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Thursday, July 05, 2018

It could have been worse

We should probably take it easy on Disney for creating SJW Wars. Sure, they irretrievably and unnecessarily ruined the epic space opera franchise, but what most people don't know is that George Lucas was going to ruin it anyhow.
The two-time best director Oscar nominee confided his vision to none other than James Cameron, who interviewed Lucas for “Space,” the second episode of his recent six-part AMC series “James Cameron’s Story of Science Fiction.” A transcript from their talk appears in the companion book of the same name, published by Insight Editions on May 18. In it, Lucas reveals that he would have turned his gaze from the cosmos to what can be viewed only under a microscope.

“[The next three ‘Star Wars’ films] were going to get into a microbiotic world,” he told Cameron. “There’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.”

Elsewhere in the conversation, Lucas admitted, “Everybody hated it in ‘Phantom Menace’ [when] we started talking about midi-chlorians.” In terms of his storytelling, Lucas regarded individuals as “vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”
Say what you will about Soylo and Space Leia and Ninja Pixie Force Princess and the Magic Negro Stormtrooper, but even the sum total of those unmitigated disasters still isn't as bad as The Fantastic Star Wars Voyage: Free Whillies would have been.

This following video, however, is pretty cool. It's a collection of 3D animation clips based on Ralph Mcquarrie's original concept art for The Star Wars. When I was a kid, I had a collection of these concept sketches that were sold printed in color on oversized glossy paper.

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78 Comments:

Blogger The Kurgan July 05, 2018 6:57 AM  

It’s not just me, right?
The apocalypse seems to be going from brisk walk to galloping towards us on all fronts.

Blogger Megamerc July 05, 2018 7:08 AM  

That... is awful. Lucas really lost it

Blogger tuberman July 05, 2018 7:08 AM  

Jordan Peterson would have loved this, as the Whills could be a physical embodiment of archetypes in humans on the micro level.

Blogger tuberman July 05, 2018 7:14 AM  

The Kurgan wrote:It’s not just me, right?

The apocalypse seems to be going from brisk walk to galloping towards us on all fronts.


You are responding with FEAR, UNCERTAINTY, AND DOUBT, and this is just the crazy desire of the Left that people like you will see it this way.

No, they are desperate, hoping they can create fear with last surge BS, and you are falling for it. Chin up. Suck it IN!

Blogger Constantin July 05, 2018 7:16 AM  

"Careful what you wish for," will be my response from now one for every Billionth time a Star Wars fan cries "We want George Lucas back!"

Blogger Mark Stoval July 05, 2018 7:20 AM  

What I don't understand is that George Lucas was able to make two very good movies that started the franchise.

It appears that Lucas is really and idiot. How did he do the first two?

Blogger Salt July 05, 2018 7:24 AM  

Whill: Operator
Operator: midi-chlorian here
Whill: Ring up Han Solo's leading Whill
Operator: I'm sorry, all circuits are busy. Please try your call later.

Blogger Michael Maier July 05, 2018 7:25 AM  

I have said for years that Lucas is the luckiest hack in Hollywood history. The greatness of EMPIRE was in spite of him, not because of him.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len July 05, 2018 7:27 AM  

Whenever a "creative" is allowed complete freedom, the results are inevitably disastrously self-indulgent and incoherent. People like Lucas already have a hard time telling a good idea from a bad one, or realizing one good idea doesn't make a story. If you let 'em run wild, they run right off the nearest cliff.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 05, 2018 7:28 AM  

Lucas regarded individuals as “vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”

The SJWs dug this one out a couple of weeks ago when they were transitioning from Anger to the Bargaining stage of grief over the seismic failure of Soylo and Soy Wars in general.

There way of saying George's version would have sucked worse than what we came up with.

So on general principal, I refuse to admit I would have hated this.

Blogger tuberman July 05, 2018 7:32 AM  

"The SJWs dug this one out a couple of weeks ago when they were transitioning from Anger to the Bargaining stage of grief over the seismic failure of Soylo and Soy Wars in general.

There way of saying George's version would have sucked worse than what we came up with."

