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Monday, June 25, 2018

Shutting down the seaborne invasion

Angela Merkel's African flotilla is finally being stopped by Italy's new government.
Italy is seeking to have seven boats carrying roughly 1,000 migrants needing rescue off Libya taken back to North Africa, according to a Spanish aid group. Proactiva Open Arms, which has rescued thousands of migrants in the Mediterranean, said the Italians want the Libyan coast guard to conduct the rescues and return the migrants.

Proactiva said in a tweet that Italian coast guard authorities who coordinate rescues sent out advisories to all ships in the area but told the aid group: 'We don't need your help.'

In a tweet on Sunday, hard-line interior minister Matteo Salvini said: 'It's right that the Libyan authorities intervene, as they've been doing for days, without having the NGOs interrupt them and disturb them.' It comes days after Salvini refused to let a rescue boat with 224 migrants on board dock in Italy, saying those on board 'will only see Italy on a postcard'.
My guess is that Italy is going to start seizing the NGO ships first, then forcing the boats to return to Libya. That would probably be the most politically palatable place to start, since no one has any sympathy for them anymore. It would be more effective to simply sink everything that enters Italian waters pour encourager les autres, but that will probably not be necessary once Salvini starts the street-by-street repatriations he has stated are necessary. After all, there isn't much point in paying traffickers to bring you to Italy if you're just going to be sent back to a camp in Libya right away.

It's going to be interesting to see the next political polls in Italy. I expect the fast-growing popularity of Salvini and La Lega is going to astonish the world. It's very interesting to see how the 5 Stelle leaders are speaking in much more aggressively nationalist terms as well; 5 Stelle may be the senior partners in the alliance, but it's clear that La Lega is the driving force.

The BBC is whining that Salvini's "ferocious anti-immigrant rhetoric is proving very popular."

Also in Italy, we need a mass cleaning, street by street, quarter by quarter, piazza by piazza. A strong manner is needed, because there are entire areas of cities, entire parts of Italy that are out of control. 

Compare that strong and forthright language with Trump's indecisive civic nationalism that is too much for even the average US conservative to stomach, despite the fact that the genuinely American portion of the US population is already a relatively small minority. That is why Italy will ultimately survive and the USA will not. It appears that even when faced with an clear, present, and existential danger, Americans, like the white South Africans, will not even contemplate defending themselves or their nation until it is far too late. Apparently they prefer to instead redefine their nation out of existence.

It is highly unlikely that whatever calls itself "America" in the year 2100 will have any meaningful connection to the Christian English nation that declared itself independent of the British crown in 1776. The dirt that once belonged to the Iroquois and the Americans will belong to someone else.

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Blogger t bil June 25, 2018 4:23 AM  

The tide is turning. Italy is the first heavyweight turning right. An alliance of Italy, the Visegrad group, Austria, Denmark, and potentially the Netherlands and some of the Balkan countries has sufficient power to stop the invasion and is too big to be bought off or forced into submission by Merkel and Juncker.
Next step: Returning those that came earlier, and quit the EURO.

Blogger Doug Cranmer June 25, 2018 4:28 AM  

I still get shocked expressions here in Canada when I say the solution is to sink the boats and machine gun the survivors in the water.

Good Canadians, too. Lebanese, Sri Lankan, former Yugoslavian. It's always "former" Yugoslavia. Whatever the hell that is. And it wss.

Anyway. Apparently I am the bad guy.

Blogger Doug Cranmer June 25, 2018 4:37 AM  

And you have from ZeroHedge:

'Maxine Waters Calls For Attacks On White House Employees: "Create A Crowd And Push Back On Them"'

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-24/maxine-waters-orders-if-you-see-anybody-trump-cabinet-create-crowd-and-push-back

War is coming.

Blogger Avalanche June 25, 2018 4:43 AM  

@3 "Maxine Waters Calls For Attacks On White House Employees"

Thought inciting violence was illegal?! WHERE is ... oh I dunno... THE FBI!?!!?

Blogger Pierre Truc June 25, 2018 4:50 AM  

Yesterday on French TV news:

Cedella Roman - French teen jogger detained at US detention centre for two weeks after accidentally crossing Canadian border while jogging.

