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Friday, June 22, 2018

Setting the stage

Here is a random thought. What better way to lay the groundwork for helping the average American grasp the true extent of the globalist evil than first getting the media all stirred up about the poor chilruns and child abuse by the government?

Especially since there does appear to be a direct connection between the migrant invasion, child trafficking, and the Obama administration:
The United States government placed an unknown number of Central American migrant children into the custody of human traffickers after neglecting to run the most basic checks on these so-called “caregivers,” according to a Senate report released on Thursday.

In the fall of 2013, tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors traveled to the U.S. southern border, in flight from poverty and gang violence in Central America. At least six of those children were eventually resettled on an egg farm in Marion, Ohio, where their sponsors forced them to work 12 hours a day under threats of death. Local law enforcement uncovered the operation last year, prompting the Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations to open an inquiry into the federal government’s handling of migrants.
And that's before we even get into the Clinton Foundation, Haiti, and all of the sordid details that entails. Meanwhile, a second Suicide Weekend starts early.
Jeanine Pepler, the publicist who represented novelists Jay McInerney and Candace Bushnell, hanged herself Sunday night in her home in Sag Harbor, LI, taking her life the same way Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain did earlier this month. Sources say she was 50. 
Would people seek fame so avidly if they knew what a price they had to pay for it?

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Blogger Wolfman at Large June 22, 2018 4:25 AM  

A useful tool for people looking into Qstuff

https://public.tableau.com/profile/nerothehero#!/

Blogger tublecane June 22, 2018 4:28 AM  

The trafficking angle was noticed by many rather quickly. These giant propaganda offensives by the MSM and ruling class have had poor returns lately because they can no longer suppress "alternative facts."

Normies aren't holding it against Trump much, according to polls I've seen. It could actually end up benefiting him if the left continues to double-down, which a book once told me they tend to do.

As far as laying groundwork, I was thinking Hollywood would be part of that, with the Corey Feldman version if Me Too. Though not via Feldman himself, because he's unreliable. There are a surprising number of movies and tv shows about sinister conspiracies involving the abuse of children. That could be exploited.

Blogger Phillip George June 22, 2018 4:39 AM  

We should ban door nobs

#architectsforsuicideprevention

Blogger Jeff Wood June 22, 2018 5:17 AM  

Hanging yourself from a doorknob is a bloody difficult thing to do successfully. Quite possible it was murder arranged post mortem to look like suicide.

Blogger wreckage June 22, 2018 5:50 AM  

The far left are trying to make border separation about the Evilgelicals craving sweet Mexican babies for their (adoption) fetish.

What's the Third Law?

Yeah.

Trump might not have planned this, but he'll sure as eggs take advantage.

Blogger Lovekraft June 22, 2018 6:04 AM  

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/former-secret-service-agent-files-rico-lawsuit-against-clintons-podesta-and-soros/

Here we go! Finally, a lawsuit claiming the vast network of non-profits engaged in RICO violations.

A natural extension of the anti-Trump hysteria. The left forces us to bring their actions into the light.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 22, 2018 6:05 AM  

When you said "child abuse by the government" it made me think of the "education" system.

Blogger Brett baker June 22, 2018 6:05 AM  

Ebery time Christians go up against God-Emporers, it has ALWAYS gotten unpleasant for Christians. Of course, that's all ancient times to the churchians.

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Blogger Lovekraft June 22, 2018 6:06 AM  

VD: you've heard Starbucks is closing 150 stores due to dismal economic results and their, more likely, overplaying the virtuesignalcard?

Blogger Phillip George June 22, 2018 6:14 AM  

Starbucks closing stores is rayciss - they should apologize.

Blogger VD June 22, 2018 6:28 AM  

VD: you've heard Starbucks is closing 150 stores due to dismal economic results and their, more likely, overplaying the virtuesignalcard?

Yes, I do occasionally frequent that little-known media outlet which which so few are familiar called THE DRUDGE REPORT.

As I have pointed out before, there is absolutely no need to bring to my attention anything that is on IG News, the Drudge Report, or Instapundit.

Blogger tublecane June 22, 2018 6:37 AM  

"Would people seek fame so avidly if they knew what a price they'd have to pay for it?"

I was thinking about the cliched storyline in popular entertainment about the dreamers and strivers stuck away from "where it's at," surrounded by pet who "just don't get it."* Which can take place in a small town and climax with the protagonist, usually a kid, going to the Big City. Or maybe they already live in the city but haven't "made it" yet.

