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Thursday, June 14, 2018

The Swamp still protecting itself

Does Inspector General Michael Horowitz think he's been employed as a defense attorney or something?
A bombshell report released Thursday by the Justice Department's inspector general includes new evidence that an FBI agent and an agency lawyer who were having an affair in 2016 were also plotting to keep President Donald Trump from winning the election.

In an email on August 8, 2016, Special Agent Peter Strzok reassured Page that she needn't worry about Trump winning the White House.

Trump is 'not ever going to become president, right? Right?!' Page texted Strzok. 

'No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it,' he responded.

Inspector General Michael Horowitz wrote that '[s]everal FBI employees who played critical roles in the investigation sent political messages,' but concluded that 'the conduct by these employees cast a cloud over the entire FBI investigation.'

He declared that the IG's office 'did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected the specific investigative actions we reviewed.'

The 500-page report also found that then-FBI Director James Comey 'deviated' from the standard practices of his agency when dealing with the probe into Hillary Clinton's classified emails.

But IG Michael Horowitz emphasized that Comey was more knuckleheaded than malicious.

'While we did not find that these decisions were the result of political bias on Comey's part, we nevertheless concluded that by departing so clearly and dramatically from FBI and department norms, the decisions negatively impacted the perception of the FBI and the department as fair administrators of justice,' the report reads.
I'm beginning to notice a certain pattern to the Swamp's ability to excuse itself from any and all culpability for criminal activity. Even when a crime has been committed, it's excused because the perpetrator didn't mean to commit it, they're just one of a bunch of knuckleheads who mean well and are good boys and are gwan to go to college.

It's remarkable how this so-called investigator sounds like a old black community activist lamenting how a few gang-banging knuckleheads ruin it for everyone.

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141 Comments:

Blogger Nostromo June 14, 2018 2:18 PM  

Nothing to see here. Move along... Move along...

Blogger Al K. Annossow June 14, 2018 2:24 PM  

It's like the news media. Just because they have demonstrable biases doesn't mean that those biases influence what stories they report or how they report them. Right? And there's nothing wrong with cops or judges sleeping with defendants. They're professionals.

Blogger Nate June 14, 2018 2:26 PM  

oh good... so I guess from now on "I didn't mean to break the law" will be a perfectly legitimate excuse when dealing with the IRS...

Blogger SciVo June 14, 2018 2:28 PM  

Immunity from consequences = institutional rot. You get more of what you incentivize, and you don't get less of what you fail to disincentivize. Failure to throw the book at these "knuckleheads" will ultimately result in the People burning down the entire rotten edifice as worse than worthless and beyond repair.

Blogger Mr Darcy June 14, 2018 2:28 PM  

No surprises here. Exactly what we expected. But the clock is ticking ...

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) June 14, 2018 2:30 PM  

Well, he's the same guy that did the OIG report on fast and furious

Blogger Nate June 14, 2018 2:32 PM  

so... can we all just admit that Q is, was, and always will be, completely full of crap?

Blogger Warunicorn June 14, 2018 2:37 PM  

It's like I'm reading the end of a nation, where only the elites get away with anything.

@SciVo: +1

Blogger Warunicorn June 14, 2018 2:45 PM  

"Gosh, shucks, those darn knuckleheaded kids, always gettin' into trouble! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!"

There's so much malice going on here and it just isn't from the actors trying to derail Trump.

Blogger RB June 14, 2018 2:45 PM  

I've received harsher treatment and penalties from the Tollway Authority. Is it scientifically possible to cut the air supply to D.C.?

Blogger Daniel Bendele June 14, 2018 2:51 PM  

The corruption is so horrendous. I really hope I live to see the day when we take our country back.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 14, 2018 2:52 PM  

RB wrote:Is it scientifically possible to cut the air supply to D.C.?

Given what we now know about Science!, it could only be done once, because Science! usually isn't repeatable.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 2:57 PM  

There's a few things going on. First is that the top line and the pages below are looking to be at odds with each other. (Seen this trick before in the way the Swamp tries to defend itself. MSM will only report the best take, from their perspective.) The second issue is that this only covers the Hillary Email Investigation. It technically has nothing to do with Trump. (That'll come later.)

There's definite Swamp Covering, but there's also tons of grounds for criminal investigations already cropping up within the document. It's over 500 pages, so it's going to take time to digest it further. What we do know, for absolutely certain, is they tanked the Hillary investigations from the beginning.

Blogger RB June 14, 2018 3:00 PM  

@12

Right now once would be better than a dream come true. I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

Blogger James Dixon June 14, 2018 3:07 PM  

> Even when a crime has been committed, it's excused because the perpetrator didn't mean to commit it,

Oh, the report has a at least a few points to make. Just for starters: "Under these circumstances, we did not have confidence that Strzok’s decision to prioritize the Russia investigation over following up on the Midyear-related investigative lead discovered on the Weiner laptop was free from bias."

Even WaPo is crying the blues over it and Fox is saying "the inspector general has referred five employees for investigation into whether the messages violated the FBI’s Offense Codes and Penalty Guidelines."

Blogger Mister Excitement June 14, 2018 3:08 PM  

"Inspector General Michael Horowitz "

It's gotten to the point that if somebody doesn't have an expressly Anglo last name, I immediately don't trust them.

If somebody has a Jewish sounding last name, not only do I immediately not trust them, but I already know their corrupt.

Blogger S1AL June 14, 2018 3:28 PM  

My understanding, from what I read about Horowitz when his name first came up months ago, is that he's a rulebook hardliner. So if he says that Comey was inept but not malicious, he means exactly that in the legal sense.

Blogger freddie_mac June 14, 2018 3:34 PM  

Found the answer to all of our problems in another thread

@TM Lutas
Come up with an investigatory procedure to investigate the police and publicly do it for each jurisdiction to test their soundness.

