what with my global travels and the cool photos/vids I captured and narrated. Then my professional involvement in cloud industry'transmogrified' into Big Data and I gradually withdrew from participation because what I learned what can be learned effed with me. If you are on FB you are making a huge mistake even if all the information is voluntarily supplied and public, because, FB and affiliates are literally jacking that information to procure information about you and any relations for exploitation against your interests. GTF off FB if you know what's good for you.

Blogger allyn71 June 19, 2018 1:01 AM  

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Blogger Markku June 19, 2018 1:07 AM  

According to the new GDPR law in EU that went into effect last month, the fine for privacy violations to a company with Facebook's revenue is roughly $1.6 billion, so I trust that they will deal with the issue promptly if it persists.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 19, 2018 1:28 AM  

Most people have moments of weakness.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 1:52 AM  

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Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 2:06 AM  

To be fair, this whole conversation is OT and stupid. I made an off the cuff remark that it's always a good time for trolling, and you reacted like I tried to claim Oprah Winfrey is a genius or that no-fault divorce is the wave of the future.

Animal Mother made a valid point I need to consider. You, Thad (whoever the hell he is), and buttpirate decided to turn the board into 4chan. Congrats. Call me when you have something intelligent to say, and please stop derailing the thread.

Blogger Wanderer June 19, 2018 2:21 AM  

@38

Apparently you learned nothing from Gamergate either. Anita Sarkeesian never would've had a career if retards from /v and /pol left her alone and didn't troll her in the first place. Likewise with Zoe Quinn. People should have instead focused on boycotts and building alt platforms once SJWs ruined something. The only thing accomplished with trolling is getting one of these journalist assholes to write yet another article about the rise of HATE, how we need to censor the internet, more speech laws, etc.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 2:36 AM  

"The only thing accomplished with trolling is getting one of these journalist assholes to write yet another article about the rise of HATE, how we need to censor the internet, more speech laws, etc."

You are absolutely right. That is EXACTLY what is happening.

Blogger Shimshon June 19, 2018 2:37 AM  

"It is always a time for trolling."

I agree. My brother got a call from a Nigerian-style scammer a couple months back, while his wife and kids were in the car. He decided to answer, figuring he'd save lives, and had the guy going for a half-hour or more before he got wise. The retelling was accompanied by non-stop laughter. It sounds like it was epic level trolling.

A bunch of people could buy burner phones all over the world, leading Xs. Robb on a wild goose chase of legendary proportions, occupying her time tracking down the elusive Markku MacGuffin. How fun would that be?

Blogger Harambe June 19, 2018 3:17 AM  

Can't you get Milo to act as your spokesman?

Blogger Dirk Manly June 19, 2018 3:27 AM  

@43

That would be acknowledging her existance.

It's something best not even considered.

Unperson her, before she unpersons us.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 19, 2018 3:31 AM  

I'm guessing there is already a hit piece mostly written.

Blogger VD June 19, 2018 4:01 AM  

To be fair, this whole conversation is OT and stupid. I made an off the cuff remark that it's always a good time for trolling, and you reacted like I tried to claim Oprah Winfrey is a genius or that no-fault divorce is the wave of the future. Animal Mother made a valid point I need to consider. You, Thad (whoever the hell he is), and buttpirate decided to turn the board into 4chan. Congrats. Call me when you have something intelligent to say, and please stop derailing the thread.

No, Dire Badger, they were correct to tell you off. Because some moron always thinks that he is clever enough to play the media, despite the fact that he has zero experience with them and the average reporter has successfully played SEVERAL THOUSAND people just like him, just because 4chan was able to mess with a psychologically-damaged low-IQ actor.

And it was your need to say something snappy and off-the-cuff is what led to what isn't even a derailment, but is actually quite relevant to the subject.

What part of DO NOT TALK TO THE MEDIA is hard to understand?

Hell, this probably wouldn't have even happened if I'd applied my personal policy to my corporate policy. Which, you will note, I have done ever since last year.

Blogger VD June 19, 2018 4:15 AM  

I'm guessing there is already a hit piece mostly written.

