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Thursday, June 21, 2018

Why is this relevant?


To Q or not to Q, that is the question. I know it is hard for a cynical, skeptical generation, but honestly, it's all right to hope. Hope is a virtue, it is not a weakness. It is worthwhile, even when it is not repaid.

After all, the VFM understood the concept of WWG1 even before it became a public battle cry.

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Blogger mark auld June 21, 2018 1:19 PM  

If Q is the real deal, we should know soon enough.

Blogger Richard Holmes June 21, 2018 1:23 PM  

It just seems so much as reaching for that elusive Q.

Blogger Richard Holmes June 21, 2018 1:26 PM  

But I agree. Big things are happening. I just can't really see where this is all going from my point of view. I have never seen such turmoil in this country. Makes the 60's look like childs play.
Everyone thought the 60's was so radical. Where will it go. I hope Trump gets on top of this. Our best outcome if he does.

Blogger Stilicho June 21, 2018 1:46 PM  

Things are definitely heating up. Let's hope appropriate actions follow.

Blogger Marsh 01701 June 21, 2018 1:48 PM  

I want to believe in spite of what I see. Hope as a virtue, nice.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville June 21, 2018 1:50 PM  

Q will occasionally answer questions from the anon, but AFIK today was the first time ever that Q advertised a question/answer session this Saturday at a time TBD.

Hopefully the Flearthers and Shills will be muted.

Blogger Lazarus June 21, 2018 1:57 PM  

Trump's energy and positivity is quite amazing. Contrast that with the negative energy of his opponents. No wonder they need pharmaceuticals to get through the day.

Blogger NO GOOGLES June 21, 2018 1:59 PM  

I will be pleasantly surprised if what Q is alluding to actually happens. The skeptic in me says the rot is so deep that it will take a full blown civil war to burn it all away.

Blogger doug whiddon June 21, 2018 2:04 PM  

I feel like ive missed an episode. What is this "Q" thing?

Blogger Percylurse Johansson June 21, 2018 2:11 PM  

Check out :https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/?s=q He speaks a lot about Q

Blogger Crew June 21, 2018 2:13 PM  

I have had hope ever since Donald Trump announced his campaign. Hope for MAGA, hope to stop the rot.

President Trump has delivered, bigly and will deliver more!

Blogger ZhukovG June 21, 2018 2:15 PM  

We are like the Soviet Union in winter, 1941-42. We were driven back. Defeat upon defeat. To the very edge of destruction.

The 2016 Presidential election became our winter counteroffensive. We shocked them. We threw them back from the very gates of our Nationalist Moscow.

However...

Spring of 42 is coming. The enemy is still strong. They will come at us again. We must be ready. We must never lose hope.

It will be a long hard slow fight before Globalist Berlin falls. But fall it will and it will burn.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 2:28 PM  

@9

"I feel like ive missed an episode. What is this "Q" thing?"

Uh, you've missed about 3 seasons. It started in Oct 2017. Right after Trumps photo-op with about 2-dozen senior flag officers

Trump: This is the calm.... the calm before the storm
Reporter: What storm?
Trump: You'll see.

Q showed up on 8 chan /pol/ shortly thereafter, and they soon made a 2 new channels for him/her/them: /cbts/ and then /qresearch/

Blogger Joeplanet June 21, 2018 2:29 PM  

There was FBI anon and Mega anon. Then Q appeared. Things were different with Q. Something that did not sound like a typical LARP. And while I grew really frustrated with the pace, due to Q's opening drops being so aggressive about arrests and indictments, he has been tracking pretty well and true to news that you could verify in the press. Knowing about NK before it happened was a big confirmation. Q is definitely real.

All I question is how much do they really know/are capable of versus what are they bluffing about to force the black hats and cabals into forced errors?

But he is definitely in the inner circle and they are bringing the pain.

Blogger Chase June 21, 2018 2:34 PM  

I live in a major metropolitan area that is almost completely composed of SWPL liberals. The temptation is going to be to lash out at them all. I’m not going to lie, watching the country fall apart over the last two decades while they smugly signaled their virtue has created a massive selling of anger at them. I have to remind myself every day that it’s not totally their fault: they are basically sheep. How do we deal with those when and if this entire corrupt apparatus comes tumbling down?

Blogger artensoll June 21, 2018 2:34 PM  

@9

Neon Revolts intro to Q: https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/02/27/an-introduction-to-qanon/

Blogger KG June 21, 2018 2:38 PM  

a commentator in another thread said the election of GEOTUS had him praying for him and our country more than ever before. I 2nd that. I am hopeful.

