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Monday, June 04, 2018

They fought the Germans

And their grandsons promptly surrendered to the Pakistanis and the Windrush Generation. Winston's Churchill's brave words sound increasingly hollow three score and 18 years later.
I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once more able to defend our island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone. At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Majesty’s Government – every man of them. That is the will of Parliament and the nation. The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
Not only have the British failed to fight in the fields and streets against a much bigger invasion than they faced from the Wehrmacht, they didn't even fight at all! I am increasingly convinced that if the US soldiers who went overseas to fight against the Germans and Japanese had any idea what their sacrifices would eventually entail, both at home and abroad, they wouldn't have been willing to go.

Of course, the post-1965 American performance has been even worse than their erstwhile "British brethren" in this regard. To this very day, most of you still don't see any problem at all with tens of millions of fellow citizens born American in China, India, Iran, Mexico, Nigeria, and Portugal. Many of you, I have witnessed, even claim to prefer them to actual Americans, so long as they mouth platitudes of which you approve. I, on the other hand, am firmly convinced that the planet-wide Migration War is going to make the death toll of WWII look like a mild pre-game stretch. Never will have large-scale human suffering been more avoidable or more well-deserved. Almost everyone, from the highest government Minister to the lowest mudshark, is culpable to some degree.

No one reading here will ever be able to claim they were not warned. Repeatedly.

Anyhow, I tend to doubt clinging to the specious ideological doctrine of equality is going to provide anyone with much solace when three-quarters of the world's population reenacts the post-imperial partition of India on a grander, more vicious scale. Those who claim "it can't happen here" forget that it already has... most of it AFTER the writing of the Declaration of Independence.

UPDATE: Apparently I was right. The British who actually fought in WWII do not believe their sacrifices were worth it.
Hers was a small part in a huge, history-making enterprise, and her contribution epitomises her generation's sense of service and sacrifice. Nearly 400,000 Britons died. Millions more were scarred by the experience, physically and mentally.

But was it worth it?

Her answer - and the answer of many of her contemporaries, now in their 80s and 90s - is a resounding No. They despise what has become of the Britain they once fought to save. It's not our country any more, they say, in sorrow and anger. Immigration tops the list of complaints.
They are right to despise what passes for modern Britain. It is a despicable and half-conquered nation. So is modern America. Which is why both nations are rapidly disappearing from history. The Magna Carta and the U.S. Constitution will soon be no more relevant to the 8 billion people on the planet than the Laws of Hammurabi or the Codex Justinianus. That will be the ultimate legacy of three generations of cowards, who were too afraid of being called names to defend their land, their traditions, and their people.

History doesn't give a flying fuck about your foreign wives, your alien friends, your nice immigrant neighbors, or your exotic co-workers. ALL OF THEM are collectively the problem. ALL OF THEM have collectively adulterated and degraded the nation, which is why almost ALL OF THEM will either be excluded or the destruction of the Western nations that is already well underway will be completed. There will be no exceptions made for "being a nice person" or "loving baseball and apple pie" or "being a Christian", only for being useful to the winners. Those nations with the will to survive will do so, those without it will vanish into the history books.

Thus has it always been, thus will it always be. The pendulum always swings back, sooner or later.

Think about how much mercy was shown to the Hindus of Bangladesh, the Cherokee forced to walk The Trail of Tears, the Germans ethnically cleansed from Eastern Europe, the Canaanites, and the whites of Zimbabwe. Those people had lived in those places for generations, in some cases, for centuries. How much mercy do you seriously believe will be shown to those who observably don't even belong there in the first place?

Those who are still in denial about the inevitable consequences of mass immigration have the same mindset as the historical fools who denied that Adolf Hitler had any territorial ambitions outside the borders of Germany and asserted that Stalin was a man of peace. They should not be accorded even a modicum of intellectual respect, because they do not merit any.

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144 Comments:

Blogger Shane Sullivan June 04, 2018 7:25 AM  

Vox, what parts of the U.S do you think will be hit hardest by the upcoming Migration War and along what lines do you think the country will partition?

Blogger McChuck June 04, 2018 7:27 AM  

We should have allied with the Germans in 1940. Demilitarize France, declare a truce with Britain, and crush the Soviets.

But no. We allied with the communists, and they won. With everything that entails.

And then George VI died, leaving that pretty but completely unqualified young woman on the throne of England. She has presided over the destruction of not only the Empire, but Great Britain and England itself.

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 7:32 AM  

I haven't set foot in the USA for over a decade. I have no idea where the lines are these days. I mean, when I was last living in the States, Compton was still black. It's impossible to know if the country will actually partition or if we'll see some sort of brutal continent-wide ethnic cleansing of the sort that was systematically directed against the American Indian.

Remember, not only has this happened before, it happened before in the exact same territory. But don't worry, the descendants of whoever wins will be every bit as convinced that it was right and necessary and justified as white Americans presently believe the previous ethnic cleansing was. It's all going to depend upon who takes power and what drives them.

Imagine what Trump would be like if Ivanka had been raped by a Pakistani grooming gang as a young girl and his sons had been murdered by MS-13. If someone like that comes to power, all bets are off.

Blogger Shane Sullivan June 04, 2018 7:35 AM  

@2 The Progressive Government of America was arguably more to the left of Stalin's Regime at that time, so it's not surprising we aided them.

To be fair to the Queen, English Monarchs haven't possessed real power since the Stuarts.

Blogger Nate June 04, 2018 7:46 AM  

defending a nation against an invader with guns is easy.

Defending a nation against an invader armed with women and children, buttressed by your own nations treasonous traitors and a complicit media... is a great deal more difficult.

Blogger basementhomebrewer June 04, 2018 7:47 AM  

VD wrote:I haven't set foot in the USA for over a decade. I have no idea where the lines are these days. I mean, when I was last living in the States, Compton was still black. It's impossible to know if the country will actually partition or if we'll see some sort of brutal continent-wide ethnic cleansing of the sort that was systematically directed against the American Indian.

This is the most likely outcome. The Obama administration ensured that by moving refugees and public housing into what were traditionally rural white areas. It doesn't take much effort to walk around your old home town and notice how different the demographics are from just 15 years ago. The lines are drawn in nearly every community now.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 04, 2018 7:53 AM  

VD wrote:It's impossible to know if the country will actually partition or if we'll see some sort of brutal continent-wide ethnic cleansing of the sort that was systematically directed against the American Indian.

Yes, I'd say it's nigh on impossible to foresee how this will play out in the U.S. It's much too complicated, with so many different nations/peoples; and Whites divided so starkly, ideologically.

So as much "fun" as it is to speculate and craft scenarios (many a book has been, and will be, written), we have no idea. It will be a mess, that's for certain.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 04, 2018 7:56 AM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:The Obama administration ensured that by moving refugees and public housing into what were traditionally rural white areas.

Yep, he really muddied the waters, and ensured a bloodier outcome. That's his legacy, no matter what his intentions were.

Blogger Uncle John's Band June 04, 2018 7:58 AM  

It always seemed bitterly ironic that the people who fought the war were the same ones who presided over the evisceration of their cultures. A gross oversimplification for sure, but it still stings.

Blogger #7139 June 04, 2018 8:01 AM  

Imagine what Trump would be like if Ivanka had been raped by a Pakistani grooming gang as a young girl and his sons had been murdered by MS-13. If someone like that comes to power, all bets are off.

This is my darkest fantasy. And I think it will come to pass.

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 8:04 AM  

Defending a nation against an invader armed with women and children, buttressed by your own nations treasonous traitors and a complicit media... is a great deal more difficult.

Apparently, yes. Had Hitler merely been smart enough to send women and children across the English Channel, he would have won the war. Who knew it was that easy?

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir June 04, 2018 8:10 AM  

Churchill sold his soul. History is proving him to be a cruel, narcissistic liar.

Blogger Phillip George June 04, 2018 8:17 AM  

Never forget, Britain has been a republic.
This little bit of consitutional Monarchic rule is just a minor deviation from the course set by Oliver Cromwell, Defender of the Faith.

Which faith? The faith in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

the take away from Winston's stirring oratory is, Native Soil.
You cannot have native soil without nativity: people born to an inheritance.

The inheritance is the faith of their fathers.

