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Thursday, June 28, 2018

The Asian century

Myanmar is aggressively dealing with the problem of its Muslim invasion by repatriating the invaders. The US and the EU are trying to simultaneously pretend they don't have problems of their own while condemning Myanmar for solving theirs. History suggests that the Western posturing will not merely prove irrelevant, but foolish and hypocritical to boot.
In the early hours of Aug. 25, groups of Rohingya, led or mobilized by the militant group ARSA, launched attacks on 30 police posts and an army base. The attacks killed 10 police, one soldier and one immigration officer, said Suu Kyi’s office in a statement the same day.

In Myin Hlut, a collection of villages on Maungdaw’s coast, a Rohingya mob attacked a police post with sticks, stones, arrows and Molotov cocktails, said a police officer who repelled the attack with nine other officers. He asked Reuters to withhold his name.

Two police were killed and one injured while repelling the mob, said the officer. “When they tried to break the gate, we started shooting them,” he said. “They dragged away the men who were hit.”

ARSA claimed responsibility on its Twitter account on Aug. 25 for multiple attacks, without mentioning Myin Hlut. The Myanmar government and Amnesty International said ARSA was behind the killing of dozens of Hindu residents from another remote Rakhine village. ARSA denied this. The group did not respond to questions from Reuters....

Sept. 5 was the day Myanmar’s military campaign in Rakhine officially ended, Aung San Suu Kyi said in a speech two weeks later. Yet arson attacks on Rohingya villages continued for weeks, satellite images show. During that period Reuters reporters in Bangladesh saw smoke rising daily from the Myanmar side of the border.

According to one witness – the police officer who survived the attack on his base in Myin Hlut – the 33rd and 99th were among those responsible. After the attack, the police officer told Reuters, he was ordered to join soldiers from the 33rd and 99th on “clearance operations” in now-deserted Rohingya villages. Part of his account was reported by Reuters in February.

Each operation involved five to seven police and at least 20 soldiers, he said. Police surrounded the Rohingya houses while soldiers searched and then set them alight. The houses had leaf roofs and bamboo walls, and burned easily. “There was no need to use fuel,” he said. The officer said the houses were burned “mainly for security reasons,” to stop the Rohingya from returning and launching fresh attacks.

The military has denied burning houses in Rakhine and says Rohingya militants set the homes alight. The police officer described how the 33rd and 99th used arson routinely and systematically. “We’d go to a village and burn it down,” he said. “The next day we’d go to another village. And in the evening we’d go to another village.”
The Myanmar government has clearly learned its lesson well from the EU governments. If someone says something happened, like rapes in Sweden or murders in Germany, simply deny it and don't include it in the official statistics. Then, obviously, it never happened.

The Asian nations face challenges, but their primary advantage is straightforward. They are still nation-states. The demographically shattered states of the West are going to be increasingly occupied with internal division, until they either break apart or the indentity-group struggles for power are resolved in one way or another.

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42 Comments:

Blogger Ceerilan June 28, 2018 12:45 PM  

Sooner or later, the west will figure out that maintaining it's national identities isn't racism, it's survival.

Blogger Levendis June 28, 2018 12:58 PM  

Honestly I'm surprised it took the Burmese almost a century to route the caliphatists from their midst. You think they would have had enough after the first wave of jihad. Good on them.

I'm also surprised the lame stream media aren't invigorating their Rohingya apologia. Sad Conchita in a detention facility wins out in the Oppression Olympics.

Blogger kurt9 June 28, 2018 12:59 PM  

There is a much deeper lesson in this. The values of the liberal-left require that the West, particularly the U.S., remains the global hegemon. If not, and China then becomes the global hegemon or, much more likely, the world fragments politically and there is no hegemon, then "Western" values will no longer be seen by the rest of the world as a global standard. Everyone will do whatever they want, which is likely to result in a world that is far less hospitable to those LGBT SJW types and their fellow travelers. This is a case where the liberal left types should be careful for what they wish for, because they might actually get it.

The ideal of tribe-less multi-culti societies where everyone lives in kubaya with each other is a recent Western one. It is not the default for the rest of the world.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 28, 2018 1:02 PM  

If someone says something happened, like rapes in Sweden or murders in Germany, simply deny it and don't include it in the official statistics. Then, obviously, it never happened.

Levendis wrote:Sad Conchita in a detention facility wins out in the Oppression Olympics.

The lesson from all this is that what isn't photographed doesn't matter, so keep the press out and do what must be done.

Blogger Miguel June 28, 2018 1:06 PM  

How long until the Holocaust is invoked?

