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Tuesday, July 10, 2018

Are they not Americans too?

If you're a civic nationalist, then don't expect us to take seriously your future whining about foreign residents being given the right to vote. Have we not been told that it is the act of traveling to the United States with the intention of finding a better life there that makes one truly an American?
Non-U.S. citizens living in the country legally may one day be allowed to vote in Boston elections. The City Council is holding a hearing Tuesday on the idea at the request of Council President Andrea Campbell. The council is considering ways to make city elections more inclusive, including allowing immigrants with legal status in the country the right to vote in municipal races.

That could include legal permanent residents, visa holders and those on Temporary Protected Status or Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.

Campbell’s order for a hearing says Boston has more than 190,000 foreign-born residents, which represents 28 percent of the city population.
Now, what is more indicative of a commitment to the "nation", mouthing a few words you don't even understand or at least taking the trouble to get on an airplane and relocate? Just wait until the Left takes the Boston initiative national... which is an ironic turn of phrase if I've ever heard one. Because they most certainly will. It's a winning strategy for Democrats that is soundly rooted in civic nationalist rhetoric that even many conservatives accept.

Like communism, feminism, libertarianism and socialism, civic nationalism is an ideology that carries within itself the seeds of its own inevitable demise.

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70 Comments:

Blogger Justin Bailey July 10, 2018 11:19 AM  

Talk about foreign influence in an election!

Blogger wreckage July 10, 2018 11:20 AM  

Well, seeing as this effectively legally abolishes the state of being an American, I suppose it's a decent starting point for finding the new Dalai Uncle Sam...

Blogger Crave July 10, 2018 11:20 AM  

1 if by land. 190,000 if by sea.

Blogger Dr Caveman July 10, 2018 11:21 AM  

I'm a US permanent resident, so not allowed to vote. When I renewed my drivers licence last week, they asked me if I wanted to register to vote. If I had said yes, I would have been able to vote, even though it's illegal for me to do so. They don't check anything. I wonder how many immigrants are voting in the US, out of ignorance orbecaor bthey know they can get away with it

Blogger Looking Glass July 10, 2018 11:32 AM  

Dr Caveman wrote:I'm a US permanent resident, so not allowed to vote. When I renewed my drivers licence last week, they asked me if I wanted to register to vote. If I had said yes, I would have been able to vote, even though it's illegal for me to do so. They don't check anything. I wonder how many immigrants are voting in the US, out of ignorance orbecaor bthey know they can get away with it

100s of 1000s.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey July 10, 2018 11:38 AM  

This has already been happening around where I live. In Maryland several localities around the DC area now allow illegal aliens to vote in elections. There has been a push in the region to drop the voting age to 16, too.

Wake up, Americans. Wake the hell up!

Blogger English Tom July 10, 2018 11:42 AM  

Isn't it interesting how, by making things more inclusive, the nativist majority get dispossessed. It makes me sick.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma July 10, 2018 11:46 AM  

The only true democracy is to let the whole world vote. Otherwise, you're a racist agist intelligencist citizenist degenerophobe. and that's pure evil.
Let foreigners vote.
Let children vote.
Let retards vote.
Let parasites vote.
Everyone but racists (White people) should have political power.

Typical American election poll
White 59% Rep. 40% Dem.
Black 10% Rep. 90% Dem.
Latino 35% Rep. 62% Dem.
Jew 20% Rep. 80% Dem.
Asian 25% Rep. 75% Dem.
Dead 0% Rep. 100% Dem.
Felon 0% Rep. 100% Dem.
Terrorist 0% Rep. 100% Dem.
Illegal 0% Rep. 100% Dem.

Blogger Joshua_D July 10, 2018 11:49 AM  

America belongs to everyone, dontchaknow.

Blogger Long Live The West July 10, 2018 11:49 AM  

For every sweet innocent little poster child there's a thousand grown men willing to sell said poster child.