The inheritance is a promise from Jesus Christ. This is Britain and there is no other.
He is the flag. If Cromwell's England is not Her Majesty's one is in the way of the other.

Blogger Nate June 04, 2018 8:19 AM  

The dividing line in the US is still primarily Urban vs Rural in the micro, and coastal vs heartland in the macro.

Blogger Nate June 04, 2018 8:20 AM  

"Had Hitler merely been smart enough to send women and children across the English Channel, he would have won the war. "

eastern mind vs western mind right?

Why fight a battle when the war can be won without firing a shot?

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) June 04, 2018 8:21 AM  

12. Michael O'Duibhir June 04, 2018 8:10 AM
Churchill sold his soul. History is proving him to be a cruel, narcissistic liar.



the English have been renowned for their perfidy since the 1200s.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2707704?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

who's fault is it when another nation mistakenly thinks that it's completely different THIS time and, gosh darn it, I'M going to kick that football.

Perfidious Albion gonna perfidy.

Blogger Richard Holmes June 04, 2018 8:23 AM  

VD, Isn't this a little like a catch 22 for you? You warn of this scenario. Many people call you a racist. Most people don't care to be a racist so they hurl insults and threats at you. You gain some members but lose out on the ninnies who are afraid of being called a racist. But then, this is the very thing you are warning about. (sigh) I do agree with you. But the average american still isn't enraged enough to truly fight back.

Blogger Z Malfoy June 04, 2018 8:25 AM  


This is the most likely outcome. The Obama administration ensured that by moving refugees and public housing into what were traditionally rural white areas. It doesn't take much effort to walk around your old home town and notice how different the demographics are from just 15 years ago. The lines are drawn in nearly every community now.


I also agree with this. The local demographic changes (Suburban Maryland) have been stark and severe. Every time I notice this when out in public, I ponder what this means for the future. Mostly, it results in me upping my ammo budget, and working harder to get out of this area. Across the river and into the mountains, preferably.

Blogger ZhukovG June 04, 2018 8:31 AM  

I suspect the bloodiest battlegrounds will be in the United States. What will rise from the ashes, I don't know for sure.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Imperator Trump!

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 8:35 AM  

VD, Isn't this a little like a catch 22 for you? You warn of this scenario. Many people call you a racist. Most people don't care to be a racist so they hurl insults and threats at you.

Certainly. I've definitely lost more readers over this than over Jordan Peterson. About 15-20 percent in total, I would estimate. I've been told by more than a few writers that they won't publish with Castalia due to this. Fine. I have no intellectual respect or regard for anyone who rejects what I am saying because it gives them a sad or because it offends their ego, their ideology, or their tribal identities.

It's hardly the first time. I lost even more readers over my observations that George W. Bush was not a fine upstanding conservative. At the time, something like 95 percent of my readers were Bush voters.

As always, people will return when they realize that I am right again. And three-quarters of them will forget that they ever believed differently.

Blogger Unknown June 04, 2018 8:39 AM  

There's an interesting post up on ZH about an email Jack Minzey wrote just before passing away. In it he describes the US as being in a de facto state of civil war:

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win. It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war.

There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.


The Modern Civil War Is Being Fought Without Guns... So Far!

Blogger Miguel June 04, 2018 8:40 AM  

With the police state being implemented, I wonder who things will work out.

Blogger insight June 04, 2018 8:42 AM  

Mexico the problem that Spain started. Maybe Spain should be taxed to pay for that wall?

"I am increasingly convinced that if the US soldiers who went overseas to fight against the Germans and Japanese had any idea what their sacrifices would eventually entail, both at home and abroad, they wouldn't have been willing to go."

Those older generations surely would not have, there would not have been any point after the traitors/gutless wonders gave it away to mudslimes and globalists. The generations that don't rise up against the globalists and their mudslime tools are spitting on the legacy of those generations that fought for freedom in WWII. Generational wealth doesn't include just money.

Blogger Shane Sullivan June 04, 2018 8:43 AM  

@3 Thanks for the quick, albeit it, chilling response Vox.

You're right though, Americans have been much worse then the English when it comes to dealing with demographics. Maybe it's because of our country's size, our materialistic stupor, or just plain naivety, but I think no one can deny that what's happened has been brought about by the selfishness of the older generations. Being a millennial, I've myself seen firsthand that much of my generation has drank the kool-aid completely, but when I encounter Boomers privately, including my own parents, I found that many of them don't believe this sloppy egalitarian rhetoric one bit; whether it be race, sex, or demographics, they never shudder but nod in approval as if it's obvious; when I let the hammer fall and tell them of what these things together portend for America, do you know what they say, "Well, good thing I'll be dead by then!". Good indeed!

I hope that when push comes too shove, my generation can help aid the younger, and our great grandchildren can look back and be proud about what we were able to preserve of Western Civilization.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 June 04, 2018 8:43 AM  

Mass 3rd World immigration has been an extremely effective form of biological warfare for the Left.
Far more damaging to the West than a limited nuclear war or a large-scale conventional war.

By far the biggest danger on the horizon is Sub-Saharan Africa.
Europe and North America are like large fertile green valleys and Sub-Saharan Africa is like a gigantic and rapidly growing volcanic mountain range that is swiftly approaching.

If the West doesn't take strong measures to keep Sub-Saharan Africa at bay we're going to be inundated with an extremely toxic and crippling population mudslide which would be the final nail in coffin.




Blogger insight June 04, 2018 8:46 AM  

"There's an interesting post up on ZH about an email Jack Minzey wrote just before passing away. In it he describes the US as being in a de facto state of civil war:"

That's one cogent email about the mess the US is in and the utterly traitorous scum that is the democrat party.

Blogger James Dixon June 04, 2018 8:48 AM  

> That's his legacy, no matter what his intentions were.

His intentions were to implant a fifth column in every community in the country. Whenever possible, a Muslim fifth column.

Blogger James Dixon June 04, 2018 8:52 AM  

> Europe and North America are like large fertile green valleys and Sub-Saharan Africa is like a gigantic and rapidly growing volcanic mountain range that is swiftly approaching.

A volcano that we created by feeding it.

> If the West doesn't take strong measures to keep Sub-Saharan Africa at bay

All we have to do is stop feeding them. They're incapable of feeding themselves, as they've proven decade after decade.

Blogger Peaceful Poster June 04, 2018 8:54 AM  

I've just been re-reading "Victoria". It's even better the second time around.

But we can only hope the war goes that smoothly.

Blogger veryfunnyminion June 04, 2018 8:55 AM  

A survey was done in Britain if WWII was worth it:

"But was it worth it? Her answer - and the answer of many of her contemporaries, now in their 80s and 90s - is a resounding No."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html#ixzz5HSd6wyD5

Blogger veryfunnyminion June 04, 2018 8:56 AM  

That link seemed to have fugged up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html

Blogger CarpeOro June 04, 2018 9:01 AM  

Full stop at the first sentence of the Churchill on the phrase "if nothing is neglected". There is nothing as important as your progeny and the giving away of their inheritance is absolute neglect. This goes for England and the USA.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia June 04, 2018 9:19 AM  

Churchill was a Victorian, right until his bitter end, right down to this rhetoric of mellifluous echoing clauses and periodic sentence structures that inform this speech, and his other speeches and writings.

His entire life was informed by three things: (1) imperial power and reach; (2) the clash of great powers; and (3) complete and total faith in the rightness of the English speaking version of Western Culture. Even though he had a second run as prime minister, he was an anachronism by 1945.

But he understood the third world, and what a shithole it was. He had been there -- India, Sudan, Afghanistan, South Africa. He had seen the Mohammedans up close. He was repulsed by them.

And Churchill knew that giving India its independence was the end of the empire, and famously told the dilettante Louis Mountbatten as India fell apart, “What you did in India was like striking me across the face with a riding crop.”

Being a British colony was the best thing that happened to places like India, Hong Kong, Singapore.

If Churchill got up out of his grave and saw what was happening, he would hurry back to his coffin, mortified in every sense of that word.

Blogger Teleros June 04, 2018 9:23 AM  

How much mercy do you seriously believe will be shown to those who observably don't even belong there in the first place?

A fair amount, I hope. Next to none, I expect.