Yes, but it is all desperation, signs that they are losing in every way. The Culture Wars are even turning on them.

Blogger Skyler the Weird July 05, 2018 7:37 AM  

I have the original paperback that came out in December 1976. It has the original McQuarrie art on the cover. Darth Vader's helmet has a very Japanese Samarai feel.

Blogger tuberman July 05, 2018 7:38 AM  

Over the last two years, what I have seen is constant Hail Mary's. They have sped up (or tried to speed up) agendas that were supposed to take three to four times as long, exposing their agenda to even morons. This is not good for them, it is the beginning of their end.

Blogger tuberman July 05, 2018 7:51 AM  

The reason why those c"concepts" were not implemented then, is that they would have failed and fallen totally flat.

What's important is the failing of today's "Star Wars," but if those early concepts were used, we would not have even been talking about that idiot movie now (the different movie without individuals). Today's "Star Wars" is the only reality, and it is almost dead. An earlier death would have been better.

Blogger VoodooJock July 05, 2018 8:03 AM  

Space Syphilis probably could have explained the last 3 installments in the franchise.

Blogger Starboard July 05, 2018 8:11 AM  

6. Mark Stoval. "It appears that Lucas is really and idiot. How did he do the first two?"

Not as well as you remember. I don't think he even knew Luke and Leia were twins, or he just didn'tcare. I still shudder at the idea of Leia kissing her twin brother to make space chad jealous.

"Shut up whills." Even Madeleine L'Engle did a better job of micro-microscopic life force creatures.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( "an entirely disconnected spew of word vomit" ) July 05, 2018 8:16 AM  

this may or may not have been George's actual plan for ep7-9.

Lucas has a long history of trolling the SW fandom. first he edited ep4 to show Greedo shooting before Han. THEN George started wearing a shirt that said, "Han shot first".

and, of course, anyone who has seen the original story meeting notes for ep 4 or original edits knows that George was going to create a complete disaster anyways. George got saved by the people around him.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/han-shot-first

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 05, 2018 8:18 AM  

Lucas nearly wrecked the first Star Wars movie.

I recently watched a mini-documentary (aprox 20 minutes) on the editing process of Star Wars.

And let me tell you, the first cut was nothing short of awful and incomprehensible. The tone shifted constantly and pointlessly. The narrative was absolutely confusing as hell. And the audience was just bombarded with TMI.

In short Star Wars as envisioned by Lucas was even WORSE than The Last Jedi. And I am not joking.

In the original, the text crawl is practically a history book. Then the battle starts just as we remember it. The ship is boarded and C-3P0 and R2 race through the middle of the fire-fight from left to right ending with an explosion on the right, again just as we remember it.

Then things take a turn. Right after the aforementioned ka-boom, quick cut to 3P0 covered in wires and junk. "Help, I'm melting! This is all your fault!" That where that scene was originally.

In the middle of a tense battle, Lucas killed the tone of tension and fear for a slapstick joke.

And it gets worse.

The film then wipe cuts to "some rando kid" in a boonie hat and pajamas and his apparently useless robot named, "treadwell". They watch the battle on the ground and then the kid whines at the robot a little and then jumps into his landspeeder and takes off.

Then it cuts back to the battle. Lucas' original version of the film did this three times. It absolutely butchered any sense of tone the film could have had.

It was terrible and there was a lot more of it. Although you did get to see Tosche's Station and yeah, it's a dump.

That was our introduction to Luke and Tatooine.

But now think of the version we saw. When R2 and 3P0 landed we knew absolutely nothing about Tatooine. Was there even human life on it? We didn't get an answer to that until we finally met Uncle Owen and Luke.

There was an air of mystery and fear about the planet while 3P0 is wandering lost and alone.

My point is this. Star Wars was saved from the ravages of George Lucas by the editing team, headed by his (former) wife. Back then Lucas would listen to good advice because he was hungry. When he got fat he stopped listening and divorced his wife.

The documentary is posted at my blog. Comments there are currently being monitored. Minor SJW seige, nothing to worry about.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira July 05, 2018 8:23 AM  

The Whills?