Yes, after Chuck Dixon talked to the two reporters, it became obvious that what started as a neutral piece on Castalia House had transformed into an anti-Alt-Right piece after NPR got involved. No doubt there was more media interest in the latter.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 5:36 AM  

I am not talking about talking to the Media. That's stupid. Not even off the record. I get that.

What I am talking about is playing the misinformation game. Trolling, not interviewing. Making a fake account, dropping a hint of something juicy, something that HAS to be acted upon, and leaving a vapor trail. There are literally thousands of anonymous things you can do to frustrate and encourage someone to dig their own hole.

Which actually brings up a relatively important question... Why the resistance to 'going active'? I assume it is something other than the usual bowtie-twirling 'we are better than that' nonsense, and you have mentioned several times that it is time to use the left's own tactics against them... obviously, you cannot compete directly (or quotably) with the media unless you happen to be the god-emperor, but there are thousands of 'banana in the tailpipe' tricks... Deplatforming, careful newsburns, 'legal' harassment, inventive paper trails, petitions, sponsor calls, wild goose chases, going over their head, and the like, that anyone can do with relative ease and without violating any laws.

This is trolling of the finest order. making someone's life and career a living hell without once breaking any laws or leaving any actionable intelligence. Is it merely lack of faith? It's not like the people that DO these things have any real power or position...we are pawns, whether we like it or not. How is it 'bad' for an overlooked pawn or ten to lay traps for the more important pieces?

Would it be worth it just so those that prefer to be soldiers rather than generals would have a way to keep their edge sharp and their hatred alive? I don't remember who mentioned it (Probably every decent general that ever lived) but Garrison duty RUINS troops... having the anger and the will and never DOING anything with it could dull the edge of even the most fanatical...

If there is a very good reason NOT to make low-level harassment a part of this activity, I would very much like to know it... call it the multi-SD IQ understanding gap if you like, But I, and many others like me, want to DO something... we have made ourselves anti-fragile, we have played the survivalist games, armed ourselves, laid in our food storage (sometimes literally), we have voted, cheered the GE, glued the 16 points over a thousand urinals, boycotted, gotten into fistfights at rallies, and gone to prison for physically ejecting trannies from little girl's restrooms. We have gone to church faithfully even if we are too autistic to truly believe, because we WANT to believe in a higher power and we have SEEN the effect Christianity has on our world... and what the lack of it has done as well. We have opened our hearts and our minds to Christ, and even when he doesn't answer we still hope and pray, to the best of our ability, to one day know and understand.

And we sit. And we rot.

Look, you seem to want something from those people that you hate communicating with because they don't seem to be smart enough to get you... Something more than just selling books.

So we try to figure it out. We float ideas. Sometimes they are bad ideas. Sometimes they are good ideas, often they are ideas met with derisive insults... not explaining WHY they are a bad idea, or giving a better idea, but simply "You are too stupid to understand".

Fine. Then I am too stupid to understand. I am not STUPID, but apparently I am far enough away from you intellectually (in one direction or another) to figure out from a thousand articles What exactly... in small words please, do you want them, and us, to DO?

Or do we just keep rotting?

Blogger VD June 19, 2018 5:48 AM  

What I am talking about is playing the misinformation game. Trolling, not interviewing. Making a fake account, dropping a hint of something juicy, something that HAS to be acted upon, and leaving a vapor trail. There are literally thousands of anonymous things you can do to frustrate and encourage someone to dig their own hole.

Yes. We know. Don't do that. Just ignore them. Stop trying to be clever, stop trying to defend your comment, and just accept the fact that your oh-so-clever and not-at-all-obvious idea has been rejected and no one is going to pat you on the head and tell you that you're a smart boy for seeing what no one else can see.

How is it 'bad' for an overlooked pawn or ten to lay traps for the more important pieces?

Because you're going to fuck up and make it worse. You, and all those smart boys like you, are not even remotely equipped to deal with a media that is very experienced at getting people to offer them quotes that are used to discredit and disqualify others.