Blogger Phillip George June 04, 2018 9:24 AM  

yes shitholes are shitholes because they aren't British.
To teach civilization is the convert the souls.

Back to basics. Tommy Robinson is in jail for trying to protect teenage natives from muslim rape squads.

It's time for REGIME CHANGE. pardon the yelling. you had to hear it in both ears.

Blogger tuberman June 04, 2018 9:32 AM  

4. Shane Sullivan

No, the Windsors still possess real and rhetorical power, and a lot of it. If the Windsors didn't want the Muslim invasion, they could send all kinds of messages, but they do not, as they are on board. In fact, all the elite in the UK are the tip of the spear for all the Globalist/NWO Narratives. If Prince Phillip wants someone dead, it will be done. The power over the still "colonies," Canada, New Zealand, and Australia is far more than is shown on the surface, as their covert power is still strong.

Yet, they are not the puppet masters of the NWO, so they are told what they must do, by the Roths and a couple of groups.

The elite are the biggest problem, and need to be destroyed. Breivik was correct.

Blogger John Best June 04, 2018 9:35 AM  

I explain to Asians and Africans on twitter that if they don't return to their own nations we won't allow them to leave, we will shut down the ports, airports and channel tunnel, then drive them all into certain areas of the country, murder millions of them and create slave reservations. After which we will continue to punish them for generations for what they have done to our people. The always say they are taking over and threatening my people with rape and being overthrown, so now it comes down it and we see them as plague carrying rats which need to be exterminated to protect our people. Since I don't actually want this to happen, I say they all have to go back, if they don't that's fine.

Blogger Brick Hardslab June 04, 2018 9:40 AM  

The Brits have been on board with the Muslims before Lepanto.

Blogger Fernando Negro June 04, 2018 9:42 AM  

"...and Portugal."

As a Portuguese myself, I'm curious about the inclusion of my country on the list.

If I'm reading the text right, it's a critique to immigration to the USA. And, Portugal is a small developed country of 10 million people. So, I seriously doubt that immigration from Portugal is even a noticeably phenomenon. Also, unlike the other countries mentioned, Portugal is a European country of Western culture.

Portuguese are highly civilized people who, when moving to other countries always integrate and respect the local rules. One way to spot descendants of Portuguese immigrants even, is to look for a first name in the local language and a last one in Portuguese - since that, unlike many other people from other countries, Portuguese immigrants always tend to give local names to their children born abroad.

The only problem I see with Portuguese people is that they are too repressed and not rebellious - and, by that, always tend to not contest tyrannical regimes. Being that the only negative aspect of Portuguese immigration that I can see - since that, like I called attention to above, Portugal is a civilized Western European country. And, being the USA a Western country built by descendants of (and also first generation) Europeans immigrants, I don't see where the problem lies with accepting some more European immigrants.

If the question is *illegal* immigration, that's not a problem with Portuguese people, also - since that, as I said, they're too civilized and repressed to immigrate that way. (Having I always lived in Portugal, I've never heard of any illegal immigration phenomenon to the USA, around here.)

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 04, 2018 9:44 AM  

Tuberman,

Absolutely right. If William wanted to, he could rally the country in a second, through public statements to papers, TV shows, interviews, popular acclaim, their version of the bully pulpit, etc.

But he doesn't. Because he's one of them.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 04, 2018 9:45 AM  

IIRC, W. Churchill is quoted as saying "we fought the wrong dog". WC was referring to not fighting the Soviets/Russians.

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 9:48 AM  

As a Portuguese myself, I'm curious about the inclusion of my country on the list.

A Portuguese woman, who is as American as I am Portuguese, declares herself to have been "born American in Portugal". It is a fatuously stupid expression and is very popular with certain civic nationalists.

I don't see where the problem lies with accepting some more European immigrants.

Of course you don't. You're Portuguese, not American. Therein lies the problem. You don't even understand that the USA's current state is the direct result of accepting European immigrants in the first place.

Blogger Alphaeus June 04, 2018 9:48 AM  

Don't discount the power of brainwashing to make even sensible and intelligent and knowledgeable and principled people stupider than a box of rocks.
People have allowed the Globalists to convince them that to want to control immigration is racist, and racism is the worst thing in the world, except for sexism and homophobia and trans-phobia, depending on circumstances. And now that any means of self defense is deemed racist, it's like the West's immune system has been destroyed and is helpless before any and all opportunistic infections.
The First Battle for the Mind has been lost to the Globalists, but maybe the Second Battle for the Mind might bring different results.
I have a slogan to contribute to the cause:

"STUPIDITY IS DEATH."

How do you like it?

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 9:53 AM  

Portuguese are highly civilized people who, when moving to other countries always integrate and respect the local rules.

Please. I've played all-Portuguese teams. The only teams that are more hot-headed and worse-behaved are Albanians and Turks.

I get along fine with them. They're kind of like shorter, rougher Italians. But they ALWAYS support their home team in Portugal instead of wherever it is that they live.

Blogger Argus Bacchus June 04, 2018 9:56 AM  

I feel so bad about the injustices that I and my ancestors have committed that I am willing to see my children and their descendants suffer in perpetuity for it. In their own country especially.

That way everyone will love me and tell me how great I am.

Except my children, of course. But they are related to me, so they are pieces of shit anyway, and I don't care what they think.

Oh, how noble I am.

Come praise me.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 04, 2018 9:57 AM  

@14. Nate

My reaction was also that a primary delineation was the rural-urban.

Blogger Argus Bacchus June 04, 2018 9:59 AM  

Oh, and I forgot to mention how UNIQUELY EVIL what I and my ancestors have done.

Don't forget that acknowledgement when you praise me.

Thanks.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 04, 2018 10:01 AM  

@44

As a man named Pereira I can confirm this 100%. However, I'm going to pull a muh exception because I don't support Portugal or any other soccer team, I only support team Canada (hockey). Sorry.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 04, 2018 10:07 AM  

@39


"Portuguese are highly civilized people..."

Where?

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 04, 2018 10:09 AM  

@49
In Portugal?

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 04, 2018 10:15 AM  

Half Portuguese/Sicilians be like, "Man my grandparents didn't leave their country to come to this country to have it turn into China and India."

mfw

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 04, 2018 10:18 AM  

Michael O'Duibhir wrote:Churchill sold his soul. History is proving him to be a cruel, narcissistic liar.

That would explain the black dog of depression that afflicted him. Satan is hard on his minions. It's odd that he likened depression to a black dog: it's impossible to remain un-cheered when you have a big, black Lab to keep you company.

tuberman wrote:If the Windsors didn't want the Muslim invasion, they could send all kinds of messages, but they do not, as they are on board.

The elite are the biggest problem, and need to be destroyed. Breivik was correct.


Here, there and everywhere.

Fernando Negro wrote:The only problem I see with Portuguese people is that they are too repressed and not rebellious - and, by that, always tend to not contest tyrannical regimes.

Then Portagees can never be Americans. On a separate but related note, Sarah Hoyt is a self-serving fool who proves that statement.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 04, 2018 10:20 AM  

Daniel Paul Grech Pereira wrote:@39

"Portuguese are highly civilized people..."

Where?


In comparison to mohammedans?

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 04, 2018 10:21 AM  

The Quebecois will be the strongest ethnic group on the American continent once this all goes to Hell.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 04, 2018 10:21 AM  

@53

Fine but that's a seriously low bar and nothing to brag about.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 04, 2018 10:25 AM  

Daniel Paul Grech Pereira wrote:Half Portuguese/Sicilians be like, "Man my grandparents didn't leave their country to come to this country to have it turn into China and India."

mfw


If you want to be a Brown man in a White country, you better slam the door behind you once you get into that White country. If you want to get out of the Third World, you better make damn sure nobody follows you out. We can tolerate a few, single immigrants, whose descendants might assimilate. If there are enough of them to form an immigrant community, they will destroy what they came to enjoy. That includes Scandinavians and Portagees.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 04, 2018 10:27 AM  

Daniel Paul Grech Pereira wrote:@53

Fine but that's a seriously low bar and nothing to brag about.


It's a low bar, but some groups manage to crawl under it.

Blogger Fernando Negro June 04, 2018 10:29 AM  

@42

A Portuguese woman, who is as American as I am Portuguese, declares herself to have been "born American in Portugal".