And for all that conservatives love their 11th commandment (Thou Shalt Bear Arms), do they really think that these invaders will die to protect it? Ignorance is one thing. Stupidity is inexcuseible.

Blogger Hammerli280 July 10, 2018 11:53 AM  

President Trump needs to simply declare those areas allowing non-citizens to vote (or failing to exercise due diligence in ensuring that voters are citizens) to have forefeited representation in Congress.

Blogger freddie_mac July 10, 2018 11:55 AM  

@10 Long Live The West
And for all that conservatives love their 11th commandment (Thou Shalt Bear Arms), do they really think that these invaders will die to protect it?

Of course not, because the invaders know that they're safer when the natives have been disarmed.

Blogger Sim1776 July 10, 2018 12:09 PM  

Urban Yankees are a special kind of crazy. The sad thing is the rest of the Progs will be in a rush to out-virtue signal one another.

Hopefully PDT and the FEC, or whoever certifies elections, will refuse to honor any Federal votes from those areas. Better yet, prosecute some local officials for election tampering.

Blogger TM Lutas July 10, 2018 12:17 PM  

If you've been solely conversing with idiots then it's fair to say "Have we not been told that it is the act of traveling to the United States with the intention of finding a better life there that makes one truly an American?". But then you'd only be countering the weaker arguments for civic nationalism and convincing the uninformed who have never heard stronger arguments and those weaker sorts who imagine that if you've defeated any lines of argument for a proposition, you've defeated the proposition.

Intent to become an American is certainly not a bad start but assimilation takes both intent and effort, along with the time necessary to rewire the brain and generate American habits as being reflex responses.

A lot of immigrants are caught in the middle of the process and their assimilation is slowed down because people don't help them along. This is bad and a major contributor the left brings to the table in making the USA worse than it could be. It's just as bad as saying the process doesn't exist at all and that those arriving here shouldn't even bother trying.

Blogger CM July 10, 2018 12:17 PM  

There are some open borders types who argue that letting people in doesn't mean giving them the right to vote.

I wonder what planet they live on, because if that same individual can't consider a rational reason for limiting the voting franchise to men of a certain age, but rather knee jerk at the injustice if denying any class of persons the right to vote, then they aren't actually serious about keeping non-citizen legal residents away from the voting booth.

Blogger Stilicho July 10, 2018 12:18 PM  

Ask the French how well their efforts to enforce a strict civic nationalism are working with their dirt-world "Frenchmen".

Blogger Insight July 10, 2018 12:21 PM  

So can I vote in other countries elections though I am a US citizen? After all turnabout is fair play.

Blogger Lance E July 10, 2018 12:22 PM  

There's that word again, inclusive.

Do they think we haven't caught on to the fact that it means more left and less white? Or do they know that we know, and enjoy flaunting it?

Blogger Anno Ruse July 10, 2018 12:27 PM  

"A lot of immigrants are caught in the middle of the process and their assimilation is slowed down because people don't help them along."

I'm willing to help them along. I can give them a ride to the airport.

Blogger Randomatos July 10, 2018 12:30 PM  

Flaunting. Always - they can't help themselves. It's a pathological need for the SJW to hold the victory parade.

Blogger RB July 10, 2018 12:34 PM  

I wonder if this is an idea sweet Andrea was illuminated by whilst immersed in a vagina worship meditation session. It feels so good and right to help the oppressed..

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma July 10, 2018 12:34 PM  

TM Lutas
You have no right to force them on the rest of us and steal our resources to support them.
If you want to bring them in, they're living in your house, and you are paying their expenses until they "generate American habits" and you are liable for any crimes they commit.
The majority of American Africans can't even properly pronounce the word "ask." How many more centuries, how many more programs, how many more trillions wasted will it take for them to assimilate?