This worked so well for the Brits, of course it will work here. Juvenal was a crank; everyone knows that the watchmen are honest and true -- they tell us that every day! And we can believe them, because they'd never act against the best interests of our nation. /s

Blogger freddie_mac June 14, 2018 3:37 PM  

@10 RB
Is it scientifically possible to cut the air supply to D.C.?

Actually, I was thinking of diverting the Potomac into the heart of the swamp.

Blogger James Dixon June 14, 2018 3:39 PM  

> So if he says that Comey was inept but not malicious, he means exactly that in the legal sense.

Ineptness that results in the breaking of FBI procedures is still grounds for firing.

Blogger A rebel without a General June 14, 2018 3:40 PM  

Vox remember when the swamp that Hillary's server wasn't malicious just knuckle headed.

Blogger Ledford Ledford June 14, 2018 3:40 PM  

Notice how legacy media always refer to bureaucrats of whatever stripe as the "hard-working men and women of the Federal Bureau Service Agency?" A friend of mine who learned to profitably navigate the swamp called his job "the gravy train with biscuit wheels."

The good news is these are not iron men ready to die for the permanent government. Resistance will crumble when faced with any serious discomfort.

Blogger GP June 14, 2018 3:50 PM  

Anyone who claims stupidity is sufficient explanation for malevolence is in league with the malevolent."

Blogger tublecane June 14, 2018 3:50 PM  

Here's an everyready escape route available to Deep State corruption: they're not technically politicians, and if they act in the interest of the Deep State--even if it happens to benefit someone politically--it's not technically "political." Because they're beyond all that. They're playing on an entirely different level.

What do you call it, then, if not "political bias?" How about just plain criminality?

Blogger tublecane June 14, 2018 3:54 PM  

I have been following some NeverTrump "hot takes," and surprisingly they're not going full "nothingburger." Ben Shapiro is actually acting like the report is revelatory. "Holy f*ck*ng sh*t" territory. He had no idea?

My question: was he really that obtuse, or have his masters ordered him to move a bit toward the Trump persecution side? Why? What is their play?

Blogger Hammerli280 June 14, 2018 3:56 PM  

Time for Trump and Congress to take the whip to the Department of Justice. The 4D treatment...Disarm, Disestablish, Dismiss, Disperse.

You Disarm the DOJ personnel. All of them. No Government-owned firearms whatsoever. Specifically on the grounds that DOJ has proven itself untrustworthy.

Then Disestablish. Take DOJ apart. Separate the law enforcement and prosecutorial functions.

Follow up with Dismissal. Fire all the political appointees. Retire the senior career leadership.

Finally, Disperse. Scatter the former DOJ personnel in small groups. Preferably under supervisors from the Department of Defense who have strict orders to pound subordination to authority into their heads.

There's a reason Marine Corps Drill Instructors will PT the entire recruit unit for the failing of any one of them...it encourages the others to maintain discipline. DOJ needs to be worked over, as an organization, for the same reason. With the FBI singled out for extra discipline.

And if you DO retain DOJ, I'd impose a serious budget cut. Particularly on overhead.

Blogger tublecane June 14, 2018 4:00 PM  

What does it require as a member of the Permanent Government to be referred for criminal prosecution for covering up Clinton crimes?

Serious question. What if James Comey held a gun to the head of a little girl who saw Hillary bleaching her hardrive and said, "You don't want to be testifying, do you, Sally?" Would that be enough?

Blogger pyrrhus June 14, 2018 4:01 PM  

oh good... so I guess from now on "I didn't mean to break the law" will be a perfectly legitimate excuse when dealing with the IRS...

Sure, because in American jurisprudence, "I wasn't biased", "I didn't mean it", or "Gosh officer, I didn't know about that law" have always been defenses, just not for anyone who wasn't a deep state apparatchik...e.g. Sandy Berger, General Petraeus, and Hillary Clinton. For regular people, it's just sentencing material.

Blogger pyrrhus June 14, 2018 4:03 PM  

@27 No way, he was just "protecting" the little girl....

Blogger Andrew June 14, 2018 4:10 PM  

Q says there are three IG reports:

(1)the Original, unredacted report
(2)the unredacted Rosenstein watered-down version of the IG report
(2)the redacted Rosenstein watered-down version of the IG report

And that #3 is what we'd see released. And Trump would look to declassify everything based on public outrage.

Blogger Rule of Wrist June 14, 2018 4:18 PM  

This shit is infuriating.

These people need to go to prison. ALL OF THEM. If they don't, they can go to the morgue, along with all the rest who wouldn't send them to prison.

If nothing comes from all of this, after all of this time, with all of this evidence, it's time for the citizenry to rise up and do the job the feds refuse to do, and burn all of these people.

Blogger Rabid Ratel June 14, 2018 4:19 PM  

RB wrote:Is it scientifically possible to cut the air supply to D.C.?

I have been researching firefighting systems for large electrical cabinets. Turns out CO2 is good for other things than raising global temperatures.

Blogger pyrrhus June 14, 2018 4:28 PM  

@30 I certainly hope that Q is right on this one...If these people aren't exposed and prosecuted, it's the end for any semblance of law in the FUSA...Of course, it's very possible that (((Horowitz))) is down with that...

Blogger insight June 14, 2018 4:28 PM  

"It's remarkable how this so-called investigator sounds like a old black community activist lamenting how a few gang-banging knuckleheads ruin it for everyone."

Thus why I label leftards "white niggers". Because if you are still a leftard and white in light of all the evidence of the pathology of leftardism your IQ obviously isn't near the white median.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 4:28 PM  

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1007343202356129793

"ISN'T THIS ILLEGAL?

" FBI Midyear Exam investigation successfully determined classified information was improperly stored and transmitted on Clinton’s email server, and classified information was compromised by unauthorized individuals." "

Not that we didn't know it already, but the FBI did determine Hillary broke a whole host of laws. The Sun also rises in the East, and Water is Wet. In other news.

"Lock Her Up" chants are here to stay.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir June 14, 2018 4:29 PM  

HOROWITZ, you say?