Narrative pushed by the journos (and they insist heavily on it):

- Crossing a border = totally innocuous, she did nothing wrong at all

- Trump = evil (obviously!)

Blogger Mar Go June 25, 2018 5:02 AM  

Pretty sad honestly. There's a Crypto nationalist leading the Quebec provincial polls that wants to reduce immigration by 20% to the province of Quebec(Quebec has special priviledges where it can choose who and how many people immigrate there) and also he wants to kick out immigrants who don't learn french. So we might actually get an immigration cut before Americans.
In a way Trump is probably the farthest American Civic Nationalism can go.
Vox, I'm also expecting a massive globalist/lefty backlash once trump gets out of office and a democrat gets in power. It's going to be bad for Nationalist Americans IMO.

Blogger wahr01 June 25, 2018 5:27 AM  

@3 and @4

You think that's bad?

A lefty jury in Berkeley just let off 5 antifa goons who were caught on video assaulting a Trump supporter in front of several officers and paramedics among other eye witnesses testimony.

The facade of justice is falling away.

Blogger Garuna June 25, 2018 5:42 AM  

I'm optimistic about American nationalism.

The cryin' beanlet hoax failed. The polls show that Trump and the Republicans are as popular as they were before. In some polls, Republicans have further closed the gap for the midterms.

According to the current trajectory, one of the likely results for the midterms is that Republicans lose some seats in the House but retain majority and they gain some seats in the Senate. What happens when the much vaunted blue wave doesn't materialize?

Democrats have only obstructed like crazy because they expected to win the midterms and rewrite 2016 as a fluke. Only two things can happen once the Republicans win 2018, either they continue on their anti-American path and keep losing. Or they move rightwards like they did after Reagan. Either case is good for Trump.

2017-2018 has been a struggle on the immigration front. But 2019 could change that.

Blogger Doug Cranmer June 25, 2018 5:49 AM  

The mother said, "It was just unfair that there was nothing, no sign at the border," said Ferne, who visited her daughter several times while she was detained. "It's like a trap … anybody can be caught at the border like this."

Woomp. Woomp. Woomp.

The girl's name is Cedella Roman, a French citizen identified but she's dark in the picture. Obviously an invader.

Blogger Sillon Bono June 25, 2018 6:04 AM  

@2

I still get shocked expressions here in Canada when I say the solution is to sink the boats and machine gun the survivors in the water.

I have thought about this, you need survivors to go back and tell the tale so they discourage the next wave, if you machine gun them no one will be left to spread the word, and machine-gun is not PR friendly, at least not initially.

You drop the migrants off the ships close to the African coast at night at a sufficient distance so they get a bad experience rowing on shoddy inflatable boats.

Now the key thing is to screw the NGO's badly, and I mean it, detaining them as terrorist and keeping them in prison for as long as the EU anti-terrorist laws allow. And not sinking their ships, but selling them for scraps (we don't want to pollute the Mediterranean more than it is already, we care about the environment)

This way you don't have to kill anybody, the press will not be able to resist and will bombard the normies for weeks with their (((emotional blackmail))).

Blogger Lovekraft June 25, 2018 6:06 AM  

What are the chances that the Sorosian open-borders activists and GloboJihadInc apologize for their actions? That they commit to repatriation as well as massive (and I mean massive) financial compensation?

Nope, me neither.

re the Italians: I'm certain they have a think-tank strategy setup that lists all the ways the left/oil suppliers/financiers etc etc can counteract, and appropriate responses. This is something to watch very closely as it will provide hints as to how the west can disentangle itself from the multicultural ideology.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 25, 2018 6:37 AM  

"It is highly unlikely that whatever calls itself "America" in the year 2100 will have any meaningful connection to the Christian English nation that declared itself independent of the British crown in 1776. The dirt that once belonged to the Iroquois and the Americans will belong to someone else."

Alas it was doomed to failure when they started making compromises early in the game, thus creating a multinational country; that grew into empire.

That on top of the importation of cheap labor, of course. Something history has shown to be a fatal mistake, EVERY SINGLE TIME. When will "we" learn that lesson?