Movies, tv, books, and the rest are full of this stuff. I used to think because the people behind them experienced such things, but could be a sort of set trap by predators. They incept kids with the idea that the world just doesn't understand, and they'll find deliverance by becoming vulnerable and anonymous on the mean streets.

I dare say this is not so bad of it's a Horatio Alger story. Or if, as in Rocky, it leads to wholesome things like finding a girl with whom you can build a family. It's not even so horrible if it's a Holden Caulfield story, though that characters is having a psychological breakdown. Because his "journey" is existential, and he avoids material pleasure and falling under other people's control. (Not counting the nuthouse, where I assume he ended up, though I can't remember.)

Also, this is one of those archetypal narratives. The hero's journey and all that. Still, I keep thinking about the music video for Small Town Boy by the openly gay band Bronski Beat. Which is all about how a gay kid has to "run away" from his family and move to the Big City. Probably into the arms of an understanding queen.

*Specifically, this was inspired by watching a comedy sketch about a fake Broadway play on the life of Hitler. They had a young Hitler leaning out a window at night, looking up at the stars, singing: "When will I be special?"

Blogger Mark Stoval June 22, 2018 6:55 AM  

"As I have pointed out before, there is absolutely no need to bring to my attention anything that is on IG News, the Drudge Report, or Instapundit."

I always figured there was little reason to bring your attention to nearly anything. How fast can you read anyway?

I have found good news sources and good blogs over the years just following the many different links in your posts. Good stuff.

Are we real sure that Q is not a VD project and they report to him?

Blogger Howard Stone June 22, 2018 7:02 AM  

Alex Jones was talking about Joe Rohan being a Soros apologist yesterday, and he was also talking about Joe taking DMT. Now, I’m sure DMT can be synthesized, but I also heard that it is also a natural chemical found in the human pineal gland, and that it is released into a persons nervous system at the time of death and is responsible for a very euphoric feeling. I also have heard stories of people harvesting this chemical from people, but you have to kill the person to get it. Something along those lines.

But what I’m getting at is that DMT use could very well be one more connection between celebs and illegals crossing the border who maybe abducted and killed to harvest their DMT in order to feed the Celeb drug habit.

I think Bourdain would have definitely been into DMT.

But anyway yeah, Rohan has admitted to using DMT, and he’s just apologized for Soros, so yeah he’s probably involved in human trafficking even if only by getting high on harvested DMT.

Yeah even as I write this I’m thinking about how crazy it sounds.

Blogger Antony June 22, 2018 7:10 AM  

15 - DMT is naturally found in many plants, and has been used this way for millennia in South/central America - no need to go to all the bother of killing people for it !

Blogger Stilicho June 22, 2018 7:21 AM  

Interesting thought. Similarlu, the entire Q operation strikes me as possibly a psyop being used to test the operational effectiveness of a sustained, planned information/persuasion campaign (i.e. Let's see how far we can move the needle/change the paradigm using these anonymous hints). If this is the case, then the truth of the assertions is irrelevant as Q is trying to determine what can be accomplished with these methods. The final analysis would also include the relative effectiveness of ascertainable facts versus conjecture and relative proportions of each that are the most effective. It would be valuable intelligence tool as well as a powerful part of a political campaign.

Blogger tublecane June 22, 2018 7:22 AM  

With has-been Peter Fonda in the news for suggesting Barron Trump be locked up with pedophiles, I wonder, is there a pedophile connection in the Fonda family? Did something happen to Peter at a tender age?

I hate that I have to think about such things.

Blogger pdwalker June 22, 2018 7:25 AM  

@18 Given the Hollywood values that have been in play for about a century now? Let's just say I wouldn't lay odds against it.

Blogger VD June 22, 2018 7:26 AM  

what I’m getting at is that DMT use could very well be one more connection between celebs and illegals crossing the border who maybe abducted and killed to harvest their DMT in order to feed the Celeb drug habit.

As a general rule, if you don't even know the guy's name, you probably shouldn't be talking about theories that he's somehow tied to human trafficking. And DMT does not require human sacrifice; it is not particularly scarce.

Blogger tuberman June 22, 2018 7:56 AM  

Yes, It's a Trap, but they fall for them...Every.Single.Time.

They get the comped and stupid R's to play their game for a day or two, Laura Bush, the Illinois governor Bruce Whatever, and Stuart Varney on Fox Business, then they declare victory. A few days later facts leak out, and the less dim ones start to say, "Hey, wait a minute here."