Blogger Jourdan June 14, 2018 4:30 PM  

Jeez, who could have forseen the IG was toothless and USG would cover its ass?

How could both Fox News and Rush Limbaugh have been wrong?

Usually, conservatives win all over the place when you're talking internal USG investigations.

Well, there is always the next BOMBSHELL report, memo to look forward to!

Blogger Salt June 14, 2018 4:30 PM  

Wonder what brand of perfume the original hard copy was scented with.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 4:31 PM  

Oh, and Comey was using his own Gmail account for official business when he was investigating Hillary for... using her own account for official business.

Though note the trend of everyone using a Gmail account. I get the sorry feeling the NSA is laughing their damn asses off about this.

Blogger Br'er Shaygetz June 14, 2018 4:31 PM  

I simply wont believe anything until I see cuffs and orange jumpsuits. Not that I doubt my president, but that there are not enough teeth left in the law to mean anything.

I've always taught that God dealt with His judgment at the Cross, that He allows our nation to carefully braid enough of its own rope to hang itself. I believe I hear the sound of a gallows being built for our nation even now.

Blogger Nate June 14, 2018 4:31 PM  

"Q says there are three IG reports:"

Jesus Christ...

You still believe in the toothfairy don't you?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 14, 2018 4:33 PM  

Hammerli280 wrote:The 4D treatment...Disarm, Disestablish, Dismiss, Disperse.

Drawing? Quartering? Hanging in chains? Damn it, we want blood not this namby-pamby stuff.

Seriously, there needs to be long jail sentences for everyone in those agencies who was GS-13 and above. Acquiescence is complicity.

Blogger Garuna June 14, 2018 4:36 PM  

I have been following some NeverTrump "hot takes," and surprisingly they're not going full "nothingburger." Ben Shapiro is actually acting like the report is revelatory. "Holy f*ck*ng sh*t" territory. He had no idea?

My question: was he really that obtuse, or have his masters ordered him to move a bit toward the Trump persecution side? Why? What is their play?


MAGA candidates have recently been destroying cuckservatives in the primaries. Used to be that MAGA candidates would win MAGA regions and the cuckservatives would win cuckservative regions. But Trump success has made it so that cuckservative regions now also vote for MAGA candidates. The Republican power struggle is over. Trumpism is the Republican Party now.

The NeverTrump schtick was always built on the hopes that Trump would fail and they would regain control of the Republican Party. Since the reverse has happened, these worms are now just trying to save their careers long-term.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 4:39 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Hammerli280 wrote:The 4D treatment...Disarm, Disestablish, Dismiss, Disperse.

Drawing? Quartering? Hanging in chains? Damn it, we want blood not this namby-pamby stuff.

Seriously, there needs to be long jail sentences for everyone in those agencies who was GS-13 and above. Acquiescence is complicity.


Spears, rope and some assembly is the proper response. Combetta literally emailed someone that there was a coverup operation.

https://twitter.com/xBenJamminx/status/1007359542345256960

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 14, 2018 4:40 PM  

Sundance has some advice for reading the report:

Important note. Read, but don’t focus on, the “executive summary” or “conclusions”; those two sections were written by political administrators in FBI and DOJ leadership. Focus on the substance of the documented facts within the IG report. You’ll note the specific facts don’t support the “summary/conclusion”.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/14/here-it-is-inspector-general-report-on-fbi-and-doj-conduct-during-clinton-investigation-full-568-page-pdf/#more-150578

Blogger OneWingedShark June 14, 2018 4:40 PM  

Edward Fish via GAB:"Weiner Had Everything.
Important. Weiner had everything AND THEY SAT ON IT.

“On September 28, during a secure video teleconference (SVTC), Sweeney reported that Weiner investigation agents had discovered 141,000 emails on Weiner’s laptop that were potentially relevant to the Midyear investigation.”"

Interesting. Things are going to get shaken up, one way or another.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 14, 2018 4:42 PM  

@26

" With the FBI singled out for extra discipline."

Both the FBI and the IRS are in serious need of Special High Intensity Training.

Blogger Salt June 14, 2018 4:44 PM  

You’ll note the specific facts don’t support the “summary/conclusion”.

It's the summary conclusions which shall guide though. The Swamp is trying to hold on.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 14, 2018 4:44 PM  

"This section of the IG report (420-421) is remarkable. It calls the Strzok/Page texts "not only indicative of a biased state of mind but, even more seriously, implies a willingness to take official action to impact the presidential candidate's electoral prospects"

from Mark Meadows (R-NC)

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1007330850483179520

Don't write off the IG report just yet.

Blogger insight June 14, 2018 4:46 PM  

Proverbs 25:5

Blogger Mark Stoval June 14, 2018 4:47 PM  

Nate wrote:"Q says there are three IG reports:"

Jesus Christ...

You still believe in the toothfairy don't you?


Nate, I have a question or 3 for you.

I agree with your skepticism, and would ask you: "is there any chance that ANY of the deep state bad guys go to jail?" Any at all?

If you say yes, then I would ask will I see it before I die? (heart doc says maybe another 5 years)

And then ... and then ... if you say I will see someone, anyone go to jail: will any of the normies in the public care?

Thanks in advance.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 14, 2018 4:48 PM  

@32

"I have been researching firefighting systems for large electrical cabinets. Turns out CO2 is good for other things than raising global temperatures."

CO2 doesn't raise temperatures, water vapor does. CO2 does the opposite

The proxy record is clear:

Temps rise -> C02 rises -> plants thrive -> temps fall.

Blogger Nate June 14, 2018 4:48 PM  

"I agree with your skepticism, and would ask you: "is there any chance that ANY of the deep state bad guys go to jail?" Any at all? "

No. None. Ziltch.


Blogger Patrick Pham June 14, 2018 4:53 PM  

@47

Maybe these government agencies need referrals to a Chilean free-style Helicopter Skydiving course.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 14, 2018 4:58 PM  

I'm keeping faith. Already seeing a couple of Twitter accounts (Sundance and Rex Imperator) arguing that the body of this report is contradictory to the summary; that it does not match the recommendations; that the info contained therein is both devastating and incriminating.