So we try to figure it out. We float ideas. Sometimes they are bad ideas. Sometimes they are good ideas, often they are ideas met with derisive insults... not explaining WHY they are a bad idea, or giving a better idea, but simply "You are too stupid to understand".

What can I say? You observably ARE too stupid to understand. You actively resist accepting the reality of the situation. I have explained on several occasions why it is ALWAYS stupid for the average individual to talk to the media. It NEVER does them or their friends any good. NEVER.

Even someone who is an absolute master, like Milo, managed to get tripped up in the end. Even someone who is a highly intelligent and experienced former member of the media like me managed to get worn down and played by a particularly stubborn reporter once. (The Wired Rabid Puppies piece... what the fuck did European problems with African immigrants have to do with the fucking Hugos, right?)

in small words please, do you want them, and us, to DO?

In this context, DO NOT TALK TO THE MEDIA. How is that hard to understand? In the larger context, support the good guys, withhold and withdraw support for the bad guys.

Blogger Lovekraft June 19, 2018 6:07 AM  

Just hold up Jim Acosta's disgraceful temper tantrum at the US/NK disarmament summit as the reason for dismissing these charlatans.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 6:09 AM  

There are probably millions of leaderless men. The GE is a masterful manipulator, a force of nature, and a brilliant tactician, but he is not a LEADER to the rank and file... he cannot be.
Obviously, Vox does not want to be that leader. he probably could do the job, but I cannot blame him for not wanting the job... the crown is miserably heavy and restricting. We have tried to make that leader, or find that leader, and every single time that leader has turned out to be a dud. They are psychotic (Peterson), interested only in greed or pushing some kind of product, are simply fakes that want to use us to build a 'brand' and hop to the top of the existing twisted heap of lefty infrastructure, or they are simply talkers (with apologies to Buchanan...talkers are important but they are not leaders)

We have gotten a million 'don'ts', but the only 'do' we have gotten is 'try to live your own life'...but what if that life that we want to live involves finding someone or something to be loyal to? Christ and Nation are all very good, but they are not very... immediate. We tried that, especially us military guys, but even today's military is so full of asslicking and PC and rules and shifting chains of command and political necessity and absolutely no room for personal loyalty.

I sometimes feel very sad for so called 'alphas' that will never understand or experience true loyalty to someone else. They may be at the top of the heap, and comfortable there, but they are like those friendless autistic Omegas that will never really understand trust, faith, or the rewards of being honorable.

Even Sigmas like to know who to trust.

Blogger Lovekraft June 19, 2018 6:12 AM  

re Dire Badger:

perhaps the analogy of 'we are building an SJW-proof home. A new home with new defenses because all the old ones didn't work and the home became infested.

In order for this home to remain relatively secure, we have numerous security apparatuses, including identification of dangers. The media is near the top of that list.

Blogger Stilicho June 19, 2018 6:14 AM  

Well, Frau Merkel and company could use another 1.6 billion to attack their unruly subjects, so a hefty fine isn't out of the question.

Blogger VD June 19, 2018 6:16 AM  

We have gotten a million 'don'ts', but the only 'do' we have gotten is 'try to live your own life'...but what if that life that we want to live involves finding someone or something to be loyal to? Christ and Nation are all very good, but they are not very... immediate. We tried that, especially us military guys, but even today's military is so full of asslicking and PC and rules and shifting chains of command and political necessity and absolutely no room for personal loyalty.

That's absolutely not true! Ask ANY of the volunteers who are actively involved with any of the projects if there is nothing concrete to do.

I sometimes feel very sad for so called 'alphas' that will never understand or experience true loyalty to someone else. They may be at the top of the heap, and comfortable there, but they are like those friendless autistic Omegas that will never really understand trust, faith, or the rewards of being honorable.

That is a textbook gamma comment. Alphas absolutely understand trust, faith, and loyalty. Because those things run both ways, as you would know if you had ever had a positive relationship with one.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 19, 2018 6:20 AM  

"I sometimes feel very sad for so called 'alphas' that will never understand or experience true loyalty to someone else."

Just tattoo "cuck" on your forehead.