Blogger Mark Stoval June 25, 2018 6:37 AM  

It is highly unlikely that whatever calls itself "America" in the year 2100 will have any meaningful connection to the Christian English nation that declared itself independent of the British crown in 1776. The dirt that once belonged to the Iroquois and the Americans will belong to someone else. ~ VD

That is a good bet for sure.

But what are the odds that the whites could hold a portion of what the USA is now? Could we defend the southeast? Could we give the rust-belt to the blacks and the west to the beaners?

I have been for breaking the USA up into nations (you know, tribes) for decades. It is time now, or as you say, the whites will be killed off.

By the way, if the whites are destroyed the non-whites will end up in a very large shit hole. Do they realize that?

Blogger Hugo Smith June 25, 2018 6:41 AM  

@Vox can you recommend any sites, YouTube channels etc. in Italian that are explicitly nationalist and are following the situation? I've been to Lega Nord's website but I'm looking for opinions and news that may not necessarily make into the English speaking media.

Blogger VD June 25, 2018 6:43 AM  

By the way, if the whites are destroyed the non-whites will end up in a very large shit hole. Do they realize that?

They don't care. Why should they, when whites don't even care if they survive? You're expecting people with shorter time preferences to be MORE concerned about a possible future than those with longer time preferences?

Blogger VD June 25, 2018 6:44 AM  

That on top of the importation of cheap labor, of course. Something history has shown to be a fatal mistake, EVERY SINGLE TIME. When will "we" learn that lesson?

Based on 8,000+ years of recorded human history, my guess would be "never".

Blogger ZhukovG June 25, 2018 6:47 AM  

For a country(USA) that's very founding was steeped in 'Enlightenment' silliness, we've had a good run. But, the bill is about to come due.

The election of President Trump bought us time and helped cast into sharp relief the differences that have been tearing at our country's fabric for over half a century. It is unfortunate that it must be this way, but the sooner American Civil War II starts in earnest the better.

In any event, well done Italy.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 25, 2018 7:01 AM  

VD wrote: "When will "we" learn that lesson?"

Based on 8,000+ years of recorded human history, my guess would be "never".


Indeed. Too much greed and short time preferences. There will no doubt be those (maybe even larger numbers than ever before) who see the future consequences, but will be shouted down - yet again.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 25, 2018 7:06 AM  

It's the slightly longer term equivalent of the rat standing on the pleasure stimulus pedal until it dies. Anything less than 100% eternal time preference will suffer similar suicidal tendencies. Cycle of history.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 25, 2018 7:08 AM  

"That is why Italy will ultimately survive and the USA will not."

Indeed we Americans (and Canadians) really don't understand true nationalism, and appreciate its power. And so even though some Europeans have gone further left than seems recoverable, the power of nationalism that lays dormant can arise very fast, and furiously.

We've got a lot more work to do to resurrect that sense of nationalism here in the fractured, deracinated US & Canada. Heck, we don't even know the definition of that word anymore, much less the true essence of it.

This is one of the biggest, most important things I've learned here.

Blogger Jeff Wood June 25, 2018 7:14 AM  

Vox is correct, I think. La Lega is the driving force.

At the weekend, the League had some success in elections in Pisa. This has not previously been welcoming territory for them. It seems clear there is a serious shift of opinion going on here in Italy.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 25, 2018 7:23 AM  

Everyone is a liberal till it costs them personally, especially the females of our species. If you want to speed something up make it cost women something, a latte or a luxury car if it's even hinted at being taken away you will have instant reactionary on your hands.

Blogger Amy June 25, 2018 7:26 AM  

The mother said, "It was just unfair that there was nothing, no sign at the border," said Ferne, who visited her daughter several times while she was detained. "It's like a trap … anybody can be caught at the border like this."

Woomp. Woomp. Woomp.

The girl's name is Cedella Roman, a French citizen identified but she's dark in the picture. Obviously an invader.


Yeah, she looks dark enough for me.

Anyone who travels border trails is expected to know when they’ve trespassed, even by mistake. C’mon GPS is ubiquitous and cheap. When we went to a park near the border, we carried our passports. It’s just called being civil. Signs are given at major checkpoints, where most people are expected to make entry. You make entry elsewhere for whatever “Into The Wild” reason you have? Be prepared.