That would have been way gayer.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums July 05, 2018 8:40 AM  

I recommend SciFi Debris' documentary on Lucas. It paints a clear picture of what Lucas is and what he is not especially when dealing with Star Wars Episode I.

Lucas would have ruined Star Wars either way because Lucas never really cared about storytelling. To him movies were about creation, not telling a story per se. He wanted to create a whole universe in his vision and never write a good story.

His domain was special effects, and computers, and cameras, and costumes, etc. Story was always secondary, if that.

This is why Star Wars fans hate him. They don't understand him and he doesn't understand them. He thinks they like Star Wars because of the lightsabers, the alien costumes, the special effects, and so on. This is why he keeps editing his old work and keeps adding to it, he genuinely believes he's improving them much like a painter can't stop working on a painting. He thinks this is what the audience demands and unfortunately this is what he gives to the audience and nothing more because he can't fathom there being anything more.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( "an entirely disconnected spew of word vomit" ) July 05, 2018 8:42 AM  

18. Cataline Sergius July 05, 2018 8:18 AM
The film then wipe cuts to "some rando kid" in a boonie hat and pajamas and his apparently useless robot named, "treadwell".



notice also that there was an entitled princess character on Tatooine who got cut entirely from the film. only, she wasn't an actual Princess, that's just the way women treat men ( especially Luke, since he's both the hero of the story and the audience insert character ) in a Star Wars universe.

ie - constantly shitting on them.

the existence of a peasant princess acting the exact same way as Leia totally cuts the legs out from under Leia's character.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 05, 2018 8:44 AM  

Looking at the trailer I suddenly realized that a lot of Ralph Mcquarrie's art work got recycled for use in Star War's Rebels.

I'm sure the uber nerds already knew that but it was a pleasant little surprise for me.

Blogger wreckage July 05, 2018 8:47 AM  

How did Lucas make two good movies?
Leigh Brackett.

Blogger The Kurgan July 05, 2018 8:55 AM  

Tubernan:
You are responding with FEAR, UNCERTAINTY, AND DOUBT, and this is just the crazy desire of the Left that people like you will see it this way.

Listen moron, you CLEARLY haven’t got even a remote iota of a clue who or what I am, because that comment just identified you as the least unaware of the recent spate of idiots who comment here thinking anyone cares what you do or think or write.

You are as ignorant of the people who’ve been here a while as it’s possible to be. So hush up, read, think and try to learn. Though I doubt your natural stupidity and hubris will let you.

Blogger The Kurgan July 05, 2018 8:56 AM  

+1 am especially virulent form

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 05, 2018 9:04 AM  

I thought TFA and the character Finn put an end to the numinous negro shtick, and frankly our African-American brethren should be thankful for that. Never put your fate in the hands of women and gammas, its why I hate beta white knighters, conservative intellectuals and just plain old dorks, they want to share the life boat with them, frick that I'll swim to shore.

Blogger The Gray Man July 05, 2018 9:08 AM  

@ The Kurgan:

The way you phrased it did kind of sound like you were being a negative defeatist.

Blogger Nathan July 05, 2018 9:13 AM  

Hey, at least it's not just a rehash. It sounds like, gasp, an original idea. And with Lucas's track record, who knows what we might have ended up with.

What we *did* end up with is crap, so no SJWs should be telling anyone to be grateful for it.

The problem with criticizing movies that didn't get made is just that: the movie didn't get made. It reminds me of people that think Jodorwski's Dune would have been some epic sci-fi classic. It wouldn't have been because it just wasn't feasible. Sure, they have some cool aftwork and concept paintings, but the whole thing would have probably wound up looking like Barbarella. You have to judge the movie that gets made, not the movie you wish they had made. I like to think in some alternate universe there's a bunch of people writing about how awesome it would have been if they let David Lynch make Dune, or J.J. Abrams take a shot at Star Wars.