Well, I can guarantee you that, the case that you mention of that Portuguese woman, is certainly an abnormality or exception... Since that, even with all the integration principle that Portuguese people follow, when they immigrate ("When in Rome, do as the Romans do"), Portuguese people always tend to, at the same time, keep emotionally attached to their homeland, and proudly keep some of their national identity traits.

You don't even understand that the USA's current state is the direct result of accepting European immigrants in the first place.

I think I get it, then. I can see that your last name is an English one. So, from what you write, I deduce that your idea of an ideal USA is one in which the population is only ethnically English or British. And, having you mentioned the Magna Carta, in the original text (that served as inspiration for the US Bill of Rights) I can understand why would you wish for such British ethnicity, in the USA, to be kept. (Thank you for your explanation.)

It's an interesting reflection topic, that you just gave to me... :)

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 10:35 AM  

I think I get it, then. I can see that your last name is an English one. So, from what you write, I deduce that your idea of an ideal USA is one in which the population is only ethnically English or British.

It's not about an ideal USA, it's about an actual American nation. That nation is ethnically English. The current USA is no longer synonymous with the American nation, it is now only "American" in the same sense that the European Union is "European" due to the continent on which it happens to be located.

And like all multiethnic empires do, it will end in homogenous nation-states.

Blogger ikacer June 04, 2018 10:37 AM  

VD: "The pendulum always swings back, sooner or later."

Intuitively I feel you should be right, there are still large numbers of Englishmen and the English are still roughly as good a people as ever, but it has been such a long time and it has not happened yet. Below is James Anthony Froude making the same observations as VD back in 1888. But why must the pendulum swing back? It is perhaps not necessary. I think the intuition that it must comes from projecting internal reactions to the situation upon the general English people. We here are in the minority, and if the population contains few enough good men, we might be suppressed in perpetuity.

JAF: "Such periods do not last, for the condition which they bring about becomes always intolerable. I do not believe in the degeneracy of our race. I believe the present generation of Englishmen to be capable of all that their fathers were and possibly of more; but we are just now in a moulting state, and are sick while the process is going on. Or to take another metaphor. The bow of Ulysses is unstrung. The worms have not eaten into the horn or the moths injured the string, but the owner of the house is away and the suitors of Penelope Britannia consume her substance, rivals one of another, each caring only for himself, but with a common heart in evil. They cannot string the bow. Only the true lord and master can string it, and in due time he comes, and the cord is stretched once more upon the notch, singing to the touch of the finger with the sharp note of the swallow; and the arrows fly to their mark in the breasts of the pretenders, while Pallas Athene looks on approving from her coign of vantage."

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 10:37 AM  

Portuguese people always tend to, at the same time, keep emotionally attached to their homeland, and proudly keep some of their national identity traits.

Which is great. But that is why they will never be American, French, or Eskimos.

It's amazing to me that no one ever seems to remember that the Israelites lived in Egypt for 400 years and still remained Israelites. If what the equalitarians say is true, shouldn't the Jews be regarded as Genuine, True Blue Egyptians?

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 10:40 AM  

But why must the pendulum swing back?

You don't understand what the pendulum is. It has nothing to do with Anglo-Americans, it has to do with social mood and mindset. There is no guarantee the heritage Americans will end up on top. For all we know, it could be the Chinese who win the grand prize.

Blogger Nate June 04, 2018 10:54 AM  

Dude. We don't have to Bake the Damn Cake anymore. And fricken Kagan sided with the majority.

It is gonna be a fun day to troll Tumblr.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia June 04, 2018 10:58 AM  

VD wrote:

Please. I've played all-Portuguese teams. The only teams that are more hot-headed and worse-behaved are Albanians and Turks.


You forgot Assyrians and, of course, the all-Mexican teams. I saw an indoor match between an all-Assyrian team and a bunch of Tris, and I thought somebody was going to be decapitated before the final horn sounded.

Blogger Unknown June 04, 2018 11:06 AM  

There's no grand prize but heterogeneity, and that's no prize at all. It's small-minded, crass, and offends the transcendant.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas June 04, 2018 11:07 AM  

I agree on US being a majority English nation but I'd point out that Lowland and Ulster Scot Protestants played an outsized role in American independence, both in the Revolutionary Army and government, and taming the frontiers. I think the "WASP" label, which combines English and Scottish Protestants and excludes Irish and Scottish Catholics, is a little more accurate for that reason.

Blogger Doug Cranmer June 04, 2018 11:09 AM  

I've Portuguese and I have Portuguese that married into my family and their common trait is being completely insufferable.

Your post is just a perfect example of it. You have to go back.

Blogger Crush Limbraw June 04, 2018 11:12 AM  

Did I miss something, Vox? What specifically prompted your post today?

Blogger Jack Amok June 04, 2018 11:13 AM  

But why must the pendulum swing back?

Because of this:

"If you want to be a Brown man in a White country, you better slam the door behind you once you get into that White country. If you want to get out of the Third World, you better make damn sure nobody follows you out. We can tolerate a few, single immigrants, whose descendants might assimilate. If there are enough of them to form an immigrant community, they will destroy what they came to enjoy. "

When a cohesive society of like-minded, long time preference, high IQ people build a civilization, it becomes prosperous. Because it's prosperous, two things happen: 1) people from other less successful societies want to move there, and 2) the people there have enough money to paper over the chaos caused by letting a few of them in.

But over time, as a few become many, the newcomers drag down the IQ and time preference, and destroy any civic unity, plus continue to cost more and more money as more and more arrive. After a while, society is riven by factions, no longer prosperous, and there is no longer money to paper over the chaos.


Blogger Doug Cranmer June 04, 2018 11:15 AM  

And the fucking Iranians. Complete assholes.

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 11:17 AM  

Did I miss something, Vox? What specifically prompted your post today?

It is the anniversary of Winston Churchill's famous speech. I find it ironic that people celebrate it while either ignoring or celebrating the invasion of Britain.

Blogger Jack Morrow June 04, 2018 11:17 AM  

The same thing happened in Trudeaupia, where the generation that fought WWII turned around 23 years later and handed it over to Pierre Trudeau, who didn't fight in that war, and had a strange Obama-like background, 40 years before B.O. came along. Like Hitler, he had published articles and books stating his views, but anyone who tried to draw attention to his published views was regarded as a hatemonger.

This was in no small part the bitter fruit of women's suffrage. I know of one woman--probably one of several million who were the same way--who had long said that she couldn't vote for any man who wouldn't fought for his country. However, she decided to make an exception in the case of Trudeau, because he was glamorous and exciting.

50 years on, the country is a nation in name only, an unrecognizable multicultural monstrosity that's increasingly being redefined by its invader populations.

Blogger Azimus June 04, 2018 11:18 AM  

61. VD June 04, 2018 10:37 AM
It's amazing to me that no one ever seems to remember that the Israelites lived in Egypt for 400 years and still remained Israelites. If what the equalitarians say is true, shouldn't the Jews be regarded as Genuine, True Blue Egyptians?


They may have been. At least for a generation or so. I was doing some research on the Biblical Battle of Jericho, and one of the primary reasons the anti-God archeologists argue with a straight face that the Battle of Jericho is a myth, is because when they dug up the site, yes they found evidence that the walls had toppled over, and yes they found that the city had been burned, but the military equipment found in the layer was EGYPTIAN and Canaanite, not ISRAELITE and Canaanite. Therefore myth.

Your point was not lost on me, I just found it fascinating when I read about it.

Blogger pyrrhus June 04, 2018 11:22 AM  

@42 @58 The average IQ in Portugal is 95, which is typical of southern Europe....https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country...Which doesn't say much for the idea of immigrants from Portugal.

Blogger Al Du Clur June 04, 2018 11:22 AM  

"There is no guarantee the heritage Americans will end up on top"

There is actually a very slim chance that heritage Americans will end up on top. America was doomed once it allowed massive amounts of Jews to enter that country in spite of their track record of turning against their hosts. A country is doomed to fail when their media, entertainment and political funding (among other things) is mainly controlled by an aggressive tiny minority who views the traditional people as a threat. There is simply to large of a gap between where whites need to be and where they are to salvage the country.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 04, 2018 11:26 AM  

When Ulysses finally did come home, he found the place filled up with uninvited guests who had overstayed their welcome. And he had to kill them all.