I don’t like the whole conflation of “papers, please!” Nazi scare tactics with general LAW ENFORCEMENT. it’s tired. Libertarians are wrong on this point (and others, story for another day).

Blogger GithYankee June 25, 2018 7:46 AM  

225 million heavily armed whites should not be discounted too easily.
Really, we need to start studying US geography and find our natural borders for what is defensible and what is not. The Rockies are a major barrier but of course the Mexicans are on either side of it.
The Mississippi and Ohio are other natural divides. The wide open plains states are the most frightening. We need their farmland, but they seem impossible to defend against superior numbers.
All these equatorial gentlemen we dismiss so lightly will be armed with the latest Israeli technology. They completely control California, and large swaths of Texas. They have essentially rolled back the Louisiana Purchase.
That's just now, before fighting starts, and we have very few military age young men. The vietnam-era boomers have plenty of guns, but are only able to ambulate via hoveround and will be quite useless in this regard.

Blogger LSWCHP June 25, 2018 7:56 AM  

It would be...interesting, and not at all implausible...to see a new era of Roman ascendance in the mid to late 21st Century while America declines.

Blogger Looking Glass June 25, 2018 8:04 AM  

Related, but a link to the NYSlimes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/opinion/america-white-extinction.html

This might be the first, "oh God, we ****ed up going too quickly" narrative articles.

Blogger tuberman June 25, 2018 8:05 AM  

"The cryin' beanlet hoax failed. The polls show that Trump and the Republicans are as popular as they were before. In some polls, Republicans have further closed the gap for the midterms."

These polls have picked up 4 points for R's, and since these polls are off by 8-10 points against Trump always...Red Wave. Even Utah's R's are getting less comped, but more so for Minnesota. This will allow the God Emperor to move further to the Right. Not enough, I realize, as still just a more intelligent Civic Nationalist, but certainly movement.

Italy's moves are wonderful, and will send a message everywhere. This message will effect many weak minded Americans, but will first have profound effects in Europe. Trump will talk with Italy's nationalist leader, and will praise him. Yaaa!

Blogger Bad Attitude June 25, 2018 8:26 AM  

@Gith Yankee: The news this morning was reporting that Hispanics will outnumber whites in Texas by 2025 according to Texas state demographers. The news report then went on to play sound bites of Hispanics who recently moved into Texas because of the quality of life. An Hispanic woman wanted a better life for her one-year-old beanlet and her beanlet still in the oven.

Texas is completely unrecognizable compared to what I first experienced in 1980.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 25, 2018 8:33 AM  

LSWCHP wrote:It would be...interesting, and not at all implausible...to see a new era of Roman ascendance in the mid to late 21st Century while America declines.

Funny how Rome and Babylon are major players in Revelation, and the world's only hyper-power is not. Revelation makes more sense if fUSA is a patchwork of squabbling ethnic enclaves which have expended their nukes on one another.

Blogger Jew613 June 25, 2018 8:44 AM  

Vox, I think and hope you are right about Italy. Other countries i am not so sure. So far most countries haven't been supportive of nations strongly defending their borders.

Blogger Ceerilan June 25, 2018 9:10 AM  

Some families may indeed risk coming to Europe even though they may become criminals. There are many accounts of refugee shelter workers becoming friends with immigrants, then having them badmouth their shelter worked friends as stupid, foolish, gullible, and/or slutty. It shows a fundamental disrespect of not only our generosity, but our culture. Based on this behavior, I think it likely a significant number of these immigrants to be so arrogant as to think they won't get caught.

Blogger Crew June 25, 2018 9:24 AM  

However, in Germany, the usual suspects are still at it:

What in God’s name? Rabbi, imam & pastor share rickshaw to promote tolerance in Berlin

Blogger Crew June 25, 2018 9:39 AM  

The news this morning was reporting that Hispanics will outnumber whites in Texas by 2025 according to Texas state demographers.

It is amusing that people predict things based on current trends as if nothing could change.

Blogger Pierre Truc June 25, 2018 9:51 AM  

The girl's name is Cedella Roman, a French citizen

Click here to watch the French TV news about her, which features her mother speaking at 1:54... and your questions about her origins will be answered...

tuberman wrote:"The cryin' beanlet hoax failed.