Blogger Volpack July 05, 2018 9:21 AM  

I speak Kurgan. Translated: The apocalypse is speeding up on its own, which means it is time to give it the spurs and crop and ride hell-bent for leather.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 05, 2018 9:21 AM  

Speaking of characters and movies that won't be made in the SW uni, the "creators" should rip off JC Wright's Yumiko Moth as their heroine for the next savior of the galaxy. But they won't because they cannot, and I think of them as the robots in Westworld writing their own code from reading bad Hugo winning romance novels, Lord Buddha would give up on them.

Blogger Zach July 05, 2018 9:21 AM  

It could have been "Triumph of the Whills"

Blogger Sillon Bono July 05, 2018 9:33 AM  

@18

It is widely known that Empire came to be the way it came to be because Lucas had almost no involvement on it.

When the movie was released he was absolutely fuming because it was literally too good.

His reasoning was that to sell toys anything does.

He was partially involved on JEDI, and you can tell which parts was he involved with.

Blogger Bogey July 05, 2018 9:36 AM  

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Blogger Ransom Smith July 05, 2018 9:41 AM  

For those who don't know:
Lucas was raised Methodist.
But got into eastern religion and now pretty much admits he's a practicing Buddhist.
Also he's now married to a black woman.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 05, 2018 9:48 AM  

wreckage wrote:How did Lucas make two good movies?

Leigh Brackett.



That one is easy.

His ex-wife Marcia Lucas was the behind-the-throne adviser, brains and counselor.

You will note that after she left him, the quality of his work absolutely tanked.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums July 05, 2018 9:50 AM  

Forgot to add. Watch the documentary Jodorowsky's Dune.

Long story short: Lucas at some point got his hands on the concept art and script for the original Dune movie (NOT the David Lynch one) and created Star Wars. The whole franchise is a Dune clone with a facelift.

Not exactly related but Ridley Scott was also exposed to the ideas and work for the original Dune movie. This is what the whole Alien series is, expanded universe Dune fanfiction. The planet they landed on in Prometheus was Arrakis.

Blogger TheMaleRei July 05, 2018 10:17 AM  

For what little it's worth, I'd always heard about / from Lucas regarding episodes 7-9 was that Luke was to fall to the Dark Side and the whole thing would be about a cycle of history or some such.

This microscopic nonsense? Gag me.

Luke turning evil would have been a better episode 7 & 8 than what we got, surely - unless of course it was to showcase the strong wamens saving the day from the Patriarchy - which is basically what we got anyways.

Blogger Cloom Glue July 05, 2018 10:25 AM  

Maybe it is obvious, but I think worth mentioning, the Free Whills has three versions, Sam Harris and Calvin and Hindu gods saying the characters are not responsible. It got mentioned here: The sovereign God of the hyper-Calvinist and the nonexistent God of the atheist lead the adherent to the same conclusion: Man is not responsible for his actions. http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/05/free-will-and-utilitarian-objective.html

Blogger Ronin F9 July 05, 2018 10:27 AM  

Mark Stoval wrote:It appears that Lucas is really and idiot. How did he do the first two?

Francis Ford Coppolla, Steven Speilberg, John Milus, Marcia Lucas, Gary Kurtz, Alan Ladd Jr. and a bunch of other people with real talent where around Lucas helping him. Mostly by telling him "No, that is stupid!"

Its all laid out in Michael Kaminski’s "The Secret History of Star Wars."

Blogger Johnny July 05, 2018 10:30 AM  

6. Mark Stoval. "It appears that Lucas is really and idiot. How did he do the first two?"

Without intending any deprecation to the Star Wars movies or their fans, the real key to their success is that they have a childish appeal. Because we really do have an inner child, a remembrance of our childhood experiences, childish material works very well with adults when you can slip it by them without them noticing the basic childish character of it. That is essentially what Lucas accomplished with his over the top (for the era) special effects. The guy is a great film maker but not a sophisticated one. He appeals to the inner child but has no grand adult vision.

