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Wednesday, June 27, 2018

Go home, Germany!

A pair of upsets in Group F. Sweden beat Mexico 3-0 to top the group, while Korea upset Germany 2-0 to hand second-place to the Mexicans.

I watched the Korean game. Germany had their chances, but the Koreans deserved the victory.

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Blogger Nate June 27, 2018 12:18 PM  

These upsets are super exciting... right up until you realize in the long run... they actually make the thing less interesting. Sure its fun now. But in the end? No. In the end of sports tournaments you want to see the big dogs fight it out.



Blogger Mr X June 27, 2018 12:19 PM  

What's wrong with Germany? They have been playing very badly this cup. Even when helped by a victory of Sweden in the other game, they screwed up.

Blogger Mr X June 27, 2018 12:28 PM  

It's difficult to make predictions with so many upsets, but in the end I think the final may be Argentina vs Brazil or Argentina vs Spain. And then Argentina will lose. They don't have a good team but tend to be lucky. Incidentally now Sweden has a good chance to make it to the top 4.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart June 27, 2018 12:36 PM  

I don't live at home in Germany anymore, but there seems to have been disunity in the German team. No surprise when two of the Turkish hyphen German players politically campaigned in their host country Germany for the reelection of the dictator of their Turkish home country. Obviously there's lots of speculation, and I wouldn't know one way or another, but surprising it is not.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart June 27, 2018 12:40 PM  

In the end of sports tournaments you want to see the big dogs fight it out.

Is Germany, as a football nation, a big dog? Yes. Is this team they've fielded a big dog? No, not at all. Finished bottom of their group, not a single goal in first half of any game....., loads of negative superlatives, relative to any other German participation in any football tournament.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 27, 2018 12:44 PM  

Germany really look like they miss Philip Lahm, Bastian Schweinsteiger and to an extent Miroslav Klose .

Blogger pyrrhus June 27, 2018 12:51 PM  

Germany didn't look like Germany at all...I think Croatia and Sweden are interesting dark horses, although if Argentina's midfield can continue playing as they did against Nigeria, they will be very tough.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly June 27, 2018 12:55 PM  

One upset or note is fine for excitement this early on. When it is ALL upsets there is a problem. One plucky contender that gets brushed away in later rounds? Exciting AND subconsciously satisfying to our sense of order.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 27, 2018 1:03 PM  

The Germans were slow.

Every team they played were moving faster than them. They had total domination of field position and possession but only because they took fifty times longer to get the ball upfield and then give it away.

They made all three other teams in their pool look good but one suspects only because they were so bad.

Oh well, that’s Germany’s officially sanctioned nationalism over for another four years.

Blogger Nostromo June 27, 2018 1:15 PM  

As far as upsets go, happens all the time in the NCAA basketball tournament, and yet it is almost always the big dogs playing for the championship. Underdogs are underdogs for a reason. Everyone cheers for the underdog except the fans of the overdog they're playing.

Blogger pyrrhus June 27, 2018 1:20 PM  

O/T Trump talks about funding the Government from tariffs--Is Trump the reincarnation of Andy Jackson!? https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8u4gpw/trump_just_launched_the_first_salvo_at_the_irsfed/

Blogger pyrrhus June 27, 2018 1:24 PM  

@10 True, and Brazil, Argentina, Spain, France and Uruguay are still in...all former winners. So it''s probably one of them to win.

Blogger qualitycontrol June 27, 2018 1:30 PM  

@2. Mr X
Jogi Löw chooses a tactic that doesn't suit the team. He wants to play with side defenders that move up without having the players for it. Back when Lahm and Boateng played there it worked fine. But Boateng plays in a center position now and Lahm retired. He should have played the same setup that won the Confed Cup last year and we would have been fine.

Blogger great_o'rety June 27, 2018 2:02 PM  

Somehow our Polish catastrophe no longer bites as bad as it did

Blogger BR MK June 27, 2018 2:04 PM  

My thoughts exactly. And in the next world cup they will probably miss Neuer.

Blogger Zwiebel June 27, 2018 2:26 PM  

They've very closely aligned themselves with the rhombus of death (Merkel), and the "... Actually... We're Turks" affair or the fact that they are no longer the national team, and no longer sporting the national colours... I haven't seen this little enthusiasm for the world cup since... Ever. The amount of German flags on cars and houses is at an all time low, and that even though many people in the countryside now fly them year round.