Blogger James Dixon June 19, 2018 6:20 AM  

> It would be kinda funny to lead her down some hellacious rabbit hole that ends in her making the 4 chan hall of shame next to Shia Ledoof.
> It is always a time for trolling.

It awfully cold old tonight, surely this smallpox infected blanket won't hurt me just this once.

> I'm guessing there is already a hit piece mostly written.

You think?

> Which actually brings up a relatively important question... Why the resistance to 'going active'?

First, because 99.99% of people, even intelligent people, can't do it successfully.

Secondly, if it is successful, what happens when she makes that the story and links it to Markku in print?

Dealing with the press is a no win situation. They set the rules of the games and they're not going to allow you to win.

> If there is a very good reason NOT to make low-level harassment a part of this activity, I would very much like to know it

See above. See Nate's post. Do you have friends and family? Can they be hurt by the press?

If she can't find Markku, her attempts to find Markku become the story. And if trolling is part of that, that becomes Markku's story, and the story of anyone she can identify who trolls her. And people will read it.

If no one will talk to her, well, that's a pretty boring story, isn't it?

Blogger AvocadoBob June 19, 2018 6:47 AM  

There is, indeed, always a time for trolling.

The thing is choosing the RIGHT KIND of trolling.

The best way to troll the media?

IGNORE THEM.

We are talking about a massive, byzantine, multi-level machine that, for over a century, has managed to sway this country into doing this or voting for that through misinformation, outright lying, bullying, patronization, and sycophantic cooing over their Messiah/chosen product of the week.

They are used to attention, they want attention, they love attention, simply because any attention gives. Them. Power.

The best way to troll them?

Follow the God-Emperor-Who-Sits-On-The-Eagle-Throne’s example.

Ignore them. If you must talk about them, be utterly dismissive.

The fine art of trolling is to be able to trigger someone.

The lügenresse’s trigger?

Being ignored.

Do so, and deliciously salty tears shall be brought forth.

Don’t sacrifice your advantage just because you want a new stick to poke them with. You WILL screw up, and screw everyone else on your side by doing so.

Remember; while the press machine may be crazy, the ones that run the machine are crazy like foxes.

Try to outsmart them at their own game, in their own dojo?

You will lose.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) June 19, 2018 7:11 AM  

We have gotten a million 'don'ts', but the only 'do' we have gotten is 'try to live your own life'...but what if that life that we want to live involves finding someone or something to be loyal to? Christ and Nation are all very good, but they are not very... immediate.

Get married and have kids

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 7:42 AM  

"Get married and have kids"

Did that a while back. Pain is the best teacher. Now I figure feminists and lawyers are only good for fertilizer.

"That is a textbook gamma comment."
Probably. I am as vulnerable to 3am bouts of self-pity as anyone.

"Alphas absolutely understand trust, faith, and loyalty. Because those things run both ways, as you would know if you had ever had a positive relationship with one."

Then I have probably never met one, at least not since I was a kid. The only 'exposure' I ever had to an 'alpha' type was in prison, or listening to 'Mystery method' types that brag about it just before they get kicked to the curb by whatever girl they fail to bang.

Has anyone actually ever seen an alpha millenial?

Blogger Nym Coy June 19, 2018 7:48 AM  

Do: Edit infogalactic or join the burn unit.
Do: write a review of a castalia house book or arkhaven comic
Do: get your friends onto a new social platform like mewe or idka
Do: host weekly in-person pot-luck dinners and discuss things like prepping or neighborhood watch. something that builds a community in real life.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2018 7:58 AM  

Nym Coy nailed it. IGN is in dire need (no pun intended) of help on the editor front. The same small group of folks have been doing it since in started with no relief in sight.

There are lots of things you can do. For crying out loud look at the projects we have going. CH... Arkhaven. Infogalactic. IGN. Men of the West.


or... as someone else said.. you can do the hard things that will actually save the country:

1) Shut up and Go to Church.


2) Get married and have a bunch of kids.


Blogger JACIII June 19, 2018 8:00 AM  

"Don't talk to the cops.": wisdom ignored.
"Don't step on snake": wisdom ignored.
"Don't talk to the media.": wisdom ignored.