With his elaborate animation Walt Disney accomplished the same thing. And the Wizard of Oz comes to min.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey July 05, 2018 10:37 AM  

Also, don't forget the quiet contributions of Carrie Fisher, who went on to develop a reputation as a go-to 'script savior' in Hollywood. She was an excellent writer helping out with lore, background and narrative cohesion through the first three films. She was even writing background lore for Alec Guiness, who was not happy about the mess he found himself in, so he could understand and get into his character.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 05, 2018 10:41 AM  

@12

"I have the original paperback that came out in December 1976. It has the original McQuarrie art on the cover. Darth Vader's helmet has a very Japanese Samarai feel."

But..but... how can that BE? (((WE))) (((ALL))) know that the only EVIL nation EVER (besides the United States) is NAZI Germany!

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 05, 2018 10:49 AM  

Good Lord, it's horrifying.

Blogger Normie Normie July 05, 2018 11:04 AM  

Keep in mind that these "leaks" of Lucas's plans have been published by DisneyStarWars shills. Let's not play their game.

Clearly there is no real love for Star Wars at Disney. They're willing to throw Lucas under the bus in a cheap attempt to direct attention away from their own dismal product.

Blogger Matthew July 05, 2018 11:10 AM  

@18

"And let me tell you, the first cut was nothing short of awful and incomprehensible. The tone shifted constantly and pointlessly. The narrative was absolutely confusing as hell. And the audience was just bombarded with TMI."

The first cut was a disaster, which Lucas recognized and fired the editor. He finally got someone who edited the way he wanted. Your understanding of Lucas and Star Wars is marred by misinformation.

Star Wars was not Lucas's first movie. American Graffiti and THX-3278423725172134875 or whatever the hell it's called are well shot movies. He was a director of talent, and Star Wars is a wonderful movie due in large part to his vision and talent.

The fact that he made turds later on is not at all strange. Most directors have high and low points in their careers, and oftentimes there are vast distances between the highs and lows. Look at Wolfgang Peterson, Alfred Hitchcock, Billy Wilder, Francis Ford Coppola, Michael Mann... all directors who made brilliant films during their best years, but bland crap at other times.

Ever since the prequels people have tried to retcon history and take credit away from George Lucas for what he did. It's not at all fair. The man had his moment and made some fine cinema, then he lost it, like so many others.

Blogger Brick Hardslab July 05, 2018 11:11 AM  

I read once that the cast and crew helped Lucas with the first two. On his own he creates muddy messes. Of course, the force is female crowd raped star wars up the ass with a hot poker.

Things can always get worse. With Star Wars it could have been so much better.

Blogger Patrick Kelly July 05, 2018 11:20 AM  

"He thinks they like Star Wars because of the lightsabers, the alien costumes, the special effects,..."

Why else would I go to the theater to watch a movie on the big screen with loud esploady sounds?

When I want to indulge in character and story appreciation I'll stay at home and watch classics like "Groundhog Day", "Princess Bride", or "Joe vs. The Volcano".

Kids these days.

Blogger Matthew July 05, 2018 11:22 AM  

@36

"The whole franchise is a Dune clone with a facelift... This is what the whole Alien series is, expanded universe Dune fanfiction."

Dude, stop. There is a vast chasm inbetween being influenced by a work and making a clone of it. Calling the whole Alien series expanded universe Dune fanfiction is not a comment that can be taken seriously.

Blogger Patrick Kelly July 05, 2018 11:23 AM  

Duck Dodger, now that's some good sci-fi.

Blogger Patrick Kelly July 05, 2018 11:24 AM  

Or Marvin the Martian and our hero Bugz.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 05, 2018 11:24 AM  

@23 wreckage
How did Lucas make two good movies?
Leigh Brackett.
---

This.

Blogger Mister Excitement July 05, 2018 11:37 AM  

Red Letter Media has called George Lucas the luckiest man in Hollywood.

Star Wars was completely saved in post production editing. He also got the rights to the Star Wars merchandising. Back then merchandising from movies was tiny, so the studio gave it to him.

Those two factors propelled a no-talent hack to mogul status.

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis July 05, 2018 11:42 AM  

I guess the real question to ask is, would Lucas have had the Whills conduct sexual relations with 11-, 12-, or 15-year-old girls. Alas, we may never know.