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums June 22, 2018 7:59 AM  

It's most certainly possible to kill yourself by hanging from a doorknob.
It's also very likely that if {[(they)]} wanted you dead and not leave any tracks they can easily make it look like a suicide or an accident.

So if a 3rd suicide by doorknob appears I think there's a strong case to be made that there's some hidden message behind it. Either it's a legit suicide and it's a "hint, hint" to those "in the know", or it's a legit assassination with a clear "hint, hint" for those "in the know".

I mean imagine being a celebrity of their level, with their connections and their influence. You have access to so many doctors and drugs it's hard to believe you would choose such a primitive way to kill yourself.

Blogger Howard Stone June 22, 2018 8:20 AM  

Yeah, well, it did sound crazy, like I said, but I’ll leave discussion of DMT and Joey Rohan to more learned men than myself.

Blogger James Dixon June 22, 2018 8:32 AM  

> Would people seek fame so avidly if they knew what a price they had to pay for it?

I've never understood why people want to be famous anyway. Rich, yeah, that I can understand.

> Starbucks closing stores is rayciss

That's a distinct possibility. They may very well be only closing stores in more "virbrant" areas.

> Are we real sure that Q is not a VD project and they report to him?

While the concept is appealing, I tend to doubt it. :)

> So if a 3rd suicide by doorknob appears I think there's a strong case to be made that there's some hidden message behind it.

This was the third one. Spade, Bourdain, and now Pepler.

Blogger Looking Glass June 22, 2018 8:36 AM  

Any of the Adrenochrome-like stuff is just trap to send you down so many rabbit trails you'll never figure out anything. Only thing the elites really seem to be doing is some new cocaine derivative. Normal cocaine abuse destroys the endocrine system, so it's probably bound to something that prevents that or otherwise skips Testosterone levels. Theranos' ex-CEO and soon to be federal prisoner shows pretty intense signs of masculinization, but without the normal hormone replacement effects.

Considering how many of them have started going full Test Cycles, I think it's safe to assume they do that to also mask whatever else is popular among the billionaire class. Though it could literally be Coke + T injects.

Up to 3 "death by doorknob" events in a couple of weeks for people with high-ish media profiles. That ain't no coincidence.

Blogger Ben Cohen June 22, 2018 8:48 AM  

Hitler Stalin and Mao took the dmt! Chris Geo sees the clockwork elves folks!

Blogger Dad29 June 22, 2018 9:08 AM  

I would also suggest that one should examine the credit-card receipts of Cdl. McCarrick to find out where he ate pizza while in D.C.

Blogger widlast washere June 22, 2018 9:30 AM  

Starbucks is closing stores that aren't profitable. Seems that areas run by liberals aren't conducive to making money. high taxes, absurd regulations, and all that.

Whooda thought?

Blogger Stilicho June 22, 2018 9:33 AM  

Ban doorknobs now! If it saves a sinle celebrity...

Blogger Matthew McDaniel June 22, 2018 9:41 AM  

But saying ‘Rohan’ makes him sound more like a Tolkien character.

Blogger Cloom Glue June 22, 2018 9:46 AM  

@13 While reading that, I thought of two stories which begin with leaving the Big City disaster, instead of leading into it, but lead us into new dead end paths that spit out the troubled persons again: The Rajneesh documentary series Wild Wild Country, and the movie Lifeguard (going back to childhood, small town, family, regrowing up, and back out ... to the Big City, of course, to journalism ... again).

Those Hollywood stories acknowledge the unhappy path and then tack on ungodly twist(s) toward new unhappy paths, diabolically pretending to rescue us from big errors with these false happy endings which in real life are unhappy, like A Woman Wanted (Holly Hunter, KeiferS, Moriarity). It has interesting characters examining interesting errors, problems, adultery, and then it suddenly tacks on a path into single parenthood as a happy ending.

Blogger Cloom Glue June 22, 2018 10:00 AM  

Stilicho wrote:Interesting thought. Similarlu, the entire Q operation strikes me as possibly a psyop being used to test the operational effectiveness of a sustained, planned information/persuasion campaign ... It would be valuable intelligence tool as well as a powerful part of a political campaign.

That is plausible. In contrast, there was the BAnon political campaign that did not work out ... and he was visible instead of invisible. There is a dynamic of visible versus invisible influence.

Blogger wreckage June 22, 2018 10:15 AM  

The latest left wing talking point is that the border detentions were to harvest adoptable infants for the Evangelical market.