Blogger BR MK June 27, 2018 3:00 PM  

In my opinion, Neymar should not have gone to PSG. At Barcelona, he had a better sense of positioning in the field.

Blogger Athanasius Gabardinus June 27, 2018 3:09 PM  

"I haven't seen this little enthusiasm for the world cup since... Ever."
I can confirm that.
Though most of them probably can't verbalize it yet I have the suspicion that what's in the air today vs. 2014 is the recognition that national identity is a blood serious thing. Waving flags and cheering for the "team" that is not of the nation was a distraction.

Blogger qualitycontrol June 27, 2018 4:26 PM  

@15. BR MK
In theory Neuer should be Number 2. ter Stegen is at least on the same level as Neuer. And much younger. Draxler will be a good replacement as captain. Being 28 in 4 years should mean that he is going to hit his peak.

'I haven't seen this little enthusiasm for the world cup since... Ever.'
I agree.

'Waving flags and cheering for the "team" that is not of the nation was a distraction.'
I actually checked it and you'd be surprised how German (or European) the team was. Of the 23 Players, 18 were european , 3 mixed race (two mulatos and one half arab) and two turks. If you want to see a mercenary team look at France.

Blogger jb June 27, 2018 4:49 PM  

Been a bad month for the Krauts.

Blogger Nate June 27, 2018 5:17 PM  

"Though most of them probably can't verbalize it yet I have the suspicion that what's in the air today vs. 2014 is the recognition that national identity is a blood serious thing."

That's the dumbest thing written here today. The idea that greater nationalism would result in less interest in national teams is so amazingly stupid... How could you possibly think it?

The problem with the world cup is simple. The big soccer powers that bring their huge fanbases... aren't involved.

Italy isn't involved. The Netherlands... Now germany… the US... on and on... the big names are not around. it doesn't feel like a world cup. We said that before the thing even started.


Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 27, 2018 6:40 PM  

As san Arsenal fan i can tell you one big reason for Germany's failure: Ozil has no heart at all.

The defending has also been surprisingly crap this tournament. They've blown past the record for penalties given, and were not even done with the groups stage.

The lack of some of the more popular teams (and the US) certainly has dampened enthusiasm, but another major difference from 2014: Brazil is 2-3 hours difference, Russia is 9-11. Morning games during the week just aren't going to draw much interest, even some of the better matchups.

Blogger David The Good June 27, 2018 6:45 PM  

I saw the end of it. That second goal was a gimme... the Koreans did deserve their win.

Blogger Ceerilan June 27, 2018 6:47 PM  

Reading the original headline of this post, I thought it was a news headline for 10 years from now.

Blogger emx1 June 27, 2018 6:49 PM  

Strongly agree with Nate. I think that in the longer run, ethnic composition of teams will matter, but right now it's all about the soccer. And it's just not as compelling when many of the big countries and players aren't there.

Blogger Lazarus June 27, 2018 8:01 PM  

David The Good wrote:I saw the end of it. That second goal was a gimme... the Koreans did deserve their win.

Because the goaltender was playing upfield. It is like in hockey when they pull the goalie for an extra attacker.

People HAVE been know to miss in that situation.

Blogger Lazarus June 27, 2018 8:03 PM  

emx1 wrote:Strongly agree with Nate. I think that in the longer run, ethnic composition of teams will matter, but right now it's all about the soccer. And it's just not as compelling when many of the big countries and players aren't there.

Maybe they aren't there because everybody else stepped their game up.

Blogger Freddy June 27, 2018 9:02 PM  

Last night I was about to double down on Germany... but, I, doubted. I threw it all on Sweden. What do you think about Japan over Poland? " Look what Korea did to Germany, Samurai Warriors, Poland is ours!"

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 27, 2018 9:09 PM  

Germany encountered problems immediately with Mexico. The coaches either failed to try or could not correct their obvious problems, and the Germans laid an egg. Deservedly. Two games later they're on the plane back home. That's why they play the game!

Oh, BOO HOO, the super powers are locked out. Is this a sport or isn't it? You have to win.

I could not care less if the usual powerhouses wind up in the finals or not. If they belong there, they need to prove it. They need to NOT be carried across the finish line like Hillary Clinton because it is their birthright or something.