Blogger flyingtiger July 05, 2018 11:43 AM  

The first Star wars movie was Gary Kurtz's movies. He just wanted a fun adventure film. After the second movie Lucas gained control. Also, Lucas's wife, who was the editor, left. At this point the purpose of the movies was to push toys, for that is where Lucas was making most of his money.

Blogger Stickwick Stapers July 05, 2018 11:49 AM  

The Whills go all the way back to Lucas' first attempt to craft the Star Wars story in 1973, which he titled Journal of the Whills. At that time, he was vague about who they were and what form they took, but they were wise, immortal beings of some kind. He eventually abandoned this idea and went with the Force and Jedis. It sounds like Lucas was planning to meld the two ideas for the new trilogy.

Ronin F9: Francis Ford Coppolla, Steven Speilberg, John Milus, Marcia Lucas, Gary Kurtz, Alan Ladd Jr. and a bunch of other people with real talent where around Lucas helping him. Mostly by telling him "No, that is stupid!"

Chris Taylor also covered this in How Star Wars Conquered the Universe. Lucas had a vision and worked exceptionally hard to make the first film happen -- which he also saved in editing at the last minute -- but he worked far better in collaboration with better and more experienced writers.

wreckage: How did Lucas make two good movies?
Leigh Brackett.


AKSHUALLY, Brackett only contributed to the first draft of one movie -- Empire -- before she died of cancer, and much of what she came up with was thankfully scrapped in the final version. She was much more focused on the love triangle between Luke, Leia, and Han, and had endless love scenes in the script. (What is it with chick writers and love triangles?) She even portrayed Chewy as some kind of jealous c---blocker. She also wrote Vader as a sort of administrator in a castle instead of on his Super Star Destroyer hunting down Rebels. After Brackett died, Kasdan ended up throwing all of this out.

Blogger Stickwick Stapers July 05, 2018 11:52 AM  

Few people realize how influential McQuarrie's art was on the original Star Wars trilogy. He's almost solely responsible for creating the looks of the characters, sets, and vehicles. In fact, it was McQuarrie's art that inspired Fox to give Lucas the budget to make the first movie.

I still have the full portfolios of McQuarrie's art prints for all three films. Someday I'm going to frame them.

Blogger tuberman July 05, 2018 12:01 PM  

24. The Kurgan

HA!

Naw, I know that you want a Civil War, and now, but it's not going to happen for at least a decade, so calm down. I put you on the opposite, as it was fun.

And, if you want to force things early, go ahead, I'd love to see you go after it, and show your stuff. DO SOMETHING. PLEASE.

Name calling, brilliant! If no civil war happens in the the next year, and no apocalypse ... and you said it is "galloping towards us on all fronts." That should mean it will be here or obvious before 2019 (actually, if you're correct, it would be here much sooner than that). I will see, and if not, then I will call you on your hubris.

Watching for your galloping apocalypse. Fun!

Blogger Mr. Smith July 05, 2018 12:23 PM  

This is Disney doing damage control. Look, no, Disney, nothing can be worse than The Last Jedi. Even some terrible bat crazy shit story Lucas comes up with.

However, it is safe to now say, Lucas made this stuff up as he went along. Hell, it looks like Star Wars was to be a banner title for sci-fi themed series. Like the Twilight Zone and Black Mirror is.

Blogger SirHamster July 05, 2018 12:29 PM  

tuberman wrote:Naw, I know that you want a Civil War, and now, but it's not going to happen for at least a decade, so calm down. I put you on the opposite, as it was fun.

Are you treating the Kurgan as American? That would be an error.

Blogger SciVo July 05, 2018 12:34 PM  

A manifestation of the Force at a macro level is called a Pow, and making it happen is Powing. Your Whills are primarily coordinated in that effort by the 2nd in command (the top dog being more concerned with the big picture). So your ability make things happen in the world by sheer Force of Whills is all thanks to your Whill 2 Power.