"This is a calculated political move by the Trump administration to throw candy in the form of helpless children to the evangelical base."
"Pence is a mouthpiece for the adoption industry lobby, and this fits. They are making money from detention"

Emm Paul on facebook:

"We're afraid that the US is going to start terminating some of these parents rights' to feed the industry. It's frightening.

And that might be why we are not seeing photos of infants, toddlers, and girls."

Blogger Zapp Brannigan June 22, 2018 10:20 AM  

“She seemed to be doing great. They had a lot of plans for the future.”

That's what's so telling about a lot of these recent suicides. Spade was a wealthy philanthropist with a family and living a high-profile life in New York. Bourdain was a famous celebrity chef with an attractive girlfriend who had just launched a new show. Avicii was a world-renown DJ, jet-setting to fabulous hotspots all over the world and essentially paid to throw parties; I believe he was working on a new album. Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell were both famous rock stars who were still writing and performing.

Besides the obvious similarities, what strikes me about these recent suicides is the fact that all of these people were moving forward with their lives and setting concrete plans for the future. In many cases, they were working on projects that would occupy them for months and years. I recognize that it is difficult to understand the mind of a mentally ill individual, or one who is experiencing acute depression, but the fact that ALL of the celebrities who have committed suicide recently had future plans makes me suspicious.

Blogger S. Misanthrope June 22, 2018 10:28 AM  

Hollywood won’t tell us about the cost of fame when their entire business model relies on idiots pursuing it.

Pixar’s Coco *almost* addressed the topic, but a last-minute dodge of the real issue ruined it. LaLaLand tells the truth if you have the eyes to see it, but most just see the usual “Never give up on your dreeeeeeams!”

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 22, 2018 10:33 AM  

Instead of banning doorknobs we should start sending scarves to celebrities.

Blogger Mocheirge June 22, 2018 10:37 AM  

Are we sure they are just plain old doorknobs? They could actually be murderknobs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBDPAV3Yss

Blogger Mark Stoval June 22, 2018 10:41 AM  

"Ban doorknobs now! If it saves a single celebrity..."

If I ever get to be dictator, I will have all the mainstream media executed and then all celebrities. Every damn one of them. Sure a few good guys might get it during the purge, but you have to break a few eggs ...

Blogger Cecil Henry June 22, 2018 10:47 AM  



Liberal hypocrisy: Diversity for thee, never for me


Crowder asks liberal churches if they would open their heart and house refugees. Hilarious. For liberals it's all about virtue signaling. NIMBY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9zIzIePjpo




Virtue signalling is no virtue. Its theft, of people's lives and heritage, their past and future.

Blogger wahr01 June 22, 2018 10:54 AM  

Today will set the weekend news cycle with the media's most powerful emotional play boomeranging upon themselves.

"The Honduran government has confirmed to Reuters that the crying girl on the TIME cover was never separated from her mother by US authorities "

https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1010121223206993920

A lot of the people the DNC whipped into a frenzy are about to be converted to the "you are fake news" crowd.

Blogger Avalanche June 22, 2018 11:03 AM  

@17 "test the operational effectiveness of a sustained, planned information/persuasion campaign (i.e. Let's see how far we can move the needle/change the paradigm using these anonymous hints)."

Somewhere, way way back in the dawn of Q and QAnon, someone suggested (and it seemed reasonable to me) that the chans were recgonized (by some very smart intel folks?) to be the 'cure' for the siloed analysis (and group jealousy) that made the official intel orgs essentially useless and often wrong. As the officials would not share info -- even IF it would prevent 911 -- the whole intel structure was visibly corrupt.

Noticing and then ... forming by successive approximation ... an external analysis org that did NOT suffer from siloing allowed for deep analysis -- and amazing research and recognition -- even without access to the classified stuff.

Really the chans are magnificent -- and if one or more of them comes back with the wrong stuff, a new 'hint' sends them off in a better direction -- and they DON'T QUIT!

Blogger Crew June 22, 2018 11:13 AM  

It really looks like the Deep State Swamp has no more use for those people, and is cleaning up loose ends because they are the sort of people who might spill the beans.

Blogger Crew June 22, 2018 11:19 AM  

@1: Thanks for that.

It is interesting to note that California seems to be a hotbed of pedo activity:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/nerothehero#!/vizhome/PedoArrests/USHeatClicktoFilterList

Oh, wait. CA is where PedoWood is.

Blogger Looking Glass June 22, 2018 11:56 AM  

Crew wrote:It really looks like the Deep State Swamp has no more use for those people, and is cleaning up loose ends because they are the sort of people who might spill the beans.

Wagon Circling/Disconnecting Networks.