Blogger Doug Cranmer June 28, 2018 1:07 PM  

Check out Canada.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 28, 2018 1:09 PM  

@1

Survival is Raycisss!!!

Civilization is Raycisss!!!

Reality is Raycisss!!!

It’s all the same really; if your basic approach to life is based on lies then sooner or later reality is going to fuck you up.

Blogger Levendis June 28, 2018 1:09 PM  

It has been.

https://www.ushmm.org/confront-genocide/cases/burma/introduction/the-plight-of-the-rohingya

I think the narrative lost much of the wind in its sails because the Rohingya are such a clear existential threat to Myanmar. Not even the cucks I know wholly fell for it.

Blogger pyrrhus June 28, 2018 1:10 PM  

It isn't just the military in Burma...The Rohinga have also attacked Buddhist villages, and there have been pictures of armed Buddhist monks saying that they shoot Muzzies on sight...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 28, 2018 1:11 PM  

From the article:
The government of Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi said in a statement at the time that the deployment would bring “peace, stability and security.” But the influx of heavily armed combat troops with a long history of alleged human rights abuses had the opposite effect: It stoked fear and tension across a volatile region, according to Rohingya villagers.
They did bring peace, stability and security. By kicking out the Muslim invaders.

Blogger Shimshon June 28, 2018 1:11 PM  

Myanmar can create their own spin on InfoGalactic without having someone parked on the page. Is that feature set up yet?

Blogger pyrrhus June 28, 2018 1:13 PM  

Now the fundamentalist muslim nation of Bangladesh is potentially getting stuck with the Rohingya refugees, and so far, BD wants no part of their fellow muslims.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 28, 2018 1:14 PM  

Levendis wrote:I think the narrative lost much of the wind in its sails because the Rohingya are such a clear existential threat to Myanmar.
Also because the Rohingya are such nasty pieces of work. Any time you see them quoted for more than 5 words, it's obvious they're trying to play you.

Blogger Zwiebel June 28, 2018 1:41 PM  

I stopped reading Walter Russell Mead when he started kvetching about the hardship of the poor Rohingya. People who defend Muslims are people that never had to live with them.

Blogger Andrea Ostrov Letania June 28, 2018 1:46 PM  

Burmese are still having kids.

Koreans and Japanese are not having kids and now inviting mass invasion and replacement.

Highest IQ Asian nations are dying.

Blogger ZhukovG June 28, 2018 2:14 PM  

@Andrea Ostrov Letania: Korea and Japan will be fine. Modern, high tech societies do not need the birthrates that 3rd world countries like Myanmar need.

In fact both Korea and Japan are probably a little too crowded right now.

Blogger Theophilus Chilton June 28, 2018 2:27 PM  

The fact that a Muslim terrorist organisation can openly claim responsibility for a violent act and not be banned by Twitter while people who point out Muslims raping thousands of British girls *do* is proof of the Western pathology.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 28, 2018 2:33 PM  

@Snidely
It would indeed be ironic if Suu Kyi legitimately earned her Peace Prize long after actually getting it.

@pyrrhus
Bangladesh is by far the best for for the Rohingya. And ironically enough, even though it's poor, its huge population would make the Rohingya easier to absorb, because it would be a small population for them relatively speaking.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 28, 2018 2:41 PM  

@kurt9
Trump and the Americans who elected him have rejected neoliberalism already, and are in no mood to re-adopt it. If the U.S. remains hegemonic, and it could only possibly do so IF it's not lost to the Democrats, it won't ever be the guarantor of neoliberalism ever again. The U.S.'s remaining neoliberals (cosmopolitans, immigrants, minorities, and feral women) would definitely drive it into the ground if they ever took charge.

The neoliberal world order is deader than a door nail, no matter which way you look at it.

Blogger Jew613 June 28, 2018 2:57 PM  

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Blogger Long Live The West June 28, 2018 2:57 PM  

@VFM

Dead in the sense that they won't be able to take America over peacefully and quietly sure.

But they aren't 'dead' until they've been driven out of our land.

Step one to solving a problem is recognizing it exists. That's done, generally speaking. (Some people still aren't able to come to grips with reality)

Step two is to fix it. (See Trump) Step two is full of variables. The battle isn't over until the war is won.

Step three is to kick back and watch our kids and grandkids grow in the true Christian America.