Bad results, all three. It never works out well.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 19, 2018 8:25 AM  

Ignoring the media is triggering, ignoring vapid women is triggering, this is a twofer.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 8:56 AM  

Nate:
Us Gammas don't have friends. Only long-term acquaintances we game with and girls we can barely tolerate.
1. yup
2. F* no. Insanity is doing exactly the same thing and expecting a different result.

Nym: the first one, I doubt very much they want tutorials on weaving mooring cables or how to write a decent adventure for Vampire the Masquerade. IG has been getting my 'wikipedia' money for the last two years (I stopped supporting WP after the Thomas Ball fiasco)
2 already done.
3. see response to Nate.
4. That is the best f*ing Idea I have heard in a VERY long time. Hell. screw the pot luck part, I am a very good cook, and I can afford to host a couple dozen people once a week, Thank you.

Blogger VD June 19, 2018 9:15 AM  

Us Gammas don't have friends. Only long-term acquaintances we game with and girls we can barely tolerate.

So make the move up to Delta. It sounds like you're already partway there. And remember, to HAVE a friend you have to BE a friend. It's the mutual self-obsession that prevents Gammas from developing friendships with each other.

Blogger The Smoking Man #3424 June 19, 2018 10:12 AM  

I always enjoy seeing our SDL (and friends) crack and begin rebuilding a gamma in a thread. Gives me real hope for the men of the future.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 19, 2018 10:13 AM  

Gamma Rage is ridiculous. Dire Badger, I should have known you were a Gamma when I accepted your friend request and your profile picture was some cartoon character or some shit. Do yourself a favor and stop. Take the first step to delta by admitting you were wrong. Stop digging.

Blogger Long Live The West June 19, 2018 10:40 AM  

How do you mess with a reporter? Ignore them. It can literally ruin their life. No stories means no career.

In addition to that, these people pride themselves on victimhood. If they can't virtue signal about how some Nazi messed with them, they got no street rep with their fellow vultures.

Narcissists wither and die when ignored.

Blogger Thucydides June 19, 2018 11:00 AM  

Although I don't know Dire Badger, I understand some of his frustration. We are up against a very densely woven web of finance, power, influence and information that the Progressive movement has built over a century (starting in the modern era with Woodrow Wilson), so expecting results is very frustrating. Even the God-Emperor can only move so far and so fast.

He is advocating various Attack the Network (AtN) tactics, but realistically AtN requires vast resources to do the link analysis, make the strikes, assess the effects, identify new nodes etc. Dire Badger, myself or even Vox simply cannot do this alone. General Stanley McChrystal required the resources of Centcom to do this to AQ in Iraq, which should give you an idea of the scale and scope of the problem.

Since striking the nodes is pretty much off limits, isolating the nodes is our only realistic strategy, and it works! The NFL retreated on its policy of letting players kneel during the national anthem after an 18% drop in viewership, despite having billions of dollars available to ride out the storm. Time-Warner and Disney are much larger targets, but the bleeding from CNN or the self induced destruction of the "Star Wars" franchise must already becoming apparent. If they want to reach into their piggy bank to double down, then that is actually a positive step for us (they may have billions of dollars of cash, IP and real property, but even billions are a finite resource). Low level pawn like that reporter are easily thwarted by ignoring them, and will be discarded like used tissue if they don't deliver. Don't answer and crash their careers, while snipping another thread in the larger network.

So do the work you can do at your level (the weekly meet ups are already a thing for me, and we are slowly expanding our circle), and patiently work to create something new for you and us, outside of the Progressive networks.

Blogger Xellos June 19, 2018 11:21 AM  

@69 (heh)
Much better answer than "cuz u dumb gamma".

Blogger James Dixon June 19, 2018 11:36 AM  

> He is advocating various Attack the Network (AtN) tactics, but realistically AtN requires vast resources

Not really. But you need to now in advance what risks you're willing to take and what goals you're trying to accomplish. Simply causing a no name reporter short term grief isn't going to accomplish much, and we're not at the "some assembly required" stage yet.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 19, 2018 11:37 AM  

The reporterette is not just the opponent in the ring. She is also the referee. And the ringside judges. And the owner of the venue. Her close personal friends are the color commentator and the guys calling the fight for radio and TV. Her editor is the cameraman and TV director. She even provides the crowd.
And the fight will be pre-recorded for later broadcast. And edited down to 30 seconds.

