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Saturday, June 30, 2018

US out of Germany

This would be most excellent news indeed. Having noticed that WWII is over and the Soviet Union is no more, the God-Emperor is talking about shutting down the US bases in Germany and bringing the troops home.
Donald Trump is considering scaling down or withdrawing the US military from Germany, according to a report ahead of the NATO leaders’ meeting. The US president has blasted allies for chipping in too little to the bloc’s budget.

The decision to explore the option of pulling 35,000 US troops out of Germany came after Trump floated the idea during a meeting with White House and military aides, the Washington Post reported on Friday, citing government officials who spoke on condition of anonymity. The president was reportedly frustrated by the fact that Germany and other NATO allies don’t pay their “fair share” into the budget of the alliance.

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
 ....Germany pays 1% (slowly) of GDP towards NATO, while we pay 4% of a MUCH larger GDP. Does anybody believe that makes sense? We protect Europe (which is good) at great financial loss, and then get unfairly clobbered on Trade. Change is coming!
Except the US obviously is not protecting Europe from anyone. All those expensive troops on location didn't help Germany avoid invasion by 1.6 million migrants, so obviously there is no reason for them to be there anymore.

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63 Comments:

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 30, 2018 1:14 PM  

Trump was also reportedly looking at pulling the US out of the WTO. That was quickly downplayed as rumor and innuendo, though...

Blogger Crew June 30, 2018 1:16 PM  

Put them on the southern border!

Blogger Ransom Smith June 30, 2018 1:23 PM  

Trump pulls out of Germany .
Empty bases
Germans take over empty bases
Find box marked "to Angela from Donald"
Open it up
Empty box, with one single starburts at the bottom
And it's an orange one.

Blogger Jack Ward June 30, 2018 1:25 PM  

May be the prelude to garrisoning the southern border. Hail the GE!

Blogger seeingsights June 30, 2018 1:29 PM  

I stand with Jack Ward!

Blogger #7139 June 30, 2018 1:34 PM  

About time. Should’ve done it 25 years ago.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 30, 2018 1:38 PM  

Better late than never.

Blogger Ledford Ledford June 30, 2018 1:46 PM  

But think of the camp followers....

Looking at this plus the Ocasio-Cortez primary victory, the neoliberal order now has few friends on either the left or right. There is almost no center of hard power they can call on, unless May and Macron can gin up another Suez crisis. No politician openly campaigns on their platform. Bad times for them.

Blogger L' Aristokrato June 30, 2018 1:46 PM  

"Having noticed that WWII is over..."
Someone should tell Hollywood.

Blogger Anno Ruse June 30, 2018 1:48 PM  

35,000? I thought we had a couple thousand over there as a token show of force. I didn't realize it was a goddamn standing army. Hopefully this is high on Trump's priority list. What a waste.

Blogger ZhukovG June 30, 2018 1:48 PM  

If we reach a point where the GE decides it is time to act decisively against the 'Swamp', I would expect to see a series of closely spaced troop movements. The intent being to concentrate as many active duty troops on American soil as possible, in order to suppress Leftist resistance.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Imperator Trump!

Blogger Salt June 30, 2018 1:50 PM  

The Germans can use the empty bases to store the invaders.

Blogger James June 30, 2018 1:54 PM  

Salt wrote:The Germans can use the empty bases to store the invaders.

The Germans can use the empty bases to teach the invaders the proper European way to rape women.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 30, 2018 2:16 PM  

Except the US obviously is not protecting Europe from anyone. All those expensive troops on location didn't help Germany avoid invasion by 1.6 million migrants, so obviously there is no reason for them to be there anymore.

Send them home. The Banana Empire legion would likely be ordered to crush any who objected too much to the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan to genocide the native Euro populace should sufficient numbers of those targeted wake up to reality. Trump's statement adds to the evidence that the God-Emperor is finally taking command of at least some of the legions. Even so it seems that segments continue to take their marching orders from the Deep-State.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 30, 2018 2:23 PM  

I actually linked to the wrong article in the previous (though it was somewhat related, but pertained more to the State Dept., which is still owned by Deep State). The article about US military aiding invaders is here: US Navy lands rapefugees in Italy.

Blogger Avalanche June 30, 2018 2:24 PM  

@10 "35,000? I thought we had a couple thousand over there as a token show of force. I didn't realize it was a goddamn standing army."