Blogger JaimeInTexas June 04, 2018 11:37 AM  

@67. Doug Cranmer
That "sending them back" helps you to get rid of insufferable in-laws is icing on the cake.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 04, 2018 11:52 AM  

Shane Sullivan wrote:
@2 The Progressive Government of America was arguably more to the left of Stalin's Regime at that time, so it's not surprising we aided them.

To be fair to the Queen, English Monarchs haven't possessed real power since the Stuarts.


True. Koba the Dread argued for "Socialism in one country". FDR and his fellow socialists were more of the Internationalist (= Globalist) variety. As for the British Monarchy, yes it was pretty much over as far as any serious power after the Restoration, especially once the (((Bankstas of England))) took root like a malignant tumor.

The very strange thing about the whole disaster VD refers to in this rather Kiplingesque post (as in The Gods of the Copybook Headings) is that whites are literally the only folks on the planet who deny their identity and its value. It's really a kind of spiritual sickness. Even in bloody South Africa, the Afrikaners don't value their identity enough to spill the blood of the dindus who openly boast of exterminating them - and have the hands permanently stained with the blood of thousands of farmers are their families to back it up. Boers still serve the ANC regime there in the police and the military. Even the Afrikaner 'nationalist' Terreblanche preferred to hire dindu farmworkers instead of going to the white squatter camps - and they ended up killing him to the cheers of the globohomo (((media))). The Anglo component there seems have always been in the service of the (((Spawn of Satan))). This is the reason a number on the right have placed the blame on Christianity. It's a massive oversimplification of course but there are scarcely any folks calling themselves Christian in white countries who do not reject identity. The Judeo-Christ idol and the Gospel of Galatians 3:28 are demonic doctrines less than 300 years old.

The Judeo-Christ form of Devil Worship seems to be largely confined in the homeland of the Banana Empire, while the Gospel of Galatians variety has taken over elsewhere (though it also has much presence in Kwa-Bananaland). In Sweden, where the natives always seem to embrace the latest and most extreme form of suicide-cult, the clergy no longer even refers to God as male. If one were a young white Swede who actually embraced your own Swedish identity, even Islam would offer a better long-term chance of survival than the utter farce which calls itself Christianity there.

Blogger Brett baker June 04, 2018 11:55 AM  

Quit providing vaccines so they don't have a larger percentage of the population reach reproductive age.

Blogger Fernando Negro June 04, 2018 11:58 AM  

@44

I've played all-Portuguese teams. The only teams that are more hot-headed and worse-behaved are Albanians and Turks.

I don't know what's the sport in question. But, anyway, being "hot-headed" or behaving badly at sports, doesn't necessarily mean that they are as much uncivilized people in society, in general, also. When I say that Portuguese people are highly civilized, I'm talking about the crime rate, and such.

(Until the borders in Europe were open,) Portugal had always been one of the safest countries on Earth. Were, being a country of people with a Latin culture, yes, you could more easily see verbal altercations, or such, but seldom witness any serious crime (including violence). Portuguese people are very much like *children*, when compared to Northern Europeans. Yes, they can behave much more badly. But, that's pretty much what they'll do.

(And, we even get shocked with how easily British nationals get into serious fights, at bars and such...)

(From what I know, the following situation as evolved recently, because of the great increase of tourism in Portugal, that also caused a great increase of pickpocketers from abroad. But,)

Until recently, there was even a curious phenomenon, related to the way that crime had increased, around here, when the borders where open. Which was that, whenever tourists went to complain to the Police, in Lisbon, that their wallet was stolen, the Police would ask is they had been physicality assaulted in the process, of if it had been done "by stealth". And, the reason for such was that, if they had been physically assaulted, then it had been the work of Eastern European immigrants, and if they hadn't noticed anything, then they had been the victim of Portuguese pickpocketers.

But they ALWAYS support their home team in Portugal instead of wherever it is that they live.

Yes, most definitely. Another big Portuguese trait. Even the children of Portuguese immigrants abroad, including the ones who cannot speak their parent's language, support - and, some of them, even decide to be part of - the Portuguese national team. Family is very much important in Portuguese culture. (British immigrants in the south of Portugal describe us as "very family-oriented".) So, the first Portuguese descendants feel much more attached to their "ethnicity" than the country they were born in. And, a funny way to spot that kind of Portuguese even, is to observe the national team's players that (for the reason I stated in a previous comment) have a foreign first name.

(And, another funny thing to observe, is how, for example, a Paris policeman (which enforces the authority of the French state) undoubtedly and without reservations, tells his colleagues that he will support Portugal (against France) in the coming international football championship.)

As I said, Portuguese people may integrate (in terms of local social rules) very well, but the first generations don't forget, and keep emotionally attached to, where they came from.

Blogger Brett baker June 04, 2018 12:07 PM  

Quit providing vaccines so they don't have a larger percentage of the population reach reproductive age.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 04, 2018 12:34 PM  

People also conveniently forget that royals were among the first traitorous globalists and that marriages between the ruling classes of different nations often resulted in foreigners sitting on a throne. If an English king had ruled England at the time, perhaps the American Revolution wouldn't have even happened.

Blogger Lance E June 04, 2018 12:35 PM  

The fallacy is that they fought in the great wars to prevent this, and their governments betrayed them. In fact, they fought (many unknowingly, of course) in the great wars to implement this. They wanted to spread the light of Liberal Democracy to the whole world. Well, they got their wish, defeated all of its significant enemies, and now there is no one left who knows how to run a functional town, let alone a functional country.

Blogger Jack Amok June 04, 2018 12:35 PM  

People also conveniently forget that royals were among the first traitorous globalists and that marriages between the ruling classes of different nations often resulted in foreigners sitting on a throne. If an English king had ruled England at the time, perhaps the American Revolution wouldn't have even happened.

German kings are bad enough for Germans, let alone anyone else.

Blogger Fernando Negro June 04, 2018 12:42 PM  

@61

But that is why they will never be American, French, or Eskimos.

I'm only talking about the very first generations. I never heard of anyone of 3rd generation or above (i.e. distant) Portuguese descendancy culturally identifying as Portuguese.

The particular Portuguese cultural tendency, in terms of interactions with other cultures, is to assimilate and be assimilated (check "Luso-tropicalism"). That is, Portuguese people are traditionally very open to foreign cultures. And, by following the motto of "When in Rome, do as the Romans do", they also end up integrating, after only a very few generations.

As to, how well is that social integration (ultimately) made... One would have to make social studies, I guess... And, that's what you gave me of most interesting to reflect about, in the case of the USA.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 04, 2018 12:47 PM  

Fernando Negro wrote:I never heard of anyone of 3rd generation or above (i.e. distant) Portuguese descendancy culturally identifying as Portuguese.
Then you have never talked to my next-door neighbor, Rafael.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 04, 2018 12:53 PM  

The fact that there is no longer a cohesive American nation makes genuine assimilation impossible. All an immigrant can hope to do is assimilate into one of the factions competing for dominance, which is far less appealing than identifying with a functional and independent nation. It's a recipe for disaster.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma June 04, 2018 12:56 PM  

Hitler was right. That's why jews tricked stupid gentiles into fighting against him.

"In North America, where the population is prevalently Teutonic, and where those elements intermingled with the inferior race only to a very small degree, we have a quality of mankind and a civilization which are different from those of Central and South America.
In these latter countries the immigrants – who mainly belonged to the Latin races – mated with the aborigines, sometimes to a very large extent indeed. In this case we have a clear and decisive example of the effect produced by the mixture of races.
But in North America the Teutonic element, which has kept its racial stock pure and did not mix it with any other racial stock, has come to dominate the American Continent and will remain master of it as long as that element does not fall a victim to the habit of adulterating its blood."

--

"Now begins the great last revolution. In gaining political power the Jew casts off the few cloaks that he still wears. The democratic people's Jew becomes the blood-Jew and tyrant over peoples. In a few years he tries to exterminate the national intelligentsia and by robbing the peoples of their natural intellectual leadership makes them ripe for the slave's lot of permanent subjugation.

The most frightful example of this kind is offered by Russia, where he killed or starved about thirty million people with positively fanatical savagery, in part amid inhuman tortures, in order to give a gang of Jewish journalists and stock exchange bandits domination over a great people."