They have to protect information about the Black Files and the pedo stuff, so the smart ones will be cutting their networks off from others. The two Chris deaths seem to have been staged events, though there is ways to make someone commit suicide.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 12:39 PM  

@2

"There are a surprising number of movies and tv shows about sinister conspiracies involving the abuse of children. That could be exploited."

I wonder where they get the ideas for the plots?

Blogger Crew June 22, 2018 12:54 PM  

And another StarTrek fan is a pedo:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/man-who-saved-ncc-1701-d-touring-bridge-pleads-guilty-to-child-porn-charge/

Blogger Looking Glass June 22, 2018 1:03 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:@2

"There are a surprising number of movies and tv shows about sinister conspiracies involving the abuse of children. That could be exploited."

I wonder where they get the ideas for the plots?


Look at Christopher Nolan's filmography. Then ask yourself what inside information he actually has. Then realize he's British & his brother, who writes most of this with him, is good friends with Elon Musk.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 1:17 PM  

@15

". Now, I’m sure DMT can be synthesized, but I also heard that it is also a natural chemical found in the human pineal gland, and that it is released into a persons nervous system at the time of death and is responsible for a very euphoric feeling. I also have heard stories of people harvesting this chemical from people, but you have to kill the person to get it. Something along those lines."


Good God, that's the plot(*) to the movie Liquid Sky



(*) Other than one small, inconsequential detail...the chemical has to be harvested just as the victim is having an orgasm...the victims all die anyways. Which leads right back to Pizzagate.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 1:41 PM  

@33

Wow... that's a HUGE unforced error on their part -- going right for kids coming across the border being trafficked.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 1:45 PM  

@34

Having suffered from depression (i.e. low serotonin levels), I can assure you that making multi-month to multi-year plans is not typical. In fact, getting the motivation to just do 1 or 2 simple things a day beyond the bare necessities of living is difficult. This includes conducting basic hygiene, and things like brushing or combing one's hair.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 2:03 PM  

@41

"Somewhere, way way back in the dawn of Q and QAnon, someone suggested (and it seemed reasonable to me) that the chans were recgonized (by some very smart intel folks?) to be the 'cure' for the siloed analysis (and group jealousy) that made the official intel orgs essentially useless and often wrong. As the officials would not share info -- even IF it would prevent 911 -- the whole intel structure was visibly corrupt."

FBI won't share with CIA both of which won't share with MILINT.

Most Intel is just "news", and Crowdsourcing that sort of Intel is perfect.

Blogger Crew June 22, 2018 2:03 PM  

Has Wikileaks now gone over to the globalists' side? It has published personal details of ICE employees:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/wikileaks-publishes-database-showing-personal-data-of-ice-employees

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 2:10 PM  

@43

https://public.tableau.com/profile/nerothehero#!/vizhome/IndictmentDashboard/IndictmentDashboard

Well, lookey-dere.... The two leading states for both sealed and unsealed indictments are California and Texas. Good things are happening, and will continue to happen in the future.

Blogger Thucydides June 22, 2018 2:16 PM  

Hanging yourself on a doorknob seems more typical of "Auto-Erotic Asphyxia", which also claimed people like David Cardine and INXS singer Michael Hutchence.

The cause of death is embarrassing enough that family, friends and even any actual investigative journalists (should some still exist) will likely not wish to follow up.

Of course, the real question is were these people really exposed to dangerous information which needed to be concealed? If so, why would conventional means like blackmail no longer be considered valid by their hypothetical controllers? They had families, long term plans and national exposure, so there were lots of conventional levers to use if silence is the desired end goal.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 2:17 PM  

@52

Hotile Takeover.

Assange's embassy hosts cut off his internet access several months ago.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 2:17 PM  

@54

"Hanging yourself on a doorknob seems more typical of "Auto-Erotic Asphyxia", which also claimed people like David Cardine and INXS singer Michael Hutchence."

Which never made sense and I didn't believe for a moment....

Blogger Crew June 22, 2018 2:37 PM  

@53: Yeah, there are probably lots of dirty politicians in CA because of PedoWood.

I wish they would start unsealing them and perp walking some of the bigger names.

Maybe Brown is one of them ... or Tim Cook.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 2:50 PM  

@57

There's over 20,000 sealed indictments.
My suspicion is that they want to serve them all on the same day. This might even require Marines assisting law enforcement (because the Marines, being department of the Navy, are NOT subject to the Posse Comitatus Act).

Blogger tz June 22, 2018 4:18 PM  

Meanwhile, what does TedX Bear?