Even if you win, everyone will literally see you lose.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 19, 2018 12:02 PM  

@Dire Badger

You sound like a teenager who's being warned by his father not to do something, but who has to learn things the hard way.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 12:36 PM  

Animal Mother-

That was the very first frame of the first pixelart animation I created back in '92, while standing gunner watch-and-watch in the FC pit during Hurricane John, while our ship was rolling nearly 30 degrees and every Kapok Locker and Davit was getting stripped off by a mini-typhoon that nearly sent us to the bottom.

It also marked the start of the post-navy career that would set me free of bosses and HR departments forever.

Screw your 'cartoon character' bullshit. It's vastly more significant than the bland duck-face disneyworld crap everyone uses as an avatar.

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 12:40 PM  

VFM #7634-

You sound like the bucktoothed ginger that stands next to the fat 13 year old still stuck in the 6th grade while he's screaming insults and saying "Yeah!" every time he stops for breath.

What's your point?

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 12:41 PM  

@James Dixon-

"we're not at the "some assembly required" stage yet."

What will be the most obvious sign that we ARE at that stage?

Blogger I DontTroll June 19, 2018 12:49 PM  

RE Ignoring them and the salt it produces:

Anyone remember this one from 6 months ago? She was bitching about a YouTuber not doing an interview with her and thus getting "good" exposure by working with the press. The YouTuber had ten times her followers.

https://archive.fo/zM4U6

Blogger I DontTroll June 19, 2018 12:50 PM  

Good Lord, look at her Twitter backdrop. https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz

Blogger Dire Badger June 19, 2018 1:06 PM  

I see nothing wrong with a youtuber demanding 5k to make himself a target for what will clearly be a hit piece.

Blogger James Dixon June 19, 2018 1:16 PM  

> What will be the most obvious sign that we ARE at that stage?

IMO, when the current cold civil war goes hot in your area. You'll know, believe me. There won't be any mistaking the signs. If you have any doubts, the time isn't yet.

Blogger James Dixon June 19, 2018 1:22 PM  

> I see nothing wrong with a youtuber demanding 5k to make himself a target for what will clearly be a hit piece.

Nothing except the price. He should be asking for at least $500K. From Google "ABC's World News anchor Diane Sawyer makes $12 million". They can afford it.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 19, 2018 1:23 PM  

@76

"What will be the most obvious sign that we ARE at that stage?"

When the police are investigating more murders than all other crimes put together.

And politicians refuse to appear on TV, for fear that they'll get offed mid-interview.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 19, 2018 1:29 PM  

Good lord, look at the latest post on her twitter feed:

"
Taylor Lorenz
‏Verified account @TaylorLorenz
5h5 hours ago

Nothing makes me more mad than when people ask me for recommendations. Like unless we are very close friends you can please f off I don’t have the hours per day dedicated to giving paragraph long refs for every stupid thing it drives me crazy.
17 replies 0 retweets 59 likes

Taylor Lorenz
‏Verified account @TaylorLorenz

Like, I’m vegan and only go to the same 2 shitty bars. I can’t answer 4800 questions about the hottest places in NYC I literally try to stay in my apt as much as possible. Not trying to be a jerk but I get like 4 messages a day at this point. I’m not a city guide 😭😭😭"


Makes her living pestering people asking them inane questions;
Complains about people pestering her asking her inane questions.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus June 19, 2018 1:59 PM  

83.
It's called just earning a living in this time frame for the SJW. She puts out the sh!t needed by the cause (coz) and retires by 4:30pm to get on with her Sex In The City lifestyle. Hey, it's why her "local community" funded her rise to status in the first place. Don't you dare wreck that buzz.