Only 4% of Democrap Detroit public school eighth graders are proficient or better in math and only 7% in reading. *This is despite the fact that in the 2011-2012 school year the Detroit public schools had “total expenditures” of $18,361 per student.*
Cleveland public schools ranked next to last. Baltimore and Fresno were tied for third worst.

The Detroit (83% black) district profile for the 2015-16 school year posted online shows the combined results for students of all grades tested last spring shows a mere 2.9% met basic proficiency standards for science, 7.9% reached that threshold for math, 8.1 were proficient in Social Studies, and 14.6 met standards in English Language Arts.
Detroit students finished dead last, and in some subjects they scored worse than the last time the test was administered in 2013. The last place performance in 2015 marks the fourth consecutive time the district’s students ranked at the bottom.

Blogger VD July 10, 2018 12:40 PM  

If you've been solely conversing with idiots then it's fair to say "Have we not been told that it is the act of traveling to the United States with the intention of finding a better life there that makes one truly an American?".

Assimilation is not required for voting or citizenship, which is the entire standard that all civic nationalists apply to being "American". I have yet to see a single civic nationalist advocate stripping citizenship from any "American" who fails to adhere to whatever the proposition of the "proposition nation" is supposed to be.

Blogger pyrrhus July 10, 2018 12:42 PM  

@4 I'm a US permanent resident, so not allowed to vote. When I renewed my drivers licence last week, they asked me if I wanted to register to vote. If I had said yes, I would have been able to vote, even though it's illegal for me to do so. They don't check anything. I wonder how many immigrants are voting in the US, out of ignorance orbecaor bthey know they can get away with it

Some Yale research indicated several millions, at least. Same thing is true here in AZ...

Blogger pyrrhus July 10, 2018 12:44 PM  

But what I want to know is why people who were always Americans in their hearts, but were located in places like Portugal or the Congo, can't vote in American elections without the inconvenience of actually moving to America....Oh, the injustice!

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 10, 2018 12:48 PM  

VD wrote:I have yet to see a single civic nationalist advocate stripping citizenship from any "American" who fails to adhere to whatever the proposition of the "proposition nation" is supposed to be.

Exactly. And the fact that there would have to be periodic Inquisition to ensure that the Propositional Citizens are maintaining the current Propositions.

Blogger Gen. Kong July 10, 2018 1:14 PM  

wreckage wrote:
Well, seeing as this effectively legally abolishes the state of being an American, I suppose it's a decent starting point for finding the new Dalai Uncle Sam...

Not the Dalai Uncle Sam - it's the Dial'obama. Only those with sailfoams will be able to find him/her/it. I remember an epistle from the great Barbequetta Chickendra Jone on this topic. When the smell of fried-chicken and menthol cigarettes is overpowering, you know you're in the vicinity.

Blogger widlast washere July 10, 2018 1:14 PM  

The way things are going, half the lowlifes and idiots of the world are going to relocate to the US, and the US will be a shithole like so much of the rest of the world. If the Democrats are ever in complete control this country is doomed, just look at Californistan.
Pity that Russia has such crappy weather

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma July 10, 2018 1:28 PM  

On a related note, notice how all the spotlighted cucks who vehemently oppose "identity politics" for Americans never utter a criticism of Israel & explicitly jewish identity/activities, but instead emphatically support their "right to exist."

Blogger NO GOOGLES July 10, 2018 1:28 PM  

@14
For all your kvetching about "stronger" arguments for civic nationalism... you didn't actually make any of them. You're talking about rewiring the brain and generating habits but do you support predicating citizenship or voting rights on those things? Would we actually be able to test people in a way that guarantees they couldn't fool the test? Of course the answer is no.

Civic nationalism is cancer because in application it is the same system as the no borders crowd, just dressed up in more palatable language. Identity is something we can actually check. "Habits" and "rewiring the brain" aren't. Those are excuses so you can say "not all" when someone points out to you that nonwhite people overwhelmingly vote against Western civilization when given the chance.

