Shadier and shadier
Brett Kimberlin and DNC Staffer Helped Push ‘Russiagate’ to Feds
Before he went live on Twitter with this report, Lee called me to explain what he had discovered. Alexandra Chalupa was a DNC staffer who left that job in summer 2016 to focus full-time on the Trump/Russia angle. Her association with Kimberlin was reported in 2017. Yet until Lee started poking around, no one seems to have caught the significance of her Facebook post, in which she asserted that “The Protectors” (apparently an online front for Kimberlin’s tax-exempt Justice Through Music Project, and likely involving Neal Rauhauser) had “teamed up” with federal agencies to encourage investigation of the phony Russian “collusion” narrative.This borders on pathetic. Was the local homeless guy otherwise occupied? I'm beginning to understand why Q keeps repeating "these people are stupid".
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It is a combination of stupid and lazy. They had so many black hats in all the right places -- particularly the media that they need not try very hard. The bad guys just got so sloppy over the course of years that they are going to be so easy to expose and hose away like filth on a sidewalk.
@Joeplanet I heard the GE just got a new pressure washer.
Isn't/wasn't Kimberlin that one man lawfare spree a few years ago?
@3 Sean Carnegie
Yes, and that's "convicted terrorist" Brett Kimberlin.
Sean Carnegie wrote:Isn't/wasn't Kimberlin that one man lawfare spree a few years ago?
Yes.
He's a genuine piece of work.
He set several bombs in Speedway IN in the 1980s to distract police from his massive drug wholesaling operation, and possibly the murder of his underage girlfriend's grandmother.
While serving time for the bombings, he claimed to be a political prisoner, and the REAL reason he was in prison was because he was Dan Quayle's drug dealer.
@1 Nails it on the first comment. The left has been effortlessly winning for over 100 years because the right didn't meaningfully resist. That's over now.
My question is whether or not Trump has the drive to clean all this out. This isn't just draining the swamp, it's cutting a major canal to keep it drained.
The way I see it, we're talking about two sets of crimes. The first set, before the election, is about illegal surveillance of the Trump campaign under color of law. Civil rights violations, possibly obstruction of justice...felonies, but not "Locked up forever" felonies.
However, once Trump was elected - and doubly so, once sworn in - we have a separate set of crimes. These are 18 USC, Section 2383-5ish. These are offenses that deal with the attempt to overthrow the Government of the United States - and make no mistake, that is precisely what was going on. An effort to depose a legitimately elected President, and to undercut his lawful authority in the meantime. We're talking Insurrection and Seditious Conspiracy. Arguably Rebellion. These are serious felonies, with 10 and 20 year sentences.
The vexing part is that I am convinced that a search of the first tire culprit's communications will reveal a much larger Seditious Conspiracy, one involving large parts of the Propaganda Press.
Trump has a once-in-a-generation opportunity here to really clean things out. Mass arrests, wholesale prosecutions, deep-dive investigations that turn up the whole sordid mess. Reelection by acclamation in 2020. But only if he has the nerve and drive to exploit it.
@7 And there are basically two options: clean it up, or let the perps go with the knowledge that this conduct won't be prosecuted as long as it's the left doing it. In which case the USA is over.
Lee Stranahan isn't exactly pro-Trump, which lends even more credibility to this story.
there is no longer rule of law in the USA. if you dont get that you are willfully ignorant.
Um, you’re missing the third and by far biggest set of crimes: everything and anything they did over the last few decades they were desperate enough to stay hidden that they were forced to try to rig the election. These are bigger than either of the two sets of crimes you describe.
Maybe it would be easier just to list DNC staffers who weren't involved in the RussiaGate hoax.
The worst thing about the whole "Russian involvement" scam? The only thing they ever had to go on was the Steele dossier, and there's no real indication that whole thing wasn't fabricated from the start. Steele may never even have talked to any Russians.
> Maybe it would be easier just to list DNC staffers who weren't involved in the RussiaGate hoax.
His name was Seth Rich.
@11 Chase: Maybe. Certainly the Clintons were engaged in wholesale influence-peddling, enough to put the whole family into prison for the rest of their lives.
However, I consider the Seditious Conspiracy to be a MUCH bigger offense. Part of making a government work - ANY government - is subordination to higher authority. The military hammers this into every recruit. Every person in the Federal Government answers to a higher-up...even the President and Supreme Court, which can theoretically be impeached by Congress (yes, I know, but that's the theory). And Congress answers to the electorate.
Now, we have partisan operatives in the Department of Justice who have decided to indulge in wholesale insubordination. To actively interfere with the lawful directives of their legitimate superiors. This is a firing offense.
Question: What happens when the Pentagon decides to play the Seditious Conspiracy game?
Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:@7 And there are basically two options: clean it up, or let the perps go with the knowledge that this conduct won't be prosecuted as long as it's the left doing it. In which case the USA is over.
The first outcome is way better, but even the second beats the status quo.
I'm hoping Trump drains enough of the swamp that the eventual, inevitable end of Mr. Lincoln's empire is relatively peaceful.
IF it wasn't for the devil helping the left they would be so incompetent that they wouldn't have done a single thing.