Blogger heidi June 19, 2018 2:10 PM  

Whomever it was who talked about host/guest responsibility/privilege? That was excellent and certainly applies here. It is idiotic and narcissistic to consider or advocate for an action which could directly negatively effect your host. And do to so, in light of our obvious guest status, shows an over-inflated sense of self-importance and disrespect.

Blogger I DontTroll June 19, 2018 3:47 PM  

@83 None of that showed up for me when I checked her feed. Weird.

Blogger Longtime Lurker June 19, 2018 4:30 PM  

Just to be clear: Robb is not sympathetic to the Alt Right.

https://www.revealnews.org/article/anatomy-of-a-fake-news-scandal/

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 19, 2018 4:50 PM  

Don't talk to the cops
Don't talk to the Feds
Don't talk to the IRS
Ever. Attorneys exist for a reason.

Don't talk to the SPLC, NAACP, ADL, ACLU, Hope Not Hate, or any other "civil right's advocacy group"

Don't talk to leftist bloggers, reporters, legacy MSM journos, or any type of online pseudo-journolist. They can read Twitter, Reddit, 4chan/8chan, etc., just as well as you can. They know this movement is full of lonely young men wanting GFs. That's why there's so many attractive/semi-attractive young women assigned to the Alt-Right beat. They're dumb, but they're not totally stupid.
YOU WILL NOT GET LAID OR FIND YOUR SOULMATE,BY TALKING TO THEM.
Trust me, I'm a woman. It ain't ever happening.
They'll tell you they find you interesting or they just want to understand where you got your ideology, how you came to your current POV on life, etc.
THEY DON'T CARE. THEY LIE.

If it's some young dude that hits you up, he'll be all like, "Hey, man. I get it, dude, we can just hang out and you can explain how you see things. I was pissed about the election, too, 'cause I was a Bernie Bro."
HE DOESN'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOU OR BE YOUR FRIEND.

The whole time he's talking to you, he's planning on how he can ruin you and your entire family's lives by writing some huge, viral click-bait hit piece, calling you Nazi scum.

GET OFF OF DISCORD!!! They are turning over EVERY chat log to the ACLU/ADL, Unicorn Riot, BAMN, It's Going Down, etc.
JUST DELETE IT.

Don't seek out and engage these ppl on social media. There's no reason to put yourself on their radar and you'll inadvertently reveal personal details to them, and if they are vindictive they will go after you.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TROLL THESE PEOPLE. They have an infinite number of people/time, and an open spigot of cash influx, along with control of platforms YOU DO NOT.
It's very, very easy for all of us to fantasize in our heads how we can out think, trick, or turn the enemy's ploys against themselves.
But, the cold hard facts are-you're just not as smart as you think you are. Besides that, someone you've involved in one of these capers WILL F UP. Maybe you won't be the one, but someone, somewhere down the line, will. It's the same as you trying to outwit some journo, ok, say you do a great job, but will your mother, your spouse, your brother-in-law know how, or even that they're supposed to, to play brainy Jedi tricks on these people?
Do you want these people printing where your kids go to school, where your GF lives, or a pic of your parent's house, complete with their address & phone numbers, out on the internet, just because you thought you could outsmart some lefty THOT???
JUST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 19, 2018 5:13 PM  

For the record, I've made it over FIVE DECADES without even getting so much as a traffic/parking ticket, and I've legally carried a gun for 30+ yrs, as well as a large knife, since I was a little 65 lb girl,in 7th freaking grade. I was a tiny holy terror at that age! I got into fights weekly, I cut a girl's neck, I beat another girl in the head with an old glass Coke bottle. I was out of control.
But, I quickly grew up and got married young, had children quickly, and have 8 beautiful grandkids, and own a steel import business.
I'm also the same age as Vox.
Look, if a WOMAN who made terrible life decisions in her teens can do that, as a man, you have no excuses. I know for a fact that most of you regular posters are far more intelligent than me, as well.
Some of you, however,do lack a great deal of social skills, self-confidence, maturity and the know-how to be good, strong, independent grown men, but I'm rooting for you, and I'm certain you can get there.