You need to deal with ugly reality instead of ignoring it in favor of flowery talk of "muh principles" and proposition nations. Civic nationalism isn't nationalism, it is globalism with a disguise.

Blogger Ledford Ledford July 10, 2018 1:29 PM  

Intent to become an American is certainly not a bad start but assimilation takes both intent and effort, along with the time necessary to rewire the brain and generate American habits as being reflex responses.

This happens only imperfectly, and takes generations. I'm not a perfectionist, but I don't think you're acknowledging the true difficulty of your proposition.

Blogger Peaceful Poster July 10, 2018 1:38 PM  

The majority of American Africans can't even properly pronounce the word "ask."

This has always bugged me, too.

I wonder if it's some sort of dyslexic problem, or do they mispronounce the word on purpose?

Blogger Hammerli280 July 10, 2018 1:44 PM  

"I have yet to see a single civic nationalist advocate stripping citizenship from any "American" who fails to adhere to whatever the proposition of the "proposition nation" is supposed to be."

Then let me be the first! Let us hold proper inquiries into the character and beliefs...and expel the Fake Americans. Wherever they might have been born.

Although I suspect there's a bit of talking past each other going on. There are "civic nationalists" who define the term as willingness to follow our laws...and make money. But nothing further. Then there are other "civic nationalists", who define the term as a willingness to embrace our customs and culture, and reject "the old country" utterly.

And if you're only here for the dollars, you have to go back.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma July 10, 2018 1:50 PM  

Peaceful Poster wrote: I wonder if it's some sort of dyslexic problem, or do they mispronounce the word on purpose?

They definitely have a culture of "not acting white" and bully & abuse their own who try to excel. Given their general abysmal grammar, I'd say it's a combination.
One time a negroid male talking to me about "husk" kept saying huks.

Blogger Mocheirge July 10, 2018 1:53 PM  

Peaceful Poster wrote:The majority of American Africans can't even properly pronounce the word "ask."

This has always bugged me, too.

I wonder if it's some sort of dyslexic problem, or do they mispronounce the word on purpose?


New Jerseyans can't pronounce it correctly, either. Perhaps coincidentally, I don't think there is any founding stock left in New Jersey.

Blogger widlast washere July 10, 2018 1:56 PM  

"The majority of American Africans can't even properly pronounce the word "ask."

That's the inner city dialect of "ebonics". There are parallels in many places where the majority are, shall we say, less than intelligent. When we first moved to rural Maryland I was struck by the mispronunciation of the word sphaghetti by the local inbred population, they called it spisketti. They butchered quite a few other words also.

Blogger Hammerli280 July 10, 2018 1:59 PM  

It may be biological. I know many African languages use different sounds than the Indo-European family - clicks and such.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd July 10, 2018 2:01 PM  

Civic Nationalists at this point are either ignorant or totally in denial regarding how much the left hates them.
There are academic papers dismissing logic as a white-male, cis-het construct.

These people don't want to argue. They don't want "dialogue," and they cant be bothered with "Truth," another white male construct. They want resources. Your resources.

They can't build civilization on their own. Not the kind we had been blessed with. They'd rather tear it all down and scrap what they can than live with that eternal shame.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 10, 2018 2:06 PM  

@TM Lutas

They have to go back.

Blogger cmbaileytstc July 10, 2018 2:08 PM  

Why have people never heard the Naturalization Act if 1790? Created by the same generation civgnats worship as inspired geniuses it specified that naturalization be limited to free Whites of good character, completely demolishing the myth that the FFs intended this country to be a melting pot of all races.

Blogger Insight July 10, 2018 2:14 PM  

"I have yet to see a single civic nationalist advocate stripping citizenship from any "American" who fails to adhere to whatever the proposition of the "proposition nation" is supposed to be."


Wasn't the USSR a "proposition" nation?