Blogger het1 June 21, 2018 2:43 PM  

@3
> I have never seen such turmoil in this country.

As for current crisis on the Mexican border – it is not spontaneous but undoubtedly provoked by liberals. It is their favorite tactic – to put forth children and then begin to cry and whine: whatyouaredoingtheyarechildren!!!
In Russia liberals do the same and it is even an (ironical) mem TheyAreChildren (онижедети).

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 21, 2018 2:44 PM  

@9 It's gonna take a bit of catching up. @16 gave you a good site for commentary and interpretation. Here is the raw Q posts. It's a lot to read but well worth the time:

https://qanon.pub

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 2:49 PM  

@15

"How do we deal with those when and if this entire corrupt apparatus comes tumbling down?"

If you can't execute them, let your buddy do it.

Look. They made the choice to not lay low and keep quiet, but instead, to take on the roll of the cheerleeding pom-pom squad for all of this stuff, and to CONTINUE DOING SO despite year after year of family and friends telling them that what they're advocating is idiocy.

There is a time for hardening your heart, and this is one of them.

When God led Moses and his people into Isreal, he commanded that EVERY LIVING THING be killed. That would mean even puppies and kittens.

These people, although they won't say it to your face, they want you DEAD. Once violence has broken out on a mass scale, whoever acts first is the one who survives.

I have several acquaintances who, unfortunately, I have to make plans for. That's just how it is.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore June 21, 2018 2:50 PM  

OT: Melania Trump just engaged in sensei level trolling. She went to the immigration detention center in Texas wearing a jacket that said "I really don care, do u?" The Left is going go completely apoplectic.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5871221/Melania-Trump-wears-jacket-REALLY-DONT-CARE-U-visit-immigrant-children.html

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis June 21, 2018 2:51 PM  

Meanwhile, not even ice cream can escape the watchful gaze of Sauron, er, I mean SJWs.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mixed-race-siblings-ask-blue-bell-change-name-great-divide-ice-cream-184723180.html

Will admit I'm surprised Blue Bell said they weren't changing the name.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 2:56 PM  

@18 het 1

>> I have never seen such turmoil in this country.

> As for current crisis on the Mexican border – it is not spontaneous but undoubtedly provoked by liberals.

You left out this

>> Makes the 60's look like childs play.

In the 60's, we had mass rioting. About the Vietnam War. About Racial relations. And some were just baby boomers rioting for the sake of rioting.

An entire active duty (NOT reservist) Airborne Infantry Division (of which about 2/3 were Vietnam Vets) was sent to Detroit to put down the riot. And in the 50 years between then and now, not one piece of property where a building was burned down has had a new building built on it. It's not merely a scar -- it's a wound that is still open (and the only reason it no longer stands out in aerial imagery of Detroit is because the rest of the city is now afflicted with civilization equivalent of leprosy).

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 2:58 PM  

@9


Here's the full decrypts/translations to within the beginning of the month:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Efm2AcuMJ7whuuB6T7ouOIwrE_9S-1vDJLAXIVPZU2g/edit#gid=1596710080

Unlike qanon.pub, this is in chronological order, not reverse chronological order.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 21, 2018 2:58 PM  

@18 (& @21)

They sure as hell don't care. How many children have been killed, mutilated, orphaned, and impoverished by these people's bullshit wars of liberation?

How many millions?

How many have they molested, raped, and tortured?

All their tears are fake. The only proper response to their wailing is mocking laughter.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 2:59 PM  

I just reloaded that spreadsheet (renewed the web page). It's current to within the last few hours now.

Blogger Al K. Annossow June 21, 2018 3:02 PM  

My guess is that Q is a group run out of the communications office at the white house. It's definitely more than some guy in his basement generating lulz. And Q is too aware of the 8chan postings and news to be someone also spending his time accumulating intel.

Asides from general briefings and their own news monitoring, the people behind Q get occasional real insider tidbits from regular intel pros, and probably from Trump himself. Some may be fully disclosed situation descriptions and some may be merely enough to show knowledge without violating classified intel. But the main goals are to maintain hope in the long march that's needed to drain the national and international swamps. Also, Trump's civic nationalism agenda needs focused unity rather than the infighting and Nazi leanings that tend to pervade the internet. It's an attempt to keep the deplorables short attention span from self sabotaging their support of Trump. Unity! Patriotism! WWG1WGA! It's a stated goal. And it's as real as possible, but limited out of necessity. Base support is needed to keep the agenda moving forward.

Did anyone else notice that Q was silent while the video for Kim was being made and evaluated? Seems like more of a need for marketing expertise than a need for a top intel person.