SJWs always project.

Liberals make ads targeted at liberals. They are unable to understand conservatives. Watching the TIME cover with the little girl and Trump, a liberal would think "POOR CHILD!!! Must gib someone else's money!!!" while a conservative will think "she's not from my tribe, sucks to be her but who cares."

Blogger Pierre Truc June 25, 2018 9:52 AM  

Correction: the mother is at 1:44 into the video.

Blogger Looking Glass June 25, 2018 10:00 AM  

Crew wrote:The news this morning was reporting that Hispanics will outnumber whites in Texas by 2025 according to Texas state demographers.

It is amusing that people predict things based on current trends as if nothing could change.


It's amusing, as well, when people don't realize it's also propaganda. One of the most insightful comments I've come across around here was when someone questioned the global demographics calculations. Any time a country has decided to modernize their census, they almost always come up 10-20% below expectations.

The Media lies about everything else. It's all lies. Why would Demographics, an area utterly converged, not also be converge to hide information?

As for the TX story, what happens when the 10% that are illegals gets removed? If there's ~25 million Illegals in the USA, what happens when 8% of the population is politely removed?

Blogger Monotonous Languor June 25, 2018 10:36 AM  

God damn it, Hitler was a globalist, Stalin was a globalist, even miserable Napolean was a fucking globalist ! If Hitler had really been a nationalist, he would have kept his damn Wehrmacht at home inside Germany's borders ! This globalist shibboleth crap about nationalism being the font of all evil is a completely illogical strawman meant solely to pull the wool over the masses of useful idiots, so that the globalists can waltz in and accrue even more power and more wealth and more control than they have already. This is divide-and-conquer. This is colonization on a worldwide scale. Hello ! Is anybody awake out there ? People need to open their eyes and come to their fucking senses already ! True nationalism means staying within your own borders while respecting the borders of everyone else. The damn globalists are misrepresenting the history of past globalists to pretend that they now need even more globalism. And the leftists for their own miserable destructive purposes are so filled with hate that they eagerly go along with the humongous lies. God Damn All of Them Forever and Ever Amen.

Blogger Crew June 25, 2018 10:43 AM  

It's amusing, as well, when people don't realize it's also propaganda.

Yes. Their main intent is to demoralize whites.

Blogger Brett baker June 25, 2018 10:50 AM  

Not really.

Blogger AaMcavoy June 25, 2018 11:11 AM  

GithYankee wrote:225 million heavily armed whites should not be discounted too easily.

Really, we need to start studying US geography and find our natural borders for what is defensible and what is not. The Rockies are a major barrier but of course the Mexicans are on either side of it.

The Mississippi and Ohio are other natural divides. The wide open plains states are the most frightening. We need their farmland, but they seem impossible to defend against superior numbers.

All these equatorial gentlemen we dismiss so lightly will be armed with the latest Israeli technology. They completely control California, and large swaths of Texas. They have essentially rolled back the Louisiana Purchase.

That's just now, before fighting starts, and we have very few military age young men. The vietnam-era boomers have plenty of guns, but are only able to ambulate via hoveround and will be quite useless in this regard.


I'd much rather kick everyone else out... but if we have to pick an area to defend, we should take the best part. From the Great Lakes down to the Gulf is the largest area of arable land, with the best network of navigable waterways, connected to good ports that (if we keep Florida) don't have any choke points that prevent our access to deep blue ocean. New Orleans is a city we need, because of how many rivers that flow into it from the food-growing areas. Then we need Florida, so we can't be boxed into the Gulf, like Russia is boxed out of the North Atlantic. The Rockies are a barrier Russia would be envious of. Not sure of the Northeast.

Blogger Looking Glass June 25, 2018 11:26 AM  

@40 AaMcavoy

From Ohio Valley west to the Rockies, then down the Mississippi to the Gulf. Control that region, control the world. A 6 month shut down of Gulf Shipping would cause most of the governments in the world to collapse from food riots.