Blogger Insight July 10, 2018 2:19 PM  

"Proposition nation", "civic nationalist" are vague and specious terms loaded with emotive ideation most likely by design.

Blogger Sam July 10, 2018 2:45 PM  

@41
Amusingly enough, no. It was made up of Soviet Republics which were ethnically defined as well as autonomous regions (also ethnically defined). Citizens carried internal passports which included their ethnicity (you could pick if your parents had different ones).

Blogger Elijah July 10, 2018 2:59 PM  

you guys better make friends with mr mossberg and mr remington right quick!!

Blogger freddie_mac July 10, 2018 3:26 PM  

Interesting article here: https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/08/america-is-not-a-nation-of-immigrants/

The writer (Pedro Gonzales) is quite disparaging towards civic nationalists, and bumps into the posterity concepts several times but doesn't fully embrace posterity. Here's a few examples:

"If America has always been a nation of immigrants, why then did Ted Kennedy and others feel the need to reassure Americans that this nation would not be inundated by foreigners? This suggests that America was not, in fact, a nation of immigrants in the 1960s, and politicians aware of this spoke in this way to reassure a public equally aware of it and certainly unwilling to see America become a nation of immigrants."

"In 1797, John Jay noted specific attributes of American identity. In doing so, Jay did not simply adumbrate what “makes an American,” but made a distinction between settlers and immigrants. These are language (English), manners and customs (Anglo-Protestant), religion (Christianity), principles of government (British). 'We must,' Jay said of newcomers, “see our people more Americanized.' "

Blogger AaMcavoy July 10, 2018 3:35 PM  

Duke Norfolk wrote:VD wrote:I have yet to see a single civic nationalist advocate stripping citizenship from any "American" who fails to adhere to whatever the proposition of the "proposition nation" is supposed to be.

Exactly. And the fact that there would have to be periodic Inquisition to ensure that the Propositional Citizens are maintaining the current Propositions.


If "America" is based on a civic religion that anyone can join, then there has to be a means of determining heresy and inquiring into individual's devotion. A state religion, if you will.
Because of conservatives' fear of the Spanish Inquisition or abuses of a state religion, they've given up any kind of policing ("The Constitution says no religious tests!").
And what happened? The Left made Progressivism the state religion, and Facebook/Twitter will inquire into your devotion and help you get fired from your job.

Blogger Hammerli280 July 10, 2018 3:37 PM  

@45: Yes. Theodore Roosevelt had much the same thing to say. Culture is essential...and where cultures collide, there's going to be big trouble.

@44: You DO realize, don't you, that most of us have been shooting for decades?

Blogger AaMcavoy July 10, 2018 3:39 PM  

Mocheirge wrote:

New Jerseyans can't pronounce it correctly, either. Perhaps coincidentally, I don't think there is any founding stock left in New Jersey.

There are a few. They live between the cornfields and the patches of woods. They may be cucked like the rest of the US, but they are descendants of the actual Americans.

Blogger Elijah July 10, 2018 3:39 PM  

i do realize most here have been shooting for decades. but you can never sound the alarm to often.

Blogger Gettimothy July 10, 2018 3:43 PM  

I have read that in California, illegals are issued drivers licenses. In California, a driver's license allies you to vote.

Blogger SirHamster July 10, 2018 3:58 PM  

widlast washere wrote:Pity that Russia has such crappy weather

Harsh environments filter out the riff-raff. Suffering brings blessing, but we don't like suffering.

Blogger tz July 10, 2018 4:34 PM  

VDH Gets that intermarriage and halfbreeds might not be all that good

Blogger Pseudotsuga July 10, 2018 4:49 PM  

Colin Flaherty's baby momma wrote:TM Lutas

The majority of American Africans can't even properly pronounce the word "ask." How many more centuries, how many more programs, how many more trillions wasted will it take for them to assimilate?