This is a 568 page report. I debating as to whether or not to read as much of it as I can or let the internet researchers do it and provide commentaries.

Some of the things I've seen are eye opening. The missing Strzok response to Page is a bombshell.

I'm going to focus only on the facts and not treat this report as a final decision. Besides, when I got into this, I understood that I would not be stopping at this report as more were to follow (FISA, Clinton Emails, and Huber's report).

Keep the faith because you will need it to have the stamina to read the actual reports and the commentaries of such.

It's halftime and, in my opinion, people are frustrated that their lead over the opposing team is not large enough.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 5:03 PM  

AAG Huber is the one in charge of all criminal sides of this. The OIG doesn't have the ability to prosecute anyone, just make recommendations.

Blogger Jourdan June 14, 2018 5:03 PM  

If Charlie Brown ever gets tired of holding the football, Lucy has plenty of replacement candidates here to choose from.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 14, 2018 5:03 PM  

Probably the latest rage from Marcronville, Isle de France: Cochon. I understand it was a great hit a the Bilderberg confab - a really natural fragrance for the participants.

Looking Glass wrote:

"ISN'T THIS ILLEGAL?"

"FBI Midyear Exam investigation successfully determined classified information was improperly stored and transmitted on Clinton’s email server, and classified information was compromised by unauthorized individuals."

Not that we didn't know it already, but the FBI did determine Hillary broke a whole host of laws. The Sun also rises in the East, and Water is Wet. In other news.

"Lock Her Up" chants are here to stay.


To paraphrase the late (((Leona Helmsley))), laws are only for little people (just like taxes). If one's in the 'outfit', they needn't worry much about them. If you're a government badge-gang goonda, you even have license to commit first-degree murder (FBI agent Lon Horiuchi walks free today). Lizard Queen is walking free, as is Nazi war-criminal (((Soros))), as is Jeffrey Epstein of Pleasure Island fame for that matter. Putting swamp-creatures in charge with investigating the swamp is no doubt part of some deep 666-D chess grand strateegery, or so we've been told. Oh, and among other "victories", we have Israel giving over 40K Africans expelled into waiting arms of EUSSR (Netanyahu reverses again), Repukes in Congress passing Amnesty, with gun-control under way. Lots of premature declarations of victory from MAGA folks, who like to spin all this bullshit as 'making the landing softer for the normies'. MPAI.

Blogger James Dixon June 14, 2018 5:10 PM  

> "is there any chance that ANY of the deep state bad guys go to jail?" Any at all?

For these actions? No.

Now, if the trafficking and pedophilia investigations lead to them, that's another matter. And Sessions has been diligent on those.

Blogger Nate June 14, 2018 5:10 PM  

"If Charlie Brown ever gets tired of holding the football, Lucy has plenty of replacement candidates here to choose from."

its like they learned nothing from Benghazi.

Blogger Garuna June 14, 2018 5:20 PM  

Fuckin hell. The FBI is a bunch of whiny SJW cucks who unironically say "Drumpf". Embarrassing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfrdf_pWAAAAVZl.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfra0_1XcAENSyu.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfrifVPXUAABj1U.jpg

Blogger Garuna June 14, 2018 5:23 PM  

It's shameful how the FBI let itself be subverted by SJWs like it was a Disney cartoon or Star Wars. I'm really speechless.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 14, 2018 5:25 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:
"This section of the IG report (420-421) is remarkable. It calls the Strzok/Page texts "not only indicative of a biased state of mind but, even more seriously, implies a willingness to take official action to impact the presidential candidate's electoral prospects" ....

Don't write off the IG report just yet.


That's a good example of what you were referring to about the unsupported assertions of the executive summary and conclusion. However, such juicy details mean absolutely nothing unless there are actual arrests and indictments for the crimes noted therein. This is what lies at the crux of the massive annoyance (Nate, for example) at the many cryptic hints posted by the q-anon psyop. Nothing ever happens to the really bad actors, regardless of how egregious the crime committed. They're all still floating on massive piles of money, and the one who is nominally commander in chief seems to have scant control even over the military (More ISIS support with 6 billion going to the white-helmets today; more exercises on Russia's border with Baltic states and Poland; still guarding the opium fields for big-pharma; to give some simple examples), much the less ingrained swamp-institutions like the DOJ, Dept. of State, etc. Maybe Rocketman really spilled the beans on the Body-Snatcher operation in NK and it will do much damage to them in the long-term. As VD likes to say: Time will tell.

Blogger Garuna June 14, 2018 5:27 PM  

Strzok acknowledged that his text messages could be read to suggest that
he held himself responsible for Trump’s victory and viewed the Russia investigation as a way to “fix” this result by working on an investigation that could result in the impeachment of President Trump p405


https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1007367016645300225

Blogger Stilicho June 14, 2018 5:33 PM  

Malice is not an element of most crimes. Indeed, the old common law element of men's rea isn't often considered either, rather the elements of the statute in question are that need to be proved, so the relevant question is whether anything will be referred to US attorneys and whether they bring charges.

With that said, this report will be used as a shield to prevent even a referral to US Attorney. Probably a big nothing burger legally. Politically, Trump will make hay, but swamp will remain intact for now.

Q wrong again, but falling back to "Rosenstein altered IG report".

Blogger One Deplorable DT June 14, 2018 5:40 PM  

I didn't mean to rob that liquor store. I just used poor judgement when I sucker punched the clerk and grabbed the cash from the register.

I'm sorry if my actions have negatively impacted the perception others have of me. But clearly my actions were not malicious and do not warrant prosecution.


This will work, right guys? Or do I have to be a member of the FBI?