Part of the point of the demoralization campaigns is to make sure Americans don't understand that they functionally control much of the world by the nature of simply being productive. And they're productive because they're Christian & Caucasian. That's why they attack anyone that's truly productive.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas June 25, 2018 11:28 AM  

It took Trump taking to the globalist narrative and the EU leaders like a battering ram for 2+ years for more nationalist leaders to get elected.

He helped "legitimize" strongmen like Duterte on the international stage and gave breathing room to leaders like Orban.

Why do you think Duterte was singing karaoke love songs to Trump during his visit? He was predicting the CIA would have him assassinated just a year earlier.

A smaller country with less obligations like Italy will always be capable of pivoting more quickly than the US global empire, but America's pivot is the bigger and more important one. And if Q is even remotely legitimate, it's just getting started.

Blogger Paul M June 25, 2018 12:50 PM  

> @10 And not sinking their ships, but selling them for scraps

Ground them on the African coastline, dynamite the hull. The locals will take care of the rest.

Blogger Ceerilan June 25, 2018 2:25 PM  

What I don't understand is why the Italians don't imprison, try, and execute the NGO crews for human trafficking and attempted genocide. After all, that's exactly what they are doing. All this lack of capital punishment is really allowing criminals to not feel the results of their actions.

Blogger kurt9 June 25, 2018 5:07 PM  

More on Italy from Peter Zeihan:

http://zeihan.com/i-think-they-get-it-now-part-cinque-italy/

Blogger kurt9 June 25, 2018 5:08 PM  

Ceerilan wrote:What I don't understand is why the Italians don't imprison, try, and execute the NGO crews for human trafficking and attempted genocide. After all, that's exactly what they are doing. All this lack of capital punishment is really allowing criminals to not feel the results of their actions.

Maybe they will. Its still early in the game, you know.

Blogger Paul Thompson June 25, 2018 7:25 PM  

The boats that really need to be stopped, belong to the Soros-funded "NGOs" that cross the Med to "Rescue" the illegals, within sight of the North African coast.

Blogger tuberman June 25, 2018 8:02 PM  

42. Nikephoros II Phokas

Yep, and some of us know all of this. Still, very worth saying as most will not say it.

Blogger DonReynolds June 25, 2018 9:55 PM  

The question that remains, and we should have the answer to that question soon enough, is whether the NGO ships and boats that are smuggling human cargo into Italy will defy or ignore challenges by the Italian Coast Guard.

One a shot is fired across their bow, will they risk passengers and crew alike and continue to press on to one of the Italian ports with their illegal cargo, or will they stop for inspection or put about for Libya? I expect them to try to force the issue, calling what may or may not be a bluff by the Italian Coast Guard. They are fanatics and their game is at stake.

Send them to Davie Jones Locker....else loose all credibility and surrender to the invader.

Blogger Paul Thompson June 25, 2018 9:58 PM  

Simple. Stop the boats on their way South, BEFORE they "rescue" the invaders - I mean "refugees".

Blogger MortemTyrannus June 25, 2018 10:03 PM  

They should sink any immigrant vessel within territorial waters on sight. Buy some drones, live stream it on pay per view. Blowing up the vessels pays for the on land clean-up.

Blogger Paul Thompson June 25, 2018 10:12 PM  

Given the poor, unseaworthy quality/state-of-repair that most of these "invasion" craft are in, the vast majority would sink long before they reached the Northern shores of the Mediterranian, taking their cargoes with them (no lifejackets are issued by the people-smugglers). They only succeed in completing the journey, thanks to the "rescue' efforts of the NGOs. Stop the NGOs from "rescuing" the invaders and the problem largely solves itself. Drones, operating in a declared "free-fire" (exclusion) zone takes care of the few that do make it.

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 25, 2018 11:06 PM  

Seize them
Sink them
Then hear the lamentations of the leftists

Blogger Jack Amok June 26, 2018 1:36 AM  

Simple. Stop the boats on their way South, BEFORE they "rescue" the invaders - I mean "refugees".

That would probably be the easiest, PR wise. Board and seize them when they make it clear they are about to engage in human trafficking (but before they can pick up their traffic), take the crews off, tow the boats to some place divers would like a new artificial reef, and sink them.

Throw the crews in jail and charge the owners with felonies.

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