Blogger Jew613 June 28, 2018 2:58 PM  

Aung San acted correctly and wisely to protect her nation. What she had that is lacking in the West is the clergy of Myanmar, the Buddhist Monks, are nationalistic and gave her the moral authority to act with strength. Frontline had a whole documentary about the plight of the "poor" rohiynga. It was a supposed to be a piece of Globalist pro-Muslim propaganda invoking the killing fields of Cambodia but you cant help rooting for the Burmese. Myanmar's Killing Fields.

Blogger J.M. June 28, 2018 3:50 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:@Andrea Ostrov Letania: Korea and Japan will be fine. Modern, high tech societies do not need the birthrates that 3rd world countries like Myanmar need.

In fact both Korea and Japan are probably a little too crowded right now.


Yes, because the best thing that can happen to a country is to have more elder people than children and teenagers. After those young ones aren't needed.../sarcasm

No, I'm not advocating immigration to "solve" those problems but the fact that such a development sans a plague or war is seen as normal is troubling in itself. And no, those Japanese and Koreans are not having children because their lands are too crowded. Australia isn't too crowded and they too stopped having babies a long time ago.

Blogger VD June 28, 2018 3:54 PM  

Bangladesh is by far the best for for the Rohingya. And ironically enough, even though it's poor, its huge population would make the Rohingya easier to absorb, because it would be a small population for them relatively speaking.

And Bangladesh needs the immigrants! Immigrants use less welfare, commit less crime, and boost the economy!

Blogger James Dixon June 28, 2018 4:18 PM  

> And no, those Japanese and Koreans are not having children because their lands are too crowded. Australia isn't too crowded and they too stopped having babies a long time ago.

That's a problem that's easily solved. Simply start paying women to have kids. It's been demonstrated to work quite well.

Blogger Mark Stoval June 28, 2018 4:21 PM  

Apologies in advance if this is the wrong thread for this, but I thought this quote was a good one:

"In multiracial societies, democracy is a skins game. But in multiracial societies, socialism is also a skins game. As the country fills up with Sun People, this is the political future. It's going to get harder and harder for quisling whites and the 2% to pretend there will be a place for them when the numbers of Latin Americans, Africans, and Arabs reach critical mass.

"Three cheers for the invaders in New York's 14th district. Sow, water, and fertilize the seeds of the white left's budding cognitive dissonance. The fate of the West depends on it."


http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2018/06/ocasios-special-occasion.html

My only quibble would be that recent news out of Europe indicates that the West might survive while the USA is destroyed.

If the USA were to split apart, we could see several white nations (or tribes) re-build to a level that we though was going to happen by now back in the 70s. At the rate we are going, the USA will not even be as functional as a Latin American country.

Blogger RA June 28, 2018 4:37 PM  

VD, your sarcasm is detected and seconded.

I am vaguely recalling reading somewhere that the Rohingya tribes were actually pushed out of what is now Bangladesh because they didn't get along with the other tribes there, and that's how they are in Myanmar today. Can't remember where I read this, don't remember the timeframe around the expulsion, but I think this report has credence because the Bangladeshi don't want them back even though they are supposedly fellow Muslims. Think they know something we don't?

Over in Thailand, the Thai will tolerate ethnic Burmese and Lao to some small extent as long as they behave and shut up about their crap treatment, it helps that these foreigners worship Buddha as the Thai do, but the Thai have no such tolerance for the Rohingya.

Speaking of Thailand, they have their own problems with Muslims in three of the southernmost provinces, the ones on the border with Malaysia. These provinces were taken by the Thai in 1902 when they fought a brief war with British Malaya. In recent decades, the Muslims in those provinces have acted up and the Thai have had to send in their army to deal with it. So the Thai government talk to their counterparts in Malaysia now and then. So get this, it was rumored that the Thai offered the provinces back to Malaysia and the Malaysian government refused. Think that might be because Malaysia already has a lot of problems with undocumented migrants and they weren't in the mood for taking on more problems. Or they knew the nature of the Muslim tribes in those provinces and wanted no part of them. No reason is cited for this that I found. So it continues to be a Thai problem area. And one wonders why the Thai have such a negative attitude about the Rohingya washing up on their shores.

Blogger Ledford Ledford June 28, 2018 4:41 PM  

VD wrote:Bangladesh is by far the best for for the Rohingya. And ironically enough, even though it's poor, its huge population would make the Rohingya easier to absorb, because it would be a small population for them relatively speaking.

And Bangladesh needs the immigrants! Immigrants use less welfare, commit less crime, and boost the economy!