Blogger RB June 21, 2018 3:05 PM  

@15 Chase

My wife of 23 years became one of those people of whom you speak. I divorced her. There will not be a self help book in sight that will ever help these people recover emotionally after the next couple of years pass - in my opinion. If you have to deal with them at all, don't waste words. Utilize decisive actions. Consequences are all they understand, and even then, they will blame anyone but themselves for their misery.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 21, 2018 3:10 PM  

BTW, all of puffery about 35,000 indictments, etc. coming from the hopium dens mean very little when we have cases like this one. Why should anyone expect the Sessions et al to bring the hammer down on Satanic pedos, the Clinton machine, Soros, etc. when they can't even bother to fire an enemy from within their own lower ranks? This is why such posturing is ultimately harmful. Better to say nothing at all and let the hammer drop with deadly force than idiocy like this. Who's really in charge?? You think a DOJ employee would have gotten away with doing something like this to Jeh Johnson?

Blogger Kettle June 21, 2018 3:12 PM  

There are some much bigger brains here than mine, so help me out, there is something I have been puzzling on for a while.
Looking at history and the nature of civilization cycles, its clear in general terms that a “phase change” is coming that will probably involve severe turmoil and ultimate breakup of the US. There will likely be areas of potentially extreme violence and ethnic cleansing for periods of time.
But I am trying to figure out the 1st part of the transition. Trump obviously wins a second term at this point. AT some point, perhaps during trumps second term, the market implodes from the massive debt Ponzi that’s grown for 50+ years. Hard times hit and the stress of magnified income inequality and “diversity” can no longer be suppressed by “gibbs me dats”.
Is that alone enough to trigger the shift into the “chaos” phase of the transition we have already entered?
I don’t see a leftist president taking over after trump, we are headed into a “conservative” phase in US political power, Pinochet may be far to tame for what is coming down the road here. The major chaos probably develops in the 2030’s, but what is the driving dynamic of the 2020’s?

Blogger Al K. Annossow June 21, 2018 3:27 PM  

Kettle wrote:there is something I have been puzzling on for a while.
I think your evaluation is good. I think the details and timing of a tipping point will depend on things that are currently unknown such as future prominent figures and events, both nationally and internationally. The market factors you mentioned are the fuel but an unknown match lights it. The longer the wait, the bigger the pile of fuel and the bigger the destruction. Trump is actually working to reduce that pile.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 3:34 PM  


Posted by an anon: https://www.qproofs.com/

Cited by Q

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 21, 2018 3:35 PM  

@15: anger and retribution seems appropriate. Leftism should hurt.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 21, 2018 3:40 PM  

@27. I think your take is pretty good on this. The errors as I see it are not in the motive behind it (after all, keeping morale up is important), but in the dangers of generating false hopes which are never realized. To be fair, the Q-people themselves have not been nearly as bad about this as the numerous anons on the various 'breads' over there. I just want to spit on the screen every time I see a meme of Sessions with glowing eyes and the slogan "Sessions Activated". Yeah, a real activation process there - like watching paint dry (assuming there's any actual paint at all).

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 3:41 PM  

@22

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mixed-race-siblings-ask-blue-bell-change-name-great-divide-ice-cream-184723180.html


Shouldn't that Yahoo headline be "whore's children as Bluebell....."

Blogger Hammerli280 June 21, 2018 3:43 PM  

@30: I expect severe turmoil only. The way I see this playing out is:

1. Trump will spring the Ultimate October Surprise this fall - a significant roll-up of the DOJ/FBI/Propaganda Press seditious conspiracy. The Clintons get arrested, too.

2. The Left will go NUTS. This will afford the opportunity to put many of them into prison...or coffins.

3. I AM expecting a Second Great Inflation...which arguably started in 2009. On the other hand, the Trump Deregulation is firing up the economy. And when you run a Welfare State with an Income Tax, a bigger economy affects both sides of the equation. Watch for a balanced budget by 2022.

4. The political environment is completing a massive polarity shift. Big Business abandoned the GOP for the Democrats and crony capitalism in the 1990s. But doing so left the working middle class without representation. Trump won by targeting these voters...and if the GOP keeps doing that, they'll keep winning. It's worth pointing out that the Populist wing of the Republican Party has won three of the last four elections. They are getting close to taking real control of the party.