Blogger Lazarus June 27, 2018 9:51 PM  

The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey wrote:I could not care less if the usual powerhouses wind up in the finals or not. If they belong there, they need to prove it.

Amen. N World Order crumbling.

Blogger Lazarus June 27, 2018 9:54 PM  

I did not see any Germans congratulate any Koreans.

think about it.

Blogger select star June 27, 2018 10:11 PM  

*cough cough*

Blogger MendoScot June 27, 2018 10:38 PM  

@1. Nate, mate, first I can't believe that you have become such a faggot that you are reduced to commenting on real football.

Second, that you care about the big games, rather than our own teams. I always want Scotland to qualify and win. And if not, England to lose. Badly. The old grudges are played out on the field.

After 20 years in Argentina, who have some of the best players in the world, it frustrates me that an excellent team is still hoping that one player can get them through.

Vox posted about the imprtance of team play in footie, recently. Messi seems to be running the team, and the rest of the team are a little lost between a Catalan and their Coach. The rumours are that no one can control him on the national team. But Renaldo doesn't seem to have the same problem on a far inferior team...

I'm afraid that I might be seeing identity politics everywhere now.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar June 27, 2018 11:02 PM  

Going home to flat beer.
Sucks to be them.

Blogger Jack Amok June 28, 2018 1:34 AM  

After 20 years in Argentina, who have some of the best players in the world, it frustrates me that an excellent team is still hoping that one player can get them through.

BTW, what's wrong with your Rugby team?

Blogger Athanasius Gabardinus June 28, 2018 3:38 AM  

"That's the dumbest thing written here today. The idea that greater nationalism would result in less interest in national teams is so amazingly stupid... How could you possibly think it?"

Sir, what we're looking at is ...

- A "national" team that has deliberately removed the national colors from the jersey.

- A "national" team that struck the word "national" from its official designation

A "national" team that keeps players like Özil and Gündogan on board who openly say "Erdogan is aour president" - the same Erdogan who openly advocates population replacement, so that Turks be the future of Europe.

- A "national team" that permits players to refuse singing along with the anthem because they profess that all honor should exclusively go only to Allah.


A lot of people here in Germany did not feel like cheering for that "post-national team" or investing any emotion in it. It is not "our" team, it's Merkel's team.
Trainer Löw and Merkel have always been very cozy.

The idea that greater nationalism would result in increased interest in worshipping false symbols of a PC pseudo-nation is ... who could possibly think it?

"Take a respected institution.
Kill it.
Gut it.
Wear its carcass as a skin suit. And demand respect."

A lot of us Germans might be less interested in worshipping a skin suit team. It's too obvious.

Cheering for Team Merkel is not nationalism.

Blogger Nate June 28, 2018 9:37 AM  

"Nate, mate, first I can't believe that you have become such a faggot that you are reduced to commenting on real football."

if you read the comment carefully you'll see that what I was saying was about sports tournaments in general. In fact what I primarily had in mind was the NCAA tournament.

Everyone loves it when the 1 seeds go down... but then the final four comes around and you and all your friends sit around talking about the games... instead of watching them.

Because no one really cares about no-name underdogs. What everyone wants... is Duke vs Kentucky.

The same truism applies to the world cup.

Blogger Nate June 28, 2018 9:39 AM  

"I could not care less if the usual powerhouses wind up in the finals or not. If they belong there, they need to prove it. "

and you completely miss the point. No one is saying they deserve it.

I'm saying the games are less interesting without them and the enormous fan bases they bring... and that largely accounts for the lack of interest.

Blogger Jack Amok June 28, 2018 11:30 AM  

Because no one really cares about no-name underdogs.

Exactly. They care about whether a no-name underdog can win against a powerhouse. Which means you need the powerhouse. Two underdogs playing each other is kinda meh, unless it's to see who goes on the challenge the Champ in the finals.

The best recipe for a final four is 1 Cinderella team and 3 top seeds.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 28, 2018 1:56 PM  

Oh I get your point, Nate. It's easy enough to understand, and I encounter it in my family in every year that the New York Yankees aren't in the World Series. Those would be the "Meh" years for many of my beloved knuckleheads.

I simply disagree, and watch because of the love for the sport.

Blogger Damaris Tighe June 28, 2018 7:50 PM  

the football fans are the last redoubt of nationalism in many european countries. the english defence league was formed from these fans.

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