Won't happen. There will be a bidding war among greedy rich countries for the Rohingya. Switzerland or Kuwait will win the right to settle them, and become the next superpower.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 28, 2018 4:55 PM  

" Frontline had a whole documentary about the plight of the "poor" rohiynga. It was a supposed to be a piece of Globalist pro-Muslim propaganda invoking the killing fields of Cambodia but you cant help rooting for the Burmese"

@Jew613
The Rohingya are good boiz who dindu nuffins!

Blogger kurt9 June 28, 2018 5:25 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:@kurt9

Trump and the Americans who elected him have rejected neoliberalism already, and are in no mood to re-adopt it. If the U.S. remains hegemonic, and it could only possibly do so IF it's not lost to the Democrats, it won't ever be the guarantor of neoliberalism ever again. The U.S.'s remaining neoliberals (cosmopolitans, immigrants, minorities, and feral women) would definitely drive it into the ground if they ever took charge.

The neoliberal world order is deader than a door nail, no matter which way you look at it.


Yes, indeed, and this is the inherent quandary for the PC liberals. Their worldview requires that the West remains dominant as the hegemon while, at the same time, that the values that allowed for such dominance be destroyed as soon as possible since they are based on "CIS white patriarchy" or some other catch words they can conger up. They are dependent on the very thing that they hate. They do not realize that once what they hate is gone, there will be nothing out there in the world to defend their beliefs.

I find this quandary quite amusing.

Blogger widlast washere June 28, 2018 5:42 PM  

The modern world is quickly becoming STUPID WRIT LARGE.
Those who have no clue as to how to maintain a civilization demand that they control every aspect of it.

Things are going to start going very wrong in the near future.

Blogger Jack June 28, 2018 7:13 PM  

Ten years ago the Burmese were the bad guys in the 4th Rambo film, ostensibly because they were/are persecuting Christians in their country. I don't know to what extent that is true or whether it's just propaganda. It's noteworthy that the previous Rambo film had the hero fighting alongside the Taliban - or as they were known then, the Mujahideen - against those big bad Russians. Hollywood is a psyop.

Blogger thimscool June 28, 2018 9:20 PM  

What do you propose for the Kurds, so that they can live as a nation, at peace with their neighbors?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 28, 2018 10:32 PM  

thimscool wrote:What do you propose for the Kurds, so that they can live as a nation, at peace with their neighbors?
What on Earth makes you think that is a realistic possibility anywhere in the ME or west-Central Asia?
It's only happened under the hump of extravagantly violent tyrants.

Blogger thimscool June 29, 2018 12:20 AM  

Vox recently wrote that "a collection of homogeneous nations living in relative peace would be a worthy objective."

Over the years, he has repeatedly "called his shot" regarding the innate instability of heterogeneous societies, and suggested that "voluntary" segregation would be preferable to the type of conflagration he's mentioning in this post.

What I'm asking is whether it is even remotely likely that currently heterogeneous states could resolve matters and separate in peace.

Blogger Opiter June 29, 2018 1:39 AM  

Vox, doesn't the ARSA identify as a secular unit and not an Islamic one, and if so, wouldn't this have nothing to do with Islam and more with matters of an ethnic nature, rather than religious?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 29, 2018 2:07 AM  

@OPiter,
Why would that matter. They are ethnically, culturally, racially and religiously distinct, and don't belong in Myanmar.

Blogger Opiter June 29, 2018 2:30 AM  

@Snidely This is a discussion with a friend that I ask this, it was brought up that the Rakhine State preceded modern Myanmar, so these people were here first. I'm in agreement with Vox, I'm trying to articulate how this relates to it and am having trouble.

Blogger Luqman June 29, 2018 6:50 AM  

These people are not invaders. Strict homogenous nationalism is as much an aberration as open borders. They don't belong in Myanmar society, but they have never been a part of it anyway. It can't be right to condemn them simply because they are muslims, or because the left use their story to push their narratives.

Blogger Jew613 June 29, 2018 8:16 AM  

Sure it can.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 29, 2018 11:27 AM  

They are indeed invaders. The entered the country during the period of British dominance. The fact that they've been there 3 generations doesn't make them not invaders.
As far as the "modern Myanmar State", the Burmese nation pre-exists that by far longer than Rakhine.

Luqman wrote:It can't be right to condemn them simply because they are muslims, or because the left use their story to push their narratives.
Why not? Islam is Evil.
Islam is not compatible with the native society. One or the other must dominate and exclude the other. Muslims know this, Buddhists know this, why don't you?

Blogger Avalanche June 29, 2018 7:29 PM  

@41 "Islam is not compatible with the native society."

Islam is not compatible with ANY society.

FIFY.

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