5. The Presidential election of 2024 will be critical. I think the Republicans can win IF they don't nominate Pence. Nothing against him, but after eight years there's often a desire for change...and sitting Vice Presidents don't do well in that regard. They normally go down to honorable defeat. Find a fresh face from among the governors.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 3:48 PM  

@29

"BTW, all of puffery about 35,000 indictments, etc. coming from the hopium dens mean very little when we have cases like this one. Why should anyone expect the Sessions et al to bring the hammer down on Satanic pedos, the Clinton machine, Soros, etc. when they can't even bother to fire an enemy from within their own lower ranks? This is why such posturing is ultimately harmful. Better to say nothing at all and let the hammer drop with deadly force than idiocy like this. Who's really in charge?? You think a DOJ employee would have gotten away with doing something like this to Jeh Johnson?"

She's a low-level GS-grade employee.
That means she's protected by the federal employees union, and so she can't be fired for any old reason.

However, this act of public insubordination, and conduct unbecoming could well be her ticket to the unenjoyment line.

Blogger basementhomebrewer June 21, 2018 3:51 PM  

5. The Presidential election of 2024 will be critical. I think the Republicans can win IF they don't nominate Pence. Nothing against him, but after eight years there's often a desire for change...and sitting Vice Presidents don't do well in that regard. They normally go down to honorable defeat. Find a fresh face from among the governors.

Running someone from inside the political system will be a mistake. Even if they win, the odds that they are already corrupted by the swamp are way too high.

Blogger Shane M. June 21, 2018 3:53 PM  

The "progressives" need to reap what they've sown; an eye for an eye, in my view. They have precipitated massive levels of discrimination against anyone vocally right-of-center, at least the ones not fully corrupted by them, in academia, public administration, the ENTIRE old media [press, film, et al.], the professions [particularly law - look at the shit that brilliant and legal genius Fed. Soc. chapter presidents have had to deal with in the private sector law job market t/o the decades, with it only getting worse as time progresses], Fortune 500 corporations, and they've even recently started similar campaigns in IT, the gaming industry, Silicon Valley, and the Internet in general (censorship and more). They've destroyed the lives and careers of countless individuals either through the application of doxxing followed by organized campaigns of employer harassment, or simple retaliation against a MSM-generated public pariah scapegoated for some delusional political reason (e.g., the officer who defended himself against Michael Brown, the large numbers of young men falsely accused of sexual assaults, etc). This is notwithstanding all of the externalities and social costs incurred by innocent families and bystanders by their disruptive, anti-social pet public policies.

We cannot play this "oh, they're sheep who aren't responsible, forgive, forget, and move on" game. I'm not saying they should be physically harmed, killed, incarcerated, harassed, or anything of that sort. But alienation and marginalization is more than appropriate, and in fact the least of what they deserve. All of the mostly incompetent, utterly mediocre at best, bubble life prog-tard SWPLs (that Charles Murray hilariously conceived of as some super-productive, highly disciplined 'cognitive elite' - LMAO) who have benefited generously from the globalized "vampire" economy because of social connections, nepotism, and 'networking' (code for gainful employment acquired through arbitrary and purely social means; plus anti-meritocratic discrimination against the educated lower-middle class white males trying to overcome their class origin, Scalia said it best in a late 70's LR article re: affirmative action, the effects from which 'legacies' have been immunized) SHOULD have to be 'steered' to the communities that suffered the most in externalities imposed by their 'enlightened' public/economic policy 'noblesse oblige.' They say they believe in equity, 'social justice,' 'distributive justice,' and all that - right?

Well, time for them to practice what they've preached, if only for a single period in their lives. And such would be truly kind, gentle, and generous relative to what they themselves have wrought and relative to what traditionally transpires in such scenarios historically. During the typical Western 'revolution' aiming to supplant an old, degenerate, corrupt, and abusive order/regime, those who have plundered the majority in league with that old order meet the traditional Roman practice of proscription and are 'relieved' of their ill-gotten gains. If their assets, economic clout, privileges, and influence networks are maintained, no genuine change is possible.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 3:59 PM  

@39

They can "network" among the literally burned out mansions and bulldozed empty lots of what used to be the envy-of-the-world neighborhoods of Detroit.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 4:01 PM  

Envy of the world, that is...before the Marxists (Coleman Young, voting delegate to the CPUSA, and all of his radical appointees) destroyed the city

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 21, 2018 4:16 PM  

Shane M. wrote:We cannot play this "oh, they're sheep who aren't responsible, forgive, forget, and move on" game. I'm not saying they should be physically harmed, killed, incarcerated, harassed, or anything of that sort.

I'm not advocating it, but I'm hoping for it. Leftism should really hurt.