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 14, 2018 5:43 PM  

OT: This is from the American Renaissance Gab acct. (@AmRenaissance) :

"From one of our lawyers: Judge ruled that 'Twitter may be held liable for false representations that it would not censor user content.'

and

'This is the first time that a social media company's argument that it has a First Amendment right to ban users from a platform for their viewpoints has been rejected by a court.' "

"Today was our day in court against Twitter. We're still sorting out the details, but the short of it is:

We won!

We'll update our readers and supporters once we know more."

Blogger I DontTroll June 14, 2018 5:52 PM  

Today, from the sea hag: https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1007376361101582336

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 14, 2018 5:54 PM  

Gen. Kong,

I agree, indictments and prosecutions must follow. But that isn't Horowitz' job.

Blogger Garuna June 14, 2018 6:08 PM  

>nothing will happen

I think there is a good chance that something will happen. Well-connected and credible Ali Alexander says that Trump gave the Intelligence Community swamp a chance to clean up their act last year. In return, they spat on his face and told him that they were going to imprison his family, particularly Jared Kushner. So Trump decided to make an example out of them by sending a few of them to prison. McCabe may be one of the guys that gets locked up over this.

Blogger tz June 14, 2018 6:10 PM  

Swagree and Swamplify.

What few understand is that if it requires shooting holes in the dike (pun half intended), or blowing it up to drain the swamp, it will happen (Scene from Justified where he shoots a large inflatable pool comes to mind).

The Justice System needs to function, and even some excesses are tolerated as long as elites are sometimes thrown into the woodchipper even if little people are.

Hillary, Comey, Sroke, etc. stand in contrast.

Hence the chants of "Lock Her Up" - where Comey enumerated the charges but said she shouldn't be indicted. And the debate quip where Trump said "You'd be in Jail".

The report apparently has a section on the NON-investigation of the Clinton Foundation, while NY is charging the Trump Foundation. This WILL get interesting.

Rush Limbaugh said we needed to vote GOP this November to hold people accountable, but I think it will be the last chance - if the candidates are coopted, corrupted, or bribed and don't do things like appoint special prosecutors, look for vigilante justice as it will be the final alternative.

Blogger Othello June 14, 2018 6:13 PM  

“I'm beginning to notice a certain pattern to the Swamp's ability to excuse itself from any and all culpability for criminal activity. Even when a crime has been committed, it's excused because the perpetrator didn't mean to commit it,”

A violation of the law is not the same as a willful violation of the law. Inside baseball. Still, I don’t know how plausible deniability can apply to law enforcement officers who know the statute they’re supposedly not “willfully” violating.

Blogger Cetera June 14, 2018 6:16 PM  

tz wrote:Slook for vigilante justice as it will be the final alternative.



It'll be hilarious when FBI agents' homes are SWATed by /pol/.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 6:22 PM  

@71 tz

We're going to need a lot of woodchippers.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 14, 2018 6:25 PM  

Gwan bad mon.

Blogger Garuna June 14, 2018 6:32 PM  

Rush Limbaugh said we needed to vote GOP this November to hold people accountable

I'm noticing that Republicans are very energized by all this. The energy today feels similar to 2016.

Republicans were already gaining momentum with the booming economy, Korean success, and Democrats threatening gun control + impeachment. "Drain the swamp" will probably ensure Republican victory in the midterms.

Blogger DonReynolds June 14, 2018 6:33 PM  

When the cowboy rednecks got paid, they would go into town and get roaring assed drunk, shoot up the town, get in fights with the locals, make lots of noise, smash and grab, and coerce underaged girls into reckless sex. At a certain point, after enough matrons and shopkeepers complained, the town marshal would round them up and lock them in the jail. On Sunday morning, the rancher would come into town to bail them out of jail in time for church....which would be deducted from their next pay.

"It is not that they was bad boys or anything. They was just drunk and doing what cowboys do when they are in town letting off a little steam. You need to be grateful that they spend their money here. They contribute to the prosperity of this town."

Blogger tublecane June 14, 2018 6:39 PM  

Instead of begging our forgiveness and promising to start a gotterdammerung to purge the agency if necessary, the FBI director in his press conference sounds like a member of the FBI Booster Club, talking about how awesome their "brand" is.

At least he ceded some rhetorical ground. Almost no one in the mainstream is talking about breaking up the "intelligence" "community" and/or destroying the FBI. But there he is, justifying its very existence.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 6:42 PM  

@76 Garuna

We need some new phrases. "Burn the Swamp". That direction.

Blogger Nate June 14, 2018 6:51 PM  

"It's shameful how the FBI let itself be subverted by SJWs like it was a Disney cartoon or Star Wars. I'm really speechless."

think carefully. I'm asking a serious question. Name the last time the FBI actually solved a major crime they were not directly responsible for causing.

Blogger traderdoc June 14, 2018 6:52 PM  

1. An investigation into Hillary's email investigation, but no recommendation that yes, she should have been indicted.
2. The alt-right world will hear the whole summary of the IG investigation as this: Hillary Clinton and her supporters get away with it all once again.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 6:54 PM  

Nate wrote:"It's shameful how the FBI let itself be subverted by SJWs like it was a Disney cartoon or Star Wars. I'm really speechless."

think carefully. I'm asking a serious question. Name the last time the FBI actually solved a major crime they were not directly responsible for causing.


They have problems solving the ones they cause.

Blogger nswhorse June 14, 2018 6:57 PM  

Cue every leftist claiming the report is a nothing burger and nobody done did nuffin wrong.

Blogger pyrrhus June 14, 2018 6:59 PM  

The FBI has a very poor reputation for honesty to begin with....the FBI crime laboratory was caught fabricating evidence over a long period of time, and hundreds of convictions were overturned. More recently, FBI "expert" witnesses were found to have been systematically lying, and many more convictions were overturned. I'm sure I have left other scandals out...l

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 14, 2018 7:04 PM  

Nate wrote:Name the last time the FBI actually solved a major crime they were not directly responsible for causing.

Lindberg baby kidnapping? Or did they cause that one, too?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 14, 2018 7:15 PM  

Even when a crime has been committed, it's excused because the perpetrator didn't mean to commit it, they're just one of a bunch of knuckleheads who mean well and are good boys and are gwan to go to college.