A possible concern might that Germany is where we send our seriously wounded guys from the Middle East and Afghanistan for treatment or stabilization before sending them on to the States.

Or, hey! Here's an idea: let's stop letting them get HURT where they shouldn't be in the first place, and we won't need to bring them to the second place (Ramstein)for Western care: they'll already BE home!

U.S. OUT of NATO!

Blogger Mark Stoval June 30, 2018 2:31 PM  

16. Avalanche

I stand with Avalanche on this one. (Sorry Jack Ward)

Blogger tuberman June 30, 2018 2:33 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:If we reach a point where the GE decides it is time to act decisively against the 'Swamp', I would expect to see a series of closely spaced troop movements. The intent being to concentrate as many active duty troops on American soil as possible, in order to suppress Leftist resistance.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Imperator Trump!


Probably be referred to as the "White Squall" end to the Storm?!

Blogger Ceerilan June 30, 2018 2:39 PM  

In the current mindset, standing armies are only good for protecting against other armies and cleaning up natural disasters. And our enlightened European allies scoffed at us sending an aircraft carrier to southeast Asia to help disaster relief there.

Blogger Jack Ward June 30, 2018 2:48 PM  

17. Mark Stoval

I, too, stand with Avalanche, and, I stand with you standing with me. I guess. What the heck, lets all stand with The Donald, and pray for all those political goodies we have been missing each decade for too damn long.

Blogger Miguel June 30, 2018 3:02 PM  

I was thinking the same

Blogger van helsing June 30, 2018 3:02 PM  

well, we could have our crew help clear the immivaders out of there on the way out...

Blogger Mark Stoval June 30, 2018 3:05 PM  

"... lets all stand with The Donald, and pray for all those political goodies we have been missing each decade for too damn long. " ~ Jack

Amen brother, amen.

I pray for family, friends, and our culture all the time. Prayer for The Donald is a big part of that of course.

I also find there are some really good people who make comments here. I am thankful for all of them. You are in that group of course. :-)

Blogger Brett baker June 30, 2018 3:15 PM  

Next, the GE will be pointing out the real threat to the post-WWII world is China.
And if you thought the elites were going crazy with the pull out of NATO talk......

Blogger Brett baker June 30, 2018 3:15 PM  

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Blogger Johnny June 30, 2018 3:21 PM  

When the USSR started falling apart, what a shame Bush II didn't start reducing our commitment, instead of expanding it.

Blogger cheddarman June 30, 2018 3:32 PM  

I will believe it
when I see it

Blogger Wormwood June 30, 2018 3:49 PM  

No more paid vacations in Deutschland for lucky GIs? Oh well, at least I got mine.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart June 30, 2018 3:52 PM  

I am German and I approve of this message.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart June 30, 2018 3:53 PM  

Ceterum censeo Merkel muss weg.

Blogger Othello June 30, 2018 3:54 PM  

The god emperor is the best. He’s gaslighting the left.

Make him the face of money already.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 30, 2018 3:56 PM  

The Germans can use the empty bases to teach the invaders the proper European way to rape women.

Is that before or after teaching them how to use a toilet?

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 30, 2018 4:05 PM  

O/T Vox,

Your old buddy, the littlest Chickenhawk went on the Bill Mahr show & the left is giving Mahr crap about platforming him.
Shapiro said he might vote for Dems in the future if they "stop going crazy."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-gets-played-by-conservative-troll-ben-shapiro

Blogger J Curtis June 30, 2018 4:09 PM  

Wasn't this brought up on here before?

Why Poland wants a permanent US military base, and is willing to pay $2 billion for it

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 30, 2018 4:10 PM  

Sorry, O/T, again-

Pennsylvania teacher accused of "grooming" students. Last name is (((Metzger?))), which goes about 80-20 As being Ashkenazi.
The name means Butcher in English.

https://dailym.ai/2IExNcl

Blogger Dave June 30, 2018 4:57 PM  

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Blogger tz June 30, 2018 5:10 PM  

And another interesting tidbit is that Cortez has flipped on anti-war and a few other things apparently. Scott Adamas in his dilbert blog notes she is a persuader. But this might be even more interesting.

Meanwhile #WalkAway seems to have legs. To use another Adamsism, people are waking up that they are not in a "Return of Hitler and the Nazis" horror movie, and are more horrified of what the left has become.