-- Hitler, Mein Kampf 1925

Blogger Fernando Negro June 04, 2018 1:20 PM  

Anyway, Vox Day,

I know were your big concern comes from... And, this is something that I have also previously reflected about. In their own original territories, at least, cultural traits take a long time to change. (This being the reason why I just want to leave my particular country - of very nice people, indeed, but the last ones that you can count on, to fight for Liberty.)

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams June 04, 2018 1:25 PM  

@89

If you're in Portugal, stay there. It's getting harder and harder to find the "American" part of America.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 04, 2018 1:28 PM  

Fernando Negro wrote:but the last ones that you can count on, to fight for Liberty.
Seems the people in your country would rather abandon the fight and leave than actually fight for anything.

Blogger Jeshurun June 04, 2018 1:35 PM  

America was doomed the instant she was formed when she allowed foreigners to hold positions of power. Does a muslim rule among Catholics or does a Christian rule among Jews in Israel? They sure don't. Does a Buddhist monk sit as a cardinal in the Vatican?

The error can be found in the foundation (One of many to be sure but a great mistake indeed). This is what God does in His Divine Wisdom when He sees that they will not follow His ways and break His covenant. You are aware that America is under the curse of God? (Western Europe has it and will have it even worse though)

Blogger Cloom Glue June 04, 2018 1:36 PM  

I am reading the Old Testament from the beginning, in order, and those numerous wars have convinced me of the ethnic identity of nations; not borders and not sets of laws and not equality and the ethnic separation is justified by God.

Here is my gathering of information about the multi-culture failed experiment of British Guyana South America. I think it is interesting and related to the post.

Some is from my contact with East Indian Guyanese. Apparently the bulk of the mass immigration there was late 1800s although the colony was established by Sir Walter Raleigh early 1600s and some false abundant-gold stories he planted to attract people and he was jailed and executed in Britain for it.

Apparently, Britain mixed white British, black Africans and East Indians and Portuguese and some Chinese peoples. At independance, rumblings 1950s to completion 1966, Guyana degenerated into two communist minded political parties (PNC, PPP, both of which attended Cuba Castro's funeral), one predominately black and one mostly East Indian and the whites fled back to Britain; Chinese and Portuguese are minor components. There are Chinese-Guyanese restaurants in my Canada town; weird.

My several Guyanese Indian contacts repeatedly say their problem was not their communism, but lack of imports because the communist black leader was bad to stop imports. One Guyanese told me they still dislike the British sugar plantation companies, and the plantations are still majority owned by the leftist government, ... and by the way, are not operating. So there is no work, no income, but keep the imports coming in? Is that the thinking? They mostly worked too hard here in Canada, compared to Guyana, though, they say.

They are a contradiction of ideas and a culture clash with western civilisation capitalism; same British legal system, but different thinking, not white, not British, not western and I know they all vote Democrat in USA and Liberal in Canada and would destroy us, like they destroyed Guyana, if they had the numbers, which they do not by themselves (Guyana is 773,000 persons). They should blame themselves for Guyana's poor economy, but they do not. I think they heavily blame the blacks and blame white British.

Hindu Indian Guyanese oppose mass Middle-East and East Indian, Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, immigration to our Canadian town.

Hindu Indians from Caribbean are considered lowest caste by the incoming new foreigner Indian Canadians, who change tone when they hear the Guyanese accent, confused initially by Indian appearance; funny that.

Another related topic is whether the mass immigration is tipping the Ontario province election on Thursday, by mosque friction, homo sex ed, although that anger is unmentioned in the campaigns.

Angry Canadian mood had the incumbent Liberal leader Saturday announced her acceptance of defeat due to the polls to either the full-leftists or the sorta conservatives/cuckservatives (three way race). The election is coming Thursday June 7.

Has a leader ever pre-announced defeat? Some grumbling liberals say she is doing self-centred behaviour since the elections are about the Liberal party workers, not the leader, but I note she is a diabolical narcissist, and of course it is all about her. Look what she did to her husband and children when she turned herself homo.

Blogger Jeshurun June 04, 2018 1:48 PM  

Should a Catholic have been allowed to rule or hold any office of power or influence in America? (This is what God means when He says to take them as servants (let them be a manager at a car wash, dish washer at mcdonalds, boss of kmart or what have you...) but don't let them be mayor, governor, sit on your town councils or event worse, senator or President!


Has anyone ever thought about this and if so, what do you think? (I singled out Catholics but you can substitute any people really. If America is a representative government shouldn't my 'representative' hold the same values and share the same culture I do? Not hate me...)

Blogger Lovekraft June 04, 2018 1:54 PM  

68 Brick: "Did I miss something, Vox? What specifically prompted your post today?"

Apart from VD mentioning the anniversary are Churchill's speech, I submit that this post (as forceful and blunt a one as VD has posted here - and I've been here since the beginning) is to head off or neutralize the Jordanites who use psychiatry new age babble to confuse and corrupt. VD has declared the terms of this debate.

Portugese in Canada are opportunists, a closed community of mainly laborers and home builders. Polite, clean homes. But not people who stood up against the immigrant waves and have planned for an exodus when things get hot.

I think we are at a point post-Obama where an entire new dynamic and axis of public/political discourse is taking root. Man has gone through this countless times and one has to step back and watch this unfold. I've seen the Official Victims cry wolf so many times. They are simply rackets, distracting and obstructing from our struggles.

I suspect many people have been red-pilled but haven't the language to process and react, due to entrenched cultural marxist education and lugenpresse.


Early scene from "Charge of the Light Brigage" (movie from the 60s). The protagonist is seen with his love, all doey-eyed. Then the next scene is when this young soldier is face to face with his commanding officer who is on a galactic level of assholery. The look in the young soldier's eyes stuck with me in how all life left them, only suppresed hatred remained. Westerners are getting there. The question remains whether we'll repeat the past and let the cabal bankers and cowards coax us into fighting for empty promises.

Blogger One Deplorable DT June 04, 2018 2:22 PM  

Fine. I have no intellectual respect or regard for anyone who rejects what I am saying because it gives them a sad or because it offends their ego, their ideology, or their tribal identities.

And while some may leave because of this, the rest of us stay because of this.

I don't always agree with you Vox. But I am always confident that your motive is the truth. There are few writers I can say that about today.

(For the record, I do agree with today's post.)

Blogger D. Bay June 04, 2018 2:38 PM  

"To this very day, most of you still don't see any problem at all with tens of millions of fellow citizens born American in China, India, Iran, Mexico, Nigeria, and Portugal."

Portugal? Have to disagree with you on that last nation. That's a European nation (like Spain). That would make them European Americans.

Blogger D. Bay June 04, 2018 2:39 PM  

"Hammurabi"

As I recall that was also the name of an old text related video game.

Blogger Sheila4g June 04, 2018 2:42 PM  

@11 VD: "Apparently, yes. Had Hitler merely been smart enough to send women and children across the English Channel, he would have won the war. Who knew it was that easy?"

I read your post and this comment to my spouse, and he rejoined that actually, Hitler should have loaded up the Jews and gypsies and sent them across the channel. Interesting thought experiment.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 04, 2018 2:44 PM  

D. Bay wrote:Portugal? Have to disagree with you on that last nation. That's a European nation (like Spain). That would make them European Americans.
And you don't see a problem with that. Just like Vox said in the snippet you quoted.
Until you see the problem with that, you're not an American.
You have to go back.

Blogger Peaceful Poster June 04, 2018 2:49 PM  

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Blogger Ceerilan June 04, 2018 3:35 PM  

@Jeshrun
I think your question should be rephrased as "can a Catholic ever be truly loyal to and understanding of a primarily Protestant nation and culture?".

Blogger Flair1239 June 04, 2018 3:41 PM  

It seems to me that Eastern Europe and Russia will
Come out of this scenario lookin pretty good. Russia supposedly has been hoarding gold as well. They may come through this with an intact culture, moral high ground, and a real currency.

Blogger Thebrainfuggler June 04, 2018 3:42 PM  

Mom's always been the race realist in the family. And she's turned out to be correct

Blogger Raging Papist June 04, 2018 3:45 PM  

@VD

When you say some authors won't publish with you, its not John C. right? Maybe its inappropriate to ask, but I hope he would never pull out from Castalia due to political disagreement. My prayer is that he comes around at some point to the the actual Right.