It's not actually a "black" pronunciation, but the lingering of another, older English.
"Ask" has been pronounced as "axe" for over 1000 years or so (see Chaucer and Shakespeare), deriving from the Old English "acsian" (pronounced correctly as "ax-ee-uhn", but then slurred over the centuries to become "ask".
It's like the difference between "whale/hwale", "walrus/hwalus," "what/hwaet."
The "more white" pronunciation is like the difference between BBC Received English and English as she is spoke in the countryside-- it's a later affectation, probably meant as a status marker.

But to stay on topic -- as a citizen of the world, I demand the right to vote in all elections.
If I live in country X as a guest, or a resident alien, or a student, then I demand the right to vote there, too.
If I can't vote in elections of country X, then citizens of that country cannot vote in mine. It's only fair.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 10, 2018 4:57 PM  

@11

"President Trump needs to simply declare those areas allowing non-citizens to vote (or failing to exercise due diligence in ensuring that voters are citizens) to have forefeited representation in Congress."

They are DEFINITELY in a state of rebellion, and it should be put down with troops.

Blogger tz July 10, 2018 5:38 PM  

I shall have to attempt to attend a governor debate suggesting cutting funding for any diversity initiatives. I think the candidates would be receptive
given the icon is the Cowboy

Not to exclude the fierce pioneer women cowgirls who earned the right to vote in our equality state. Think the alpha female in a pack of wolves, or mama grizzly.

Blogger cheddarman July 10, 2018 5:40 PM  

propositional nation is another word for empire.

Blogger Avalanche July 10, 2018 6:38 PM  

@25 "But what I want to know is why people who were always Americans in their hearts, but were located in places like Portugal or the Congo, can't vote in American elections without the inconvenience of actually moving to America....Oh, the injustice!"

Can't mail the welfare checks there and ensure they're not stolen in the local post office...

Blogger Avalanche July 10, 2018 6:45 PM  

@38 "Not the kind we had been blessed with."

We weren't "blessed with" a "civilization of /our/ own" -- our forebears worked and sweated and bled to BUILD this "civilization of our own"! We DID build that! We were BLESSED with the intelligence and abilities to make us capable of such feats of civilization -- that these third-world animals do not have! But to say we were 'blessed with' deprecates that our people worked long and hard to build and maintain it... This was no 'gift'; this was a reward for hard labor and dedication!

Blogger Warunicorn July 10, 2018 7:07 PM  

"B-b-but...they pay taxes 'n stuff!"

I love this reason for wanting to let them vote. So what if they pay taxes? They're here by our good graces and that's it. Can't be a self-governing society otherwise.

I want them to go back. Lord knows they send the money to the countries they're from rather than spending it here. I see Ecuadorians all the time wiring cash to Ecuador at a local supermarket.

Blogger tublecane July 10, 2018 7:26 PM  

I wasn't aware how corrupted minds had become on this issue in mainstream conservative circles before Trump came along and prospects for reversing immivasion brightened. Talk radio is all but dead to me, but I happened to be listening last night to a couple of guys on the subject of immigrants in the armed forces suddenly and mysteriously getting discharged and losing their privilege to be in the country.

Serving is supposed to be a path to citizenship, which is a good thing because we need bodies to fight Israel's wars?

Furthermore, they told of the deep desire of one Chinamen from youth to come to America. He studied its ideas and fed the little American inside himself with American tv and movies. Which pretty much made him American.

They even brought up how immigrant soldiers are better than natives, because they have greater incentive to do well. Also, immigrants in general are better than natives, because they work harder and commit fewer crimes.

Honestly, I don't remember conservatives being like this in the past.

Blogger tublecane July 10, 2018 7:30 PM  

@4- You don't even have to register where I live. You don't even have to show proof of residence. I had my roommate vouch for me election day.

Blogger tublecane July 10, 2018 7:33 PM  

"to make city elections more inclusive"

Is there literally anyone who cares about that goal?

Blogger Mark Stoval July 10, 2018 7:36 PM  

@60

"Honestly, I don't remember conservatives being like this in the past."