Blogger VoodooJock June 21, 2018 4:17 PM  

I think if Trump continues on course, which would about guarantee a win in 2020, he's going to need a VP that he can set up as a successor. That's been the one failing of 2-term presidents. They've appointed VP's for political coalition building reasons and not from the view of platform succession. Hillary's best chance of winning was back in 2000 with Bush Jr. Instead, they went with Gore, who wasn't much more than a ideological lackey.

Being a businessman, Trump knows this better than recent politicians. His pool from which he's got to choose, well, right now, it's pretty damn shallow. The '18 and '22 elections are going to be critical in that regard.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 4:19 PM  

@43

By 2020, Trump's Coalition will be Trump.

His best VP pick would be Alex Jones.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 4:21 PM  

Bring Alex in from the world of 30% disinfo limited-hangouts, and an opportunity to go with what he actually believes.

Blogger Peaceful Poster June 21, 2018 4:26 PM  

At some point, perhaps during trumps second term, the market implodes from the massive debt Ponzi that’s grown for 50+ years.

There will not be any implosion of govt debt any time soon. See Japan which has a much higher govt debt/GDP than the USA, yet is still fine.

Any debt implosion will likely come from the private sector but, again, other countries are in far worse shape than the USA. Steve Keen is particularly worried about China and his home country of Australia. Canada is also looking very dicey, not only private debtwise, but it also has many other serious issues that have already been discussed at length here.

Bottom line is the USA looks OK relatively speaking!

Blogger Lovekraft June 21, 2018 4:29 PM  

Tim Pool interview on the recent SPLC settlement of $3+ million. They discuss how the settlement is about avoiding discovery, which would reveal the racket that it is.

Also, another 60 orgs are considering legal action against SPLC. Epitome of an anti-white/Christian swamp organization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkn5_gCvtC0

Blogger Unknown June 21, 2018 4:37 PM  

"Q" is short for Qanon that is thought on good authority to be group that is associated with army Intel very close to Trump. Q posts rather cripticly but accurately about the war that Trump and his fellow patreates are wedging against elite deep states and there minions in the MSM etc. You can see Q's posts over on qanon.pub.

Blogger Unknown June 21, 2018 4:39 PM  

Sorry for the typos...

Blogger Kettle June 21, 2018 4:59 PM  

@46

Any debt implosion will likely come from the private sector but, again, other countries are in far worse shape than the USA.

That may be so, but the global financial system is highly interconnected and the US $ is the reserve currency. I'm not an economics guru but the pension issues that are just starting to bubble up and look to hit in the early to mid 2020's and no laughing matter. Huge financial promises that are impossible to pay.
Regardless of where it comes from it will have a big impact. The nature of historical cycles alone suggests major economic issue even if it can speak as to how or why.

Blogger Kettle June 21, 2018 5:02 PM  

One guess I have for the 2020's is that as the left loses control of the mainstream media organizations and hence the narrative we see the "rate of change" increase notably as the average joe is no longer force fed "mockingbird" propaganda every minute of the day.

Image how things might be different if the wide spread child trafficking arrests and cases were as publicized as a staged "kid in a cage". or if crime trends as they exist were accurately reported, etc etc etc.

Blogger Jamie-R June 21, 2018 5:26 PM  

I knew Q was legit after the Syria attacks, they held close to Trump, after warning about the complexity of the operating environment & the world being interconnected. The foreign intelligence agents, the wannabe MAGA daffodils & those who can't think outside the 'muh conservatism' or 'muh controlled opposition on reddit' or 'muh being accepted by normies' couldn't handle it all.

Q is for real. It's helping too. But the enemies of Q are everyone. And much like foreign military cyberattacks, bad actors want to target it. If people knew how much stuff intelligence agencies did, & why spy school isn't like trade school, they'd get it.

Blogger Jamie-R June 21, 2018 5:34 PM  

That's the thing about Alex Jones too, Q is a competitor to him, considering Trump's strong thoughts on disloyalty in his books, the targeting of Jones by Q was classic Trump behaviour. He hates disloyalty. And he'll make you pay for it. He always gets even.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 21, 2018 5:39 PM  

ZhukovG wrote:It will be a long hard slow fight before Globalist Berlin falls. But fall it will and it will burn.
You comment reminded me of one of the great songs of the 20th century.

And the evening sings in a voice of amber,
the dawn is surely coming.
The morning roads lead to Stalingrad,
and the sky is softly humming.
Two broken Tigers on fire in the night
Flicker their souls to the wind.
We wait in the lines
for the final approach to begin.
It's been almost four years
that I've carried a gun.
At home it will almost be spring.
The flames of the Tigers
are lighting the road to Berlin.