Some weasel is going to squeal to save his or her own hide. Who will be the Democrats' John Dean?
I'm beginning to understand why Q keeps repeating "these people are stupid".
I'm beginning to suspect that's an understatement, because they're showing a remarkable immunity to consequences, and you get more of what you incentivize (corollary: you don't get less of what you fail to disincentivize).
Given that most people, most of the time, will do (and even believe) whatever best avoids immediate emotional pain, which is more likely to be true of the typical "heroic bureaucrat" (who "bucks the system" and saves democracy from itself, because *he* knows "what's good for the People"):
1. He is a modest public servant, humble before God, and treats his body as a temple.
2. He is a grasping, venal, STI-ridden, substance-abusing atheist with multiple Cluster B personality disorders.
It is not just that they're stupid. If my hypothesis is correct, both their brain hardware and their mind software are so badly deformed (on average) that the entire Social Justice cult conspiracy (to control the world) is on the verge of collapsing from sheer incompetence (but not before destroying its host bodies politic).
A rebel without a General wrote:IF it wasn't for the devil helping the left they would be so incompetent that they wouldn't have done a single thing.
That's what happens when you worship yourself, and have as your innermost maxim, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."
Tough things, hard things, complex things, tend to not get done unless you really, really want to do them. Something else, usually a bit of graft, sex, pederasty, ends up coming into the picture and taking the focus of attention and energy.
Trump has a once-in-a-generation opportunity here to really clean things out. Mass arrests, wholesale prosecutions, deep-dive investigations that turn up the whole sordid mess
The depth of the mess we are in is beyond any one man to resolve, eve the god emporer. We are no longer a nation, we are a collection of ethnic groups.... the best hope as someone else stated is that trump clears enough of the corruptions so that the dissolution isnt catastrophic when it occurs.
The corruption is more than any one man can handle. Fortunately, Trump is not God-Emperor but God's Emperor. Trump may have enough divine aid to get 'er done.
"Fortunately, Trump is not God-Emperor but God's Emperor."
Given the imperial nature of the American presidency and the almost certain miracles involved in getting him there (as well as genuine hard work and effort) this is not far off from the truth. He's no Holy Roman Emperor of the modern day, but he's the closest thing we got.
Chalupa (seriously, that's your name?) also has admitted on FB (these people are STUPID) that she was aware that the DHS attempted to hack the voting rolls of Kentucky, Georgia, and Indiana. Lee S. has a video on his Twitter from this morning.
Indiana attempt: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/21/exclusive-obamas-feds-tried-to-hack-indianas-election-system-while-pence-was-governor/
Georgia attempt: https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/georgia-wants-know-feds-behind-probe-voter-database/zygtDPvR6iI9ukTE8CiPUI/
Irrevocable proof of vote tampering by the Democrats, the party of "Count Every Vote!", would be an extinction level event for them.
FYI, Q has a lot of stuff up today that all looks very, very serious. For those that are following him, it is worth checking out.
@15- I don't think the above-poster was referencing mere influence-peddling. Let your imagination run wild, because there is much evil in the world .What if we're comparing an attempted coup that might jeopardize the legitimacy of the Republic with a global NWO conspiracy to live forever by consuming the blood of kidnapped children?
That's just a f'rinstance. Whereas my mind used to be on mundane stuff like the International Communist Conspiracy, it's now stuck in Blood Libel territory.
Hammerli280 wrote:My question is whether or not Trump has the drive to clean all this out. This isn't just draining the swamp, it's cutting a major canal to keep it drained.
Trump's greatest strength is also his biggest weakness: he's a businessman and willing to negotiate. (And look at NK! Absolutely amazing negotiation.) — But this willingness to negotiate, and the propensity to see things in profit/loss terms, are not the proper tools for cleaning out corruption.
Don't get me wrong; I think he's serious in his effort to drain the swamp… I'm just unsure he realizes that huge portions of the swamp are essentially codified/enshrined in government, given the veneer of respectability. (The Federal Reserve Act, for example, or judicial immunity, or the idea that the supreme court has any roll in making/rewriting law [See A1, S1].)
The way I see it, we're talking about two sets of crimes. The first set, before the election, is about illegal surveillance of the Trump campaign under color of law. Civil rights violations, possibly obstruction of justice...felonies, but not "Locked up forever" felonies.
However, once Trump was elected - and doubly so, once sworn in - we have a separate set of crimes. These are 18 USC, Section 2383-5ish. These are offenses that deal with the attempt to overthrow the Government of the United States - and make no mistake, that is precisely what was going on. An effort to depose a legitimately elected President, and to undercut his lawful authority in the meantime. We're talking Insurrection and Seditious Conspiracy. Arguably Rebellion. These are serious felonies, with 10 and 20 year sentences.
The vexing part is that I am convinced that a search of the first tire culprit's communications will reveal a much larger Seditious Conspiracy, one involving large parts of the Propaganda Press.
Trump has a once-in-a-generation opportunity here to really clean things out. Mass arrests, wholesale prosecutions, deep-dive investigations that turn up the whole sordid mess. Reelection by acclamation in 2020. But only if he has the nerve and drive to exploit it.