Blogger Dave June 30, 2018 5:14 PM  

Troop related: Oldest veteran in US, 112, robbed of savings, identity, family says

(Beware: people on social media are linking to the existing GoFundme originally started in 2016 for Mr. Overton's in-home care. I'm waiting for another GoFundme to help replenish Mr. Overton's savings; ffs I can afford to throw him a few dollars, he's our oldest living vet and still smokes 12 cigars a day)

According to the family of Richard Overton, 112, a World War II veteran who lives in Austin, Texas, an unknown thief set up a fake bank account with Overton’s Social Security number and accessed his personal checking account, the Dallas Morning News reported.

Volna Overton, his third cousin, said the identity thief has for months been using Overton’s money to buy savings bonds.

“This is going to be a setback for Richard,” she said. “It was a significant amount of money.”

Overton’s bank account, however, is separate from a GoFundMe account that has been financing his in-home care since December 2016. The page has raised nearly $340,000.

Volma said a friend of Overton’s filed a police report Friday

Overton was verified as the oldest living man in America and the oldest U.S. veteran by the Gerontology Research Group.

According to the Morning News, Overton maintains a daily habit of 12 cigars and occasionally indulges in whiskey and cola.

Overton served in Hawaii and the South Pacific during World War II. He moved to East Austin in 1945 and has remained there ever since. He was honored one year in Washington, D.C., for Veteran’s Day by President Barack Obama.

Blogger English Tom June 30, 2018 5:36 PM  

@Jack Ward @Mark Stoval

United we stand!

Blogger allyn71 June 30, 2018 6:00 PM  

Those troops aren't there to protect the German nation, they are there to protect the German satrop in the Anglo-American empire. They are more likely to be used against the German people than to be used to defend them.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 30, 2018 6:01 PM  

And our enlightened European allies scoffed at us sending an aircraft carrier to southeast Asia to help disaster relief there.
They have no idea how much clean water and electricity a CV can generate.

Blogger eclecticme June 30, 2018 6:33 PM  

When Trump campaigned on playing nice with Russia and maybe withdrawing from NATO bilions of dollars were threatened. The military idustrial complex sprung into action and all we hear is Russia Russia. Dennis Kucinich nailed it.

Blogger eclecticme June 30, 2018 6:37 PM  

Americans died so that French and Germans could turn their country over to Muslims. What a waste of lives. If Europe cannot defend themselves from Africans in rubber boats they deserve to be over run.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 30, 2018 6:52 PM  

@33

"the left is giving Mahr crap about platforming him. "

The thing I hate the left for, more than anything else, is there constant abuse of the language in their never-ending quest to destroy it.

Blogger Cecil Henry June 30, 2018 7:41 PM  

@43:

No they don't deserve to be overrun. That's just rationalizing and justifying this crime. Their doing it in every Western nation, their doing it to my country, and the state has the guns pointed at anyone who objects.

Don't excuse the crime. Fight in the way you can.

Blogger SciVo June 30, 2018 8:12 PM  

What other low-hanging fruit of easy accomplishments are hanging around from inertia?

1. Ending the Korean War: in progress.

2. Ending the post-WWII occupation of Germany: proposed.

3. Are there archaic remnants of Reconstruction still oppressing the former CSA?

4. Can we admit that the U.N. is a failed experiment, stop giving them money, and move them from prime NY real estate to a bare-bones warehouse 100 miles outside of Topeka, just maintaining token membership for the Security Council veto? (Let "Nikki Haley" teleconference -- she has found her calling, and the only way to top the scorn of a dot-Indian girl is for her to not even bother to attend in person.)

5. How many Federal executive departments could Congress end tomorrow with easily net upside for outsiders, as matters properly in the domain of the States?

6. How many Federal lower courts could Congress rearrange, and how many judges impeach, to punish will-to-power renegades and restore the rule of written law?

7a. Build the wall.
7b. (Canada too.)

8. Deport them all.

9. Enforce blasphemy laws.

10. End the post-WWII occupation of Japan.

11. End the post-9/11 occupation of Afghanistan.

12+ [insert yours here]

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 30, 2018 8:38 PM  

Are there archaic remnants of Reconstruction still oppressing the former CSA?
Civil Rights Act.

