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Thursday, July 12, 2018

Darkstream with Ethan van Sciver

Cancel that. We had technical difficulties, so just join Ethan's channel, we'll do it there. Here is the link if you want to listen.

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24 Comments:

Blogger Dave July 12, 2018 6:42 PM  

Aha awesome.

Blogger SmockMan July 12, 2018 6:50 PM  

Nice.

Blogger David The Good July 12, 2018 6:52 PM  

I thought you were evil, Vox. And here you are talking with Ethan still. Can't even trust the MSM anymore...

Blogger Dave July 12, 2018 7:08 PM  

It was live but I'm on mobile and couldn't see chat.

Blogger Jeffro July 12, 2018 7:09 PM  

Link???

Blogger Dave July 12, 2018 7:11 PM  

I'm on his YouTube channel how do you find live broadcasts?

Blogger Janus July 12, 2018 7:11 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUhIdnLFA44

Should be it.

Blogger Dave July 12, 2018 7:14 PM  

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nUhIdnLFA44

Blogger Dave July 12, 2018 7:16 PM  

Yeah that's it.

Blogger Quilp July 12, 2018 7:50 PM  

Tune in, its a great conversation.

Blogger lowercaseb July 12, 2018 8:08 PM  

"TWO MEN ENTER!!!!"
"TWO MEN....um...have a very productive and informative conversation? Damn...I guess they are not going to need these sledge hammers and spiked baseball bats."

Blogger Salt July 12, 2018 8:37 PM  

Great discussion.

Blogger Bogey July 12, 2018 8:39 PM  

Kudos to Ethan for realizing that he and Vox are pretty much on the same side, and knowing better than to turn this into a debate.

Blogger mike mike July 12, 2018 8:47 PM  

There is no wonder why EVS has 70k subs... he is a natural at the youtube format. Really good at talking on his own and is even better as an interviewer. He let's people talk but still steers the conversation.

Blogger Silly but True July 13, 2018 12:04 AM  

Since the sociosexual hierarchy was covered, what's the level beneath a cucked Omega? Because this guy is a walking Encyclopedia Dramatica:
https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1017352777037561856?s=19

Blogger Shimshon July 13, 2018 3:12 AM  

Halfway through and a great listen.

I've had multiple programmers elevated to managers as bosses who had no business managing anyone. One didn't even strike me as all that talented programming. He was Russian, so the cultural differences can confuse things, but he definitely exhibited much gamma behavior. Russian-infused gamma, but still gamma. He fired me (on the flimsiest of pretexts) less than six months in, and then as I am leaving, grumbles about all the extra work he has to do since he now had to pick up my work load (which was considerable and of very high quality). Last I heard, he was demoted and is now just a code monkey. He was a bad manager, but fancied himself a very good one.

Another boss, who was a wunderkind on Wall Street, on his first management gig, gave me several small bonuses and numerous praise the first six months or so. Then, every single member of my team got hugely negative annual reviews not too long after. So did I, along with a 4% raise, and a demotion to QA (at the same higher pay). How do you make sense of that? It was soul killing. I quit soon after. In fairness, I think his style improved since then.

I have one friend who made the transition, and it seems like he has done so successfully. He explained some of the tricks about managing teams. It doesn't sound easy.

Blogger Longtime Lurker July 13, 2018 5:55 AM  

That discussion was well worth the time. Looking forward to the next one.

Blogger wreckage July 13, 2018 7:59 AM  

Top stuff. Proof that the SDL can take a break from impaling his enemies and tormenting the shades of the dead. Speaking of which, I just realized the ACKS supplement I bought recently DELIBERATELY included a Supreme Dark Lord character class.

"The Heroic Fantasy Handbook" is great stuff. Really brings some Tolkien to DnD.

Blogger James Dixon July 13, 2018 10:02 AM  

> He explained some of the tricks about managing teams. It doesn't sound easy.

It isn't. The technical details aren't too hard, but managing people will kill you if you don't have the temperament for it. I did it just long enough (with a good crew, the real manager had a heart attack) to know it wasn't for me.

Blogger Joseph Maroney July 13, 2018 10:16 AM  

"There is no wonder why EVS has 70k subs... he is a natural at the youtube format. Really good at talking on his own and is even better as an interviewer. He let's people talk but still steers the conversation."

He is a natural. He would make an exceptional main stream radio host back in the day, though that is basically what his youtube channel is - he has said as much.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas July 13, 2018 11:55 AM  

Vox, did you mean to include Roosh and Roissy in your comments about pickup artists becoming jokes?

I assumed you didn't, since you've always had a decent relationship with both, I just wanted to clarify since the wording was a little confusing and I'm sure most EVS listeners don't understand the distinction between those guys and generic "PUA" dorks.

Blogger SirHamster July 13, 2018 12:23 PM  

Nikephoros II Phokas wrote:Vox, did you mean to include Roosh and Roissy in your comments about pickup artists becoming jokes?

The general statement is true, and I don't think of either of those two as just pickup artists.

If the only mission a man has is to pickup women, he's irrelevant except as a nuisance to communities that protect theirs.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas July 13, 2018 1:26 PM  

I agree completely.

The pickup artist community is a joke, but Roosh and Roissy aren't just pickup artists.

That's why I don't think Vox meant to lump them in with the "joke" comment, it was just an aside. But I wanted to make sure there wasn't some kind of falling out that I missed.

Blogger jSinSaTx July 13, 2018 4:51 PM  

I have only seen VD refer to Heartiste in positive terms. VD has observed the growth of Roosh. I would assume he wasn’t grouping them. The only friction point I am aware of is Dalrock making some comments about VD’s respect for married men and then being delisted from alphagame in that similar timeframe.

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