Blogger OneWingedShark June 22, 2018 6:47 PM  

Crew wrote:Has Wikileaks now gone over to the globalists' side? It has published personal details of ICE employees:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/wikileaks-publishes-database-showing-personal-data-of-ice-employees

Dirk Manly wrote:@52
Hotile Takeover.
Assange's embassy hosts cut off his internet access several months ago.

There was also some weird stuff going on with WikiLeaks at that same time + some weird internet outages. One 4chan anon claimed that he was in (or in contact) with WikiLeaks and it was a government operation.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 22, 2018 6:58 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:@57
This might even require Marines assisting law enforcement (because the Marines, being department of the Navy, are NOT subject to the Posse Comitatus Act).

Posse Comitatus is a stupid, useless non-effectual law. Period.
Proof:
18 U.S. Code §1385 - Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus:Whoever, EXCEPT IN CASES AND UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY THE CONSTITUTION OR ACT OF CONGRESS, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
Note the capitalized portion, keep that in mind as you read the following clause from Article 1, Section 8:
To provide for calling forth the Militia TO EXECUTE THE LAWS OF THE UNION, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
See that? The militia [read Army] may be called forth to execute the laws of the union. Note that the Congress is not empowered to select which laws to execute, but only to provide the lawful method for calling the militia [read Army] into action.

There you are.

Blogger Will Brown June 22, 2018 8:15 PM  

@61

The way that works is, the federal government is restricted from calling out the Army/Air Force against any but legislatively pre-approved domestic circumstances, or suppression of insurrection or invasion. All 50 state's Governors have the legal authority and responsibility to declare a state of emergency to exist within their state and declare a state of Martial Law as a result. The individual state Governors control their state's National Guard/Air Guard unit(s) and they can and have used their state's army forces against the civilian populace on their own authority on numerous occasions.

If a given state's civilian law enforcement needs additional bodies to "round up the unusual suspects", that state's Governor can call up as many troops as necessary to backstop the usual badge tote-ers.

Posse Comitatus is a federal constraint only.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 22, 2018 9:02 PM  

Will Brown wrote:@61
The way that works is, the federal government is restricted from calling out the Army/Air Force against any but legislatively pre-approved domestic circumstances, or suppression of insurrection or invasion.

Again, that's NOT what the actual law actually says; the pertinent part is: “EXCEPT IN CASES AND UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY THE CONSTITUTION”.

The Constitution explicitly allows for the Congress “TO PROVIDE FOR CALLING FORTH THE MILITIA”, expressly to “EXECUTE THE LAWS OF THE UNION”. Period.

If the militia therefore can be called to execute the laws of the union expressly by the Constitution (as I've just shown) then 18 U.S. Code §1385 is a legal nullity, having zero effect precisely because the Constitution expressly allows the calling forth of the Army to execute the law. — if this is not the case, then it amounts to Congress saying “You can only execute what laws we approve.” (But that too is ridiculous, because this means that passing a law is somehow not the legislature's approval of that law.)

Posse Comitatus is a federal constraint only.
I've said nothing about state-level actions; indeed, I've been using only the federal Constitution and the "Posse Comitatus" law.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 22, 2018 9:31 PM  

@52 Crew
Has Wikileaks now gone over to the globalists' side?
---

I heard about this, it is very disappointing.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 22, 2018 9:36 PM  

@60 OneWingedShark
Hotile Takeover.

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The hostile takeover, and now they will attempt to ruin wikileaks reputation before the midterms and 2020 election.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 22, 2018 10:10 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:The hostile takeover, and now they will attempt to ruin wikileaks reputation before the midterms and 2020 election.
Here's a 4chan info-pic: The rundown.

If it's at all correct, then it'd be more apt to be run by the opposition.

Blogger flyingtiger June 22, 2018 11:52 PM  

I still believe that this "Open Borders" idea is just a way to bring back slavery. Remember the D's supported slavery.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 23, 2018 11:45 AM  

@63

You're not reading the law correctly. The FEDERAL ARMY is not THE MILITIA. It is THE ARMY.



I've been in the National Guard.
I'm in the Reserves.
I've been on federal duty (Title 10 orders) inside CONUS, as a Federalized NG soldier.

Posse Comitatus prevented us from carrying firearms and making arrests.


Meanwhile, non-federalized NG, (Title 32 orders)(*) were conducting operations in the states, carrying weapons, and making arrests.


YOU have no idea what you are talking about.

(*) Including troops from the same platoon of my NG unit as me

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