As James Forrestal once said to Joe McCarthy:
"Consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor."

Blogger traderdoc June 14, 2018 7:19 PM  

A magnificent misdirection away from Hillary wrongdoing, to only FBI wrongdoing.

Blogger Cetera June 14, 2018 7:21 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:@76 Garuna

We need some new phrases. "Burn the Swamp". That direction.


Purge the Swamp, with Holy Nuclear Fire.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 7:23 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Nate wrote:Name the last time the FBI actually solved a major crime they were not directly responsible for causing.

Lindberg baby kidnapping? Or did they cause that one, too?


At this point, it's probably safe to assume it was a Deep State action.

Blogger Mark Stoval June 14, 2018 7:24 PM  

Breitbart: "Inspector General’s Report: FBI May Have Covered up Weiner Laptop to Help Clinton"

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/14/inspector-general-report-casts-doubt-on-hillary-clintons-excuse-for-losing-2016-election/

I am not a lawyer nor a constitutional expert of any kind. But damn, that sounds like treason to me.

The left claimed that Russia got involved in the election (no proof I have seen) and yet we see that the federal agencies under the "president" from Kenya where rigging the election the best they could.

Will anyone go to jail?

Blogger nswhorse June 14, 2018 7:25 PM  

I DontTroll wrote:Today, from the sea hag: https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1007376361101582336

I got brain cancer from reading the replies. I thought I knew wilful ignorance.

Blogger tublecane June 14, 2018 7:31 PM  

@55- When the Vikings led the Saints 17-0 at halftime in that playoff game not long ago, I felt uneasy. Obviously because the Vikings are apt to screw up playoff games, but also because it didn't feel like they were comfortably enough ahead.

Surely enough, the following half was dominated by the Saints, and the Vikings required a last-second miracle play involving the intervention of the ghost of Prince to prevent Marcus Williams making a play.

So everyone's skepticism is understandable to me.

Blogger Nate June 14, 2018 7:38 PM  

"Lindberg baby kidnapping? Or did they cause that one, too?"

lets be charitable and give them that one. So... 1930. Anyone think of anything more recent than 1930?

The point of course is the incompetence of the FBI is nothing new. And in fact other federal LE agencies also hate them. I have a few friends that are US Marshalls... and both say the FBI is worse than useless

Blogger van helsing June 14, 2018 7:42 PM  

regarding the lindbergh baby... http://mileswmathis.com/lindy.pdf

Blogger tublecane June 14, 2018 7:48 PM  

@84- They're jealous of their reputation, and have been since forever. A few years ago I read the novel the Just and the Unjust by James Gould Cozzens, from 1942. It's about men on trial for kidnapping and felony murder, and contains a tangent with the defense attorney grilling an FBI agent on the stand for having strong-armed information out of one of the perps, if I remember correctly.

Well, the FBI didn't like that, and requested Cozzens remove it from future publication. I think he complied, but it's back in current editions.

The idea that the FBI would care enough to ask is enlightening. Do they really think we don't know they rough people up? Such a small thing, in the grand scheme.

Blogger Salt June 14, 2018 7:51 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Nate wrote:Name the last time the FBI actually solved a major crime they were not directly responsible for causing.

Lindberg baby kidnapping? Or did they cause that one, too?


Capturing Patty Hurst.

Blogger Robert What? June 14, 2018 7:53 PM  

I would not expect much of veracity from an IG named (((Horowitz))).

Blogger MortemTyrannus June 14, 2018 7:58 PM  

Yep. This report is the one RR edited. There is a petition at whitehouse.org to release the unredacted version.

Trump also tweeted a reference to it being modified today.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 14, 2018 8:05 PM  

@92 That's a fair point.

Blogger James Dixon June 14, 2018 8:14 PM  

> Will anyone go to jail?

No, no one will go to jail. The best we can hope for is that a fair number of people will be fired and lose their pensions. The only real hope for any jail time in this investigation is Strzok, who obviously broke the Hatch act, even as watered down as it has become.

Now, the investigation into the Russia investigation? That should turn up to lying to the court, which could result in some jail time for those involved.

Blogger Quizzer W June 14, 2018 8:18 PM  

Didn't Mulder and Sculley eventually find the aliens? Can we count that as a victory to get the goose-egg off the board?

Blogger Andrew June 14, 2018 8:25 PM  

Reading M. Stanton Evans' book on McCarthy the FBI are shown as hardcore Communist hunters. Made me proud to be an American. It was the Dems who repeatedly sabotaged all of Hoover's work.

Blogger Looking Glass June 14, 2018 8:41 PM  

van helsing wrote:regarding the lindbergh baby... http://mileswmathis.com/lindy.pdf

For as much as the kidnapping would be a key issue, he makes some really interesting points about the flight-worthiness of the Spirit of St. Louis. Considering we now know Amelia Earhart was simply a passenger for most of her "firsts", there's little reason not to suspect a lot of things were faked for publicity.

The seminal book, "Propaganda", was published in 1928. Funny, that.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 14, 2018 9:47 PM  

@Nate
"Lindberg baby kidnapping? Or did they cause that one, too?"

lets be charitable and give them that one. So... 1930. Anyone think of anything more recent than 1930?


Or maybe we should go back further?
This one was pretty solid. Under Wilson, too. Not so much

https://infogalactic.com/info/Palmer_Raids

Next question: when was the last bad shoot by an FBI agent? According to the feds, that is. One where someone was disciplined, or perhaps faced some kind of legal consequences? On duty, I mean -- the recent dance maniac shooting in Colorado doesn't count.

Blogger Darwinite June 14, 2018 9:48 PM  

@Mortem There’s a difference between editing and redaction. My understanding is that, after the original draft was circulated, the people named could contest the findings, and edits would be made to remove contested findings. Redaction took place later. We want the drafts, more than we want the unredacted yet still edited version of the report.
Also, it should be noted that this is the report of the IG enquiry into the handling of the Clinton email investigation, it was not a re-investigation of the case itself. That IG investigation is still ongoing.