Blogger tublecane June 04, 2018 3:46 PM  

"a much bigger invasion than they faced from the Wehrmacht"

It's misleading to even compare the two. The British didn't really face invasion in WWII, despite the Finest Hour Myth. And they wouldn't have been at war at all but for their interest in holding the Germans down and maintaining their empire.

The former of which they accomplished only at the expense of handing over much of Europe to the at least equally evil Soviets. The latter they lost anyway.

Blogger Lovekraft June 04, 2018 3:58 PM  

The main cabal of communists (The Frankfurt School) migrated to the west in the 30s and 40s and started their infiltration of academia, courts, politics.

The subsequent great immigration surges were simply to provide cover and overwhelm.

Blogger DonReynolds June 04, 2018 4:09 PM  

Winston Churchill will probably always be better thought of in the USA than he ever will be in the UK. Recall....he was voted out of office while attending the Potsdam Conference in July 1945 (and was replaced by the new PM immediately). The British obviously had lost confidence in Winston before the war was over.

But Vox is correct, of course. The imbalance we are experiencing is not a permanent condition. Yes, the pendulum does swing both ways and I tremble at what that might bring for ALL of us.

Unlike the minor corrections of my own lifetime, it will not be possible for anyone to stay completely out of it, park on the couch, and watch it all on television. Every person will be pressganged into joining one side or the other. No one will be exempted and they will not give a hoot which side you prefer. Either you are with us or you are against us. Your personal beliefs and preferences do not matter much when you have a gun barrel to the back of your head. Comply or drop where you stand. Pretty convincing.

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 4:10 PM  

When you say some authors won't publish with you, its not John C. right?

Given that we just published one of his books today, I should think it is evident that I am not referring to the esteemed John C. Wright.

Blogger Robert What? June 04, 2018 4:12 PM  

Would it really have been worse if the Germans and the Nazis had won WW2? I don't see how it could have been. Probably much better. Like WW1, WW2 was largely a tragic White on White fratricide. Actually the ultimate winners of WW2 were the Jews.

Blogger tublecane June 04, 2018 4:13 PM  

"If the U.S. soldiers who went overseas to fight against the Germans and Japanese had any idea what their sacrifices would eventually entail, both at home and abroad, they wouldn't have been willing to go"

Patriotic sentiment persists, but I have a hard time putting myself in the mindset of 1940s America, when men classified as 4F killed themselves out of shame. Despite the fact that I was of prime fighting age when the Pearl Harbor-ish 9/11 happened, and there's a tradition of service in my family (great-uncle Brigadier General, both grandpas WWII heroes, father had orders to go to Vietnam but got shipped to Germany instead, etc.). As in many families.

Think of the squandered nationalism. What would you call it? That romantic feeling described in Scott Fitzgerald's Tender Is the Night, when he described all the little things that pushed the soldiers forward on the battlefields of the Great War. Bouncing on Grandpa's knee, and so forth. What was it spent on?

Think of Germany, especially. After the devastation of the previous war, the dissipation of degenerate Weimar culture, as well as runaway inflation and depression, there was such a tremendous outpouring of energy. The Nazis tapped into a wellspring of national pathos that nearly gobbled up Europe.

To their doom. Because the nation was ruined, their women raped. Millions dead, dishonor. trifurcation, generations of occupation. Damn the Nazis for misusing that passion.

Damn the FDR administration for expending our people's passion on...what? The China market? Our Eastern imperial holdings? Stopping economic renegade Germany? Bringing glory to the Soviet empire?

All that, but conquering the world through midcentury consensus liberalism, perhaps the least romantic political ideal ever.

Blogger ikacer June 04, 2018 4:15 PM  

Jack Amok:"But why must the pendulum swing back?

"Because of this:

"[...]

"After a while, society is riven by factions, no longer prosperous, and there is no longer money to paper over the chaos."

If isolated, I think you would be right, but with globalism our rulers are no longer part of any one society. Even if England were to collapse into a third-world hellhole the rulers would survive and remain in power. To escape this would require a strong opposition, which factions make less likely. Once the diversity reaches a tipping point where the induced conflict is sufficient to prevent any strong opposition, the system seems quite stable.

So rather than the swing back being inevitable, there might be only a small window in which it is even possible.

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VD: "You don't understand what the pendulum is. It has nothing to do with Anglo-Americans, it has to do with social mood and mindset. There is no guarantee the heritage Americans will end up on top. For all we know, it could be the Chinese who win the grand prize."

Implying the Chinese will take over the transnational corporations and replace our current leaders? Or perhaps that a nationalistic China will come to be the one world power? It's unclear what you mean and my expectation is that your model is flawed and you are thereby confused.

The Chinese are an alien people and the two power structures are (or were) disjointed. To keep with the pendulum analogy, it would be as if you had clock with a pendulum stuck to the left and you pulled it off the wall and replaced with a clock with a pendulum stuck to the right. Sure the pendulum is now on the right but that is irrelevant and any model describing the motion of a pendulum totally misses what actually occurred.

There is no single "social mood and mindset" in such a system that could be described by a single pendulum.

Blogger VD June 04, 2018 4:19 PM  

Implying the Chinese will take over the transnational corporations and replace our current leaders? Or perhaps that a nationalistic China will come to be the one world power? It's unclear what you mean and my expectation is that your model is flawed and you are thereby confused.

No. And no. There is nothing unclear about it at all. You're too stupid to read or comment here. Go away now.

Blogger Alphaeus June 04, 2018 4:22 PM  

"The British obviously had lost confidence in Winston before the war was over."

What I can't understand is why Winston had any confidence in the stupid British. If Winston had any sense he would have seen that they were not worth saving. Obviously he was sentimental about them.

Blogger DonReynolds June 04, 2018 4:23 PM  

Sheila4g wrote:@11 VD: "Apparently, yes. Had Hitler merely been smart enough to send women and children across the English Channel, he would have won the war. Who knew it was that easy?"

I read your post and this comment to my spouse, and he rejoined that actually, Hitler should have loaded up the Jews and gypsies and sent them across the channel. Interesting thought experiment.


Not really an experiment, but a historical fact. Hitler offered to sell the Jews (and others) to the Allies during the war for $250 each. There was no reason for him to keep them. They were worth very little and they were an expense. The Allies refused repeated offers, NOR would they accept but a few refugees for free. The truth was, they did not want them either.....including the USA.

At one point, Hitler considered moving them all to Madagascar, off the east Afrika coast, access to which he acquired with the Fall of France in 1940. The British naval blockade rendered this operation impossible.

But more to the point, the people running the UK today are not the same people who were running the UK in the 1940s. Try to invade the UK with women and children in the 1940s and they would have be slaughtered at the waters edge and the survivors thrown into prison camps for the duration. They had that ability.

Blogger Rhys June 04, 2018 4:27 PM  

All of this makes me think that imperialism was one of the dumbest things Europe ever did. Much like in a murder conspiracy, the event of the actual murder always sows the seeds of guilt in at least one of the conspirators, who will eventually testify and bring all of them down at once. I have to wonder if the word "racist" would even have any effect if the European nations stayed together in their own borders.

Blogger tublecane June 04, 2018 4:41 PM  

@116- Considered the fact that "racist" was coined centuries after Europe started colonizing the world, I don't see an necessary connection. And I don't see the likelihood that China, for instance, will develop a sense of racial guilt after its overseas conquest gets underway in earnest.

There may be something to the sense that living amongst foreigners and having them fight in your armed forces leads to the sort of sentiment that allows one to be invaded. But there's no necessary connection, and I think overall it's fairly tenuous.

Blogger Elliot Rodger June 04, 2018 4:47 PM  

For a Biblical solution to the problem, check out 1 Samuel 18.

Anti-racist whites are being murdered by their beloved diversity, each getting a two-minute mention on the local news, and those who make it to old age have few if any grandchildren. Why bother having kids when your DNA is no better than that of a naked African with a bone through his nose?

We may well see in this century a world where white men demonstrate their worthiness to rule by killing nonwhites and collecting their genitalia as proof.