The interesting thing is how much he could do simply by obeying the Constitution:
(1) Deploy the Army to the north and south borders w/ orders to secure it, authorizing lethal force.
(3) Art 1, Sec 8, Cl 8 only gives Congress the power to secure to the Authors and Inventors the exclusive right to their inventions: order the Copyright and Patent offices to invalidate ALL patents and copyrights not held by the author/inventor.
-a This obliterates the Patent trolling industry.
-b This obliterates Hollywood, Disney, and much of Tech [good things; because Tech H1Bs are being used as a population replacement program; all fraud.]
-c This obliterates much of the Defense contractor company's worth.
(4) Expose and destroy the H1b Fraud: government and corporate alike - RICO is appropriate given the fraudulent employment.
Imagine how instantly the Congress would respond; I don't think it would be unrealistic to see the Constitution amended by the next day. That sort of speed would set off alarm bells in the heads of most Americans. / Then imagine the reaction at actually using the Army to defend against an invasion! Would they try to impeach over that? Yes! (But that would be giving aid and comfort to the enemy... and guess what Congressmen aren't privileged from arrest concerning!)
" The bad guys just got so sloppy over the course of years that they are going to be so easy to expose and hose away like filth on a sidewalk."
I am not so sure. These scandals go on and on. The perps get their pensions. keep their fortunes and still sit in the top ten percent of Americans. Feeding and growing the deficient year-by-year. Do the Lois Lerners and the Comeys ever, ever get punished? I know that someday they will kneel at the Great White Throne and gnash their teeth.
But, punishment in this Life,, Ahh,, not so much.
@28
"But, punishment in this Life,, Ahh,, not so much."
I would like to think you are wrong, but I know better. The very word "Clintoncide" was coined because one crime family gets away with it every time. In the last 50 years I have seen almost none of the "bad guys" get what they deserve.
Even the government hit jobs are always pinned on some patsy "lone gunman". Magic bullet indeed.
But I do believe that they will get what they deserve in the next life. I believe that with all my heart.
@12 "Maybe it would be easier just to list DNC staffers who weren't involved in the RussiaGate hoax."
You mean: the ones still alive?
Brett Freakin' Kimberlin... some names just keep turning up again, just when you think they've been consigned to the dustbin of history.
It won't surprise me in the least when the RussiaGate nonsense inevitably leads back to Jamie Gorelick.
Chalupa?
Same here. She's been a Clinton cleaner of sorts with respect to both 9/11 and TWA 800.
Leftists on Facebook are acting like Trump/Russia collusion is already proven. Just goes to show how right Yuri Bezhmyenov was, that even if you unplug the bananas from their ears, you still won't be able to get through to demoralized leftists.
Our ruling elite are stupid. Much stupider than they used to be, anyway. But they still know how to do a few things, and they've set up a counter-Narrative in advance of Trump being an authoritarian seeking out his Reichstag Fire excuse. That will be their last-ditch defense, when we find out about Vampire Pedophile Cults, or whatever is coming.
I know every Republican President has been Literally Hitler since Nixon (they couldn't really pull it off with Ike, who defeated Literal Hitler, and he was an Establishment guy). But the propaganda has been acute, and they've never set anyone up to be perceived as not only a would-be tyrant but one under the thumb of a foreign power. A Traitor-President.
Narrative shifting. From the Guardian, no less:
Donald Trump was right. The rest of the G7 were wrong
Notice the first and last sentence had to mis-characterize Trump to make it past the editors.
tublecane wrote:r ruling elite are stupid. Much stupider than they used to be, anyway. But they still know how to do a few things, and they've set up a counter-Narrative in advance of Trump being an authoritarian seeking out his Reichstag Fire excuse. T
Of course they have, but they have lost control of events, the odd missile launch notwithstanding.
It will fail under an avalanche of evidence.
link here
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/13/trump-nafta-g7-sunset-clause-trade-agreement
it looked good on the preview but did not publish well.
@12
"Maybe it would be easier just to list DNC staffers who weren't involved in the RussiaGate hoax."
Well, there's Quiteshia, the cleaning girl... but she's a crack-head who doesn't know how to read.
@27
"Trump's greatest strength is also his biggest weakness: he's a businessman and willing to negotiate. (And look at NK! Absolutely amazing negotiation.) — But this willingness to negotiate, and the propensity to see things in profit/loss terms, are not the proper tools for cleaning out corruption.
Don't get me wrong; I think he's serious in his effort to drain the swamp… I'm just unsure he realizes that huge portions of the swamp are essentially codified/enshrined in government, given the veneer of respectability. (The Federal Reserve Act, for example, or judicial immunity, or the idea that the supreme court has any roll in making/rewriting law [See A1, S1].)"
I used to think that. But I've noticed that all of his negotiations are for the sole purpose of letting his adversaries step on their own d***s. Once he exposes them (PUBLICLY!) as complete boobs who shouldn't be trusted with a sharpened pencil, then he gives them the heave, ho.
It builds a public case.
And besides, the MIL INTEL guys are gonna hold a hard line anyways. They're doing enough work for him so that it's like bowling with kiddie-bumpers in the gutters.
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