And lo a sickness came upon the land, the men were reduced to girly-boys and the women went permanently hysterical without leadership.

In the end days, there was nothing left to conserve. The degeneracy of only a few generations before became as pure snow compared to the degeneracy of the prideful hell-bound degenerates of the last days.

The residents of Sodom would have been shocked and dismayed at the bestial nature of the soy-boys and the manly harlots who ruled the land.

Blogger Anthony July 10, 2018 9:38 PM  

Wrong. In California, filling out a form and checking the box makes you registered to vote. There is *no* checking of registrations unless you have an uncommon name and are registered in the same county, or check the box saying you moved.

In over 30 years, I've never been asked for ID to vote. I give my name and address, they find me on the roster, I sign, and they give me a ballot.

In California, the register of voters doesn't know you're a dog.

Blogger Anne July 11, 2018 12:49 PM  

Whereas where I live, the elementary school secretary that knew me in second grade still asks me for my ID.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 2:03 PM  

@32

"The majority of American Africans can't even properly pronounce the word "ask."

This has always bugged me, too.

I wonder if it's some sort of dyslexic problem, or do they mispronounce the word on purpose?"

It HAS to be on purpose.

Growing up the 60/70s/80s, with the entire nations all exposed to the exact same TV shows, and standard use of the English language, there is absolutely NO excuse for anyone who was a child growing up anywhere in the U.S., whose family had a TV, to not speak proper English.

It's linguistic separatism. It's just like the constant misuse of technical words that sound similar, but have radically different meanings, than to the correct one.

An example (fictitious, but in the pattern): in Full Metal Jacket, where Private Snowball describes Oswald as being "in that book suppository".

Now obviously he KNOWS the correct word is depository, otherwise he wouldn't be using a word that sounds almost like it, but means a gelatin medicine capsule which melts when inserted into an orifice of the body.

Yes, this example is fiction, but you hear them say things like this in real life.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 2:14 PM  

@59

"I want them to go back. Lord knows they send the money to the countries they're from rather than spending it here. I see Ecuadorians all the time wiring cash to Ecuador at a local supermarket."

Isn't it strange how people who are working under the table for below minimum wage, are able to afford rent, utilities, and food, and STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER after every paycheck to wire to some south-of-the-border shithole....

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 2:19 PM  

@60

"but I happened to be listening last night to a couple of guys on the subject of immigrants in the armed forces suddenly and mysteriously getting discharged and losing their privilege to be in the country. "

1) That program has extremely strict requirements to stay in. Any disciplinary action, either military or civilian, and you get kicked out.

2) The program is being shut down for lack of need. They are accepting no new applicants, and those who are in it, are being allowed to stay in only on the recommendation of their chain of command.
All others are being sent home, even with no disciplinary actions. Basically, only the absolute best are being retained -- the type who impresses the hell out of his platoon sergeant, first sergeant, and company commander.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 2:26 PM  

@53

"It's not actually a "black" pronunciation, but the lingering of another, older English.
"Ask" has been pronounced as "axe" for over 1000 years or so (see Chaucer and Shakespeare), deriving from the Old English "acsian" (pronounced correctly as "ax-ee-uhn", but then slurred over the centuries to become "ask".
It's like the difference between "whale/hwale", "walrus/hwalus," "what/hwaet.""

I find the notion that the black population are the keepers of the repository of Tudor English to not only pass Occam's Razor, but doesn't even pass the laugh-test, either.

The first slaves weren't brought here until some slave-owning African brought some with him. The slaves somehow managed to get into court to sue for their freedom. The court ruled in favor of their African master.

This didn't happen until the 1700's, when the Habsburgs had already taken over the English throne.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 11, 2018 3:52 PM  

I find the notion that the black population are the keepers of the repository of Tudor English to not only ***NOT*** pass Occam's Razor,

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