Blogger Silent Draco June 21, 2018 5:41 PM  

And she played games with the Hatch Act by citing her official position in an article about her 'private' political action. No, dearie, doesn't work that way. My guess is she'll lose all they want up the appeals chain.

Blogger Darwinite June 21, 2018 5:41 PM  

The best official confirmation, on the record, came this week from Devin Nunes. He confirmed that NYPD officers came to him with the info on Wiener’s laptop while the FBI was stalling. Then he tweeted popcorn.

Blogger Peaceful Poster June 21, 2018 5:42 PM  

@50 Kettle - good point about the pension issues.

I should have clarified that local government debt is also a concern.

But not so much at the Federal level. In fact, I'd love to see the GE spend bigly on the Wall, the Space Force, roads and whatever else He sees fit. If that requires borrowing, so be it.

It's weird but, just like some right wingers are coming around to the benefits of "collectivism", they are also beginning to appreciate the benefits of govt spending if done right.

Never thought I'd say that 5 years ago!

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 21, 2018 5:49 PM  

umm, Trump has been on television and in films for decades. Certainly for all of my adult life. Has he, at any other point, made Q shaped gestures with his fingers, and then go back to a palm?

I am thinking he has not. He has excellent posture and excellent, controlled body language. Consider the debates. Hillary was jiggling her shoulders and smiling like a dollar in the garter stripper for one of them. Then there was the head-bobbing episode. Then there was the fainting episode- side of beef tossed into a van.

At no point is Trump anything other than coherent, cohesive, economical in his body language. He's not doing that weird flopping hand gesture thing that basic debaters do. He's not tomahawk chopping like Cruz.

So, I am thinking the Q gesture is new, uncharacteristic, and therefore, intended.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 21, 2018 5:49 PM  

umm, Trump has been on television and in films for decades. Certainly for all of my adult life. Has he, at any other point, made Q shaped gestures with his fingers, and then go back to a palm?

I am thinking he has not. He has excellent posture and excellent, controlled body language. Consider the debates. Hillary was jiggling her shoulders and smiling like a dollar in the garter stripper for one of them. Then there was the head-bobbing episode. Then there was the fainting episode- side of beef tossed into a van.

At no point is Trump anything other than coherent, cohesive, economical in his body language. He's not doing that weird flopping hand gesture thing that basic debaters do. He's not tomahawk chopping like Cruz.

So, I am thinking the Q gesture is new, uncharacteristic, and therefore, intended.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 5:50 PM  

@53

Most likely only because Jones is on the outside.

Trump could reel him to be part of the team if he so desired.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 6:01 PM  

@54

You do realize, don't you, that the song you quoted from, is about how all of the guys whose units were overrun, and were behind German lines, and continued to do their duty and fight against the invading army.... after they were liberated... were taken to camps deep inside Russia AND SHOT!

Blogger exfarmkid June 21, 2018 6:05 PM  

Er...what is "WWG1"?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 21, 2018 6:09 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:.before the Marxists (Coleman Young, voting delegate to the CPUSA, and all of his radical appointees) destroyed the city
Young is a symptom. What destroyed Detroit was the riots. White people left to live in safe neighborhoods, leaving the Blacks behind. And Blacks can't maintain a livable city.

Blogger Crew June 21, 2018 6:10 PM  

He hates disloyalty. And he'll make you pay for it. He always gets even.

If you have read Let Trump be Trump by Lewandowski and that other guy, you would know that it accuses Manafort of stealing a substantial amount of money (but less than $100,000 IIRC) from the Trump Campaign.

Trump always gets even. Just sayin!

Blogger Crew June 21, 2018 6:10 PM  

what is "WWG1"

When we go one, we go all?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 21, 2018 6:11 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:You do realize, don't you,
Yes.
Do you need a better example of the 20th century?

Blogger Al K. Annossow June 21, 2018 6:14 PM  

exfarmkid wrote:Er...what is "WWG1"?
Q and his followers frequently uses the abbreviation WWG1WGA, which stands for Where We Go One, We Go All. Basically it means that we're all in this together. It is an inscription on a large bell on John F. Kennedy's yacht.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 6:15 PM  

@67

"It's weird but, just like some right wingers are coming around to the benefits of "collectivism", they are also beginning to appreciate the benefits of govt spending if done right.

Never thought I'd say that 5 years ago!"