Blogger Robert What? June 04, 2018 5:17 PM  

Pithy comments. The American population (at that time 90% White?) were just plain duped into fighting a pointless war. But at that time they believed in their government ... that their leaders were men of honor. We hopefully won't make that mistake again.

Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion June 04, 2018 5:57 PM  

I am quite certain that somebody is going to reenact "The White Plague" by frank herbert.

Herbert was brilliant and that book should be required reading.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf June 04, 2018 7:42 PM  

It shouldn't be too difficult to pass a law that requires all welfare recipients undergo voluntary and temporarily sterilization in exchange for tax payer provided benefits.

Blogger dienw June 04, 2018 7:50 PM  

Ceerilan wrote:@Jeshrun

I think your question should be rephrased as "can a Catholic ever be truly loyal to and understanding of a primarily Protestant nation and culture?".


Bingo. Now, can any serious Protestant join with Roman Catholics to wage a war against the Mexican invaders who are themselves Roman Catholics knowing the wholesale slaughter the papists engage in against all who do not or will not accept the Babylonian mystery religion? The answer is no.

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 04, 2018 8:01 PM  

The Germans were trying to save western civilization.

There. I said it.

Blogger Daniel June 04, 2018 8:10 PM  

Isn't Portugal that Spain's province where they speak Brazilian?

Blogger tublecane June 04, 2018 8:22 PM  

@121- One generation of layabouts is enough, let alone how many we've had.

Blogger Alphaeus June 04, 2018 8:36 PM  

"I think your question should be rephrased as "can a Catholic ever be truly loyal to and understanding of a primarily Protestant nation and culture?"
As a matter of loyalty and trust, absolutely not. But if you remember your history of the 30 Years War 1618-1648 which gave us the Peace of Westphalia system, religion and nationality got all mixed up and confused, to the surprise of everyone. Neither the Catholics nor the Protestants reliably stuck together. And don't get me started about the alliances that Christians made with Muslims against their fellow Christians later on.
I think that migration in and of itself is the problem. I don't want any immigration, not from Protestant countries, not from Catholic, not from Eastern Orthodox, Islamic, Buddhist, Confucian, Shinto, Voodoo, Atheist, I want nobody from nowhere to come to my country no how.

Blogger Lucas Evans June 04, 2018 8:45 PM  

@Doktor Jeep

Yes they were. We could have let them defeat the communists without formally allying with them. Instead, we saved the communists from their deserved fate and our current society is our just reward.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas June 04, 2018 8:58 PM  

"It seems to me that Eastern Europe and Russia will
Come out of this scenario lookin pretty good. Russia supposedly has been hoarding gold as well. They may come through this with an intact culture, moral high ground, and a real currency."

Russia's population currently has a higher percentage of Muslims than any country in Europe and their military is set to be majority Muslim quite soon, if nothing changes.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas June 04, 2018 9:00 PM  

^ Well, not including Albania, Bosnia, and Kosovo, etc.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) June 04, 2018 9:24 PM  

39. Fernando Negro June 04, 2018 9:42 AM
As a Portuguese myself, I'm curious about the inclusion of my country on the list.


Sarah Hoyt is Portuguese.

she married an American and immigrated to the United States.

she claims that she was "born more American" than the vast majority of Natural Born Americans.

there's been a go round betwixt her and Vox.


99. Sheila4g June 04, 2018 2:42 PM
I read your post and this comment to my spouse, and he rejoined that actually, Hitler should have loaded up the Jews and gypsies and sent them across the channel.



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Blogger James Dixon June 04, 2018 10:37 PM  

> "STUPIDITY IS DEATH."

You do realize you paraphrasing Heinlein don't you?

"Stupidity cannot be cured. Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death. There is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.” ― Robert A. Heinlein

> Does a Buddhist monk sit as a cardinal in the Vatican?

Give them time.

> I don't always agree with you Vox. But I am always confident that your motive is the truth.

Always. I've never known that not to be the case. Vox's sense of humor has been known to obscure the matter on occasion though.

Blogger ikacer June 05, 2018 12:29 AM  

VD: "No. And no. There is nothing unclear about it at all. You're too stupid to read or comment here. Go away now."

Then this will be my last comment here. I'm actually glad of your response as it clarifies an idea I had been entertaining. I think your theories on the effects of IQ gap on communication are wrong. By IQ I'm actually slightly smarter than you, though fairly similar. My working hypothesis is that the 30 point IQ gap in communication doesn't really affect things as it can be bridged by adjustments by the smarter party, but also that there remains an optimum in persuasiveness at around 20 points. I also think you are mistaking your ability to be persuasive with your ability to communicate, as the average reader here is probably about 20 points lower than you. As intelligence diverges from the mid 130s in either direction, I'd expect readers to be increasing critical of your arguments.

One thing of note in the article that presents the theory of high IQ exclusion due to a communications breakdown is that under it there is an excellent comment by Gwern which points out that the strongest piece of evidence in favor of the theory is wrong. Basically he observes that the drop off of the normal distribution is severe enough that it overwhelms any sort of communications exclusion factor you could add to the model. He shows that even if you assume that higher IQ is always beneficial, increasing linearly, it still fits the data just as well. Of course it doesn't disprove the theory, it just means there is very little evidence supporting it, so adjust your beliefs accordingly.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 05, 2018 12:51 AM  

@ikacer,
The problem is not an iQ gap. The problem is you're a giant fagget.

Blogger Mar Go June 05, 2018 1:16 AM  

Vox, i'm fairly certain that most immigrants in europe will pack their bags and leave once it gets rough economically and politically(proximity to their homelands helps). Do you think it will be the same for the US?

Blogger VD June 05, 2018 4:24 AM  

Then this will be my last comment here. I'm actually glad of your response as it clarifies an idea I had been entertaining. I think your theories on the effects of IQ gap on communication are wrong.

Again, you demonstrate that you have no place here and that you have understood nothing. The theory of the IQ communications gap are not mine.

Nothing you have said has been of any relevance here. So, go away and stay gone.

Blogger VD June 05, 2018 4:24 AM  

Do you think it will be the same for the US?

No, there are far too many.

Blogger Johnny June 05, 2018 8:29 AM  

Cloom Glue wrote:My several Guyanese Indian contacts repeatedly say their problem was not their communism, but lack of imports because the communist black leader was bad to stop imports. One Guyanese told me they still dislike the British sugar plantation companies, and the plantations are still majority owned by the leftist government, ... and by the way, are not operating.
It is amazing sometimes, just how stupid people can be. Let me guess: The sugar company exports earned the money needed to import. So, shutting down the companies shuts down the imports.

Blogger Alphaeus June 05, 2018 9:34 AM  

"> "STUPIDITY IS DEATH." You do realize you paraphrasing Heinlein don't you?
"Stupidity cannot be cured. Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death. There is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.” ― Robert A. Heinlein"

Thanks, I should have known it was a Heinleinian concept, it's been a long time since I read him so I couldn't place where I got the idea. But no doubt the idea did not originate with him either. I'm sure that it was one cave man explaining to another cave man that the reason some other cave man got eaten by a sabre tooth tiger was because he was stupid.

And Heinlein's quote is too long to fit on a bumper sticker.

Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion June 05, 2018 12:46 PM  

Satan has always been a lousy boss. The company retirement plan is absolute s#!+, too.

Blogger Expendable Faceless Minion June 05, 2018 1:08 PM  

I predict a muslim Pope this century.

Blogger Argus Bacchus June 05, 2018 5:48 PM  

@135 VD

"So, go away and stay gone."

Like anyone gives a fuck when some attention whore announces that it's his "last comment."

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 05, 2018 6:05 PM  

Expendable Faceless Minion wrote:Satan has always been a lousy boss. The company retirement plan is absolute s#!+, too.

I've heard the retirees think it's hot stuff!

Blogger Argus Bacchus June 05, 2018 6:16 PM  

@140


"I predict a muslim Pope this century."

That's about as likely as the US electing a President who's secretly Muslim.

Heh.

Blogger Andrea Daley Utronebel June 05, 2018 11:14 PM  

British were educated and conditioned to be deferential and obedient to authority.

So, when British elites in the past told the British masses to invade and rule over others, Brits did just that.

Now that British elites tell British masses to submit to Third World Invasion, the masses are once again doing as told.

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