Blogger Jack Amok June 14, 2018 10:09 PM  

so... can we all just admit that Q is, was, and always will be, completely full of crap?

Well, if Q is full of crap about the IG, then I guess we can write off Sittin-on-his-Ass Sessions too.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 14, 2018 10:15 PM  

@Looking Glass

When it comes to Lindbergh's place in The Narrative, there are a couple of issues:

1. Lindbergh was (of course) a leading voice for America First, advocating a noninterventionist foreign policy.
2. Lindbergh's father (Congressman from Minnesota) was a (and possibly the ) leading opponent of the Fed when it was first established, and for years afterwards. Called it:
"The most gigantic trust on earth" and
"Invisible government by the money power"

Given this, can we expect miss "respected" sources to treat the Lindberghs with:
1. Scrupulous objectivity/ neutrality
2. Boisterous boosterism, or
3. Negative portrayals whenever possible

??

Blogger tublecane June 14, 2018 10:17 PM  

@102- I have always assumed McCarthy got his dirt from Hoover, which is why it was accurate. They tracked those people, and actually cared about National Security.

But of course the rot had already set in. McCarthy publicized some of it at the state department and in the army. What was the immediate response from responsible parties? To freak out and demand investigation...into McCarthy. Stonewalling from the administration and the Permanent Government. Of course a circus provided by the lying press.

The American people, on the other hand, were jostled. That may have been the last time a real potential popular revolt was roused against the Washington Establishment. I of course don't count the New Left.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 14, 2018 10:24 PM  

Should be "most," not "miss."

Blogger tublecane June 14, 2018 10:26 PM  

@107- The Lindbergh baby was kidnapped in 1932, before America First! was an issue.

His father was a Progressive Republican, as I recall, and a candidate for governor on the Farm-Labor ticket. One of the good things about certain progressives is that they stood up to the Money Power and were anti-imperialists. Lucky Lindy's dad was known for opposing entry into WWI and the Federal Reserve Act.

People may have had payback in mind.

Blogger Lazarus June 14, 2018 10:41 PM  

Last Refuge sez media are quoting executive summaries which are propaganda foils that do not represent the actual material. which is, in LR speak, devastating. Plus, Trump can declas the redacted parts if he wishes.

Its setting up the next phase.

Meanwhile, a woman was charged with having a loaded firearm in her vagina.

How cool is that? If I had a vagina, I would get very wet thinking about having a loaded firearm in it.

Plus, walking around like that would probably be very mono-erotic.

Excuse me, I have to go do something.

Blogger Nate June 14, 2018 10:45 PM  

"Well, if Q is full of crap about the IG, then I guess we can write off Sittin-on-his-Ass Sessions too."

except you're forgetting that Sessions has appointed Huber. Your ignorance does not equate to Sessions sloth.

Blogger Lazarus June 14, 2018 11:00 PM  

The first release of Strzok & page was redacted. The full thing came out afterward. Remember?

Same thing will happen here.

Why can't people remember anything?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 14, 2018 11:00 PM  

@tublecane

But of course the rot had already set in. McCarthy publicized some of it at the state department and in the army.

It's difficult to really appreciate, even now, the sheer magnitude of the narrative shift and associated retcon that took place during the FDR/ WW2/ early Cold War period. (((Ron Unz))) recently put out an excellent piece that touches on some of the associated unpersoning/ memory holing that happened around that time:

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-great-purge-of-the-1940s/

One tidbit -- I had known already that Walt Disney's problems with Communist labor unions disappeared when he agreed to go on a months-long propaganda tour of South America with a film crew in 1941, but this was new to me:

And the day after the surprise Japanese attack, hundreds of U.S. troops seized control of Disney Studios, allegedly in order to help defend California from Japanese forces located thousands of miles away, with the military occupation continuing for the next eight months.

Needless to say, Disney was the only Gentile-owned (and run) studio in Hollywood in 1941.

To put it another way: Walter Duranty won a Pulitzer Prize for his work in covering up the Holodomor. That prize is still hanging on the wall at the NYT today. Only two mainstream reporters reported reasonably honestly about the Holodomor while it was ongoing: Gareth Jones and Malcolm Muggeridge (still a commie then, but going through a rapid process of disillusionment). Both were blacklisted for their reporting; Jones was assassinated by Communist agents a year or so later.

Communism was enthusiastically supported by much of the US/ UK establishment throughout the 30s and WW2. This history became... highly inconvenient a couple of years later. McCarthy's offense was rescuing inconvenient facts from the memory hole.

Blogger Lazarus June 14, 2018 11:01 PM  

This is my Vagina
This is my Gun
One is inside the other.
Isn't that fun?

Blogger Jack Amok June 14, 2018 11:08 PM  

except you're forgetting that Sessions has appointed Huber. Your ignorance does not equate to Sessions sloth.

I'd be perfectly happy to be wrong on this, but sooner or later somebody has to pull the plug on Mueller or Mueller is going to get in a lucky shot. It's dangerous to let him continue threatening people.

Blogger Jack Amok June 14, 2018 11:11 PM  

Didn't Mulder and Sculley eventually find the aliens? Can we count that as a victory to get the goose-egg off the board?

I don't give a crap about the aliens, did they ever catch that liver-eating creep? That's what I'm worried about.

Though to be fair, the way Mulder handled his sidearm seems to have been quite well researched, as recent events have shown.

Blogger Lazarus June 14, 2018 11:18 PM  

Issuing redacted texts?

Its foreplay.

(Stolen from 8chan)

Blogger tuberman June 14, 2018 11:54 PM  

118. Lazarus

Noone of these people have ever learned the lesson to Wait a While with the God Emperor...and everything will turn 180 degrees, and they will See...What is actually happening.