We have a RESPONSIBLE ADULT in charge now. And one who is actually civic minded.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 6:15 PM  

er... @57

Blogger Jamie-R June 21, 2018 6:17 PM  

Jones was not on the outside, Roger Stone works with him, he is very close to Trump, & Jones 'managed' Q posts by contracting out to Jerome Corsi, who may be working for Mossad hired to control the message coming from the military intel that is Q. When Jones decided to insult Trump & threaten to cost him votes at mid-terms, he put himself on the radar to be cut down. Alex Jones makes money off this stuff, & sometimes that means he'll work with people that don't have the country's best interests at heart, that's the nature of commercial media, regardless of its origin.

I like how Q has tried to highlight that in this world there are schemers, all they do is scheme, & it is tied closely to the nature of schemers you can find in history, causing upheavals in nations across Europe. It is a conscience above all, because many Anglo-Saxons find themselves serving it too. It's abominable.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 6:20 PM  

@64

"If you have read Let Trump be Trump by Lewandowski and that other guy, you would know that it accuses Manafort of stealing a substantial amount of money (but less than $100,000 IIRC) from the Trump Campaign"

HE was accustomed to working for Democrats. They don't go to the police about each other committing theivery - the counter-accusations and state's-evidence-turning would destroy the party in less than a week.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 6:22 PM  

@70

"Jones was not on the outside, Roger Stone works with him, he is very close to Trump, & Jones 'managed' Q posts by contracting out to Jerome Corsi,"

Corsi has done some good stuff. But his whole "Q is just a LARP" puts him squarely in the idiot box this time.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 21, 2018 6:23 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:the counter-accusations and state's-evidence-turning would destroy the party in less than a week.
I'm trying to come up with a reason this would be bad. Help me out here.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 6:24 PM  

It wouldn't be bad.

But it's why Democrats don't report each other for stealing from each other.

Blogger Avalanche June 21, 2018 6:26 PM  

@72 "Corsi has done some good stuff. But his whole "Q is just a LARP" puts him squarely in the idiot box this time."

So does posting EIGHT-HOUR videos apparently dissecting and explaining and discussing Q posts. Come on! EIGHT hours?! No one employed can afford (literally!) to put that kind of time in!

Blogger Darwinite June 21, 2018 6:43 PM  

@Avalanche I tried listening to several, just putting them on in the background while doing chores. It was an utter waste, none of the people on the streams ever said anything about Q. Corsi just spouted off whatever his pre-Q theories were, while everybody else sniffed his farts and called it perfume.

Blogger tublecane June 21, 2018 6:52 PM  

@3- The 60s *were* radical, just not because selfish Boomers stopped washing themselves and really really liked rock music, nor because long-hairs and hard-hats engaged in fisticuffs.

There was a lot of superficial strife, amplified by the MSM. However, there were also sea changes in politics and culture which took a while to become apparent. For instance, the civil rights movement, the sexual revolution, throwing the borders open, the Long March through the Institutions. All of which have had potentially civilized-destroying consequences.

Blogger Jamie-R June 21, 2018 6:57 PM  

Corsi knows full well what Q is, so does Stone, so does Jones. But Corsi's not an insider, his job was to explain Q for the masses, control it by being a point man people know about in America, whether Mossad was involved, well they are good at spying now, they're not obvious. Q highlighted that Mossad tried to attack the Q boards in some form (alluding to a 'frenemy' there is obviously Israel or sometimes the U.K., but Israel always has more to lose). Mossad indirectly went through Alex Jones, someone the conspiracy community trusted. He was vulnerable because he's commercial. It's business for them, they don't want what Q is talking about to break mainstream. When Q talks history it indicts a lot of the people behind how their state was formed.

Blogger DonReynolds June 21, 2018 6:59 PM  

There must be a distinction between hope and wishful thinking.....between hope and unbridled optimism or blind faith.
For hope to be rational it must be based on the possible and not the impossible.

I always taught that we need to automatically believe that a solution exists, even if we do not already know what that solution might be. There must be a solution or we would not bother to look for it, or study, or perform research.

Urgency is attached to our search for a solution because we need to find it in time for it to work. All solutions require time. No cures are instantaneous. So we need a solution that will work in the time allowed. Maybe not the best solution, but one we can actually do, in the time allowed or remaining. There is always a way. There is no "only".

Blogger Dirk Manly June 21, 2018 7:08 PM  

@78

"Q highlighted that Mossad tried to attack the Q boards in some form (alluding to a 'frenemy' there is obviously Israel or sometimes the U.K., but Israel always has more to lose). Mossad indirectly went through Alex Jones, someone the conspiracy community trusted. He was vulnerable because he's commercial. It's business for them, they don't want what Q is talking about to break mainstream. When Q talks history it indicts a lot of the people behind how their state was formed."