Blogger Lovekraft July 05, 2018 12:53 PM  

this youtuber has a pretty funny take on TLJ's failure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ECwhB21Pnk&t=3s

Blogger Thanks, J. July 05, 2018 12:58 PM  

And yet, I'd still prefer Lucas's batshit crappy storytelling and Micheal Jackson level weirdness to Disney SJ Wars.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook July 05, 2018 1:32 PM  

So Star Wars was a one trick pony no matter how you slice it.

Blogger Harsh July 05, 2018 1:56 PM  

The Force is controlled by Whill-power?

Blogger DeeJay July 05, 2018 2:00 PM  

Yeah, to paraphrase the President: fake news. Even discounting the Lucas-authorized Zahn books, George isn't that stupid. It's a pretty obvious bit of PR to make the franchise-destroying Disney stuff look better in comparison.

The fact that all the usual Approved Non-Problematic Geek Culture sites that'd been hyping up TLJ quickly and loudly parroted this story, with an identical 'awful' assessment, tells you all you need to know.

Blogger Silly but True July 05, 2018 2:00 PM  

"Finally a photo that truly captures the Star Wars dotcom team..."
https://twitter.com/dan_brooks/status/1014356011354763264?s=19

Blogger Garuna July 05, 2018 2:27 PM  

George Lucas is a talented filmmaker. He made THX1138, American Graffiti, and Star Wars, not to mention he contributed greatly to Indiana Jones. All great films.

With those early films, there were people around him to filter out the bad stuff, and rearrange the good stuff. But when he became too rich and too powerful nobody dared to tell him "no" anymore.

If you look at the prequels, there are plenty of great ideas in there which could have been developed into truly great films about a good man's descent into darkness. But sadly, nobody was there to be a check on Lucas and we got the mess we did.

Blogger Retrenched July 05, 2018 2:33 PM  

I think it went down something like this....

Lucas: "Damn writer's block. I'd sell my soul for a plot for a good space adventure movie"

*Satan appears*

Lucas: "Wow, Satan, what are you doing here?"

Satan: "I've heard your offer, and I'm feeling generous today. How about three movies?"

Lucas: "Sounds great!"

*shakes Satan's hand*

Satan: "You'll be on your own after number three though, just saying..."

Blogger Chris McCullough July 05, 2018 2:41 PM  

This article dropped around the time Solo started to bomb, same with the actress getting "harassed" off instagram and the "grass roots" campaign to remake The Last Jedi. If only Disney put as much effort into making their films.

Blogger Cetera July 05, 2018 2:44 PM  

Patrick Kelly wrote:"He thinks they like Star Wars because of the lightsabers, the alien costumes, the special effects,..."

Why else would I go to the theater to watch a movie on the big screen with loud esploady sounds?

When I want to indulge in character and story appreciation I'll stay at home and watch classics like "Groundhog Day", "Princess Bride", or "Joe vs. The Volcano".

Kids these days.


"I'm not arguing that with you. I'm not arguing that with you! I know he can get the job, but can he do the job? I'm not arguing that with you!"

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 05, 2018 3:24 PM  

Lucas must have been so high when he said this.

Blogger Skyler the Weird July 05, 2018 3:56 PM  

@42. Star Wars is a ripoff of the Samurai epic The Hidden Fortress.

Blogger Libertarian July 05, 2018 4:30 PM  

I believe the working title for the original Star Wars was The Journal of the Whills.

Blogger Gospace July 05, 2018 5:33 PM  

Spooky how closely that mirrors dianetics with it's engrams. Is Lucas a scientologist?

Blogger Alexandros July 06, 2018 1:11 AM  

You're out of your mind. Lucas' gay idea would have been light years better than the garbage disney shoveled out. All of those movies are terrible. At least Lucas obeys the rules he sets for his weird universe.

Blogger Thomas Smith July 06, 2018 2:19 AM  

IMO both Star Wars and Star Trek have made too many curtain calls. Time to go on to something else. I personally would like something to be done with Marc Miller's Traveller.

Blogger Paul M July 06, 2018 10:13 AM  

Gut bacteria, the final frontier.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 06, 2018 3:16 PM  

Especially Star-Dreck.

Kill it already.

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