Blogger Crew June 15, 2018 12:03 AM  

It's funny how the FBI managed to hire so many knuckleheads ...

Blogger MortemTyrannus June 15, 2018 12:23 AM  

Rank and file FBI....here is what they think of anyone who voted for Trump.

11:02:22, FBI Employee: “All the people who were initially voting for her would not, and were not, swayed by any decision the FBI put out. Trump’s supporters are all poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS that think he will magically grant them jobs for doing nothing. They probably didn’t watch the debates, aren’t fully educated on his policies, and are stupidly wrapped up in his unmerited enthusiasm.”

This pisses me off thoroughly.

Blogger MortemTyrannus June 15, 2018 12:34 AM  

@Darwinite

I understand the difference. I want the unredacted original IG report. If edits are made, they can be included with a note that it is contested by whom and why. I'm just fed up with the filtered view. The facts need to be laid bare for all to view. The more sunlight the better.

Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion June 15, 2018 12:41 AM  

Five janitors are in trouble.

Blogger tublecane June 15, 2018 1:55 AM  

@121- I've worn out my outrage receptor for such statements. But one thing annoys me:

In what way is Trump's enthusiasm unmerited? Just because you're all miserable SOBs doesn't mean Trump isn't genuinely enthusiastic.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 15, 2018 1:55 AM  

Who’s his boss?

So why does he still have a job?

Blogger SemiSpook37 June 15, 2018 2:37 AM  

Seems to be a thing with the FBI: executive summaries of reports that distort or misinterpret what the actual report says.

Louis Freeh did the same thing with his report on Penn State and how they handled Jerry Sandusky. What’s conveniently missing is any detailed insight into the Second Mile.

Still hasn’t been looked into. Still maintain doing so takes out the political establishments of five states, at least.

Blogger wreckage June 15, 2018 2:52 AM  

Speaking of swamps, and of interest regarding literary and fiction circles and their horrific attitude to sex with minors:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/when-great-men-abuse-artistic-licence-to-act-on-grubby-impulses-20180614-p4zlih.html

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Blogger Salt June 15, 2018 6:34 AM  

and in breaking news... FBI agents can't dance without discharging their firearm.

Blogger Ken Prescott June 15, 2018 6:38 AM  

I have a modest proposal:

The God-Emperor should simply make the FBI's conduct the gold standard in ALL federal investigations.

Statute doesn't have an intent element: too bad! Intent is now required in all cases.

Enshrine every single break that the Swamp gives their own be granted to every suspect, and explicitly state that failure to do so shall be stipulated as reversible error on appeal.

Blogger Solon June 15, 2018 6:59 AM  

Ignorance is not and has not ever been an excuse for breaking the law. "I'm sorry officer, I didn't know I couldn't do that" doesn't make it alright to carry three pounds of cocaine in the trunk of your car, as a hypothetical example.

And yet the Swamp does this all the time. The only explanation possible is that the law enforcement agencies responsible for enforcing the law are, themselves, part of the Swamp.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 15, 2018 7:11 AM  

Bingo!

Blogger tublecane June 15, 2018 7:36 AM  

We're told to sit tight. Wait. Soon. Trust Sessions/Horowitz, Huber, whomever. And if they're going to catch all these people in one Night if the Long Knives, good.

However, I'd just like to point out General Flynn pled guilty. Manafort has charges on him. They'll probably hit Cohen with someone. All with zero evidence to substantiate Muh Russia. Get Trump has its special prosecutor.

Meanwhile, zero people have been charged in connection to Emailgate, Spygate, Obamagate as a whole, as well as what I would like to call Coupgate. Though there could be sealed indictment, I suppose.

Not to mention Bengazi, Fast and Furious, the IRS scandal, the NSA Prism scandal, and any number of things we care about. No special prosecutors, either.

That's how the swamp works. Is still working.

Blogger Nate June 15, 2018 7:44 AM  

"That's how the swamp works. Is still working. "

depends on what your expectations are. If like me... you think the Huber investigation could end up with some really embarrassing resignations or firings... then you are within the realm of the plausible.


If you want to see people go to jail... forget it. It is not going to happen.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 15, 2018 8:37 AM  

@16 Mister Excitement
"Inspector General Michael Horowitz "

It's gotten to the point that if somebody doesn't have an expressly Anglo last name, I immediately don't trust them.

If somebody has a Jewish sounding last name, not only do I immediately not trust them, but I already know their corrupt.
---

I'm with you.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 15, 2018 8:40 AM  

@25 tublecane

My question: was he really that obtuse, or have his masters ordered him to move a bit toward the Trump persecution side? Why? What is their play?
---

They have to give the appearance of being the intellectual dark right or whatever (((name))) they've come up with for their controlled oppo cabal.

Blogger James Dixon June 15, 2018 9:09 AM  

> That's how the swamp works. Is still working.

Comey was fired. McCabe was fired for cause. Both are acting like they expect worse. Rosenstein is so rattled he's threatening Congress critters to get them to back off. Five FBI people have been referred for internal discipline (read that as likely firings) for breaking FBI policies and procedures. Given the nature of the deep state, these are actually remarkable achievements, and the process is only in it's second stage. There's a lot more to go.

Yes, the deep state is working as designed. It's protecting its people to the best of its ability. And it's not enough. For the first time in decades, it's actually losing people and more are leaving voluntarily. See http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/391958-report-senior-doj-official-resigns-after-doj-decision-not-to-defend-key for one example.

It's highly unlikely any of these people will see jail time. But resignations, firings, and public humiliation? Those are on the table.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 15, 2018 5:24 PM  

"We're not corrupt, Goyim, We're merely INCOMPETENT. Now, go back to sleep."

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 15, 2018 5:49 PM  

As a holder of both, guns & a vagina, NO.

There's nothing remotely erotic about having a hard, oddly shaped object painfully crammed into your vagina.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 15, 2018 11:44 PM  

Glad to know I'm not oddly shaped.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 15, 2018 11:44 PM  

Hmm, that might not have come out right.

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