Zimmerman Telegraph was a false flag




https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=benjamin+freedman++speech+1961

Blogger Jamie-R June 21, 2018 7:20 PM  

The U.K., it appears, have always been neck deep in globalism, & their overtures on anything to the USA should be taken with extreme caution. Their intelligence community was involved in trying to stop Trump, it's funny how collusion is with Britain & Israel, but Russia cops the rough end of the stick. Russia was ruined by these same schemers in the early 20th century, now they have to deal with them externally. No wonder Russians are a bit crazy about everything, you would be too if they did all this & then acted shamelessly from another staging ground.

Blogger justaguy June 21, 2018 9:06 PM  

I can't really comment much on Q, because it is not clear what he means... However well above people think that this is like the 60s... not even close at all. At least not yet close to the issues where the media set the narrative of uprisings so a few protests and a bit of leftist domestic terrorism are now thought to be some sort of mass revolution. The terrorist were basically all caught, the racial riots from Dr. King's assassination quelled and the vast majority-- the silent majority, who in polls and in actuality weren't following the leftist narrative went on with their lives.

We do not have the number of leftist domestic terrorists bombing buildings (stopped after the draft ended) or the race riots in most major cities (crushed by troop like we can't do now) as we had then.

What we do have is an awakening by the "deplorables" that they have to vote their wellbeing for policies for them, not what the elites tell them too. Perhaps this is why Ann Coulter says the Dems are replacing the middle class whites as the middle class whites are no longer doing what they are told.

Blogger NoneOfTheAbove June 21, 2018 9:40 PM  

The r/K guy has a long post on Q today.

"We told you proofs were going to be important very soon.
New eyes.
Be ready.
5:5?
We thank you for your service.
Q"

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/q-may-be-about-to-begin/

Blogger Crew June 21, 2018 10:05 PM  

And one more suicide by hanging (from a doorknob perhaps):

https://pagesix.com/2018/06/20/publicist-jeanine-pepler-dies-by-suicide-at-50/

Blogger Were-Puppy June 22, 2018 1:18 AM  

@58 Ariadne Umbrella

He's not tomahawk chopping like Cruz.
---

Just a note, that was the Fruit Ninja John Kasich who was the chopper.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 11:38 AM  

@84

Publicist = doorkeeper.
Good Riddance.

Blogger Vlad Z. June 22, 2018 11:55 AM  

I'm still new around here. I searched for "VFM" and found several others uses of the term, but not a de-acronymed occurance. I'm guessing "Vox Family Members" perhaps? There is mention of # in some of them, so perhaps it's a formal membership program?

Sorry for the newbie question, but could someone please explain. Thanks!

Blogger Dirk Manly June 22, 2018 12:21 PM  

Vile Faceless Minions

Blogger Shane M. June 22, 2018 1:45 PM  

[quote]The best official confirmation, on the record, came this week from Devin Nunes. He confirmed that NYPD officers came to him with the info on Wiener’s laptop while the FBI was stalling. Then he tweeted popcorn.[/quote]

I posted this same question on the channel of a Q analyst YouTuber and, curiously enough, received no answer, not even from the other YT commenters who appear to be heavily invested in this notion. So, since the readers here are pretty well-informed, I will repeat it (and, I reiterate, this is an honest question, I am not trying to be a "smart-ass"):

If you read the OIG report, other official documents, Comey's book, et al., there is no indication that NYPD was ever in possession of Weiner's laptop. Weiner's laptop was seized by FBI agents affiliated with the New York Office (NYO) pursuant to S.D.N.Y.'s (federal) investigation. NYPD personnel would not have been used in this scenario. I have been unable to find any solid primary documents or firsthand secondary source accounts that indicate NYPD personnel sifted through the contents of the laptop, nor have I found any indication that NYPD seized it "first" and then handed it over to the NYO for the purpose of some attempted "cover-up" (in fact, per the OIG report, the NYO made great efforts to ensure no cover-up by Comey & McCabe). I understand fully well that the New York Post reported on NY and NYPD's own parallel local investigation into Weiner's texting, but not even that article alleged that they seized the laptop and cataloged its contents. So where does this notion come from? I fear the possibility that this may be a hoax, and a calculated disinfo tactic to get the paranoid voices on the 'net to discredit themselves with the lure of purportedly "suppressed" #Pizzagate material, including an alleged "insurance" file folder containing a supposed Hillary-Huma "snuff" film which people claimed was once released on "the Dark Web" but which of course was not.

In these times especially, one should not sacrifice their critical reasoning capacity to jump the gun on a fantastic tale that is likely too "good" to be true.

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