You really can keep your noses clean and your mouth shut, if you just get over your egos, enact some personal discipline & control of your emotions, and always employ that white genetic agency of yours. 😉

Remember guys-Just DDSS.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 19, 2018 5:21 PM  

Nothing cuts a woman,(in any and all life scenarios), harder or deeper, than to be ignored.
I doesn't matter what her age is, what her ideology might be or even the reason she's trying to interact with you.
Business or personal, if you want to cause a woman to feel pain,just IGNORE HER.


Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 19, 2018 5:23 PM  

You won't need to be told when it all starts to go full FUBAR, hon.
It will be obvious.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 19, 2018 5:59 PM  

Passive-aggressiveness-check
Feeling of moral superiority-check
Subtle expressions of class superiority-check
Feeling of intellectual superiority-check
Attention seeking-check
Virtue-signaling-check
Narcissism-check
Humble bragging-check
Overly self-confident-check

What a winner. Make sure you let this gem ruin your life, guys!

3 points-

1)she's a 6, (at best), with her Twitter pic being far better than other candid shots of her that are available online.

2) Lorenz doxed all four teen daughters of Pamela Geller,the blogger, tv and radio show guest,huge NeoCon/semi-well known GOP activist and sponsorer of the Anti-Islam/Draw Mohammed contest in Garland, TX that got shot up by Muslims.
Geller has had to have 24/7 bodyguards for years, but was forced to go into hiding for nearly a year, after that event.
Her daughters, who only go by their father's last name, were becoming pretty large e-celebs, bloggers, YouTubers, what have you, and had never associated or mentioned that she was their mother.
That didn't stop our intrepid Ms. Lorenz! She wanted to make somebody she didn't like, pay.

Not only did this doxing cause the girls to lose a tv show deal, a book deal, stand up gigs in NYC, etc. but it ALSO put a target from crazed lefties and Muslims on their heads, as well.

IMO, this young woman, Taylor Lorenz, is an entitled, self-serving, insensitive and evil c*nt.
Apologies for using the ugly epithet. I believe, however, it is completely justified.

3) Taylor Nicole Lorenz's family ancestry is open to the public, online.

Blogger Jay in DC June 19, 2018 6:31 PM  

@59 Dire Badger:

"The only 'exposure' I ever had to an 'alpha' type was in prison, or listening to 'Mystery method' types that brag about it just before they get kicked to the curb by whatever girl they fail to bang."


You've never met a natural Alpha. You would know it immediately as they don't need to broadcast it whatsoever.

--------------------

@James Dixon-
""we're not at the "some assembly required" stage yet."

What will be the most obvious sign that we ARE at that stage?"

You are too short for this ride...


That being said, if you -really- wish to act which I 100% understand. Just do it. Tell nobody, look for no credit. Anon your way to the lulz and if you are even semi-good at it, word will spread.

This way, the only person you endanger, is -you-. Be your own lone wolf bad actor. This is the alpha way because you require no direction whatsoever and expect no praise. It will happen organically if it is deserved.



Blogger Thucydides June 19, 2018 9:48 PM  

Just to amplify what James in DC said, if you are planing to go that route, use avenues of approach which are not obvious to our enemies and out of their control. Street artists like Sabo putting up posters at bus shelters (especially ones which look like what you expect to see at a bus shelter), the "Thanks Obama" stickers on gas pumps during the period when his administration was pushing fuel prices up or even studying the use of Samizdat.

As well, the idea of meet up groups to exchange information and ideas in person should be explored and exploited; personal contact is by far the best and most effective way to spread messages.

Note the legacy media, social media platforms or SJW mobs have little to no entry or traction in these situations.

Blogger Dire Badger June 20, 2018 1:56 AM  

Actually, I have a meetup group that goes to ammm... Court in divorce cases, to give the father support, advice, and financial help when necessary to fight for his kids. Considering how often it happens even here, we meet a LOT.

I was figuring that would be a good group to broach the whole cookout/meeting thing. It's not exactly the kind of subjects you broach when you are bowling, Golfing, or playing poker.

Admittedly, though, most are pretty pure beta/gamma. It takes a while to get over the shock of your greatest ally turning into your worst enemy.

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