Blogger Dire Badger June 30, 2018 9:12 PM  

@scivo:

12. Fire any police commissioner that fails to enforce 'incitement to riot' laws against protesters.
13. use 'precedent' to permit right of association for any business that is not incorporated or publicly traded.
14. file monopoly charges against multinationals and charge punishing duties against companies that outsource any foreign labor... or 'insource' h1b's or immigrants.
15. make hiring non-citizens a felony Inside of the US.

Blogger Dire Badger June 30, 2018 9:14 PM  

I dunno about low-hanging fruit, but dual citizenship has to end.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 30, 2018 11:01 PM  

@48 Dire Badger

"12. Fire any police commissioner that fails to enforce 'incitement to riot' laws against protesters."

President can't fire local police commissioners. However, he can INDICT THEM on federal charges, for Aiding and Abetting Insurrection.

Same goes for all of the sanctuary city police chiefs, mayors, and city council memberss.

Blogger CynicalMan June 30, 2018 11:07 PM  

Something I am sure many and possibly even Trump would consider a move long over due but more likely an opening position for an upcoming summit with Putin. It represents the extent to which Trump is willing to go if Putin reciprocates.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 30, 2018 11:16 PM  

"And it's an orange one."

Hey! Send me the orange ones if you don't like them.

"Someone should tell Hollywood."

"It's never over until we stop being paid to make movies about it. Movies about the Eternal War With Eastasia don't write themselves!"

Back on-topic, this seems like an excellent step by the god-emperor.

Blogger flyingtiger June 30, 2018 11:33 PM  

SciVo:#6: We have 57 immigration courts. What is their purpose? Unlike other crimes, immigration violations are easy to determine. You are either legal or illegal. A low level clerk can sign the orders for deportation.

Blogger James Dixon July 01, 2018 12:08 AM  

> Make him the face of money already.

Only if it's a gold or silver coin.

Blogger Starboard July 01, 2018 12:18 AM  

>> Make him the face of money already.

>Only if it's a gold or silver coin.

Gold. Definitely Gold.

Blogger Michael Maier July 01, 2018 12:40 AM  

eclecticme wrote:Americans died so that French and Germans could turn their country over to Muslims. What a waste of lives. If Europe cannot defend themselves from Africans in rubber boats they deserve to be over run.

My grandfathers's generation would have lauded the Muslim invasion, and denied it was so. So many of them were total f'ing idiots.

Blogger het1 July 01, 2018 1:28 AM  

@46

Beautiful!

Blogger Unknown July 01, 2018 7:44 AM  

Think about this. The plan was to keep V Corp in Germany forever as a euro stabilization force. Oops.....don't look now, all the posts in the US are at capacity due to BRAC. There is no room for the approx 35k troops. We'd have to reopen long closed forts or add on to some. Reopen Ft Dix? Build up Bening, Carson and Riley? Good luck with that, kids.

Blogger Ryan G July 01, 2018 10:22 AM  

@58 - It might be an organizational clusterfuck, but spreading 35k over existing installations is perfectly doable. You Army and AF guys are so cute with your ideas about personal space. Also, off base housing is a thing in most areas. Hell, there are so many vacancies here at Offutt that they're letting GS employees rent them. Heaven forbid non-married E4 and below be required to live in barracks, which hardly takes any room at all.

Blogger Ryan G July 01, 2018 10:25 AM  

@58 - Also, there's a whole lot of desert that federally owned. If for some bizarre reason the DOD is unable to distribute the load, it takes almost no time to setup a portable tent city.

Blogger Dexter July 01, 2018 11:08 AM  

35,000? I thought we had a couple thousand over there as a token show of force. I didn't realize it was a goddamn standing army.

It's not a standing army. It is about 21,000 Army and 13,000 Air Force. No main battle tanks. Few combat troops. Mostly logistics troops.

When the USSR started falling apart, what a shame Bush II didn't start reducing our commitment, instead of expanding it.

He did. Or more accurately, Clinton mostly did. The US had ~350,000 troops in Europe at the end of the Cold War, down from ~400,000 at the height of the Berlin Crisis in 1961.

www.eucom.mil/doc/35220/u-s-forces-in-europe

Blogger Patrick Wilson July 01, 2018 1:19 PM  

Prelude to moving to Poland?

Blogger Dirk Manly July 01, 2018 9:29 PM  

I can understand the Poles wanting U.S. troops based there... but since they're willing to pay for the troops to be based there, the UK should do it. Putting US troops so close to the CIS is NOT a good thing. It just ratchets up tensions needlessly (which is, I believe, what the Poles want).

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